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Speaker 1: Those who really believe in the American process, all of us.

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Speaker 3: This is Tenslom figure Row, the host of straight Shot

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Speaker 3: No Chase, so on the Black Effect Podcast Network. I

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Speaker 3: wanted to give you a quick update on the TikTok band.

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Speaker 3: It is real. I have talked about before. I think

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Speaker 3: This will be going to President Biden's desk for approval. Now,

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Speaker 3: is expected to face legal challenges. In other words, TikTok

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Speaker 3: kind of talk about it and then they just go on.

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Speaker 3: People with depression, anxiety, have suicidal thoughts. It really really

437
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Speaker 3: is ignored. They said that they were here today because

438
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Speaker 3: we know that we can and we will change this

439
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Speaker 3: and that suicide is preventable. So Judge mother who lived

440
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Speaker 3: most of her seventy six years when an untreated sickness,

441
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Speaker 3: and on the day she died, the disease of mental illness,

442
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Speaker 3: was lying to her. This is what Ashley Judge said

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Speaker 3: during a discussion moderated by the Surgeon General.

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys, remember you may remember when.

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Speaker 3: She passed away, nobody said, you know, right out, like

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Speaker 3: this is what's going on, this is what's happening with her.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of quiet. They just said, you know,

448
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Speaker 2: kept a kind of hush hush.

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Speaker 3: And so now I think it was known, but it

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Speaker 3: just wasn't you know, Broadcasting died of suicide. The way

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Speaker 3: it was rolled out, you know, obviously the family needed

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Speaker 3: time to gather themselves and decide how they want to

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Speaker 3: speak about this. And so I commend when people say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I'm not going to allow this to

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Speaker 3: I'm going to use this pain and.

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Speaker 2: Turn it into purpose. And it's clearly what she's doing.

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Speaker 3: The judge said that her mother deserved better, that she

458
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Speaker 3: also suffered from depression and has had a different outcome,

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Speaker 3: and said, who was also suffered from depression, but she

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Speaker 3: had a different outcome based upon treatment.

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Speaker 2: So let me say that again.

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Speaker 3: Ashley Judd is saying that she has depression as well,

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Speaker 3: but she has not been suicide or because of the treatment.

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Speaker 3: So what she's saying is that if people get treatment,

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Speaker 3: if people are not just ignored, if if you actually

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Speaker 3: listen to people when they're telling you I'm hurting, I'm

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Speaker 3: in a dark place, and actually get the help, that

468
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Speaker 3: it can be prevented. And she says she hopes that

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Speaker 3: her message will be a message of hope. When I

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Speaker 3: ask what people can do in crisis, Roll said, people

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Speaker 3: shouldn't worry about if they're saying the right thing. Just

472
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Speaker 3: say something and show up. And when people go through

473
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Speaker 3: dark times and tough times, it is really hard. You

474
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Speaker 3: don't know what to say. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 3: times the words are hollow on people. You know, Oh

476
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be fine. Oh the Lord gonna work it out.

477
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Speaker 3: Oh you know you always pull through. Oh, don't worry

478
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Speaker 3: about it. I don't know that those things are helpful

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00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: to hear, And sometimes it helps and sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Just continue to keep trying to show up for people.

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Speaker 3: They also suggested that people offer a moment of joy

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Speaker 3: when they do reach out, such as a memory that

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Speaker 3: sparks laughter our song. He also encouraged people to remember

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Speaker 3: that they are the light. Uh, and there's no such

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Speaker 3: thing as too much love. Let's give as much love

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Speaker 3: as we possibly can. And then in the audience they

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Speaker 3: started singing this little light of mind. So again, guys,

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Speaker 3: this is a really good policy. I think it's important

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Speaker 3: you know that these things you know, are talked about more.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you some stats on suicide. I was

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Speaker 3: looking this up and how it affects African American women.

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Speaker 3: And I'm saying that because it's not something that you

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Speaker 3: hear a lot about. And the reason why I think

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Speaker 3: you don't is because there's always this thing of oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, strong black woman, strong black woman, strong black woman,

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Speaker 3: uh and strong black man, and uh, you know, there's

497
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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of conversation about it, just assuming

498
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 3: that we're the strongest people on earth and that we

499
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Speaker 3: don't suffer from anything, and even in our culture, you know,

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Speaker 3: being taught that, you know, that's what white folks do.

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Speaker 3: You know, Black folks don't do that. We don't kill ourselves,

502
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Speaker 3: we don't have those issues. But the reality of is

503
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Speaker 3: when people are struggling, it is a disease, and you

504
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: just don't know what somebody is going through and how

505
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Speaker 3: they're trying to fight those conversations in their head. So

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Speaker 3: it's not just a matter of race, but there is

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Speaker 3: a deportion, I believe a conversation about what is not

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Speaker 3: happening with men, particularly black men and black women when

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Speaker 3: we deal with suicide. We want to give you a

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Speaker 3: couple of different stat Self reported suicide attempts for black

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Speaker 3: adolescens rose by seventy three percent from nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 3: to twenty seventeen. So if it rose, if it went up,

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Speaker 3: what is that saying? And again, Let's be clear about

514
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Speaker 3: suicide attempts versus actual suicide thinks. So suicide attempts are

515
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Speaker 3: largely ignored because the person lives. Oh yeah, they just

516
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: tried to kill themselves, but there was something that happened

517
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Speaker 3: that made an individual even attempted. They also said that

518
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Speaker 3: black boys increasingly are likely to attempt suicide than black girls,

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Speaker 3: who have more thoughts about suicide. So again, let me

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Speaker 3: say that again, black girls have more thoughts, black boys

521
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Speaker 3: are more likely to do it. Black boys are engaging

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Speaker 3: in more lethal means when attempting suicide than black girls,

523
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Speaker 3: which has increased by one hundred and twenty two percent

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Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety seven to twenty seventeen. Again, increase one

525
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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty two percent from nineteen ninety seven to

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. Black boys are twice as likely to die

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Speaker 3: by suicide than white youth.

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Speaker 2: Can I say that again? Twice as likely to die

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Speaker 2: by suicide than white youth. So when we hear this conversation,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, that's just white folks, that's just what white

531
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Speaker 2: folks do. What the facts show different? The fact show different.

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Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, eighty percent of suicide deaths in the

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Speaker 2: Black community were men. Recent research has showed observed that

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Speaker 2: Caribbean black men in the US have the highest attempt rate.

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Speaker 2: For the African American community. Firearms was the predominant method

536
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Speaker 2: used by African Americans, regardless of sex and age. Black

537
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: men don't often recognize depression or trauma as an issue. Therefore,

538
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Speaker 2: they don't associate it as a mental health issue. They

539
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Speaker 2: really don't because again, tough it out, work it out,

540
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: strong black men, strong black women, don't have to worry

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Speaker 2: about it, just deal with it. Those are the things

542
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: that we hear when we talk about suicide. So again,

543
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Speaker 2: these are the signs to watch from Black men who

544
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Speaker 2: may be possibly suffering with suicidal thoughts. It says, don't

545
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Speaker 2: focus necessarily on typical routine such as work, social media hobbies.

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Speaker 2: Most Black men are high functioning and will continue to

547
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Speaker 2: do their normal activities, but suffer in silence.

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Speaker 3: I would say this applies to Black women as well.

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Speaker 3: Increasing substance abuse from social to at home and isolating

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Speaker 3: when doing so, which means that instead of just going

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00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 3: out to have a drink, now they're drinking at home.

552
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: They're isolating themselves irritable over the smaller things, wanting to

553
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: talk less at home or isolate from friends, especially on

554
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: the weekend, discussing death and the quality of life issues,

555
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 3: putting self in risky situations such as starting arguments that

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00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 3: could lead to confrontation, activities that can lead to police involvement,

557
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 3: inability to adapt to change, and severe PTSD symptoms. Now again,

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00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: black men and boys suffer from high race of PTSD, depression, anxiety.

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Speaker 3: Some of these risk factors are racism, police brutality, childhood trauma,

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Speaker 3: survivor's guilt, lack of understanding of healthy versus healthy coping mechanisms.

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Speaker 3: These are real things, guys, that we need to pay

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Speaker 3: attention to. So I just thought these statistics were very alarming.

563
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Speaker 3: Also have some on you know, black women and their

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Speaker 3: suicide rates and how that was alarming. Just so that

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Speaker 3: you know that you know, we made the Stallion was

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Speaker 3: talking about that, you know, in her in her song,

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Speaker 3: that that's not just something that we should just look

568
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: at as just a song. That is literally telling you

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Speaker 3: that it is a problem, and that women have this

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Speaker 3: problem as well, and strong black women, as they say,

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Speaker 3: have this problem as well. And I think it is

572
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 3: very very much ignored and just taken as you know,

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Speaker 3: just suffer, just suffer through it. I did a post

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Speaker 3: last week that said that black women age eighteen and

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Speaker 3: sixty five have the highest suicide risk among women. Now, again,

576
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Speaker 3: risk versus those who actually do it are two different things.

577
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Speaker 3: But I do think it is important that age ten

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Speaker 3: to thirty four as a fourth leading cause of death

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Speaker 3: for individuals age thirty four to forty thirty five to

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Speaker 3: forty fouricide, suicide attempts, non fatal self directed injury, and

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Speaker 3: self inflicting injuries represent a major rispector for completed suicide.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, more than one point two million over

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Speaker 3: the age of eighteen reported and attempt So again there's

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Speaker 3: a big differ friends attempt. There's also disparity when you

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Speaker 3: look at suicide self inflicted injury with female So again,

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Speaker 3: this study that I'm talking about Boston University talks about

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Speaker 3: black women age eighteen to twenty five and how it

588
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with their social economic status.

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Speaker 3: They said they are the highest income strattle with twenty

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Speaker 3: percent increase in the odds of suicide and self inflicted

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Speaker 3: injury compared to white women. So again, this is not

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Speaker 3: just a white folks problem. We look at who has

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Speaker 3: probably the most stress according to the blood pressure status,

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Speaker 3: according to the heart disease. That look like it's black folks.

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00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: And we can't forget that it's not just black men.

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00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: It is also black women as well, who carry a

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Speaker 3: lot on us. And so they've gotten this information. They

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Speaker 3: said that this information has been collected, that this also

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00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: has to do with women who are dealing with domestic

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Speaker 3: violence issues. This we're dealing with health issues people that

601
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Speaker 3: are experiencing addressing racial discrimination and sexual bias. Because remember,

602
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Speaker 3: black women have to deal with being a woman in

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Speaker 3: America and also being a black woman, both of those things.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with black men.

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Speaker 3: Got deal being black man and got deal being black

606
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Speaker 3: in America, both of those things. But sexism is alive,

607
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: and well we can't keep acting like that it's not.

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00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: So those things provide put pressure on it as well.

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Speaker 3: So I just wanted to direct your attention to that

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Speaker 3: so that you know that that song Cobra than making

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Speaker 3: the Stallion did is a real thing. It's not just

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Speaker 3: something you know that is made up. She has talked

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Speaker 3: about being depressed, she has talked about suicide. So again,

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Speaker 3: if this is not true, and if the allegations are

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Speaker 3: not true. Let's keep that in mind. I hope she

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Speaker 3: gets off social media to find some peace, to find

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Speaker 3: some peace of mind, because again, social media will really

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Speaker 3: really attack you.

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Speaker 2: And I think she said that she did that for

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Speaker 2: a while.

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Speaker 3: I know when she came in to the Breakfast Club

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Speaker 3: early this year, maybe it was last year, and she said,

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Speaker 3: you know, I just got all social media. And I

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Speaker 3: do agree with that as well. Sometimes you just need

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