WEBVTT - Life & Content on the Korn Ferry Tour with James Nicholas 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.320 And when I find my ball. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.920 In a fried egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida Egg 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.840 Friday fridagg Bride egg. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.640 Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the hump. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.560 Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Golf Podcast. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:45.960 I am your host, Andy Johnson. Today I am excited 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.520 to release an interview. We've had this in the camp 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:50.440 for a while, we just haven't had a spot to 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:54.440 put it. It was a great interview. Really enjoyed chatting 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.640 with James Nicholas, a up and coming player who won 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.800 on the Corn Ferry Tour earlier this year and is 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.000 if he continues to play good golf, likely to earn 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:10.720 his PGA Tour card for twenty twenty six. James is 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:16.160 also a pretty big content creator. He's very popular on 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:20.520 Instagram and TikTok. He really does an amazing job of 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:24.440 kind of documenting life as a professional golfer and the 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.119 pursuit of a PGA Tour card. One of the things 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:33.240 I really respect about James is that he kind of 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.560 talks about the highs and the lows. You don't just 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.959 hear from him when he's had a good round, you 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.640 hear from him all the time. He is a very 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:48.400 very talented videographer. I remember seeing a lot of his 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.760 work that he would do when he was in college 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.920 at Yale, and I would think, Oh, that's somebody that 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.960 I would want to hire to make videos. So it 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.440 was really great to have Jame on. I'm really happy 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.840 that he's playing some really good golf this year and 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.480 hope that continues for the rest of the year. So 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.440 I hope you guys enjoy this. It was really fun 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.080 to chat with James. And as a reminder, we recorded 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.160 this I think about five weeks ago, so it's I 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.480 don't think there's any dated information in it, to be 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.480 completely honest. 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You know, you had 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.480 kind of a collapse at the Cognizant in Palm Beach, 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.640 and he talked about like not being able to feel 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.760 the club all of a sudden out of nowhere. I'm 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.599 curious for you. You won a couple of weeks ago 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.479 on the corn Ferry Tour. What were the nerves like 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:45.960 for you coming down the stretch? 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.279 Yeah, I don't think I had the similar feelings. Actually 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.159 I could feel the club, I could feel my hands, 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.960 but it was more so like just like out of 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.600 body experience for me. I don't know. I just felt 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.120 like my mind was ump and all over the place. 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.760 I needed to stay really present and do a lot 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.400 of work to stay present. I will say on that 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.279 final putt, I did feel something in my body that 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:10.719 I never felt before. I don't know if it was 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.680 like not feeling my hands or what it was, but 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.360 it just felt weird, right, like the anxiety not the anxiety, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.960 but the excitement of Okay, hey like this puts to 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.680 win and if I win, what's what's gonna happen? And 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.920 then once like that putt went in, then I just 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:26.920 lost all feeling and I was like, I don't even 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:27.960 know what's going on anymore. 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.920 I you talked about the present, stay in the present. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.520 I do think what's interesting you came to the seventy 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.560 second hole. I believe you were tied. You made the 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.240 eagle to go to win by two. Yeah, a great 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.440 way to close out a tournament eagle. But the you know, 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.760 for you, is it harder to stay in the present 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.120 if you have a lead like those guys had where 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.520 Bridgeman's I think they both were actually up three three 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.719 shots coming down the ste Do you think it's harder 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.120 to stay in the present when you've when you've carved 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:09.400 out a big lead and you know, if I don't 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.000 screw this up, I'm going to win. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.560 No, it's a great question. Most people don't really realize that. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.560 It's like when you have a four or five six 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.520 shot lead. For me, at least this is my experience. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.160 I go into this fear of failure mindset where I 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.120 have nothing to gain and everything to lose because people 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.400 are expecting me to win versus if I'm one shot back, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.200 two shots back or all you know tied. Me and 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.159 my mental coach work on work on this, doctor Joe parent. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.760 You know, it's like this mindset that I go into 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.480 is like watch this, like look what I can do. 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.760 You know, like I'm gonna come for you. And I 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.400 kind of had this mindset and hockey and football growing 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.400 up of you know, if we're one goal down with 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:49.640 a minute to play, it's like, put me on the 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.560 ice and give me the puck or give me the ball. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:54.840 You know, I want that situation. Versus if you've got 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.120 a three goal lead, you kind of get a little 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.200 bit lazy, little Laci days a goal and you maybe 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.159 let a little say some something slip because that focus laps. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.440 So when you do have that three shot lead, you know, 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.880 I didn't have that, but I have had it in 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.560 the past, and I've let it slip a little bit 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.000 because I get way less thorough than I would be 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.400 if I was one shot back, two shots back. And 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.920 that's sort of the mantra for the week for me 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:23.239 every week going forward, is let's be thorough in every situation, 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.400 no matter what. And because of that, I don't look 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.400 at leaderboards anymore. Even if I have a ten shot 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.440 lead a ten shot deficit, I don't want to know. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.559 I just pretend that I'm two back all the time. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:38.040 Do you active actively, like when you try not to 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:42.240 look at leader boards? I mean they're big and sometimes 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.360 they are almost unavoidable. Do you just like look away 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:48.160 at well? How do you avoid doing that? And if 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.920 you catch it, if you catch it out of the 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.360 corner of your eye, how do you process that? 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.120 So yeah, again with my mental coach, I think these 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.880 are all like mental parts of the game where I 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.520 work on and during practice rounds, I figure out where 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.280 they are and I know where they are, so when 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:04.600 I get to home, I'm like, Okay, I'm not looking 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.360 in that direction. But there are times when I just like, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.000 you know, we'll look at somebody's put and I'll see 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:10.560 in the background and be like, oh, James, like let's 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.040 tee three whatever whatever it might be, And I'm not 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.200 going to pretend I didn't see it. At that point. 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.760 It's like, Okay, let's digest the information. How does that 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.600 make me feel? How do I want to feel and 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.840 move on, so I'm sixteen t in the final round 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.720 and Bogata. I actually looked at the leader board on 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.960 purpose because I had such an urge to look, and 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.000 I realized, you know, if I had this urge to 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.840 look and I'm hindering that urge, then I'm just like 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.679 increasing anxiety. So if I look and I see that 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.440 I'm four shots up or two shots back, whatever, it is, like, 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.720 hopefully that will express some of that which it did. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.120 I saw that I was one back with three to play, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.760 and then I was like, okay, reset, I need to 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.040 make a birdy to get to and to get into 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.920 a playoff, two birdies to win. And in that moment 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.400 it worked for me. But on Thursday Friday, it does 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:03.120 not matter where you are, Like, you know, whether you're 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:06.880 four back or ten back or two it's so much 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.560 golf we played. And I think that I got so 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.040 anxious early in the weeks because I was like, oh 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:14.080 at a one shot lead after Thursday, like, does not matter. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:16.679 If you don't go Bertie twenty more holes, you're not 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:17.160 gonna win. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.760 So that's why, you know, I always say this on 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.800 our other pun shotcuts start. You know, we do a 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.439 Friday recording, and it's like, you know, you want to 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.520 talk about results. It's like nobody talks about basketball game 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.360 at the end of the first quarter, right yeah, and 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.000 golf because I think there's that day break, you know, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.760 we we don't think about it like other sports. You're 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.079 you're a great athlete. You are a great, great athlete. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.160 You know, I don't want to diminish what you're doing now, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.640 Like professional golf at a high level, you are a 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.720 great athlete, but you had a you know, you played 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:57.880 hockey at extremely high level football in college. The the 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:02.520 idea of golf, the four rounds are effectively quarters, but 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:07.040 nobody talks about them in that context. And I think 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.280 what the difference in it versus every sport is is 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:15.520 the marathon of of the breaks, you know, where it's 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.000 one quarter. You know, imagine a basketball game where you 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.600 took a break between a day break between each quarter, 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.040 or a hockey game where between periods we just said, hey, 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.760 everybody goes sleep, we'll reconvene tomorrow. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.400 I mean, if the only way you would be similar 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.160 is if you're playing a one B one match, right 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.440 and you played day one, then a reset, day two, 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.000 day three. But that's not the case when you play, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.120 you know, golf, it's okay, the implications of Thursday, the 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.920 results of Thursday, I have implications for Friday, implications for 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:49.880 Saturday and Sunday. So like they all kind of connect 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.560 and you've got to build versus if you lose game one, 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.120 game two, game you can still win. Even if you 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.160 lost by you know, one hundred points on game one, 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.079 two and three, you win, the next four you win. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.640 So for me, it's like, okay, how do we just 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:06.920 like calm down, reset, make decisions that not won't throw 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.600 us out of the tournament, right because you're not thinking 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.679 about the negatives. But it's like, okay, how can we 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.920 be so present in this moment knowing that we have 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.280 seventy holes left, you know, we're talking about the second 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.200 hole of the tournament, seventy holes left to make great 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.200 decisions to make up for maybe a small mistake here there. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.120 So I mean, that's one of the reasons why I 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.920 love golf. It's a mental battle for four days versus just, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:29.760 you know, two hours. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:35.600 In my experience, I always enjoyed the seventy two holes 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.240 where I struggled, And I know you played like the 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.679 minor league tour, which are these just straight sprints. I 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:46.080 always struggled with the idea of like this is one round, 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.560 and I think it might be like I have ADHD. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:53.240 I'm a procrastinator. The idea of having seventy two holes 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.560 was like always soothing to me, where I could be like, oh, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.760 you know, if I make a bogie, it's not a 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.839 big deal. I can just keep, you know, like I've 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.760 got millions of holes left to you know, effectively procrastinate. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.120 I can procrastinate away a slow start, but in a 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:15.760 eighteen hole sprint or qualifier, this is you know, I 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.120 have to I have to be pedal of the metal 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:24.600 right from the gate. How how do you approach you know, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.920 I guess like you probably aren't going to have many 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.280 of these outside of like the US Open qualifying. How 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.800 do you approach the kind of sprint tournaments versus these 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.240 these long seventy two hole tournaments. 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:40.120 I actually prefer them, and I need to get into 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:44.360 a mindset, like like take the mindset from those one 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.640 dayers to the seventy two hole events. Because I play 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.559 really well in my backs against the wall and when 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.880 I have, you know, like not nothing to lose, but 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:54.120 when I have to do it right. There's eighteen aal 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.120 event and it's a Monday qualifier. My first ever Monday 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.760 shot eleven under broke a course record by four and 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.880 one won the qualifier by five, and I was like, like, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.720 I wonder why, like what did I learn from that? 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.679 And it was because every single shot I had like 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.840 made to be so important, like this is the shot. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.840 I need to hit this shot well versus seventy two holes, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:15.920 I kind of get a little lazy and I'm like, oh, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.520 I'm just gonna punch this out and I'll punch it 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.760 out through through the fairway into a bunker and I'm 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.320 not like laser focused on it. So the mindset for 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.600 me actually on seven two hole days is how can 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.360 we be as thorough on each shot as we can 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.280 as if it were an eighteen whole event. So I'm 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.440 actually the opposite, right, Like I think the mindset of 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.079 having like oh if I'm if I make a bogie here, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.880 like I'll get it back is what gets me in 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.120 trouble because I almost like lose focus. I'm like, ah, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.360 that's okay to make these silly mistakes because it only 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.840 matters on Sunday. But if you do that too often, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.200 you don't make it to Sunday, So it's finding like 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:48.920 the happy medium. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.880 I guess being two, that must be why you know. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.440 And I'm just curious if this is this was true 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.719 your your college coach college she and told me your 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.720 backup plan was that you're going to be a doctor. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.520 That must be the difference between a doctor and a 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.640 podcaster is you're you're on top of things from right 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.480 from the jump versus me, who's always tried to put 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:10.040 things off. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.560 I'm trying to trying to, that's for sure. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:18.000 Yeah, you know one thing you mentioned about about the fear, 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.680 You know that that creeps in when you have a 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:27.400 bigger lead. It's embarra like the embarrassment anxiety. You know 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.400 what's interesting. I never really pick up magazines. This is 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.000 the second time I've referenced this, but I was reading 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.120 an article I can't remember the mental coach's name in 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:40.160 uh the recent golf digest, I believe, and they talked 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.440 about that's the same fee, the same kind of mental 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.520 block that overcomes you when you that most people feel 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:51.520 on short putts because there's an expect you're afraid of 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.120 being embarrassed that you missed a short putt because of 0:14:55.120 --> 0:15:01.440 the same anxiety. So for you the the same. It's 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.080 just to be thorough and go through the whole routine. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.040 Right, yeah, No, it's exactly if I have an eight footer, right, 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.760 it's okay, I'm expecting to make this. I know it's 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.640 fifty percent on tour whatever. But it's if I'm an 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.240 eight footer for Birdie, I'm like, oh wow, like this 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.000 is a great opportunity. If I miss it, I have failed. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.560 Not Oh if I make it, I have succeeded. And 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.080 I talk about the fifty to fifty put because it 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.640 is fifty to fifty. They should be waited equally. Even 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.080 though you're sitting there and being like, if I miss this, 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.640 I'm a failure. You know, if you rewind there, pull 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.920 that back to fifteen, eighteen, twenty feet now, it's like, oh, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.480 if I miss it, I'm supposed to miss it. It's 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.320 not that big a deal. If it goes in, awesome, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:42.960 like let's go. And I tend to make those more 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.760 often than not because you let go of that anxiety, 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.200 let go of that expectation, and then if you even 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.360 get creeper, you know, if you creep closer to the 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.080 whole five feet four feet now it's like I have 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:58.280 to make it otherwise you know, I'm really screwed, or 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:01.000 like I've lost a full stroke, right, and as you 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.440 close to the hole, that's when people start getting you know, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.480 we'll not use the word, but you know mental blocks 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.360 with putting. And I've done a good job at like 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.760 be like, whatever happens happens. That's the last thing I 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.920 say when I'm over a putt. I'm gonna make my read. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.240 I'm gonna make my stroke and then whatever happens. You know, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.160 if I miss it, it's the green's fault, not mine, 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.160 you know, or knowing if I push it a pull 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.360 it and then I gotta go to the rain, go 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.440 to the putting green. In practice, it's. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:29.480 An interesting way you described it with the percentages, right, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.120 and where my head immediately went when you did that 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:36.560 is weather right, And if you're if you're five feet away, 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.600 and I don't know what the exact percentage is, but 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.160 let's just call it seventy thirty or seventy five, twenty five, 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:44.800 whatever it is from five feet and this is probably 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.000 the zone where people are like, oh, I missed a 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.200 shorty I should have shot one lower than I did, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.960 but I didn't make that putt on this hole. But 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.200 if you think about it in terms of weather, if 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.120 it said twenty five percent chance rain and rain, you 0:16:59.160 --> 0:16:59.880 wouldn't be like. 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.720 So no, not all. It's interesting you say that. I 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.439 think it's like it's in our control. We feel like 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.879 the putting, whether it's not really so it just like whatever. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:14.760 But when I think about yeah, and when I think 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.000 about putting, like you said it there, you said should 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.399 have like I should have been one under. But what 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.399 I work on with my mental coach is I could 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.280 have been one under or one better. So if I 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.720 could have shot eight under today, it's phrasing a positive way. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.680 If I say I should have shot eight under, it's oh, 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.120 I failed to do something that I should have done. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:36.240 That's a failure. So it's like shifting all of these 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.520 little words, these little phrases into a positive way. That 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.280 way you trick your brain to be like, oh, this 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.640 is like even though it might have been a failure, 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.960 it actually was positive, Like, oh, I really could have 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.040 shot nine under today. You know, got to go clean 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.400 a couple of things up, and I'm gonna be there 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.040 versus you know, I should have shot nine under today, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.720 Like I can't believe I hit that shot. Like that 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:57.919 was bad. This was bad. And that slight little switch 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:02.760 is what's like the difference between people who build their 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.720 mental strength on the golf course and actually use it 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:07.960 as like a detchment of the game. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:11.119 I mean, this is this isn't just golf too, this 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:17.080 is absolutely life everything I I often I, you know, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.520 one of my you know, I get to go travel 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.199 and do amazing things like from the casual onlooker, my 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.840 life's amazing. But travel is hard for me because I'm 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.400 away from my family a lot, and you know, there's 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.400 anxiety about missing you know, what's going on at home 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.199 and you know, having my wife have to pick up 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:38.880 the load a lot for what I what I'm gone 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.719 And I often say I, I, you know, I have 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.080 to go do this. And like what's helped me recently 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.080 is the shift of saying, like, you know, I get 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.159 to go do this and like that just that slight 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:57.280 switch in in terms of changing my mental approach. I 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.960 saw it this weekend. I was playing a golf tournament 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.479 and you know, I hold I hold out in the 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.080 final round of this tournament for eagle, you know, from 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.040 one hundred and fifteen yards. But I found myself at 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.480 one point being like, man, I miss missed the short putt. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.720 I should have shot you know this. But then but 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.000 it's like we mask. It's like, okay, like I hooped 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:22.880 one from one hundreds ten yards, like I missed a shorty, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.280 but like I made that shot. And it's it's like 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:32.040 golfers wash away the positives so often, and I think it's, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:36.240 as you said, you're not building your mental approach what 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.439 you're doing when you're talking to yourself like I should 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.920 have shot this because I missed the shorty. It's opposed 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.600 to to being like I, you know I did this. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.080 This was this was amazing what I did? You know? 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.159 It's so funny. My wife actually, in one of my 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.240 rounds last year, I was complaining about a bad balance. 0:19:56.240 --> 0:19:58.040 I was like, gosh, I can't believe it like bounced 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.760 like this or whatever. And she goes James, like, do 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.280 you realize the whole before you hit it in the 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:03.720 dead center of the woods and a bounced down the 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:05.159 middle of the fairway and I was like, yeah, but like, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.640 you know, it's supposed to happen. And she's like, why 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.440 don't you ever talk about like the good bounces and 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.000 like the good breaks and like the good luck that 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.720 you get. And I'm like, yeah, it's true, Like I 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:15.320 did have a bunch of good breaks, but I'm just 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:16.960 focusing on one bad one because you know, if that 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.119 one bounce in the fairway, it's we always go to 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.400 the negative. We always go to the bad. And that's 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.560 something that I'm trying to, you know, obviously, keep working on. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.399 Yeah, I think that's like a common refrain from like 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.040 a pro golfers. It's like you anybody that plays golf, 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.520 it's like you always I I had a similar thing 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.560 happened with my wife, you know, who doesn't know anything 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.159 about golf. She's like, why why do you keep saying 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.159 like I should have this could have happened when I 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.680 was talking about around She's like, and it's like it's 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:52.879 refreshing to get that kind of like outside perspective sometimes. 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:53.840 Definitely. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:21:00.000 So you played a wide array of sports growing up 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:03.359