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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tillman, and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 2: Act podcast with me, as always my trusty co host,

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Speaker 2: Roman east Side Golf Harper.

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Speaker 1: Swinging the sticks, swinging the stick, swinging six.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, we're here Media Row, San Francisco super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about our next guest.

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Speaker 2: He was in the division when we went to Carolina,

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Speaker 2: played him a few times, one of Atlanta's most decorated quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Now he's mister President. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to

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Speaker 2: the pod. Matt Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm okay, My bad, thank you. I'm all right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's good.

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Speaker 2: Whatever that works, Okay, Ryan, we don't. I'm sorry, Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the pot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I feel like it rolls off the tongue, like most

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Speaker 3: people just call me Matt Ryan. Yeah, it's like it's

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Speaker 3: like one word, you know what I mean. That's actually

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Speaker 3: a great point. That's how we always refer to you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I got to play you from the moment

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Speaker 3: you got into the NFL.

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Speaker 1: A lot. Yes, And so the people want to know,

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Speaker 1: do we still have a rivaly. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I can answer that. I never disliked Matt Ryan. I

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Speaker 1: didn't either. Matt Ryan was on a team that well,

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Speaker 1: we played each other a lot more and it had

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Speaker 1: a lot more emotional battles. I had a lot of

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Speaker 1: penalties and raw things versus. So I understand it all.

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Speaker 1: How should you want though, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of rivalries like yeah, and it's amazing, like the

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Speaker 1: city of New Orleans didn't like the city of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta as a city didn't get it New Orleans, and

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Speaker 1: so it was it just kind of built upon all

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Speaker 1: of those things. Like I was always a big fan

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Speaker 1: of yours and everything that you were able to accomplish

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Speaker 1: and do. It was other players on your team that

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Speaker 1: I really had disdained for, and I think it built

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Speaker 1: up for all of that, and it just kind of

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Speaker 1: fed into more. And so whoever won that game, depending

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Speaker 1: on when it was that year, always meant a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I never had I never had a run in

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Speaker 3: with you, but I was never I was never in

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Speaker 3: the secondary talking trash.

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Speaker 1: I say, you know, stay in my spot.

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Speaker 3: Some of those other guys might have been, They might

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Speaker 3: have been a little closer in contact with you and

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Speaker 3: what you're.

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Speaker 1: Trying to say, I get it, and you know that.

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Speaker 1: So that's the way it should be.

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Speaker 3: That's the way it should be, and that you know, honestly,

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Speaker 3: that's what that that's what makes it when you stay

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Speaker 3: in a place for a long time and you play

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Speaker 3: against players that are in that other place for a

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Speaker 3: long that's what makes it so fun. You said at

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Speaker 3: Green Bay, Chicago, right, like you got you got certain

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Speaker 3: relationships that you know, you've gone against somebody for so long,

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Speaker 3: you've got this mutual respect because you know what they're about.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're tough, you know they're physical, you know

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Speaker 3: they play hard, you know they do things the right way.

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Speaker 1: But you want to beat them, you know.

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Speaker 3: And and that's I think that's the part that's that's

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Speaker 3: so much fun, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, is do you ever remember a game or one

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Speaker 1: of the bigger games whatever that were so satisfying to have,

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Speaker 1: but victory versus the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. I think it was maybe two thousand

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Speaker 3: and ten. So you guys won the Super Bowl in nine.

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Speaker 3: We went down there in twenty ten, we played we

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Speaker 1: It was early in the season, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Like week three, Week three or week four, and we

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Speaker 3: went into overtime and we ended up winning that game

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Speaker 1: And I was a young player. I was like a

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Speaker 3: Drew Brees On the other side, you guys in the defense,

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Speaker 3: coming off a Super Bowl championship, we had a good

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Speaker 3: that we got to go beat, and we did it.

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Speaker 3: We won down there, and I remember that that springboarded us.

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Speaker 3: Uh in that season. We ended up being I think

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Speaker 3: in twenty ten we were the one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: But that was a win for us. That was like

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Speaker 3: a milestone win.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, if you're gonna be the best, you got

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Speaker 3: to go beat the best in the NFC. And you

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Speaker 1: You know, I got to give you your flowers. I

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Speaker 1: didn't like going against you.

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Speaker 2: You had great receivers, Yes, you you had a great

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Speaker 1: You could put it anywhere on the field. I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I really didn't like going against you, just because you

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Speaker 2: you were so damn good.

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Speaker 3: I well, thank you, Uh you're nice to say that.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like going against either of you. I gotta

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Speaker 3: be honest, Like your Ballhawks in the in the secondary

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Speaker 1: But I always felt like.

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Speaker 3: My game was I was gonna get it out of

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Speaker 3: had great players around me, which was awesome. But I

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Speaker 3: actually saw Brian Urlacher walking around here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's a big difference. It is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to get used to it, though, are I'm

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Speaker 1: still not used to still us, I'm still used.

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Speaker 3: You saw it more on the day to day. I

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Speaker 3: I saw him, so I'm used to it, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: but he looks good, the hair looks good. I wasn't

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Speaker 3: playing and I'm going there, but I remember playing. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I forget what year it was season opener up there.

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Speaker 3: Lack picked me off.

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Speaker 1: Was Michael Turner. Michael Turner was back, Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: remember now. I was like, oh yeah, yah, yeah, I remember.

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Speaker 1: It was some time around that and I can't remember

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Speaker 1: we were running the keeper.

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Speaker 3: I was on there, I had a low cross, I

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Speaker 3: full extension this thing interception, And I was I hated

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Speaker 3: your guys defense. By the way, I hated your guys defense.

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Speaker 3: I hated both of your guys defense. But uh, he

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Speaker 3: was a good player man. But I did see him

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Speaker 1: The biggest thing is when I played against you, I

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Speaker 1: hated Michael Turner. Yeah, because he was so low to

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Speaker 1: the ground he busted my lip. Oh my god, he

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Speaker 1: how impressive he was. And then when we always as

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Speaker 1: a defense, wanted to because your play action game was

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Speaker 1: different picture. Yeah, by the time you showed you back

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Speaker 1: and looked at we wanted to be something different than

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Speaker 3: It was a great matchup, and you guys did a

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Speaker 3: good job of kind of changing that picture pre snap

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Speaker 3: post snapp. It was those were like that was a

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Speaker 3: grind of a week for me of like, Okay, you

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be this, We're gonna show, shrink, sell,

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Speaker 3: turn around, and then I'm hoping it's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's not, you know, and go check it down.

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Speaker 3: You guys were different, Yeah, you guys were different in

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Speaker 3: that it was like I kind of know what we're

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Speaker 1: That makes it difficult too.

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Speaker 3: You know that there's challenges in both and you guys

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Speaker 3: are so disciplined and detailed in what you do, so

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Speaker 3: you knew the shots you were going to get, but

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Speaker 3: you also knew the weaknesses you guys had and were

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Speaker 3: kind of bait you and and so it stretched in

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Speaker 3: different ways as as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to talk about this, No, you

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Speaker 1: go for it, okay, good. I want to talk about

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Speaker 1: this whirlwind that you've been in. Yeah recently. All right,

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Speaker 1: you get hired as your new role and you have

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Speaker 1: to hire a head coach and a GM. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: you're being a part of that. What was that like?

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Speaker 1: Is probably your first experience?

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Speaker 1: Most of you know I'm doing like I don't want

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Speaker 3: No, I had never hired anybody in my life like

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Speaker 3: a financial advisor agent. I've done that same, but that

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Speaker 3: I was lucky, you know, really good group, committee, search committee,

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Speaker 1: But I think you.

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Speaker 3: Lean on you know, and I would say you guys

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Speaker 1: And for me, it was the.

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Speaker 3: Ability to communicate clearly and concisely and directly. The best

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Speaker 3: bit different because you know, I think I think people

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Speaker 3: expect as players, you've got a lot of like interaction

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Speaker 1: Department, and it's like and you're all going for Are

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Speaker 1: you going for the guy that's like the best scout

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Speaker 1: or I'm going for the guy that's like the money guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right? Or am I going for the guy because

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Speaker 1: you know it's salary cap things. It's it's different ways

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Speaker 1: to be a gem. I would are your main focus? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think I think the immediate thing for all of

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Speaker 3: us as players is like, just get good players, man,

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Speaker 3: just like just the whole team should be good players.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They're like, well, yeah, it's not that easy, Like it's

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Speaker 3: a little more difficult, it's a little more complicated. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: uh than that, But there is there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: different routes you can go. You talked about it, whether

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Speaker 3: that's all right, who's who's the best talent of value,

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Speaker 3: who's the best scout? Well that's who's the best pro scout,

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Speaker 3: who's the best college evaluator? How does that marry up?

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Speaker 3: What are you looking for? Are you going to build

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Speaker 3: through the draft? Are you going to build through free agency?

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Speaker 3: You know, how does that set up look like? How

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Speaker 3: do they interact with your cap and strategy? You know,

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Speaker 3: some organizations do a great job of kind of doing

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Speaker 3: that cash over cap and you know, kicking the can

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Speaker 3: down the road a little bit, but at some point

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Speaker 3: you got to pay the bill and that becomes difficult too.

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Speaker 4: Jib There's nothing like the Super Bowl and Radio Row

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Speaker 1: All right, Jeff Terry, you are officially the most like

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Speaker 4: with Neo. We just launched Willie Wonka as well, so

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Speaker 4: taking you to the chocolate factory, the original. And then

441
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,600
Speaker 4: we've got Harry Potter coming up this summer where we'll

442
00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 4: take you to Hogwarts and going to it's like these

443
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 4: fantastical worlds. I mean, it's cool. It's a good compliment

444
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,959
Speaker 4: everything we do in sports. And you need to come

445
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 4: out for a football game.

446
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Speaker 1: I do, so tell me this all right, because I

447
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 1: gotta let's pull the curtain back a little bit. We

448
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 1: saw Jeb yesterday, Peanut and I did as we were

449
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Speaker 1: walking the streets. I was walking the mean streets of

450
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Speaker 1: San Francisco my work wife and I'm sitting there and

451
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 1: and Jeb and I walked. Well, we meet see Jeb

452
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 1: and Peanut and Jeb talked for like five straight minutes.

453
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Speaker 1: We don't have five minutes, but let's talk about the

454
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Speaker 1: next project that you guys were discussing the other day.

455
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Speaker 1: I thought it was super interesting, very candid.

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Speaker 4: Go. We're opening more venues, are we are? So what

457
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Speaker 4: we've announced is that we're opening in Atlanta here in

458
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Speaker 4: a few months. Nice, We're opening Detroit by the fall.

459
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Speaker 4: So all those are in process happening. We're opening in

460
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Speaker 4: a venue in Cleveland next year. I'm looking at every

461
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Speaker 4: major market around the US. Chicago's a priority market for US.

462
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Speaker 4: I think it's an amazing city. I think the fandom

463
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Speaker 4: there's amazing. I think it'll be fantastic. We're looking in

464
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Speaker 4: places like Nashville. We're looking in Phoenix. We're looking at

465
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Speaker 4: spots in Florida, up in the Northeast, looking in Boston,

466
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Speaker 4: d C, Philly, New York, looking in Denver, looking in Vegas,

467
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Speaker 4: looking at Raleigh, North Carolina. We're looking all over the place. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 4: And that's the thing is now, that's the effort of

469
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Speaker 4: scale is making sure we can take that product everything

470
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Speaker 4: that the fans are loving and deployed around the world.

471
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Speaker 4: And we're looking internationally. So that's this phase of the

472
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Speaker 4: business where you just try to push and keep your foot.

473
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Speaker 1: On the gas.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of international the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: How is COSM going to do in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: eight Olympics, twenty.

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Speaker 4: Twenty Olympics in La We are our venue is right there,

479
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 4: right in the heart of it all. Yeah, so we'll

480
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Speaker 4: be doing a ton of activations around it, working with

481
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Speaker 4: a lot of the various the biggest brands that are

482
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Speaker 4: coming in and around there, and so it'll be this

483
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 4: always on heartbeat for the entire for the entire tournament. Yeah,

484
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Speaker 4: you know, not too different from what we're doing next

485
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 4: week when NBA All Stars there, right, So that's right

486
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 4: across the street and into a dome. And so we've

487
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Speaker 4: got a ton of good stuff happening with the NBA

488
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: and UH and COSM has been continued to be this

489
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Speaker 4: this actually this premium destination for all the biggest events

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Speaker 4: in the world. It's been good.

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Speaker 1: And you guys, COSM just signed a partnership deal with

492
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Speaker 1: Monster Energy, could you we did express express that to us. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So you know, as we've built this business, we always

494
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Speaker 4: focus on fan experience first, and now that we've gotten

495
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Speaker 4: there and hardened the systems. We're starting to incremental partnership

496
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Speaker 4: to the to the throws, and now we just announced

497
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Speaker 4: Monster Energy as our first really category partner as our

498
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 4: exclusive energy drink provider. So now we've got the product

499
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Speaker 4: in there and cool activations really leaning into the UFC

500
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Speaker 4: and combat sports as Monsters the official there, so big knockouts,

501
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 4: end of matches, the dome turns green and Monster and

502
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Speaker 4: it's it's like really cool activations around it.

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Speaker 1: So see, I like that. I thought you were just

504
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Speaker 1: like we just got the you know, got some cans.

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Speaker 4: No, you got to lean in, you got it's got

506
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Speaker 4: to be cos it's got you got l It's the

507
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 4: same way you look at naming rights and stadiums, now

508
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 4: and all the things around these venues. It's those elements

509
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: were bringing into life here because every cosm is about

510
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: just basically a small arena or stadium.

511
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Speaker 2: I could see it Cosm Field in Chicago, Illinois.

512
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 4: Look at it.

513
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: There it goes, look at it. I love it. I

514
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Speaker 1: love it.

515
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Speaker 4: You know you were talking about lines earlier. There is

516
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 4: no more pressure stress than having back to back games

517
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Speaker 4: and the first game going in overtime. Imagine you've got

518
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Speaker 4: twelve hundred people in the venue. Yeah, there was a

519
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Speaker 4: bunch of overtime games, by the way, these playoffs when

520
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 4: it was coming down to the wire, then you got

521
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 4: twelve hundred fans outside waiting for kick. You got a

522
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 4: ten minute turn window, right, you want to see chaos

523
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 4: and come to a cosm for that man, It's like,

524
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Speaker 4: so was that at all them l which or both

525
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Speaker 4: of everywhere? When it's back to back games like that,

526
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Speaker 4: the tight turn. Now, if it's on the same same

527
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 4: broadcast partner, you're pretty good because they'll delay. But if

528
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Speaker 4: it's not, you got it. You have to scramble, like, bro,

529
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Speaker 4: we're kicking this thing.

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Speaker 1: We're kicking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going we're kicking this thing off. I got

532
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Speaker 4: one game in and outside screaming. Oh and by the way,

533
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Speaker 4: the Bears fan through the chair. Did you see that

534
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 4: that video that went viral? Yeah, afterwards, right when they

535
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 4: won and the place was going nuts, he just was

536
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 4: he went grabbed a chair.

537
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Speaker 1: So I don't think I knew that was you out

538
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Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying.

539
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Speaker 4: I know exactly what people didn't realize is that there

540
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 4: was a guy who ripped his shirt off and was

541
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Speaker 4: running around in the background too. When you look at

542
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: that video, it's like pandemonium.

543
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Speaker 2: He went nuts, just nuts out of nowhere. Just I mean, yeah,

544
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Speaker 2: he was excited. I was happy for him, but he

545
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Speaker 2: was a little just he was a little reckless.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but man, it's game forever. Like they were like,

547
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Speaker 1: they're all in due, they're all in Jeff, what has

548
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Speaker 1: become the most popular sporting event that you guys carry

549
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: at COSM?

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Speaker 4: As you know, you're looking at it, just like here

551
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: the energy here in radio row. That's not by accident.

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Speaker 3: Right.

553
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: The world's attention is on the NFL, and so look

554
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: Super Bowls, right, But all NFL programming fantastically. The NFL

555
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: has been a great partner and having those games there.

556
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Speaker 4: It's great privilege by they to be able to showcase

557
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 4: it this way and and fans come out no matter

558
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: what the game is. Fans love NFL at COSM. College

559
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 4: football has been fantastic. Combat sports soccer, we've shown tennis,

560
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: NBA big partner of ours. That content's fantastic. You know,

561
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 4: take you court side, yeah, take your seats. You can't

562
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Speaker 4: normally go a lot of great things that we're working

563
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Speaker 4: on right. Now, we've been able to expand our content portfolio.

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Speaker 4: Every major sports covered. We've covered horse racing, the Kentucky Derby,

565
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Speaker 4: We've covered US Open DOT.

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Speaker 1: I loved the Derby. The Derby is amazing. It is

567
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Speaker 1: the best minutes or minute and a half of life.

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Speaker 4: Oh by the way, people come up to cause them

569
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Speaker 4: wearing hats in the dress. We got mint julips. We

570
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 4: had a live horse out front with roses around it, right,

571
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 4: so you get get the real film. I'd be like

572
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Speaker 4: for super Bowl. Now, we've got turned the venues to

573
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Speaker 4: make it look like San Francisco. So we've got specialty

574
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Speaker 4: menus to match different spots here. We've got big golden

575
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 4: gate bridge, you know, graphics and all sorts of cool stuff.

576
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Speaker 4: So we try to bring that energy of the event

577
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Speaker 4: to the fans everywhere.

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Speaker 2: So I would love to do a combat sporting event there. Yeah,

579
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: just to see like that close boxing UFC.

580
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 4: We had a camera on the octagon, right, blood is

581
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: splattered on the lens. I mean it is you are

582
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 4: in it, and fans love, I mean they go they

583
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 4: go nuts.

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Speaker 1: I would yeah, I would.

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Speaker 4: No way you can see the monster activation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want I want COSEM in Vegas and then

587
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Speaker 1: I want to be able to gamble and do the

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Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby and like be all in because to me,

589
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Speaker 1: it's it's so exciting. I love horse raising.

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Speaker 4: That's why I love Detroit Sports Bettings Legue on Detroit. Yeah,

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00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: and so we'll be we'll be leaning too that activation

592
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 4: when we're there as well. Really fan friendly forward right

593
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Speaker 4: mobile first type type sports betting. Vegas is going to

594
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 4: be a huge market for us. We're excited about that.

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Speaker 4: And I got to talk about the Dodgers World Series. Yeah,

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00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: in l a cosm is about as good as it gets.

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00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: That is true. I would I'm gonna ma, I wasn't

598
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: a Dodgers fan going in right, but but now I'm

599
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Speaker 4: telling you great series. It was a great series, an

600
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Speaker 4: amazing series. And fans are wearing their gear and the jerseys.

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Speaker 1: It's just they love the Dodgers man, they love the Dodgers,

602
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: love the dog, they love the Dodgers. To be a

603
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Speaker 1: Dodgers fan it is, it's a good time to be

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Speaker 1: a Dodger. My last question, where do you see cosm?

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Speaker 1: And I know it's kind of redundant because I've seen

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Speaker 1: you and we've seen this. Where was it that five

607
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: years ago? And we asked, aw, you three years ago?

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Speaker 1: You guys are doing that now right now? Where do

609
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Speaker 1: you see COSM in the next five years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. Look in twenty twenty, right,

611
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 4: this thing was just an idea. Yeah, I had to

612
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: pitch this over Zoom and people are like, Jeb, you're crazy, right,

613
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 4: that deck is pretty, but there's no way that's gonna work.

614
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: Right then we got to the point where we opened

615
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 4: our venues in twenty twenty four, like, okay, you got

616
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Speaker 4: the boobirds out there saying, hey, okay, you opened our

617
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: fans gonna like it. Fans like it. Right now, you

618
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 4: see where we are right now. We've been able to

619
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 4: harden the playbook and operation and we're scaling. And that's

620
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 4: that's the effort now, is keeping our foot on the gas, competing,

621
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Speaker 4: having the will to win, and scaling this business globally.

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Speaker 4: The next five years. I'd love to have at least

623
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Speaker 4: one venue internationally, you know, ten plus venues around the

624
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: world really showcase what this business is all about. Continue

625
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: to push everything we're doing on the technology side. I

626
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 4: don't know if you guys know this you know the

627
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 4: pylon cameras on NFL Sunday, that's us as well.

628
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I didn't know that.

629
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, go line line to gain all those things. So

630
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: continue to push our tech stack on the production side

631
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 4: and scaling it and eventually I'll peel the onion back

632
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: and tell the whole story here. But as we've built

633
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: this business, there's a lot of cool things we have

634
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: working on and that's all going to come to life

635
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: in these next five years. But priority is scale and

636
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 4: then COSM. People know what the experience is now it's

637
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 4: been viral. People see it. They might not know it

638
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 4: by name yet.

639
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'll say.

640
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: Oh I work at COSM. They're like, oh, what's that

641
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: ago have you seen that viral thing where it's immersive

642
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: sports experience?

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00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, that's awesome.

644
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 4: Right. I wanted to be like, yeah, we know COSM,

645
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 4: and that's to continue to push house the name.

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00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: We're taking it down now, household name, and we're going

647
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: to be international. Specifically, I hope in a place where

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Speaker 1: the NFL plays a game.

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00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I want that.

650
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right in line what we're trying to do. Look,

651
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: all our big league partners want to be internationally and

652
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 4: that's we're a great way to bring that game if

653
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: it's not actually playing now, to bring it there every day.

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Speaker 1: I want that for you. You want me talking about

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Speaker 1: lon Don Do you have a London accent? Can you

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Speaker 1: do one? Can you do on London accent? No?

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00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 4: I can I hear that one again?

658
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, is that what that was? I just said

659
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: that was awful?

660
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: That was awful? Better?

661
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: Better? Better, let me hear you what you got? No,

662
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: moving on, jeah. We appreciate you coming on as.

663
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: Always, you guys.

664
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: You broke sure. Let's make it for baby.

665
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 4: Run it back.

666
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: Let's run it back.

667
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: Let's run it that casm, let's do okay, you know

668
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: where the super Bowl is next year?

669
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: La la, Let's do it, Adlet's do it all right,

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00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: we'll see you'll do You heard it on here first.

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00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: There it is. Thanks guys,