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Speaker 1: Man, welcome back all the Smoke, Episode nine with my brethren,

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Speaker 1: my brother, I'm kind of disappointed, man, you figured out

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Speaker 1: your sweaty hands situation. You know, it just ain't sweating

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Speaker 1: no more. I'm moisterized. I'm using a lot of baby lotions.

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Speaker 1: I told you, baby, I told you boys growing in

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Speaker 1: front of our eyes and your products, give your products

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Speaker 1: and shout out. Shot out here with the poy miss

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Speaker 1: pretty boy. Mrs look at it. I can tell it's

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Speaker 1: already making your nose a little smaller. Anyway, man, we

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Speaker 1: got a great episode. Man NBA retiree, future Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famous in eligible flashing of the game, Man, Dwyane Wade, Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming in my hand sweaty. I was

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Speaker 1: sitting over here thinking. I was like, I'm wiping myself off.

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Speaker 1: You know, I let guest slide, though I don't let

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Speaker 1: you slide. I think it's this. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: solve velvet over here. The man used to trying to

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Speaker 1: tell you, Man, tell them what network we are. Show

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Speaker 1: Time Baby imm and Ice Box did a collab and

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Speaker 1: made out perfect. You know what I'm saying, Ice Boxing image,

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Speaker 1: you know something I think? Yeah, anyway, man, tell me

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Speaker 1: what tired life is like sixteen years correct, sixteen sixteen

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Speaker 1: in the NBA and and you're done. Yeah, what is

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Speaker 1: that like? Now? It's actually fun? Was it like? For me?

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Speaker 1: It's like I want to show people with a different

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Speaker 1: way to retire, you know, I mean everyone got this mind,

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Speaker 1: this man setup. When athletes retired, they're gonna be walking funny.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna be broke, they're gonna be divorced,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be so far and so on. So for me, man,

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Speaker 1: it's always just about inspiring the next generation of Listen,

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Speaker 1: this is the way you walk away from the game.

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Speaker 1: This is where you retire. So I'm having fun. Man.

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Speaker 1: I saw you in the gym a handful of months

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Speaker 1: ago and he was working out hard to like, any

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Speaker 1: of you have any of that basketball? Do you still

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Speaker 1: want to play? Left in you? I love a game.

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Speaker 1: I mean you guys know that that goes they love

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Speaker 1: goes nowhere. But my passion for started to leave. You

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Speaker 1: know what, once it was, once it became more of

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Speaker 1: at the point now where I'm really for the first time,

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Speaker 1: game from a fan perspective, you know. So I'm cool

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Speaker 1: man without the ice bags, without it man, without it all. Man,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm more athletic now than I was my

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Speaker 1: last few years. So what is this some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff you're into now? Obviously you got a little one.

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Speaker 1: She just turned one, right, Yes, she just turned one, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so tell me what it's like. What do you into

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Speaker 1: besides daddy duty and what what's your daddy day looked like? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think everyone knows when you know,

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Speaker 1: when you played the sport like we play, it takes

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Speaker 1: you away from a lot of things, especially at your family,

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Speaker 1: you know, being as president as you would like to be.

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Speaker 1: But also once you get on this side, you realize

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Speaker 1: how hard it is to be as president as you

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Speaker 1: been cool. Man. I got kids and arrange over eighteen

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Speaker 1: and uh, it's my hardest job, but it's my most

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Speaker 1: I'm chilling you guys, know, Man, Yeah, you have a

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Speaker 1: long run, man, hell of a run. Tell me a

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Speaker 1: Bleach report deal. What do you what should we expect

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Speaker 1: to um to announce that we announced that we got

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Speaker 1: And Candice Parker, myself and big fellow shock Um Adam

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Speaker 1: the Heat. Um getting Jimmy Butler. Yeah, man, they're starting

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's happy. You know, Miami and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: And you can see it, you know, you see that.

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Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. They can just continue to keep going.

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Speaker 1: everybody right now, we can win, we can win anywhere.

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Speaker 1: They went into Milwaukee morning, wanted to run on, but

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Speaker 1: you know we all benefited from from that. So just

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00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,399
Speaker 1: that run like it was, it was surreal. Bro. We

427
00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,680
Speaker 1: got every team's best every night, you know what I'm saying.

428
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,919
Speaker 1: We learned a lot about ourselves. I think early on

429
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 1: we was getting We was not in eight when we

430
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 1: first got together that first year, and he was coming

431
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 1: at us, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like

432
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 1: even if they was afraid, they didn't show it. That

433
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 1: afraid turned to some courage and we had to look

434
00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: ourselves in the mirror and be like, hold on, like

435
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 1: are we built for this? You know what I'm saying,

436
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,240
Speaker 1: Not up, they built for it because they're coming at us.

437
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,560
Speaker 1: And we had to show everybody that we were that

438
00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,600
Speaker 1: we were built for your best, you know every night.

439
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 1: So to win two championships in four years together, Um,

440
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 1: the way we did it, um was you know, a

441
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 1: storybook you know for us, we would love to win

442
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 1: for but this game is too it was too good

443
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,760
Speaker 1: for that. Um, and we broke down alone the way

444
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 1: as well. That last year we was mentally physically we

445
00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: was jazz. Yeah, it was mentally man, we was the

446
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: jokes weren't funny no more in the locker room. Yeah,

447
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We want as cool as too,

448
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 1: We want as cool as as people in the public.

449
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 1: Guy thought we were to each other like it just

450
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,360
Speaker 1: was different. We was around each other for a long time.

451
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: We took a lot of scrutiny as well, and it

452
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of warned us a little bit, but you know,

453
00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 1: we did try to enjoy it along the way as well.

454
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: It's important that the time the time you away, when

455
00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: you left the heat, a lot of people thought you

456
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: the relationship with Pat Roddy was fractured. And then you

457
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: end up coming back and doing and doing the farewell tour.

458
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: Wish our relationship like now we got a great relationship.

459
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: I think that that moment, I think both of us,

460
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: neither one of us wish to this data that happened,

461
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: and um, you know, I think we dealt with it

462
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 1: and we talked, you know, as man and man face

463
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 1: to face, and Pat know how I feel about it.

464
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: I know I've been very open about how I feel

465
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: about how all that went down. But you know, I

466
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: think it ended the way they needed to. I think

467
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,239
Speaker 1: once I came back, I had to I had more

468
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 1: of appreciation for the organization, had a more appreciation for

469
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: the city, and I think vice versa, you know as well.

470
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 1: So like once again that moved, probably everyone said, oh man,

471
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,440
Speaker 1: he should have been the life for it should never happen.

472
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,959
Speaker 1: But it's the best thing for all of us that

473
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, we've seen each other in a different

474
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: like once I wasn't there anymore in both ways. UM,

475
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 1: so you know everything is kosher, man. You know, I'm

476
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: just I'm so happy that the successes keep. You know,

477
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: it's it's still going for the heat. Um. And you know,

478
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: as I get away from the game and do some

479
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 1: other things I want to do, eventually, I would love

480
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: to migrate back to being a part of the organization. Um,

481
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: as I figure out what my life is really gonna

482
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: be about and continue to get back to that city.

483
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: You know, the way that they gave to me for

484
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 1: so many years, tell me what it was like playing

485
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: with Chris and then you know him being a good

486
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,239
Speaker 1: guy he was and really to me probably the one

487
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: that sacrificed the most out of the day free and

488
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: then for him to to have his career cut short

489
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 1: and have to leave you like, yeah, bro, CB is

490
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: so talented. A lot of people understand Man like that

491
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 1: guy like he he was the piece that made it

492
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: all work and um, you know, and especially when when

493
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: Bron left. Man we've seen like it was pretty much

494
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: his team. He he definitely got. He definitely got the

495
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: check um. But you know, just to see how talented

496
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: he was, he was. You know, he was one of

497
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: those guys that started this wave of big shooting threes,

498
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, playing on the perimeter, not banging down low

499
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 1: just we had the guarden. We was guarding with golden statement.

500
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 1: We know, man, the whole package. You couldn't get out

501
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: must on him and play you wasself skilled, bro so skilled, fast, quick, athletic.

502
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: I like his braids, like I don't you know he

503
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 1: gets you on the ice on that wing and he

504
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 1: gets and then he he knew how to get files.

505
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: He was. He was so good. I think earlier on

506
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people called himself because he didn't play

507
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: inside and he was six eleven. But later on you

508
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: can see how he was a part of the game changing,

509
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like right now, he would

510
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 1: be killing right now, man, you know what I'm saying.

511
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: So like for me, you know, I was able to

512
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: walk away from the game in my whole marriage, but

513
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: the game got taken away from him, you know what

514
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. And I was talking to him recently

515
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: about it and he seems to be a calm with

516
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: but I was like, see, you know what you would

517
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 1: be doing right now though, And I think he's trying

518
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: to move his mind away from that. But he could

519
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: still be bawling right now and still be a huney

520
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: million out here for him, you know what I mean,

521
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: Because he's that kind of player. He gets the offense moving,

522
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 1: he could shoot it um and he can ice so

523
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: one on one to take you to the basket. Fin

524
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: there's dunk on you all that. Like, he just had

525
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: the whole package, man. So he was the piece that

526
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: me and Brian relied on to make it all really

527
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: work when it came to you know, the versatility of

528
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: what our team really needed and an identity of like

529
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: how we was going to play. You know, he came

530
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: back and added that three point into his game and

531
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: it changed our whole team. There's no question. What's your

532
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: best member of two thousand and ten? And why the decade? Decades?

533
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 1: Decade as a whole, Uh for from my career or

534
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: just period just a decade? What you think either one? Uh,

535
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 1: it's been a hell of a decade. Life has changed

536
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: a lot in ten years. I mean a lot um

537
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: from from your mid twenties to your twenty seven to

538
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: thirty seven. You know, my life has changed dramatically, but

539
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: just the world around us. You know what I'm saying,

540
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: Like crazy, Um how far you know it's coming? Just

541
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: ten years? I'm just king years? No, I mean it

542
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: was just getting popped, you know what I'm saying. Like so,

543
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Like I remember Eddie Curry was one of the first

544
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: ones to introduce me Stagram and I was like, what

545
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: the hell is this man? You can put pictures on?

546
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would I want to put pictures out?

547
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it was crazy and

548
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: now you know you can't. You can't do nothing without

549
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: social media. Social media has become the two every everyone uses. Um,

550
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: so I think it's it's been cool. I'm thankful that

551
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,959
Speaker 1: I'm I'm thankful that I'm older in this generation. I'm

552
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: thankful that I had the experiences before this last decade, uh,

553
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, to set my foundation is I now try

554
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: to navigate in this world. But it's the change has

555
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: been amazing too. It's tough to navigating now, especially like

556
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: you said, because I kind of feel, and I spoke

557
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: on this before, like there used to be real veteran

558
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: leadership and your o GS you can lean on the

559
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: kind of you know, dodge the pit holes or stuff.

560
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: They messed up. As you know with my career and

561
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: all my way out, I kind of saw that was

562
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: almost a dying situation. Like now the o GS is

563
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: not really letting the young fellows lean them because they're

564
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: fighting for playing time and contracts and all this kind

565
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I kind of felt like the mentorship

566
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: and really like the o G s of the locker

567
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: room kind of left, you know what I mean. So

568
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: without that, this world with how many pitfalls now it's tough.

569
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: It's definitely a tough situation. Tell me what it was like.

570
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: You were one of the first and I followed you

571
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: a handful of years after. But to win custody of

572
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: your kids, because that normally doesn't happen for for athletes. Never. Yeah,

573
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: that was ever you got two people that did it. Man,

574
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: your legend, bro agend, that was. That was a tough

575
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: time for me because you know, when I decided to

576
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: go for custody, I really didn't have a lot of examples.

577
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: I ain't really have too many people I can reach

578
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: out to and say, bro, like, how was the process

579
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Or give me confidence that

580
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: I even can you know, send a chance? Um So

581
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: I think for me, man, it was it was. It

582
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: was on charter of warders. But you know, it was

583
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: all about just being in my kids lives. And unfortunately

584
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: that was the way I had to do it, you know,

585
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: because of my how our relationship went. But um, once

586
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: I got that opportunity to be there, you know more,

587
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: I think it was beneficial for both of us. I

588
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: needed them and they needed me, you know what I'm saying.

589
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: And and just even now you know I got Zers.

590
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's a basketball player and he's trying to

591
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: navigate through this world of you know, of having his

592
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: father's last name. That's it, you know what I mean.

593
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: If I had his father and looking like me a

594
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: little bit, and people having expectations of how he should be,

595
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: what he should be, you know what I mean, And

596
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: like that's been tough, you know, as a parents and

597
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: trying to have him to navigate, you know what I mean.

598
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: I think I can give him all the game in

599
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: the world, but Awesomeately, I've never lived that way that

600
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: he's living. I never I didn't grow up as with

601
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: a famous dad and a famous stepmother and and it

602
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: just means and it means to We're talked about this

603
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: at All Star in l A. When I introduced you

604
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: to my son and you introduced you and they both

605
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 1: was like real, real shot. He was like, bro, they

606
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: didn't come up like we're coming up. We're trying to

607
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: make him tough. But now look at your son and switched.

608
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: Now like he a totally different player than when when

609
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: the All Star Games in l A. He totally different. Now, yeah,

610
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: he's totally different. And I mean the biggest thing is

611
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: we talked about this, and I think you hear brown

612
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: even said that what Browne is you want him to

613
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: have fun game would be a great team for me.

614
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: It's all about I understand what basketball did you know

615
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: from for our family, But you know, we learned so

616
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: much through life through the game of basketball and for me.

617
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: As you're playing this game, you know, if you have

618
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: to work at this, if you have you know, you know,

619
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: if you have the foresight to understand what sacrifice looks

620
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: like and all these different things, You're gonna be better

621
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: in life for it. These are life lessons at the

622
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: game of basketball is teaching you. And I put them

623
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: in a tough situation this year where I brought him

624
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: out here to l A to play a Sierra Canon.

625
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, he comes from Miami where he's on the

626
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: team where he can score right right, he's on the

627
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: team now where he may touch the ball officially five

628
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: six times to score, you know. And you're in the

629
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: era now where with socially, every kid got all the highlights,

630
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: all the moves, and everyone has the ball in the hand.

631
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to tell him, if you want to

632
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: be good in this game, you gotta learn how to

633
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: play without the ball in your hand. You gotta learn

634
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: how to sacrifice. You gotta learn how. And it's tough,

635
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: and it senior season. But what I'm trying to do mentally,

636
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: is build something to him, um as a basketball player,

637
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: but also in life. There's understanding what life is about.

638
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: It's not just you know about I got it, I

639
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: got it is me, me, me, so many other components

640
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: to making life successful. And so I'm just trying to

641
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: teach him as many lessons I can before he goes

642
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: off next year and go to college. And it ain't

643
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: on me, you know. So yeah, man, I want to

644
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: backtrack a little bit. What was it like to go

645
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: from I don't know how much you got to see

646
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: your kids before you got CUSSID to just having them

647
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: all the time, Because I went through it, you know,

648
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean while I went through where I was, you know,

649
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: seeing them on weekends or every other Wednesday there with

650
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: me seven days a week. That's a huge transition transition

651
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: and then trying to be playing an NBA right talk

652
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it was, it was. It was definitely

653
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: a tough transition for you know, it's tough in the

654
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: weekend paring. First. First of all, when you get your

655
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: kids on the weekend, they want to have fun. You

656
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: gotta be the fun parent, but you're also trying to

657
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: parent them. You know what I'm saying, that's one of

658
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: the toughest things to do. So but is it easy

659
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: or job when it comes to the responsibilities when you

660
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: get them for a time? Is this everything started? I

661
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: started thinking about all the responsibilities that I now had,

662
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying for them, And it was

663
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: a simple stuff like, you know, they weren't here for

664
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: the weekend and now they stand. So now I'm like, okay, okay,

665
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: what kind of bears they need? What what kind of

666
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: cheese they need? What kind of thing? Like, I gotta

667
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: everything closed it is. They had all the stuff I

668
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: need to teach them now, and so it was at

669
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: first it was like, you know, I want custom and

670
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: I was just you know, I had an emotional moment,

671
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: and then it snapped back into me that I had

672
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: so much to teach them, and I had so much

673
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: responsibility coming my way, and I had to put so

674
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: many people around them. You know that I need to

675
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: find people to trust to put around my kids because

676
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: of my job and my career takes me away from

677
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: being around So man, it's definitely tough. It's not easy

678
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: at all being a single parent, and neither way it's

679
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: not an easy thing. But ultimately, you know you're gonna

680
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: do what's best for for your kids. And I got

681
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: told my boys. We learned on the fly, we learned together.

682
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: I've learned how to parent you guys by how you

683
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: guys are. I'm not gonna parent you the same. You

684
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: know you're not the same, right, Um. They don't expect that.

685
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: And I try to parent each of my kids differently. UM.

686
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: I support them differently. Um. And so far as working,

687
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it stays the same as the love.

688
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: The love is there, That's what I'm saying that, and

689
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: that's what it's most important. Man. I your love. You know,

690
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: we we we've seen and recently the social media stuff

691
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: and you know how supportive you are with your youngest

692
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: son and and him feeling comfortable enough to come out,

693
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: and you guys being so loving and supporting. And it

694
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: gives me chills right now even talking about it, because

695
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: the negative backlast you guys like really bothered me. Like

696
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm on social media argument people like, man, what the

697
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: funk are you talking about? Right now? You know what

698
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean? Like that unconditional love, but but touch on

699
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: what that is like being a professional Hall of Fame

700
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: player playing in a masculine sport, and then your son

701
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: being a homosexual, and and then being comfortable enough to

702
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: have that kind of communication with at such a young age,

703
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: which I think it's important. Yeah, it's first of all,

704
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I you're don't talk about strength and courage. You have

705
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: way more than I have, you know, I mean you

706
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: can learn something from your kids, right, Um, you know,

707
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: but in our household, man, that's all we talk about.

708
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: We talk about making sure our kids be seen by

709
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: each of us. Um, me and my wife. You know,

710
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: we talked about making sure our kids, you know, understand

711
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: that they're you know, the power in their voice, you know. Um,

712
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, we want them to to be whoever they

713
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: feel that they can be in this world. Like that's

714
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: how I go. You know, understand you can be whoever,

715
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: you can be whatever. Now, there's some things that's gonna

716
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, why are you trying to go down that process?

717
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: This is what's gonna come at. It's gonna be a

718
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: lot of negative, it's gonna be a lot of hate,

719
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: and it's not even just from my son's sexuality. It's

720
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: just about being a young black man or first foremost right,

721
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: So everything that comes with that So for us, man,

722
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't when I respond to things socially, I'm not

723
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: responding because you hurt my feelings. I'm not responding because

724
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: that I even care enough of what you're saying, because it's,

725
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: as we say in the hood, is ignorant. While responding

726
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: is because I understand my platform. I understand that I'm

727
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: speaking for a lot of people that don't have the

728
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: same voice that I had right as a father, um

729
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: or you know, I'm even speaking for my twolve year

730
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: old right now because I haven't allowed him to sit

731
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: in front of a microphone yet. But I'm speaking for,

732
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: you know, for so many others you know, you know

733
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: in the l g B, t Q plus can unity.

734
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: So for me, man, like I said, it's just it's

735
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: just my my my version of supporting. Like you know,

736
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: I had to look at myself in the mirror when

737
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: my when when my son at the time was three

738
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: years old and me and my wife's are having conversations

739
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: about you know, us noticing that you know, he wasn't

740
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: on the boy vibe as I er was on, and

741
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: I had to look at myself and her and say, whatever,

742
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: your son come home and tell you he's gay. What

743
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do, How are you going to be?

744
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: How are you going to act? It ain't about him,

745
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: he knows who he is. It's about you. Who are you?

746
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So all these people that's

747
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: out there saying those things, look at yourself. Understand that

748
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: you're the one that got the issues. You do one

749
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: got the problem. It's not the kids. It's not the

750
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: ones who decide that. You decide that, Yeah, they're born

751
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: a certain way, and you say they got to be

752
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: that way. It's not. That's not That's not life. Man.

753
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: I watched my son from day one becoming to who

754
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: she now eventually is coming to you know what I'm saying.

755
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: And for me, it's all about nothing changes with my love,

756
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: nothing changed with my responsibilities, you know what I'm saying.

757
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: So one day I gotta do now is get smarter

758
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: and educate myself more. And that's my job. And I

759
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: went through it, you know, growing up. My oldest brother's homosexual.

760
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: And but I think me being around him and understanding different,

761
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: being different is the reason why I'm so loved by everybody.

762
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: It's the reason why I'm able to sit and have

763
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: a conversation with everybody from anywhere, any race, and and

764
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: be anywhere, because I've seen somebody being different, and I

765
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: loved him just as much as I love myself, you

766
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So so I understand that. And

767
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: and like my brother, he dealt with a growing up.

768
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: We grew up in the hood, so he dealt with

769
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: a growing up. But my brother's six square, you know,

770
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, he loved a square. He square. But but

771
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: I love my brother to death. And by him being

772
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: different and being around him as a young kid, it

773
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: helped me be able to open up to everybody and

774
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: to love everybody like I do. So it was beneficial

775
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: to me, not even just more as just wills to him.

776
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: People this is They're normal. They're not even different, you

777
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's new normal. Everybody get used

778
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: to Everybody get used to it. Man, this is the

779
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: new normal. So if anybody different, we we looked at

780
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: as different, you know what I'm saying. The ones that

781
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: don't understand it, the ones that don't get it, the

782
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: ones that you know, have stuck in a box. You're different.

783
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Not the people out here living their lives, man, you

784
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, ultimately, you want your kids

785
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: to be free and living their lives and I don't care.

786
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: You know what you you know what you want to

787
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: do from a standpoint. If you want to play a sport,

788
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: then player sport. I don't. You don't have to be

789
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: like me players sport and be yourself. You know, whatever

790
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: you want to do, it's my job to support you

791
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: doing and make sure that you that you have all

792
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: the twos you need to be. You know, it's happy

793
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: as you can't be in this worldwide where you're doing it.

794
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: Why you you know, um, you know why you're going

795
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: into the person that you are that you're going to

796
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: grow into. UM. So they're not different than normal, you

797
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. The ones that don't understand it

798
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: are the ones that everybody definitely look at them. And

799
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: we just wanted to commend you on on just taking

800
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: that head on. And like you said, it's more about

801
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: your platform and being able to educate you know what

802
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, because obviously you touched on early on is

803
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: it's a tough pill to swallow, but the love and

804
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: support you showed is tremendous. First of all, foremost, like

805
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: you said, being a black child, man or woman in

806
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: this country is hard enough, you know what I mean,

807
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: and then adding that component to him. But I think

808
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: that the effort you guys showed as a family and

809
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: the unity and the love and the family was huge, man,

810
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: was huge and needed it because, like you said, there's

811
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: plenty of other people going through it having to pretend

812
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: who being someone they're not or scared to speak out

813
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: or can't speak out. And when people like you went

814
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: with your platform and your wife's platform are able to

815
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: show unity, I think that goes a long way. Man. Really,

816
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: my wife has been amazing by the way. You know,

817
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean I could say that I'm I am the

818
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: man I am from that standpoint because being around someone

819
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: who's been so cultured, you know what I mean that

820
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: that when she came in, she let me, she gave

821
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: me some different leads is to look through of life

822
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: and change my whole perspective, you know, I mean, I

823
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: grew up with the same perspective. Is a lot of

824
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: these people out here that's a lot ignorant, you know,

825
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up with all the perspective right,

826
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: and you meet people on the way to help you

827
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: take those glass is often put on some different ones,

828
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean, look through life through a

829
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: different lens. And that's what my wife has been able

830
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: to do. So it's been cool. Man, she makes you better.

831
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: It's a good thing to have somebody around everything. Man

832
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: is a great woman, there's no question about that. We're

833
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: speaking on your wife. Tell us what it's like having

834
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: such a public relationship. You know, obviously we want to

835
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: keep as much stuff private, but when you have a

836
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: superstar movie wife and a superstar NBA player, the good,

837
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: bad and in between, it's going to be publicized. Tell

838
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: me how you guys navigate through that and and hold

839
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: a common you know strength. It's been tough at times.

840
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: You can lie to you. She ain't been easy, you

841
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I think ultimately for us, you know,

842
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: we both love each other. We both are committed to

843
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: supporting each other. So we figured out. But it's definitely

844
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: times where um, you know we have to you know,

845
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: we have to go through the ship together. Um. But

846
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: you guys, see, man, my wife is very outspoken. She's

847
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: a real one. She's not ain't not none of that

848
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: is for show. That's who she is. Everybody knows it.

849
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, one thing you know about guys, she is

850
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: who she is. Um, so she's helped me grow up,

851
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying in a lot of errors.

852
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: But you know, I support her, you know, and I

853
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: think for me early on to just something simple as

854
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: I had to be okay with supporting her as an

855
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: actress first because like I got with as an actress.

856
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: But then it gets real when you start seeing those

857
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: sexual scenes, You're like, hold on, hold on. Before ghost

858
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: was got being Mary Jane wife, now I was like,

859
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: oh player, but then he became ghosts. I don't mess

860
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: with him. Uh but yeah, man, you know what I mean.

861
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: So I think I've grown so much just about being

862
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: in a relationship with this woman. Man. But um, you know,

863
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: she's somebody who I feel like, you know, you can

864
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: help the world change, you know, I mean, she can

865
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: definitely change the world. She has it in her. So

866
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: it's been cool watching her grow into you know, who

867
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: she's become as well, and and understanding alone the way

868
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: like even though you know we have a public relationship,

869
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: you know, we definitely try to keep on individual brands,

870
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, going and and then we understand the right

871
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: time to bring it together, you know what I mean.

872
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Like just like the getor ready to added we had

873
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: and we got another coming out soon. That's pretty cool.

874
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: And we bring it together the right way, but we

875
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: also keep it separate, you know in a sense as well,

876
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: because you know, Mama got to pay half on a

877
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: lot of things. You were half and half over on

878
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: the side. And remember that agreement we talked. Tell me

879
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: what it's like to because it's almost like a roll

880
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: reverse on off. Can We spoke about how as soon

881
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: as you were retired, it's time to move to l

882
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: A and that's probably because you need to support her

883
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: and her movement. Now, tell me what that adjustment was,

884
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: liking what that situation was. Well, you know what, it

885
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: wasn't as easy as I probably have made it look um,

886
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I think about this. You know, for

887
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: the last let's eight to ten years, my wife has

888
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: been flying to Miami every weekend. She works five days

889
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: a week. She fled to Miami every weekend and make

890
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: sure the family is you know, make sure we're good.

891
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: You know, she's been doing that a week out the

892
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: week out the week for years. So when it was

893
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: time for me to to to now it's time for

894
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: you to support you know, it was like, hey, leave

895
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: what you leave your comfort zone and you know, bring

896
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: your ass to l A. But know, my wife's career

897
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: is here, my daughter's here, you know. Um And for me,

898
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: it was just like sitting down thinking about each of

899
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: my kids and I'm like, all right, how can each

900
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: one of them benefit? Um here, I have a six

901
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: year old son who lives here. How can he benefit

902
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: for me being here? And then how can my career

903
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: benefit for me being here? And you know it all

904
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: signs pointed up, so it was it actually became an

905
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: easy decision from the standpoint of the next phase of

906
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: my life. Um, you know, to to make that move.

907
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: But everyone saying, how can you leave Wade County? How

908
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: can you That's that's always gonna be there, you know

909
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you know, my home is what

910
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: my family is. My family is here, so you know,

911
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: right now, you know we're forging forward. You know what

912
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: this side gonna look like. And anytime I'm ready to

913
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: go back to Miami to get that way kind of love,

914
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: I get on the plane, hop back and go do

915
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: what I need to do. I mean it could be worse.

916
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: I mean, l A, I mean it could be a

917
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: lot worse. She's telling you that you got to go

918
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: move to Milwaukee to Memphis. You gotta move to Hollywood

919
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: with me, baby. So I think that's cool. Let's go

920
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: back to desire. Um, I know it's kind of hard.

921
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: I have two sons too, like we talked about, and

922
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to put high expectations or your son at

923
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: this act because, like I said, you want them to

924
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: have fun. You want them to grow up and be

925
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: their own man. Um, do you have any expectation to

926
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: them and playing with Brownnie? You know, I know you

927
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: love that you're being able to sit the courtside with

928
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: Lebron and cheer on your boys talk. Let's talk about that. Yeah, man,

929
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: First of all, that's the fun part of him. Man,

930
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: his parents make a decision like hey, you know, when

931
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: I knew I was moving out to l A and

932
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: brown on the phone just talked about, you know, both

933
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: of our kids and where they was at. I think

934
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: Brownie was at Cross Worlds at the time. We both

935
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: talked about it. And to be able to make a

936
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: decision that, you know, let's it's a basketball decision for

937
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: us as a family is a senior um to put

938
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: them together, you know, to do something special. Other players

939
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: joining that's very talented was Zarya Williams and um, you

940
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: know Brandon Boston over there, I mean as well and

941
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: other kids. It was like, yo, this is a great

942
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: this is a great time to be a dad's right,

943
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: right for both of us. And you know, as you

944
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: see him on the sideline, you see me on the sideline.

945
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: We get into it, and then we get into it

946
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: from a fan perspective, man, and just support the parents

947
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: perspective as well. We crazy his head on that sideline

948
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 1: just like the rest of the parents in the world.

949
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Just because we played the sport. I don't mean we

950
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: you know, we're not just like everyone else. So that's

951
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: been cool, you know, from that from the respect to

952
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: be able to to to to create a memory for

953
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,959
Speaker 1: those guys, this is the moment that's happening for them.

954
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: They on ESPN and all this cool right right, more

955
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: than NBA teams, they're getting exposure daily. Um, and it's

956
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: tough because they got to navigate it. But you know,

957
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: we're trying to prepare them for the for the for

958
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: the next level um of college and once they reached

959
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: this real world. So um, it's been cool as well. Man,

960
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: kind of advice, your gift to him, I think from

961
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: a basketball perspective, you know, as I talked about, it's

962
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: very something to my dad. You know, I want you

963
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: to be You have to make sure you put yourself

964
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: in a position where a coach always feel like you

965
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: deserve to be on the floor. I'm not. Don't never

966
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: be one dimensional, you know what I mean. Have multifacets

967
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: to your game. Um, And I think that's one thing

968
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: he's developed right now. Like what I love about what

969
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: my son is doing is defensively, he's turned into a

970
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: good defender, you know. I mean he's changing the game

971
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: to inastially when he gets in. Uh. That's the stuff

972
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I care about more so than the dunks in the highlights.

973
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: So and my advice to him, man, it's you know

974
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you're finding like who you are?

975
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: Find you know what I'm saying, and find like your

976
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: purpose and playing this game? Why are you playing? That's

977
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: why I act like I said, why are you playing

978
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: this game? Because I don't want you to play because

979
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: your dad plays, because the world spect you to what's

980
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: your reasons? So find your wife, find your purpose of

981
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: why you play this game? And you know If it's

982
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: for the right reasons, then keep going. If it's for

983
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: the wrong reasons, then let's sit on and let's talk

984
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: about it. Because you only play this game, you know,

985
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: for for you know, for you. You're not playing this

986
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: game for me. You playing this game for that year.

987
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: So I just love that he's enjoying it, you know

988
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And wherever it takes him, um, it's

989
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: going to take him to his right path, you know

990
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. What's up now? What the power and

991
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: influence that social media have and you being who you are,

992
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: your wife being who she is, does that concern you

993
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: about your kids? You know, like you said, your youngerselves

994
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: not known in yet, but but but being a part

995
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: of it because it can be such a nasty area

996
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: and some kids really get lost in it. Yeah, it

997
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: definitely concerns you. You try to keep them off social

998
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: media as long as possible, but that's that this the world, right,

999
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: So I think we try to help them navigate how

1000
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: the world's going to be. Like, you know, it's only

1001
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: so long you can keep it from to keep the

1002
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: real world from because it's coming, and you know, and

1003
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: I think our job is to help them navigate through it.

1004
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to comments, you can't have

1005
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: comments from kids. They're gonna read them, or they their

1006
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: friends gonna tell them more. Someone's gonna make sure they know.

1007
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: So for us, it's about every time they go through

1008
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, something that's been sad, is something they can't

1009
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: do with is our job as parents to parent them

1010
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: and help them through it and not hide them from

1011
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: what the world is. You know what I mean, the

1012
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: worst thing to do is to call them, call them,

1013
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: call them, and then now you gotta let them out

1014
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: to the world, and they don't know how to navigate. So,

1015
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, we grew up talking about we have street smarts,

1016
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a little different. They got to

1017
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: be street smarts, but life smarts. So we're trying to

1018
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: teach them how to navigate through life. Now. It almost

1019
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: like you kind of the Thanksgiving social media post you

1020
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: guys made, it's kind of what's kind of like the

1021
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: welcoming and more of it made a splash. Although you

1022
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: guys did the Pride parade in Miami, the social media

1023
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: post on Thanksgiving, it's kind of what splashed the world.

1024
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: So with the positive and the negative feedback was there

1025
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: a conversation amongst the family because everyone kind of came out.

1026
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I saw Zayr made a post, you obviously spoke on

1027
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: and gave me spoke on. It was there like a

1028
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: family coming together with that before you guys kind of

1029
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: spoke your piece. When I've seen that. When I seen

1030
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: Zaire's post, I loved it, you know, saying as a

1031
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: big brother, Oh he dropped sixteen, let me get my sixteen.

1032
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I loved it. And you

1033
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: know that I found it about supporting each other's right.

1034
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: No matter don't matter together this so we're all about

1035
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: supporting each other. So when I've seen that, as as

1036
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: as big brother, I loved it. Man, you know what

1037
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, you know, I just keep you know,

1038
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: I keep telling my kids. You know they're going to

1039
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: make mistakes in life, but I keep telling how proud

1040
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: I am of them because you know, they're growing, you know,

1041
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: into who they want to be. And it's hard in

1042
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: this world to navigate and be who you are because

1043
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: so many people is putting off this energy of who

1044
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: they think you're supposed to be. And you know, I'm

1045
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: trying to keep that away from them. And and show

1046
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: each one of them to be you and make everybody

1047
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: else figure it out around you and on your side

1048
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: supposed to you look me a lot of your peers

1049
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: on the propping them up. You know what I'm saying,

1050
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: a lot of you. I'm down with you Brown that

1051
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: I look man, And the love and support from you know,

1052
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: send this NBA community. First of all, you know your

1053
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: brother's it's been incredible. It's been dope. You know what

1054
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, you know, so I appreciate it. And

1055
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: we went to smoke too, so you know if you

1056
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: need it already know already listening, pulling up to go

1057
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: back to what you said. I mean, you know, man,

1058
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: it's like me and my wife is we have such

1059
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: a public life, but then we have moments where you know,

1060
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: we saw each other the movies, right, you know, we

1061
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: walk up as y'all you and your ladies, me and

1062
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: my lady, and we just try to be normal people,

1063
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know that's the

1064
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I like about l A to us,

1065
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,479
Speaker 1: you run into it more, yeah, you see it more.

1066
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: So I've been able to try to enjoy a normal life,

1067
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, in this Hollywood. It's crazy, but we try

1068
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: to have those moments. What we're just doing regular ship.

1069
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: People looking at it like, what is that them? Standing

1070
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: on previous shows? People think because you know, we were

1071
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: highly paid athletes and that that we're not human, We

1072
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: don't have feelings, you don't have emotions, were not regular.

1073
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: We're regular as people, regular people regularly. We was at

1074
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: the movies one time and him and Gabby came in

1075
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: and Gabby yelled my name across the whole movie. Nice,

1076
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: what's up? But it's just you know, it's like he said,

1077
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: it's just regularness that that that people don't think we have.

1078
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: But we definitely do. Sure, definitely do. Let's talk a

1079
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: little bit of NBA. What do you think of the game,

1080
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: because it's so much different now from when you came

1081
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: in the game where this it was you know, they

1082
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: were allowed to play some defense and it was more

1083
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: transition and this isn't that you can hopste up Yeah,

1084
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: used to used to kill. I think his his biggest

1085
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: thing to me was rejecting the pick. And we knew

1086
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: in the scattering port he's going to reject the pick.

1087
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: Stay like that is still because if he goes over.

1088
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: He's going down here regards. But if you jump too high,

1089
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna cross over and go based on it, dunk

1090
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: that bit and force them to the pick. And you

1091
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: can never force them to the pit. But anyway, just

1092
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: the future that the game and how it's changed from

1093
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: the time you were making, you know, doing what you

1094
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: do to what it is now. Well you got those

1095
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: way different, way different, right, I mean it changed multiple

1096
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: times in my career. Um, So I'm not one of

1097
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: those guys, even though it's still I'm still fresh and

1098
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: just left the game, But I'm not one of those

1099
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: guys that feel like, oh, they need to play the

1100
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: way we played. It needs to you know, the world

1101
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: changes and you have to evolve with it, you know

1102
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So the game is evolved. You know

1103
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: the rules have changed, um, and you know it's allowed

1104
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: guys to have more freedom to be more creative. Um.

1105
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: You know. I mean you see a guy like James,

1106
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: the numbers he putting up, and it's not that they're

1107
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: doing something that guys haven't done. I mean, I was Cobe,

1108
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: Kobe put up a string like that, MJ put up

1109
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: a stream. It doesn't matter, you know, I'm saying the

1110
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: way the style was, and I just feel like allowed

1111
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: them to be them, allowed them to make to create

1112
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: their own you know, uh portrait, you know, and they

1113
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: got a blank canvas. Let them trig with their stories,

1114
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: going to be in their generation. Um So, I love it.

1115
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: I support it. Um you know, I feel like we

1116
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: all set you know bars, you know, records are set

1117
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: as a bar, and that bar set for the next

1118
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: person to come and jump over it. You know, it's

1119
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: the only way that you know, in our community, we're

1120
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: going to succeed if we set bars allowed and and

1121
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: and have the next generation keep jumping over. So you know,

1122
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: these guys are trying to jump over the bars that

1123
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: was set by the guys before them. They're just doing

1124
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: it in a different way, and there's nothing wrong with it.

1125
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: Who were some of the younger players you enjoy watching

1126
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: these days? Um So, obviously one of my favorites is

1127
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: DeAngelo Way, Way, shout out there, Way, the first athletes

1128
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: that touch on that. Well, I love a kid, you

1129
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like he's I love him one too.

1130
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: He's not perfect. Boom, Let's get that out the way now,

1131
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: we know that made mistakes. Cool. I like him I

1132
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: want nobody that's perfect right back from him, right. He's

1133
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: the hell of a basketball player, the fashionable kid. Um.

1134
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: You know, it really got his mind in the right

1135
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: place when it comes to what you want to build.

1136
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: He has a vision for himself. So you know, when

1137
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: I sat down with him, I was like, this is

1138
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: a person I wanted to leave my brand. Um and

1139
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: I had the honor to be able to do that.

1140
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: So it's cool for me. Man. You know, obviously he's

1141
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: one of my my favorite players. But you know, I

1142
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: love a lot of the young guys. I mean, Devin

1143
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: Booker is one of my favorite. Love Devin, um um.

1144
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: I love the new guys like m John Morant, Monster

1145
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: Boy can go um um, Luca, I love Luca look,

1146
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's something. Just the numbers that Lucas

1147
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: is putting up at the unbelievable. It's crazy. But Jaren

1148
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Jackson is one of my favorite I love that. I

1149
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: love just seeing his growth so far. Another night, the

1150
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: kid hit nine threes, big man coming in shooting a

1151
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: couple here. Now you hit nine threes. Uh, Well, So

1152
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: there's so many young you other young guys like dearon

1153
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Fox and I really really like, I love the potential

1154
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: of dear and you know, I'm me like, if he

1155
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: reaches his potential, the sky's the limits of Donovan Mitchell.

1156
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: You know that's my young What I love about Donovan

1157
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: Donovan that he have Donovan to texts me two in

1158
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: the morning, ask me anything and he's like, hey, d

1159
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: I need you. Can you watch this film? Can you

1160
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: send me some notes? Like he do anything? And I

1161
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: love that he reaches out and use their resource. You

1162
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. See someone that's someone that reminds

1163
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: me of you very someone that I mean, do you

1164
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: agree with that is or anything else in the league?

1165
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: Do you think because to me when I saw him

1166
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: players like damn, this is another d way. Yeah, I

1167
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: agree with you got when I look at him and

1168
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 1: see certain things, it's like it's like that means saying

1169
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: myself right and you tell oh, ship, Yeah, definitely, I

1170
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: love that kid, you know what I'm saying that. But

1171
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: what what I love most abut him and he's not

1172
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: shying to reach out naxt. Now you know what I'm saying.

1173
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: You you're getting this place sometimes when you feel like

1174
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: I got all answers or you know, I don't want

1175
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: to feel like I need anybody Like the kid. He

1176
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: reaches out and he asks all kind of questions you

1177
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: no matter what time I let him know, like you know,

1178
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: my line is open anytime I can help you navigate

1179
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: through this um So, you know, he's definitely one of

1180
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: my favorite people. Also, it's one of my favorite players.

1181
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a longless I love the talent

1182
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: of these young guys. Now they have to reach that,

1183
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, the what the pressure that we that we

1184
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: put on them or who's going to be the next star?

1185
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean, but I love it Like zach Lavine. I

1186
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 1: love zach Lavinia, you know what I mean. He got game.

1187
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: These kids got they can. I don't mean to call

1188
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: your kids they men. Yeah, but like these young men

1189
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: they can, they can go. It's just about, you know,

1190
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: saying somebody around them that can help them all reach

1191
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: their potential to see who's going to be the next grade.

1192
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: You touched on Donovan Mitchell reaching out to any other

1193
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: players leaning on you because I know Kobe has an

1194
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: open window and open door policy with that, have more

1195
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: players reached out to you as well well? A lot

1196
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: of guys that you know, I host a camp in

1197
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 1: the summers, you know for guys um where it's called

1198
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: the invite and I invite UM. You know, multiple guys

1199
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: that come to my camp and we kind of have

1200
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: that moment where we sit and talk about business. Um.

1201
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: I like to talk about my pitfalls and you know,

1202
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: my successes. Um, we talk about the game. You know.

1203
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: So you know I had a lot of the young guys.

1204
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, Cody White was there, Colin Sacks was there. Uh,

1205
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: some of the young guys like Devin and some of

1206
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: these guys, younger guys was there. Like it's just cool

1207
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: to be able to pass down, you know, the information

1208
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: knowledge that you learned throughout this game. So I've been

1209
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: doing it for two years and I'm excited to keep

1210
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: it going. So definitely, guys reach out all the time.

1211
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: They're not as shy as like I probably were when

1212
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: I came in. It was just a different it was

1213
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: a different Yeah, I want to ask nobody nothing because

1214
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: the vets they want to trying to message you like that. Yeah.

1215
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: So it's just it's a different day, man. So it's

1216
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: cool to be a part of being like one of

1217
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: the vets that they feel they can reach out to.

1218
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: It's the question I wanted to ask you give me

1219
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: five of your most underrated players you played against that

1220
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: I played again? Underrated. We know all the good players

1221
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: you played again, that's a damn five. Uh that was underrated,

1222
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: joo one of I mean, it's a Hall of Famer

1223
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: to me. But Chauncey Billups, big shot, very underrated bro So,

1224
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: the rated, perfect piece for that team. Hated guarding him.

1225
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Um he just he just had a knack for those

1226
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: always under control, always under controled. I love you, but

1227
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: I hated Chauncey bro as a competitor. Um So. He

1228
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: definitely was one of my top five underrated players I

1229
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: played against. Um so many many players. I'm going back

1230
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: to the beginning of my career too. I'm just trying

1231
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: to go back. I need some names. I got Baron Davis. Oh, well,

1232
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: everybody know my bads. Beat helped me become the player

1233
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: that I became. Early, very early, gave me everything I wanted.

1234
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: But I grew up. I had to grow a fast.

1235
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: You grew up past I had to. I had to

1236
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: take them diapers off early. Yeah. Yeah, b D definitely

1237
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: loved b D. I mean, he's one of those players

1238
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: that unfortunately had to deal with injuries kind of like me.

1239
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: But you know certain players you like man and they

1240
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with it. If what if you

1241
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we got a chance. We saw

1242
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: primetime b D you know, early on, but with that

1243
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: we believe Bearing was unbelievable. He was the best player,

1244
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: hands down, and I'm just like guy and he was

1245
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: still dragging one leg and back back and so if

1246
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: he was, if it was that goes stay b D.

1247
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: When you get oh man, that was that was one

1248
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,280
Speaker 1: of my That was one of the most exciting teams

1249
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: to watch. Bro never know what to expect out of y'all,

1250
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: but we got a dot coming listened, sign me up

1251
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: right away, im there. I mean that that was amazing

1252
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: with b D at that time to like you said,

1253
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: dragging one leg at times just some monster dog and

1254
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: to this day and he could still get buckets one

1255
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: mad still get buckets on your slow motion, you know

1256
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So he's definitely one of them for

1257
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: me as well. Paper teammates my favorite teammates for different reasons. Um,

1258
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: obviously everyone knows you. D is my favorite teammate of

1259
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: course Mr Miami, Mr three oh five, The real three

1260
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: oh five. You save me a lot of money on fines. Yeah,

1261
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: you're riding here, riding. He don't check them outledge, he

1262
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: just ride. He wouldn't even let me pay for him neither.

1263
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: Uh do. Um. One of my favorite teammates was Channing

1264
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: Friday when I went to Cleveland. Actually, he's funny, funny,

1265
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: one of my favorite teammates, one of my favorite people. Um,

1266
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: it's funny. A lot of your favorite teammates, not the

1267
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: guys of everyone think think about it. Um, James Jones

1268
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: one of my favorite teammates. Good dude, now gm Ethoenix. Um,

1269
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: one of my favorite teammates. Man. Um, Eddie House, Oh,

1270
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: I love Eddie House everybody. Oh, he's the character about

1271
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: his mother. Shout out House, shut out to Eddie Household

1272
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: fast talking. He's funny, probably talking what he gonna talk

1273
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,479
Speaker 1: about me? Whoever you're around, you gonna be talking about

1274
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: one of my definitely one of my favorite. So it's

1275
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: all the guys, man, that you know, once you go through,

1276
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: especially you're going through this league as a star, these

1277
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: the guys that you lean on. These the guys that

1278
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: brings some human to you. These are guys that you

1279
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: can talk about about anything, and they you know, saying

1280
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: they always there that that that showed in that ear,

1281
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: you know, tend to listen to your your wine and

1282
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: complain about being the star in the league. You know

1283
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You complaining, you know, but like these

1284
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: guys that they mean a lot to you. So before

1285
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: we transition out real quick into the next and final topic,

1286
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: real quick, toughest player for you to guard and the

1287
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: person you hated that guarded you the most. Um, toughest

1288
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: players for me to guard always go with guys like

1289
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: Rayal and Rip Hamilton. Then move they move. I hated that.

1290
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm a shot blocker too, so I like weak side.

1291
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: I like, you know, knowing watching the ball stills gone.

1292
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: I hated guarding those dudes, especially Rip because you had

1293
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: them nails too. He was dirty as yes a lot

1294
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: of times put them nails and you just start the

1295
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: game like rip this the tip the ball, just tip.

1296
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: I hated Guarden, hated Guarden, Raid, Just guys like that,

1297
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: you know saying that move that constantly. Um, And you

1298
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: said the guy hated guarding me, Yeah, Um, you know

1299
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: what I mean. It was some guys who I felt

1300
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: like guarding me good, But I never feel like I

1301
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: hated no one guarding me. Always for me, it was

1302
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: always a different challenge. So it was. And now I'm saying,

1303
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: some guys played me very well. I mean, guy like

1304
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: Kirk Hinrichs played me very well, you know what I mean.

1305
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: And people like Kirk Hinrich he frustrated the hell out

1306
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: of me too. For some reads position defender you know

1307
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, didn't go smart, didn't go for shot,

1308
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: and he was tough and love defense. And when I

1309
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: when I got him, when I had a game where

1310
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: I scored forty while I walked away with my chest pokee,

1311
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it was so many

1312
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: NICs where I had to work hard to get those points.

1313
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: You know, shout out to Kirk hiras Man just underrated defender. Um.

1314
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: But I didn't never hate a guy to fend like Kobe.

1315
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: He guarded me once, he respected me. He guarded me

1316
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: very tough. But I loved it, you know because like

1317
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: even if you know he turned me, turned me, turned me,

1318
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: I get a second count or I lose it or

1319
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: something like. So now it's just it's the next challenge

1320
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: for me. And throughout the game, you need to find

1321
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: different challenges. So the best defenders of the round test.

1322
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: Once I once I got to the point where I

1323
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: felt like Ron, I'm here. Like once I once I

1324
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: saw the respect from Ron, I was like, oh, I'm

1325
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: here now when I'm early in my career. So these

1326
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: great defenders, they let you know where you at. You

1327
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so for me, like I

1328
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: appreciate all of them, I didn't need one of them.

1329
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: That's what's up. I gave my all buckets to you, didn't.

1330
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: I know you're big into you know, even while you play,

1331
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: but now definitely you know culture, just being on the scene.

1332
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: You recently went to Diddie fifty a birthday party. Yeah, man,

1333
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: claim Black Now it was dope, bro. You know I've

1334
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: been on his l A side, you know, getting invited

1335
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: to things that you've seen other people going through for

1336
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: many years. It was cool. Um So actually my wife,

1337
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: my wife wasn't there because she had some business in

1338
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: New York. So I wasn't going to go. My wife

1339
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: was like, fool, Yeah, you have a good time. You retired.

1340
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: She was like you better go right. But you know

1341
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: what was cool about it? First of all, I mean

1342
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Diddy brow and unbelievable. You know, amount of people together

1343
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: from every different walks of life. You've seen how much

1344
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: love that was there for brother love you know, so

1345
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: you see what he means to so many different generations

1346
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: and it's a beautiful thing to see. Um. But you know,

1347
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: for me, what was so cool about it? And it's

1348
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: a picture that I posted. We see me and did he?

1349
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: You know, we we're toasting the champagne glass and at

1350
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: that moment what we were talking about was uh, like

1351
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: sixteen years ago. Um, and I was I was a

1352
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: young kid, my second yar in the league. I was

1353
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: in Purvey, you know in Miami it was opium and

1354
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: didn't Prevey y'all know about it. H I'm sitting there,

1355
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in the club and I'm starting to

1356
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: feel myself a little bit. I'm getting my name going.

1357
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Uh and did he walks up to me? And I'm

1358
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: sitting there like, oh ship did did he? And he

1359
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: walked up to me and he said, Yo, I'm about

1360
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: to make you the first supermodel superstar and like you know,

1361
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: he was like, listen, I want you to um, I

1362
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: want you to model for Sean John blah blah blah,

1363
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: he had this whole plan from me, and I remember

1364
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: just sitting there like okay, okay, okay, like you know

1365
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: this is then, and so we were just talking about

1366
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: this four circle moments, you know, and life, you know

1367
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like he was one of the first

1368
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: ones to see who I could become in this world business,

1369
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the business side, and really

1370
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: put me on from that standpoint, and you know, just

1371
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: to be there in that moment. We were just toasting

1372
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: to just success, you know, black excellence and success you

1373
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: know in life. Man. So it's cool man. Shout out,

1374
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 1: happy fifty birthday, man, and shout out did he that birthday? Brother?

1375
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: Now pull up owners and come drop off some rocks.

1376
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: It's rocking all other stuff you got going on. Didn't

1377
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: happy birthday? But you know nine times start acting for ship,

1378
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: oh speaking for the biggest segment. Uh, the way you

1379
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: will big with the stand socks. I see you'd be

1380
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: rocking them all the time. I need a ship with

1381
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: my boy. Don't send the plug. And from I know

1382
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: you got a lot of you know, I ain't we

1383
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: max for no way, no ways, the way ways, because

1384
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: I see I see you just coming out with a

1385
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: brand new pad to day. I ain't we speak on them,

1386
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: but can I get some socks? List packs? My brothers,

1387
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: let's get boxes. Well, goddamn it, let me get a

1388
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: boxing boxing stand. Listen. So I just started a new

1389
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: side company with stands. It's called Parkway Parkway, and we

1390
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: just in the targets. So I'm in all targets around

1391
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: the world. Shout out the Parkway, um, you know, So

1392
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: for me, I'm gonna make sure that y'all guy boxes

1393
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: and neighbors, all my people parkway side shout out the

1394
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: park Shout the target too. So I'll make sure my

1395
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: guys you know, sitting here, you know, with this fresh

1396
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: shoes that they be wearing. I don't want to say

1397
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: the brand name. You know, Yeah, Contracts were the fresh

1398
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: fresh sneakers that they be wearing. I want to make

1399
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: sure they got the right soide, I need that target

1400
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: plug too. I'm in targets. I'm not in the ones

1401
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 1: all around the world, so I need your target plugs,

1402
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: like huge, shout the target target giveaway. This weekend, do

1403
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: we do a give Christmas giveaway to the single mother's

1404
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: toothbrushes and tooth figs? No, no, no, toys, clothes, whatever

1405
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: the women need for this single Mother's not what I need.

1406
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I keep my tooth picks

1407
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: on me. Got to let's transition in the real quick.

1408
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna start doing some quick hitters. But music, what

1409
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: do you listen to? Who's your top five? This? We

1410
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: got something behind you on the wall. Unfortunately, I know

1411
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: you heard it her way. Huh the big fella, you

1412
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: know I got so for me, man, It's funny because

1413
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, we had these questions all the time. So

1414
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: for me, I think jay Z is number one. When

1415
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: I was young, it was Tupac, but you know, we

1416
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to continue to keep growing together.

1417
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: So I've grown up with jay Z. Man, he's number

1418
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: one on my list. And from now I'm not saying

1419
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: arrested in the order, but Drake is in my top five,

1420
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: Little Wings in my top five. Thank you, um obviously,

1421
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: thank you in my top five. Um and um ross

1422
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: huh uh. You know this is what I lost, So underrated,

1423
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: so many amazing there's so many amazing to pick from, bro,

1424
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: But it's all about how you vibe. You know what

1425
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They tell that you know, saying, how you

1426
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: relate to so those five, I'll relate to them on

1427
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: a you know, on a different level. But nowadays, man

1428
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: like I try to stay up in in the culture.

1429
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: It's just hard for me. It's too many little it's

1430
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: too hard little this little, this little that little bits

1431
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: like everybody. Yeah, it's grown. We had a little wayane

1432
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: a little bout what we had the little. Now it's babies,

1433
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: baby baby step babies, yeah, legitimate baby like you know,

1434
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: I didn't want this. They wave like babies. So you know,

1435
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: my kids like kids, listen to everything. When I'm around him,

1436
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: I try to try to be that cool hit dad.

1437
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, I know obviously, you know, we know

1438
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: some of some of the guys you just can't deny.

1439
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: Somebody don't break through and you can't deny you know

1440
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, shout out the baby and me goes.

1441
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's certain people you can they will not

1442
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: be denied. That greatness is there. But when I get

1443
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: in my car, man, I just I gotta go to

1444
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: mold school playlist, you know, I gotta go to the music.

1445
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: I know sound to your life. You know, we just

1446
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: listening to it when you came in. Yeah I need that. Yeah,

1447
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: I need that. So, you know, but shout out to

1448
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: everyone who's doing their thing and create their own wave

1449
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: and culture. Um, but you know, I'm old school Maya drummers.

1450
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you. If we're not out of supporting each other,

1451
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: what the funk we doing? Get out of the way.

1452
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean you was at our party four, you know

1453
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I spoke. I didn't really

1454
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: want to name drop on the show, but with Gabby's

1455
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: birthday party was turned was so it was a CALLI

1456
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: vo that was. That was the name of it. Caliboa right,

1457
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 1: it was a calibody for real. You got your Your

1458
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: name has been dropped in a lot of songs, jay Z,

1459
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of guys meet meal When I

1460
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: was young, I was like, what's your favorite hoping jay

1461
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Z actually did a video the other day, Um, Jesus

1462
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: playing Lebron I'm paying Dan Wight. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1463
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: I know where I remember I was that when I

1464
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: heard I was in the Strip club back in the day,

1465
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: shot alone a long time ago, and they played it

1466
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: like cashly and I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait wait,

1467
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: what was the first time you heard it first time

1468
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: I heard it and I was like, I went up

1469
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: to the teach. I was like, Yo, wait but that

1470
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: play that again played on put it all night. I

1471
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: was like, my mom made it. But I remember talking

1472
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: to Jay about it. Man. I remember acting Jay like, YO,

1473
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: like to me, it's crazy that you're creating, you know,

1474
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: saying something that's magical for you and you think of me, right, Like,

1475
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: it's still crazy to right And so I'm like, Yo,

1476
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: like what made you say this? What made you say

1477
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: my name? And this? Because he said it more than once,

1478
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it was just cool

1479
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: to hear, you know, his perspective from a from a

1480
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: standpoint of you know, what keeps artists relevant as well?

1481
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: You know, I mean what keeps you relevant? What's going on?

1482
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: You know? I get it. You are, you know, such

1483
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: a sud So it was cool just had that conversation

1484
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: with like, what what made you put my name in

1485
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: in this song? Because it's you know and probably State

1486
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: of Mine is legend, big song. It means a lot

1487
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: to appreciate. We said old some money too. Layne told

1488
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: me got a song coming out I'm called bottom like

1489
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: stack Jack and I ain't know all stuff, but that

1490
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: means a lot because I listen to Wayne you know

1491
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, so that that means a lot to us.

1492
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: It might not, it might not mean not to some people,

1493
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: but to us basketball players and listen to say music

1494
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: and growing up, that should mean a lot. So I

1495
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: don't think that we too cool to whatever we like.

1496
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: Just like anybody else out there. You hear your know,

1497
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: your name in the song, it could be your homies

1498
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: from the hood stuff is in there. You're you're geeking

1499
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: out every time my name is in a song, And

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: to me is always like, yo, I'm playing it. Let

1501
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: me hear that, Let me hear that. So shout out

1502
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: to anybody who decided to put this, because when I

1503
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: was young, I don't think my name was cool enough

1504
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: to go like I was like, I ain't wait, who

1505
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's that's a name. Who gonna say? Ain't so

1506
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: when they when they put your name and stuff, man,

1507
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: it's just it's a unbelievable bad honor man. Respect dope.

1508
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: Well you brought us a gift, man wine, you appreciate

1509
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I mean we I wanted to ask

1510
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: living or dead? Uh, five person wine session. Who would

1511
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: you invite to that party? And straight up that's a dope,

1512
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: dope as that's a question. So my first person I

1513
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 1: think about is Mark Luther King, always number one person

1514
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: I said, let me do security. I want I want

1515
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 1: to bring my little the King right because it's a lot.

1516
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: I gotta action the King King. Um, I'm definitely gonna

1517
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: have Barack. I want to buy it with Brock, specially

1518
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: drinking wine. I want to smoke a drink with me too. Yeah,

1519
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: I want to buy Okay, you say smoking to join

1520
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: and drinking wine. Both, we can do it. You know,

1521
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: I want to buy it. Welcome to the side. He's

1522
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: snuck it, he stuck. I'll live in I'll live in

1523
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: county now right right, So let me see those two

1524
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: for sure. Um, I think Oprah gonna be on my

1525
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: list too. I think I want to sit on a rabbit.

1526
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I'm saying. Chicago got roots open,

1527
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: is on the open in my room. Yeah, I gotta

1528
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: be Um who else? Like, I need two more people

1529
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be in there. Um, you got more Luther King,

1530
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: you got Barack, got Oprah? I got jay Z in

1531
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: my room to jay Z Jay Z wanted the coolest brothers.

1532
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: A lot um but so much game. So I got

1533
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: jay Z in my room too, after us you to

1534
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: get him on our show. And last I think I

1535
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: had Eddie Murphy. Oh you got you gotta have ye classic.

1536
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: That's a classic setting, right, I mean you know what too?

1537
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: And I forgot somebody. But it's hard. I wouldn't want

1538
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: Denzel in there too, So you know what I'm saying.

1539
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: If I could put another chair and make room, I'll

1540
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: bring this. Matter of fact, I'll leave the room. Yeah,

1541
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: I stand up in the corner. You got to be

1542
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: my room right there? Yeah, A nice five. What would

1543
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: a wine vibe be like with pat Riley? What of like?

1544
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: What pat Riley would what you mean like? What would

1545
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: that be like? Would it be a sit down? Have

1546
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: you have you got sat down and had a glass

1547
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 1: of wine? Why? Why do Why do I think he

1548
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 1: carre himself like he on Good Fellows? Let me say

1549
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: if to me? Yes, So I put our videos this

1550
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: summer when I went ridife, he went on yacht old school,

1551
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: he got rid of them. Man, let me tell you,

1552
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: for the first time I met I met a different

1553
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: pat Rally, But the first time last time ye had

1554
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: the lading outfits. Yeah, I'm at a different and yeah,

1555
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 1: and I think I walked away from that, like I'll

1556
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: have so much respect and love from But I walked

1557
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: away from that, and I said, Oh, I like this, dude,

1558
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: because this is the path that the world will never get.

1559
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: The chantas you know what I'm saying, Like when he

1560
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: let his hair down literally and he had no jel

1561
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: in that ship, no jel, just vacation, vacation and is

1562
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: a vibe. He's a mood. I shout out the path

1563
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: to post that video. First of all, you had to

1564
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: ask him. I had to get proven. Now, okay, you

1565
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, trying to teach you what he

1566
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: was teaching. It was so definitely for sure. Last question, Um,

1567
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: you know people can argue who's NBA is right now,

1568
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: bron Katie when he's healthy, honest, once Broun has done,

1569
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: who are the top three players you think will carry

1570
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: the league into the next generation so to speak? Well,

1571
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean definitely Katie right obviously when he's healthy. Snipe

1572
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: arguably just leave it at that. It's arguably it's crazy

1573
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: people that it's crazy that people that have I guess

1574
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: we just live in culture. They just love to talk ship.

1575
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: But people that didn't deny his natural talent and the

1576
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: fact that they have no basketball, you can't do it.

1577
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: You can't do can't nobody on the plan to do

1578
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: anything with Katie, you can't do okay, Right, So it's

1579
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: just certain guys that just you can't do not with him,

1580
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: and you know on this one, and Katie is another um.

1581
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: So when I think about the next generation, for me,

1582
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: I think about Katie being, you know, kind of the

1583
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: leader in that in that field. You think about what

1584
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: James hardness become Beard. I mean, it's undeniable. It's undeniable

1585
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 1: that he's one of the greatest ever touched the basketball.

1586
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying from a scoring standpoint, make

1587
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: it look easy. I mean when he's done just the

1588
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: way he's able to scored his basketball in the ways,

1589
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: we've just never seen it like this before, you know

1590
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's why he getting hate because we've

1591
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: never seen it like before. So he got to take

1592
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: that out of iverson hate because he's the one of

1593
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: the first ones to do it the way he's doing it.

1594
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: But keep going, bro do it your way. So those

1595
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: two for sure, and it's crazy they played together and yeah,

1596
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: I got and for me, I love stuff, man, I

1597
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: love Stuff. One of the greatest human beings that you

1598
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: ever meet. But he definitely helped changed this wave and

1599
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: his culture of this game. And you know, it don't

1600
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: stop for him. Like if he was playing right now,

1601
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: even though they wouldn't be as good, it would have

1602
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 1: been a show this year. It would have been a show.

1603
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: What people don't understand. This is a bad thing for

1604
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: the NBA. They're resting because he gets some rest out

1605
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: of Yeah, I don't know. And then I mean, it's

1606
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: a cold game that people don't realize. I went went.

1607
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a Warrior and Laker fan at hard

1608
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: post career, but Clay and stuff get to rest. Draymond

1609
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: is playing twenty minutes a game. If they end up

1610
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: being a bottom feeder, they're going to get a lottery pick.

1611
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: Dello still doing this thing. Unfortunately, he might be a

1612
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, a casualty of war. But then you put

1613
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: package that and get a superstar and they're right back

1614
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: in the mix. People don't understand you. You got to

1615
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: think that. You gotta think the game. You see it.

1616
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: If you know the game. Well, man, we appreciate you

1617
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 1: coming up here. Thank you for your time. Brother, But

1618
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate both of you man, both of

1619
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: you guys man on this. What I'm saying, y'all are

1620
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: a referenced for so many people you know out here

1621
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: do y'all got so many fans out here, man, people

1622
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: really respect and love were both of y'all stand for.

1623
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: So you know, when y'all got the show, I reached

1624
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: out to you right away. Congratulations and I'm glad that

1625
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: I was able to come on here, man, means a

1626
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: lot and grace. This velvet couch, man, we appreciate it,

1627
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: and listen to me, It's gonna be a lot of

1628
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: great people sitting here. So I'm glad I was able

1629
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 1: to against the wall and your purple with the velvet.

1630
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: You feel me anyway, man, that's a rap. Episode nine

1631
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: the Wayne. We appreciate your time, man, Jack. We did

1632
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: it again. All the smoke and make sure you find

1633
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: the Showtime Basketball YouTube and all the platforms and stream podcasts,

1634
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: all of them to see y'all next time. A loco

1635
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 1: Babo h