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Speaker 1: Chris west Link podcast studio. It's around the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: my god, rich eyes, and welcome to the Chris Westling Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Are you? It's an honor to be here in this chair,

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Speaker 1: but that was more of it was real. How are you?

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Speaker 1: first podcast. Yes, trust me, this facility like this one

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Speaker 1: So in success you start you know, hopefully doing what

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Speaker 1: run a forty yard dash in your suit, of course,

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Speaker 1: have to be the way I have to keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: Stafford took that route to the Super Bowl and a championship.

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Speaker 1: Then you start seeing other quarterbacks trying to get out.

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Speaker 1: Now you're seeing wide receivers getting paid like quarterbacks, and

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Speaker 1: certain wide receivers are getting paid like quarterbacks when they

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Speaker 1: don't have the leverage to get out and get paid back.

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Speaker 1: You know, I remember one of the first stories in

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Speaker 1: the history of NFL network was when Javon Walker wanted

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Speaker 1: to get paid by the packers and there was a

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Speaker 1: big stink because far's like, I think he should be

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Speaker 1: here when he was holding out, It's just like hay Brett,

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Speaker 1: you know, like stick to your business. And it was

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Speaker 1: a solid it was huge. It was huge. Davante Adam said,

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Speaker 1: a franchise tag hanging over him, and he still got

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Speaker 1: out and he still got paid the most money we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen a receiver get paid. So yes, the landscape

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Speaker 1: has totally changed. And now the wide receiver landscape is

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Speaker 1: fascinating in the fact that now guys who are on

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Speaker 1: the back end of their first contract in the second

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Speaker 1: round three guys d K, A, J and Debot wanting

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Speaker 1: to get paid, like Tyreek Hill just got paid and

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Speaker 1: like Davante Adams just got paid. And we'll see if

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Speaker 1: owners will do that in the same way We'll see

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Speaker 1: if owners will pay quarterbacks like the Browns are paying

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Speaker 1: Shawn Wats to pay him. I mean if fully guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: maybe not fully That's what I'm saying, Like, that's what

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Speaker 1: is That's what Michael Bidwell's on the clock with right

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Speaker 1: now he's the first one up with the quarterback saying

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Speaker 1: I want to get paid, and the answers like, of course,

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Speaker 1: we'll pay you. But am I going to cut a

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Speaker 1: two d million dollar check in escrow? Like I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So these are all things working out.

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Speaker 1: The debo thing in particular, there's three things that play here.

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Speaker 1: One the Niners can handle, one the Niners cannot handle,

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Speaker 1: and one that needs some massaging to handle. The one

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Speaker 1: that the Niners cannot handle is if he wants to

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Speaker 1: play somewhere other than California. I mean, that's where the

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Speaker 1: Niners can say, well, we're the San Francisco forty Niners.

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Speaker 1: What are we gonna do. We can't fix where we

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Speaker 1: play football, right. The one that the Niners can absolutely

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Speaker 1: handle if it's money. If it's money, they can pay him.

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Speaker 1: The question is is what if it is the situation

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Speaker 1: of him saying I don't want to be a running

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Speaker 1: back at the position. You know, are fantastic research staff

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Speaker 1: here at the network sent out a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: statistics on this subject matter just yesterday. One that jumped

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Speaker 1: at the screen with me is that the first thirty

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Speaker 1: three games of his career, he had something like forty rushes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in the last eleven games, he had eighty rushing attempts,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and only thirty receptions. It's totally flipped over

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Speaker 1: the last eleven weeks. And we played a sound bite

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Speaker 1: on My show today based on debot on My show

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Speaker 1: on November two days after he led the Niners in

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Speaker 1: rushing against the Jaguars, and he said that, um, he

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Speaker 1: loved contact and have a problem with contact. And I

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Speaker 1: asked him point blank. And it's one of those things

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Speaker 1: when you watch an interview back and you're thinking, you

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Speaker 1: forget what you asked him, and you're thinking, yourself, please

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Speaker 1: ask him a good question, Please ask him the question

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Speaker 1: I did get to him. I said, do you prefer

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Speaker 1: to run it or catch it and run it? What

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Speaker 1: do you prefer? And he said, I prefer catching and

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Speaker 1: running it, and um, And so we played that whole

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Speaker 1: SoundBite of him saying that he's got a great relationship

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Speaker 1: with Kyle Shannon and and it ended with him saying,

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Speaker 1: I want to catch it and run it. So the

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Speaker 1: question is what happened between then and now the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners contract offers what happened if that contract offer was

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Speaker 1: great off the jump. I doubt any of this has happened.

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Speaker 1: If you pay him like the number one receiver in

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Speaker 1: the league or one of them, then I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's complaining. I totally. I think I totally agree with

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Speaker 1: you there, because that's what I just to bring my Again,

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Speaker 1: another long winded answer full circle, is that the Niners

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Speaker 1: can fix this, address this problem by paying him the

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Speaker 1: money where he doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what time

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Speaker 1: zone he's in or how many running rushing attempts that

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Speaker 1: he's getting, diminishing his ability to maybe get a third

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Speaker 1: contract in his career, which I'm sure somebody is explaining

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Speaker 1: to him how this all works out. And the time

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Speaker 1: when I spoke to him when he said that he

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Speaker 1: didn't mind the contact, great relationship with his coach and

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Speaker 1: I prefer catching and running over running, was that the

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Speaker 1: two days after that eleven game stretch had just begun,

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Speaker 1: so he had not been used significantly at the running

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Speaker 1: back position yet in the manner in his previous thirty

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Speaker 1: three since after I hung up the phone from him.

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Speaker 1: So that's my take. I think you're totally right, Greg.

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Speaker 1: I think this is business, and I think that's what

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Speaker 1: it's all about, and maybe the differences can be then reconciled,

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Speaker 1: but it's also different business. And that's what I found

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Speaker 1: really interesting about this whole offseason, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is the latest part of it. It's like forty fans

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Speaker 1: and Titans fans will talk about a j Brown later

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Speaker 1: with Justin Graver, the grave digger back there, like they're

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Speaker 1: all up in arms, like, oh, this is no story

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Speaker 1: because they're not going anywhere. But these receivers kind of

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Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks are throwing away the unwritten rules. The

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Speaker 1: unwritten rules was like, yeah, you will get paid maybe

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Speaker 1: going into your fourth year if you don't have a

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Speaker 1: fifth year option, but it's after the draft, and like

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Speaker 1: that's when we're gonna talk and don't make life uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: for us now. But if you're Deebo Samuels, like why

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Speaker 1: not because I can just go kind of ferret out

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Speaker 1: some contract offer, you know, behind closed doors from a

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Speaker 1: team like the Jets. So I know for damn sure

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Speaker 1: that my value is seventy million dollars guaranteed seven million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year. And by putting this out there in

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Speaker 1: April before the forty niners are even ready. I think

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Speaker 1: they're caught flat foot in here. It's like, why not

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Speaker 1: do that? That's gonna make me the most amount of money?

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Speaker 1: Did you just change the T and a T N

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Speaker 1: to tampering? I mean sort of be the Jets are,

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Speaker 1: but well a team is doing that. It used to be.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're Deebo Samuel, tough cookies, you weren't.

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Speaker 1: You weren't a first round pick. So you don't get

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Speaker 1: that extra year, you don't get the same contract. You

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Speaker 1: gotta wait out this fourth year. Maybe they give you

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Speaker 1: an extension, maybe they just hit you with the tag.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they hit you the tag again. Now, Mark, things

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Speaker 1: have changed where if the wide receiver has enough leverage,

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Speaker 1: if he's a big enough start, he dictates the terms.

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Speaker 1: And now the Niners have to react off that. Do

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Speaker 1: we want to do we want to give him all

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Speaker 1: this money and with Jimmy g still tying up our

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Speaker 1: salary cap? Or do we look at look how we

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Speaker 1: got Deebo Samuel. He was a second round pick. This

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Speaker 1: is a good wide receiver draft. We have these teams

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Speaker 1: that are desperate to add somebody like Deebo. Do we

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Speaker 1: strike It's I'm sure it's whip last for the Niners

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Speaker 1: who just get out of season where he was a

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Speaker 1: stud of studs. But at the same time you can

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Speaker 1: get reeled in by the idea of starting fresh without it. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's like the Ronald Reagan trickle down effect, because you

562
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: were right. It started with the quarterback scene. Tom Brady

563
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Speaker 1: wield power and then then wheeld fame and glory off

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Speaker 1: of it, and Matthew Staffords thinking I can do that.

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Speaker 1: If you're Deebo Samuel and you don't react and do

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Speaker 1: the social media thing and scrub the account and wield

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Speaker 1: your public power and become part of the news cycle,

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Speaker 1: and you have other teams interested in your services, and

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Speaker 1: you're starting to lobby with the idea of trading and

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Speaker 1: before the draft. This is a perfectly time maneuver by

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. You look dumb if you're as valuable as

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Speaker 1: he is and you sit quiet and don't get that

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Speaker 1: money now, because like the old days, was the contract

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Speaker 1: was the contract Now it's like if you're on fire.

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Speaker 1: By the end of year three, you started, you start

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Speaker 1: a war. People have been getting those contracts for a while.

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Speaker 1: I think, to be clear, I think a Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 1: was gonna get offered a nice contract this offseason. It

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Speaker 1: just would have happened in June and July and it

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Speaker 1: would have like slowly crept up from sixteen to nineteen million.

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Speaker 1: He's just like, no, I'm gonna see if another team

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Speaker 1: wants to give up to first everything to go against

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. So you don't want to live on the

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Speaker 1: West coast, pay California tax I mean, that could be

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Speaker 1: part of it. Sounds like guts to bring it all

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Speaker 1: together about wanting to get paid after year three and

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Speaker 1: not go into year four. Is that's what Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: wants to do. Because all you gotta do is just

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Speaker 1: take a look at Baker Mayfield, who went into year

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Speaker 1: four coming off of the first playoff victory for the

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Speaker 1: brown since beating the Steelers and almost taking care of

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. That's how he entered year four,

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Speaker 1: an exit year four on a podcast couch next to

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Speaker 1: a dog looking for a belly scratch. That's all you

595
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: need to know. That's Kyler Murray is like, you know what,

596
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: he may love animals, but he does not want to

597
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Speaker 1: be sitting on a podcast couch next to a dog

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Speaker 1: that was, you know, looking for a scratch. Isn't what

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's doing right now? Isn't the difference? Though? Because

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Speaker 1: we can see what Deebo's doing, we're like, well, he's

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Speaker 1: totally valuable and worth the money. When Kyler Murray has

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Speaker 1: done what he's done, I mean, there's certainly a talented

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Speaker 1: player there, But in general Kyler Murray and what he's created,

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Speaker 1: I look at and say, no, that contract. You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get that massive contract right now. And the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: aren't rushing to pay him either. I don't know how. Look, man,

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Speaker 1: he is incredibly talented. He is definitely playing above five

608
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Speaker 1: and a half million. Someone would give it to him, though,

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Speaker 1: It's like David Tepper would give it. It's Deshaun Watson's

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Speaker 1: contract today. I think. So you think someone's going to

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Speaker 1: give Kyler Murray Deshaun Watson's contract, Like, there has to

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Speaker 1: be more of a tiered element here because it can't

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Speaker 1: just be Kyler. He becomes the hut. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a whole other conversation, Greg. Somebody would totally that's quite

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Speaker 1: a role of the dice. Watson for all his off

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Speaker 1: the field issues. I think it showed more as a

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Speaker 1: player than Kyler. Sure, but once you get to the

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Speaker 1: point where it's like, hey, you're a difference making quarterback,

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Speaker 1: I think they would be handing out that. Especially there's

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Speaker 1: there's some sort of issue there between Kyler and the

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Speaker 1: team that is different than all these situations him and

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Speaker 1: they're not. They don't seem Kyler knows them too. I

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting this week a couple of his

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Speaker 1: teammates are ex teammates now, Patrick Peterson and Chase Edmonds

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Speaker 1: both indicated like Kyler really wants to win and hasn't

626
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Speaker 1: been too happy with how they they were handling things,

627
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Speaker 1: And did you imagine it all said and done that

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks go into the season with Drew Lock, Geno

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Speaker 1: Smith and whoever they might get a week from now

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, Nevada, and then the Arizona Cardinals could

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Speaker 1: potentially go into the season with Kyler Murray livid and

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Speaker 1: not showing up and creating a problem and showing up

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Speaker 1: in center field for the Oakland A's or something like

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00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: something crazy like that, because you can't say that that's

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Speaker 1: not possible in this hell going on. Well, and that

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Speaker 1: the at the very same time, the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: Niners could potentially go into this season with Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, without Deebo Samuel and the offense and our

639
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: neighbors across the street are like red our back feed

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Speaker 1: up on the desk, cackling with their cigars, staring at

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Speaker 1: the gleam of their Pacific Coast sunlight off of the

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Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy that they just won. With Stafford resigned and

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Speaker 1: Allan Robinson brought in and Bobby Wagner behind Aaron Donald

644
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Speaker 1: who did not retire, with their coach who did not

645
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Speaker 1: leave them, with Jalen Ramsey still there and everybody ready

646
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: to go once again, they are just Mark nightmare. He

647
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: was worried before we moved in next to him that

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Speaker 1: we would somehow become like house boys for the Rams,

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Speaker 1: that we'd be like the Rams team or worst nightmares

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Speaker 1: have come true. They won the Super Bowl in their

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Speaker 1: own hometown and now they're just gonna be cruising. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I also experienced, you know, the less sneed to me.

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Speaker 1: He's probably just walking around topless with like a big

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Speaker 1: glass of wine NonStop because he's wanting if all those

655
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Speaker 1: things happen. He's just essentially changed the NFC went on

656
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Speaker 1: top of it that in this copycat league, a bunch

657
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Speaker 1: of teams like maybe say the Cleveland Browns and everybody

658
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Speaker 1: else says we're going to do the f all them

659
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Speaker 1: pis situation, and they're not as good they're and their

660
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: roster isn't as already set up for that to work,

661
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: and you're gonna attempt it and you are gonna, you know,

662
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Speaker 1: screw it all up. So what what they want to do?

663
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Speaker 1: Like the their first copycat thing that everybody had from

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Speaker 1: the Rams is everybody wants their own Sean McVeigh. And

665
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Speaker 1: now everybody wants to do what less Sneed is doing,

666
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: and nobody's going to either be as good at it

667
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: or be as set up to do it, and somebody

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Speaker 1: might that all m pics and it's just like, actually

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Speaker 1: you needed all that. Yeah, It's like we spent half

670
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Speaker 1: a decade calling ourselves like analytical geniuses and you're going

671
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Speaker 1: to take that approach, then we just throw it into

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Speaker 1: the blender and start over and copy what the Rams

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Speaker 1: are doing. Rich Eyes, and you've said it all. You

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Speaker 1: could watch Rich on NFL Network obviously draft the Yes

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Speaker 1: trastfer Rich unbelievable. Also on Peacock TV, The Rich Eyes

676
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Speaker 1: and Show Monday to Friday, twelve to three pm Eastern.

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00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: Also on Serious XM that's channel five. And uh, don't

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Speaker 1: bring up Mayak too much next to Jeremiah, it's just

679
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: like he's feeling and talk with each other. Yeah, they

680
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: talk a lot. But also Jeremiah, don't don't ruin them.

681
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Speaker 1: Is the wholesome assassin. People think that like he wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to handle Mayac. Maybe step around, but he

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Speaker 1: wholesome assassin. Yeah, okay, he'll cut you. It might be

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Speaker 1: my fantasy team name Rich. Thank you very much anytime.

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Speaker 1: You got it. All right, there goes Rich. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be right back with some

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Speaker 1: more news. All right, welcome back. By the way, Steve

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00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: come general manager of the Cardinals, told reporters today there

689
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Speaker 1: was quote zero chance Kyler Murray gets traded. We're here

690
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Speaker 1: in a lot of that. You know, a J. Brown,

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00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: for instance, the Titans wide receiver. We heard um general

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Speaker 1: manager John Robinson shoot down trade rumors. He said, I

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Speaker 1: do not foresee us trading a J. Brown, which is

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Speaker 1: a little different than zero percent chance. But let's say

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Speaker 1: and then you have the head head coach Mike Rabel

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Speaker 1: say when A. J. Brown hits the trade block, I

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00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: will not be head coach of the Titans. And yet Mark,

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00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: and yet there's still percolation around Brown and you, and

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00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: you see it on his Twitter feed where all the

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00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: saga around him and his future uh is leading to

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00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: certain tweets, tweets like they switch up on you quick?

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00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: Who is you? Him? But who's they? He is annoyed

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Speaker 1: at a lot of people. I think because decoded for us,

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Speaker 1: Mark I he he had a previous tweet about I

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Speaker 1: am a diva and a bad teammate. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: l o, l okay, do what you have to do then,

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Speaker 1: and so so will I. I I don't think it's the

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Speaker 1: Titans necessarily. I don't because they seem as committed as

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Speaker 1: anyone here to pay him. So who is it? Then?

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Speaker 1: I think it's just perception of them people attacking him,

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Speaker 1: I really do. I don't think it could be living

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Speaker 1: in his mentions, which is always not a great idea.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like when Mike Rabel came out as

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Speaker 1: strong as he he's the centerpiece of their offense of

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Speaker 1: all these discontented individuals and half of them have just

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Speaker 1: gotten paid. I mean, you know, if you're I just

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Speaker 1: think he's The Titans are gonna stick with him. He

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Speaker 1: is a He's one of these guys that has a

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Speaker 1: reason to be annoyed with his output. First, where he

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Speaker 1: is If you look at the over the cap wide

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Speaker 1: receiver salaries, he sits right below Dwayne Eskridge Terrace Marshall Jr.

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Speaker 1: In two two at Well that's just yeah, because he's

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Speaker 1: the next year after. But it's like he's on his roki.

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Speaker 1: This constant situation is deepo though, right, and these have

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: been happy a long time. It's not like a new

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00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: thing that players get contracts early. If anything was happening

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Speaker 1: so much they changed the rules. Rob Gronkowski and Aaron

728
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Speaker 1: Hernandez got long term contracts after two years of their career,

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Speaker 1: which ended up being uh one of the most player

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Speaker 1: friendly contracts in history and one of the most horrific

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Speaker 1: contracts in history. And they changed the rules partly because

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00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots are resigning guys so quickly, so that stuff happens.

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Speaker 1: But like it's a story grave Digger who is part

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Speaker 1: of this Titans fan mafia which is now starting to

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Speaker 1: take maybe somebody in a like Titans. Titans fans are

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Speaker 1: so insistent that this isn't a story. They're like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: it's the media, it's a story. This is ridiculous, it's

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Speaker 1: not a story. Is not being traded, like how dare

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Speaker 1: you do this? And it's like you're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: about looking at it too, and then and then there's

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Speaker 1: no chance, there's no chance, like how dare they? The

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00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: Titans said they're not gonna trade? How dare they? And

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so let's talk about who's making a story.

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00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Who's making a story? A J. Brown is making it

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Speaker 1: a story. He's the story like it's his agent, it's

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Speaker 1: his agent who starts it. But it's it's from them,

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00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: so it really it bothers me that then, like fans

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Speaker 1: is like, oh how could they? How could they say this?

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00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: There's nothing the story? And then A J. Brown sends

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Speaker 1: out tweets. He sends out these tweets. He's the one

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: putting it out there. He's the one that wants the money.

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00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: It is a story because it's a story because people

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Speaker 1: talk about it, and that makes a story because it's

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00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: a story, like it didn't come out of nowhere. Who

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00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: made a story his agent did as a strategy Wilson did.

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00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: The Seahawks fans hated the media and they blamed everyone

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00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: until the moment that Russell Wilson was traded. And you

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00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: know want to know why, It's because because he wanted

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Speaker 1: to be the whole time. And maybe A J. Brown

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Speaker 1: wants to or not, but either way, he wants to

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Speaker 1: get paid. And they're the ones who started said blame

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Speaker 1: everyone else about it. But you talked about his tweet

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00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: and there is an interesting thing here because A J.

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Speaker 1: Brown removed the word Tennessee from his Titans bios, so

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00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: we'll have to freak that. And he had a tweet

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00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: up a year ago. I think this was about like

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00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: playing with DK Metcalf or something, and it said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a package deal L O L. I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to be a Titan for life. He deleted that tweet

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Speaker 1: the other day. But here's the difference. I don't think

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00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: it was a story two weeks ago when it was

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Speaker 1: like the Jets are sniffing around A J. Brown, Yes

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Speaker 1: it was. That doesn't come from nowhere, It comes from

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Speaker 1: his agent starting to put that stuff. I think it

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00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: really became a story when the Titans voluntary workout started

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Speaker 1: and A J. Brown was reportedly not there because he

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00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: wants a new contract. But he wanted the new contract

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Speaker 1: weeks ago. These stories don't come out of nowhere. They're

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Speaker 1: they're putting it into the media year. That's what I'm

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00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: telling you, coming out of nowhere. I think this is

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00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: about speeding up the process of getting paid, not late summer,

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00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: not in the middle of next season, but now for

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00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: two years from now. I don't think he's like like

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00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: dying to get out of Tennessee. He just wants Tennessee

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00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: to pay him absolutely. But they've already come out and

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00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: said they want to do that, and I think that's

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00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: going to happen. I think Russini had a report that

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00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: they are working on an extension already. John Robinson talked

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00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: about it, Rays talked about it. So like, in my estimation,

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00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: A J. Brown will sign a contract extension with the Titans.

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00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of when. And the thing that

792
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Titans fans keep getting pissed about is the trade aspect

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00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: of it. Like PF accounts tweeting like imagine this forty

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Speaker 1: Niners offensive. A J. Brown and Deebo Samuel are traded

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Speaker 1: for each other, which is like one of the dumbest

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00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: things I've ever heard in my life. But um, yeah,

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00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: don't you think that's possible. My bigger thing, he wants

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Speaker 1: play in California. You know, it's like these things don't

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Speaker 1: happen organically, and I think there was this feeling that

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Speaker 1: somehow the media is jinning this up and creating like, yes,

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Speaker 1: now you know he wants a new contract. He wanted

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00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: that weeks ago, and he's in his agent is talking

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00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: to reporters who start putting these things out there because

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00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: people talk and that's and that's where it comes from.

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Speaker 1: And he probably doesn't care if he leaves Tennessee if

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Speaker 1: they're not going to pay him the number that he wants.

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Speaker 1: I think they will to ultimately, So I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's like a huge deal, but it's like everyone getting

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00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: so mad at But one thing I see it differently

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Speaker 1: than the Russell Wilson saga, who I do think Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson's relationship with the organization came to an end A J.

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00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: Brown and the Titans. I don't get that vibe at all.

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Speaker 1: They want him, he wants money. He wants and he wants.

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Speaker 1: And it used to be even as recently as a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, if you were a superstar that

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00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: came out of the outside the first round, that you

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Speaker 1: had to eat a little poop and wait your turn

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Speaker 1: to get paid. Now the game's changing a little bit,

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Speaker 1: guys this year. The only difference is that this is

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Speaker 1: coming up before the draft and they're trying to use

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Speaker 1: their leverage that way to maybe inspire other teams to

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Speaker 1: offer picks. But a third year receiver like a J.

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00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: Brown and Deebo, Samuel uh and Terry McLaurin, we're asking

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00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: for more money, getting more money and holding out going

825
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: into their fourth year for the last two decades like that,

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Speaker 1: that that's pretty normal. It's more that they're just kind

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Speaker 1: of taking control of this process so early, well, with

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Speaker 1: April essentially doing it now a instead of July instead

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Speaker 1: of July. Why are we talking about because because they're

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Speaker 1: trying to see if the draft can bump that number

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Speaker 1: up or create something like they're seeing if the draft

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Speaker 1: is kind of a deadline leverage point that maybe will

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Speaker 1: help them out. All right, I think now slightly nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. Makes sense if this

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Speaker 1: all ends with A J. Brown getting an extension fourteen

836
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: days earlier, they're gonna be super annoyed that we're talking

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Speaker 1: about it. So passionate, probably like he's probably gonna hold

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Speaker 1: out through all the summer activities, and then training camp

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00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: is gonna get here, and it's like day one of

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Speaker 1: training camp, where's a J. Brown? And then day two

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00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: a J. Brown science huge extension. With saying that story

842
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: roughly seven and twelve times, I'm really rooting for a

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00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: deebo versus a J. Brown or around trade though, just

844
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: so he can replay that. I feel like, because they

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00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: never know the Titans go down a certain path um

846
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: of dysfunction, we could get Graver to just lose it

847
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: on the podcast because he's so passionate. So I'm rooting

848
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: for chaos. That's what I'm rooting for. Sure, there is something.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a ton of cap space. They're not

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Speaker 1: maybe the most cash rich team in the league in

851
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: terms of guaranteed money want to put all you know,

852
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: there's something. They'll come over to my side. They also

853
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 1: cut Julio Jones with a post June one designation, which

854
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: means they get nine point five million dollars in cap

855
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: space back but not until June, so they can't. I mean,

856
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: I feel good about where this has had it, Deebo.

857
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I feel a little differently the a j We'll see,

858
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: all right, Ben McAdoo, he's a rock star. You remember

859
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: that Jay Glazer report. Matt Rule's job depends up hiring

860
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: a rock star offensive coordinator. That became Ben McAdoo, who

861
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: was something of over look. He kind of looks feel like, well,

862
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: let's get one step at the time here. Let's start

863
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: with Ben McAdoo offensive coordinator the Panthers QB needy Panthers.

864
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: It seems uh too many, um, most, if not all.

865
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: Ben McDow is up there on the podium talking about

866
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and he has a little slip up. We're

867
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: gonna play you at the beginning and then a little

868
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: later in the press, Sam's our starting quarterback. Yes, you know,

869
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: one of the things I've been working on is being

870
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: better talking to you people, So you know, announcing the

871
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: starting quarterback here, I just put my foot in the mouth.

872
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: So that wasn't something I should have said. I don't

873
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: actually don't think it matters that much because technically is

874
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback he's the incumbent. He was the starter

875
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: last year. UH and Hammer p J. Walker. You could like,

876
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: if you want to read into it, go ahead and

877
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: read into it that that meant that means they're not

878
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback next week. I don't. I'm not looking

879
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: it down that way. I'm more plugged in on I

880
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: think Ben finally found a look that works from him

881
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: with the lettuce right up top, the part down the middle.

882
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: He likes it long. There's nothing wrong with liking it

883
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: long and uh. I think he's found a look that

884
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: much better than the fluff look like the Bieber two

885
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: through many phases that were unacceptable, but and the and

886
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: the slick back look the greaser looked that wasn't for him.

887
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: But I think he's found something right now with the uh,

888
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: the center part. I don't buy the idea that he's

889
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: a rock star. I mean, I also think that if

890
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: you go through the next season's voyage with Sam Donald

891
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: as you're plugged in starter, you're probably not going to

892
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: be working anywhere a year from now if you're an

893
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. So if they if that is their plan,

894
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: which it is not at all, they've got to come

895
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: up with something else. Um, it's utter. It's like nothing

896
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: other than doom, no matter how nice his hair looks

897
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: and how shiny his hair look. I assumed it meant nothing,

898
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: like you Dan that it was like a random slip,

899
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: like of course he's just started. But him actually apologizing

900
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: for it in such a way made me wonder maybe

901
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: that maybe there was something to it, because like, why

902
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: would he be apologizing if it meant nothing. Maybe they

903
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: are are entering this month at least with the possibility

904
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald might be their starter, because I guess

905
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: how could they not. You know, they don't know if

906
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: they get if they get a rookie, is he gonna

907
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: be a bomb or not? You don't really know until

908
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: you see it. And uh, they don't know if they're

909
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: gonna have Baker Mayfield or not. At this point, do

910
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: you think um Rich is kind of hit on it?

911
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 1: And I gotta vibe maybe the fact that so far

912
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: is ripping up or pulling up there artificial turf and

913
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: he has to do the run Rich run at the

914
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. I wonder if he was like behind the scenes,

915
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: really mad about that because he had the turf at

916
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: an Indy that was great. He wants to run a

917
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: sub six. I wonder it's for a good cause, but

918
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that he may not have other feelings

919
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: about how the process is played out. It could be agitated.

920
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over there today and just see, like, like,

921
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: do you think we could just get in because if

922
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: they're getting rid of that turf, yeah, that would be great.

923
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Like Ellis, my daughter is a huge dramas fans a

924
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: little turf souvenir. I don't know, maybe just go in

925
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: there and steal some turf out of that. Get in there.

926
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: It's right. I think security there. I don't think you're

927
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: getting into into the facility. Finally, in the news, this

928
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: is UM. We had Josh Norris from the Fantasy Underdog

929
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: Realm on our show sixteen out of thirty two Underdog Fantasy.

930
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: You did struggle with that a few times because I

931
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: think the website was like Underdog Network. But I think

932
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: it's just Underdog Underdog Fantasy that you know where to

933
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: find Josh Norris. After you go sixteen for thirty two,

934
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: you'll find Josh Norris. Anyway. Bud Light a partner here

935
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: with the NFL, and the draft is off offering fifteen

936
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: million if you can correctly predict all thirty two round

937
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: selections ahead of this year's NFL Draft, which is ludicrous

938
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: quite frankly. So I thought what we could do to

939
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: kind of raise our profile a little bit, and knowing

940
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: that no one would ever be able to do that

941
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: because Josh basically topped the best you could do is

942
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: about is half that. I don't think you could do

943
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: much better than half. Ricky, I want you to send

944
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: this out to all major media outlets. Actually, can I

945
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: get the trumpets? Give me the eyes and trumpets. The

946
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast will give you one and fifteen

947
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: million dollars if you go thirty two for thirty two.

948
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: Just send your draft selections to the A T N

949
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: Podcast at gmail dot com. I mean we have it

950
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: in escrow, so this is in Well, we'll even throw

951
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: in an NFL podcast, uh hoodie. I think there's a

952
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: couple in a box upstairs. And we used to have

953
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: with back in the lasid era. We had a lot

954
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: of glossies eight by tens that we would sign for

955
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: and then Ricky took over and I think she burned

956
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: all of them. If we could track down one of

957
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: the old lesson eight by tens, will sign that as

958
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: well with the maybe she took them with hers. We

959
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: also said once a two thousand and six and this

960
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: was long after two thousand and six, A two thousand

961
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: and six Tennessee Titans media guide. Do you remember the

962
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: puzzle Vince Young, Pacman Jones. So we all signed that

963
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: puzzle to send to the winner of the Colleen theme

964
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: song puzzle. And then the you know listener could put

965
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: the puzzle together and it would be all our signatures,

966
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: and I put it in a box to send a

967
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: fed X. And then the pandemic happened, and so it

968
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: was two years and now I don't know where that

969
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: puzzle is. It's like a whole. It's like could be

970
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: in cover, could be gone. Oh you never actually sent

971
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: it out. No, we got locked at home for it.

972
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: So don't hold your breath about the hundred and fifteen

973
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: if you hit thirty two of thirty two. But just no.

974
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: But light ain't got nothing on us. That's what's happening

975
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: in the news. We got to talk some more draft.

976
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: The draft is one week from today's the first round.

977
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Can you believe that we're gonna be annoying now? Are you?

978
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: That was previous me wait about something. We're gonna be

979
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: at the draft for the first time since I believe

980
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: the old New York days. Well, Dan and I went

981
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: to the Johnny Man's Eld. Yeah, you guys went in

982
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland and West and I were back in the studio.

983
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: That was Uh no, it was in New York Radio City.

984
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: You you departed after sitting in those small Radio City

985
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: seats with a back injury, neck injury that I had

986
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: for about two years. Uh, pending litigation perhaps with Mattison

987
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Square Garden and Radio City Music Hall. Yes, no, go ahead, no,

988
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're gonna be at the draft in Vegas.

989
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a show Draft night backstage, as I

990
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: understand at where's the draft Allegiance Stadium or in the

991
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: surrounding territories. No, that theagio. It's it's topless, it's close.

992
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: It's at some right there they're coming through, but it's

993
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: not like inside the Bellagio or any thing. Yeah, it

994
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: looks for this. So we're gonna be there on Thursday

995
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: night for the first round. Well, maybe even talk to

996
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: some first round picks. Uh Mark was hoping we get

997
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: some offensive lineman, some d tackles, some run stuffers. So yeah, yeah,

998
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: so that's exciting. And before that, let's have a conversation.

999
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the draft and the

1000
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: strategies where teams are expected to go, the speculation, it's

1001
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: now reached a fever pitch, as it always does by

1002
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: this time of the NFL calendar. And yet sometimes that

1003
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: feeling that people have is a bad feeling for a team.

1004
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: So this segment it's called no no, no, no no

1005
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: no no no no no, no, no no, don't do that.

1006
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: That's mine. Everyone's gonna do one, including Greg Our online reading. Yeah,

1007
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think performative Chi introduced the idea. Yeah,

1008
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: I think that's good. Uh, show a little improv and

1009
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: that's behind the glass too. I want to get something.

1010
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: I gotta get Christie Stapleton, get her on the mic

1011
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: for that, uh for for mine. But so let's go around,

1012
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: and this is kind of one last last chance at

1013
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: advice for teams that might be leaning a certain way,

1014
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: in a way that would end and doom. Markt is

1015
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: going I have seen all the mock drafts um and

1016
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: the vast majority tell us that Dan Campbell and the

1017
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions are going to go defense and let's just

1018
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: keep u you know, adding big thick men to the

1019
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: both lines on the ball. And I'm telling us, well,

1020
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean they would be at various times not on

1021
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: the field. I want the Lions, who are They're halfway there?

1022
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: Police stop there, halfway there being a super interesting team.

1023
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: Half they got it. I thought that they were the

1024
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: most fascinating sucky team I've seen in years. A season

1025
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: to go. Here's what I'm saying to the Detroit Lions.

1026
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: Do not pass on the idea of just rolling the

1027
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: dice and drafting Malik Willis. Just do it. I don't

1028
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: care about Jared Goff. I don't care about drafting some

1029
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: sort of edge rush. Say your thing is that that, Yes,

1030
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: don't pass this is your idea. No, no, no, no, no,

1031
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: do not do that. On passing on Malik Willis the

1032
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: old double negatives. Well, this is this is connected to

1033
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: yours conversation defensive tackle Erica tampose to give me um

1034
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 1: a line read you're going to tee it up. You

1035
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: want me to just do it? Okay, No, no, no,

1036
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: don't do that. I say drafting Malik Willis. That was

1037
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: my first one. So we are on opposite ends of

1038
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: the eye, don't draft because we have so much we

1039
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: have so much institutional knowledge potentially uh that this is

1040
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: not a quarterback class and that that reeks to me

1041
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: of a team with a need reaching at number two

1042
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: when I if i'm the lines, my move would be

1043
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: to try to get the hell out of the number

1044
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: two pick if you could trade back, and if not,

1045
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: your roster is not halfway there. Maybe they're halfway to

1046
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: being interesting, but they are half. They are less than half.

1047
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: They were like a tenth of the way they're to

1048
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: being a Super Bowl contender. Just go get the best

1049
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: player on the board. Jared Goff is a perfectly respectable

1050
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: bridge quarterback. You're not contending this year anyway, so why

1051
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: not stick with Goff who's under contract anyway, add more

1052
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: players to the draft, and then next year perhaps you

1053
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: go get that quarterback either through the draft or free agency,

1054
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: a guy that you really love. Now, maybe they love

1055
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Malik Wilson. Maybe that is that is part of this conversation.

1056
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Then sure, if you really are in love, but be

1057
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: careful to talk yourself into it because you need a quarterback.

1058
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: They don't like him and they're not going to do that.

1059
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: But the idea that we all know that Malik Willis

1060
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: is just gonna flat line or be a glass off

1061
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: everything that we've heard about his college career and everything

1062
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: in draft with upside though the ceiling. Sure. I don't

1063
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: like a team in year three of a regime next

1064
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: offseason they still don't know who their quarterback is, right,

1065
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: It's like that's that bridge is getting long. If you

1066
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: have goff and nothing else this year, I just would say,

1067
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: you meet in the middle. I don't think there's much

1068
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: of a chance. We we never know going into it

1069
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: just about anything. But I just don't get you don't

1070
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: get the censor's much of a chance Malik Willis could

1071
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: go number two. What about what you could imagine is

1072
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: them getting Aidan Hutchinson, the local guy at number two,

1073
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: because Trayvon Walker goes number one, beautiful, And then you

1074
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 1: use all these picks you got. They have thirty two

1075
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: and thirty four, they've got sixty six, they have ninety seven,

1076
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: which is compensatory two using some of those picks to

1077
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: move up at the very least the head of Pittsburgh

1078
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: who's at money, and you get Malik Willis in the

1079
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: middle of the first round. And I foresee I see

1080
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: that as a very that do it, that marries our ideas,

1081
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: but that that also presumes that you can get him

1082
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: in the middle of the first round. I think that's risky.

1083
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got the Carolina You're sitting there. Other

1084
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: teams could trade up. He's obviously not going number one

1085
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: unless the Jaggers trade out of pick. Their phone is

1086
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: not ringing according to rap sheet. So yes, that's the

1087
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: only scenario where you definitely get your guy. But I

1088
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: would just my feeling would be in that building. They

1089
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: need to really love him otherwise, which we don't know. Otherwise,

1090
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: go get their defense needs plenty of help. Go build

1091
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: up the defense. Go get an edge rusher, which are

1092
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: invaluable in our league, even if that's not a home

1093
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: run either. I get that. But you take a quarterback

1094
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: number two, that's a two to three year investment. Um,

1095
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: you better be sure, right, And I think that's why

1096
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense at too. But I think it's

1097
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: a better spot than people think because I think the

1098
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: coaching staff is good. I think the offensive line is

1099
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: quite good. Uh So there are things to like about

1100
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: the Lions, especially if if you're not put into that

1101
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: position you want to play we have jump jumping out

1102
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: of this real quick spinning back to the Kyler Murray situation.

1103
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: Some developing news here. Kyler Murray tweet in response to

1104
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson comments, which were you know they Patrick Peterson,

1105
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: former Cardinals mainstay, said this week he doesn't see Kyler's

1106
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: long term home Arizona. Kyler tweets, I want to win

1107
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: super Bowls with the Cardinals. Comma a zs home. Okay, Okay,

1108
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: that's pretty strong, stepping off the ledge. That's pretty strong.

1109
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I kind of don't care what he says at all

1110
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: at this point, but all right, pretty strong. That wasn't

1111
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: that he didn't have to send that out. That was

1112
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: that's an olive branch to the Cardinal. Essentially, everything that

1113
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: players have done on social media this offseason did not

1114
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: have to be sent out. What you could say about

1115
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: social media? And jem I absolutely do what six Twitter.

1116
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Who knew that such a brave guy was gonna step

1117
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: forward during this podcast that Mark would just eight social media.

1118
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: I think it's bad for society. I don't need that

1119
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: my Space comment. Al right, back to the back to

1120
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: the conversation at hand. Uh, the no, no, no, you

1121
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: know you can't it's it is hard to get space

1122
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: to be the brave one on this show. So I

1123
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: like that. Oh the slings and arrows, Greg, you're up. Um,

1124
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned Johnny Manzel earlier. That was good. You mentioned

1125
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel earlier. Um, And there's a quarterback in this

1126
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: draft that reminds me just a little bit of Johnny

1127
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: Manz at least at least in terms of like some

1128
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: of the strengths and weaknesses. And it also reminds me

1129
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of, uh, the current Brown's quarterback who's

1130
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: not really the Browns quarterback, Baker Mayfield. And it's a

1131
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: player who's being mocked a lot to the Carolina Panthers

1132
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: at number six overall. Uh quite old prospect by the

1133
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: name of Kenny Pickett, And just imagining the Panthers drafting

1134
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett in that spot just makes me think, like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1135
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But uh, Kenny Pickett seems like

1136
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: he's a little bit of the worst of all worlds

1137
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: in terms of a guy you would take that early.

1138
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Carolina is definitely a worst of all worlds. I think

1139
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 1: for a player arriving number one, your coach could be

1140
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: on the way out, similar to Justin Field's uh last

1141
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: year arriving to Chicago and kind of wasting a year

1142
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: with the coaching staff that's about to leave number two

1143
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible offensive line, and that that's that's the

1144
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: most important part of the equation, that they haven't really

1145
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: fixed this offseason and they could help fix with the

1146
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: number six overall pick or you move back and you

1147
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: get some picks. Pick it is talked up as accurate

1148
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: and any he seems to be and like Johnny Manzel

1149
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: could could throw it pretty accurately when when he saw it,

1150
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield can throw it accurately when he saw it,

1151
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: But pick it to me doesn't seem like he has

1152
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: like the pocket feel and he holds onto the ball forever.

1153
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: His time to throw, according to PFF, is over three seconds,

1154
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: like one of the highest in college football over the

1155
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: last three years in a row. Like that's just part

1156
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: of who he is. So he's like always trying to

1157
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: make a play. And that reminds me of Baker, and

1158
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: it reminds me of Johnny Manzel. These guys who maybe

1159
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: don't progress in terms of like great quarterback skills, in

1160
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: terms of going one to two to three quickly that

1161
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: it takes forever and you go just try to make

1162
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: a play outside of the pocket. That's sort of who

1163
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: Kenny pick It is. And that worked when you're like

1164
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: a twenty three year old fifty fifth year senior who

1165
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: didn't really do much until your fifth year. But I

1166
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: think could be really troubling at the NFL level unless

1167
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: you have a lot of support around you, and Carolina

1168
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: does not offer a lot of support. Here's my question then,

1169
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: because al right, that all makes sense for the Panthers,

1170
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: it's there overshooting with that quarterback in that spot. Are

1171
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: we suddenly okay with the idea of Pittsburgh taking the

1172
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: player you just described fourteen spots later? Does it really matter?

1173
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: Why should anyone cling to Kenny Pickett as their quarterback

1174
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: of the future. Different people like different things, and in

1175
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: some like our guy Daniel Jeremiah, who knows a lot

1176
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: more about this process, thinks he's the best quarterback in

1177
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: this draft. And but then but then so then then

1178
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: if that's the case, let's say he is. Let's say

1179
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: Daniel je Jeremiah's right, w if you're the Panthers, why

1180
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you get's like I guess it just seems like

1181
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: we're talking about a player who has value suddenly an

1182
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,959
Speaker 1: hour and a half later in the draft process. Because

1183
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: we're fourteen picks down. It wouldn't make sense for the

1184
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: Steelers to take them either for for what it's worth,

1185
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: and it's very little like I think Malik Willis makes

1186
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot more sense to them, and maybe even Desmond Ritter.

1187
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: But Pickett seems like a guy who's gonna try to

1188
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: find out that his athleticism that worked in college isn't

1189
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: gonna be as special. And it's kind of like all

1190
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. It's a it's a boring topic at this point,

1191
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: but like everyone's trying to convince themselves into any of

1192
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: these guys, so probably none of them makes sense. I

1193
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: think Steelers are in a slightly different spot where you

1194
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: take a guy at twenty uh and whoever it is,

1195
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: maybe you're not forced to play them right away that

1196
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: you'll just eat Trabisky for a year and you're not

1197
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: that worried and I trust them to develop in a

1198
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: way that that other It's like, but none of these

1199
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: guys would be going that high a year ago. I

1200
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear Malik Willis At least I think

1201
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: people see that there's like a chance. You can see it.

1202
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: You see those Josh Allen throws, you see one of

1203
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: the best to the side of the other guys. Doesn't

1204
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: seem like it's there. If you're upside, is Baker Mayfield?

1205
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: Just go get Baker Mayfield? Like he's gonna be way

1206
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: better right now than than a Kenny Picket. Is I

1207
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: just I'm feeling cynical because like the pre draft quarterback

1208
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: talk is like correct about twelve percent of the time.

1209
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: It seems like so it's like, who really what? These

1210
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: guys can't really play more developing news in a big

1211
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: picture more more of these guys are gonna fail than

1212
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: the right even in Baker's class, that was the case

1213
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: one of the first classes. Kyler Murray is now replied

1214
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: to a rap sheet tweet. Rap Sheet tweeted, could Cardinals

1215
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: QB Kyler Murray be traded? G M Steve Kim during

1216
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: his pre draft press conference, Zero chance. As we talked

1217
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: about earlier, Kyler's reply, the one hundred emoji, the one

1218
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: red and two underlines, this is exciting to go. He's

1219
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: very definitely got a deal done today then, right, But

1220
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: he's I get I just feel like he's a little clumsy,

1221
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: and I think he's trying to, you know, backpedal little

1222
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: and remake the image of what he knows something and

1223
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: is like feeling confident. Now, yeah, well, to Mark's point,

1224
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: then just and do the deal. Like they don't know anything.

1225
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: They're just like trying to quiet up all down, quiet

1226
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: at all down, like pr yse which is great. Maybe

1227
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: they maybe they've made some progress in terms of a contract. Man.

1228
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: The sex is going, so well, let's just keep rolling

1229
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: straight through. No breaks now, no, no, don't do that,

1230
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: all right, Ricky, we'll take a break. We'll be right back,

1231
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: all right. So you may recall uh Bilize and girls

1232
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: early in the draft process, when everybody was hot hot,

1233
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: hot hot on Kyle Hamilton's Yes, he's a safety, which

1234
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: is not a premier position whatever that means, but he

1235
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: might be the best player in this draft. And then

1236
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: I think it was his pro day or combine he

1237
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: ran a non impressive forty both and now you're seeing

1238
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: like Josh Norris's mock, he's eighteen to the Eagles. And

1239
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: to that, I'll say, Randy Chavez, no, no, no, no, no,

1240
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: don't do that No, there's a little panic in the

1241
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: voice there. I like that. That's to all the gm

1242
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: s that are saying we'll pass on this guy, let

1243
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: him fall deep into the first round. What is This

1244
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: is what I do, and I am the furthest thing

1245
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: from a college expert, but I will say this. You

1246
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: know from years and years and years of following the

1247
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: sport that the guys who know they're the Bucky brooks

1248
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: Is of the world. As an example, it's like you

1249
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: can get all hot and bothered about the combine and

1250
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: Pro days and all this, but the best way to

1251
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: find out if a guy can play is watch the tape.

1252
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: And this guy, uh, Kyle Hamilton and Notre Dame was

1253
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: a baller. And yet this happens every year when the

1254
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: guy runs up Port forty and he starts tumbling down

1255
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: the board. Now these are mock draft boards. We'll see

1256
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: if NFL teams were turned off the way mock drafters

1257
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: who are plugged in and asking questions have surmised this.

1258
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: But if Kyle Hamilton's ends up being an All Pro

1259
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: Star at safety, teams are gonna be kicking themselves because

1260
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 1: he didn't unfast in March. Maybe it was never that

1261
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: high in the first place because he's a safety, and

1262
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: teams when it comes down to it, just like taking

1263
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: either receivers or big, big guys, you know, And that's

1264
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 1: what the whole mocks like rising falling. It's become almost

1265
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: cliche now that it's it's less rising falling and more

1266
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: just like the pros, the coaches enter the process, the gms,

1267
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: we actually get a feel of what they are actually thinking.

1268
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: And maybe Kyle Hamilton' was never there, but I'm with you,

1269
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: it's like overthinking in a draft where it seems like

1270
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: there's no sure fire home runs. Why not take the

1271
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: guy that has the best chance to be in all

1272
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: pro that like a double Who cares? If it's positional

1273
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: value like that? That part doesn't make a lot of

1274
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: sense to me. It's there aren't a lot of players

1275
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 1: that started out in most mocks, you know, unanimously top

1276
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: five and viewed as sort of a rock solid like hit,

1277
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: and then they tumbled the way they did, and it's

1278
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: it's it says a lot about the position. But I

1279
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: think maybe a team will surprise us and go a

1280
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 1: little earlier with him. All right, anybody else got one?

1281
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: I got too many? Uh? I guess just since we

1282
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: should do it. I feel like we haven't had like

1283
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: almost the cliche conversation um the show. I know, just

1284
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: but it's big. It's the number one overall draft pick,

1285
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: and like sometimes the conventional wisdom take I think is right,

1286
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: and I think when it's Trent Balky making the decision

1287
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville, it's like, Hey, Jaguars, how about don't take

1288
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: the guy number one overall who has less production than

1289
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: any like top five pass rusher in the history of

1290
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 1: the NFL, Like, how about let's not do that. No no, no, no,

1291
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: no no no no, no no, don't do it. Do

1292
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: you trust them to send the condescension? It's just like,

1293
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: let's let's not say, oh is the Georgia scheme and

1294
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: he's good at run defense. It's like and and all

1295
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: that's true. I'm sure like it makes sense that some

1296
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: physical Travon Walker. Yeah, I'm sure all that. All that

1297
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: makes sense, that he's got these tools that are crazy.

1298
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: He's a physical, like a total freak, and that probably

1299
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: means he's gonna be a halfway decent pro um. But

1300
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: at no point has he ever been a great pass rusher.

1301
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: Let's not take him number one over who's someone else

1302
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: who's taking who's the equivalent? Who is there an NFL

1303
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: equivalent in recent years that similarly didn't Hunter but he

1304
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,679
Speaker 1: got taken in the third round, or or like Justin

1305
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 1: Herbert maybe wasn't off the map. A totally different vibe.

1306
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 1: But people in terms of what the kind of player

1307
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: I think Trayvon Walker can and maybe will be would

1308
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: be more like Clowney who did go one overall. But

1309
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 1: Clowney was an incredibly productive college player. Like he's more strong,

1310
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna be stronger and more athletic than he

1311
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: is like a pure pass rusher. But I don't know.

1312
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: I just don't decisions. He's the opposite. What made Clowney

1313
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: such an exciting prospect was, of course the famous hit

1314
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: on the running back in the backfield, Like he was,

1315
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: he was this guy that's seen people are talking about,

1316
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: like LT because he had excelled so much in college

1317
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 1: player of the area. Traylon Walker for the Jets, for instance,

1318
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: he could fall to them at four and I could

1319
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 1: see them getting sucked in and taking him, And I

1320
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: just don't know how I would feel. For this very reason.

1321
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: It it spooks me a little bit for a guy

1322
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 1: not to be a college star to expect him to

1323
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: be a professor. I'd almost trust the jets a little more,

1324
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: if only because Robert Sala's defense makes sense to me.

1325
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: They're a defensive scheme that takes big, strong guys that

1326
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: are maybe a little unrefined and tries to simplify and

1327
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: just says go and that's and that's what he could

1328
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: be really good at. I think just sort of like

1329
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: a bowling ball that messes a lot of things up.

1330
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't get a lot of sacks and that,

1331
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: and they could coach them up. I just sort of

1332
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: don't trust the Jaguars to take the like boom er

1333
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: Bus guy because everything they've done as a franchise for

1334
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: the last decade has been bust like. And that that

1335
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: that matters to me. Aidan Hutchinson, you know a lot

1336
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: of people mocking him still to the Jaguars, Malik Willis,

1337
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: maybe the Lions. Yeah, maybe Trayvon Walker is up on

1338
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: the Jets. That's why everyone saying this first round there's

1339
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: not slam dunks in it. There's gonna be risk. That's

1340
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: why people are trying to get out of the first round.

1341
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: Teams are trying to get out. I mean the first

1342
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: ten picks, I should say in the first round. People

1343
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: are trying to deal out of that zone because his

1344
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: way too much risk involved with these picks. People get

1345
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: fired from missing on top ten picks badly. And this

1346
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: draft especially feels like Mark one, where you can get

1347
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 1: canned by taking the next Vernon Gholston for instance, I've

1348
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: got one for you, all right, Mark's all business today.

1349
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: I like the edged right now. Ever since I said brave,

1350
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: which wasn't like, I'm totally cherry at this point. It's

1351
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: just a silly, silly joke. There's a team that obviously

1352
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: is like a player awave they or maybe a player

1353
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: or two away from Super Bowl glory, and they should

1354
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: see themselves that way. Even though their general manager today

1355
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: said it's not super Bowl or bust nonsense, Yes it is.

1356
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: Everyone in Buffalo knows that it's Super Bowl or Bust.

1357
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: The piece I think they're missing is having Josh Allen

1358
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: have to be the centerpiece of the Russian attack. I

1359
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: know you have Devin Singletary. They tried to get j J. D.

1360
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: Mckissic that went south. He would have been a great

1361
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: situational player. For them. There is a player out there

1362
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: who is viewed as the unquestionable high volume runner who

1363
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: can score from anywhere on the field. He's a two

1364
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: time first team All American. He has the college production

1365
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about in every possible way. And what I

1366
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: don't want the Bills in this spot to do is

1367
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 1: to try to get too cute and outsmart all the

1368
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: mock drafters who have essentially mocked this player running back

1369
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: Breeese Hall from Iowa State to Buffalo. For them to say,

1370
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: if everyone says we're gonna do this, we're not going

1371
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: to do it. Hit it, Sean Kelly, No, no, no,

1372
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,759
Speaker 1: don't do that. Okay, let's try it a little differently,

1373
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: give me a second, just me, give me a second. Take.

1374
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: I like that, but let's just give it, give me

1375
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: a different flavor. No no, no, no, no, do not

1376
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: do that. Let's pretend you're very angry. No no, no,

1377
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: do not do that. All right, that's the vibe. So

1378
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: that was believable. That that was very much like Sean

1379
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: has has used those exact words in that same time

1380
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: to his mom when he told her to clean up

1381
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: his I was gonna say his college girlfriend when she

1382
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think long distance is gonna work.

1383
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 1: This is not experience. I love you and you always

1384
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: like give me one more Sean. I'll love you and

1385
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: nothing is going to ever change that. Like you've you'll

1386
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: always have a special place in my heart. But I

1387
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: just think this is the time where we need to

1388
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 1: go our separate ways. No no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1389
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: no no, you cannot do that. Well, let's not improvise,

1390
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: thank you. You gotta get a little flavor. So, but

1391
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: back so Mark yours, yours are bending my brain a

1392
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: little bit. So no, no, no, no, do not not

1393
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: not do that. It's yes, I would say that if

1394
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: if you want it not spun in a different way,

1395
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: or if you do it's do not listen to the

1396
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: mock draft. Do not do not ignore the mock drafters.

1397
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: Do not try to be mock drafters. Essentially, do what

1398
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: everyone thinks you're gonna do the worst. The worst thing

1399
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: about this is that I vaguely came up with the second.

1400
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: Yes it was, it was a winner. I'm just coming

1401
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: at it from a dial about this with Josh. This

1402
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: very situation right Breece Hall and the bills. It makes

1403
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: plenty of sense. This also comes from me suggesting that

1404
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: we've talked about that they, like if Christian McCaffrey were

1405
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 1: ever truly on the market, that the Bills doing that

1406
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: deal and getting that done would turn their offense into

1407
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: something psychotic. I think brees Haw and Kenny Walker seemed

1408
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: like guys if they were in a draft fifteen years ago,

1409
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: they potentially would be top ten picks, and they're like

1410
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: totally ignored. So that part of it I like. But

1411
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: then I also look at the Bills and I think,

1412
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: why did the Bills not win the Super Buss. It's

1413
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: because Sean McDermott's defense stunk and it's sort of got ignored.

1414
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 1: Had a good season, but they got lit up for

1415
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: five yards. They don't have a second outside cornerback right now.

1416
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: They have trade Avious White and really nothing now. So

1417
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: I'm almost certain they're going to take a cornerback in

1418
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: the first two rounds. I guess, you know, maybe they'll

1419
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: take a running back first and a quarterback second, or

1420
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: vice versus it man, they need help in the secondary.

1421
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 1: They did it on offensive. You guys did it, and

1422
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: you always you never want to risk getting stale and

1423
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: just resting on your Laurels on one side of the ball.

1424
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: But I feel like the offense is gonna put up points.

1425
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna score thirty. It's the defense. If they could

1426
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: add a couple more difference makers there, So hold on

1427
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: here that I'm going off with their actual actions. They

1428
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: thought they had Jad McKissick, who is a better player

1429
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 1: than I think most No, I think it makes sense,

1430
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: but that's like a third down back. I feel like

1431
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: you could get You could get Dalvin Cook's brotherhood, James Cook,

1432
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: who who looks awesome. I feel like people are under

1433
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: like overthinking him just because he didn't have crazy proaction.

1434
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: He looks exactly like Dalvin Cook. Just draft him earlier. Well,

1435
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: Azzi Conseco made it looked a lot like it. But

1436
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: he runs and catches the ball beautifully like and it'll

1437
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: be available maybe in the second round. Is all I

1438
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: mean more. I just address the position. But if they

1439
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 1: think he's special like the defense, yes, but how about

1440
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 1: add strength to strength? You know what? And we also

1441
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: trust them as team builders. Greg, I don't agree with it,

1442
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: but Greg had um their brain trust. Sean McDermott um

1443
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: and Company is number one in your GM Power rankings.

1444
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: That's right, you hurt. You got an earful from a

1445
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: certain high ranking figure within the RAMS. I mean that's

1446
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: for you to throw out there, but yeah, I think

1447
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: it just shows how important the GM rankings are. I

1448
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: mean they send shockwaves throughout the industry. Um Kevin Colbert

1449
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: was was very high. I'm going to wrap up with

1450
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: just one more quick one. And he was on our show.

1451
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: And the high ranking owner, by the way was stand Crunky,

1452
01:16:56,080 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: high ranking official and tight Um Kevin Colbert wants to

1453
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: leave the Steelers in great shape. We talked about that

1454
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: scenario earlier. Or maybe the Lions can can trade up

1455
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: ahead of Pittsburgh to go get Malik Willis and and

1456
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: I just think Kevin Colbert, if if you're thinking Malik Willis,

1457
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 1: and it really feels like Mike Tomlin would like that idea.

1458
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: And for my own enjoyment, who doesn't want to watch

1459
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: uh Trabisky for seventeen weeks and likes the idea of

1460
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: a future Steelers team with one of the best running

1461
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, which Malik Willis will be day

1462
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: one like Jalen Hurts, but more like somewhere between Jalen

1463
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: Hurts and Cam Newton as a runner and just crazy

1464
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: arm strength. Don't don't wait for wait, don't wait for

1465
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: Malik Willis, Like, don't do it. I think you're probably

1466
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to move up, whether it's to like twelve

1467
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 1: or something. It's not the Steeler way. They've never done it.

1468
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: They always just sit there. He famously sat there and

1469
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: waited for Ben to come to him. But I don't

1470
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: know if waiting for Malik Willis to come to you

1471
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: is gonna work. And when I when I think about this,

1472
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 1: this is what I think about, justin no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: don't do that, Like pretty good, all right, we got

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Speaker 1: Molik wills fever if he does all those things. If

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Speaker 1: he does all those things, then like two years from

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01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: now or people are going to be annoyed that Detroit

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 1: didn't take him, just saying that that's a fair point.

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01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: Like I just think, of course, but but that's a thing.

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01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: Like five minutes later week, Maleek Willis Is is someone

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01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,919
Speaker 1: someone that Steelers should trade up for and break their organisms.

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: That's like, like, if you're the Detroit Lions, you've been

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01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: You've been the most dull, observational team in the league

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 1: for years and years, and you're gonna roll out Jared

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01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: Goff again and then roll into years. You just said

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01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: they were really entertaining last year. Well, okay, so I

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01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: think they were spicy for a team that has the

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01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: second overall pick. I think even arrived product. Right, even

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01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: his biggest fans, Malikilis probably recognize what is it? Maybe

1489
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: like a forty percent chance that he becomes a hit.

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01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 1: But that's kind of true. I guess what you're saying,

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01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: Mark of any for you said at first round unless

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01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: snea do we love thought Jared Goff would be So

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01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: I again, like the human element to this is um toxic, right.

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: I think that draft is a good reminder I think

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01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 1: there it was very typical of how first round quarterbacks go.

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: Two were total hits, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson who

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: both fell too far. Uh. One was Baker, who I

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01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: think's in the middle, like he's a starting quarterback. You're

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01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: not in love that he was your number one overall pick,

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01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: but he wasn't a bad pick. He's a quarterback and

1501
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: to look like bus and that's like how it goes.

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01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: But maybe Malik Willis is sort of like if he

1503
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: was in that draft. It's funny to think about Lamar now, like,

1504
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: if Lamar Jackson was in this draft, his profile coming

1505
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: out of college, you'd be the number one overall pick,

1506
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: and he went thirty second. It's it's a little mind

1507
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: bending to think how how it's changed, how the league's changed. Um,

1508
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: all right, that's our last show of the week. We

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01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: have are the season finale of The Around the NFL

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01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: broadcast uh tomorrow Friday on NFL Network if you miss it.

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01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: According to Peter Schreeger, there they are that like three

1512
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: am on Monday morning, So just check your local listings,

1513
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: find it, watch it if you can. We really would

1514
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: appreciate it. And then next week we're all in for

1515
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Draft week. We will give you I think we're going

1516
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: to give you five shows. And people who are wondering,

1517
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: is the Mark Sessler mock Draft coming back? Damn right,

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01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: it is. It's an event. We don't skip events. It's

1519
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 1: a tadpole of the show and it will be treated

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01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: as such. Mark. Yeah, and I I promise as always

1521
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 1: to put at least forty two minutes into the research

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: and the good. Yes, and I think we did have

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01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: a discussion about not doing it, which I was surprised

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: I had it I stood on the table and was saying,

1525
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: we gotta do this mock draft, and it was kind

1526
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: of thrown out there are we gonna do that or not?

1527
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, we got we gotta do. I

1528
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 1: think it got blown out a little bit too much

1529
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 1: last year. We're going to find the right balance. And

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: just know that Malik Willis will he be the number

1531
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: two pick in Mark's mock draft after all that I'd

1532
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: like to think you will be. But Mark is also

1533
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: an unpredictable guy. He might not well, he's a businessman

1534
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: and he wants to beat Josh Norris. I know that.

1535
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm beat Daniel Jeremiah a few years ago,

1536
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: I believe. And if you you know what, if you

1537
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: put my leak Willis to the Lions at to just

1538
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: say you did go because I think in in final,

1539
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: in the final analysis that was not totally accurate. But

1540
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: I listen. I if they draft him at fifteen, though,

1541
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: I think you get credit for him team player match,

1542
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: it's close enough. And even if it's not, one more

1543
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: update from Kyler Murray help so he's on some sort

1544
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: of you know, LSD product. At this point, Kyler Murray,

1545
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: I will only play for the Cardinals and I will

1546
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 1: pay them. Wow. That no, that that's there's no where updates.

1547
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: It would be love wouldn't be awesome though, Like if

1548
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: he did a tweet and he just did that tongue

1549
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: cheek uh, that would blow up the internet. I think

1550
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: we haven't gotten any sense of humor detection off him yet,

1551
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 1: but maybe we just did not know him now. In

1552
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 1: according to like a J. Green conversation with the media

1553
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: this week, it felt like him and Kyler Murray had

1554
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: barely ever spoken. He said it in the nicest way possible,

1555
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: but that's what it felt like, all right, all right,

1556
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: last last one. Here's Christy. There she is behind the glass.

1557
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: Christie Stapleton um Mark is getting ready to make Malik

1558
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: Willis look she's running away ran She said, I'm not

1559
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: doing this, And that's It's like that dream you have

1560
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: in high school where like you're giving a speech to

1561
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: the class and you realize you're in your underwear. That's

1562
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: the way she just reacts. She sprinted out of here.

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01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: I think she's trying to sneak all right. Then, well

1564
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: she had her chance. It could have been a star

1565
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: and she and she's like this this life in front

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01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: of the microphone. He's up for everybody. It's only for

1567
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: the real heroes, the brave ones. It's one way to

1568
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: put it. Um, wh are you going with that? I don't.

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01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: I don't thank you for listening. Until draft week, Stan

1570
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: had the signing off for Rich eyes in the face.

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01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Rich, the old Boss, Quiet Storm,

1572
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, and the whole gang behind the glass. Christie

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01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: I had to sam disappointed until Tuesday. Heed the call,

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Speaker 1: m hm S