1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,480
Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all about

2
00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,440
Speaker 1: that high school drama, girl drama, girl, all about them.

3
00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,160
Speaker 2: High school queens.

4
00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,400
Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl

5
00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,560
Speaker 3: shared for the right teen.

6
00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,680
Speaker 4: Drama queens up girl fashion, but your tough girl, you

7
00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,520
Speaker 4: could sit with us.

8
00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:23,400
Speaker 1: Girl drama, Queens drama, queise drama, Queens drama, Drama, Queens drama, Queens.

9
00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,960
Speaker 5: Sophia, you went through a lot in this episode, so

10
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,960
Speaker 5: I do think you should be the person to bring us.

11
00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,440
Speaker 4: In herepis Rise. Let me just say, weird to have

12
00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,760
Speaker 4: missed last week and be like, what did I meant?

13
00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:36,440
Speaker 5: Oh?

14
00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,880
Speaker 4: Oh I missed, I missed a lot. But here we are.

15
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:45,640
Speaker 4: We've made it to season six, episode thirteen. Things a

16
00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,280
Speaker 4: Mama don No. This originally aired January fifth, two thousand

17
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,160
Speaker 4: and nine. Wow, that's weird that we're in two thousand

18
00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,920
Speaker 4: and nine. The synopsis, Friends, is that Peyton received some

19
00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,920
Speaker 4: startling news that she must share with Lucas while he

20
00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,160
Speaker 4: is still in La Lucas discovers that Julian has been

21
00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:09,040
Speaker 4: keeping another secret regarding the movie. Nathan struggles in a

22
00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,880
Speaker 4: new professional environment, and Brooks search for runaway Sam forces

23
00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,399
Speaker 4: her to confront her own feelings about the night of

24
00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,360
Speaker 4: her attack, and there's lots of ants, really moves out

25
00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,880
Speaker 4: of Marvin's apartment. This was directed by our favorite Mike Leone,

26
00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:31,440
Speaker 4: written by Karen Gist, And we have to talk about it.

27
00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,679
Speaker 5: You were doing a different movie on this episode, Like

28
00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:40,920
Speaker 5: what show? Completely different were we all making? We're making

29
00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,840
Speaker 5: like ten different shows. What are you talking about?

30
00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,240
Speaker 3: It was like, is it full House? Is it like?

31
00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,560
Speaker 3: Are we doing a party of five? A?

32
00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,840
Speaker 4: It was The Wonder Years with the Little Boys. It

33
00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,960
Speaker 4: was it was like a lifetime movie with Brooke and Xavior.

34
00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:01,000
Speaker 4: It was very I had a rough time. I had

35
00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 4: that feeling watching this episode taking notes where I was like, oh,

36
00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,240
Speaker 4: this is one of those moments that makes me embarrassed

37
00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,680
Speaker 4: about what we do for a living.

38
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,800
Speaker 5: Guys. I love my notes at the house. Like I

39
00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,640
Speaker 5: walked all the way down here to the garage. It's raining,

40
00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,000
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, I have to go get them.

41
00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,680
Speaker 5: And then I sat down and was like, no, I

42
00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,360
Speaker 5: don't know. I don't need those notes.

43
00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,440
Speaker 3: You remember what happened, you know how you feel.

44
00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,000
Speaker 5: I actually liked the episode, and I I think because

45
00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,919
Speaker 5: at this point we'd kind of resigned ourself to crazy.

46
00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,080
Speaker 5: It was like, I guess we're doing some crazy and

47
00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,920
Speaker 5: so it wasn't shocking anymore.

48
00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had really jumped the shark by this point.

49
00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,560
Speaker 4: I I will say, having not been with you guys

50
00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,600
Speaker 4: for the last one doing the recap, I was like,

51
00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,480
Speaker 4: oh my god, what's going to happen? And I don't know,

52
00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,519
Speaker 4: maybe I didn't see it coming, but I really had

53
00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,120
Speaker 4: no idea that this is when you were going to

54
00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,239
Speaker 4: tell Lucas you're pregnant. And I loved it either.

55
00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,600
Speaker 3: That was a big surprise, right, Yeah.

56
00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,760
Speaker 4: And you played it so well, Hill, because like you're

57
00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,960
Speaker 4: so emotional and so hysterical, and I mean that in

58
00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,280
Speaker 4: a good way, like not hysterical, like the way that

59
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,959
Speaker 4: people say that to women it makes me want to

60
00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,959
Speaker 4: poke them in the eyeballs.

61
00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,080
Speaker 3: But yah, hysterical.

62
00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,480
Speaker 4: They are all hysterical, darling. It made the reveal really

63
00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,440
Speaker 4: really fun. Yeah, that was a fun day on set.

64
00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,640
Speaker 5: Because maybe that's why I liked this episode because I

65
00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,600
Speaker 5: remember specifically what I was doing offset and I had

66
00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,280
Speaker 5: a friend from high school, this guy friend of mine,

67
00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,960
Speaker 5: and we were both just like going through it and

68
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880
Speaker 5: he was like, I'm going to come visit Wilmington. I

69
00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,880
Speaker 5: was like great, and so we came down for a

70
00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,520
Speaker 5: few days and he came to set that day that we.

71
00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,040
Speaker 4: Filled the pregnant scene.

72
00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,880
Speaker 5: And this is a person I've known since I was

73
00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,440
Speaker 5: eleven years old, and he I didn't know how he

74
00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,000
Speaker 5: was going to react, but I knew he'd be saying

75
00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,880
Speaker 5: if with Mike leone behind the monitor and like.

76
00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,200
Speaker 4: It would be a friendly experience.

77
00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,680
Speaker 5: And we left that day and he was so weirded out,

78
00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,520
Speaker 5: just like Hillary, you just started crying.

79
00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,640
Speaker 4: I've known you forever.

80
00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,800
Speaker 5: It was just so weird to see you like farting

81
00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,320
Speaker 5: around and that the second the yell action, You're just

82
00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,760
Speaker 5: snot and sweat.

83
00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,640
Speaker 3: And professional crier.

84
00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,680
Speaker 5: And that was it was fun to have someone there

85
00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,960
Speaker 5: for all this stuff, you know, and have a person

86
00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080
Speaker 5: from my real world like touch grass and.

87
00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,719
Speaker 4: Be like that's weird.

88
00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it was just a Peyton was having a

89
00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,880
Speaker 5: great time this episode.

90
00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,680
Speaker 4: She had good news so everybody else. Yeah, I feel

91
00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,760
Speaker 4: the tables have finally turned.

92
00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:44,560
Speaker 2: I know.

93
00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,520
Speaker 5: I mean, look, the boys were fantastic, right the boy

94
00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,800
Speaker 5: How come the boys never have to fight anybody?

95
00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,479
Speaker 3: I don't the boys have to cry.

96
00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,159
Speaker 4: They they fight.

97
00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,040
Speaker 5: But I love Chad's reaction to the pregnancy news, and

98
00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,760
Speaker 5: I loved when Lucas came home at the end. I'm jumping,

99
00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,120
Speaker 5: but I just remember really like being in tune with

100
00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,240
Speaker 5: Chad with the baby stuff because that was new for

101
00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,679
Speaker 5: us and we were pumped about it. It was almost

102
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,160
Speaker 5: like we were having a baby.

103
00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,680
Speaker 3: I like that there any any hint that of fear

104
00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,680
Speaker 3: that Julian might interfere with Lucas and Peyton completely is

105
00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,760
Speaker 3: gone in this episode. Of course, it's like the moment

106
00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,200
Speaker 3: she says I'm pregnant, that storyline moves immediately over to

107
00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,920
Speaker 3: well to Brook because he shows up to you know,

108
00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,920
Speaker 3: help her out. But yeah, that was fun. I also

109
00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,680
Speaker 3: really loved the pregnancy reveal. I thought that was really

110
00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,240
Speaker 3: well done. I did think it was going to be

111
00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,839
Speaker 3: some big, horrible news and then and then you turned

112
00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,320
Speaker 3: it your frown up right down. It was so cute.

113
00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, just you wait.

114
00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,480
Speaker 5: And I like that Mia was there, like very early

115
00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,599
Speaker 5: on in the episode to kind of the air because

116
00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,760
Speaker 5: there was a lot of dark shit in the last

117
00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,720
Speaker 5: episode that felt uncharacteristic of the relationships on our show,

118
00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,839
Speaker 5: and so I'm glad that we just got to them

119
00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,480
Speaker 5: and we're like.

120
00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,400
Speaker 4: Never mind just kidding, Right, Well, that's what it is.

121
00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,560
Speaker 3: It's never mind just kidding, because here's what's weird about

122
00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,400
Speaker 3: it is. In the last episode, it felt like you

123
00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,760
Speaker 3: were waiting on really on news, like you had heard

124
00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,120
Speaker 3: that something was wrong and you were really upset because

125
00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,760
Speaker 3: remember you took it out on me. You were so

126
00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,680
Speaker 3: mad at her, you were really proud she, But we

127
00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,360
Speaker 3: never clarified that. It was just like, now, all of

128
00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 3: a sudden, you're pregnant or did I miss something?

129
00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,600
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think Peyton went into the hospital thinking there

130
00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400
Speaker 5: was like a tumor, thinking there was like a thing.

131
00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they were testing you for ovarian cancer.

132
00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,280
Speaker 5: But they make you pee as a woman every time

133
00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,800
Speaker 5: you go to the It doesn't matter what it's like

134
00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,320
Speaker 5: a dentist appointment, you should still be in this cup. Yeah,

135
00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,640
Speaker 5: so I think that didn't even cross her mind, which

136
00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,280
Speaker 5: is stupid. When I was in my twenties, I had

137
00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,760
Speaker 5: like a pregnancy test in every drawing me too.

138
00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,520
Speaker 3: It's obsessive about it. Yeah I still have. Yeah, you know,

139
00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,560
Speaker 3: you gotta keep one around.

140
00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,280
Speaker 4: She didn't have a mother, she didn't know.

141
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,120
Speaker 3: Nobody taught her these things. I did love.

142
00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,560
Speaker 5: That I'm glad to be in the mother category because

143
00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,800
Speaker 5: I do think it gets you out of all the

144
00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,520
Speaker 5: bullsh because Haley is now getting to do all this,

145
00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,440
Speaker 5: like the full house stuff, like the sweet stuff. Yeah,

146
00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,200
Speaker 5: the you know, cuddling in bed, being sexy with Nathan.

147
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,920
Speaker 3: It didn't feel like a like a dramatic version of

148
00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,280
Speaker 3: full full house, like the whole Nathan and Haley stuff

149
00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,800
Speaker 3: and the even with Dawn. I mean, I did love

150
00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,080
Speaker 3: it with the little boys walking down the lake and

151
00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,840
Speaker 3: seeing that the tip blossom, it was super sweet. But

152
00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,240
Speaker 3: it also made me think, is this the time now

153
00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:48,120
Speaker 3: when we're all of our fans starting to have kids

154
00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,720
Speaker 3: that were our age, And so that's why they were like, well,

155
00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,040
Speaker 3: this is now a family show that you can watch

156
00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,720
Speaker 3: with your kids. I just couldn't figure out thinking the

157
00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,520
Speaker 3: show that we started making. It seemed just jointed for

158
00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,000
Speaker 3: a moment to be now watching a show about two

159
00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,360
Speaker 3: little kids. Not that it wasn't sweet, just was weird.

160
00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it feels I definitely think it feels

161
00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,440
Speaker 4: like a departure to watch the little boys. But also

162
00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,600
Speaker 4: Jackson such a good little actor. Yeah, and so was

163
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,720
Speaker 4: the little boy playing Andre. Yeah. But I think they

164
00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,360
Speaker 4: wanted to give him more to do. I think he

165
00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,640
Speaker 4: wanted more to do. And you know, he'd really been

166
00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,440
Speaker 4: put through his paces for two seasons now, and he's

167
00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,160
Speaker 4: got big boy teeth. Yeah, and there's well and there's

168
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:41,880
Speaker 4: also something about the Flipper. But there's something about the

169
00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,160
Speaker 4: way that Andre allows for the Quentin storyline to stay alive.

170
00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, which and we Nathan.

171
00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, with Nathan wanting to wear number twelve, and you know,

172
00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,559
Speaker 4: everything coming full circle with Brooks attack and the whole

173
00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,800
Speaker 4: thing it, it certainly feels like they they leaned into

174
00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,800
Speaker 4: it really hard so they could keep all of that moving. Yeah,

175
00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,520
Speaker 4: I think so top.

176
00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,959
Speaker 5: Of Mind's what this episode was. It was all full circle.

177
00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,520
Speaker 5: It's like if you go back, you know, you can

178
00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,640
Speaker 5: go back a season, you can go back five seasons.

179
00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,240
Speaker 5: Peyton and Lucas are finally together having a baby. You've

180
00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,000
Speaker 5: got Nathan's playing basket dream. The basketball dream is finally

181
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,080
Speaker 5: coming true, Hailey's getting back into music, Brooke is taking

182
00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,440
Speaker 5: her power back. You know, like all those full circle

183
00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,480
Speaker 5: moments are happening in this episode.

184
00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:31,680
Speaker 4: So it felt big.

185
00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, weird, but big weird.

186
00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:41,280
Speaker 3: But I was surprised about uh, Julian's dad being the

187
00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,400
Speaker 3: movie producer Gregory Harrison.

188
00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,120
Speaker 4: Yes, uh huh, what an absolute dream boat he is.

189
00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,440
Speaker 4: We spent we wound up spending so much time together

190
00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,800
Speaker 4: over the years, and he is such a nice man,

191
00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,360
Speaker 4: and I mean, my god, does he come in like

192
00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,240
Speaker 4: an eighties villain in the you know, just like yeah, yeah,

193
00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,880
Speaker 4: like that classically handsome You're like, does he own the newspaper?

194
00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,319
Speaker 4: Is he gonna run for governor?

195
00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:05,440
Speaker 5: Like?

196
00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:10,360
Speaker 4: Who's this bad man? And that made me giggle too,

197
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,720
Speaker 4: because it felt so it felt so weird watching him

198
00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,000
Speaker 4: and Lucas together that that felt like its own show.

199
00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,880
Speaker 4: I felt like I was watching like Days of Our Lives,

200
00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,839
Speaker 4: and then I felt like I was watching full House,

201
00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,880
Speaker 4: and then I felt like I was watching a Lifetime

202
00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,520
Speaker 4: movie of the Week where like the assaulted woman enacts

203
00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,960
Speaker 4: her revenge and I was like, what are we doing?

204
00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, we should have talked more back then. We should

205
00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,480
Speaker 5: have like done table reads or somebody.

206
00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't that have been nice? I feel like a

207
00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,079
Speaker 3: table read really could have solved a lot of problems.

208
00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,320
Speaker 4: Table reads would have been nice for us. No way.

209
00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,679
Speaker 5: The Gregory Harrison scenes are so great because this is

210
00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,520
Speaker 5: a show that's had some pretty complicated daddy issues, and

211
00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,640
Speaker 5: this guy comes in and connects with Lucas right away,

212
00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,360
Speaker 5: and I thought Chad was so good in those scenes.

213
00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,600
Speaker 4: He was really.

214
00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,720
Speaker 5: Listening and communicating clearly with this man, and like it

215
00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,320
Speaker 5: was like a healthy, non toxic male interaction. They're being

216
00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,920
Speaker 5: vulnerable with each other. I liked it, and I thought like, oh,

217
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,960
Speaker 5: that's the dad that Lucas needed. And then when Lucas

218
00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,520
Speaker 5: kind of schools him later, it's like I just found

219
00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,880
Speaker 5: out I'm becoming a father and I'll give.

220
00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,840
Speaker 4: My kid anything they want. I don't know.

221
00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,640
Speaker 5: I just thought how great for Lucas to have an

222
00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,280
Speaker 5: opportunity with a dad that's not Dann Dan and doesn't

223
00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,760
Speaker 5: carry the damage of the Keith relationship.

224
00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is really nice. It's interesting that you picked

225
00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,880
Speaker 4: up on that, because I think the thing I couldn't

226
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,400
Speaker 4: get past was why is this grown man telling this

227
00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,760
Speaker 4: adult man that he doesn't know that his son is

228
00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,880
Speaker 4: gonna try to because girlfriend, like I was, it felt

229
00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,880
Speaker 4: so out of character and unprofessional and like petty to me.

230
00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,559
Speaker 4: But that's obviously the writing. It's not sweet. Gregory who

231
00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,520
Speaker 4: did a great job with it.

232
00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,960
Speaker 3: He was playing opposite the intention, I think, which worked

233
00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,520
Speaker 3: really well.

234
00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Gregory just played it very like I know my

235
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,079
Speaker 4: son and he's a mess. He made it, you know, personal,

236
00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,600
Speaker 4: and I thought his motivations were really good. But I

237
00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,240
Speaker 4: was like, what movie producer would talk to a writer

238
00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,640
Speaker 4: like that, like, what's happening? Oh, Sonny, you're helping win

239
00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,640
Speaker 4: me over on it?

240
00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,840
Speaker 5: Did you see the big picture in the office that

241
00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,080
Speaker 5: was like the Warner Brothers water Tower, Like they modeled

242
00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,360
Speaker 5: the studio executive after Warner Brothers, and then they hired

243
00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,400
Speaker 5: the most handsome actor to come in and play like

244
00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,600
Speaker 5: Peter Roth. You know, it was like what executive at

245
00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,600
Speaker 5: Waterer Brothers? Were we trying to compliment with.

246
00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,120
Speaker 4: That little that is so animal?

247
00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,760
Speaker 5: Also, it's like a backhanded compliment of we're saying that

248
00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,040
Speaker 5: he's super petty and god, yeah, you know, weird.

249
00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:12,240
Speaker 4: But I do think the redeeming quality of it is

250
00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,200
Speaker 4: who Lucas gets to be in response, and it is,

251
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,680
Speaker 4: to your point, so nice to see him talk about

252
00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,560
Speaker 4: what he hopes would be his own course of action

253
00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:28,040
Speaker 4: as a father. That's really winning. And maybe it wouldn't

254
00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:34,360
Speaker 4: have felt quite as winning if Gregory hadn't been petty

255
00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,000
Speaker 4: about Julian, you know, like maybe you need the device

256
00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,319
Speaker 4: to make the payoff work.

257
00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,040
Speaker 3: I like that Lucas it felt like he was well,

258
00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,880
Speaker 3: I mean he did. He gave Julian the benefit of

259
00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,120
Speaker 3: the doubt, which was unusual in that moment, especially since

260
00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,960
Speaker 3: his dad wasn't a Danish sort of character. But maybe

261
00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,680
Speaker 3: that's what it was. He was just triggered by this

262
00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,880
Speaker 3: sense of care for another young man who's got a

263
00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,600
Speaker 3: conflict with his dad and just wanted to stick up

264
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,480
Speaker 3: for him and make it okay.

265
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,880
Speaker 5: Well that's such a good point because while I was

266
00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,200
Speaker 5: watching it hearing Julian described I was like, oh my god,

267
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,960
Speaker 5: Peyton Sawyer dated to Nathan Scott's. Like they're the same

268
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,640
Speaker 5: where they're winners, they have rich daddies, you know, and

269
00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,560
Speaker 5: they're really trying to fight the stereotype of who they

270
00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,240
Speaker 5: could be. They want to make art, they want to

271
00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,320
Speaker 5: make things beautiful, they want to be like good family people, but.

272
00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,040
Speaker 4: Those daddy issues are tricky.

273
00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,680
Speaker 5: Same dude, and Brooke Davis has kissed both of them.

274
00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,840
Speaker 3: Two Hey yay.

275
00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,200
Speaker 4: But you know what's so interesting about you saying that

276
00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,280
Speaker 4: is because we've recently had that storyline that I love

277
00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,520
Speaker 4: where Brooke and Nathan as adults are starting to rely

278
00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,760
Speaker 4: on each other as friends and communicate about their upbringings,

279
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,760
Speaker 4: and you know they're friends, and so it tracks for me.

280
00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,520
Speaker 4: As you say that that Julian has similarities to Nathan,

281
00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, actually, I think Brooke and Nathan's adult

282
00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:22,080
Speaker 4: friendship is probably in the energy part of what lets

283
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,040
Speaker 4: her see Julian too.

284
00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,400
Speaker 5: As we're talking about this, I feel like it's ringing bells.

285
00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,840
Speaker 5: Do you guys ever remember people describing Austin as the

286
00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,560
Speaker 5: third Scott brother because he's especially a hybrid of Lucas

287
00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,040
Speaker 5: and Nathan.

288
00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

289
00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,160
Speaker 5: I totally blanked on that until just this second.

290
00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah he does. He does sort of fit in both

291
00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,680
Speaker 3: of those, both of those pockets. I'm interested to see

292
00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,080
Speaker 3: how this unfolds. Though. As much as I disliked the

293
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:07,840
Speaker 3: whole movie storyline all together, I'm really glad that it

294
00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:14,160
Speaker 3: brought us Austin and Julian, and I'm interested to see

295
00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,800
Speaker 3: how this goes down with Luke. I was surprised that

296
00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,600
Speaker 3: he stuck up for him, but I'm glad that he did.

297
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,520
Speaker 3: When does Gregory come back though? Does he just come

298
00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,200
Speaker 3: on set for the movie? Is that the whole deal.

299
00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,120
Speaker 5: I remember him walking into Red Bedroom Records because he Yeah,

300
00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960
Speaker 5: he came in with Greg when we were all like

301
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,160
Speaker 5: being introduced our producer Greg, and it was Greg and Greg,

302
00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,120
Speaker 5: that's what it was. Yeah, And he was real, Like

303
00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,600
Speaker 5: I liked the energy he put out because he was

304
00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,000
Speaker 5: real like, I'm a family man.

305
00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,200
Speaker 4: I go right home after work. I don't hang out

306
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,440
Speaker 4: with kids. And I was like, all right, cool guy

307
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,280
Speaker 4: did it. Yeah.

308
00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,800
Speaker 5: He was just really clear about who he was and

309
00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,400
Speaker 5: what his role was there, and it was super professional.

310
00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,000
Speaker 5: And I remember the contrast between what we'd been exposed

311
00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,239
Speaker 5: to and then this new guy coming in, and I

312
00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,240
Speaker 5: really respected it. It was it was nice that he

313
00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,639
Speaker 5: articulated it so clearly.

314
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Julian's back on the movie and then he's

315
00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,800
Speaker 3: and then he's helping Brooke solve her massive problem. Right now, Well,

316
00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,800
Speaker 3: Brooks seemed to have actually solved it really quite well herself.

317
00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,120
Speaker 3: He just showed up. It's a little extra muscle.

318
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,040
Speaker 4: It was so odd to me though, why it was

319
00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,560
Speaker 4: blocked that way, like Austin and Evan just standing in

320
00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 4: the doorway like looking around, pulling out a phone.

321
00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:35,840
Speaker 2: Calling the cops.

322
00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,360
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, she's got this handled.

323
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,480
Speaker 4: I was like, this feels all of this feels weird.

324
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,520
Speaker 5: It all felt so someone told him that they were

325
00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 5: off camera.

326
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,639
Speaker 3: They were like, ways, can you see my feet? Are

327
00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,560
Speaker 3: you mym on camera?

328
00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:50,200
Speaker 5: No?

329
00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,240
Speaker 3: I loved Brooks line not a man. Let's start with

330
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,320
Speaker 3: the beginning of Brooke going cop, trying to find her,

331
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,520
Speaker 3: trying to find Sam, which is great. I really liked

332
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,080
Speaker 3: you in this episode. You you also like, very rarely

333
00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,320
Speaker 3: don't wear makeup in for Brook, you know, she was

334
00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720
Speaker 3: always like done up. It was really fun to see

335
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,480
Speaker 3: you just lean into the whole distraught mom, like not

336
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 3: concerned about getting makeup.

337
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:18,840
Speaker 4: You know.

338
00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,080
Speaker 3: Also, there was so much pressure from the studio to

339
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520
Speaker 3: have our hair and makeup and everything look a certain

340
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,120
Speaker 3: way that it was nice to be in a point

341
00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,760
Speaker 3: in the seasons where we could just kind of do

342
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,600
Speaker 3: what we wanted, what was best for the characters. Yeah,

343
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,919
Speaker 3: so that was kind of fun. But yeah, that was

344
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 3: my fave. Not a man. Not a man. Let's just

345
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,920
Speaker 3: get her priority straight, like I'm looking for my adopted

346
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 3: daughter who's disappeared. But by the way, not.

347
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not let's not start there. Yeah. I love

348
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,680
Speaker 4: those little interjections of humor that like she just kind

349
00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,159
Speaker 4: of can't help herself. Those were always really fun for

350
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,120
Speaker 4: me to play with the storyline. I don't know, it's

351
00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 4: weird to watch it back because it just feels so

352
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,359
Speaker 4: extreme it is, and watching it just makes me feel

353
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 4: so uncomfortable. And it also made me think, like we

354
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 4: get to the end of it and they have me

355
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 4: repeat his line to him, like you have a nice

356
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,560
Speaker 4: night or whatever. And they always did that with us,

357
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 4: like I think about in later seasons. Yeah, they would

358
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 4: always make us like repeat what the bad guy said

359
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 4: to us, Like I remember they whenever that was was

360
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 4: it season eight when we did the big hurricane episode,

361
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 4: and like they make Chantelle do it, yeah, and didn't

362
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 4: Paul do it to Carrie? Yeah, Like it's just like, God,

363
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 4: what are we doing? Why every single time do we

364
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,880
Speaker 4: repeat the thing the villain said, I don't know you guys,

365
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 4: And the whole thing just like made me cringe. I

366
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 4: was like, I can't.

367
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,440
Speaker 5: It's so psychedic all over again. It is like they

368
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,640
Speaker 5: knew that it was a moneymaker to beat a girl up.

369
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 5: And the thing that was hard for me is like

370
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,719
Speaker 5: we were in our twenties when we got beat up

371
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 5: by Psychoederic, like we were grown ups, but Ashley, it

372
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 5: was like a kid. Actually was a little kid getting

373
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 5: thrown onto that bed by grown man. Yeah and that

374
00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 5: felt gross? Ye, And yeah, I don't know that we

375
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 5: needed to duct tape a little girl and put her

376
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 5: in a closet to get our fan base invested. Our

377
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 5: fan base was awesome, Like, we didn't have.

378
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 4: To go to the extreme that way.

379
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 5: And so Brooke is essentially doing the same exact thing

380
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 5: she did in the prom episode, where now instead of Peyton,

381
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 5: she's coming in and taking duct tape off of Sam's

382
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 5: mouth and I'm not going to leave you.

383
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 4: We're gonna do this together. You know.

384
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 3: I wonder how those things get past the writer's room, Like,

385
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 3: how is there no one that's going, well, maybe the

386
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: whole room was going we already did this, and there was,

387
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 3: you know, one person that was determined to make it happen.

388
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 3: But I I don't understand why we had to go

389
00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 3: to the absurd extreme again. It just seemed so over

390
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: the top. And my note here of watching a woman's

391
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 3: squirm while a man looms over them over her, it's

392
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 3: just so unnecessary and it doesn't fit our show. It

393
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 3: doesn't fit the themes of our show. I didn't understand

394
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: what the point was other than to make it salacious,

395
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: and it felt really distasteful to me. I didn't like it.

396
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just a lot of it felt like it

397
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 4: leaned in a way that was just so uncomfortable. The

398
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 4: way he was directed to throw her around, the really

399
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 4: sexual tone of the conversation, like with me, going, do

400
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 4: you think they're having sex? And like speaking of mouths

401
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 4: as yours is nice, like gros. It was just like,

402
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just was like, what, why are

403
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: we doing this? And it's not that women don't get assaulted,

404
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 4: it's not that there aren't creepy men in the world.

405
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,239
Speaker 4: We've all had our encounters with them. But it's like,

406
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 4: why is this what we're choosing to do on TV?

407
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not teaching anybody anything through this experience. That's

408
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 3: what was irritating to me. It was just sallacious. It

409
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: was just soap opera. Oh, let's make him the bad

410
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 3: guy by giving him gross things to say, and let's

411
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 3: watch her be really uncomfortable because that's what happens to women.

412
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 5: So he's a thief, murderer and rapist, he's all the things.

413
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 3: All the yeah, yeah, and it just yeah, it felt

414
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 3: totally unnecessary because we weren't learning anything. We weren't teaching

415
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 3: anyone anything. There was no catharsis. It wasn't it was.

416
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: It was totally pointless. It really really frustrated me. However,

417
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: I really did like watching Brook kick his ass see

418
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: thank you.

419
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 4: That did feel that did feel cathartic.

420
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 5: There was a GQ article that was written about our

421
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 5: show by the guy who owned Peyton's house, and I

422
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 5: remember he called our show a rape fantasy and I

423
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 5: was so at the time. I mean he wrote it

424
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 5: like when the show was still on the air, and

425
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 5: I was so like what And he he was a

426
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 5: buddy of mine, he was older than and I was like,

427
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 5: that's what he took away from the show. But watching

428
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 5: this episode, I'm like, oh my god. For an adult

429
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 5: man who has a daughter that's living on one of

430
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 5: the sets and the fan base is like watching rape fantasy,

431
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: I can imagine his horror.

432
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 4: I would be creeped out.

433
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: You know, like, yeah, I wonder how Mike Leone handled this,

434
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: because you know, he just like we all have to do,

435
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: you have to completely commit to the job, you got

436
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 3: to throw yourself into one hundred percent, whether you think

437
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous on the page or not. So as a

438
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: director who has daughters, I just wonder we should ask

439
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 3: him one day.

440
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 5: Well, he kept the sets so light so that it

441
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: never felt threatening.

442
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, Yeah, he was always had a very

443
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: positive mindset and dialogue going.

444
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ashley kicked ass. She did, she was so good.

445
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: And I do remember him talking to us about liking

446
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 4: this dynamic that the girls were going to fight back,

447
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 4: you know, and that he really wanted us to go

448
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 4: for it. And I mean we choreographed a really gnarly fight, yeah,

449
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: between Xavier and Brooke. It was violent, and Mike was

450
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: really all in on you know, this woman kicking this

451
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 4: man's ass. And I was like, yeah, that feels right,

452
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: We're going to do it, Like, let's do it. Yeah,

453
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 4: And and so I do think that's that is part

454
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: of it, right, is your job is to make the

455
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: script you have, so it's in a way you're in

456
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 4: a box, but you try to do your best inside

457
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: of it.

458
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: Did you was this post the hitcher for you or

459
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: same time?

460
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? This was years later, Oh it was.

461
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I was wondering if it was like they saw that,

462
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 3: you know, they felt like that was exciting and I

463
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: saw the success and they were like, oh, let's do it.

464
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: Just let's just get do it it again with Sophia.

465
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: You know what, it would have.

466
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 5: Made it better if you had had to teach Sam

467
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: that cheer camp trick just real fast.

468
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: Make a table, all force, all fours, tight cor.

469
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: Cheerleadership.

470
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 4: I would have fixed it. That would have been funny.

471
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 5: I know though, Like you know when we would get

472
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 5: scripts like this kind of that gut feeling of.

473
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: Oh, I gotta do this.

474
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 5: But you know they've been showing Brook with a gun.

475
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: They've been showing Brook like possessing all of this trauma

476
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 5: for so long. Yeah, I get full circle, like you're

477
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 5: saying to just like get it over with, like okay, fine, yeah,

478
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 5: let's fight.

479
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 4: Let's be done. Yeah, Like, let's do it and be done.

480
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: And is it after this? Does Brook start to kind

481
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: of go back to normal or do you do you remember?

482
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: I don't remember.

483
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 5: Well, we know she put her head on Julian's chest.

484
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 4: She just crumpled right in.

485
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 5: It was like speed where they kiss at the end

486
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 5: because it's just been such an extreme day.

487
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 3: Kiss me make this day better.

488
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 4: I've got to put my feelings somewhere in your mouth.

489
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 2: Oh god.

490
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: It's also so funny because and I know we've talked

491
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: about this, but obviously we had really tall boys on

492
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: our show, and so we were always in heels. But

493
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: because we'd been doing stunts, I was in converse. So

494
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: like me leaning into Austin's chest, it's like my forehead

495
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: goes into a sternum, Like it's the least sexy embrace.

496
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 4: It just looks like it's like kid's sister being like, oh.

497
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Dark, No, I look cute.

498
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 5: It looked cute, and then he like gives you a

499
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 5: little pet, like a.

500
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 4: Little pet pet. Yeah, they like it's okay, honey.

501
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 5: No, it kept it like simplatonic but.

502
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: Also like well spicy going on here.

503
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: Yeah it was cute. It wasn't as cute as chasing

504
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: me though. No, that was cutie, super cute.

505
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: Fun to see that it's starting.

506
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 4: How is she only eighteen?

507
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: Wait? Is she is that what we figured out?

508
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 4: That's what our kids? She says it. Oh, when she's

509
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 4: teaching him to make Long Island iced teas, he's like,

510
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 4: do you want my job? And she says I can't.

511
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm only eighteen, that's right, And I was like, excuse,

512
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 4: but I guess we're all only twenty two, so I.

513
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: Guess that's true. It seems like we're so much older

514
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 3: for all the problems we're dealing with.

515
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: It is so insane.

516
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't remember us driving around in the car.

517
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 5: I don't remember chasing me immetingly. I think the element

518
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 5: of surprise for me watching this was great because I just, yeah,

519
00:27:58,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 5: somewhere else.

520
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: There was a lot I didn't remember, but I wish

521
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: I could remember why anyone convinced us that it was

522
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 4: a sellable thing to do to stop the car just

523
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: in the road, shoot the scene, and then keep driving. Yeah.

524
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 4: I was like, they couldn't have just put us on

525
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: a process trailer.

526
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 5: No, no, no, because we were already at Quinton's house.

527
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 5: They're like, not only are the girls going to stop,

528
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 5: they're going to stop at Quentin's house. Right.

529
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: It must have been behind.

530
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: It had to have been behind on the day. They

531
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 3: just had to get it done.

532
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 4: It was really terrible. I was embarrassed. I was like,

533
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: I mean, we did it, we did our jobs, but like, why, Yeah,

534
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: that's on traffic. It's a residential neighborhood.

535
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: You just stopped.

536
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 4: I just need to say this here and then I

537
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: can keep driving. When you literally say to me, you go,

538
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: you're driving Brooke and we're stopped in the middle of

539
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: the street.

540
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be fair, I did think from peripherally, I

541
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: did think that it was you guys were at a

542
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: stop late for a second, is it. Do you think

543
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: maybe they were trying to make it look like that.

544
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't watching it the way that you were,

545
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: because you were there, so you remember.

546
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: Every single thing. Just gave me the eck. I was like,

547
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: oh god, I'm embarrassed. No, you were just looking so hard.

548
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 5: By the way, just so every woman out there knows

549
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 5: that bullshit about having to wait forty eight hours when

550
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 5: someone's missing. I believed that for years until I started

551
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 5: doing it couldn't happen here and met with law enforcement

552
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 5: and they're like.

553
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 4: Oh, no, that's just total bullshit.

554
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 5: That's just what we tell people so that you know,

555
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: we're only dealing with real serious stuff. And so if

556
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 5: you have someone who is missing, make them try to

557
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 5: show you the code, because it's not real.

558
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 4: It's not real.

559
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: WHOA Now, if there is a child or a woman

560
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 5: or anyone that is missing, just push hard. Yeah, because

561
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 5: when that cop was all like, ladies, she's a runaway,

562
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 5: she's also an at risk juvenile all get her.

563
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy.

564
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: Do you guys see the lady on Instagram who does

565
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: lie for your safety?

566
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: Have you seen this girl?

567
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: I actually don't even know if I follow her, if

568
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: I just she just keeps popping up in my feed.

569
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a lie. It's life for your safety.

570
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: It's like all the rules of how to things that

571
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: you can say to make sure that if you're an

572
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: environment where you feel in danger, that you know the

573
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: right lie to tell you know, you're never home alone,

574
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: You're never I don't remember all of them, but they're

575
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: really good. Also, I should try and find some and

576
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: send them over because it's something that I want my

577
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: daughter to know about too. I feel like there's a

578
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: lot of these sort of unspoken rules and things that

579
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: you can do that, yeah, helpful so.

580
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: You don't go missing. Right, of course needs to at that's.

581
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: What Sam needs. She was so good. Ashley Ricard's man.

582
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: I just love her work all the time. She always

583
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 3: surprises me. I was also surprised by Millie and mouth

584
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: in this episode, are we going for it? Move on?

585
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 4: That was a rough made me sad.

586
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 5: Beilification of Milly here didn't make me happy same, I

587
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 5: didn't like it at all.

588
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I get in the heat of the moment,

589
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: it's a fight. Oh my god, I slept with somebody

590
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: else and I was a virgin. It was supposed to

591
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: be you like that. That's heated, that's intense. That's an

592
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: intense thing to deal with in a relationship. I could

593
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: understand why there would they would part ways in the

594
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: moment and go, you know, stress out somewhere else. But

595
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: like that last scene of her packing up her bags

596
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 3: and leaving and I'm sorry, I'm sorry too, Like I'm sorry,

597
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: you're such a slick you did this like off ew No,

598
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: it made me really mad.

599
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: Well and bothered me about it again. It's like it's

600
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 4: the commodification of women and the excusing of men's bad behavior,

601
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: which I mean, we know who wrote our show, so fine,

602
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: but it's so crazy to me that he has been

603
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 4: behaving the way he's been behaving, like leading on this

604
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: woman having this really inappropriate flirtatious relationship, knows it makes

605
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: his partner uncomfortable. And then continues it keeps going farther.

606
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: He doesn't stand up for himself or for his partner.

607
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: And then because she is like, I'm out, like it

608
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't matter, this idea that like she did

609
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 4: the worst thing. I'm like, no, we were on a break.

610
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: We were on a break weeks and months of being

611
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 5: gas lit and like being lied to, and when you

612
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 5: have the courage to articulate, you are me and the

613
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 5: other person is just like, sorry, not sorry, you know

614
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 5: you're blowing this out of proportion. Go sleep with all

615
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 5: the bartenders you want.

616
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 4: I don't care.

617
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 5: Go Milly go like I hate it for her that

618
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 5: it was not a special moment and that it was like,

619
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: of course, yah, maybe Owen showed her a good time.

620
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 5: We don't know, we weren't there. Yeah we did Brook

621
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 5: ever sleep with Owen.

622
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: I don't know together, I don't think so okay.

623
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, look at this little dosey dough. Now Milly's shacking

624
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: up with Owen and Brooke is making googly.

625
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: Eyes at Julian and listen.

626
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 5: I like it.

627
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 4: I like it.

628
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 5: There's that moment in Close Over Bros. Where Peyton clocks

629
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: Julian and Brooke talking to each other about looking for

630
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: Sam and that was fun.

631
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: That was a fun moment. You're like, huh, you guys

632
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: get a free pass.

633
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 5: You're good.

634
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, enjoy yourself.

635
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: We've just talk about nain m hmmm.

636
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: Leather varsity jacket.

637
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: So good.

638
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: I love it.

639
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: Why doesn't he wear that every day?

640
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh yeah, I love it. I love

641
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: seeing him. I like that. I'm so glad they're keeping

642
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: basketball alive on the show because I was getting to

643
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: I mean, slamball was great too, But yeah, we definitely

644
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 3: need to continue that. I mean, I'm not surprised he

645
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: made the Bee League. I knew he would only because

646
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 3: I suspected it, not because I remembered. But that was fun.

647
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: Why did they I don't know.

648
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: Okay, this is a I am a little uncomfortable that

649
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: every bad guy trash talker that Nathan runs into is

650
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 5: a blackmail.

651
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what the hell? Like, no, it's awful.

652
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: It's pretty tone deaf and like, yeah, gross, yep, didn't

653
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 5: like that, And it's happened over and over and over again.

654
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: And what's frustrating is it like that's one of the

655
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: things that you point out to the powers that be

656
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 4: and they tell you you're being too sensitive and ridiculous,

657
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: and you're like, but do you.

658
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: Not, Yeah, because they have being inclusive. They're like, it's diversity.

659
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: We're bringing in lots of people who have color. And

660
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: you're going, okay, but in what capacity?

661
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah? Just take a look. Yeah, you're like you really,

662
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 4: you really haven't finished the sentence yet, have yet?

663
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: Okay?

664
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: Okay, But I thought that bad Guy was great, you know,

665
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 5: did a good job.

666
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: Kind of familiar to me. Why does that actor looks

667
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: so familiar?

668
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: I really liked that he he puts something underneath the

669
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 4: combativeness mm hmm. Like so many people, you know, get

670
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: a guest star rule like that and they're just supposed

671
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: to be like, you know, the combative, angry whatever, and

672
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: and he had something else going on. Yeah.

673
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he made it real unrelatable.

674
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: You could feel the pressure and the goals, and it

675
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 4: was really I thought it was a really beautiful performance

676
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: that did more with that role than what was on

677
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: the page. And I wish we could ask Mike Leone

678
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: about it, like, you know, knowing our show so well

679
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: and for our friends at home, Mike Leone, who directed

680
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 4: this episode, was our script supervisor on the show, so

681
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 4: I mean, there's literally no one who knows our scripts better. Yeah,

682
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: and I'd be so curious to know how he would

683
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: think about, you know, how to direct people because of that,

684
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 4: because these.

685
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: Are grown ass men tearing each other's pictures up like that's.

686
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was so dumb.

687
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: I wrote that down in my notes.

688
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: I was like, what adult men are ripping up each

689
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 4: other's family photos? Like what are we doing?

690
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 3: But not the kid? Like you wouldn't touch the kid,

691
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: but the but the wife and the whole family. That's progress.

692
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 3: That was so strange. Yeah, I don't know, do you

693
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: guys do this in like in sports, because you're gonna

694
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: like you guys, we.

695
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: Are talking about an episode in which grown men ripped

696
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: up each other's family photos and I pistol whipped someone.

697
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 4: What is happening? Like, what is happening?

698
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 5: And the thing is, though, you know when you go

699
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 5: to a restaurant and they put all the shit together

700
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 5: that shouldn't go together, like eggs on a donut on

701
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: a pizza, and you taste it and you're like.

702
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: I mean all right, yeah, no, I love it.

703
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what our show is at this point. It

704
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: is just yea eggs on a donut on a pizza

705
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 5: and the salt sugar mixed together, and you're like fine.

706
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, fine, whatever, just just it's all going to the

707
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: same place.

708
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 4: You're like looking at it makes me feel a little sick,

709
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: but it is delicious.

710
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: Okay. So this is bj Britt. He was in Vampire Suck,

711
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: Agents of She and Peaceful Warrior. Maybe Shield is when

712
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: I I don't know, but he was. He was really good.

713
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: I was glad to see what you said, Sophia as well,

714
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: that there was something underneath it, and it made me

715
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: want to see more of him me too.

716
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I wonder are they going to become friends,

717
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: because that would be cool.

718
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: I mean, is it that sense of healthy competition where

719
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: he knows they're going to be trash talking him from

720
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: the other team on the court, so they they sort

721
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: of give each give it to each other in practice

722
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 3: so that they're used to it and build up their immunity.

723
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sporty either, I don't really know.

724
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 4: I love the immunity to the trash talk.

725
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 5: Community, to trash we're going to go put on little shorts, jockstrap,

726
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 5: little say nasty things to each other.

727
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: Like I just that's what my child does theater go on?

728
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: Now talk feelings? Do that?

729
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: Well?

730
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 4: The toxic team mentality is not good for anyone.

731
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this coach, this coach has been in so

732
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: many episodes and all I ever hear called coach and

733
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, what is this character's name?

734
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: It's making me know who is he? Because he's a

735
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: good actor.

736
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: The blonde guy.

737
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hockelmbrook didn't kiss him, you know, I don't know.

738
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 4: I didn't kiss the hot doctor. I didn't kiss the

739
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: cute coach. What are we doing?

740
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm still mad about the doctor doctor.

741
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: It was a real missed opportunity.

742
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: We have a fun quote from Jackson, was it?

743
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: Jackson?

744
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 3: Sometimes people have to cry out all the tears to

745
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: make a room for a heart full of smiles. I'm sentimental.

746
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: I thought that was really sweet.

747
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, the little kids processing grief together. Really it just

748
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 4: cuts to the quick of the issue in a very

749
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: interesting way. And I know it's strange to kind of

750
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: watch those Wonder Years scenes, but I liked it for

751
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: what you saw Jackson process, for the way that it

752
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: kept Quentin top of mind for Nathan, and then for

753
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: what it offered to Dawn, you know, her being able

754
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 4: to have this moment where she realizes that her young

755
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: child is seeing more than she thinks he is, because

756
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the truth for every parent, right like

757
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: my God, In my adult years, as I've done therapy,

758
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: like all of us have, you know, I've taken some

759
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 4: things to my parents and they're like, what do you

760
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: You weren't there or you remember that? And I'm like, hello,

761
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: I've been in therapy for thirty years. What are we

762
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: talking about? And it's like, we don't often get to

763
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 4: see that when a kid gets to look at a

764
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: parent and say I am affected by this. Yeah, And

765
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 4: I thought, I don't know. I thought that that was

766
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 4: really special, and I thought it was a sweet device.

767
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: I definitely feel that as a parent that I'm constantly

768
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: surprised by how much she notices and remembering how at

769
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: such a young age, when they're is grief to process

770
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: and there are hard things you find. You try and

771
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 3: find ways and quotes and isms and metaphors and just

772
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 3: ways to make it really simple for a child's mind

773
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 3: to process things that are hard. So I think that's

774
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: also why I really loved that quote, because it felt

775
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: so so simple and yet so poignant and real. But yeah,

776
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: I mean it's true.

777
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: The kids.

778
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Kids see everything, they notice everything, they just don't know

779
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 3: what they're looking at all the time.

780
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 5: Down coming from a comedy background and doing such heavy

781
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 5: dramatic work in this, I don't know if that's like

782
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 5: the secret trick, you know, like Steve Carell has that thing,

783
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: Jim Carrey did it, and we're like, you're a funny person.

784
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 5: I was obsessed with don when she joined our show

785
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: because I was a kid that grew up on a

786
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 5: different world, and then I was obsessed with Tenth Kingdom

787
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: and she plays one of the trolls in Tenth Kingdom,

788
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 5: which was a mini series that came on like senior

789
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: in high school.

790
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, wait was this like the ABC Sunday

791
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: Night movie that was like a three parts.

792
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: John there kat Oh cool, Yeah, she's one of the trolls.

793
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: I have to go back and watch this.

794
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 5: And so Dawn had done all of this comedic work

795
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 5: and she comes on to our show and there is

796
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 5: zero funny about what she's doing, and she just nails it.

797
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 5: And I loved that she wasn't despondent, she wasn't in

798
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 5: her room locked up. She's still functioning in the kitchen

799
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: doing the very best that she can. Yeah, and the

800
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 5: kid is still clocking the energy.

801
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: In the cleanest house I ever saw.

802
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but there have been so many pictures of her

803
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 5: on the internet lately. We have some mutual friends and

804
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: she's doing the reunion tour for a Different World right now.

805
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 5: So she's out there and like what like her cute

806
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 5: outfits dancing on stage with the.

807
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: Whole cat go to the reunion tour for Different World?

808
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: Where is that happening?

809
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 5: That show is so good and I watched so much

810
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 5: of it as a kid, and I'm like, what's the

811
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 5: equivalent of that now?

812
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, But I had such a crush on

813
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: Malcolm Jamal Warner. I love that show. Was he on that? Yeah?

814
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: He came in like halfway I think he did. Maybe

815
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: he did like a guest well because it was wasn't it.

816
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: Where Denise Denise goes to college?

817
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he would come in and I think he

818
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 3: came in on like for a season or something to visit.

819
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 4: I loved it.

820
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 5: Such a cool, cool cast and so yeah, Dawn, I'm

821
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: glad we kept the Fields family as long as we did.

822
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 5: When we started we started this season and like Quentin

823
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 5: dies so quickly. I was like, what I thought there

824
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 5: was more, and so I'm glad. I'm glad there was more.

825
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: I hope there's more and more they say.

826
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 4: I know. It's like, I want to see the parallel

827
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: universe of our show and see what Robbie would have

828
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: done in season six if we had not made that

829
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: terrible mistake.

830
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 5: We have to make the point though, that Devin McGee

831
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 5: was given a storyline and he was given work to do,

832
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 5: and he did such a good job being a creep.

833
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: Oh so trutally terrifying.

834
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 5: You know, the light switch thing that happens when he's like, Sam,

835
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 5: you better keep your mouth shut. And then he's having

836
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: that creepy conversation with Brooke where he's like, I'm trying

837
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 5: to get my work done.

838
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: And he's being really like almost a mirror. Yeah, he's like,

839
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: I'm really so understated and small.

840
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: It's weird. That's hard to do. It's hard to pull

841
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: that off. I would think I haven't had to play

842
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 3: a real creep, but I would think that's pretty difficult

843
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: to do where you're like trying to I guess it's

844
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: kind of like playing drunk. Were you trying to play sober.

845
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 5: You know, you can see him trying to play normal,

846
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 5: and it's.

847
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: So great exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah.

848
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 5: No, he did such a good job, and I love

849
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 5: that he does conventions, and I love that there are

850
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 5: fans that are like, I gotta give me a picture

851
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: with him.

852
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 4: I need my villain picture.

853
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: I'm starting to miss deb I really miss Moira, just

854
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: their presence on camera, and I feel like I need

855
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: some more of that soon. I'm even starting to miss Dan.

856
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: I feel like we haven't seen him in a while either.

857
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 3: I know what's going on. I need them back.

858
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 4: Did we miss any storylines? Well, the only one that

859
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: we haven't talked about is Owen breaking his sobriety.

860
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really curious.

861
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 4: I thought that the sort of collision course of Owen

862
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 4: and Millie was cool, just because they're both great actors

863
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 4: and it was interesting to see them as characters sort

864
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: of run into each other with their pain. I do

865
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 4: wish we'd seen a little more of what happened, and

866
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: I want to understand.

867
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: I don't know what did you guys.

868
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: Think about the way they handled him breaking his sobriety,

869
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: because I didn't understand why it was happening, and then

870
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: only when Chase comes does he say, you know, they

871
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: gave him pain pills because he got hurt and slamball,

872
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, wait a second, this could have

873
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: been like a big deal. Yeah, this could have been

874
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: a really good storyline for him, and instead it just

875
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: seemed like he went rogue and then threw it all away.

876
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: It's one of the hard parts I think about being

877
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: on a show with a big ensemble cast, and also

878
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 3: one of the puzzling things because we did twenty two episodes,

879
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: so there was plenty of time to tease out some

880
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: of these some of these character development pieces instead of

881
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: doing random violent storylines. Again, so it's confusing as to

882
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: me as to why they didn't take the time to

883
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: draw that out. But considering all the other things they

884
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: were packing in, I feel like we sometimes ended up

885
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: with caricatures of characters rather than and who they really are.

886
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 3: And I wish I'd have been able to see Owen

887
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: have some of his own moments outside of his connection

888
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 3: to other people that are core members of the show,

889
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 3: because we were at a point now in the series

890
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: where I would have been fine. I mean, Joe's compelling

891
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: to watch. He's interesting, he's a good actor. We knew

892
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: enough about his storyline, his interactions with you and Rachel,

893
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 3: and yeah, I would have been fine watching him have

894
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: his own arc in an episode outside of his relation

895
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 3: to any of us.

896
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: Same.

897
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: I wish they would have done it.

898
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 5: It makes me feel better to hear that you wanted

899
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 5: to see more of what actually happened with Millie and Owen,

900
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 5: because that was my gut instinct. And I didn't know

901
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 5: if I was being like voyeuristic, but I wasn't looking

902
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 5: for sexy.

903
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 4: I was like, what happened? Did he cry? Because he's like, yeah,

904
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 4: did she cry because she was truck? How did they

905
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: say goodbye to each other?

906
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 5: Like all of those things really inform.

907
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: But that wasn't the point. The point was Million's a slut.

908
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: That's the point exactly.

909
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why we didn't get it.

910
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't get any real payoff.

911
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: No, it's all shapes how she's reacting to mouth the

912
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: next day, like what was that experience?

913
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 4: Was it sad? Was it mean?

914
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 5: Was it scary? Was it actually like kind of nice?

915
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 5: Which makes her feel guilty, Like we have no idea

916
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 5: and to not get a hint at that, But you're

917
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 5: right to get the violence over and over again when

918
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: we could have had something that was really telling us a.

919
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: Story, substantive stuff.

920
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, what do we think happened? Do we ever find out?

921
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 4: I don't know. But the thing that I think about

922
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 4: in terms of the million Owen dynamic is like Owen

923
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 4: wouldn't sleep with brut right, Remember he was like, I'm

924
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: not doing that. Oh yeah, he has a whole thing

925
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: about himself and I think about his sobriety, and I

926
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: would like to think that if they had that conversation,

927
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: there would have been a lot of like are you sure?

928
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about it. I would

929
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: have loved to have seen her go. All that waiting

930
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: has done is made it seem like a bigger deal.

931
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 4: Everyone's paranoid. I don't know what to do, you know, like,

932
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: let them have a real conversation about why she might

933
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: just want to get this thing over with and let

934
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: him ask her questions, let them make a decision, like

935
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: it's not something I think he would be flippant about,

936
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: given what we know about him as a character. And

937
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: I actually think it would have been such a cool

938
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 4: dynamic to see two grown adults have a conversation and

939
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 4: like make a decision, and was it then funny and awkward?

940
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: Like did they have kind of a good time? Was

941
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 4: she then? Like, well, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't

942
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 4: with someone I'm in love with? Like how do I

943
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: process that? You know? I would have liked to have

944
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: seen real exploration of intimacy and the way we make

945
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: our decisions.

946
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: We got it with mouth mouth got to have those

947
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: conversations with like Shelley and with Rachel, you know, like

948
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 5: he got to have these let's let's talk it out,

949
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 5: let's think about it.

950
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: With Erica, marsh Mill is just the the angel to

951
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: the whores. So fast, girl, it's terrible.

952
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: It's such a bad cliche. Bad look, what a bad look.

953
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 5: See I liked it when she got her double bag

954
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 5: and got the out. I was like, yeah, girl, you

955
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 5: gotta go live on your own do some things.

956
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, bad look on the writing, But yes,

957
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: I was down for Milly.

958
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: By the way, That's what Hailey tells me, is like,

959
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: you gotta go out and live a life. You can't

960
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: write songs if you don't have any stories.

961
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 5: Right points are made, so everybody's got stories this week.

962
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 3: Speaking of making stories, we have a question from Kate.

963
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: Can you speak to how you direct an episode that

964
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: you act in as well and how do you get

965
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: support for the scenes you're in. That's an interesting question,

966
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 3: thanks Kate. So how did you find that did you

967
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: enjoy it?

968
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 4: I did? I enjoyed it. I think you know the

969
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: way that I did it, and I would imagine you

970
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: did much the same. Was you know, our on site producer,

971
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: Greg was on set every day when we were directing,

972
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: and you know, he was one of the people who

973
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: directed the most episodes of our show. And essentially, you know,

974
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 4: you would still spend your week doing prep and pre

975
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: production and location scouts and all the things you needed

976
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 4: to do, and then you would block scenes and for

977
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: the ones you were in, you would block them with

978
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 4: your actors, tell people what you wanted to do. Your

979
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: stand ins would watch as normal, but then you'd step

980
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: out and you'd watch the stand in do the scene

981
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 4: with all the actors and make sure it was looking

982
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 4: and then that would be it. And so when when

983
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 4: we would have to act in scenes, Greg would call

984
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 4: action and cut. You know, we would converse in detail

985
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 4: about did the camera move happen the way I described it?

986
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: Did it feel really fluid?

987
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 5: You know?

988
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 4: Did the reveal work because you had to trust someone

989
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 4: else to be your eyes? And then obviously for all

990
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: the scenes you're not in, you just get to singularly

991
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 4: focus and be the director. Yeah.

992
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not enjoy it because I prefer to

993
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 3: just be totally in the moment. So I want to

994
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: be totally focused with what I'm doing, whether I'm directing,

995
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: I want to be totally focused on that. If I'm

996
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: in a scene, I don't want to be looking at

997
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: the other actor thinking about what they should be doing

998
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 3: differently to make the scene better, or what I should

999
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 3: be doing differently because I can't tell because I'm it's

1000
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: That was not fun for me. I didn't like that.

1001
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 3: I just wanted to be there and like experience.

1002
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 4: You've directed stuff after the show, right, I did?

1003
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of short films and commercial and some stuff.

1004
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: I'd like to do more, but I'm just not at

1005
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 3: that point in my life right now. Have you directed yet?

1006
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 4: Hillary? No?

1007
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: Why you should? Yeah, you really would be very good

1008
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 3: at it.

1009
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: Well, that's nice, thank you.

1010
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 5: I have a complicated relationship I think with scripted television,

1011
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: and I'm realizing that as we go through this process

1012
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 5: because my husband loves it in a way that I

1013
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: still feel this resistance too. I had a person be like, Hillary,

1014
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 5: what do you watch?

1015
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: What do you love?

1016
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 5: And I was like, I strictly watch documentary, and so

1017
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 5: I have some documentaries to direct that are in the

1018
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 5: pipeline right now. But there's something about telling true stories

1019
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: that feels really safe to me and feels like I'm

1020
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 5: not manipulating anybody, like, because I think we were manipulated

1021
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 5: so much on sets that really stuck with me, and

1022
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 5: so in documentary, making sure that we are really like

1023
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 5: trying to uncover the truest version of the truth because

1024
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 5: everybody has a different truth. That feels that's safe, that's better. Yeah,

1025
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 5: we should just do documentaries on our characters, but like

1026
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 5: they're real people, like remember those MTV documentaries?

1027
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, true life totally.

1028
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: I think that you should consider at some point doing

1029
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: a film or short film or something that's that is fictionalized,

1030
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: because you do have such a strong grasp on reality,

1031
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 3: the way that reality looks and feels on camera, probably

1032
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: because you're watching documentaries all the time.

1033
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 4: It's like just in your in your blood.

1034
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, if you're not doing anything, I'm heavily involved

1035
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 5: with the middle school production of A Midsummer Night's Dream, So.

1036
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: You know, Julie ta more look Out.

1037
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 4: Razzle dazzle. Uh.

1038
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird how we all were groomed to do

1039
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 5: the same job as kids, and how that that changes.

1040
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 5: Everybody takes that one ball of clay and they turn

1041
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 5: it into different stuff as we grow up, and that's cool,

1042
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, and directing yourself sounds like a nightmare.

1043
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 5: It's awful, awful, Kate, why'd you bring it up? So

1044
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 5: honorable mention? Like, what did we love? Because I for

1045
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 5: all of the stuff.

1046
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: That we're like, this is weird, this is weird, this

1047
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: is weird. I did really like this episode you did.

1048
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: I liked don I thought she was great. I would

1049
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: give my honorable mention to her or b J Britt.

1050
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 3: Actually there was something really like cool about I mean,

1051
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 3: he made me want to come back for more of him.

1052
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,959
Speaker 3: So anytime somebody makes me want to come back for more,

1053
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 3: I'm in.

1054
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 4: I'd give my honorable mention to you Hill that that

1055
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 4: reveal in the beginning that it's not cancer, it's a baby.

1056
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: I loved it. I loved it.

1057
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 3: That's good.

1058
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 4: You know, we all have, like Peyton, a sad trauma,

1059
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: and I was so it was so happy and then

1060
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 4: you were just like bumbling and overjoyed, and I loved it.

1061
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, this, I needed that. I needed

1062
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 4: a misdirect from like fear to happiness.

1063
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 5: Well, guess what, guys, the pendulum's going to swing back

1064
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 5: in the other direction and you are going to be

1065
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 5: all happy, perky, everything's great, and Peyton's will be like, dude.

1066
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 5: So we had our break.

1067
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 4: This is the top of the mountain.

1068
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 5: I really liked these little kids talking to each other.

1069
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 5: The only other time we've had real little kid action

1070
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: is when we had little Dan and little Keith hanging

1071
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 5: out in the tree.

1072
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 3: It was so creepy graveyard. Yeah.

1073
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 4: No, this was like earnest. This was loving.

1074
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 5: Our fan base had all become parents. They were like yeah, yeah,

1075
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 5: and I that it meant it's a break from the sexy,

1076
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: it's a break from the violence. It meant that the

1077
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,959
Speaker 5: powers that be were saying, this softer dynamic is valuable, and.

1078
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope it grows.

1079
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nice, even though they were afraid of it,

1080
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: so they had to put it in an episode with

1081
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: lots of ridiculous violence.

1082
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 5: Can you imagine the little boy that plays Quentin's little

1083
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 5: brother Andre, and he's like, classmates, I'm in this.

1084
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: Episode of One Tree Hill. You should watch it.

1085
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 5: And everyone in the second grade at his school is

1086
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: watching pistol whip someone like. It's not the elementary school

1087
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 5: watch party.

1088
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: It's just spin a wheel, we do.

1089
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 4: We have to spin the wheel? All right? What if

1090
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 4: we just say whatever it is. We don't know what

1091
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 4: it is yet, but whatever it is, it's Millie.

1092
00:57:52,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, it's yeah, most likely to be a contestant

1093
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: on Jeopardy that is Milly one hundred yeah, and maybe

1094
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: Lisa in real life.

1095
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 5: Honestly, yes, the flowers this episode, poor Milly. We still

1096
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 5: believe in you. We don't think you're a slut. We've

1097
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 5: done worse.

1098
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 3: No, not at all, although sof actually you really should

1099
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 3: be on Have you done like a celebrity Jeopardy or anything?

1100
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 5: Yet?

1101
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 3: No, come on, thank you. I would pay money to

1102
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 3: see that front row. I would be right there so

1103
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: you can do it. You'd kill it. You'd be amazing.

1104
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 3: Next episode, Season six, episode fourteen, A Hand to take

1105
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 3: Hold of the scene.

1106
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 4: That's a weird one.

1107
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: All right, folks, We'll see you next week. Hey, thanks

1108
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 3: for listening.

1109
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 4: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1110
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: follow us on Instagram at Drama Queen's ot.

1111
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 5: Or email us at Drama Queens at iHeartRadio dot com.

1112
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: See you next time.

1113
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: We all about that high school drama Girl, Drama Girl,

1114
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: all about them high.

1115
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: School queens forever.

1116
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: We'll take you for a ride. And our comic girl

1117
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 4: cheering for the right teams.

1118
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 2: Drama Queens, Leise my girl, up girl.

1119
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 4: Fashion, which your tough girl?

1120
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 1: You could sit with us Girl Drama Queens, Drama Queens

1121
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: Drama Queens, Drama Drama Queens Drama Queens