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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verbal Come that for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy.

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Speaker 4: You want to be happy? For day A to state?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Whoom?

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Speaker 2: Whoom? And now down and tie.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls.

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Speaker 2: My name is Ty Hildebrandt.

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Speaker 1: Joining me is always over there in Springy.

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Speaker 2: New York City. Dan rubistein, sir, how are you, Ty?

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Speaker 4: I have a business proposition for you and for us

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Speaker 4: and for solid verbal media. Ooh ooh, now hold on pause, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: is this my long running, greatest idea ever of starting

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Speaker 4: we can't build businesses solely to satisfy you're telling you

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Speaker 4: this would work, but it's not fully far off from that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So you saw the news story that dominated the headlines,

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Speaker 4: tangentially related to college football but not really with college

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Speaker 4: coaches and administrators in on a scheme with sat people

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Speaker 4: and wealthy parents who are trying to get their kids

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Speaker 4: into USC or Yale or Stanford. These these bigger, more interesting,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're more interesting, but more prestigious

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Speaker 2: Right, Aunt Becky ensnared in that one.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and Felicity Huffman, and part of the scheme involved

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Speaker 4: using college sports teams as ways for these kids to

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Speaker 4: oh their prospects, their recruits. We're not going through the

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Speaker 4: normal student avenue to apply to get into USC or

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Speaker 4: Stanford or Yale or Georgetown or any of these schools.

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Speaker 4: We're going to try and apply as a prospective student

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Speaker 4: athlete and therefore bypass the normal channels and have a

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Speaker 4: coach say yes, except this person. They are somebody I'm

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Speaker 4: interested in. And because these sports are not necessarily scholarship sports,

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Speaker 4: and you know it's more difficult with a sport like

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Speaker 4: football or basketball.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, I got you until.

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Speaker 4: The solid verbal comes around and gives credibility to whoever

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Speaker 4: needs it as a college football recruit on whatever level.

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Speaker 4: Just very casually saying, hey, Ty, did you see uh

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Speaker 4: Ian uh Ian Fingelson is a pretty interesting h back

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Speaker 4: out of luth min is sod?

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Speaker 1: Did you realize that this will be exhibit A in

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Speaker 4: What I will say is it was all a joke. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it was all a timely joke that works. And so

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Speaker 4: because people know we are largely full of nonsense on

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Speaker 4: this show, sure they will ignore this very seriousness wink

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Speaker 4: problem with football is that, especially at big schools, everybody

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Speaker 4: knows the recruits. Everybody knows the pretty substantial You have.

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Speaker 1: Thought an all star for about this, haven't you? I'm

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Speaker 1: picking this up here. You've really spent some time thinking

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Speaker 4: Ty, I've got a kid now. College isn't getting any cheaper.

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Speaker 4: Diapers aren't cheap. Sports media isn't what he used to

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Speaker 4: It is not, It really isn't. So what I am

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Speaker 4: we are, actually, Yes, what I am always play a

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Speaker 2: This is this is one hundred percent true.

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Speaker 4: We have ears tie. I'm just it's probably too late.

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Speaker 4: It is now, it is too late.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think the jig maybe up, the maybe up.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is the second Remember Napster tried to go again. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He is Dan.

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Speaker 4: We have Bruce Feldman, who has been on this show

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Speaker 1: On that note, Daniel did an interview with our good

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Speaker 4: And with that we now bring in our long, long time,

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Speaker 4: Are you in any other mediums right now?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: That is it.

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Speaker 4: I am glad to have done it. Here's my question

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Speaker 4: What's the number one amenity you need? Is it a gym?

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Speaker 4: How'd you do Marie?

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to football before you talk about

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Speaker 4: We will attack this randomly, and so I don't select teams.

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Speaker 3: First number is eight.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't be, though, I mean, I would say anything

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Speaker 3: swings the other way. You know. I think the road

439
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: schedule is not n easy. They got to go, you know,

440
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Speaker 3: even those teams that I mentioned. And by the way,

441
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 3: Cal has held them to less than ten points a

442
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Speaker 3: game since Justin Wilcox has been the head coach though

443
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: last two years. Yeah, So I don't know. I'm just

444
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Speaker 3: I looked at the over under on the seat and

445
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: win total, and I don't think Washington State's gonna I

446
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: think they're gonna take a little.

447
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Speaker 4: Bit here, all right, A number between one through twelve,

448
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: not number twelve or number eight, number one, number one,

449
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: Let's talk USC. See we waited till the third team

450
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 4: to talk USC. That's how democratic this is. And after

451
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Speaker 4: last year ended and with how the offseason has gone,

452
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Speaker 4: is there a sense that USC's twenty nineteen potential is

453
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Speaker 4: maybe the word is capped or is there hope USC

454
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 4: can almost overachieve with a downpack twelve and still a

455
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 4: considerable talent advantage most of the time.

456
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Speaker 3: If you're USC, overachieving is going to the playoff in

457
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Speaker 3: this case, Okay, I mean, I know they won five games,

458
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 3: but you still have better talent than anybody in your

459
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: division at least. And they have three young players in

460
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: there at all three levels on the defense who I know?

461
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: You know people? I was at the up all combat

462
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 3: two weeks ago and there are three guys were mentioned.

463
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: They're all like freshman or last year. They have talent.

464
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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see how the Graham Herald transition without

465
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 3: a Lion coach, full line coach, who is you know

466
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: he brought or has familiarity in the scheme they have.

467
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: They have really good receivers. Their offensive line has been disappointing.

468
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: I think they will be better with the Graham Herald there,

469
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: but I and they'll have more of an identity. But

470
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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're going to be more than

471
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Speaker 3: an eight win team. Do you look at that first

472
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Speaker 3: six games they have, it's rough. And if they're three

473
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Speaker 3: and three and there's a blowout or two in there,

474
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Speaker 3: which is entirely possible, and you look who they play,

475
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: they can pull the plug on Clay help and try

476
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 3: to get a head start on the coaching search. So

477
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not optimistic. I think I think

478
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Speaker 3: eight to four is probably about as high as I'll

479
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Speaker 3: go with that group.

480
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Speaker 4: Is their belief do you think among the players in

481
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Speaker 4: this coaching staff, obviously externally fans administrators, the belief is

482
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: sort of wavering in the Clay Hilton staff. But do

483
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Speaker 4: the players still buy in?

484
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Speaker 3: Uh, that's a great question. I don't know what the

485
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Speaker 3: real answer on that is. I guess we'll find out.

486
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Speaker 3: I mean, from what I had heard before the start

487
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: of spring spring football was that they had that some

488
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 3: of the kind of message board kind of panic that

489
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 3: you would usually have, that some of that has kind

490
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: of seeped into the football building. And because you'd have

491
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: kids in the go into the transfer portal and some

492
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 3: of the other the other angst started to mount. So

493
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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's that's the challenge is who who

494
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Speaker 3: is the leadership and how strong is that there inside

495
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Speaker 3: the locker room. I mean, people are going to be

496
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: people are gonna be curious to see what's going on

497
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 3: because there's gonna be all kinds of rumblings about when

498
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: you're on such a hot seat there. But the leadership, BOYD,

499
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 3: is real inside the USC.

500
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Speaker 4: All right, let's stay in LA. I'll make you pick

501
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Speaker 4: another number. But you feel like going into last year,

502
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 4: you on this show talked about the Bruins just playe

503
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: not having an even decent roster of Pac twelve caliber players.

504
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: So how much closer are the Bruins now to having that?

505
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Speaker 4: And overall do you believe this is what this is

506
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Speaker 4: what Chip Kelly envisioned, what you know, what would they

507
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Speaker 4: would look like between year one and year two?

508
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Speaker 3: I think they are. They are closer to being a

509
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Speaker 3: I think they're probably a Bowl team now, okay, and

510
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Speaker 3: I think they're probably a seven win team. I don't

511
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: think they have a ton of talent there, but they

512
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: have pretty much everybody back on defense except for a

513
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: Darius Pickett, who is a really good solid safety, and

514
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: they got back They're going to get back Josh Woods,

515
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: who might have been their best player, but he missed

516
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: all last year with injury. They have a lot of

517
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: young guys in the D line fit what they want.

518
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: I think they're still probably not ready those players, but

519
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: at least they have guys who have experienced in the

520
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: system and they know what what Kelly and that staff want,

521
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 3: not just on the field, but in every aspect of

522
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: being UCLA football players. I think Dorian Thompson Robinson, he's

523
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: talented and everything I've heard has been very positive of

524
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: how he's how he continues to develop there. So I

525
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: mean that's a big plus. As far as the skill

526
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: guys to Saint Oregon, they do not have dynamic change,

527
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: game changing guys, you know they have. They have a

528
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: couple of guys who can do some you know one

529
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: thing really well. Has Allen, who is I think Kelly's

530
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: first recruit there. He's a He's a small freshman who's

531
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Speaker 3: got a ton of speed, but I think you know

532
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: that expression, he's a track guy, not a football player

533
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: of vice versa. I mean at this point, it feels

534
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: like he's a track guy, and so you know, where

535
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: does where does that? Joshua Kelly in our game we

536
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: did the USC UCLA game. He ran for almost three

537
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Speaker 3: hundred yards against against USC. He's a former one double

538
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Speaker 3: way back. It wasn't like he was a great running

539
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: back in the one double A level, but he did

540
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: some nice things and they got better in the last

541
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Speaker 3: month of the season. I mean, you look, they average

542
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: almost five hundred yards a game in the last month

543
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: of the season and like three thirty or three fifty

544
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 3: in the first two months. So I clearly shows there

545
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: they're kind of getting a better graph of what this

546
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: version of Chip Kelly is doing as opposed to you know,

547
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people remember from the Oregon

548
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: days and he's done. He does, you know, some things

549
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: a little bit differently scheme wise, but you know, again,

550
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: the personnel is still not great. I mean I would

551
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: guess that their personnel they don't have any running back

552
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: like JJ Taylor. They don't have the receivers that USC has,

553
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 3: and they don't have the physicality on both lines and

554
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: the maturity that Utah has. So you know, I think

555
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 3: they're probably right now I think they go through three

556
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: wins to maybe seven. You know, maybe they can get

557
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: to eight. I don't know. But I think the key

558
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: thing with him more than anything is development and guys

559
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: who understand and believe in what they're doing. And I

560
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: think that's when the transition has kind of been, you know,

561
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 3: take us two steps forward, one step back in some ways.

562
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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to Oregon. Then, because it's obviously

563
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: Chips former school. The Ducks will get they'll get a

564
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 4: lot of top of conference attention because of Justin Herbert

565
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: and recent recruiting. But to what extent are you? Are

566
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Speaker 4: you a believer and the rest of this team and

567
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 4: this coaching staff as conference contender, Oh, this is gonna

568
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 4: be good. This is the literation conference contender caliber, especially

569
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: when they when they like face planted last year. They

570
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: really face planted in those first halfs against Wazoo in

571
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Speaker 4: Arizona and Utah.

572
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, look, they have good frontline talent. I

573
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 3: think they're still building up the depth. They're gonna miss

574
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Dylan Mitchell. They had one really good receiver and he

575
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 3: was it. I think they're going to be really good

576
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: on the offensive line. That's a big plus. I like

577
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert as a as a guy. I think he's,

578
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: you know, a great student. Off the field, He's got

579
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: a lot of talent. I you know, you wonder if

580
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: he's gotten you know, when people talk about him as

581
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: the first pick in the draft part if he will

582
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: come in. I'm a little skeptical of that. I don't think,

583
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't see I don't see that at

584
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: this point. Defensively, they're okay, you know, I like the

585
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: hire of Andy Abolos, who did really well at Boise State. Well,

586
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: here's what concerns me about Oregon. I think Oregon is

587
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 3: the top twenty team. But here's what concerns me about them.

588
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: They were not a good team on the road land

589
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: you love. You know, they get drilled at Pullman, they

590
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: get absolutely smashed by a very mediocre Arizona team. They

591
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: get beat at Utah. That's not good. I mean basically

592
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: the only place they went to that they won it

593
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: was core Ballast. That isn't a far trip. And I'm

594
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: sorry they did win. You know, they did win a

595
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: cow so.

596
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: I won a col Yeah, that's not that.

597
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that that part concerns me, especially when you

598
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: look at now where they have to go, you know, like, yeah,

599
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: Washington State was a pretty good team last year, but

600
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: but Arizona wasn't and they got blown out there. I

601
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: mean they lost at Utah. That's not an easy place

602
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 3: to play. But now you're talking about, you know, having

603
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: to go to Washington, having to go to Stamford. Those

604
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: are not going to be those are not going to

605
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: be easy trips. So and they have a tough opener.

606
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: But right now I'm pump the brakes on Oregon. I

607
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: think they're a top fifteen ish kind of team. I

608
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: don't know if they're more than that. Until they showed

609
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: that they can they can really do it on the road,

610
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 3: I think that's right.

611
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that all sounds that. It sounds reasonable, And

612
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 4: we can then talk about a team that has had

613
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: a higher ceiling recently in Washington Oregon's i think chief

614
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: rival at this point until Oregon State sort of gets

615
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 4: back to a more respectable level. And even with losing

616
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 4: what they lost this year, especially on defense, they've built

617
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: a wrecking crew on that side of the ball. It's

618
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: consistent coaching and recruiting. Why has the offense struggled to

619
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: keep up is you know, they've built up the experience

620
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 4: was it was it just sort of a Jake Browning

621
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: has a ceiling and he is going to have two

622
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: and a half total dud games every year, and that's

623
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 4: that's sort of that. Is there something beyond that?

624
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment. I think you

625
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: also had Bush Hampden kind of growing into the role

626
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: as a play caller there as offensive coordinator. I think

627
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: the receiver play was pretty underwhelming. We'll see if Junior

628
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: Adams comes in highly touted, what kind of impact he

629
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: can make with a younger group of receivers. They've red

630
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: shirted some kids who are very hyped. We'll see if

631
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: they can deliver. They're One of the bigger storylines on

632
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: the West Coast is going to be Jacob Eason, who

633
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: was once ranked five star. Is he that or is

634
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: he the guy some some folks inside the Georgia program

635
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: are a little skeptical.

636
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 4: Of what do you think.

637
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm not you know, I'm I don't. I'm not sure

638
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: he's going to be the five star guy. You know,

639
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: I think some of the things, some of the things

640
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 3: that the people inside Georgia or Leiria are the kinds

641
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: of things that I feel like the recruiting guys may

642
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: not see which is how well does he how well

643
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: does he find open receivers? How accurate is he? I mean,

644
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: no doubt, he's legit, big six', five and he's got

645
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 3: a really really strong. Arm but if he can't connect

646
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: with open receivers and see and see defense as, well

647
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: that great arm isn't going to help him that, much you.

648
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: Know AND i feel like the expectations are really really,

649
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: high AND i would be a little more cautious on.

650
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: That they also Lost Miles, gastrin who's the all time

651
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 3: leading rusher. There SO i still think they're probably the

652
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: best team on The West coast BECAUSE i think that,

653
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: defensively even with the secondary guys they, lost they've recruited

654
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Speaker 3: so well on the back, end AND i still think

655
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656
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680
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657
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,360
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658
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,479
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659
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 3: defense as long as he's you, know, There AND i

660
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: think they have really good personnel and they have an identity.

661
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: There they should be pretty good on THE o, Line

662
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Speaker 3: SO i, think you, KNOW i think they have. Enough it's,

663
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Speaker 3: just you, know if they're going to be a team

664
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665
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667
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668
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669
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00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:04,759
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Speaker 4: Com another team without firepower and it's it's heartbreaking to

713
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: watch them because the defense has been so good recently

714
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: and has been good Against washington Is cal and they're

715
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: another team With they just need the offense to be

716
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: average to win more games because that, defense especially the back,

717
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: end has been so. Good so are you buying at

718
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: all into cal offensive improvement or is it just a

719
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: matter of they need to they need to have at

720
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: least like eleven fourteen more dudes that are HIGH pac

721
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: twelve caliber until we can really talk About cal as

722
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 4: like an.

723
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Team, YEAH i think they're well. COACHED i. DON'T i

724
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: just don't think you SAID i don't think they have the, firepower, right,

725
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: now they don't have enough. Receivers they don't Have like

726
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: a couple of years, ago when you, Know Sonny dykes

727
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: was there And Jake staviogal was, there they had some

728
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: really good young. Receivers they don't have that right, now

729
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: and quarterback plays been. LIMITED i think they're going to

730
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: Miss Patrick, laird who is very solid for the last

731
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: couple of. Years you, KNOW i THOUGHT i thought they'd

732
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: gotten about as much out of their roster as anybody

733
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: on The West, coast with a possible exception Of Washington.

734
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: State you, KNOW i just And i'm not SURE i

735
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: see it going up much more than. THAT i, mean

736
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 3: are we looking and, saying, okay you, know you, Know

737
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: Chase garber's Or Devin mobster are going to turn out

738
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 3: to be you, Know Gardner. Minshew i'm not seeing. THAT i,

739
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 3: mean SO i don't know at this. POINT i, MEAN

740
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: i think they'll be they'll be, competitive and they'll be

741
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: tough for they'll be but you, know the have a

742
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 3: pull a couple of. Upsets BUT i think they'll probably

743
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: a six or seven win. Team JUST i just don't

744
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: think they have enough firepower to be much more than.

745
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: That all, right and a team with and it's been

746
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 4: a while since we've been at this, Point but the

747
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 4: clear best receiver in The pac twelve Is Laviska. CHANALT

748
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: i don't even know if anybody can argue. THAT i

749
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 4: don't know who.

750
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: CAN i would say he's the clear best player offensive

751
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: player in the.

752
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: League, YEAH i THINK i think that's a there's a

753
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: pretty easy argument to be. Made and they finished the

754
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: SEASON i think AVERAGING i want to, say thirteen points

755
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: a game in their last three or four. Games and

756
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: now they start over with a new, staff Mel, tucker

757
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: do you lean in the direction Of colorado being re

758
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: energized with health and good experience back on offense With

759
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: chanalt And Steven montes or is it sort of like

760
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 4: a take your lumps kind of year with another it's

761
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: a pretty brutal back half of twenty.

762
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: Nineteen, YEAH i THINK i think Mel tucker will will

763
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: be a Good and WHEN i say short term, SIX

764
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: i don't mean he's going to fall apart two years from.

765
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 3: Now BUT i just think he can hit the ground.

766
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: Running Because, montez there's a lot to like there in

767
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: a consistency sometimes is, shaky but he's very. TALENTED i

768
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 3: LIKE i SAID i Think channel is the most is

769
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: the best offensive player in the, league and, Uh Katie

770
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: nixon is a IS a is a really good you,

771
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: know he's a fire plug and a really dynamic. Player

772
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: they have concern because you, know they get a Grad

773
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: france for the last year From Virginia tech who really

774
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: gave a boost to the run, game and now they got,

775
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: to you, know resort that out AND i Think Meal

776
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 3: tucker is going to want to be. Physical AND i

777
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: don't know how he finds that run game to what

778
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: he's been used, to whether when he was In TUSCO

779
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: us certainly you know the last couple of years In

780
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: georgia where they had stud running. Backs they have some

781
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: talent on, Defense they have some guys who can really.

782
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: RUN i don't know if they have much depth behind,

783
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: it BUT i think there are some pieces for him

784
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: to work. WITH i think they're Their bowl, team, okay

785
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: BUT i don't. Know you, know, AGAIN i Like Stephen,

786
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 3: montes but they got to help him more with a run.

787
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: GAME i don't know where they how they manufacture. That

788
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: so maybe they're maybe they're a six and six kind of,

789
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: team unless somewhere along the way they find like a

790
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: stud to kind of really take some of the pressure

791
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: off of off Of La. Visca AND i, mean LIKE i,

792
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: said they have some otherwide receivers are good, players BUT

793
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: i just don't know if they can you, know it

794
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: feels like they'd be a little more one. DIMENSIONAL i

795
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: don't Want Stephen montes to be the biggest threat in

796
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: the backfield running either or on the jet sweep stuff

797
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: whatever they do in the riscame.

798
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: Right fair another player WHO i think has the potential

799
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 4: to be the best player in the conference offensively because

800
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: of what he did two years. Ago it's probably Still khalil.

801
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 4: Tape he decides to come back To arizona after there

802
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: are rumors of him transferring, elsewhere and the story last

803
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: year was how comfortably is he is he in this?

804
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 4: Offense is how beat up is? He you, know there

805
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: were rumors of injuries and he did sit out a.

806
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: Game so do you think there's there's confidence from the

807
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: coaching staff after he didn't transfer that he's turned a,

808
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: corner especially after he had a really Good november last.

809
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: YEAR i heard there, was but, again you, know we

810
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: need to see him be really dynamic and, look these

811
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: are the things that made you, great don't diminish them

812
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: LIKE i. SAID i, mean you, KNOW Jj taylor is

813
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 3: just fantastic running. Back they have some some playmakers around.

814
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: Him if he's the guy he was in twenty, seventeen

815
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: they're a top twenty five. Team if he plays like

816
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: he did in the first month of the, season they're

817
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: not going to go. Gold so, again what does he

818
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 3: want to? Do AND i don't have a great read

819
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: on that BECAUSE i don't until we see what he's

820
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: doing in the games and how you, know dialed into.

821
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: That that's a that's a, big BIG x factor for.

822
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 3: That you, know they're such a hard team to. READ

823
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 3: i think because of you, Know, kevin someone's had some

824
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: great runs with guys like this and then he's you,

825
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 3: know had some head scratching moments and this is WHERE

826
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: i don't know where they're going to be right.

827
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 4: Now that's all that seems. FAIR i JUST i really

828
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: want twenty Seventeen khalil, tape just because we don't have

829
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: anybody else right now in college football who is that

830
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: kind of dynamic threat at his. Best.

831
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: NO i mean that's the, thing is you wonder with

832
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: somebody in his head, saying, hey don't do it this.

833
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: WAY i don't know the answer to, that but it

834
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: was definitely definitely a little bit of it. That, okay

835
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 3: it was a big.

836
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: Disappointment so let's stay in. STATE asu was they were

837
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: actually quietly pretty good down the stretch they ran away From.

838
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 4: UTAH i think that was When Tyler huntley got.

839
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: Hurt.

840
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: Though they Took oregon to the wire And. Eugene but

841
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: as we as we enter into year two of this,

842
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: staff do you expect things to lean? Again this is

843
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: the lump thing THAT i was talking about With, colorado

844
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 4: but this is year. Two do they take lumps after

845
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: losing some some really Big Todd graham, guys or or

846
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: do they build on their strong finish with some interesting

847
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 4: pieces on the back half of that. DEFENSE i don't.

848
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean Many wilkins played a ton of football for, Them,

849
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: Obviously Nikhil harry was just a real go to. Guy

850
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: hm they still, have you, Know, BENJAMIN i feel. Weird you,

851
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: Know i'm saying it's just BECAUSE i wasn't on The

852
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: herm bandwagon to start, with and he delivered better THAN

853
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: i thought he.

854
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 4: Did they were really competitive all.

855
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: Year they, were and they Beat Michigan, state which was

856
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: a good, win maybe not a great win and repspract

857
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: but it was about as good an out of conference

858
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: win as anybody else. HAD i don't. KNOW i don't

859
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: know if they're going to get much, better, THOUGH i really.

860
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: Don't i'm Still, county still skeptical on.

861
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: This, okay and that team that they did beat Comfortably.

862
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 4: Utah they come out of the gate last year scoring

863
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: like eight points a, game and then they score something

864
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 4: like forty a game In, october and then it was

865
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 4: a nightmare Against washington And. Northwestern they are the most

866
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 4: consistently pretty good team in the. Conference are they getting

867
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: any closer to that on offense, now especially that they

868
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: lose their offensive. COORDINATOR i think they.

869
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: ARE i think they're the closest thing to a sure,

870
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: thing not necessarily sure, thing like they're going to win the,

871
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: conference but like, YOU i feel like you know what you're.

872
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: Getting they have key, injuries and they still kind of

873
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: play through because because they're so tied into his identity

874
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 3: of being. Physical bradley AND i is one of the

875
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: best defensive, line best defensive players in the. Conference they're

876
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 3: going to lose some good guys in the middle of

877
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 3: the defense who could run down a bunch of plays

878
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: and make. Plays BUT i still think with, them and,

879
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: again you, know they had key injuries at quarterback and

880
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 3: running back and they still played for the conference title

881
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: and we're right there Against washington and they were close

882
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: to winning. It SO i think they're the. Team And

883
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: i've said this before just from when you do games

884
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: and you're on the sideline for, games there is no

885
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: team is more of an eye opener to watch play

886
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: Than utah if you just kind of, like, OH i

887
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 3: don't know how they, winning un your good coach on

888
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 3: how he does. It when you see him from field,

889
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: level you know exactly how they do it because they're super.

890
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: Physical they don't they're a good tackling, team and they're

891
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 3: pretty much tougher than just about everybody they. Play so you,

892
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: know If Tyler, huntley who does some really good, things

893
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: if he really can stay healthy and continue to build on,

894
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: it they, can and not only can they play for

895
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: they're a top fifteen, team then you know THEY i

896
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: don't know if they're more than, that but AGAIN i

897
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 3: think THEY'RE i think they're very very good AND i

898
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: think they'll be very very. Good.

899
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 4: Again final team Is Oregon, state whose limitations are pretty.

900
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: Clear but what are the positive takeaways from a pretty

901
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,959
Speaker 4: brutal twenty eighteen and are are any of those meaningful moving?

902
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: Forward Jamar Jefferson. Yep probably the best kept secret on

903
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: The West. Coast there's a there's a defense CORTERNATY i

904
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: talked to you about about talent and he was, LIKE i,

905
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: said who's the best running back you? Saw And Jamar

906
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: jefferson's name came. Up he's big time and that's a

907
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: good piece For Jonathan smith to. Build he's had a

908
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: couple of grad transfers WHO i think will help. Them you,

909
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 3: KNOW i think they're they're going to get. BETTER i

910
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: don't know how, much how much further they're going to?

911
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: Go you, know can they push past What cal? Is

912
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: and that's a that's a pretty heavy division right. NOW

913
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: i MEAN i know that That it's not like there's

914
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: An alabama right now in there where you have a

915
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: consistent playoff. Team But washington's very. GOOD i think you

916
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: look at How Mario Crysto ball is recruiting At oregon

917
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 3: now and you know that they're going to have. Talent

918
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: they're going to be. Good stanford's not going. Away Mike

919
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: leach is always going to be a, problem AND i

920
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 3: Think Justin wilcock just showed you know that a. Coach

921
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: so here we are, NOW i, mean you have a

922
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: really good running. Back what are the other pieces you have?

923
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 3: AROUND i don't. Know is that is that? ENOUGH i

924
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: DON'T i don't out at this.

925
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: Point, man it doesn't seem like it, now but could

926
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 4: be interesting. Later big, picture this has been an off

927
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: season in the conference that has been characterized by some

928
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: combination of disappointment and perceived. Disappointment you know is The

929
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: Big series and The oregonian About Larry scott AND pac

930
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: twelve expenses and they're not winning, enough And Rick newheisel

931
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 4: says it's because they're not enough three hundred and twenty

932
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 4: pound dudes that are. Good where do you fall? On

933
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 4: the sky is? Falling It's defcon. One THE pac twelve

934
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: has a nightmare on its. Hands are you are you

935
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 4: fully bought into an emergency situation or do you think

936
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: it is slightly?

937
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: DIFFERENT i think it's slightly, different AND i think that

938
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: there are there is enough dey line than in THE

939
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: pac twelve footprint to be as good as you need to.

940
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 3: Be the key is recruiting the right ones and not losing. That.

941
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: NO i Mean, lsu a guy From Salt Lake city

942
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: that one of the coaches in THE pac twelve told

943
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: me things might be the best defensive tackle in the.

944
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: Country you got to win that refruiting battle and keep him.

945
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 3: In maybe maybe three years, ago that kid's A usc.

946
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: Trojan now he's An Lsu. Tiger you. Know he's six

947
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: three two two six three three, sixty really explosive and.

948
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: Physical and that's the kind of guy that you need

949
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: to keep in the, conference you. Know AND i think

950
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: so those are those are. SIGNIFICANT usc has some of

951
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: those kinds of guys that are they just have they

952
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: don't have enough of, them and they have struggled to

953
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: develop them or keep them on, track, Right AND i

954
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: think that's what's, hurt you. KNOW i mean the uh

955
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: there's two guys who start for The SAN francoo forty

956
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: nine ers defensive line who are as good, looking, deep you,

957
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: know specimens as you're going to. See they both played At, oregon,

958
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: right you, know where's where's A Lote nata?

959
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 4: From?

960
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean you have where's Dmkan su? From those

961
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: guys they didn't grow up In. Georgia i'm not saying

962
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: there aren't guys like, that Because lord, knows there's a

963
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: ton of guys like that in The. Southeast but there's

964
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: there's plenty of those guys who are in all over

965
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 3: The West. Coast there's a bunch In, california there's a

966
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: bunch of In, utah there's a handful in The Pacific.

967
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: NORTHWEST i mean the THING i would, say And i'm

968
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 3: curious to see your thought on. This, YEAH i feel

969
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: like the recruiting evaluator, guys AND i think they do

970
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: a good. Job we're talking about the online recruiting, world

971
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 3: not the, coaches BUT i think they do a good.

972
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: Job BUT i think they are usually more resourced in

973
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 3: The southeast and in that part of the country then

974
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: they're on The West, coast WHERE i feel like it's

975
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: It's Brandon, huffman It's Greg, biggins and there's a handful

976
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: of other, guys, RIGHT i feel like THEY i don't

977
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: know if they miss more on The West, coast but

978
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: Like Vita vea with a three star guy From milpitas In.

979
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: California you look At, VITAVEYA i mean he's a did

980
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 3: any defensive lineman who's, come you, know a big defensive.

981
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: LINE i don't think it's Overly Jadavian, clowney but you,

982
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: know he's a massive, guy who's a freaky, athlete who

983
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: is a dominant guy at times At. Washington but he

984
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: wasn't like a blue chip, recruit, Right, SO i mean

985
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 3: he's From. California those guys are. There it's just, AGAIN

986
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: i think it's it's it's keeping him in the. CONFERENCE

987
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: i really think it comes back to. That lord, knows

988
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: there's plenty of quarterbacks out here AND. USC i, MEAN

989
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 3: i mean there's very few schools have had anywhere near

990
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 3: is going to run or receivers AS usc has in

991
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 3: the last. Decade, right you, know it's Hug Smith, Schuster

992
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: It's Robert, Woods It's mark Peace, lee you, Know Nelson.

993
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 3: Aguilar there's a bunch of. Dudes the guys that have

994
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: now are. Good you, Know Michael pittman's. Good so you,

995
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 3: Know i'm On, Ross Saint brown is. Good there are

996
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: guys out. Here it's, just, uh it's JUST i, think you,

997
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: KNOW usc is tay off in a big. Way AND

998
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 3: i think that's highlighted.

999
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: It here's my big picture, thought AND i probably hurt myself,

1000
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 4: thinking AND i don't try to think too hard about college,

1001
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: football but WHEN i saw, THAT i thought it. Ignored

1002
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 4: WHEN i see that, CRITICISM i think it ignores some

1003
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 4: pretty obvious realities of THE pac. Twelve and one of

1004
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: them is IF usc Beats Washington state two years ago

1005
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 4: In pullman and makes it into the playoff at whatever

1006
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: twelve and one are we having this conversation if THE

1007
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 4: pac twelve has a premiere program on a national stage,

1008
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 4: consistently AND i Know washington was in the, playoff and

1009
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: this will come across bias BECAUSE i can't help but

1010
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 4: be biased as An oregon, FAN i think on The

1011
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: West coast because you are so far. Away unless you

1012
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: are a team who has been good and has built

1013
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: up goodwill amongst national college football fans for years and,

1014
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 4: years LIKE Us seed did Under Pete carroll And oregon

1015
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: did Under ballotti And Chip, kelly that it will take

1016
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: time for people to care about A West coast. Team

1017
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: and so If arizona runs the table this, YEAR i

1018
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 4: don't think anybody will care. Nationally If utah runs the,

1019
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 4: TABLE i don't think it will move a. Needle AND

1020
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: i Think washington And Washington state being. GOOD i think

1021
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 4: they both finished in the top twelve this past. YEAR

1022
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: i think people just don't care because they're not you,

1023
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 4: know people Know Mike, leach BUT i don't think they

1024
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 4: fully Trust Washington state because of how bad they were

1025
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 4: not too long. Ago AND i think they don't Trust

1026
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: washington because when we've seen them on that national, stage

1027
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 4: whether it's in the, playoff whether against it's Against, auburn

1028
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 4: whether it's Against Ohio state this, year whether it's AGAINST

1029
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 4: usc on that Big saturday night GAME i think that

1030
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 4: was On, fox they've always come up. Short AND i

1031
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 4: don't think there's trust. Yet and that short of Either

1032
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 4: oregon OR usc as a top five to seven, TEAM

1033
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 4: i think The pac twelve has a, really really tough.

1034
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: Climb but if they do have one of those, TEAMS

1035
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 4: i don't think anybody freaks.

1036
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: Out, Yeah AND i think that's it's hard to say,

1037
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: say but, right, look if if you, know If oregon

1038
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 3: doesn't lose in the last second field goal To, auburn

1039
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 3: you know there's a national title, there AND i think

1040
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: people do that change the. Perception, no BUT i think

1041
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 3: THERE'S i think there's little things because people can write

1042
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: off well that year That utah Beat alabama in a bowl.

1043
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 4: Game Well, alabama you, know they were A Mountain west

1044
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 4: team then, TOO i.

1045
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 3: Know BUT i mean it's still it's still you, know

1046
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: it's like people write that stuff off when it's like

1047
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: a one off or it's hard for, them you, know

1048
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: to get, around you, know the, reality because people are

1049
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: entirely going to believe what they want to, believe, right

1050
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: and those perceptions don't happen, overnight, right you, know like

1051
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 3: If i'm A Notre dame, fan like The orange has

1052
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 3: been really good except when they played you, know teams

1053
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 3: that are more talented and they've gotten absolutely. Pummeled, sure

1054
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 3: and that's you, know you can say whatever you, want

1055
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 3: but it's like it's a perception, game, Right and when

1056
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 3: you're a top, team which used to BE, ufc when

1057
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 3: they're not very, good you, know like you can knock

1058
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 3: like you can knock THE acc all you. Want right,

1059
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: Now clemson's is, good if not better than everybody. Else

1060
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: the rest of the. Division the rest of the conference

1061
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: doesn't look very, good but at least at the, top they're,

1062
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: strong and that's the stuff that people pay attention. To

1063
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 3: once you start sorting, out like how good or how,

1064
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: bad Like arkansas was horrible this. Year nobody really cared,

1065
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 3: though because you, know you have you have these other

1066
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: teams that are heavyweight. Teams you, Know it's like you

1067
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: very rarely have an argument whether Whether Oregon state Or

1068
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: arkansas Or minnesota Or rutgers are the worst. Team, Right

1069
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 3: it's it's about the top of the division and top

1070
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 3: of the. Conference AND i think that's where it. Hurts

1071
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 3: where like you, said some of The washington, games you,

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00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 3: know If Buddha baker picks Off jalen hurts at the

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00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: beginning of the playoff, Game, yeah it's that a different.

1074
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 3: Game now With, washington are they playing from the? Lead

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00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 3: is you know who? KNOWS i mean my guess is

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00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: it's probably not. Different but you, know one big play

1077
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 3: can make a big. Difference we've seen plenty of examples of.

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00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: That, Yeah AND i think if YOU i don't think

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00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 4: it's actually unique to THE pac. Twelve AND i still

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00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 4: think THE pac twelve has a number of distribution and

1081
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 4: network and perception issues regardless of the on field and

1082
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 4: the top of the. Conference BUT i don't think anybody you,

1083
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 4: know hearkens back to the day When Georgia tech Played

1084
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: Wake forest in THE acc championship. Game that was not

1085
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: a STRONG. Acc that was not a good time for

1086
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 4: THE acc because of what it looked like at the.

1087
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 4: Top if we see AN sec championship game OF i don't,

1088
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: Know missouri And, arkansas are we going to? Think, man

1089
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 4: THE sec is in a great. PLACE i don't feel

1090
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 4: like we're going To AND i just, think you, know

1091
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 4: the teams outside of THE pac, twelve the power, teams

1092
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: it's probably harder because of their their local talent to

1093
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 4: really fall like some of the team and THE pac twelve.

1094
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 4: Have BUT i don't think the dynamic of THE pac

1095
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 4: twelve having these issues is necessarily unique to THE pac.

1096
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 4: Twelve AND i think you're, right it's just what and

1097
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 4: who is at the.

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00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: Top, Yeah i'm that drives the BUS.

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00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: Yep all, Right, bruce thank you very much for your.

1100
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 4: Time everybody should listen to the audible With bruce And Stu,

1101
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: mandel who is a lot of people consider to be

1102
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 4: the most dangerous man in college football. MEDIA i can't

1103
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: say too much, why but don't Cross, Stu that's ALL

1104
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 4: i will.

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00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: Say, NO i, MEAN i don't think people Know stu

1106
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: has a black belt And brazilian jiu. Jitsu it would surprise.

1107
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 3: Them but that's why the most dangerous guy.

1108
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 4: You'll be on the sidelines this. Fall that's the. Plan

1109
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 4: that is the. Plan, yes that is the. Plan and

1110
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: obviously you are all over the place for in a

1111
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: good way for The. Athletic and really liked your piece

1112
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 4: about The alabama coaching staff just sort of disappearing in

1113
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 4: the middle of the night or at Least Dan, inos

1114
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: their offensive. Coordinator AND i really hope that we get

1115
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: to see more of you doing those types of stories

1116
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: all over the.

1117
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: COUNTRY i appreciate it that story That alabama coaching Staff

1118
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: saban transition story that got probably more ine twice as

1119
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 3: much Interests i've made any Story i've done in. Years

1120
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: so if people haven't read, it it's actually the thing

1121
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: That i've pinned on My twitter. Page so check it

1122
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: out if you, haven't AND i appreciate you saying.

1123
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: That Perfect all, right go go Follow Bruce fveldman On.

1124
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: Twitter it's very easy to find him and read. Him

1125
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: if you are not a subscriber To The, athletic you

1126
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: are one percent missing. OUT i just read a piece

1127
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: About Klay thompson's career At Washington state and oral history

1128
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 4: of all of his, weirdness and it's probably worth the

1129
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: subscription just for. That So, bruce thank you very much

1130
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: for your time and we will talk to you.

1131
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: Soon thank, You.

1132
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: Dan all, Right, dan we are.

1133
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: Back that Was Bruce felman again the Athletic Fox. SPORTS

1134
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: i enjoyed the conversation at the, Top, yeah talking about

1135
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: his opinion that his crew is in the best.

1136
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 4: Shape it's a PRETTY i, mean it's not a tough

1137
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: competition because there are just older former coaches and former

1138
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 4: players that it's going to be tough to hang with

1139
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 4: a younger crew when you Have Joe davis And Brady,

1140
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: quinn Although Brady quinn is now moving to the game

1141
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 4: day competitor That fox is doing mostly out of the.

1142
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 4: STUDIO i, think, okay which is an interesting.

1143
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: CONVERSATION i was trying to rack my brain for who

1144
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: might be better than, them AND i was really kind

1145
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: of coming up empty AS i was listening back to.

1146
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: THAT i, mean we have a very young play by

1147
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 4: play announcer who calls into the show or leaves a

1148
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: voice meal and that leads me to believe because we

1149
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 4: are so simpatico with food on the road that perhaps

1150
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 4: his first priority is not hitting the. Gym, yeah slim

1151
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: trim guy at. HIM i mean, sure but priority is

1152
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 4: elsewhere where it is for. Us so that was it

1153
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: was obviously great to Have bruce On what is your number?

1154
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: WELL i Asked bruce this too though with the gym.

1155
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: Stuff what is your number one amenity in a hotel?

1156
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: Room?

1157
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 4: Yeah so is it bed? Comfort is? It water pressure

1158
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: in the? Shower is its you, know size of the,

1159
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: room is it having a suite in? Space is?

1160
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: It CAN i get very CAN i get very super?

1161
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: Specific a bar by all, means my number one amenity

1162
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: is not going to be listed on any, Pamphlet. OKAY

1163
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: i prefer, well WiFi is always, important but that's like.

1164
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: Electricity at this. POINT i prefer a hotel room that

1165
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have outlandishly hard.

1166
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 4: Water, okay and that's very difficult to. Find and hard

1167
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 4: water is water that is extremely. Acidic what is? It

1168
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: it's the.

1169
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: Water that when you like hop in the shower and

1170
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: you soap yourself.

1171
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 4: Up, oh it's mineral.

1172
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: Content, yeah you feel like the water is sticking to

1173
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: you that, sure you know what you're, Talking that, grimy

1174
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: sticky feeling that you get when you use the water

1175
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: in a hotel, Oftentimes, yeah that's hard. WATER i like

1176
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: when you can come out of the shower feeling refreshed

1177
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: and not like you got to peel the water off.

1178
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 4: Yourself minor all water. Related it is that shower water.

1179
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 4: Pressure it is if there's an indoor pool. AVAILABLE i

1180
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: love that because living somewhere where winter can be particularly

1181
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 4: aggressive AND i don't get to go swim in a whole.

1182
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: BUNCH i love that. Ability don't really go in the

1183
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 4: hot tub too, much BUT i will happily do a

1184
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 4: quick sea ball into the pool and then just your

1185
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 4: your luxurious bed. TY i JUST i want to sink.

1186
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: In there's just something about a great hotel bed fun.

1187
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,479
Speaker 1: Interview thank you again to our Friend Bruce. Felman yep

1188
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: again the Athletic Fox.

1189
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: Sports did you just send an email to me AS

1190
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 4: i was talking about a? HOTEL i, Did, YEAH i.

1191
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: Did, actually my, gosh.

1192
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: Not about, that not about the show at, all unrelated

1193
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 1: business my, god.

1194
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: Bulletin, yeah SOMETIMES i feel like you just do not

1195
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: take me seriously on that.

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01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: Note, yeah thanks again To. Bruce we will be back next.

1197
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: WEEK i don't know what we'll do next. Week could

1198
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: do A q AND a next week could do another.

1199
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Autopsy we'll just have to figure that. Out write in

1200
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: let us know what you. Think we're On, Twitter, Facebook,

1201
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: instagram the email inbox is always out. There solid verbal

1202
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: at gmail dot. Com and one final tidbit that it

1203
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: would like to throw out. There, okay our Boy, Taylor

1204
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: oh Love, Taylor our Boy. Taylor he is the chief reverbs.

1205
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: Engineer he's been our trusted deputy for your molar is

1206
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: still on or formerly Of Redshell, radio all over The

1207
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: place Podcast. Extraordinary, yeah our good Friend Taylor swink gets

1208
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: married This.

1209
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: Saturday oh hell, yeah This.

1210
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: Saturday so WHAT i would ask Everybody it's not a secret,

1211
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: verbal per. SE i know where you're going with. This

1212
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: perhaps honeymoon sweet, yeah perhaps the least secret. Verbal BUT

1213
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: i want everyone out, there at a, minimum if you're On,

1214
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: twitter please write to ct schwink that's ct sc h

1215
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: W i N. K at a, minimum offer him some

1216
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: congratulations either before the, wedding after the, wedding what have,

1217
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: You and if you so, desire please offer him some

1218
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: wedding advice about you, know the, reception the, honeymoon, whatever

1219
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: anything that you can muster.

1220
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: Up wedding.

1221
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: Advice, wise send it to our boy Ct schwink, again

1222
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: trusted deputy of the show for a long, time one

1223
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: of our true, fans true supporters for, GOSH i can't

1224
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: even tell you how many. Years and we're happy for,

1225
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: Him we're excited for. Him it's a real cool thing

1226
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: that's about to go down in his. Life so please

1227
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: join in on the fund and offer him your.

1228
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: Support an incredibly important part of the solid verbal family

1229
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 4: of like four and a. Half absolutely shout Out, Taylor

1230
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 4: shout Out, courtney shout out to not wearing that Hideous

1231
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 4: maryland flag bow tie if he wore to The Chicago come, on,

1232
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 4: NO i mean at his. Wedding he should not be wearing,

1233
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: that you, know while exchanging. Vows but other than you

1234
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: wear it all the. Time, Otherwise, yeah give him some

1235
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 4: advice and let's hope for the best for. Them great.

1236
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Couple all, Right, well on that, note we will be

1237
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: back next. Week stay tuned in the meantime to the

1238
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: Soliverbal twitter, Feed, Facebook, instagram all the usual hotspots for

1239
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: that guy with, There Dan. Rubenstein my name Is ty Hilden.

1240
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: Brandt we will catch you all. Soon in the, meantime

1241
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,919
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your, week your weekend until next,

1242
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Time stay, soft, hey