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Speaker 1: Ron Andanian Diagnostics. It's a lot like Bollman if you

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Speaker 1: and verify its operation? Welcome to the radio home of

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Speaker 1: Ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car

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Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors

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Speaker 1: at eight five five six and now running. Well, well,

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Speaker 1: well look at this. Here we are again and it

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Speaker 1: looks like we got a lot to do this hour.

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Speaker 1: So let's get right to at Bob in Long Island

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Speaker 1: O five Honda c r V. How can I help you, sir?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? Ron, thank you for taking my call. Mar,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, what can I do for you? I've

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Speaker 1: then do we have ignition? Coil control? What sort of

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Speaker 1: what sort of tools do you have? You don't have

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Speaker 1: scope by chance, do you No? No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: do we have um you know, do we have hot?

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Speaker 1: Do we have ground? How do you know it's no spark?

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Speaker 1: How are you testing spark? Just out of curiosity? Well?

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Speaker 1: I have uh an inductive coil. Unplug it. Uh. I

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Speaker 1: Mike in Maine, how can I help you today, sir? House?

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Speaker 1: that's not bad. Ron. You know, I'm a firm believer

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Speaker 1: Do you know, nowhere in that book, which was probably

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Speaker 1: a claim first, sir? Well, how do I know if

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Speaker 1: bookkeeping errors? Uh? So, you know, Mike, I think the

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Speaker 1: Although I don't know that I'm getting as good as service,

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Speaker 1: time for you to get another car? In actuality, I

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Speaker 1: thought about it. I thought about updating it right right, right,

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Speaker 1: But the radio could be a thousand bucks right there?

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Speaker 1: five years? What do I always tell you? What have

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Speaker 1: I always taught you, guys, Hunter month to maintain a car? Right?

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Speaker 1: All right, you're you're you're consuming a court of oil

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Speaker 1: over to Mark in Virginia one fifty mark. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, How can I help? Yes, sir, Um,

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Speaker 1: would probably like to know that before the vehicle gets

425
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: stuck and you have downtime, and then the company loses

426
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: productivity for the guy on the road. So I say,

427
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: let's let's let's get it to the shop, check oil pressure,

428
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: take it for a ride. Duplicate the problem it's got

429
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: plenty of oil pressure. Let him put a sending unit

430
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: in it, and it's going to end all the confusion

431
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: and right away you'll know exactly what you've got to do,

432
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: all right, kiddo. But like I said, anytime it falls

433
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: below five p s, I that that that's going to happen,

434
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: just like they're describing. So good luck to you, Mark.

435
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: Let me know if you need more. I'm here for you.

436
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Let's get over to Pete in Michigan. Pete, welcome to

437
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey? Ron?

438
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: So glad I found you. Um. So, I've got a

439
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: Chevy Blazer with the V six UM four point three

440
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: Leader Portech. But my concerned with the brakes, and I

441
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: went through, replaced all the brakes and new lines in

442
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: the rear. It's got drums in the rear and disc

443
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: up front. Replaced the Master the break booster from and

444
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: I just bought the truck not too long ago. So

445
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: I figured, well, okay, new booster, new Master cylinder, the

446
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: combination valve got locked up, replaced that, replaced lines in

447
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: the back. So I'm doing great. So I started to

448
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: bleed everything out the rear bleeds just perfectly find no bubbles,

449
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: and I couldn't bleed the front And I literally went

450
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: through like two thirty two ounces of break lead oil

451
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get bubbles out of it. And and

452
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking about this Kelsey Hayes four ball system that

453
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: it has mounted to its driver's side inter fender, well,

454
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: and UM, I'm wondering if I got air into that. Um.

455
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: And I just don't really understand that that system, do you.

456
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: I bought a clip that's supposed to be coming soon

457
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: to depress the plunger. Yeah, yeah, but do I can

458
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: I bleed it like one side at a time because

459
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: that one tool is like thirty bucks, and I didn't

460
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: want to have to buy two of them. Just bleed

461
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: one side or the other. Let's let's let's let's start

462
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning, Pete. When you when you replace the

463
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: brakes on this, you changed all the lines, Uh No,

464
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: only the rears, Okay, So the front half of the

465
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 1: system is pretty much as you purchased it, yep, all

466
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: factory steel lines. And when you the drivers just rust

467
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: out on me, and I had a lot of fluid

468
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: come out of that All this time. I never had

469
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: the brake leg on. Now I have the brake line

470
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: on and I've got new lines coming, and I'm wondering

471
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: if that combination valve will just reset my brake leg

472
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: will go back off again. Well, if if you know

473
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: the combination valves a combination valve, if you think you've

474
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: got a combo valve that's you know, pinned in one direction,

475
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: open up a line on the opposite side and bleed it.

476
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: You know this, this is a good place where you're

477
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: gonna need to help her. Um, you know. Open up

478
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: the combination valve. Have somebody stroked the pedal, push fluid

479
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: out and it should push the prop valve in the

480
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: other direction. If that doesn't work, open up a line

481
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: on the other side of the prop valve. Push it

482
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: the other way, one way or the other. Should move

483
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: that valve inside the prop valve, the proportioning valve inside

484
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: the combination valve. But before we before we go there,

485
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: when you replay the master, tell me how you I'll

486
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: tell you what. Let's do this. Pee, let me pull over.

487
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Take a pause. I'm going to run up against the clock.

488
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to rush this, and you sit tight

489
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: and I'll come right back to you. I'm run an

490
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: any in the car. Doctor will return right after this.

491
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: Shut up and stop talking right away. Yes, boss, here,

492
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: I am. Let's say I get back to Pete in Michigan. Pete,

493
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: you're still there, sir, Yes I am, and I know

494
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: where you're going ahead. When I bought the break booster

495
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Um and it came with a rebuilt Master, I detached

496
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: the Master and bench blooded. Okay, So so let's let's

497
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: let's think dry proportioning locked in to keep the combo

498
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: in place now after I jam the other one, but

499
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I replace that with new as well. So let's make

500
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: the dangerous assumption that the Master is bled and you

501
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: get you got you have good fluid there. I won't

502
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: put you through the pain of because it sounds like

503
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: you're smart enough to realize you could also, you know,

504
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: they do make hydraulic plugs. You could plug the master.

505
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: Do you have a good pedal? Good? The Master's bled?

506
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: Move on? So that's always there is an option. This

507
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: is a four wheel anti lock break car, Pete. Yeah,

508
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: it's um is a really odd year. It is even

509
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: has an O B D two connector, but it really

510
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: isn't O B D one, so they call it. At

511
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: one point five, right, if they hadn't fully adopted the

512
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: O B D two standard. So this is the only

513
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: year that was the first year the second generation. It

514
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: came out the North American Truck of the Year and

515
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: of course Playboy Magazine Truck of the Year. That's the

516
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: most important credential. Absolutely, absolutely, But it doesn't fit. It's

517
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: not an S ten and it's not it's like a

518
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: teat him. Well, and that's why. So this is a

519
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: I just want to understand this. This is a four

520
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: wheel ABS vehicle and it has the big hydraulic control

521
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: unit with all the brake lines going into it mounted

522
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: on the fender. Well, that's the piece you're talking about, right,

523
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: But the electronic control module it's right, Um, but the

524
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: control module why I couldn't get my snap on brick

525
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: to talk to it. No, you won't. It's not it's

526
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: not on the bus. It's it there's there's it doesn't

527
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: have communication. The only way I recalled there was a

528
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: special odd ball you know, by this tool for the

529
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: three times in this lifetime of the vehicle you're gonna

530
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 1: need to talk to what kind of a tool it's

531
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: it's you have an odd dipbeat. You really do. So

532
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: the purpose of those tools that you're waiting for are

533
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: to put that a BS controller into a neutral state

534
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: to allow internal passages to be pushed open so that

535
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: air can be pushed out. If that's the case here, So, yes,

536
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: you you need at least two and for some reason

537
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: I think you need three, but I'd have to look

538
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: at a procedure to verify that in my head. But

539
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, other than going through the process when you

540
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: get you know, all your tools together, all right, have

541
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: you considered or do you have the ability too if

542
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: you were going to bleed this. I wonder what would

543
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,479
Speaker 1: happen if we if we backbled this. Have you ever

544
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: seen the little hypodermics with the rubber hose on the

545
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: end for break bleeding. Yes, uh, you you have. I

546
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what the back bleeding is.

547
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: What you're talking about, Well, well, what they're doing is

548
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: you're putting you're putting a hypodermic with a rubber hose

549
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: on the bleeder and you're gonna you're gonna, you know,

550
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: put fluid into the bleederwards, force it backwards, and push

551
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: air up so it comes out through the master and

552
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: dislodge the bubbles that way, if you can get past

553
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: any blocked pins or passages inside that ABS control unit,

554
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: it's you're pushing fluid. You're pushing fluid the other way. Now,

555
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: before you go through all this, and I believe you

556
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: can still find those break bleeders, those reverse uh syringe

557
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: flushers O'Reilly outo parts has and you can go on

558
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: O'Reilly auto dot com and find them there. But before

559
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: you go through that, I would for the age of

560
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: the vehicle unless those any other break lines are perfect,

561
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: I would just change all the brake lines at this

562
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: point because you know, it's only gonna come back to

563
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: haunt you. Yeah, I do know that, you know. Um yeah,

564
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm obsessed with this truck. So I'm trying

565
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: to Yeah, listen, they're they're they're they're great vehicles. They

566
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: really were. They you're running out of parts. You're gonna

567
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: find less and less parts available. Uh yeah, yeah, um,

568
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, which is a whole another issue onto itself.

569
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons that you're gonna see a

570
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: lot of those vehicles go by the wayside. We had

571
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: a customer with a ninety six and Henry kept his

572
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: right up until the last minute, I believe we needed

573
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: a fuel tank for it, and you know, for love

574
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: of money and for not for lack of try, and

575
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: we could not find a fuel tank or was it

576
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: a fuel pump module for this particular S ten that

577
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: was an S ten because that was O B D

578
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: two was and it just you know, it was very

579
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: already replaced the fuel tank and the pump. Yeah. Um,

580
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: So question for you to two more questions on the

581
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: four wall because it does and I bought the the

582
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: official GM service manuals, the too like Detroit bibles. Um,

583
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: and uh, it does take just two of those tools,

584
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have to use them simultaneously if I.

585
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: If I do go forward the bleeding, one pin sticks

586
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: out farther than the other. Is that a concern? I think? I.

587
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: I think that's showing you that the that the device

588
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: is U'm not centered and that's what those tools are

589
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: going to take care of. So I've seen that before.

590
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Not uncommon. And then thirdly, if I do the reverse bleed,

591
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: will that also bleed because you know in bleeding and

592
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: bleeding and I've been doing it, so I don't know,

593
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, well what you what you really ask me,

594
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: is will the reverse bleed push past the blocked port

595
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: and the A B S controller and get the air out?

596
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: You know, Pete, I don't know, so what I'm to

597
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: go on the other way? Would it bleed because I

598
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: don't think that I got the Master of fluid down

599
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: far enough. But if I did get any air into it,

600
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: would it flush the master backwards? And yes, that I've

601
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: seen that, I can tell you, you know, take the

602
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: A B S controller out of the equation, just that

603
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, reverse flush uh line from the caliper up

604
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: to the Master that I've seen. If you have somebody

605
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: stand there at the man ster with the lid off

606
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: and you gotta go slow because you're gonna create a

607
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: little guys are in the Master, you will see you

608
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: will see a little you know, you'll see a little

609
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: waterfall and the Master as it flows up, but you

610
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: can see bubbles come out. The question I've got in

611
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: my mind is will it be able to push past

612
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: the A B S controller? And I don't know that answer.

613
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: So at most I'm asking you to go on oreillyoto

614
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: dot com. You probably spend upwards of maybe fifty bucks,

615
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: probably less for those break bleed syringes and see what

616
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: that does for you. Call me back, Pete and if

617
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: you get a chance, send us some pictures. Maybe we'll

618
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: put them up on our Facebook page. We've always a

619
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: lot of fun looking at some of these older vehicles,

620
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: and h T ten Blazer was a nice one. So

621
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: good to hear from you. I'm running any of the

622
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We are back right after this welcome back.

623
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: We're on the name of the Car Doctor. You know.

624
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I want to close out the hour today. I want

625
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: to tell you a story about Lisa, new customer to

626
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: the shop, and her in Toyota Highlander. Um. And I'm

627
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: not really quite sure how to tell you this story

628
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: because it's it's it's it's the long and the short

629
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: of it is. Lisa is new to us. She came

630
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: to us, she's been going to the deal in the

631
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: past three or four years, maybe four or five years,

632
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: four years, four years, five years, whatever, And she recently

633
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: came out of there with a laundry list the car

634
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: needed to have. The car needed breaks and needed a

635
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: break flush and needed to tire rotate. It needed cabin

636
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: filter and evaporator, coil cleaning, and a laundry list upwards

637
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: of two thousand dollars worth of work and at thirty

638
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: eight thousand miles. Lisa was smart enough. She said, you know,

639
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: I got a question that something nagged at her in

640
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: the back of her mind. She brought us the car

641
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: legit just no, no squabbles. You know, it was a

642
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine dollars. It needed a cabin filter

643
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: and a good look over. And I just keep thinking

644
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: to myself, if these guys are gonna try to be thieves,

645
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: that should good a gun to go with the mask

646
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: they're probably wearing because of the pandemic. I don't know.

647
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: I was glad to have her. I'm running any in

648
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: the card oct until the next time. The mechanics aren't expensive,

649
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: they're priceless. She cast super