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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. I now, especially Mandra Manda's back.

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Speaker 1: She's back from her amazing honeymoon.

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Speaker 2: You're you're a missus.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm a missus. What's really funny is like not

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Speaker 3: like almost every hotel referred to Enrique as mister Woodruff,

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Speaker 3: which I thought was really freaking funny because I like

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Speaker 3: mister and missus Woodruff right this way. Happy honeymoon because

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Speaker 3: I because a lot of the reservations were under my.

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Speaker 2: Yea, I thought he was like, see, this is what

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna do.

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Speaker 3: No, it was amazing. I feel like I was kind

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Speaker 3: of telling you earlier when we chatted that I don't

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Speaker 3: past like three four weeks, and I just I'm so

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Speaker 3: happy to be home. But the honeymoon was amazing. I

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Speaker 3: called it thirty two date nights because that's what I

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Speaker 2: I love that thirty two date nights. I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's something really cute we did.

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Speaker 3: We had like two dates a day. You had lunch

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Speaker 3: date and then you sometimes you had a breakfast date

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Speaker 3: if you woke up, which never happened. We constantly missed.

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Speaker 3: I was so excited I was like, book the hotels

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Speaker 3: that had the good breakfast. Let me see the breakfast buffet.

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Speaker 3: I want pictures. And we just slept through it like

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Speaker 3: nine out of ten times. But yeah, you just have

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Speaker 3: a date in the afternoon, then you do an activity,

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Speaker 3: It's like that was just and then repeat that for

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Speaker 3: sixteen days. It was. It was like towards the end,

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Speaker 3: need to stop. We're like day drinking and eating cake

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Speaker 3: at two pm and we're taking naps like from three

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Speaker 3: gonna like get super fat and lose all of our

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Speaker 3: brain cells if we do not get back. So we

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Speaker 3: got in like super late last night, and and uh

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Speaker 3: and yeah today I've been doing like a light to

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Speaker 3: re entry, which I recommend I work from home. We

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Speaker 3: the flight wasn't bad. We went to for those I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I told y'all, we did Italy. We

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Speaker 3: did three cities in Italy, and we did the last

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Speaker 3: four days in Barcelona, Barcela.

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Speaker 2: I love that list they have Barcelona, Bona.

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Speaker 3: It was so nice to be, like the last four days,

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Speaker 3: to be in a country where we actually spoke the language.

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Speaker 3: We had the upper hand. O. Yes, I understand you guys,

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Speaker 3: to say in Italy because we did Rome, Venice and

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Speaker 3: Florence and every like we did a lot of everyone

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Speaker 3: about it, but I learned so much about Italy that

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that it wasn't officially named Italy until

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Speaker 2: But it looks like I loved following you on.

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Speaker 1: I was like watching vicariously through I g I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: your curls were popping.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna be a natural. Thank you, miss. I

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Speaker 3: I always do. I only needed one hair care product

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Speaker 3: the entire honeymoon, Miss Jessie's pillowsoft curls. God, we need

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Speaker 3: to get her as an advertiser.

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Speaker 1: Your curls were I was like, wait, maybe so she's

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Speaker 3: We were just being we were missing it every minute.

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Speaker 2: Well, while you're away, so many shenanigans happened. What is

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Speaker 3: Tell me you're.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know you well, something good. One Apple ranked

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty awesome. We were under like the

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Speaker 3: But I'm so happy for her. Yeah, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: They said that she I forget what tournament she won

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was one of those opens.

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Speaker 2: It was a big deal.

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Speaker 3: And she was what a month pregnant at that time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your faith could never just so work clear, I know.

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Speaker 3: I Loki almost sent that to my best friend Kristin,

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Speaker 3: twelve weight, No, she's more than that. Now she's sixteen

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Speaker 3: Was really trying and then she knew for sure. But

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Speaker 1: And then of course the lay twins that are coming

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Speaker 3: How is Beyonce because I've been following her on on

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Speaker 1: She's not pregnant. You know that that's a big belly.

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Speaker 1: But chow, the way she looks now, you cannot deny

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Speaker 2: See her ankles, her piky toe is pregnant.

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Speaker 3: Hansel and Gretel. Like I don't know, I'm just gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be just I'm gonna be a job of the Hut.

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Speaker 2: Remember Job of the Hut.

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Speaker 3: Yes that that with lipstick. It's gonna be me.

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Speaker 2: But my eyes bugged out, like breathe it off.

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Speaker 3: I feel like my thighs and my knees are gonna

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Speaker 1: I always a Superman, Like, if I get really really fat,

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Speaker 1: would you still love me?

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Speaker 2: He's like if I did it, Yes, I would.

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Speaker 3: If I did it, if he could look at you

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Speaker 3: and be like, yeah, I did that.

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Speaker 1: He was like, well my max my max weight is

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Speaker 1: I'm like, well it's getting to I mean, no shade,

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Speaker 2: And so we went and it was like a note saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, well we were gonna apply for the license.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm sure you can pick your date though, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure. My yeah, my parents did dresses of the

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Speaker 4: Oh that's cute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it didn't work out so well, but.

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Speaker 1: my fag, I guess Superman is six six, so he's always.

439
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 2: Looking up like whoa, and whenever he comes, he's like, yes,

440
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,840
Speaker 2: pick me up so I can touch the light pictures.

441
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Speaker 2: That's his favorite thing.

442
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 1: Because he's the only one who's tall enough to hold

443
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Speaker 1: him and to hold him that high up. And I'm

444
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Speaker 1: just like looking like, oh, he's such a great dad.

445
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's a great dad with his own what

446
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: a supergirl. So I knew, you know, he was such

447
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 1: a great dad. And he was just like, I can't

448
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 1: wait for this again. He's like, this is the type

449
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 1: of thing that makes a man stay.

450
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: Home all day.

451
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, not all day because you know, they

452
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Speaker 1: don't get on my nerves now, but you know what

453
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Speaker 1: I mean, I.

454
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Speaker 3: Think it's becoming cooler like for men to be emotional

455
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 3: and to show that side of themselves every I'm telling you,

456
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: the husbands of all my best girlfriends are such steps

457
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Speaker 3: Like they're the ones crying got my wedding. They're the

458
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Speaker 3: ones who you know, are gushing about their kids. Like

459
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Speaker 3: I think it's uh yeah. I think the whole stigma

460
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 3: of like, you know, tough men don't cry, tough don't

461
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Speaker 3: care about that weak family stuff like that is not

462
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: the thing like, I think that it's becoming much more

463
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Speaker 3: like manly to show that love and affection for family.

464
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Speaker 1: No, I agree, it seems like that too, Like even

465
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Speaker 1: with like you know, artists and stuff that people like

466
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Speaker 1: kind of look up to or trying to emulate. If

467
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: you see, there's definitely a trend toward family and love and.

468
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Speaker 2: And yeah, so that's a good thing. I know. The

469
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: listeners are like, alrighte YadA, YadA, get.

470
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Speaker 3: To some of the stuff you Tiffany. The listeners are

471
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: you no, start here, I'm not.

472
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Speaker 2: Break grab booths. What do I want to boost? A break? Honestly,

473
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

474
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Speaker 1: I'm in a good mood, so I don't I don't

475
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Speaker 1: even know if I want to do a boost. I

476
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: feel like I want to do I mean a break.

477
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Speaker 1: I feel like I want to do like a.

478
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Speaker 2: Boost to love. But I feel like we loved it

479
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 2: out already. Let me see, what do I want to

480
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Speaker 2: do A boost? You go first? I want to think

481
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Speaker 2: about it.

482
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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna you should do a boost on

483
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: what you're doing in LA or maybe you can't say,

484
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 3: but you can talk about the past things you've done

485
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: in LA and how you accomplish that because maybe we

486
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 3: have some listeners who you know, have their own businesses

487
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 3: or want to build their brand and want to know

488
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 3: how they can get media attention. And you've worked really

489
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Speaker 3: hard on getting more media attention and it's like really

490
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: working for you. Now I'm getting a lot of TV

491
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: present or TV spots and stuff. So maybe boost, So

492
00:21:58,840 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: let's talk about that.

493
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll do I know it, I'll do

494
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: a boost too, because I'll do a boost to team.

495
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: So normally and anybody who's like a first time entrepreneur

496
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: and you're just starting out, it's typically really hard to

497
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 1: let people in to let them help you because it's

498
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: your baby. You're gonna break this baby, you're gonna beat

499
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: this baby. You're up all night with this baby. And

500
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: at some point, if you're going to really achieve the

501
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: next level of success, you have to allow folks to

502
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Speaker 1: help you. And it's hard to make that transition because

503
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: in the beginning you don't know how to pick the

504
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Speaker 1: right people. But I've been really fortunate in that some

505
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Speaker 1: of the right people have picked me and so yeah,

506
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Speaker 1: so I'm actually here in LA I could say I'm

507
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Speaker 1: taping the reel tomorrow. This is my third time, and

508
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Speaker 1: The Real is a national show. I mean they have

509
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Speaker 1: millions of viewers and they typically don't have people. They

510
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: just started talking about money on the show, and for

511
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 1: the most part, when they talk about money, they asked

512
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Speaker 1: me to come on. And so it's kind of incredible

513
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: when you really think, like literally, what six seven years ago,

514
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Speaker 1: I was in a preschool classroom in Newerk teaching, you know,

515
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: my kids, the ABC's you know, and this is what

516
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: I found as far as business, for those of you listening.

517
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Speaker 2: One One, it takes time.

518
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Speaker 1: There are some people, yes, but very few who you

519
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: know from out the gate boom, and they're amazing.

520
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: They make a ton of money. You know, they're super successful.

521
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, But for the average person, it takes time because one,

522
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you're not even sure what you're offering is like,

523
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: what's your service, what's your product? And so it takes

524
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Speaker 1: time to really figure out what that's going to be.

525
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: And then two you start to realize that one thing

526
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: does not mean another in business. I thought to myself

527
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Speaker 1: when I first started, if I can get my name

528
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Speaker 1: in these magazines or newspapers, then I'll make a lot

529
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Speaker 1: of money. That's not true because my Brokesh year, I

530
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: was like in every magazine you could think of, and

531
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Speaker 1: press does not equal profit. Profit is profit, And so

532
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Speaker 1: one year I remember I was like, this is the

533
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Speaker 1: year I'm going to try to get into everything.

534
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Speaker 2: And I did.

535
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Speaker 1: I mean I did help a reporter out, which is

536
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Speaker 1: this free website where you can answer queries about from

537
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: reporters who are like, hey, we're looking to interview people

538
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: about specific topics and stuff.

539
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: I did that every day to get myself.

540
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Speaker 1: I have my my best friend who I grew up

541
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Speaker 1: in like I've known her since middle school in my

542
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 1: publicist she'd gone to school for communications and public relations

543
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Speaker 1: and she had quit her job at some big marketing firm.

544
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Speaker 1: When I started my business, she was like, you could

545
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Speaker 1: be my first client, and so I was, And so

546
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: she obviously played a huge role, especially now so I'm

547
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Speaker 1: not her only client. She's got a number of like

548
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: huge clients now. We built our businesses together. But for me,

549
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: I really want to be an example of what it

550
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: can look like if you can do good work and

551
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: literally help people for a living and make good money.

552
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Speaker 1: I hate when sometimes I read like you know, entrepreneurship

553
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: journeys or stories and people make it seem like you

554
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: have to be this like mean, nasty shark out here

555
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: in these streets, and like you know, or that you

556
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: can't practice self care. You know, always work and stay hup,

557
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: stay hungry, stay hustled, stay Yes, do I work a lot, Yeah,

558
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,239
Speaker 1: but I take a nap every day, and I hang

559
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: out with Superman and Supergirl, and I see my sister

560
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: and babysit my nephew and do a podcast with Mandy,

561
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: and you know, like, so I just want to show

562
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: that you can make good money by helping people. One,

563
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: and you can make good money by helping people that

564
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: look like you brown folks, because you know, they make

565
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: it seem like there's not enough money in the brown community.

566
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: Just to serve them. And you can't shame moisture and

567
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: you know that.

568
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 3: Oops, sorry Trumpito just took over my internet.

569
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, I just hope to be an example that,

570
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,959
Speaker 1: like you know, that it's not mutually exclusive. You can

571
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: do good work, help good people, and make good money.

572
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: And it's just like I don't know, Yeah, entrepreneurship is

573
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 1: not easy, but for me, I just can't see myself

574
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Speaker 1: doing anything else.

575
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Speaker 4: Here.

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we need to have I feel like we

577
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: should do a little We should have Drina on how

578
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 3: does Junior feel about being interviewed? She can come on

579
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: and talk to I feel like she could have some

580
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: like good beginner's tips for people who are trying to

581
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: get their names out, like mistakes they may make, prois

582
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: or something you sure we could offer the audience. I'm

583
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: not putting it on the spot, even though I know

584
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: she's sitting right there.

585
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: I know I'm going to force her because Drina's always

586
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: like she's like so used it because when you do

587
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: public relations, you're so used to being in the background.

588
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Drina, get your face out here so

589
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: people can see how amazing you are. Because I'm here,

590
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: people don't realize, like, so here, I'm taping the reel.

591
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: It seems so great. They flew me out here, like

592
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: We've got this amazing hotel room and you know, we

593
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: have personal driver, all this stuff. Drina pitched a reel

594
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Speaker 1: for nearly a year and they were like, who who

595
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Speaker 1: a year of dry pitching. And then I guess, you know,

596
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: because the way it works, as producers will have like

597
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: meetings and they're like, oh, we should introduce a new segment,

598
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: and I guess they were having a meeting around maybe

599
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: talking about finances, and that week Drina was doing her

600
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: weekly pictures, was like, hey, you know, you should think

601
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Speaker 1: about the budgeonista. And so it was just the timing

602
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Speaker 1: that they finally opened it and said hey, you know what.

603
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, because and this is

604
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: when people don't realize that, you know, everyone's wanting to

605
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: be on Oprah, but that's you're never going to get

606
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: directly on Oprah. This is what major networks do. They

607
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: will go and see have you done anything before them.

608
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: They're looking to see if you've been on local TV

609
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: picks eleven news, you know, your ABC local news, whatever

610
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: that is, because they want to see they're not going

611
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: to have you on their major network or major show

612
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: that reaches millions, and you've never been on TV before,

613
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: so you can freeze up when they take live, you know,

614
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: and so they're looking to see what you've done before.

615
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: And so Drina has gotten me on so many of

616
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: these smaller local channels. So then when they you know,

617
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: when they finally opened her, you know, they look and

618
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: then they researched me. They saw that I had done

619
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: hundreds of interviews before on all these smaller networks and

620
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: smaller channels, and they were able to see how I

621
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: presented myself because I wasn't great in the beginning.

622
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Speaker 2: She does. Drina does a lot of.

623
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: Like media coaching too, and so really practicing like I

624
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: sucked in the beginning, and she would we would go

625
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: over things over and over and over. So by the

626
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: time I got to the real I was ready for it.

627
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: And so that was what that was, what really was

628
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: like important, honestly, and so yes, now I'm here now,

629
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: but you know that's only because I'm finally ready for it.

630
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than getting an opportunity before you're ready

631
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: for it. So yeah, I say all that to Saydrina's

632
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: gotta be on the shell.

633
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: I violence.

634
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: She just walked into the room, So you're gonna be

635
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: on brown ambition, just so you know, say hi to

636
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Speaker 1: the people.

637
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: She's looking at me like, we'll have our people call

638
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: her people.

639
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: We will.

640
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do a brown

641
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: break because I did. I did read a little bit

642
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 3: of the news. I read a little news over the

643
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: over the over the moon of honey, and one of

644
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: the headlines that caught my attention. I have to do

645
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: a book. Sorry a break, because I saw this headline

646
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: and it really struck me because when I was younger,

647
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: my mom and my dad got divorced when I was ten,

648
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: and then we moved. We moved into like a teeny

649
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: tiny house in like a really nice neighbor like a

650
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: nice neighborhood in a county in Georgia that was like,

651
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: had a much better school system than the county where

652
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: my parents had lived when they were married, and my

653
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: mom was like, we were broke and we were renting

654
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Speaker 3: a house. And anyway, needless to say, I was one

655
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: of those kids who had like the free lunch program

656
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: at school or the reduced lunch and all that kind

657
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: of stuff. And I remember what it was like if

658
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: you didn't bring I think it was like eight dollars

659
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: for the week or something like four five dollars for

660
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: the week, And I remembered what would happen if you

661
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: forgot your lunch card or if your parents forgot to

662
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: pay that week. They would give you like the shitty

663
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: sandwich with like the peanut butter mixed with splendor or

664
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: like I don't know, honey or whatever it was, and

665
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: you'd have to eat that really sad sandwich in front

666
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: of everybody with their French fries and their pizza, and

667
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: it was really mortifying. And I read this headline in

668
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: The Times that was talking about how in a lot

669
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 3: of school districts they're still shaming students whose parents are

670
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: either forgetting to pay their life lunch or they have

671
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: you can have like a debt on your lunch. Now,

672
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: like the one girl and the story, I think she

673
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: was from Alabama. It was her first day of school

674
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 3: and she showed up and they were like, no girl

675
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: last They saw on her record that she her parents

676
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: were behind a week or two from the previous school year,

677
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: and they didn't allow her to each they threw her

678
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: lunch in the garbage, like in front of the other kids. No,

679
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: not kidding, And that's that's not the only district that

680
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: will do that, throw away the food or give the

681
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: kid like a really sad cold sandwich or some sort

682
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: of like cold inferior lunch that just meets the federal

683
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: whatever the federal regulations are for a school lunch. And

684
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: I just wanted to do a brown break. For that

685
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: whole practice. I think it is archaic and stupid, and

686
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, I feel like that's really damaging to students,

687
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: and I just wish it wouldn't happened anymore. So I

688
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: hope and to have that that little girl half her story,

689
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: like it's already mortifying enough to have that happen to

690
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: you as a kid, Like you know how hard it is.

691
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: I never had my lunch thrown away, but I did

692
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: have like the experience of going to the cashier and

693
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: being like, I'm sorry, don't have the money this week.

694
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Can you give me my sad peanut butter sandwich please?

695
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: Ah?

696
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, and kids judge, like I remember, I

697
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 3: would just not bring lunch. I wouldn't even just there

698
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: are some days I would just not go if I

699
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 3: didn't have money. I'd be like, yeah, I'm not I'm

700
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: not eating today. I'm just like whatever. I would just

701
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: or i'd bring a dollar, like I'd have one dollar

702
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: and that was enough for like French fries or whatever,

703
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: because that was cooler than going and getting the shitty sandwich,

704
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: like the peanut butter sandwich in the plastic wrap, you know.

705
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: So I was like malnourishing myself just to avoid that embarrassment.

706
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: And I know kids do that, like yeah, when when

707
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: every other year, like lunch bags would go in and

708
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: out of style. Some years it was not cool to

709
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: have a lunch box and some and bring it. You

710
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: had to bring a brown paper bag instead. That was

711
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: what was cool, and like that would flip and if

712
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: you didn't have the right thing, I would just not

713
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: bring my lunch to school someday. And anyway, anyway, I

714
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: don't mean to go on, but I just wanted to

715
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: bring that up. And uh, if you know, if you

716
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: hear of that happening in your school district, I think

717
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: it's important for parents and and just like the community

718
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: to to speak up. And I don't know what exactly

719
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: can be done. I know that you know the food

720
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: isn't free, but I don't think it should come to

721
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 3: the point where you're throwing children's lunch away in front

722
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: of them.

723
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

724
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: No, I I agree, And I know you're right.

725
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: I know that the food isn't free, but it's just

726
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: so disheartening to hear about that, you know, Like, oh,

727
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: I remember like when when I taught preschool in Newark,

728
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: we would get The good thing is is that everybody

729
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: had like basically states farmsored lunch or whatever, so they

730
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: would send us like you know, the food for the

731
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: for the for the day, and then for the week

732
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: we would get like milk, and so all the kids

733
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: had the same food unless they had a special allergy

734
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: and sometimes their their parent would bring in whatever.

735
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: But you know, but there were three and fours. So

736
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: but still I feel like that was an alternative. I

737
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: don't know, you know what that program was.

738
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: And the thing is, we would get so much extra

739
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: food that because we would get like a gallon a day,

740
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's only like five kids here or like no,

741
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I think we would get like two gallons a day,

742
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: and you know, kids don't drink like, you know, that much.

743
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: And so I used to because we were at the

744
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: bottom of a project building, well a senior building basically

745
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: a project building, but it was full of senior citizens.

746
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: So I would put all the extra food in the

747
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: mailroom and then let them know, like I would let

748
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: the like the.

749
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: The people who worked in the building.

750
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: Like, oh, can you let certain seniors that I knew

751
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: were having a hard time let them know. And it

752
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: got to be we did it for so long people

753
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: thought it was like a program, like.

754
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: You know, like it was Friday, Yes, like Okay, there

755
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: goes the lady with the program. I was like, Oh no,

756
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: this is just leftovers from the pre school.

757
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: And I felt so bad when they closed down our

758
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: preschool because I thought about all the elderly people in

759
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: the building that really came to depend, Like there were

760
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: certain people that would go to their doors like oh,

761
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: I knows mister, you know, mister McFarland is in a wheelchair,

762
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: and so let me bring him his milk to him.

763
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: And so I always think about them, like, wow, you

764
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: know now because we were there for years. I worked

765
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: at that center for seven years of giving away free

766
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: food and then for us to be gone.

767
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: I just think about that sometimes.

768
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: And I remember the state coming and telling me that

769
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I was not allowed to give away the food, that

770
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: I had to throw it away. And I was like, oh, yeah, sure,

771
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: I'll do that whatever like no, because they were like

772
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: I guess they didn't want to be there's a potential

773
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: to being sued if someone gets food poisoning or whatever

774
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: with food that's not meant for them, like this is

775
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: like the kids are insured and blah blah blah they

776
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: told me. And I was like, oh, sure, I'll throw

777
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: away good food and not feed the elderly people in

778
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the building.

779
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: Get out of here.

780
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: I just remember being like, that's not going to happen.

781
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: So that doesn't even make any sense to me. And

782
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: we never got sued and people ate, so you know

783
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: they're glad.

784
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean the government. I mean there's rules in place

785
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: for reasons, but like the level of regulations from just

786
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: like come on, yeah, And that reminds me remember like

787
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: a month or two ago, someone in Trump's administration had

788
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: talked about defunding Meals on Wheels or taking away the

789
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: fundings that state used to fund Meals on Wheels programs,

790
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: and that was just like so out of touch. I

791
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: don't think it actually happened because the blowback was so huge,

792
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 3: but like whether your little kids like those programs really matter.

793
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: I mean I would rely on those free meals, Like

794
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: I came into school at like six thirty because they

795
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: had like the free breakfast.

796
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 4: Man.

797
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: I used to live on those like really terrible sausage

798
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: pancake corn dogs, like I even know what they were,

799
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: but we would have or like the really rubbery like

800
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: blueberry pancakes. I mean, I can still remember how those

801
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: things tasted. I didn't even I haven't thought about that

802
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: in so long. I remember exactly how they tasted, like

803
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: basically all the same, like like pancakes shouldn't be purple,

804
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 3: but they were, like and sometimes they would but like

805
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: on a good day you'd get the ones with sausage.

806
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah man, anyway, man, lunch room level, I feel like

807
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: that is where like real life lessons happened the lunch room.

808
00:35:59,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: Man.

809
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 3: I think we all have like lunch room horror stories,

810
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: but I think it me. I just felt for those

811
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: little kids who you know, are being stigmatized by adults

812
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: in lunch rooms across the country. So that's my brown break,

813
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 3: brown break.

814
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: Brown booth. What you're gonna do, What you're gonna do

815
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: when we break on you. I haven't spun it in

816
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: a while, so I figured like it was time. It

817
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: is a good o deep a goody is over here,

818
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: shaking her head, like what's happening?

819
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: Does she not know?

820
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: She must not listen. She's like, I got enough, Tiffany,

821
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't need to listen to that exactly.

822
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: She's like, right, none of my prients listen to my podcast.

823
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: All of your friends? Yeah, well laughing, Rea. I went

824
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: to Mandy's wedding, I felt like a freaking celebrity.

825
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: Everybody from like grandma to the three year old's like,

826
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know whatever, girl she over here.

827
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: Copy please, I don't get notifications, what what what? But

828
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure she can tell you how many Instagram likes

829
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: you got, like in the last five minutes. It's okay, Drina.

830
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: We'll wait. We'll wait until she comes on the show.

831
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: And because she can defend herself.

832
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, when she comes on the show, well she'll be

833
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: under fire under thee we love.

834
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: Well, let's do some questions. We we I have a

835
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: good question I wanted to do for today, and then

836
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna share my interview later in the show. So

837
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: we're gonna do questions and then we have I interviewed

838
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: Morgan Debon, who's the co founder of Blavity, which we

839
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: love some Blavity and Blavity is just is still in

840
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: startup phase, but they're growing and growing and growing. So

841
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: I talked to Morgan about growing the brand of Blavity

842
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: and then branching it out. She's got a really awesome

843
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: new brand called twenty one ninety, which is two to

844
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: one ninety N I N E T Y think about that,

845
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: which is her new lifestyle brand, which is branching off

846
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: from Blavity, and she talks about that, and she's doing

847
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: another year. We had her on last year to talk

848
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: about the empower Her conference, and she's doing that again

849
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: in Chicago. So that's coming up later on the show.

850
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: But beforehand, let's get at this question. Okay, you guys

851
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: have stopped telling you whether or not you want your

852
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: names to be said or not, so I don't know

853
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: what to do. I think I'm gonna keep this one

854
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 3: confidential because it seems a little sensitive. But okay, this

855
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: question is from We'll just call her D. She says, Hey,

856
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: lady the Love your podcast. I was talking to my

857
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 3: older sister a few months ago. She recently married and

858
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 3: is living with our parents and her husband and our parents' house.

859
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: I know she and her husband have been working towards

860
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: saving up for a house. As we were talking, she

861
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: explained her struggles with getting alone. Basically, it sounds like

862
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: her student loans messed up her debt to income ratio,

863
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: and since her husband doesn't make enough money to get

864
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: a loan hers himself, they haven't been able to get

865
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: a mortgage loaner get a proof or a mortgage loaner

866
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: because of her debt basically and their lack of an income.

867
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 3: She asked me, My sister asked me to co sign

868
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: alone for the house for her and her husband. I

869
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: didn't really know what that meant, but it sounded like

870
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: a really bad idea. My gut reactions into that gut,

871
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: and that gut tells the truth. My gut reaction was

872
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 3: to say no. Well, actually, more like hell no. She

873
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: said that it has really changed relationship between my sister

874
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: and I since I told her no. Did I do

875
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: the right thing? I feel so bad for them, but

876
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: I just started a new job and I'm trying to

877
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: save up for life events now, and I just don't

878
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: think I can help. What are your thoughts on co

879
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: signing and can you offer my sister any advice about

880
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: home ownership with student loans?

881
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: Oh? So, first, I feel bad because I understand when

882
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: you tell someone no about co signing because one my dad,

883
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: I remember him sitting at down and telling me and

884
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: my sisters, like, what you won't do is co sign

885
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: for each other, Like saying that to us that if

886
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: your sister needs to borrow money, fine give it to her,

887
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: but you do not lend your name because you cannot

888
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: get that back easily, even for your sister. I remember

889
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: Superman and I got into a really like heated debate,

890
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, because when we were dating,

891
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: like two years so, you know, getting fairly serious, and

892
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: he wanted me to co sign for a car, and

893
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: I told him no because I remember, if my dad

894
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: is telling me not to co sign for my sister,

895
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean not my you know, even though we were

896
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: living together.

897
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: And he was like, what do you mean no.

898
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I mean that didn't go over well,

899
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: but I still I never co signed and I won't

900
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: And because it's it's your name. In America, not even

901
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: how much money you have in the bank is as

902
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: important as what your credit it looks like, because it

903
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: can hinder everything from the job that you have to

904
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: where you live. And if you co sign, does that

905
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: show like what what if you want to get a

906
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: house later? You know, you put yourself in a position

907
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: where if they don't pay, the co signer.

908
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: Is equally as responsible.

909
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: And there's a reason that there's that debt to income

910
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: ratio in place, because what that means is the bank

911
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: is saying based upon how much you owe and how

912
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: much you borrow. You don't make enough to make on

913
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: time payments. The bank is telling your sister, you and

914
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: your husband collectively do not make enough to make on

915
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: time payments on top of your current debt. So that

916
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: means that there's a likelihood that they're not gonna pay

917
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: their mortgage on time every month, And that means not

918
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna look like you haven't paid your mortgage

919
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: on time every month. So I get why she would

920
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: ask you. She probably doesn't fully understand what she was

921
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: asking of you and what she was asking me to

922
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: put on the line for her. But you made the

923
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: right decision. But it doesn't mean that it doesn't it's

924
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: not something to be taken lightly. I would have a

925
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: sit down chat with her, like sister to sister, to

926
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: really like talk about why. Like I said, it was

927
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: a bonus contention for me and Superman, and it took

928
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: him for a while. I still still don't think that

929
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: he fully agreed.

930
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: You know with why I made that choice, But you

931
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: know I made it, and here we are.

932
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: I think you have to respect I think well. I

933
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: think one is the fact that because I can't tell you,

934
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: I don't think we get a more common question at

935
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: Magnify Money, then how do I get out of this

936
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 3: car loan that I signed CO signed for my friend

937
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: or my cousin or my boyfriend or whatever.

938
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: We don't.

939
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: That's like one of our most popular questions. And the

940
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: answer is like, well, you either have they either have

941
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: to have good enough credit to refinance the debt and

942
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: get your name off of it that way, which is

943
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: rarely ever the case, because these people are usually reaching

944
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 3: out to us after their friend or fiance or whoever

945
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 3: has been missing payments and now their credit is being

946
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: dragged in the mud. Because, like Tiffany said, I think

947
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: the core of what CO signing alone, whether it's a

948
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: student loan or a mortgage loan or a car loan,

949
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 3: is saying, if this person doesn't make payments, I'm here

950
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: to back them up and I will making payments on

951
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: their behalf. And believe me, they will come after you

952
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: once that first person, once that first and a loan

953
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 3: stops making payments, And when you can't make payments, then

954
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: your credit will get dragged down. It's like tying yourself

955
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: to a potentially sinking ship, you know what I mean.

956
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: So it's really dangerous and you, I don't know. It's

957
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: the one time where I feel like it can be

958
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 3: okay is maybe if a parent will co sign a

959
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 3: child student loan, but even that is super risky, and

960
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: you have to, as a parent ask yourself, if my

961
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: son daughter cannot afford their loan payments after college, can

962
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 3: I actually afford to make these payments? And if the

963
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: answer is no, then don't do it, and maybe reassess

964
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: how much of a loan you're taking out or what

965
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 3: school you're going to. And I don't think you should

966
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: feel like a bad sister. I've had to tell family

967
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: members know when they've asked for this kind of stuff before,

968
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: just like Tiffany, and offer just straight up cash and

969
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: instead of like putting my name on something. And I

970
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: think that's generally the best. But like you said, like

971
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: right now, you don't mention how old you are, what

972
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: you have going on in your life, But it sounds

973
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 3: like like you said, you need to focus on you

974
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: and saving for your own life events. And your sister's

975
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 3: an adult. She's staying with your parents, and I hope

976
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: she's saving money and if she is, and that's great,

977
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: the more they can save, the more down payment they

978
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: can put down, which means the lower loan amount they'll

979
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: have to borrow, and hopefully they'll get to a place

980
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: where they can afford a mortgage or maybe they you know,

981
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: you ask for advice on what you can do when

982
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: you are taking out a mortgage and you have a

983
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 3: lot of student loan debt. She mentioned in the question

984
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: that her sister has about seventy five thousand dollars worth

985
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: of student loan debt, which isn't uncommon. That sounds like

986
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 3: a grad degrade undergrad. And actually with I'm Magnify, we

987
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 3: just like a couple of weeks ago, put out a

988
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 3: guide on how on tips that you can use if

989
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 3: you are taking out or want to get a mortgage

990
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: and you have student loan debt. It's not a deal breaker,

991
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: but recently laws have changed, or not law, but regulations

992
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: on the main federal housing authorities have changed, and they

993
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: do factor your monthly student loan payment into your your

994
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 3: debt to income ratio and that's everything for them. And

995
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 3: if you're wondering what the hell is a debt to

996
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: income ratio? Basically in a nutshell, that is when you

997
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: are applying for a mortgage, and they add up your

998
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: they look at your gross income, and then they look

999
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: at the total amount of debt payments you have each

1000
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: month as well, and they divide your monthly debt obligations

1001
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: by your income. And if that number is over let's

1002
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: forty percent is typical thirty six percent to forty If

1003
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 3: it's over that amount, then you probably will not get

1004
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 3: approved for that mortgage loan. And that's just so the

1005
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: banks can or the mortgage lenders can cover their butts, right,

1006
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 3: because they don't want to lend to it. They shouldn't

1007
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 3: want to lend to someone who's couldn't afford it, Yeah,

1008
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: who couldn't afford it? Or who would you know there,

1009
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 3: they'd be oh more than they could afford to pay

1010
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: every month.

1011
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: So cause think about it this way, like it and

1012
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe like sitting down, like I said, I'm speaking with

1013
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: your sister. But let's just say she gets a house

1014
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: and her mortgage is I don't know, fifteen hundred dollars

1015
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: a month, but her student loan payment is six hundred.

1016
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: So now fifteen hundred plus six hundred is twenty one

1017
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month. And let's just say she makes

1018
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: three thousand dollars a month. That doesn't leave hardly any

1019
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: money left over. That's what they're really looking at. They're like,

1020
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: if you're paying.

1021
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: Your student loans and you're gonna pay your mortgage, what

1022
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: about groceries? What about this? How are you going to?

1023
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: The bank is looking how are you going to be

1024
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: able to afford life if you get this house? And

1025
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: so people are so gung ho about purchasing a house.

1026
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh, we'll figure out a way, okay, but banks can't

1027
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: hold their breath that you're going to figure out away

1028
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: because they are going to need their money. And so yeah,

1029
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: it's just I know it's hard because your sister's thinking emotionally.

1030
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: So maybe letting her, like you know, cool down a

1031
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: bit and really sitting with her and kind of working

1032
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: out the numbers, like you know, this is why And

1033
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: this is why I.

1034
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: Had to say no. Not because I don't love you

1035
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: or trust you.

1036
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd, but I want to make sure that

1037
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I build a strong financial future for myself as well.

1038
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And like I said, if she's she is at

1039
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: the last sentence is that I really hate to think

1040
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: of my sister spending her first year of marriage in

1041
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: her childhood bedroom. But that's a smart thing to do.

1042
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it may not be like the text, like

1043
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: the fairy tale. You know, you get married and you're

1044
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: like in Reguae and I don't have a house.

1045
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: We just got married.

1046
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: I don't feel pressure to buy a house right now

1047
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: because I mean I think that you your sister, maybe

1048
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: it's putting a lot or maybe her husband too, are

1049
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 3: putting pressure on themselves to have a house right away.

1050
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: They just got married. They want to have that, you know,

1051
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: that white picket fence, that life. But if you have

1052
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 3: to look at what reality is telling you and why,

1053
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 3: Like I think living at home saving up money is

1054
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: like the smart way to go about it. We did

1055
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: that last year, saving up money so we had space

1056
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: to grow. And so I think, I don't know, and

1057
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: I hope your sister is maybe being a little bit

1058
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: nicer for herself and to you too, and giving herself

1059
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: time to grow and achieve and accomplish that goal. It's possible, Absolutely,

1060
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 3: it's possible. If you have student loan debt, it just

1061
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: will be a little bit more difficult. So I wanted

1062
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: to share. I just pulled up the story that we did,

1063
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: and I was going to share a couple of tips

1064
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 3: from the story. So, obviously lowering your student loan debt

1065
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: would be one way to get to have a better

1066
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 3: chance at getting a loan. You can try to refinance,

1067
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: like if she has a good credit score, her credit

1068
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: is strong, she can try to refinance so that her

1069
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: monthly payment is lower and that will lower her the

1070
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: debt part of her debt to income ratio. But of

1071
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: course there's pros and cons to that. If you have

1072
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: federal debt and you refinance it with a private lender,

1073
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: you're getting rid of all those federal protections, which is

1074
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: a big, a big deal, So you don't want to

1075
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: do that lightly. And sometimes if you're trying to consolidate

1076
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 3: your debt, sometimes the rate you get, if it's federal loans,

1077
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: it won't even be that much better than what the

1078
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: rate was before you consolidated. So there's pros and cons there.

1079
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 3: But that's one option. I don't know if you if

1080
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 3: she's I don't know, I'm guessing if she tried to

1081
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: ask you to co sign her mortgage loan, she went

1082
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 3: to your parents already, But that's one thing you can

1083
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: do when some parents do this. Some parents do do

1084
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: this they will co sign. I don't know whose parents are,

1085
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: but they'll co sign for their son or daughter. But

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00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: that's that's one of the options you can also try,

1087
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: I believe. Hold make sure I got this right before

1088
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: I speak out of my butt. Oh here's okay. So

1089
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: this is what I was gonna say earlier. I almost said,

1090
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 3: if you put your loans in four parents or deferment,

1091
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: then that means you have a you won't have any

1092
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 3: monthly student loan payment and that won't factor into your debt.

1093
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: But that's what changed. In twenty fifteen, Franny May, sorry

1094
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 3: Fanny May and Freddiemack began requiring lenders to start factoring

1095
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: a student debt pay payments whether or not the loans

1096
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: were in forbearance or or deferment, which was the big change,

1097
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: and that's what sort of made it a lot tougher

1098
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: for people to start getting to start getting mortgage loans

1099
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: if they had a bunch of student loan debts. So

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00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: that's the big change. Yeah, that's that's and that's what's

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00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: so difficult because I mean, even if a lot of

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00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: people out there who have who aren't able to make

1103
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: their student loan payments, you know, aren't putting their loans

1104
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 3: into deferment or forbearance, which is a great tool to use,

1105
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: and you should if you're struggling rather than you know,

1106
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 3: missing your payments. But at the same time, I understand

1107
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 3: it because, like clearly, if you can't afford your loans

1108
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: to the point where you had to put them in forbearance,

1109
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 3: then maybe you can't afford a mortgage either, you know.

1110
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: So it's it's hard because you want to give people

1111
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: the answer that they want, which is like you can.

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Speaker 1: Have a house, yeah, but no, and you can't have stuff,

1113
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: but you just it takes time. I mean, it's it's

1114
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: one of those things where you know, like I mean,

1115
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: it just takes time, like a student loan debt takes

1116
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: time to pay off any financial goal that you want

1117
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: to achieve, especially if it's really big, it takes time.

1118
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with that.

1119
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: People say for years they get their credit straight. That's

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00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: that's typically what it looks like. Things don't usually just

1121
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: happen in just a few months, you know.

1122
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: And you're not alone. Like the rate of home ownership

1123
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: among people in our age range is lower and lower

1124
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 3: and lower than it ever was before. And it's just

1125
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: that's a reality. I mean, you're not alone. So yeah,

1126
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 3: I hope we answered your question D and you're a

1127
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: good sister. Don't feel bad. I hope you guys can

1128
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 3: get over this little bump. Money and money and family

1129
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: is always freaking awkward. But I'm sure you guys will.

1130
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure your sister will come around eventually.

1131
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so are you ready for that interview?

1132
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: I am ready. I love miss Morgan Debon and I

1133
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: want to share. I want to share my solo interview

1134
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 3: because Tiffany was unavailable more like we had a we

1135
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 3: had a crossing of the time zone situation. So yeah,

1136
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to listen to me talk to Morgan

1137
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: bym myself. But Morgan's awesome. We're super happy to have

1138
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: on the show. If you don't check out blavity, god

1139
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 3: is it dot orger dot com? Am I blinking? That's

1140
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 3: how long I've been outside from reality Glavity dot com,

1141
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 3: Blavity dot com, which is amazing, and then again her

1142
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: her new brand twenty one ninety, which you can follow

1143
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: on Instagram. Two one N I N E t y

1144
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 3: dot com. All right, guys, as promised, we have one

1145
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 3: of our returning guests to our favorite, miss Morgan Debon,

1146
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: who's the co founder of blavity dot com. Morgan, thank

1147
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: you so much for coming back on Brown Ambition.

1148
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me back.

1149
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 3: So obviously Blavity is growing, grow and growing, growing, and

1150
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 3: you have a lot of exciting things to talk about.

1151
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 3: One of them is your new project called twenty one

1152
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: to ninety. We're also going to talk a little bit

1153
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: about the empower Her conference, which is going to be

1154
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 3: in its second year this year, right yep, coming up soon,

1155
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: So a lot to talk about. I would just love

1156
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: to start with tell us about like where blavity is now?

1157
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: How are things going? The site to me seems to

1158
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 3: be doing extremely well. It's everywhere, so yeah, how is it?

1159
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: Things are going well? We are moving super fast. So

1160
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: this time last year we had just moved to LA

1161
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 4: to open our first office, so it's like crazy, We're

1162
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: already a year into our life in Los Angeles and

1163
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: the team is going well. We hired a managing editor.

1164
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 4: Before I was basically acting as managing editor, and you know,

1165
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: I did okay, but that's not my strength necessarily, and

1166
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: so we brought on this awesome editor, Brandon Harden, to

1167
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 4: take over an editorial team and like really focus us,

1168
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: which has been super helpful. So hopefully you guys have

1169
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: seen better content, more diverse content going out. And then

1170
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: we kind of went heads down on twenty one ninety

1171
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 4: for like six months to build it from scratch, which

1172
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 4: was like really fun and really exciting I think for

1173
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 4: a lot of our team members where they maybe weren't

1174
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 4: there in the beginning of Blavity when we started like

1175
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: almost three years ago, and so it was like the

1176
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: first time where all of us were all hands on

1177
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 4: deck building something from scratch.

1178
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's been You obviously had like free time,

1179
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: so you're just running a company and you decide to

1180
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: go ahead and launch a new project on the side,

1181
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: so it must have been really special. Tell me what

1182
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 3: is twenty one ninety and why did you decide, you know,

1183
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: early in Blavity to sort of pivot and do something

1184
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: a little bit different too.

1185
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, So twenty one ninety is a new media brand

1186
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 4: underneath the umbrella Glavity, but it's specifically focused on women

1187
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 4: of color, and it's all about health and wellness and

1188
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 4: hair and beauty and very much focused on like trying

1189
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 4: new things and discovery and living your best life. And

1190
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 4: we found out early on that Blavity attracted a lot

1191
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: of women, probably because of me, because I'm always like,

1192
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 4: write more about women, write more about feminism. But once

1193
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 4: we realized that that was a huge part of our audience,

1194
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: we also started to learn more about what they needed

1195
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 4: and what they were looking for, and oftentimes that translated

1196
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 4: into things about new products, new ways of life, new

1197
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 4: habits that they wanted to form, like waking up earlier

1198
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 4: or establishing a workout routine. And that content just didn't

1199
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: really fit with the Blavity brand specifically. You know, it

1200
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: wasn't pop culture, it wasn't news, it wasn't really ever

1201
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: going to go viral. We weren't going to write an

1202
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 4: article about veganism and get a million views in two hours, right,

1203
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 4: And so we had to think about it a little differently.

1204
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 4: And that's kind of that's where the that's where we

1205
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 4: started to get curious and started to think about what

1206
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 4: we could create to solve that problem.

1207
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Speaker 3: And what's the what is twenty one ninety mean? Where

1208
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: does that come from?

1209
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 4: So twenty one nineties stance for it takes about twenty

1211
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 4: one days to create a lifestyle or to create a

1212
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: habit and ninety days to form a lifestyle. So it's

1213
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 4: just about like, how do we as women be intentional

1214
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 4: about what we're doing every single day and how does

1215
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 4: that over time lead to this progress and the lifestyle change.

1216
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I never thought about the difference between like

1217
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: what is it that makes what's different between a habit

1218
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 3: and a lifestyle?

1219
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 4: Right? So, like a habit is something that you do,

1220
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 4: you know, every day, right, or it's something that you

1221
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: can do automatically, right, and you don't have to think

1222
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: about it, whether that is brushing your teeth or waking

1223
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 4: up before seven am, or meditation. I feel like a

1224
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 4: lifestyle is, in a lot of ways, like a contra

1225
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 4: holistic approach to how you move through the world. And

1226
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: you know that could be something as simple as like

1227
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 4: you don't eat meat, which is probably the action now

1228
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 4: that's simple, right, But you don't eat meat, and that's

1229
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 4: that's a lifestyle choice. That's not necessarily a habit, right.

1230
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: The habits are little choices that you make that form

1231
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: up your lifestyle.

1232
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: M interesting, and that's why it's so much harder, right,

1233
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: creating a lifestyle since it's so many different and it

1234
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: takes a lot more like it's not just like your

1235
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: program to do it. It's like a conscious effort to struggle.

1236
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: I can totally identify. I just spent the last like

1237
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: two months trying to eat fish and veggie, so I

1238
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 3: can I wanted to look great on my wedding day.

1239
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was hard.

1240
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: It's it's always helpful with the lifestyle. Is something fun,

1241
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 3: you know, But after.

1242
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 4: All performed a habit to like not eat certain things.

1243
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: Have I built a habit to not eat certain things?

1244
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 5: Well?

1245
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. Some life styles are chosen. I

1246
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: So I've been struggling with lactose intolerance, which sounds like,

1247
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: you know, not the biggest deal, but it is kind

1248
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 3: of a big deal. I and I chose two years

1249
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 3: ago to just really embrace it, like stop making myself sick,

1250
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 3: you know, eating cheese and just see what would happen

1251
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: if I quit all dairy. And what happened is I

1252
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 3: got even more sensitive to the point where if any cheese,

1253
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: like if you sprinkle parmesan on something, I am done,

1254
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: Like wow, you know I have to carry lactate around

1255
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: like for emergency. He's like a fifty year old dude,

1256
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: and and so in that case, like it's a lifestyle

1257
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: that I chose, but it's not great because like you're

1258
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: always tempted, but it has so many benefits that it

1259
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 3: sort of outweighs them.

1260
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1261
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Speaker 3: It's funny though with lifestyles, and I don't want to

1262
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: get too far off track, but it's it's like people judge,

1263
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, it's I totally and I'm sure anyone can

1264
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: relate who you know, whether it's your giving of meat

1265
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: or you're gonna quit smoking? Are you gonna you know,

1266
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, ride on a unicycle every day for

1267
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 3: an hour. But the fact that I, you know, it's

1268
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: people have a comment about everything, and I don't know

1269
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: what it is, but is we sort of like lost

1270
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: respect or like like a little bit of empathy. I

1271
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: guess for people who make certain lifestyle choices and you know,

1272
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 3: want to judge or I don't know, I guess look

1273
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 3: that people project their own insecurity on others who've made

1274
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: a certain change. Does that make any sense?

1275
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. I mean a lot

1276
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: of times these choices are very personal and like you're

1277
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 4: the only one that has to wake up and decide

1278
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 4: not to eat dairy and to live with the consequences

1279
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 4: if you do right, like it's no one no one

1280
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: else's body. So yeah, I definitely agree with you. People

1281
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 4: can be kind of judgy.

1282
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: There seems to be like you mentioned meditation earlier, I mean,

1283
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 3: and veganism. I mean, it seems to be like a

1284
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: very conscious effort to sort of celebrate healthier lifestyle choices.

1285
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: Do you like, what was that an intentional choice? Do

1286
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 3: you feel like?

1287
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you look at the data about diabetes,

1288
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: heart conditions, like, we do not do well as women

1289
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: of color, like at all, and part of that is

1290
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 4: just learned habits and lifestyle choices that were passed down

1291
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: to us from our mothers, from our families, from our gatherings.

1292
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I can remember, you know, family gatherings. My

1293
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 4: parents are pretty healthy, but we would have ribs, mac

1294
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: and cheese, homemade roles like just bread on bread with

1295
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 4: the campi and sweet potato pie, just on a normal

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Speaker 4: family gathering, not even Thanksgiving. And you know, I look

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Speaker 4: at that stuff now and I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: what were we doing? Like that's not okay. And I

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Speaker 4: think for women of color like that idea that we

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Speaker 4: should be changing our lifestyle is something that we're all

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Speaker 4: very curious of and conscious of, particularly now that we

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Speaker 4: have things like Instagram where we can follow all these

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Speaker 4: like healthy fit people. We don't necessarily know how to

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Speaker 4: get there, and so we wanted to create different types

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Speaker 4: of content that gave people some options and said, this

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Speaker 4: is how you get there. We're interviewing really cool women

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Speaker 4: about their own habits and their own choices and kind

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Speaker 4: of walking through their routines and what they eat every

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Speaker 4: day and their makeup routine or their skin routine. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's evolving, but it's been pretty fun to learn all

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Speaker 4: of these cool things that I never knew about, particularly

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Speaker 4: because I'm from like Missouri, which is like not necessarily

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Speaker 4: the most progressive place on earth.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I hear you. I mean my family growing up,

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Speaker 3: like when you talk about eating healthy, and you know,

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Speaker 3: that was totally My dad used to own a soul

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 3: food restaurant, and you know, any family gathering, like my

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Speaker 3: uncle Ray would constantly have like sweet potato pie and

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Speaker 3: like just a house full of sweets and you know,

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Speaker 3: delicious food, and if you didn't eat it, it was

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Speaker 3: like what's wrong with you? You know, what's wrong with that? Right,

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Speaker 3: which I think is it kind of goes back to

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Speaker 3: what I was saying before. I think, especially in the

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Speaker 3: African American community, we're like like judge of or can

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Speaker 3: be judgy and unempathetic to people who try to make

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Speaker 3: you know, healthier, healthier lifestyle choices. To an extent, I

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Speaker 3: think that's that's definitely changing. My dad had gastric bypass

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Speaker 3: surgery two years ago and it's been incredible. His transformation

1329
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: inspired him. And now he's getting onto me for not

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Speaker 3: you know, when he sees me eating you know, white

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01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: and white bread and starches, and he texts me pictures

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Speaker 3: of his like healthy meals all the time, which has

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Speaker 3: been fun. Have you seen that kind of that sort

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Speaker 3: of response as well.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean my whole my fam, my parents, both

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Speaker 4: my parents. Now I go home and I'm like, we're

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01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 4: the leftovers, and I was like, we don't cook leftovers,

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Speaker 4: like we have portion control, and I'm like, okay, I

1339
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: wanted to eat this extra steak for breakfast, you know,

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01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 4: but that's definitely was not the case growing up. But

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Speaker 4: I think if they go for walks after dinner, I

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01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 4: think what we're trying to do with twenty one ninety

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01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: is like skip that whole rediscuss part and start off right.

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 4: You know, you know, they're in their fifties and I

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 4: feel like if they had made those life choices when

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01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: they were in their thirties, like maybe some of the

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Speaker 4: health issues that my parents, I mean, they don't have

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01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: like crazy health issues, but they have some maybe they

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: could have skipped some of those.

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Speaker 3: Definitely. Now let's talk about empower Her because that was

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: a big deal last year. That was your very first conference.

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01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: Any lessons learned, and we'll first tell remind people what

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01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 3: empower Her is all about, and then talk about, you know,

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: lessons learned last year and how you're sort of leveling

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Speaker 3: up this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So empower Her is our women's conference for influencers and entrepreneurs.

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Speaker 4: It was in New York last year, sold out event,

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01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: around three fifty women. This year, we actually moved it

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Speaker 4: to Chicago and it's June ninth and tenth, and we

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01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: wanted to move it to Chicago. That was kind of

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Speaker 4: the first big change one because we feel like the

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01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 4: Chicago and the Midwest world always gets ignored, like events

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Speaker 4: are either in New York, Miami or LA maybe the

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Speaker 4: Bay right, but there are so many rockstar women growing

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01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 4: their own businesses, like working at really cool agencies in Lando. Oprah, Yeah, Oprah,

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01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 4: what's up exactly? I'm trying to get me and Oprah

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01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 4: are working on our relationship, but so so yeah, So

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Speaker 4: we that was the first thing. And we have a

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Speaker 4: huge audience in Chicago actually, and we hadn't done any

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Speaker 4: events there, so that was the first choice. And then

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Speaker 4: the second was like one, we wanted it to be bigger.

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01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 4: We felt like, you know, Blavity has grown significantly, so

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01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 4: we doubled the size and so it should be around

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01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 4: six hundred women this year. And we wanted to create

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01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 4: more spaces for people to have intimate conversations. So last

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Speaker 4: year we had panels of like four to five people.

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 4: We had three or four of those sized panels. This year,

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01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 4: we have no panel or discussion over three people. So

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a lot of like kind of

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: called a real talk conversations where you can actually stand

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01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 4: up and ask a question to some of these women

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01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 4: and you can have more casual dialogue on stage. It's

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 4: not super preachy, so that's the difference this year. Everyone

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 4: will be really approachable. It's a day and a half

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01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 4: and it should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: So what kind of people are you hoping we'll sign up?

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Speaker 3: Is this for every woman or women who are running

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01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 3: businesses or want to start a business? Like what is

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01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: sort of the what sort of takeaways where people get

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Speaker 3: from the speakers this year?

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Speaker 4: So the takeaways and the things the theme of the

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01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: conference is live your best life. So while we will

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01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 4: have most of the women on stage will be business leaders,

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01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 4: media creators, they create content with other their influencers, or

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 4: they will be entrepreneurs, but they range right, So we

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01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 4: have like a sim ceo of Travel Noir, we have Levy,

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01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 4: we have Nicole from EXE Nicole. We have so many

1399
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 4: amazing women Kira who's the editor in chief of Ebony,

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 4: just like really great women and they're going to talk

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 4: about their story and how they got to where they

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01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 4: are and then talk a little bit about their challenges.

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01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 4: And so we'll touch on tips and tip tricks, whether

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01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 4: that's in business or in their career. But we'll also

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01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 4: touch a lot on the personal side.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, where does this sort of fit in?

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01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: I mean from your perspective with Glavity, why empower her

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01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: and you know you have empowered her? You have twenty

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 3: one ninety. I mean, do you see yourself sort of

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01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: focusing more on these And you said you hired someone

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01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: else to sort of take the reins at Blavity. Was

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: that so you would be free to pursue some of

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01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: these more female focused endeavors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So when I think of Blavity, I mean, our

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01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 4: goal and our mission is to create awesome experiences for

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01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: black people, period, and mostly young black people, right if

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 4: I have to be specific, and that means online and offline.

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of ignotic about how we do that

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 4: and through which brand. You know, Blavity has a very

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: clear audience and a very clear voice, and we wanted

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01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 4: to create the space for a new voice, and that's

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01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 4: twenty one ninety and empower Her and twenty one ninety

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01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 4: will basically live under the same brand, and then Blavity

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 4: and Afrotech will live under that brand. And we have

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01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 4: a few more surprises coming out in a few weeks

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01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: which I think everyone will be very excited about, which

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Speaker 4: will introduce another a third brand. So we're thinking. I mean,

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Speaker 4: for me, as kind of the leader of the company

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 4: and the CEO, it's important that I figure out how

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01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: to serve our audience in multiple ways, so we're diversifying

1431
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 4: our business, but then we're also being able to serve

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01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 4: people better because it's specific and it's not a one

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 4: size fits all model for the black community. It's just not.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about some you know, I'm a financial reporter.

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: I like talking about dollars and cents, and for me,

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01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 3: it's interesting because media is evolving so quickly and changing

1437
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: so fast, and where people get their news obviously is

1438
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: a world different. You don't need mean to tell you that,

1439
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: but I'd love to talk about like the success of

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01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: blavity and how you're translating that into twenty one to ninety.

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01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 3: I mean, how are you guys doing? Are you are

1442
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: you profitable? Are you still raising money? Are you getting

1443
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 3: interest from investors? And how is that going?

1444
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I raised our latest round in over the fall,

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01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 4: fall and winter, and that was really helpful at bringing

1446
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 4: in some senior management into the company to kind of

1447
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 4: give me and my co founders a little bit more

1448
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 4: wiggle bram to be strategic and to work on kind

1449
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 4: of the twelve to eighteen month version of Blavity, the

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 4: version of Blavity, you guys will see you in a

1451
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 4: year from now and so that they could help manage

1452
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 4: our team, manage our process as well as be a

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01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:59,879
Speaker 4: great representation representation of us to brands we work. Glavity

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 4: itself is it has a lot of great clients. We

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01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 4: work with HBO, we worked with Cadillac, We've worked with

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01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 4: the CDC, Netflix, lots of great kind of organizations that

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01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 4: are interested in the black consumer and black millennial specifically

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 4: the CDC. Yeah, Center for Disease Control.

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Speaker 3: Where does that come into play.

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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: We have a.

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Speaker 4: Campaign running that's promoting AIDS and HIV testing. We're the

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Speaker 4: perfect place for that, right the friendly voice. We're not

1463
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: super preachy, you know, it's like, look, people like this

1464
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 4: is still a.

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Speaker 3: Thing that's really you know, I feel like HIV AIDS,

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: it's been you've been hearing more about it, but you've

1467
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: really stopped hearing about it for a while, right.

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 3: And one of my dear friends came I hate that

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Speaker 3: it came out, but told me a few years ago

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Speaker 3: that he was he was HIV positive and there's just

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 3: like nothing, there was no conversation about. But I'm really

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01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 3: happy to see that it's becoming part of the conversation again.

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 3: And it's how amazing that you guys are contributing to

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 3: that and raising awareness.

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I feel like what's cool about Blavy is

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01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 4: like when we do campaigns in that nature, which are

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01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: a little bit more serious, you know, it still gets

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01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 4: the same engagement rates. I mean, we have the data

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01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: to show that people may not necessarily share the article,

1481
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 4: right because like you know, there's lots of weird stigmas

1482
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 4: and assumptions that people might make, but they will click

1483
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: if you get that article in front of them, they

1484
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 4: will click it because people want to know that.

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01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 3: Window is everything every day, right, go incognito and click cloud.

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01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 4: So so yeah, I mean it's it's been fun for

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01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 4: us to work on some of those more serious campaigns.

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01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 4: We have a few other ones that are coming out,

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01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: and those are the ones where it's like this is

1490
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 4: this is why we build the company, right. We built

1491
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 4: it so that we can seem move between really funny

1492
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 4: memes and talking about the you know, the upcoming shows

1493
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 4: coming out or the new season of Get Down, and

1494
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 4: then talk about like, okay, but you guys need to

1495
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 4: go get tested, right or like have you what's up

1496
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 4: with your student debt? Have you been paying that down?

1497
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: Like why are you going to Dubai right, so, you know,

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01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 4: but but hey, I'm not mad.

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01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: Maybe the travel nowir will have something to say about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's up?

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01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's so speaking of like sort of pretty

1502
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: new brands in the future of Blavity. Who's do you

1503
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 3: have a mentor do you have someone you're leaning on

1504
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: to sort of see you know, where what Blavity can

1505
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 3: become and sort of helping you along or you guys

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: just really just you know, you know, following your own

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Speaker 3: gut as you go along. Have you taken on advice

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Speaker 3: and how have you sort of applied that to the company.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a lot of advisors. I have personal advisors.

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Speaker 4: I have like a lot of peer advisors. A lot

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Speaker 4: of the people that like Blavity features, like at our conferences,

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Speaker 4: like all the women that I just named that are

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Speaker 4: speaking at the conference are friends, and we talked to

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Speaker 4: each other all the time about different things. Like I

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Speaker 4: literally screenshotted my chart of accounts and my accounting to

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Speaker 4: one of my friends so that she was building out

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Speaker 4: her quick books, you know, and so and then on

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Speaker 4: the kind of more official mentor advisory space. A lot

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Speaker 4: of my investors have actually been incredibly helpful. I mean,

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Speaker 4: investors are supposed to be helpful, but I actually are so.

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Speaker 4: Charles King, who is the founder of macro Ventures based

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Speaker 4: here in LA, has been really helpful. I can call him,

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Speaker 4: email him at anytime about Hey, I'm thinking about this

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Speaker 4: different deal, Like do you know anyone in this space?

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Speaker 4: You know a lawyer? I can talk to. Another person

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Speaker 4: who's been very helpful is Michael Rothman. He was early

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Speaker 4: at Thrillist and it's the CEO of a media company

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Speaker 4: called Fatherly and it's a niche media company. So he

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Speaker 4: really understands how to grow a niche media brand. And

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Speaker 4: he has helped me so much. I mean he put

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Speaker 4: in a small kind of like angel check into the company,

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Speaker 4: but he has saved me like fifty thousand dollars if

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Speaker 4: not more, in the last like three months, you know,

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Speaker 4: because he knows what he's doing already. And I could

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Speaker 4: be like, hey, should I hire this firm or should

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Speaker 4: I hire a person on salary? He's like, no, hire

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Speaker 4: the firm, and this is how much you can negotiate

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Speaker 4: with this person. So yeah, it's been really helpful to

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Speaker 4: have that circle of mentors, peer mentors, and then people

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Speaker 4: who've been doing this for a long time around me.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever have like when you're first turning out

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Speaker 3: of me? It must have been it wasn't like you

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Speaker 3: can just call up these people right away. Yeah, when

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Speaker 3: did you feel like you hit the turning point where

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Speaker 3: it was like, oh, people are answering my calls now

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Speaker 3: and you know and taking me seriously.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a great question. You know, I

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Speaker 4: think that And this is kind of my advice to

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Speaker 4: people who want to get to that place where they

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Speaker 4: have really qualified who are very helpful for them. So

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01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 4: you have to provide value back to them, right Like,

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Speaker 4: you have to think about what is what is their

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01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 4: connection to you doing for them? And it could be

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Speaker 4: something as simple as they see something in you and

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Speaker 4: it makes them feel good to feel like they're a

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Speaker 4: part of your journey because they are, and like then

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Speaker 4: you need to change your actions to make sure that

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Speaker 4: they align with that motivation. For say, fatherly, for Michael Rothman,

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Speaker 4: you know, he is building this niche media brand, and

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Speaker 4: so I can share stuff about what I'm learning building

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Speaker 4: blavity with him, and so he's getting access to some

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Speaker 4: of my information. We're both going back and forth, like oh,

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Speaker 4: I've you talked to this person? I've you talked to

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Speaker 4: that person. I mean, he's definitely helping me a thousand

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Speaker 4: times more than I'm helping him. But there is that

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Speaker 4: connection and that we're both interested in building something from

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Speaker 4: the ground up for specific audience.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Macro is building incredible making and funding incredible content. They're

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Speaker 4: one of one of the main financers of Fences and

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Speaker 4: a lot of really cool shows coming out. We can

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Speaker 4: share information about digital marketing and like, this is what

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Speaker 4: the cool young kids and Instagram are thinking, and you know,

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Speaker 4: here's where I would go if I were going to

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Speaker 4: advertise this movie, or like what this demographic might think

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Speaker 4: about this? Right, And so we can do that kind

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Speaker 4: of information sharing as well. So I guess my advice

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Speaker 4: for those who are kind of interested in building a

1579
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Speaker 4: really strong network of advisors is to have something valuable,

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Speaker 4: like have something and be humble, But that means having

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Speaker 4: something that really is worthy of their time. You have

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Speaker 4: to put the work in before they're going to really

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Speaker 4: help and invest in you.

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Speaker 3: Lot it well, Thanks so much, Morgan, always a pleasure

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Speaker 3: to have you on concrats on Blavity. Continued success. You

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Speaker 3: have to let us know more about empower her when

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Speaker 3: those details are up. And in the meantime, everyone you

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Speaker 3: should go to twenty one ninety dot com two one

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Speaker 3: I Okay, Anny, okay, So that's two one N I

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Speaker 3: N E t y dot com, twenty one ninety dot com,

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Speaker 3: concrats Morgan and yeah, anytime, let us know when you

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Speaker 3: want to come back.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, talk to you guys.

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Speaker 3: So all right, guys, that's it for Brown Ambition this week.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being patient while we were on our

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Speaker 3: little mini hiatus. But we're back now. I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: be back and we will be back with a fresh

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Speaker 3: new episode next week.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, we are back. We are black, we are brown,

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Speaker 2: and we are ambitious.

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Speaker 3: If you're listening in the morning, check out Tiffany on

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Speaker 3: the Real check your local listings. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: time it comes on.

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Speaker 1: I don't honestly, I don't even know what time they

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Speaker 1: gonna because you capen and let you know. Usually within

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Speaker 1: the week, no, but probably yeah, later this week, like

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Speaker 1: a Thursday Friday. So so you folks would be able

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Speaker 1: to watch. Just follow me on the budget LISTA on

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Speaker 1: social media and i'll post.

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Speaker 3: Please do all right, good buck, all right, thank you.