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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, well come, well come, well come.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is episode sixty seven of

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Speaker 1: Native Lampod. I am your co host, Angela Raie. My

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Speaker 1: co host Tiffany Cross and Andrew Gillim are with us

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Speaker 1: today and we have so much to talk about. I

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Speaker 1: got to tell you guys. One of these things that

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Speaker 1: is that's really been on my mind all morning. Y'all know,

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Speaker 1: I was yelling about it on the pre production call.

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Speaker 1: Is Elon Musk having five on it saying that he's

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Speaker 1: considering a five thousand dollars tax credit, which seems like

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Speaker 1: it's another STEMI check to folks who may be not

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Speaker 1: as familiar with what's really going on to reading that

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Speaker 1: fine print. So that's one of the things I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about, tiff Andrew. What you guys got, Well,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you.

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Speaker 3: Guys sent us in questions, and so I want to

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Speaker 3: make sure that we get to your questions. There was

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Speaker 3: one particular question about participating in local elections, which I

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Speaker 3: think is extra are important right now. So throughout the show,

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Speaker 3: we'll be taking your viewer questions. But there's one particular

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Speaker 3: on local elections that I'll dive into.

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Speaker 4: And you know, ladies, the uh uh, the American people

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Speaker 4: have been watching again on a squivel, all these court cases,

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Speaker 4: all these filings. We all want to know what do

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Speaker 4: they mean? And so the question of do these court

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Speaker 4: cases matter at all? And are they having any impact

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Speaker 4: on curbing this administration? I want to get into that.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it. Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Can I just tell you guys something, Yeah, outside the window,

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Speaker 3: is Lady Gaga trying to eavesdrop on our podcast.

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Speaker 4: I think you should go say hello and take the

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Speaker 4: camera with you.

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Speaker 3: Until I keep looking in the window over here, I'm like, I.

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Speaker 1: Need some aternatives make up so I can't hear more

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 4: She was whispering.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want her listening. We're going to make sure

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Speaker 1: we keep that in the show, just for you, lady,

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Speaker 1: Welcome home, so I really keep it speak speaking of

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Speaker 1: things that matter, we're talking about do court cases matter.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that we talked about is it

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Speaker 1: seems like a court case matter. There may have been

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Speaker 1: some justice just a couple days ago with the acquittal

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Speaker 1: of asab Rocky. But with everybody else in the country

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Speaker 1: and the cases that are being brought against this administration,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like they're mattering, especially when you have

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Speaker 1: a president who says things like this and signs executive

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Speaker 1: orders to support this. Can we roll that clip?

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Speaker 5: Lastly, we have another executive order that President Trump signed

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Speaker 5: relating to independent agencies. This executive order would establish important

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Speaker 5: oversight functions in the Office of Management and Budget and

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Speaker 5: its subsidiary office OHIRA, supervising independent agencies and many of

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Speaker 5: their actions, and also re establishes the long standing norm

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Speaker 5: that only the President or the Attorney General can speak

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Speaker 5: for the United States when stating in opinion as to

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Speaker 5: what the law is.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the primary purpose of this conference. So

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Speaker 1: here's why this matters. Of course, we've talked about already

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Speaker 1: or not this is this This moment is defined as

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Speaker 1: a constitutional crisis when you have three co equal branches

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Speaker 1: I think that what we have to acknowledge is that

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Speaker 1: then the administration visa VI your new president South African

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk coming around to say, actually, only the president

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Speaker 1: he breaks no laws. All of these things combined with

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Speaker 1: And you have them signing the executive order saying, hell

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Speaker 4: So what is the honestly I mean, it says since

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Speaker 4: what is the long standing practice? You see it was

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Speaker 4: unfamiliar with the long held practice, Tiff or Angela, do

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Speaker 4: either of you all? I mean, they make up stuff

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Speaker 4: all the time. I just want to just one of them.

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Speaker 1: They're taking it up like we don't even have to

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 1: It runs a foul of what is printed on paper.

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Speaker 1: In the United States Constitution, full stop. There are three

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Speaker 1: co equal branches of government. The legislative branch are the

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Speaker 3: I have to say, guys, I think this whole and

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Speaker 3: I've said this before, and I think we have to

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Speaker 3: these political norms are core democratic institutions that have existed

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Speaker 6: It is not.

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Speaker 3: I think we have to give serious consideration to it's

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Speaker 3: pixie dust. It doesn't exist. And I think that power

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Speaker 3: And I think that speaks to the heart of your point,

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Speaker 3: This old, you know, antiquated document does not serve us anymore.

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Speaker 3: what happens at the Supreme Court level. From the blitz

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Speaker 3: The Conservative Supreme Court bought and paid for. As we've

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Speaker 3: gets flewed out? The Conservative Supreme Court will weigh in

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Speaker 3: on does this administration have the right to fire the

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Speaker 3: I predict, will defy the courts once that happens. What

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Speaker 3: does that mean? It's like a question we asked in

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Speaker 3: then what is a law? If the administration can consolidate

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Speaker 3: and President Elon Musk.

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Speaker 1: Then what does that?

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Speaker 3: What is the three co equal branches of government? I

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Speaker 3: just think we're in the outer bounds now are of

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Speaker 3: don't say shit to me about mid terms.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. Don't even talk care necessarily.

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Speaker 1: This is my point.

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Speaker 3: We are greely supposes that we will have another election.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know that we're there. Either the courts

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Speaker 3: We've truly not been here before. But I will say,

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Speaker 3: Is the general case inspectors General the only one want

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Speaker 1: Yes, but is it a special Council or Inspector General.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the only this is the only appeal

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Speaker 4: Goes direct major. It means that it lands that the

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Speaker 4: jurisdiction of this case lands directly at the United States

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Speaker 4: It is immediately at the Supreme Court. And I would

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Speaker 4: the executive branch exists of one person and one person only.

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Speaker 4: the overall picture as it relates to applying the law

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Speaker 4: to the actions of this administration have gone the way

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Speaker 4: that many of us would would appreciate and value, the

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Speaker 4: way of upholding and sustaining democracy. But I will tell

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Speaker 4: you this, what has not been the proper check is

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Speaker 4: the Congress of the United States, the Senate in the House,

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Speaker 4: which have by and large allowed this man to do

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Speaker 4: exactly what he wants to without the check and balance

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Speaker 4: being enforced by their branch of government. They are to

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Speaker 4: shut it down, or, as Tiffany already pointed out, once

447
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Speaker 4: powers are taken, they are really really rarely ever giving

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Speaker 4: back given by ever.

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Speaker 1: I one thing to tiff and I want to get

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Speaker 1: to said Rocky is one point because well, I'm following

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Speaker 1: because as a woman, I know a lot of what

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Speaker 1: Andrew just said. So I'm learning as a as a

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Speaker 1: woman of color judge. So Tanya Chukin, who she said

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Speaker 1: a lot in this case. She I think this is

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Speaker 1: why it's so important to your point Tiff earlier, to

456
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Speaker 1: not just read headlines if you're reading it all, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: reading headlines and going beyond. When you get into the

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Speaker 1: actual print of her opinion, she says some things. Two

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Speaker 1: things that I want to point out. One is, she says,

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Speaker 1: plaintiffs raised this again. This is about the state's attorney's

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Speaker 1: general who brought this case against DOJE. It's overreach, its

462
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Speaker 1: access to our very private information. She says, plaintiffs raise

463
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Speaker 1: a colorable appointments caught clause claim with serious implications must

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Speaker 1: has not been nominated by the President nor confirmed by

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Speaker 1: the US Senate, to Andrew's point, as constitutionally required for

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Speaker 1: officers who exercise quote significant authority pursuant to the laws

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Speaker 1: of the United States. And then she says in a footnote,

468
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Speaker 1: and this is one that I know that you all appreciate.

469
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Speaker 1: Just on truth. This is what she tells DOJ Defense

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Speaker 1: Council is reminded of their duty to make truthful representations

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Speaker 1: to the court. And so I think what she's indicating.

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Speaker 1: I think what she's indicating here is there is a

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Speaker 1: pathway but they just picked the wrong lane. The lane

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Speaker 1: has to be a plaintiff, especially for an emergency order,

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Speaker 1: it has to be an immediate suffer an imminent irreparable

476
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Speaker 1: harm that would only occur or that can only be

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Speaker 1: stopped with a temporary emergency restraining order. And if that

478
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Speaker 1: standard's not meant that she needs more time. Kse ain't

479
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Speaker 1: been dismissed, case ain't been thrown out, right, It's just

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Speaker 1: this one part of it, this one chapter in the

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Speaker 1: book where we're not quite there, And I think people

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Speaker 1: need to remember that in order to hold on to

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Speaker 1: hope for justice. That said, we still with this where

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Speaker 1: we started, which is, dude, these cases even matter because

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, is Donald Trump going

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Speaker 1: to comply with the court order? It's not clear that

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Speaker 1: he will.

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Speaker 3: And I will bet you all most people don't even

489
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Speaker 3: know about this court case.

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Speaker 1: I say this. I say this because.

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Speaker 3: Right, and my point is, they flood the zone like

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Speaker 3: I can't. At one point I felt like I was

493
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Speaker 3: a pretty informed person. I cannot keep up with it all.

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Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, there are things that I read

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Speaker 3: the headline and I don't read the article, you know,

496
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Speaker 3: Like I literally cannot hold it all. There are things

497
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Speaker 3: happening all over the globe that are major, and all of.

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Speaker 1: It is important, Angelie.

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Speaker 3: You were reading an opinion and something on Our friend

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Speaker 3: Albert always says, he's like, read the opinions, you know.

501
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Speaker 3: He's like, they're literally written for public consumption, to make

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Speaker 3: you understand. And I what you just read to me

503
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Speaker 3: does not sound like public consumption to me. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: explain it to me, like I'm a five year old,

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Speaker 3: you know, And I don't have any shame in that, Like,

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Speaker 3: I that's not what I understand, So explain it to me.

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Speaker 3: And I think so many people out there feel that

508
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Speaker 3: exact same way about the courts, about how government functions,

509
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Speaker 3: about what's happening in the world, and so given all

510
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Speaker 3: the chaos, they're like, fuck this, I check out, I

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Speaker 3: get it, you know, let me.

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Speaker 1: Let me translate. If I translate for ten seconds, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you cliff notes. You you, I think you

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Speaker 1: got the cliff note on DJB lions. Stop lying to

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Speaker 1: the court. You're gonna go to jail maybe if we

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Speaker 1: can enforce the core order. And then the bigger cliff

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Speaker 1: note is if you not Senate confirmed Elon Musk, sit

518
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Speaker 1: your whole ass down. That's what that means.

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Speaker 4: Social media means very much. So get there. This administration

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Speaker 4: could get there. I have no belief whatsoever that the

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Speaker 4: US Senator is gonna stand in the way of Elon Musk.

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Speaker 4: I have no belief whatsoever that they would stop him

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Speaker 4: from being confirmed. If Donald Trump knows that, and I

524
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Speaker 4: know he knows that, as does Elon Musk, why haven't

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Speaker 4: they put him up for confirmation? Why haven't they formally

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Speaker 4: requested the legislature submit a bill to create those for hearing.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have to sit for hearing. And also he

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Speaker 4: becomes he becomes responsible to comply to all of the

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Speaker 4: for you and disclosure laws and so on and so

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Speaker 4: forth that God this country will. I'll submit my opinion

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Speaker 4: here because at Tiffany, I hear your point in Angela,

532
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Speaker 4: the question is ripe whether or not the courts matter.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, so long as they continue to

534
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Speaker 4: create appeals and to take cases to the court itself,

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Speaker 4: I believe that there is still hope for the court

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Speaker 4: to still have its way with its respective decisions. The

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Speaker 4: question that is still outstanding for me, and so far

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Speaker 4: as it's been answered. The third branch of government, which

539
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Speaker 4: is actually the original branch of government, the legislative branch,

540
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Speaker 4: appears completely incapable of upholding their end of the constitutional bargain.

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Speaker 4: They completely are right now delegating, relegating, decreasing from their position,

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Speaker 4: and allowing the executive branch to run rough shot over them.

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Speaker 4: And that's I think the bigger problem is that's true.

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Speaker 1: Now, speaking of justice and justice being served, yes, perhaps

545
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Speaker 1: some of us we should actually ask our audience, do

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Speaker 1: y'all agree that Asap Rocky should have been acquitted? I

547
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Speaker 1: do reparations, bitch, So Asap Rocky. For some of y'all

548
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Speaker 1: don't even notice. But that's Rihanna's man, y'all, So Asap Rocky.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 4: That's so good. Many women are told, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Rocky, I like Rocky. I said, this was a silver liner.

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Speaker 1: I said, for those of you who don't know, who

553
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Speaker 1: only read a one tiff the Cliff Rocky song. To

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Speaker 1: be honest with y'all, Rihanna's man, and he's a fashionis sto.

555
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Speaker 1: They have two beautiful boys. Now. Anyway, this man jumped

556
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Speaker 1: across the backside of this court bench thing to hug

557
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Speaker 1: her and his mom and them after he was acquitted.

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Speaker 1: Now he was facing two felony counts of assault with

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Speaker 1: a deadly weapon. This came from a fight that he

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Speaker 1: had with one of his longtime friends. When they went

561
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Speaker 1: to the scene of the crime, they weren't able to

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Speaker 1: find these shellcasings. This man said he got shot, but

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Speaker 1: he only had some scratches, and so the police went

564
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Speaker 1: or like, we can't find no casings. Asab Racki saying

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Speaker 1: this is a stunt gun or whatever. It's not called

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Speaker 1: a stunt gun prop gun and no, not a taste

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Speaker 1: a prop gun. It is how rumors get started.

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Speaker 4: Called him like what stunt, a stunt a prop gun.

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Speaker 1: So the prop gun was allegedly used to threaten him

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Speaker 1: to calm down. A Sabraki's allegedly fire said gun to

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Speaker 1: scare him. This man's knuckles got scratched. He said, my

572
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Speaker 1: friend shot me. So they went to go try to

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Speaker 1: find these nine mili nine millimeters shell casings, couldn't find them. Somehow,

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Speaker 1: when old boy goes back to the scene, he finds

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Speaker 1: said casings is a suggestion that no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: The boy said he shot his homeboy said, who said,

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Speaker 1: asab Rocky shot him. Then he comes back to the

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Speaker 1: asab Rocky and he's like, yo, I got these shell cases.

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna do? So a sav was like, he's

580
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Speaker 1: trying to extort me. Old boy, trying to extort me.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna ride this thing till the wheels fall off.

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking no plea deal to make y'all look

583
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Speaker 1: good prosecutors. I'm gonna ride this thing because I know

584
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Speaker 1: that the truth is with me and the jury decided

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Speaker 1: in his favor. That is my most translatable version I

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Speaker 1: can give you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because honestly, the way it was explained to me

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Speaker 3: I want to hear it by a friend who's an attorney,

589
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Speaker 3: is like he was offered this plea deal. He could

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Speaker 3: have done six months and he would have been in

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Speaker 3: and out and he was. The way he was presenting

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Speaker 3: it to me is like it's not looking good for him,

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Speaker 3: like he's not Everybody was trying to.

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Speaker 1: Say that they didn't listen to the other side. They

595
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Speaker 1: didn't listen to the other side. This motherfucker said, my

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Speaker 1: knuckles got shot off. He had some scratches, and after

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Speaker 1: the scratches they couldn't find the casings. The only time

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Speaker 1: the casings turn up is when all boy goes to

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Speaker 1: find the cases himself. And I forgot to tell you

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Speaker 1: he had just went to the gun range shooting a

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Speaker 1: nine millimeters So interestingly, some nine millimeter casings come up. Honest,

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Speaker 1: that is peculiar.

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Speaker 3: But what I andrew, what I take from this is

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Speaker 3: when an aggressive prosecutor comes and it's telling you, like,

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Speaker 3: it ain't looking good for you, so we will take

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Speaker 3: a plea about six months. You go to jail for

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Speaker 3: six months and then but then you come out.

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Speaker 1: You have a record.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's all this on your for him to

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Speaker 3: have faith and say no, I can't, I can't agree

611
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Speaker 3: to that. That would be saying that I did something wrong,

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Speaker 3: I did something that I know I didn't do. And

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Speaker 3: that puts me in the mind of Leaf Prouder.

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Speaker 1: You know who said no.

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Speaker 3: You know the youth who they put in Riker's Island

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Speaker 3: with grown men, who was there simply because he couldn't

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Speaker 3: afford baill. He was offered to plead and he said no,

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Speaker 3: because that would be me saying I did something I

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Speaker 3: didn't do. And I just think of all the people,

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Speaker 3: disproportionately black men, who are in that situation because someone

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Speaker 3: convinced them I can give you, you know, you go

622
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Speaker 3: do five years and you'll be out, but if you

623
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Speaker 3: go to trial, you might get thirty years.

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Speaker 1: And how devastating that is for so.

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Speaker 4: Many I was there. Look, I got offered a talk

626
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Speaker 4: about Andrew, and it well, no, I mean, I just

627
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Speaker 4: it was probably in preparation for trial. It was probably

628
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Speaker 4: the lowest moment in trial pre prep when my lawyers

629
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Speaker 4: had to come to me, and I was so angry

630
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Speaker 4: at them. I think they would admit. I was just like,

631
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Speaker 4: why would you bring me this? I have a legal

632
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Speaker 4: obligation that to bring this to you for you to

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Speaker 4: make a decision. What they offered a g They wanted

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Speaker 4: me to admit guilt on one count and they would

635
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Speaker 4: have dropped the you know, the other twenty however many

636
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Speaker 4: accounts they bought against me. And I was so insulted,

637
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Speaker 4: I was offended, I was hurt, I was all these things,

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Speaker 4: and there's no mother than way I'm accepting any deal.

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Speaker 4: You can tell them when you go back, never ever

640
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: ever to approach me again with any bargain unless it

641
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Speaker 4: is we're dropping all charges and we apologize for having

642
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 4: turned your life upside goddamned down to pursue a case

643
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 4: that was no case at all. So but but for

644
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Speaker 4: most people, when you look at the percentage of federal cases,

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00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: ninety percent of them, the defendant is found guilty or

646
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Speaker 4: they have already reached the bargain so it never goes

647
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Speaker 4: to trial. You're looking at ninety I mean, you got

648
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Speaker 4: the odds of ten percent, ten out of a dollar.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 4: Of course, the money will cause you to say, okay,

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Speaker 4: we can end this, and the bill can stop the

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Speaker 4: ability to have some predictability abround what's gonna happen if

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Speaker 4: I say okay and I only get three months, or

654
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Speaker 4: maybe I only get a year of probation or whatever

655
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Speaker 4: in a felony whatever, all of those decisions I get.

656
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Speaker 4: While some people say, yeah, I'll take it without even

657
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Speaker 4: being guilty. They take it because you're like, I'll take

658
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Speaker 4: the thing I know versus the risk of what I

659
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Speaker 4: don't know and the consequences that can come that could

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Speaker 4: keep me away from my wife and my kids and

661
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Speaker 4: my family for years. Right, So you might come to that.

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Speaker 4: But I appreciate this brother for fighting this thing all

663
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Speaker 4: the way through, knowing that writers writers, right. But the

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Speaker 4: truth is is that there are a lot of people

665
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: who were right and did not break the law who

666
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: are behind bars today because the deal was more predictable

667
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Speaker 4: and acceptable than the fighting of it and the not knowing,

668
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 4: because we don't get a fear shake in this system.

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Speaker 4: And I know that for a fact, and I know

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Speaker 4: it's that Rocky knows it for a fact, and I'm

671
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Speaker 4: just glad that in this case the justice prevailed. But

672
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: it never really is justice why because they never say

673
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Speaker 4: you're innocent. The judgment that they get to reach is

674
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Speaker 4: either you're guilty or not guilty. You're acquitted, or you're

675
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Speaker 4: found guilty. And so his life is still impacted. Regardless

676
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Speaker 4: of his resources or how bad his girl is or whatever.

677
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Speaker 4: His life has still been turned upside down and it's

678
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Speaker 4: going to take him some time to recuperate and recover

679
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Speaker 4: himself from what he's just gone through.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like ag based on everything you've experienced, that.

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Speaker 4: You have recovered, No, not at all.

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Speaker 1: I think that is so important for people to know,

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Speaker 1: one how much you had to spend to.

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Speaker 4: Ensure still spending.

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Speaker 1: The emotional, psychological, and the financial toll to argue your innocence,

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Speaker 1: that never to your point, you said earlier on a

687
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Speaker 1: pre pro call. Never nobody ever declares you innocent. You're

688
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Speaker 1: just acquitted, and you don't get reparations or restorative just

689
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Speaker 1: for the money you spent knowing you're not guilty. And

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Speaker 1: asap Rocky through all that could say to turn to

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Speaker 1: the jurors and say thank you for saving my life.

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Speaker 1: It's like somebody believed the story that is the truth,

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Speaker 1: and not the story that is painted by the prosecution.

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Speaker 4: And my case. What I appreciated even more is that

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Speaker 4: after the case was done, these jurors were released from

696
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Speaker 4: their responsibility, and what did they do. They started meeting

697
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: after my case, went down to the editorial board of

698
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Speaker 4: the local paper and they said, we cannot believe that

699
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: this case was ever bought. Wow, we cannot believe this

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Speaker 4: case made it through a grand jury. That's what they

701
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 4: went down and said. They organized themselves after they were

702
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Speaker 4: released from their responsibility, a jury where the majority of

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Speaker 4: people on it didn't even vote for me for governor

704
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 4: because those things were disclosed, right, But they went down

705
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Speaker 4: and they advocated because they saw a miscarriage of justice

706
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Speaker 4: and a miscarriage of the law. All I got to

707
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Speaker 4: say is that the effects of it are long term.

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Speaker 4: You'll a god knows. I pray to get passed and over,

709
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: but shows up every single day in a multitude of ways.

710
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Speaker 4: And I just try to hold it together long enough

711
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Speaker 4: not for it to be a drag on my children

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Speaker 4: and my family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to sat Rocky and Andrew to start

714
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Speaker 1: an organization. I believe me.

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Speaker 3: I know you are one hundred serious. I think anybody

716
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Speaker 3: listening knows orgization a year from now. Yeah, I honestly

717
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Speaker 3: I think that would be a good idea. And Andrew,

718
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Speaker 3: let me just say, like when you and I are together,

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00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: when the three of us are together, when I've seen

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Speaker 3: you with your family, you do a really good job

721
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Speaker 3: of you know, of course you're free whatever you're feeling

722
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: inside to share with us. We love you, but and

723
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: we've talked about it, but you you don't let it

724
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: weigh you down. You know, like you're still out here

725
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: doing what you can as best you can. And I

726
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: just want to say this entire show, I want you

727
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Speaker 3: to know this. I've looked at you and thought you

728
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Speaker 3: were showing cleavage and I realize now.

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Speaker 1: Oh my tipp is plowning today. First, lady, that ain't

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Speaker 1: even pleasure.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's not even his skin color.

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Speaker 1: Now podcast is officially disinformation. Congratulations, gess it looks all

733
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Speaker 1: the same. My screen is this? Somebody want to tiff

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Speaker 1: screen because that does not look like that looks like

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Speaker 1: andy s face that time that makeup artists try to make.

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Speaker 6: You look.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it. We're not in person on the screen.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely when you see it back, you're gonna be

739
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, Okay, sorry, we got a viewer question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I know we were

741
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Speaker 1: supposed to. After this break, we're gonna answer one of

742
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: your questions and talk about this five thousand dollars plan

743
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Speaker 1: circulating around DOGE and a refund to taxpayers.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 1: My name Michel.

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Speaker 7: I'm from the Philadelphia area, and the first thing I'd

747
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 7: like to say is what do you think about those

748
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 7: Super Bowl champs, the Philadelphia Eagles? But in terms of

749
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Speaker 7: your podcast, I want to say I enjoy your podcast.

750
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 7: I don't know where I was at, but I first

751
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 7: learned that you're about your podcast last year when I

752
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 7: heard Tiffany and Angela on a interview on the Young Turks.

753
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 7: I do listen to the Young Turks as I like

754
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Speaker 7: to have a variety of perspectives, and to that point,

755
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Speaker 7: I would love to hear what you all think about

756
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 7: a narrative that the Young Turks has been pushing of saying,

757
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 7: why not work with MAGA on the things that we

758
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Speaker 7: align to help manage the chaos that's going on. It

759
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Speaker 7: certainly feels like the or I think is apparent that

760
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Speaker 7: the guardrails that we think we have in the government

761
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Speaker 7: are not really holding. So I can understand where that

762
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Speaker 7: might seem like a possible solution.

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Speaker 1: Andrew, you reason like that in the mic back, Oh

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Speaker 1: my God, Jesus, doing you suggested I want a sandwich?

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Speaker 1: Andrew back?

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Speaker 4: Big sandwich, Andrew?

767
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Speaker 1: That is not obese friendly. In this podcast, we are

768
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Speaker 1: inclusive is going on.

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Speaker 4: You're the worst human ever.

770
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Speaker 1: You just started breathing heavy saying you wanted a sandwich?

771
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: What else does that mean?

772
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Speaker 4: I mean from your routiness.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's gonna get cut. You're just saying in though. Okay, anyway,

774
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: here's what I want to say. You guys have something controversial.

775
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Tiff is already inadvertently dragged me once in this show,

776
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: so this will be the official ten seconds.

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Speaker 3: Let me just say this, because then all about this

778
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Speaker 3: Number one, Angela reads all.

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Speaker 1: If you know and watch the show, Angela reads all

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 3: She's been doing a live Youtubes. There's a chance to

782
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Speaker 3: promote the live YouTube on executive orders. She at three

783
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Speaker 3: in the morning is dropping links to something she read it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was not trying to say Angela don't read.

785
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Speaker 4: She don't.

786
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Speaker 1: Most people.

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Speaker 3: Most people do not read, and I don't if Angela

788
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Speaker 3: feels that way, I don't want the viewers out there

789
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Speaker 3: who don't read to feel that way. It is not

790
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Speaker 3: a moral judgment. I'm not reading everything right now. My

791
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: point is multiple the elitist. Yes, Andrew, they.

792
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Speaker 1: Do both of them.

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Speaker 3: But Andrew mostly has said that my thoughts are elitists

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Speaker 3: before I will take it. I will take it, but

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Speaker 3: I just want I'm trying to say Angela doesn't read.

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Speaker 1: Most people don't read.

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Speaker 3: But Angela, iuly you can go through all the executive orders.

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Speaker 3: I can't like I haven't been keeping.

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Speaker 1: Up with Clearly I didn't go with one of them,

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Speaker 1: or that the court case. Okay, I'm not that redeemed,

801
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: but it's okay. I don't need to be redeemed. I

802
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Speaker 1: do need to talk about Howard dojing ball? See what

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Speaker 1: I did? They're doge Ball? No, Okay, I got it?

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Speaker 1: Is I like it? Thanks sports expert. So for doge Ball.

805
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Speaker 1: I think that if we're not careful and if they're smart,

806
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: if they go forward. There was a proposal presented to

807
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk by a man named James Fishback. I don't

808
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: know who this man is, but I stayed on Twitter

809
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: unlike some of the folks who couldn't wait to haul ass.

810
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Speaker 1: He presented a proposal to Elon Musk for a tax

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Speaker 1: credit of five thousand dollars per household from all of

812
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Speaker 1: the alleged savings that they were seeing from Doge's efforts,

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Speaker 1: all of the cuts they're making to programs, the jobs

814
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Speaker 1: they're cutting, all of that. This money would be redistributed

815
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Speaker 1: to the American people visa via tax credit. Some people

816
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: are calling this stimmy checks. Some people recognize that it's

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Speaker 1: a tax credit. And I think the most important thing

818
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: here is that this would only go to people who

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Speaker 1: file taxes in taxier twenty twenty five, and that they

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Speaker 1: have to be net payers. And I think that's important

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Speaker 1: because that means you have to have some employment that

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Speaker 1: demonstrates that you've paid into the system in order to

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Speaker 1: get this thing back. Now, James Fishback runs a right

824
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Speaker 1: leaning investment firm called Azoria. He is not a government employee,

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Speaker 1: but for that matter, neither well Elona is the government emplay.

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Speaker 1: I think he's getting paid, but he is not appointed

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Speaker 1: given the scope of work, as we've discussed earlier in

828
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Speaker 1: this podcast. And government employee I think he gets. Special

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Speaker 1: government employee is the designation in a paycheck.

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Speaker 3: We are tax dollars are paying the world's richest man.

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Speaker 1: I think, from what I understand, this special government employee

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Speaker 1: designation means he's an employee. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: drawing down a salary. If he's donating it back to

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Speaker 1: the government, that also can happen. But the designation given

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Speaker 1: to him by Donald Trump, so he didn't have to

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Speaker 1: file all the disclosures, clear all conflicts with special government employee.

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Speaker 1: Although special government employee also per one of my latest

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Speaker 1: solo pods, doesn't mean that you don't have any ethics responsibility.

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Speaker 1: He's just ignoring that. But I digress back to this

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars payment. Here's what I'm let me tell

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Speaker 1: you all my deepest fears. My deepest fears is that

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Speaker 1: people won't read the four page memo and they will

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Speaker 1: only read the headline from Fortune or Forbes that says

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk moles giving Americans a five thousand dollars check

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Speaker 1: based on those savings there.

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Speaker 4: Are coming from. This is from Fortune, you know the

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Speaker 4: check whose bank account?

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Speaker 1: This is coming from the when you file your taxes

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Speaker 1: with the iro government.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he wouldn't. I'm sorry, Elon Musk, a non full

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Speaker 4: time employee of the government, not confirmed in a department

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Speaker 4: that doesn't exist, is going to make a decision about

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Speaker 4: whether or not to rebate us five grand from our

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Speaker 4: own fucking money. Well, to be clear, he's going into

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Speaker 4: his billionaire wealthiest man in the world status and writing

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Speaker 4: the check from himself.

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Speaker 1: He's not writing the check, So just so we're clear,

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Speaker 1: He did say in response to James Fishback from wherever

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Speaker 1: this place is this, this right leaning investment firm that

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Speaker 1: launched an anti woke etf last year as well, James Fishback,

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Speaker 1: he said he told James Fishback, I will have to

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Speaker 1: run it by the president. But the headline is killing me, Tiff,

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Speaker 1: because we read headlines sometimes too Elon Musk males Americans. No,

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Speaker 1: I know why I was getting back into what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: but I'm trying to give credit, the little bit of

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Speaker 1: credit I can give him, a Doge credit, a Doge

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Speaker 1: crypto coin credit to Elon Musk for saying he would

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Speaker 1: at least have to ask the president. Here's my point, though,

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the same man that held up stimulate

870
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Speaker 1: funds to ensure that his name was on the check

871
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: going out to American people. Donald Trump is smart with

872
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: marketing in a lot of ways. He reaches people just

873
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: by repurposing and repackaging things. He's still getting credit for

874
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: stimulus checks when Joe Biden also did stimulus checks. Joe

875
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Speaker 1: Biden doesn't get that credit.

876
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Speaker 4: And you know what not and when the first check

877
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: that had his name on it came from Democrats who

878
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: were in control of the Congress incorporators. Remember I know here,

879
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: we know that steps.

880
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Speaker 1: My biggest fear. My biggest fear is that people see

881
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars tax credit line and they forget

882
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: everything else that has happened. The dismantling, the dismantling of

883
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: DEI programs that woul ensure a grant for your kid

884
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: doing research that could save lives, the money that is

885
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: taken away from HIV AIDS related care on the continent,

886
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: The fact that they are making fun of the men

887
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: in Mozambique who were gonna be a part of a

888
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: grant where they would be circumcised to prevent the wide

889
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: spread of HIV AIDS on the continent. All of the

890
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: things that are taking place where they're seeing it as waste,

891
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: fraud and abuse without really asking the people who are

892
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: in charge of these programs, what are they for If

893
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: you get a five thousand dollars credit but you suffer

894
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: a fifty thousand or one hundred thousand dollars loss, friends,

895
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Speaker 1: was it worth it?

896
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 6: So?

897
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to look like a hater by any

898
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Speaker 1: means necessary. Lola and I were talking about this earlier too,

899
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: but I got to tell y'all the truth. I have

900
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: an obligation to tell you all of the ways in

901
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: which we are being hit on an education level, on

902
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: a health human services level, on a HUD level, eventually

903
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: on a treasury level, on an IRS level, all the

904
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Speaker 1: places where your data has been compromised. Do you know

905
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: if there was a court case to talk about how

906
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: your private information was access and you can prove direct

907
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: harm to the point of what we were talking about earlier,

908
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: you would get paid out. Your settlement would be larger

909
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: than five damn dollars. So I want to be clear

910
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: about the wolf in sheep's clothing. I want to be

911
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: clear about the many ways in which we're being bamboozled.

912
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Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine what it's like for somebody who's

913
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: never seen a five thousand dollars check and what this

914
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: might mean to them. But I want you to know

915
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Speaker 1: your life is so much more valuable than this check,

916
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: than this tax credit. However, it makes its way to

917
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: you everything that is being lost right now across the board,

918
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: for veterans, for small children, for our elders, for the

919
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Speaker 1: people who are sick in our country, for the people

920
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Speaker 1: who are differently able than our country. I don't know

921
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Speaker 1: that it's worth it.

922
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Speaker 4: Oh to tell you, I know the answer. It ain't

923
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 4: worth it, because this is the big deal. This is

924
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 4: the big deal, because these are distractions, including this five

925
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: thousand and I love to have five thousand more dollars

926
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Speaker 4: in my pockets. I can pay more on my legal

927
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 4: debt that's sitting out there right. But the point is

928
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: they have proposed Donald Trump and the Republicans Tim Johnson

929
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: to speak of the House. They're about to a package

930
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Speaker 4: that is going to Mike Johnson, thank you. That's going

931
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Speaker 4: to bring me forward. That is about to bring forward

932
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Speaker 4: a budget proposal that includes four trillion dollars in tax

933
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Speaker 4: breaks to the wealthiest one percent, to the wealthiest Americans

934
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Speaker 4: and wealthiest corporations in this country. But guess what, y'all,

935
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Speaker 4: they have not figured out a way to pay for it,

936
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Speaker 4: and they have already given us a clue around how

937
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Speaker 4: it is that they're going to pay for Trump's tax breaks.

938
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Speaker 4: Do you want to know where it is coming from? Folks? Healthcare,

939
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Speaker 4: So you think about the last time you had a

940
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Speaker 4: medical emergency where you had a copay and you got

941
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Speaker 4: to walk away with just having paid five thousand all in.

942
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Speaker 4: When you consider medications, the cost of the care, the

943
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Speaker 4: long term consequences which may cause you to have to

944
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Speaker 4: lose your job because you have to tend to medical situations,

945
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Speaker 4: and therefore your retirement gets bounced because you have to

946
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Speaker 4: dip into that money early in order to make a

947
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Speaker 4: way for yourselves and for your family. So, when you

948
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Speaker 4: think about five thousand dollars. We don't have to we

949
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 4: don't have to imagine that we're gonna get worse on

950
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Speaker 4: the back end. They're telling us right now, this is

951
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 4: a five thousand is a distraction so that they can

952
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Speaker 4: get to the real goods. And the real goods is

953
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: they're going to cut Medicaid in this country, if not

954
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Speaker 4: in half and hole, certainly in significance enough form that

955
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Speaker 4: many of us will not even have access to healthcare anymore.

956
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: And those costs are going to be borne exclusively by you.

957
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: Well, even to the point, if we can back up

958
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 3: a bit, just indulge itself like they've just been lying

959
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 3: to the American people, and the media has done such

960
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 3: a shitty job of pointing out all the minutia in

961
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: the ways that they've lied. They how they have arrived

962
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: that they've saved the American people fifty five billion dollars

963
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: is unclear, literally unclear to print reporters who have poured

964
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: through these numbers unclear. They have found glaring errors. For example,

965
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Speaker 3: he has said that he won contract he cut was

966
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Speaker 3: eight billion dollars. The contract was actually eight million dollars.

967
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: That is a huge discrepancy. And when you're presenting this

968
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 3: lie that that you're canceling that the most recent version

969
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 3: of the and it was an ICE contract that was

970
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: eight million dollars that they cut. I would like to

971
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: know more questions about what exactly this means.

972
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: Angela.

973
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: You talked about them cutting off AIDS in HIV here

974
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 3: according to the reporting from Bloomberg, that is going to

975
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: come at the cost of two hundred and.

976
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: Fifty babies dying every day daily.

977
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 3: Now for all the people who are self reclaimed pro life,

978
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: this administration that you voted for is literally costing lives.

979
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on that?

980
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 6: So?

981
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: I think Angela made a really good point pointing out

982
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 3: that this five thousand dollars tax credit is not worth it. Andrew,

983
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 3: you made a good point like, no, it's not a credit.

984
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: You're paying for it Somewhere. I want people to know

985
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: it's blood money. Is literally the five thousand dollars you're

986
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: getting is literally costing people their life.

987
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 4: But it could also be their blood. Right when you

988
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: talk about extracting health care force from somebody, when you're

989
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: talking about cutting off the levers of support. Because I

990
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: know that there are a lot of people, including a

991
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: many in our community who are not that turned on

992
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 4: by US international investments, you don't have to go there.

993
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 4: We can set international investments to the side. Why because

994
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: USAIDEA is less than one percent of the budget. You

995
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 4: can't pay for four trillion dollars but one percent less

996
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 4: than one percent of the United States budget. You just

997
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: can't do it. The math won't math. So what do

998
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 4: you have to do. You have to go after big, huge,

999
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 4: wholesale pieces of the budget. And if you've already taken

1000
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 4: defense off the plate, and you've already done this little

1001
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 4: cutting around some of the staff, which again is not

1002
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 4: constituting a whole bunch of money at the end of

1003
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 4: the day, because they missed their goal of ten percent, right,

1004
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 4: And then you consider the costs when you talk about waste, fraud,

1005
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: and abuse, when you consider the cost of all of

1006
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: the private contractors that they are going to have to

1007
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: go out and hire for expertise. Why, because they fired

1008
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: the people inside the government who were government employees who

1009
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 4: did this work on a salary, they're going to escalate

1010
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: the cost of this government even more.

1011
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 6: So.

1012
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 4: What they really should have done is been very honest

1013
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 4: and basically said, we do not believe that the federal

1014
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: government ought to have employees. We believe that the entire

1015
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 4: federal budget ore to be farmed out in contracts to

1016
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 4: the private sector.

1017
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 1: To our friend.

1018
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: Really the goal, yeah, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

1019
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: And I want to say on this point about you

1020
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: don't have to go to usaid Andrew. I loved that point.

1021
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: I am feeling the pinch of this. I've been having

1022
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: conversation with conversations with people like even my professional development program,

1023
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: where they were like, I haven't felt the immediate harm

1024
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: from this yet. And it just hit our family this week.

1025
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: So my mom after we taped this show. Today, we're

1026
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: taking my mom to get her port installed for chemo.

1027
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: She starts chemo on Monday. And the place where we're

1028
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: entrusting my mom's care with Fred Hutchinson just announced that

1029
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: they are ending all their diversity, equity and inclusion programs.

1030
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: When my mom went in there, you guys, to get

1031
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: the contrast, died put in last week to do a

1032
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: CT scan to see how everything was looking in her liver.

1033
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: There was another nurse talking to a patient saying that

1034
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: they were starting to have to cut back on things

1035
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: because some of their federal funding for cancer research is

1036
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: being impacted, and that's how they ended up making this

1037
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: decision around what they would do with diversity, equity and inclusion. Now,

1038
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 1: everything in me, you all know, is screaming to raise

1039
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: hell about what this might mean for the very few

1040
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: black oncologists that work it for at Hutch, What this

1041
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: might mean for the nursing staff, for the folks who

1042
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: do acupuncture and rehabilitation. What this might mean for our

1043
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: opportunities for the black women who are overwhelmingly and disproportionately

1044
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: harmed by triple negative breast cancer. What does that mean

1045
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: for our care plans? But I gotta be careful about

1046
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: how I move because I can't have my mom be

1047
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: in the sacrificial land for this shit. So we are

1048
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: put in these conundrums with intention. They outstrategized us in

1049
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: this way because they're willing to cause us harm and

1050
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: ways that we would never do to them, of course,

1051
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: never do to them. And I waitn't And I'm not

1052
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: trying to see nobody suffer. I don't want to see

1053
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: nobody's loved ones suffer. It ain't right. I just want

1054
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: to CULTI is the point, right?

1055
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: I just want to say, really, quickly. Must love to

1056
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 3: Mama Rai. We are sending you all the love as

1057
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: you go through chemo. I love the picture of Angela

1058
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: Posa to you, Mama Raah on Time's Day with your

1059
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: arm around both your parents like this. She looks so

1060
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 3: joyful and happy. So I think of Mama. Angela knows

1061
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: I think her mom often. I know the days her appointments.

1062
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: I try not to bug you too much on those

1063
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 3: days to check in because I know that's frustrating too,

1064
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: you know, and people checking it.

1065
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: What's the news, what's the latest? Because everybody cares you,

1066
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: just like I will tell y'all spot for mothers you

1067
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: Tiff really does, and I think that is a gift

1068
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: from God, so thank God for you both. I will

1069
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: tell you the thing that's the most helpful right now.

1070
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting on my mom's own nerves. Ask

1071
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: her how she feeling how, you know? But I think

1072
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: even when people say how is your mom doing? It

1073
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: does feel like pressure. It does feel like because yes,

1074
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: because I can't number one, she is doing great. But also,

1075
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: you know how you get in these weird places where

1076
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: you're like, if I keep saying she's doing good, does

1077
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: that end? Up sending her to a different place, like

1078
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe in jinxing. I believe in the power

1079
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: of the tongue and all that, but there is something

1080
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: in me, if I'm honest, that feels like if I

1081
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: keep saying that, is it going to send it to

1082
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: the wrong place or in the wrong direction or you know.

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Speaker 1: I guess my only ask of you all, because there's

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Speaker 1: so many of you. All have sent love, have shared

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Speaker 1: your mother's own stories, and I do appreciate that. If

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Speaker 1: you can just say I'm praying for Mamurai, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking of Mamurai. I promise you as opinionated as I am.

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Speaker 1: If I got something to say, I will, But right

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Speaker 1: now I just want to center what she needs for me.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to have to meet your need to

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Speaker 1: be informed about her. I just want you to pray

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Speaker 1: for her, and if I proactively reach out to share,

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Speaker 1: I will. But it does feel like pressure to answer everybody,

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Speaker 1: and I want to be mindful of that. But I

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Speaker 1: think I've learned in this moment it's better not to

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Speaker 1: ask somebody how the person is doing. It's better to

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Speaker 1: just say I'm thinking of her, I love her, hug

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Speaker 1: her for me any love that I can give her,

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Speaker 1: I'll take that. But the reportbacks my daddy.

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Speaker 4: Beyond your point is still so important, Angela, which is

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Speaker 4: that the ripples of all of this you may not

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Speaker 4: have sheltered.

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Speaker 3: And I think, honestly, what you said is so helpful

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Speaker 3: to so many other people who are going there. You

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Speaker 3: don't know what to say, you don't know how to

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Speaker 3: deal and Angela, you did a beautiful job when she

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Speaker 3: put in our group chat, because all of us were

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Speaker 3: asking in the chat but also side chatting, and the

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Speaker 3: way that you say it was with such grace, and

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Speaker 3: you were like, girls, I promise you'll you'll give an update,

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Speaker 3: and then you'll say, girls, I promise you'all will be

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Speaker 3: the first to know when I have more to share.

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Speaker 3: And the subtext of that is, I thank you for

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Speaker 3: covering me with your love and interest, but I will

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Speaker 3: contact you.

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Speaker 1: I will call you.

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Speaker 3: You know so, I so for all the people who

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Speaker 3: are in situations like that, we're like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to say, I don't know how to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: That is great advice. I'm praying for you. I'm praying

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Speaker 3: for your mother and your family. And you leave it

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Speaker 3: at that and leave it up to the person to

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Speaker 3: share what they want.

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Speaker 4: If you got.

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Speaker 1: A random health tip, y'all, me and Mamurai we love

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Speaker 1: all the natural this tiens drop you to, this is,

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Speaker 1: this is good for chemo, nausea, this is whatever, like,

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Speaker 1: we love those things, and she's in the comments.

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Speaker 3: Please would I would even appreciate that. So please, if

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Speaker 3: you have health tips, especially if you've gone through chemo

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Speaker 3: or you know someone who did something that helped you

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Speaker 3: with nausea, eating anything, hair loss, whatever it is, drop

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Speaker 3: it in the comments, because I think Angela and Mamurai

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Speaker 3: would appreciate that. Sorry, Andrew, I didn't mean to I

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Speaker 3: an the time, and we have another.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing to be sorry about it at all. I

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. Your larger point, including your personal update, which

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Speaker 4: I think invited you into it, which is that for

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Speaker 4: those of us, many of us out there who are

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Speaker 4: saying this don't impact me yet, but five grand will

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Speaker 4: just wait, keep living me, keep living me. That's the point.

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Speaker 4: Keep living.

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Speaker 1: And I would love for us to revisit this five

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars point too, because my whole point and I

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Speaker 1: forgot because we had a question about it. To Tip's point,

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Speaker 1: we have more questions, but we had a question about

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Speaker 1: is there a place where we can work together with

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Speaker 1: the MAGA folks. And I think that what I was

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Speaker 1: bringing this up to say is I see this as

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Speaker 1: an opening because our people are suffering so much for

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Speaker 1: them and this is a place where I don't want

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Speaker 1: to lean in, but I see a place where they

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Speaker 1: could encroach on more of our folks who are in

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Speaker 1: harm's way, who are feeling vulnerable, who have been ignored,

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Speaker 1: who have been abused by the system. No matter who's

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Speaker 1: in charge, right, that's something that we've all heard, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: we heard it knocking doors. For you, you know that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's in charge, this always happens. Or

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Speaker 1: I'm just ignored it, or I don't matter, or my

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Speaker 1: vote doesn't matter for those people that are the most

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Speaker 1: vulnerable among us. I'm worried about the encroaching there.

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Speaker 4: It's hard at what they will take from them, from

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Speaker 4: all of them. I'm worried about what they take. Right,

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Speaker 4: you always have to watch my mother. There's always one

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Speaker 4: hand giving, but what is the other hand doing. It's

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Speaker 4: in your pocket, it's in your medical it's in your data,

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Speaker 4: it's in every it's so.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's always one hand given.

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Speaker 4: It was always one taken the best.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we are oracles.

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Speaker 4: We got the life has shown it to us. And

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Speaker 4: this is the beauty of these sayings being passed on

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Speaker 4: from generation and generation, is that we know that ain't

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Speaker 4: nothing new, ain't nothing under the sun new. They are

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Speaker 4: repackaging the same old tactics that they had before. There

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Speaker 4: was a gimmick when they were taking us out of Africa.

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Speaker 4: There were gimmicks with tribes. Turn on your other tribe,

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Speaker 4: We'll take them, leave y'all alone until we need more

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Speaker 4: of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, and even then we said it wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna be that bad. Well, it's not gonna be that

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Speaker 1: because we had slavery. There were institutions of slavery on

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Speaker 1: the continent. They did not look like the Transatlantic slave trade.

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Speaker 1: So everybody was probably thinking, I wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: But there were servitude. It wasn't flavory with servitude, but

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Speaker 3: not slavery.

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Speaker 1: That's right, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well, guys, in full transparency, we have so much to

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Speaker 3: say on so many topics. So we are in a

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Speaker 3: bit of a rush to get out of the show

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Speaker 3: because we have a very exciting interview that's going to

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Speaker 3: drop on Monday, so be sure to check that out.

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Speaker 3: It will be with Congresswoman Ayanna Presley Friday. Friday is

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Speaker 3: Andrew's Monday Andrew. Andrew has something that's right. So before

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Speaker 3: I kick it to you, Andrew, I just want to

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Speaker 3: say I know I said at the beginning of the

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Speaker 3: show that there was a great question that came in

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Speaker 3: on local elections.

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Speaker 1: We didn't forget about you. We're going to answer your

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Speaker 1: question next week.

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Speaker 3: So be sure to catch Native lampod next Thursday, where

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Speaker 3: I will answer your question on local elections and we'll

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Speaker 3: get to all your other questions.

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Speaker 1: And Andrew, so you're doing a podcast.

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Speaker 4: There was another question. There's another question that came in

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Speaker 4: about what the resistance looks like. What does the apparatus

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Speaker 4: the opposition party look like?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: What do we look like challenges administration? And I want

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Speaker 4: to dig into that with y'all. So I want to

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Speaker 4: invite you on Monday, three pm Eastern Standard time, I'll

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Speaker 4: be doing a solo pod for just a few minutes

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Speaker 4: to try to illuminate what the what the what the

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Speaker 4: squad looks like out there around the world that that

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Speaker 4: is certainly here in the United States that we can

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Speaker 4: plug into as part of the resistance, uh to this administration,

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Speaker 4: and UH what the squad looks like for promoting the

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Speaker 4: things that we deserve. We desire meeting our needs and

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Speaker 4: not the needs of the of the top one percent

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Speaker 4: in Elon Musk and them, So join us Monday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna roll that question.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Native Landpod. My name is Sean Nqua. I'm a

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Speaker 6: social worker in South Carolina. I have some a question

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Speaker 6: and some just concerns, I guess. So since President Trump

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Speaker 6: has come into office, I feel like things are moving

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Speaker 6: so fast. The world is just kind of crumbling and

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Speaker 6: he's wrecking havoc on like all of these systems and

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Speaker 6: institutions and people. But at the same time, I work

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Speaker 6: full time at a hospital. On weekends, I teach college courses.

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Speaker 6: I have three school age kids, a husband. My life

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Speaker 6: is already so busy and full. I feel like I

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Speaker 6: cannot focus on what's happening or figure out how to

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Speaker 6: actually do anything about what's happening. But I'm thinking, like

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Speaker 6: there are some activists, there are some people who this

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Speaker 6: is what they do, and I would like y'all to

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Speaker 6: highlight some so we can know how to support them

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Speaker 6: financially because I do recognize it's a sacrifice that they

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Speaker 6: are making to actually put themselves on the line.

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Speaker 1: For our community.

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Speaker 6: So who are these people? Can you point us in

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Speaker 6: the right direction so we can, you know, donate support

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Speaker 6: so they can still live their lives and feed their

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Speaker 6: kids and whatever they need to do, but they can

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Speaker 6: also focus on their job to benefit our community.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and you all will get all of Andrew's

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Speaker 1: answers on that question. I know many of us thinking

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01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: about that on Monday at twelve pm Pacific three pm Eastern,

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: where Andrew starts his first solo pod journey. So y'all

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Speaker 1: make sure you tune in live on Native Lampod's YouTube page.

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Speaker 1: And with that, and with that, I have to do

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Speaker 1: one more shameless plug today, I am wearing something that

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Speaker 1: is very black. It is a black hood It is

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Speaker 1: a black hooded cape from The GAP's Harlem Fashion Role collection.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to all the entities that are maintaining their diversity,

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Speaker 1: equity and inclusion programs. And it is Black History Month,

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Speaker 1: so I'm feeling very black and also wearing black all

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Speaker 1: year because these guys told me were doing that. And

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Speaker 1: then left me hanging, so we did not know. So

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Speaker 1: we thank you all so much for tuning in. You

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Speaker 1: know this is our home, but it is also yours.

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Speaker 1: We want to make sure we hear from you. Please

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: keep sending in your questions. I know we didn't answer

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Speaker 1: enough today. We gonna do better. We're gonna do better.

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Speaker 1: There are six hundred and twenty one days until the midterms.

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Speaker 1: If we have midterms, if we keep fighting, we just might.

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Speaker 1: We love y'all, got bless you and your families. I'm

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Speaker 1: handel a Ry. That's Andrew Gillam. This is Tiffany Cross Lover,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Cross Home Lovers.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for joining the Natives intention of with the

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Speaker 8: info and all of the latest rock Gillam and Cross

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Speaker 8: connected to the statements that you leave on our socials.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, sincerely for the patients. Reason for your choice

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Speaker 8: is clear.

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Speaker 4: So grateful it took the execute roads.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for serve, defend and protect the truth even

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Speaker 8: in paste. We're gonna walking home to all of the

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Speaker 8: Natives wait.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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