1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll come back in our number two Clay Travis buck 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Sexton show. We have been talking about the awful Hanika 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Bondai Beach terror attack. Fifteen Jewish people slaughtered. Reports that 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: the two shooters told some of the fleeing individuals that 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: to just kind of get out of the way because 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure they could target Jews. Just fyi, 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: this is what globalized. The Intifada actually means, you stupid 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: moron college kids. This is a direct result of the 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: arguments you have made at trying to equivocate in some 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: way the response of Israel to the attacks of October seventh, 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: with the depredations that were delivered on that day October 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: seven to twenty twenty three, the fallout continue and we 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: had seen a massive increase in anti Semitic acts and 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: attacks in Sydney and in and in Melbourne. I believe Buck, 15 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: that there are more Holocaust survivors outside of outside obviously 16 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: of Israel and the United States, in Israel, in Australia, 17 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: that is, there is a huge population of Jewish people 18 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: in Australia. And this targeted act of violence by a 19 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: fifty year old father and his twenty four year old son. 20 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: That was the two shooters. The father is eventually shot 21 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: and killed, son is in custody and they were able 22 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: legally to I believe between the two of them, Buck 23 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: possess six different guns. So everybody out there who has said, hey, Australia, 24 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: you have solved all of its mass shooting problems. They've 25 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: banned guns, Buck gave us data in the first hour 26 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: that there's actually more guns in Australia since they banned 27 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: the guns back in nineteen ninety six. And again, I 28 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: think the cowardice of the Australian police is going to 29 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: become a bigger and bigger part of this story as 30 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: we go forward. Major public venue in daylight. The equivalent 31 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: basically of someone opening fire at a place like, as 32 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: you said, Buck, South Beach down in the Miami area 33 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: or out in out in California. For those of you 34 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: in LA or have spent time in LA. This is 35 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: like somebody opening fire at Santa Monica Beach and this 36 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: guy was able to shoot for these guys were able 37 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: to shoot for ten plus minutes. So a lot of 38 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: you weighing in on that. Okay, let's also update two 39 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: other stories, and unfortunately they are also awful in Rhode Island. 40 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: The Brown Killer, that is, the person who walked into 41 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: a Brown University classroom and killed two people and wounded nine, 42 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: several of them severely, is completely on the loose. There 43 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: is a video out there of him appearing to leave campus. 44 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: They took the wrong person into custody, and it doesn't 45 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: seem buck that they have any real leads at all. 46 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: The shooter wore all dark clothing. They were in the 47 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: middle of doing an exam study session and just walked 48 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: in and opened fire. And so we do not know 49 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: where at all this guy is. And I say guy 50 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: because it appears to be a man walking in all 51 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: black clothing in the videos that I have seen. So 52 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: that is out there. The shooting in Providence, Rhode Island 53 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: at Brown University. This story also came out late last night. 54 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle were murdered, according to authorities, 55 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, by their son, Nick Reiner, stabbed to 56 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: death and Rob Reiner, whatever you think about his modern 57 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: po wrote throat slit was what I read. 58 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Which is a particularly brutal then vicious way to go. 59 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: So both of them found dead. Seventy eight year old 60 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner sixty eight year old Michelle will come maybe 61 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: back to his politics in a sec here, But Buck, 62 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: you actually interviewed off air, I think you said Rob 63 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Reiner at one point in time, and I'm going to 64 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: go through his film catalog, which in the late eighties 65 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: and the early nineties he hit on a string of 66 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: incredibly successful films, and this was before we all knew 67 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: his you know, left wing, frankly politics. But what did 68 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: you Rob Reiner to be like when you interviewed him 69 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: back in the day. 70 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: I think there's not going to be any surprise about 71 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 2: the fact that he had incredibly left wing politics. So 72 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: and thought that Trump was a hit Larryan figure. But 73 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: I also sit here and just say I don't really. 74 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: I think that the story here is much more so. 75 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: How is it that someone could have a family member 76 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: whose mental health is so out of control like this 77 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: over a period of time, that they would kill their 78 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: own parents like this? Yeah, because it was known that 79 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: he had met This wasn't like he snapped or something. 80 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: That it was known that he had mental health struggles 81 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: for a long time. If anything, you know, there's not 82 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: always a policy answer or policy solution. It's not always 83 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: something that you could make go away, or that could 84 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: have been solved or could have been different. So we'll 85 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: get more details about this clay, about the Rob Reiner 86 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: and wife double murder, which is what this is. But 87 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: it seems they've already taken the sun into custody. It 88 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: seems very likely that that is exactly what happened here. 89 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: That is the allegation certainly that is out there. And 90 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: I just think that if we're going to find something 91 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: that could be different other than looking to find ways 92 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: to push our society closer to God and the wholesomeness 93 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: of meaning that comes together from that sort of spiritual enlightenment, 94 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: but put that aside just for a moment. Maybe it's 95 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: just way too hard to commit people. I think that 96 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: this is something and I've seen this time and again 97 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: where there's some story and something completely terrible happens and 98 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: we have made it. And this stretches back for a 99 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: long time, so that even family members have a very 100 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: difficult time getting somebody committed to a psyche theatric facility 101 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: unless they want to be committed to a psychiatric facility. 102 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: Now you can imagine that people who are dangerously crazy, 103 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: they generally don't want to be committed to a psychiatric facility. 104 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: That's part of the war being dangerously crazy fin time. Unfortunately, 105 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: buck take their medicine right. One of the challenges of 106 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: crazy people is they start to get a little bit 107 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: better when they're on their meds, and then they start 108 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: to think, well, I don't actually need this anymore. By 109 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: the way, the movies on a positive side in the eighties, 110 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: this is spinal Tap, stand by me, The Princess Bride, 111 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: when Harry met Sally, Misery, a few good Men. All 112 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: of those in an eight year period was an incredible 113 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: string of successes for Rob Reiner as either director and 114 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: or producer. He was the director of all those movies, 115 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 2: also the producer of many of them as he started 116 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: to have success. So to all of those who continue 117 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: and to have the ability to string together. Now again 118 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: the Sun. We presume four million dollar bail out there. 119 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that there would be any bail at all 120 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: for something of this magnitude that you would do. 121 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: But just a heinous thing. Now, I don't know why 122 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: Trump felt compelled. I will let me take a step back. 123 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: I will say, by and large, this is the difference 124 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: between the right and the left. I've seen almost and 125 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. On this Buck team, you 126 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: can correct me if I'm wrong. I've seen zero public 127 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: celebration of Rob Reiner's death by anybody on the right. 128 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I just haven't seen it. Right, he was a committed 129 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: left wing anti Trump person. I have not seen a 130 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: single thing out there by and large that is associated 131 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: with tap dancing or anything remotely akin to what happened 132 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: when Charlie Kirk died. And and so I say that 133 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: in a positive way. Trump, as Trump often did, stepped 134 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: in it. I thought, with his with his post about 135 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: Rob Reiner, I mean you and I I think have 136 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: the general perspective on this that remains consistent. When somebody dies, 137 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: generally speaking, you should, especially in a violent manner like this, 138 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: you should just condemn the violence and uh and move on. 139 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: And also there's also look, there's something particularly horrible clay 140 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: about a father and a mother being killed by their 141 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: own son. This should be a tragic story if it 142 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: was a home invasion or something like that, you know, 143 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: home invasion gone wrong turned into a double homicide. They 144 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: had the throat slip by their own son, alleged. I 145 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: know it's alleged right now, but you know, Okay, the 146 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: guy's in custody. I'm sure that there's a lot of 147 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: evidence that's going to be coming out here shortly. He 148 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: had a long struggle with schizophrenia and mental health. Yeah, sorry, 149 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 2: schizophreny and addiction. I meant to say schizophrenay, obviously is 150 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: mental health issue. So there's sort of a ticking time 151 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: bomb scenario. Look, a huge supporter of President trump'son so 152 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: many things. Nobody's perfect. I don't This was not the 153 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: right response, So you know, it's a miss Sometimes there 154 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 2: are misses. But I think that you can we can 155 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: all give a little grace to someone to their memory 156 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: after they have been allegedly murdered by their own son 157 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: with a butcher knife in their home with their wife 158 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: as well. It's a pretty horrific really, about as horrific 159 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: a story as you're going to come across these days. 160 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: I'll also mention that Rob Reiner actually went on Piers 161 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: Morgan uncensored and was not one of the crazy left 162 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: wingers who celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk. This was 163 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: from late September September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. This 164 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: was with peers More and this is what Rob Reiner 165 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: had to say about Charlie Kirk's assassination. Cut four. You 166 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: first heard about the murder of Charlie Kirk, what was 167 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: your immediate gut reaction to it? 168 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: Well, horror, absolute horror, and I unfortunately saw the video 169 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: of it, and it's beyond belief what happened to him, 170 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: and that should never happened to anybody. 171 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: I don't care what your political beliefs are. That's not acceptable. 172 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: That's not a solution to solving problems. And I felt 173 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 4: like what his wife said at the service, that the 174 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: memorial they had was exactly right and totally I believe. 175 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: You know, I'm Jewish, but I believe in the teachings 176 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: of Jesus, and I believe in doing to others, and 177 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: I believe in forgiveness. And what she said to me 178 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: was was beautiful and absolutely you know when she she 179 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 4: forgave his his assassin, and I think that that is admirable. 180 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: Very well said, yeah, that's ay for somebody who comes 181 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: from the other side of the political aisle. Yeah, that's 182 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: what you should do, which is just have a humane 183 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: or a basic human response to something like what happened 184 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: to Charlie Kirk. And that was why when I did 185 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: my scrolling through Blue Sky that night, which again I 186 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: think was necessary, but it was also haunting because you see, 187 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: so many people have been willing to completely abandon that 188 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: basic humanity in favor of left wing ideology of a 189 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 2: range on a whole range of things, so that that 190 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: part is distressing. But yeah, look, Rob Reiner Clay, I 191 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: don't think we have much more. I actually had more 192 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: to I want to get back to the Brown shooting 193 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: because I think that brings up some issues on the 194 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,119 Speaker 2: policy side, other than being able to involuntarily commit somebody, 195 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: including somebody, most notably somebody in your own family because 196 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: you know them better than anybody, and you know this 197 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: is just a this is just a tragedy. I didn't 198 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: know what else to say about it other than it's 199 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: it's horrible and nobody should ever have to I mean, 200 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: think about what this does to the broader family as well. 201 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: A double murder and your own son did it. 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Merry Christmas and 228 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: happy Honika from all of us at the Clay and 229 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: Buck Show. 230 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. I know 231 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: it is the Christmas season and we're talking to some 232 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: heavy stuff today, So I'm just gonna take a moment, 233 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: Clay to to just bring us into the Christmas season, 234 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: to the Honka season, to the new year coming up here, 235 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: to my birthday, which is not technically a national holiday yet, 236 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: but perhaps perhaps in time as the Clay and Buck 237 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: Show continues to dominate, that will change. But I think 238 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: that well, one thing, it was really nice to have 239 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: you down here at South Florida. We have some good times. Well, 240 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: the Sex and Christmas Party I think was a big hit. 241 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: We had live with live music there jazz because nothing 242 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: is classier than random jazz, and we enjoyed it. And 243 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: I think the Michael Scott line is actually nothing is 244 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: classier than boring jazz, but I like to change that 245 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: up a little bit, so we had some fun with that. 246 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: And then we also had Dave. Dave Reuben had a 247 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: little holiday party. We checked that out. I went shooting 248 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: for the whole day on Saturday with my friend Schim 249 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Michael Singleton. But you know, down here in Florida, we 250 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: do Christmas. We get it going. We've got palm trees 251 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: with lights on them, you know how it is. So 252 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: how's it up in Tennessee? I just want to I 253 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: need to shake off a little bit. It's been a 254 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: rough day here on Clay and Buck based on Wen't 255 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: even we haven't even gotten into the awfulness about the 256 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: brown killer still being on Clay. Can we take a pause. 257 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: We're trying to have a We're trying to let everyone 258 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: have a breather. 259 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 5: It is. 260 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: It is a very h it is well super cold, 261 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: and I am I think there's a lot of people 262 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: out there that are ready for the holiday season to 263 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: be here. I was yesterday with in addition to your 264 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: awesome party that you and Carrie put on yesterday, Shannon Breem, 265 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: friend of the show, who is on Fox News and 266 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: there has been on this show a ton over the years. 267 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: She and her awesome husband Sheldon, had a Christmas party 268 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: in downtown Franklin, Tennessee, and we had an awesome time there. 269 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: So there you go a lot of good Christmas party 270 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: cheer that is out there for. 271 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: Evanth like Trump, but she's one of the very best people. 272 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: She really is. Media Shannon Breen the best lovely lady 273 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: inside and out. 274 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: She she is fantastic. Sheldon is also great, and so 275 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: we had an awesome time hanging out with them, and 276 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: I actually talked with her a little bit, because one 277 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: does about the fact that probably under the radar, the 278 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: amount of big time decisions that are going to come 279 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: down from the Supreme Court between now and June is 280 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I think not being talked about enough as it pertains 281 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: to presidential power, as it pertains to birthright citizenship, the tariffs, 282 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: which I think there is a decent chance the Supreme 283 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: Court may say Trump doesn't have the authority to have 284 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: implemented in the manner that he did, to say nothing 285 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: of all the other challenges that are out there. So 286 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: we will continue to be following those as we enter 287 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: into twenty twenty six and we come back. Unfortunately, more 288 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: bad news out there. We'll talk about the Brown killer 289 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: as still on the loose after a shooting at the university. 290 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I want to tell you the power 291 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: power of your purchase makes a big difference in the 292 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: success of a business individually. You may think it doesn't, 293 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: but every customer counts. 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So 302 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: from everyone in the Pure Talk family, including both Buck 303 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: and myself, thank you for your trust. God bless America. 304 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: And if you want to switch Pound two five zero, 305 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: great American company, that's Pound two five zero, say Clay 306 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: and Buck. All right, welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck 307 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Sexton show. 308 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: Listen. I mean it was kind of a that was 309 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: a disco Christmas music. What were we playing there, guys? 310 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: What it was? It was disco Christmas music. This is 311 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: perhaps where get off my lawn, Bluck rears his ugly head. 312 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: And now you're gonna join me anti Christmas. Good luck 313 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: on the on the responses you're gonna get. 314 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: I I don't care what anybody's I hate disco music 315 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: if they I think I hate disco music more than 316 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: any other kind, any other genre of music. I would 317 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: rather have like like weird, like you know what's like 318 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: the tribal uh like guttural singing they do, and like 319 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: Nordic countries like ah like, I'd rather that anything but 320 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: disco music. I would probably say R and B is 321 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: my least favorite music's ghost. R and B is awful. 322 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: There's like five R and B songs that are actually 323 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 2: popular I'm talking about, like you know, and they tend 324 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: to be more pop and they own thugs and harmony. 325 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: Nothing for you then, nothing. 326 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: But proto dogs and harmony is is the rap mixed 327 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: with the R and B. The R and B by 328 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: itself is often just atrocious, just atrocious. 329 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: Now when they move, not is not the that's not rap, 330 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: R and B. That's right, that's harmony. Oh both dungs 331 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: and harmony? Really okay? That shows what I know? 332 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I I think that would be clearly classified 333 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: as rap. If I go back in time to nineteen 334 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: ninety seven, rip, I think at least one of the 335 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: is it busy, But I don't. I'm always I always 336 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: hesitate to say who's actually dead? One of the Bone 337 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: Thugs and Harmony guys is dead. I don't want to 338 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: pronounce the wrong guy dead. 339 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: But you know, according to according to AI, they straddle 340 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: the line between hip hop and R and B as 341 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: part of that's. 342 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, it's only when you 343 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: move R and B close to another genre that it 344 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: becomes likable. So people out there are like, oh, I 345 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: like R and B. Most of you like R and 346 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: B when it's crossed with rap or crossed with pop 347 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: or crossed with you know, country or whatever you want 348 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: to say, whenever it's crossed with something else. Otherwise it's 349 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: just like Tony Braxton wailing along. 350 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder, R and B. You heathen, No, he would 351 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: be pop. The that you like again that are Stevie 352 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: Wonder would be pop. The true R and B. When 353 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: I say R and B, I mean like Tony Braxton. 354 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: I hope she's still I think she's dead too, isn't she. 355 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm just there's a lot of dead people out there. Apologies. 356 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: If Tony Braxton's still alive, it's like the Mariah Carey, 357 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: who I know is alive. It's like the Mariah Carey 358 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: songs that you like, all the veer towards pop and 359 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: the ones where she just is like screaming and singing. 360 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: That's awful. So anyway, I'm anti R and B. I mean, 361 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: according to Ai, I'm just going this year. By the way, 362 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: I have to point out wherever I can if Clay 363 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: gets anything wrong between now and when the election happens, 364 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: because increasingly it is looking likely that Kamala is going 365 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: to run. But awful stories out there, But Kama, we 366 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: need to give everybody a break. We need to give 367 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: everybody a break from this. This is too much. Ever, 368 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: we got the Christimers music going, and today is like 369 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: a big bummer of all the terrible things happening in 370 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: the world. But top R and B, according to AI, 371 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder amazing, Aretha Franklin, amazing, Whitney Houston, Marvin Gay 372 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: Clay the worst music of all, I said, of all genres, 373 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm throwing like international whatever and there I would. 374 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: Rather listen to disco because it's upbeat and not just 375 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: again the R and B that pops, the R and 376 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: B that people like I will die on this hill. 377 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: It actually is not very much R and B. It 378 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: actually but what is what is like classic? What is 379 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: what is true R and B? Then if all the 380 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: R and B artists are not really R and B, 381 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: what is a way be Beyonce? When let's use Beyonce 382 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: as an example. Beyonce will come out with an album 383 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: that has I don't know, fifteen songs. Nine of them 384 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: will be actual, you know, ballads where she's just standing there, 385 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, just singing, and then the ones that are 386 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: actually successful will be the ones where she dances and 387 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: there is a pop element associated with it. Right, Like, 388 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: you go back and look, if you actually listen to 389 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: most of beyonce songs, ninety percent of them are awful. 390 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: And then she has ten that. 391 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: Are huge crossover appeals because they have strong hip hop elements, 392 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: because they have strong pop elements. Traditional R and B 393 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: to me is just somebody like mis Houston standing there singing. 394 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: I think your definition is just like Jello here, like 395 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: I try to squeeze in one areas I'm sitting here 396 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm looking at like Marvin Gay is an R and 397 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: B artist. You don't like Mark Like straight up he's 398 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: an R and B artist. You don't like Marvin Gay songs. 399 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: I don't even know that many Marvin Gay songs. To 400 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: start with, is that Let's get it on? Is that 401 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: Marvin Gay? Is that his most famous song? 402 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: Problem? Yes, okay, yes, my argument okay, like this is 403 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: a good one. They're saying boys to Men, Okay, I'm 404 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: talking about people in my life. Boys to Men has 405 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 2: like three good songs. Ever, they are still wildly popular, 406 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: but it's like Motown Philly where they have a little 407 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 2: bit of more hip hop flavor. The actual ballads they're awful. 408 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: You see this, This is like it's like dealing with 409 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: a leftist when you talk to Clay about music. All 410 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden, no, no, in my lifetime, you're throwing 411 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: that in, Buddy, I dropped that Marvin Gay on the table, 412 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: and you knew you were in trouble. 413 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: This is where I'm one hundred percent right. Is I'm 414 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: also very anti musical, so I will own this. I've 415 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: never been to a musical and thought, you know what, 416 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: this is better because they. 417 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 2: Sang just act like your actors go act. I don't 418 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: need your break into song. Uh, but R and B 419 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: is if you just had to listen to the worst 420 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: most R and B like that is just somebody standing 421 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 2: there wailing into a mic for twenty consecutive songs, you 422 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: would it would be worse than disco. I think so 423 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: when Russell Crowe and the guy who plays Wolverine in 424 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: les Miz were like sing shouting at each other, you 425 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: weren't into that. That didn't do it for you. Do 426 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: you even know what I'm talking about? No? I mean 427 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: I know that they're like, I will only Jack go, 428 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: I will only go to a musical because I believe 429 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: that if I go to a musical. I think South 430 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: Park actually made a joke about this and one of 431 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: them that I presume my wife will sleep with me 432 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: after I go to a musical. That is the only 433 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: real that I'm sitting there just thinking, well, at least 434 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: he's gonna sleep with me after this is over. The 435 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: whole musical universe, they're all awful, and they would all 436 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: be better if they just talked. I'm just glad, you barbarian, 437 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: you cultural barbarian, that I don't have to explain to 438 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: you that the Rockets not really a musical, you know 439 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: what I mean? The ladies with the nice legs dancing around. 440 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: That's that's a that's its own thing. 441 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: I will admit that I can be distracted by ladies 442 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: with nice legs dancing around such that I don't notice 443 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: the awful singing. But every time they start to sing 444 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: a song. 445 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 2: I went. I took my kids. I went to go 446 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: see uh Hair. 447 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not an anti Broadway guy. I went to 448 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: go see the Harry Potter and the Cursed Child. I 449 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: took my kids, really really good. I went to go 450 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: because I'm super cultured. I went to go see Denzel 451 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: Washington and Jake gillinall in Uh was that Macbeth a fella? 452 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: Okay? Well a Shakespeare play, you know, Shakespeare, Clay, that 453 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 2: guy Shakespeare got some good stuff. Shit. 454 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: I went to go see George Clooney in the in 455 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: the whatever thing he was doing where he's playing the 456 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: CBS Edward R. Murrow no singing, Yeah, good luck, pretty sure, 457 00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: pretty good to save on that one. 458 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I A long time ago, I had a date 459 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: who demanded that I take her. I shouldn't say demanded, 460 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: but she kind of demanded that we go to Frozen 461 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 2: on Broadway. That was brutal. That was brutal. Didn't last, 462 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you. Didn't last. She really 463 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: wanted to go to Frozen. They made a movie about 464 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, they made a play about Frozen. 465 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: It was on Broadway. Yeah, really, I didn't even know that. 466 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I missed that one. Well, that's kind of weird. 467 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: You make the Buckster sit through some nonsense like that 468 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: you are not long for. 469 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: The date Broadway version of Frozen and it's already off. 470 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Didn't Frozen make like eight billion dollars? How did the 471 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: play not work? 472 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: Like? They still have Aladdin the play. I've seen all 473 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: of these because I was with my kids the Lion King. 474 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: They did all the different play versions on Broadway. But 475 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: oh man, that's a weird chick that wanted you as 476 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: part of a date to take her to go see Frozen. 477 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 2: I got taken on a date to Headwig and the 478 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: Angry Inch, and I never forgot nor forgave that debacle either. 479 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know what that play is about, 480 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 2: but if you do, you'll know what I'm talking about. 481 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 2: Not good Not good guy cuts off his own you 482 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: know what Clay True Story, that's the play. And there's 483 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: some rock music. Yeah, must be popular with democrats. Kind 484 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 2: of their anthem Democrat men, a lot of Democrat men, 485 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of a metaphor there. All right, do 486 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: we have to get back now? Like no, no, I think 487 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: we got to open up the calls. I think you 488 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: gotta hate the reset and talk about like serious things. 489 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: And at the top of the sayes at the top 490 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: of the next hour, people are gonna be angrier at 491 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: me about my R and B and musicals. Take the 492 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: top five wrong play, Take Top five Clay belly flop 493 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: right here on R and B. There's such worst genres 494 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: of music than R and I. I mean, I don't 495 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: love R and B, but there are some great R 496 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: and B out there, Like Aretha Franklin is in credib Okay. 497 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: Let s I it's not real R and B. They're 498 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: pushing it into pop. Everything you like that's actually R 499 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: and B is just pop that they have disguised as 500 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 2: the R and B. Go pull an album up and 501 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: just listen to somebody wailing. That is real R and B, 502 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 2: and it's awful. I mean, I feel like Attila the 503 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: Hunt is explaining the Sistine Chapel to me right now, 504 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: like this is just not this is just not working 505 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: for me. I was just its Assistine Chapel. I appreciate 506 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: great art. Yeah, the Sistine Chapel is very nice, very nice. 507 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: See ever since Clay got doused with holiness, you know, 508 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: now he's just an expert on all these things. You know, 509 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: he's ever since his high five with the Pope and 510 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 2: get to hang with the Pope. You just see the world. 511 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: But the Pope agrees with me on bad r and 512 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: b This Christmas, my friends, how about a gift that 513 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna love. You're gonna love not just anything out there, 514 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: but something special. Delicious steaks and burgers raised here in 515 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: America by American good Ranchers. My friend, this is a 516 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: company shipping delicious proteins for home delivery on a subscription basis. 517 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: Carry and I are subscribers. We get our box every month. 518 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Good Rangers makes gifting easy. Just choose any gift box 519 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: at a note and schedule delivery. 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Find them on the free 528 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 529 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to play and Buck Uh, let's 530 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: go right into this, the big controversy of the day, 531 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 2: Play's take on music. We knew this was going to happen. 532 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: My I thought I'd upset some disco lovers out there, 533 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: but no, Clay decided, I'm just he said, hold my beer, 534 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: or maybe hold my rose. I'm going to do something 535 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 2: even more inflammatory by throwing all of R and B 536 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: under the bus. This is Diana from Houston. Isn't Diana Ross? 537 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: By the way, gonna say? Is this Diana Ross who's 538 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 2: called amazing? If if Aretha the Queen Franklin herself were 539 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: to send us a talkback right now, maybe maybe a 540 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: little singing CCE, Diana from Houston, hit it fuck, please 541 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: take the shovel away from Clay. 542 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: He's digging a deeper hole. 543 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: The more he talks, the deeper it gets you UNDERSTI 544 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: go ahead, I was gonna say, I think most people 545 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: agree with me. I think, uh, I think most people 546 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: out there are, like, you know what, Clay's right. Because 547 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: R and B is awful standing alone, they have to 548 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: cross it with actual good genres in order to make 549 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: it popular. I just want to tell you, shovel ready, 550 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: Clay is the best clay. The clay that has that 551 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: shovel and keeps digging is like the most entertaining because once, 552 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 2: once you goat him into it on, don't you give 553 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: him the off ramp from his craziness, no interest, He's 554 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: going He's going to dig a hole the China. Which 555 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: now that you're right, you don't bail. And I'm right 556 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: on this. The traditional R and B is a wasted 557 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: genre that has to cross pollin eate with actual genres 558 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: that people want to listen. Here we go someone in 559 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: North Dakota. Big surprise, Brian wants to take Clay's side 560 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: in the R and B debate. Go ahead, put him on. 561 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, no problem with that. You know the original 562 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 7: R and B. When you get back to the Temptations 563 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 7: and Aretha Franklin and the folks you're talking about there, 564 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 7: but absolutely correct. But what we moved into is just 565 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 7: nothing but pop and money and a screen fest. Whitney 566 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 7: Houston started it all. And quite honestly, if I want 567 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 7: to get yelled at, I'm moved back in with one 568 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 7: of my ex wives. 569 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: Wait a second, Wait a second, you're throwing Whitney Houston 570 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: is amazing, amazing voice buck. But her voice is so 571 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: good that she got lazy, and they just said, hey, 572 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna read the phone book for eight of your 573 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: eight of your These are the worst music cakes I've 574 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 2: ever heard. I've just we're gonna cross pollinate it with 575 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: pop and will actually have like three songs that people 576 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: like that Whitney Houston does and they don't even realize 577 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: how awful most of Whitney Houston's music is. Clay next thing, 578 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna throw Mannheimstein, roll on under the bus. 579 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: It's just crazy. I will say the Beyonce uh like 580 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: like love Affair is well, hold on, I might be 581 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: contradicting myself for a second. Here is Adele That would 582 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: be a shock. As you're running in circles here on 583 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: that that's not R and B. This is R and B. 584 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: I will I will pull one exception out. I think 585 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: Adele is one hundred percent R and B. Would it 586 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: be fair to say, although she crosses over with pop two, 587 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: who is the most prominent current R and B artist Beyonce? 588 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I don't listen to really anything 589 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: new anymore. I listened to like a little bit of 590 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: you know, indie rock and that. That's about. That's about it. 591 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: By the way, we're getting thrown under the bus here. 592 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back into the whole third hour. We're 593 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: gonna get into the depressing news and analysis therein and 594 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 2: the fight for Western civilization. So because we're getting some 595 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: calls about that too, Okay, we'll get back to it. 596 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: It's almost Christmas. We only talk about so much massacres, 597 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: mayhem and terrorism and all these horrible things without you know, 598 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: we got to take a breather too, all right, Billy 599 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: from New York wants to throw us under the bus. 600 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: This is talkback, bb Man. I had to get off 601 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: of my ladder just to just to tell you, guys, 602 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: I can't believe at either of you two none of 603 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: you seen The Warriors. Man, you guys what, I can't 604 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 2: believe it. This is true. First of all, Billy from 605 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: New York is definitely from New York. I love it. 606 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: I had to get off my ladder, Billy, we love you. 607 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: This was I think age related because this is one 608 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: where it came out in nineteen seventy nine. 609 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: I think if you looked it up, Clay, you were 610 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: just graduating college, you clearly should have seen this. I 611 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: was born in seventy nine. Buck was born in what 612 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: eighty two eighty one, and so this is like. 613 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: One of those little windows where the movie came out, 614 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: like when we were so young that we never went 615 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: back to see it. I've never seen that movie, and 616 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: I know people were fired up about that. 617 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: I think that was Friday. We had a talk back 618 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 2: and we had to confess to that. We have a 619 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: gen Z podcast listener. Ryan from Iowa wants to weigh 620 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: on the gen Z phenomenon in politics these days. AA 621 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: hit it. 622 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 6: Ay, Clay and Buckets. 623 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 2: Ryan from Iowa. 624 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 6: I'm a gen Z. I just wanted to point out 625 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 6: that in nineteen eighty apparently it was eight hundred and 626 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 6: fifty dollars an ounce to get gold versus nowadays four thousand, 627 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty dollars. And in the eighties it 628 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 6: would be two hundred and seventy four hours at minimum 629 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 6: wage versus nowadays at five ninety seven hours. And that's 630 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 6: why so many in my generation are falling to the 631 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 6: trap of socialism. The economy is just not what it was. 632 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: Well, the inflation, the inflation problem is very real and 633 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: for wage earners and people trying to build assets play like, 634 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: for example, by their first home, inflation is a big challenge. 635 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: I also think the homes have expanded monstrously since nineteen eighty. 636 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 2: So what we consider to be a starter home. 637 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: Let me just point out in twenty twenty five starter 638 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: homes would have in many cases been considered the largest 639 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: homes anywhere in a neighborhood back in the seventies or 640 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: sixties or fifties. If you see some of the size 641 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: of those homes historically. So I think it's also an 642 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: expectation of how much bigger a home needs to be. 643 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: We come back awful stories, We'll go back into them. 644 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: This is Clay and Buck