1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: We really did this thing. If you build it, apparently 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: they will come. Well, we're all coming right here right now. 3 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: It's the BC Live Chat in augural on Morning Combat Tuesday, 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: December sixth, twenty twenty two. You're looking at A Smitt 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: and Brian Campbell right here, you know, the American alpha 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: that BC with that bde whatever we're calling myself these days. 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: Thank you for welcoming into your living room on this 8 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: MK off day nearly every day. Hey, maybe one day 9 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: it will be every day a BC live chat. But 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: we're here, we made it, We've come this far. I 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: thank you, so buckle up for you know, what could 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: be an inspirational, exciting, entertaining, educational sixty or ninety minutes 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: or so, or whenever your questions or my interest level 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: runs out. But this is a long time coming. We 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: all know. Luke Thomas is a very profitable and long 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: running chat. And congratulations to him on that. I give 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: him credit for green lighting his partner and saying, yeah, 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: let's bring this, let's bring this to MK. I mean, 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't for 20 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: MK view or Ethan Ross. Yeah, I see your brother 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: jumping into Luke's live chat asking the question, Well, here 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: we are. So thanks everybody, including CBS producer Mikey Mormle, 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: for getting this thing going. We have a stockpile of 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: questions that were collected on the community tab of the 25 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Morning Combat YouTube page over the last twenty four hours. 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: You can continue though, to flood your questions in live 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: in the moment, in that live chat as it happened. 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: So if you can aeshew from the typical flow of 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: misogynistic and racist talk in that and actually talk about 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: this here chad our producer Michael Mormel can get your 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: voice heard and we can get it on here. But 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: as the preface of this type of event sets it up, 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: this is all about you, the listener. Yes, it's a 34 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: very misturbatory if you like that word, you know, vehicle 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,119 Speaker 1: by me to have you guys pick my brain and 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: sit in front of this camera and waste your time. 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: But I do like this opportunity to give you the 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: MK view or a chance to you know, ask an 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: oddball question, talk nineties, NBA seventies rock. I mean, we're boxing, 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: mixed martial arts, or life or the growth of men, 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do within the grounds of reason 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: and morals. We're gonna do that for you. How often 43 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: will the BC Live chapion, Well, that's going to be 44 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: dependent upon a few things. Will you guys click on it? 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: Will you want it? Will you like it? How often 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: can I make it work? Is it weekly? Well, let's 47 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: start every hair in there? But hair is it here? Hair? Hair? 48 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Hair here or there? But you know, we'll see where 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: this goes. But I'm buckled in. I'm ready for round one. 50 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: We've done a little bit of stuff like this in 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: the past when Luke's been on his two weeks South 52 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: American vacations, and shout out to Luke Thomas, my MK 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: co host cohort. If you're just entering the prism of 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: BC at the moment, don't forget every Monday, Wednesday and 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Friday live eleven am Eastern. It's the award winning it's 56 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: the best damn combat sports show period with myself in 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: lt my live chat. Though it's a little bit more 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: price effective, cost effective, if you will, it's a little 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: bit cheaper though it's free. Okay, three ninety nine, so 60 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's get into it. I thank everybody 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: for being here, for subscribing, for following, liking all that stuff, 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: for buying our fantastic merch here at Morningcombat Dot Store. 63 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll do you wrong unless you live 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: in a remote place in which our flat rate international 65 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: shipping will put you over the limit. But that's up 66 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: to you. I'm not telling you where to live. The 67 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: BC Live chet could be many things. What's it going 68 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: to be? That is up to you. But let's not 69 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: waste any more time. I'm not gonna call you a loiter, laird. 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sell you alone. It's about BC and 71 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: you letting your voice be heard right here. So let 72 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: it happen on twelve six, twenty two that we begin 73 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: this journey. If any of you are recovering at it 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: from the ESPN saved by the boxing chat that your 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: boy BC once manned for many a year back in 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: the day, well welcome back. Here we go. This is 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: the video audio version of a great vehicle. We're gonna 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: bang tooey, all right, so let's do it quick start though, 79 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Thanks to everybody checking out our Morning Combat content this 80 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: specific week, including our USC two eighty two pregame preview 81 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: with Chuck Mindenhall, High Comedy, Real talk hard hitting analysis 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: like you want it, and also a little mayakopa to 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: some regard Off the top from Monday's MK Reaction show, 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: Luke and I were very harsh on Kevin Hollins's strategic 85 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: use ring IQ all that stuff as it pertained to 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: his main event Fight of the Year contender lost to 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: Stephen Thompson at UFC Orlando last weekend. I did get 88 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people after the fact going BC, I 89 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: appreciate you going hard in the paint, but don't forget 90 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: he did have a broken hand and that not only 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: could have likely affected his potential use of grappling there 92 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: and under that pretense certainly echo that I'm not exactly 93 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: sure where that injury took place, but yeah, that that 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: certainly could play a big part in Holland, who's tough 95 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: as nails. We all know that looking to survive on 96 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: his feet any way he can obviously, you know, hurt 97 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: in the moment a few times by Thompson, but you know, 98 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: was willing to bring his shield out there and just 99 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: go after it until his body couldn't anymore. If that's 100 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: the case, I certainly give Kevin Holland a pass in 101 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: that regard. Although look, I said it in the build 102 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: up to that fight last week, I wanted to see 103 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: him come in here and mix up the striking with 104 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the wrestling, almost do the opposite of what this fight 105 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: was intended to be. What two gentlemen agreeing not to 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: take each other down. Well, if Holland wants to advance 107 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: in those rankings and be a legitimate contender more than 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: just a fun action fighter, which again I've also some 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: people say, you see, it's not the end of the 110 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: world if somebody decides, look, I want to make money, 111 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: be famous and have fun in there. No, it's not. 112 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: It's not. If that's the direction Kevin Holland wants to 113 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: go and will end up going, we can all certainly 114 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: benefit from that is at the best use of his 115 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: time and skills, though in his long term life and 116 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: the care and all that, it's another question for another day. 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: So it's one he's gonna have to face as him 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: and his team look to regroup now two straight defeats. 119 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: But now we transition after that apology or catch up 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: there into the live chat. Let's start right off the 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: top here from Dylan Hey BC, what's your top five 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: dunkers in the UFC all time. Well, to be fair, 123 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: BC has not seen these UFC fighters dunk. But yet 124 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: it's become a bit of a weird quirk in some 125 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: ways in my MMA fandom, where you know, there's certain 126 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: elements of manhood. Like when I was in high school, 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: we used to call dudes that were you know, they 128 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: may have been fifteen sixty, but they were men. They 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: were diesel men, guys that wear you know, it was 130 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: the nineties, so they'd wear you know, the lumberjackpaid shirts 131 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: to school, flaunt, you know, big muscles of badass attitude 132 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: and an ability to drink a lot of beer after hours. 133 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: And I think sometimes we still look or you know, 134 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: we sort of look back on those manly efforts, well 135 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: can you kick my ass? Well? Can you drink more 136 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: beer than I spilled? Can you dunk a basketball? It's 137 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: become a quirky little question to think up or even 138 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: ask the fighter six for four Anthony Smith can't tunk 139 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: a basketball. That shocks me. That shocks me, But who 140 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: could or who would? I mean, look, I'd love to 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: see John Jones get out there at ten feet and 142 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: see what he can do. What is he six with 143 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: three with extremely long limbs doesn't have big calfs. Maybe 144 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: that's the reason why I've never been able to do 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: anything more than touch rim with my fingertips at six 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: one and a half. But I would like to see 147 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: what's that. I bet you there's a lot of guys 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: in that five to eleven to six one zone that 149 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: would shock us at their you know, explosiveness in that 150 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: regard an ability to win mill dunk on top of people. 151 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: I know Jamal Hill the light heavyweight is a good 152 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: basketball player, as shown by the evidence of that sort 153 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: of a charity pickup game or wherever that was in 154 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Vegas with the SCHMO and DC. But you know, could 155 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: I create some type of quirky UFC All Star Saturday 156 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: where we do tonk contests in our wrestling contests and 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: Dana White slaptic maybe Pat and Pending. We'll see. But 158 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: who do I want to see if they can dunk 159 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: the most? I don't see John Jones cup I won't see, 160 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: and Gando with all that muscle at six five. I mean, 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: people forget this interesting vehicle the nineties used to throw 162 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: it at us, which was that celebrity foot locker Slam 163 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: dunk Fest where they'd take athletes of all different sports 164 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: and put them in a slam dunk contest on a 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon on ABC's Wide World of Sports, and it'd 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: be like Ken Griffy going up for two Deon Sanders 167 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: banking it off the window and with one hand. And 168 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: it was like Mark Henry, the Olympic weightlifter turned WWE star, 169 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: and I think he missed all of his attempts in that, 170 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: but it was clear, despite being over three hundred pounds 171 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: and being a you know, just a Jack Savage, that 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: guy's a real athlete that could get up there and 173 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: come close. So yeah, that's just BC being weird about 174 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: dunking right there. But let's keep it going. Hey, BC, 175 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: this is Bryn E. Glad to see you finally doing 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: a live chat. You're damn right, Brynn. Thank you, Thank 177 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: you to the people. Thank to you the people for 178 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: calling it out. They wanted it, so they got it. 179 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: My question is who is your favorite boxer and or 180 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: MMA fighter in what particular part of their game personality 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: game more personality makes you like them the most great question. 182 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you mean all timer right now, 183 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: but let's tailor this more toward right now, as much 184 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: as you know journalists who are impartial in theory, we 185 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: try to not let fandom get in the way. And 186 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: I think that's certainly, you know, part of the job 187 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: and important, you know, from the foundation, meaning you're not 188 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: going to be shown up to fights and press row cheering, 189 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: although I have seen that bullshit far more times in 190 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: boxing than them. It may to be fair, but you know, 191 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: but to act like we're not fans, to act like 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: there aren't characteristics in fighters that attached to us because 193 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: we either see part of ourselves in them or something 194 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: that we are lacking, you know that the courage and 195 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: the fear and then you know, lack of fear that 196 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: these guys overcome in women to get in there that 197 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: we identify. You know. Sometimes it's nationalistic or just you 198 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: know whatever, but I tend to I'm certainly a fan, 199 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: just as anybody else, and like it's like, you know, 200 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be outwardly rooting on Twitter from my 201 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: guy or gal to win. But I think it's also 202 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: dumb to act in this modern day of journalism meets entertainment, 203 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: which is essentially the direction that the podcast movement in 204 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: this very show right here, has gone to act like 205 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: though that we're not fans because of course we're massive fans, 206 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: or we wouldn't do this as a day job. I mean, look, 207 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: I get that there are jobs people end up doing 208 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: that they don't love because they either have to or 209 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: have no other choice. Right Like if your dad owns 210 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: a business and you take it over reluctantly because you've 211 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: got nothing else going on you don't want to let 212 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: the family down. Or if you're seven feet tall but 213 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: you hate basketball, but hey, you made it all the 214 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: way the NBA just on being big alone. That's great. 215 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: That's great. But you know, the best is when you 216 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: can be in a job that you're passionate about that 217 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: you'd be doing anyway for free. And that's certainly this job, 218 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: which I've done in various forms for free anyway and 219 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: been a super fan. So you know, I don't hide 220 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm a massive Rosnambi Units fan. In terms of who's 221 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: my favorite MMA fighter and what are the characteristics that 222 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: make that up for me as a fan, It's her 223 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: ability to wear her heart on her sleeve as honestly 224 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: as I've really ever seen a combat sports athlete do. 225 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: That's why I could not recommend the Thug Rose documentary 226 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: and UFC Fight Pass more from just the standpoint of 227 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: showing a truly elite fighter, like the thing about Rosa 228 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: that's so cool and what made that moment so great? 229 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: Of I am the best, I'm the best is when 230 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: she is at her best, when fear is not getting 231 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: in the way, when you know, mental health challenges or 232 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: anything else life is not getting in the way. It's 233 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: remarkable how much she's in the conversation for the greatest 234 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: female fighters of all time and maybe the best you know, 235 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: one point fifteen or the great division of women's strawway 236 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: that we've ever seen. Yet she's so open, honest and 237 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: real about the legitimate challenges she goes through that all 238 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: of us would be you know, naive or lying if 239 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: we didn't mirror in our own career walks, family, relationship walks, 240 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: life walks at that Sometimes we wake up and you know, 241 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: we're not choosing violence, We're choosing survival, or you know, 242 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: we've got something in front of us that is our 243 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: very dream. Yet why are we so crippled with fear 244 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: to try to take it on. I think Rose more 245 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: than any athlete really I've ever seen in combats, which 246 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: just embraces that so openly that you know, there's almost 247 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: this pattern of her winning, you know, a couple fights 248 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: and a really big one and then sort of losing 249 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: one on you know, in sort of a pattern realistic way, 250 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: if that's even a word, that is sort of shocking. 251 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's a I wouldn't say 252 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: it's a lack of focus. I think she just deals 253 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: with the elements, and certainly in such a real way. 254 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: But Ye's so honest about it to openly say afterwards, 255 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: if for getting droped down her head by Androge, you know, 256 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: if I want to do this anymore and rightfully so, 257 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: you know, And then and it just happens though that 258 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: she's got sublime ability coming in as a as a 259 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: submission master. You know. UFC maybe hoping upon her making 260 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: the finals of the twenty fourteen Tough Season to introduce 261 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: the one fifteen way class that she'd be this Ronda 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: Rousey two point Oh well that didn't have but to 263 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: watch her come back from the ups and downs to 264 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: shave her head heading into the PVZ fight and almost 265 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: alter her image and enter a new level of focus 266 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and then round out those skills in such insane way 267 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: by the great Trevor Whitman's teaching. That's my favorite MMA fighter, 268 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: there's no question. But I love me. Some of you 269 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: want it too, because she's a killer underneath that. And 270 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the men's side of 271 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: mixed martial arts, I've been a big Kevin Lee guy 272 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: because I see that untapped fury and potential and want 273 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: him to get there. Man, I love Mike Perry. It's 274 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: train Wreck TV. He's told me he'd kill me before 275 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: on the phone and hung up and we made up 276 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: over the next podcast. But there's just something. There's such 277 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: a perfect combination in Mike Perry of like good enough 278 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: skills to sort of be where he's at, insanity in 279 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: terms of a fighting sense, just a toughness level, tattoos 280 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: around his eyeball, it's just just craziness, you know, real 281 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: life trouble and disharmony at times outside the cage. But 282 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: also if you follow him in Instagram, it's like a 283 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: guy who's trying to figure you're right out in life, 284 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: and he's got a lady and a beautiful son, and 285 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: there's something so real and raw and compelling about his 286 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: personal journey, So what are my types as fighters? Sometimes 287 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: it's it's people that are so embracing the tough journey 288 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: that they're on, willing to walk it out in public 289 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: because they're a public figure and they don't know any 290 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: other way. And I think a lot of times we 291 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: tend to internalize our biggest challenges, you know, way too much. 292 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: That put us at a disadvantage in finding answers and 293 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: healing and ways out. So even if Mike Perry is 294 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: considered wild and uncontrollable, he is, he might be two 295 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: percent African American too. It doesn't justify some of the 296 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: words he said you to be fair, but he lives 297 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: his life as real and raw and upfront, and I think, 298 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: in my own way, I strive to do the exact 299 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: same thing boxing wise. You know, it's weird. It's like 300 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: I always say about boxing, which is more of my real, 301 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: purest favorite combat sports, the first one I got into. 302 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: It's like I always say, you can't pick who you love. 303 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: That's how I always defend Oscar de la Hoya being 304 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: my favorite fighter, and he was my favorite fighter through 305 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: even though he's now retired, but still a major part 306 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: of the sport. He was my favorite fighter almost through reluctance, 307 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: almost like, man, who's this pretty boy? He's nothing, He's 308 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, like everybody said about him when he was 309 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: coming up in the nineties off the Olympic gold medal 310 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: and you know, taking big fights and getting the benefit 311 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: of the doubt like he did against Parnell Whittaker or 312 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: i Corte and you know, really good fights. But there's 313 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: something through that process I saw, yes, a highly marketable 314 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: pretty boy, but one with a real backbone. And yes, 315 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Oscar ultimately was his own biggest worst enemy in terms 316 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: of you know, he lost the majority of the big 317 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: fights he made in the second half of his career, 318 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: largely due to the damage he was putting on his 319 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: body outside the ring. It seems, you know, there was 320 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of issues that he was dealing with them 321 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: is still dealing with with, you know, mental health leading 322 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to substance abuse and all that. And I always wish 323 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: Oscar well, even though he's also his own worst enemy, 324 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: and many times has made you want to if you're 325 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: an Oscar fan, been like, oh man, you know, fish 326 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: nuts really you know, the few times along the game. 327 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: But his ability despite what everybody thought he was to 328 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: then stand in there and show us, particularly in the 329 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: first half of his career, through the trend of that fight, 330 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: which he lost, and it was his fault, even though 331 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: he got screwed, his fault for running in the second 332 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: you know, in the late stretch, you know, it's like, Okay, 333 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: we think we know this guy. No, we don't know 334 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: this guy. He's a real he's a warrior underneath, and 335 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: if he did anything right in the second half his career, 336 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: and maybe this is the reason why I hold firm 337 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: to saying yeah, it's my favorite boxer of all time, 338 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: is because he always tried to make the biggest event possible, 339 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: no matter of the way, class of the opponent's You'd 340 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: have to dig deep to try to find people he 341 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't fight, maybe Vernon Forest, but it really never worked out. 342 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: You know, during those times he was already moving up 343 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: to fifty four and sixty and always trying to make 344 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: the biggest fights. Today in boxing, I really identify a 345 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: lot with a few fighters Alexander Usik, because I mean, 346 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: look at what he's doing. Olympic gold medalists, first undisputed 347 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: four belt cruiseweight champion, now trying to become the first 348 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: four belt everyweight champion after being Joshuachway and getting three 349 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: or four belts. Yet it's it's the true definition of 350 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: skills paying the bills with that guy, where there are 351 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: things that are naturally against him. He's the smallest you 352 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: can be in the super heavyweight era to still have 353 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: a chance to compete out six foot three and you know, 354 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: strong but wiry doesn't have knockout power. Has shown in 355 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: his heavyweight fights and even some of his biggest light 356 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: cruiserweight fights. Excuse me, like that gem of a majority 357 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: draw fight of the Year contender he had against Myris 358 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: Britus in the semi finals of the World Boxing Super Series, 359 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: all the way through his first real heavyweight tests against 360 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: Derek Chasa. He'll take big Punnis took big punishment in 361 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: the first Joshua fight, yet his ability to not show 362 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: that as a tell hang in there rely on his 363 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: skills and mental capacity. Alexander Usik, who's not only hilarious 364 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: despite the English barrier, he just is so mentally tough 365 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: it's absurd. That's the guy I watch and go, oh, okay, 366 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: there's something you know, there's something different there that I 367 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: respect that I love without question. Roman Chuck Latito Gonzales 368 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: is probably my other boxing hero of this era. The 369 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: Nicar Waguin didn't really come into like full appreciation of 370 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: how great he was on the American level until he 371 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: was in like the twilight second half of his career. 372 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: That guy, ability wise, pound for poundness, right, is as 373 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: good as anybody that's that's walked in and out of 374 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: this sport during his time. And that's a monster statement 375 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: to say when we're in the you know, the end 376 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: of the Pacquieo Mayweather era, Roy Jones still lingering then, 377 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: and you know, leading into the leading stars we have today. 378 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's better historically than any of those guys, 379 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: but in terms of complete pound for pound, well rounded skill, 380 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: he's a contemporary of them. And I've always really idolized 381 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: Chuck Latito's Professionalism's a gentleman, he's a spiritual man, and 382 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, I've interviewed a bunch of times with a translator, 383 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: and you really can't get that guy off script to 384 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: talk bad about anybody, to try to make any boasts 385 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: or claims. He's as humble and sticking. That's why I 386 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: was even surprised to play during Mondays. Have you seen 387 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: the shit that video where they asked him about the 388 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: fourth estratophyte, which I'd be here for, and he's like, well, 389 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: you know they put enough money down, you know. I 390 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's a non chucklate. You don't answer there. 391 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: I was pretty badass. But in general, you're looking at 392 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: one like a soft spoken man, you know, somebody that 393 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: you know as the outside, looking at an athlete, I'm like, 394 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: I wish I could be a little bit less wild 395 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: and crazy and ridiculous and a little bit more humble 396 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: and exactly who that guy is right there. But a 397 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: great question, Brinn, I appreciate that. Maybe that's what this 398 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: BC Live chat is all friggin' about. Let's go to 399 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteenth dream, which is I would have 400 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: to assume a Bob's great Bob Dylan reference because the 401 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: question is what is your favorite Bob Dylan song? And why? 402 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Great question because I got into Dylan, I slipped into him, 403 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: took me a while. I think I think I'm bought 404 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: his Greatest Hits Volume two double CD and like ninety 405 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: eight listen to it once and was like, man, this 406 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: ain't this ain't like a rolling stone that I hear 407 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: on the radio or hurricane these you know, accessible great 408 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: Bob hits. What the hell's up with these songs? I 409 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: think that CD said on on my shelf for years 410 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: two thousand and one area. I just randomly put it 411 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: on and had hit And I had one of the 412 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: most aggressive all in on one musical artist's stretches after 413 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: that that I could ever remember. In my music fandom. 414 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of yacht there that's like, 415 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: OHBC sucks, his music tastes suck. Nah, they don't. They 416 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: really don't, They really don't. You know, I'm a clectic 417 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: I go across the board. You know, there are things 418 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: that I don't like. It took me a while to 419 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Just just a female artist in a lot 420 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: of ways, like a Joni Mitchell or somebody like that 421 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: took me. You know. I really don't like commercial country. 422 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean it sucks the horn. There are a lot 423 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: of genres within this that I don't touch. I do 424 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: touch a lot because I try to be a well rounded, 425 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: open fan to you know, the old working statement that 426 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: good tunes is good tunes man. You know what I'm saying, 427 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I've done some time in different genres 428 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: that I didn't stay in to just find that out. 429 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: But when I went in on Dylan, it wasn't like 430 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: I'd made a decision to commit the next two full 431 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: years to his catalog. But that's like almost exactly what happened. 432 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: I think I bought the most. This is the most 433 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: aggressive I've ever been. I went to Tower Records in Stamford, 434 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: which was like a forty five minute drive from where 435 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: I lived, but at that point before it closed, it 436 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: was like the last mecca in Connecticut of like the 437 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: great old school, ridiculous record shop. And I think I 438 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: bought nine albums that day from Dylan, and I just 439 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: listened to them all on a loop for like the 440 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: next four weeks. I like Dylan's entire catalog. It it's interesting. 441 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: The only thing I kind of stayed away from was 442 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: that late seventies early eighties stretch where he went very 443 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: non commercially. Actually that was just born again run there. 444 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: I just recently acquired those on vinyl. Yeah, BC has 445 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: some atrocious music taste, as Cole Hughes. I'm my low twenty, 446 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: so I just don't understand the era. Well, BC's really 447 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: going all in on the seventies lately and really through 448 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: Vinyl trying to get into various genres that through classic 449 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: rock radio. I just dismissed, thinking they sucked, you know, 450 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: like progressive rock or or you know, jazz fusion all 451 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: this other stuff. But when I got into Dylan, it 452 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: was just full bore. And what I realized is we 453 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: all come to music for different things. Some people just 454 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: for the jamming and the live sound or you know, 455 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: or the way it makes them feel. I think I 456 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: came to music as a you know, for the poetry, 457 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: for you know, I'm a writer. I read about sports, 458 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: but I'm a writer at base right Dylan's poetry, I 459 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: mean it was even better than the Beatles. I mean, 460 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't think outside of Joni and when I called 461 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: Jony the goat above Bob in the last two years, 462 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: some people want to strangle me, but I actually think 463 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: it's true despite her ways. But Chad Muska mma sliding 464 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I listen to Accountable Courses for two minutes. 465 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: I just don't undertand I don'tunderstand either. That's a genre 466 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: I just don't understand. Although Luke's Boy at the live 467 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: show did give me a bunch of like progressive metal CDs. 468 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm starting to welcome in on my drives and chip 469 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: away and I think there's a place for me in 470 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: the law metal area. And there were times in the 471 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: past I've got into you know, Metallica or metal or 472 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: metal head with Mega Death excuse me metal head. I 473 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: really just call them metal head, which could be gateway 474 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: ish at times if you think about it in a 475 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: larger metal area. But Luke is extreme and to me 476 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: cannibal corps at this point, that's like one of the 477 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: main Some people just have major turn offs. Bob Dan's 478 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: a great example. Some people will say, look, he's a 479 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: genius songwriter, but I could never get into that voice, 480 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: and that voice changes over his time. But yeah, the 481 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: voice is a barrier of entry, There's no question about it. 482 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: To me, screaming you know death metal is a barrier 483 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: to entry because of the vocals, not the music. Will 484 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: I get around there, I don't know. But to answer 485 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: your long winded Bob question, I pretty much love almost 486 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: all Bob eras, but my favorite comes off of his 487 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: second record and his you know, first major one that 488 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: hit and that's the free wheel in Bob Dylan, and 489 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: it's the great song Don't Think Twice It's all Right, 490 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: which is written from the perspective of somebody who's you know, 491 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: breaking up with a girl and sort of like, look, chick, 492 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: it's not your fault. It just happened. But just so 493 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: you know, for the record, it's not me, it is you. 494 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: So maybe it is your fault, but you know, at 495 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day, don't think twice It's all right. 496 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: It's in line with some of those Bob like in 497 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: a me babe type of lyrics. And as much as 498 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: I can definitely be historically more a sucker for breakup 499 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: songs that you know, paint me identifying myself in the 500 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: lyrics as the victim, and I think sometimes we all 501 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: can be. We all can get hooked on that meaning 502 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: it's sort of like, Okay, this is my depression, but 503 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: it's mine though, and I'm gonna enjoy it, and I'm 504 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna play this song at nauseam to make me feel 505 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: better about where I'm at in love. I've been through 506 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: those songs, but I raally like these kind that's sort 507 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: of from the aggressive position of the breakup Neil Young 508 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: has a lot of these songs as well. But don't 509 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: Think twice It's all Right is so just. I mean, 510 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: the poetry is beautiful. The picking pattern that Bob plays 511 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: on acoustic is just incredible. I mean, when you watch 512 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: people at a bar, try to mimic that and the 513 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: rare sort of you know bar singers, folks singers. I 514 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: can do that rate cover. I mean, there was a 515 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: time where I went to the same local bar, you know, 516 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: four nights a week in my early twenties, like a 517 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: lot of people do. It, went to the Old Corner 518 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: Cafe and O he took Connecticut and the great Mark James, 519 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: the Irish guy, would be playing, and you know, we 520 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: had a thing. We had this telepathic pathic thing through 521 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: through through many sloppy Friday and Saturday nights of request 522 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: where as soon as I would walk in and he 523 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: would look over his shoulder and see me, whatever song 524 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: he was playing at the time, like think Southern Cross 525 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: by by Crossbistils and Nash was like a sleeper early 526 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: eighties hit tune. He would weave that into Don't Think 527 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Twice It's all Right by Dylan just upon seeing me 528 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: walk in. It's the little things in life that matter, right. 529 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty sad story in general, right, 530 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: dimly let bar me walking in. But that guy, that 531 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: guy gave me reason to hope right there, So don't 532 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: think twice. It's all right. Is Bob's favorite is his 533 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: best song and in my opinion, and it's also a 534 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: very well sung And that's the thing about Bob that 535 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: can be tough. And I you know, I always wondering 536 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: sometimes if he just sang a certain way just to 537 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: turn people away. But when his voice is clean, particularly 538 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: like it is on Blonde on Blonde, which is, you know, 539 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: my favorite Dylan record and one of the best rock 540 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: records of all time, like it is on Desire, you know, 541 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: you can't make those same accusations again. Stillan Michael, Do 542 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: we have any other follow up questions related to this? 543 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: I saw a note there in the chat. If we don't, 544 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: I'll keep it rolling here. Look again, I'm just don't 545 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 1: disclaimer he on the BC Live chat. If you're jumping 546 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: in and out, this may not be for you, but 547 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: that's fine. You know, we'll see where this vehicle goes. 548 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: You want to talk music, you want to talk pro wrestling. 549 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: It's on you. You asked me the questions BC brings. 550 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: So let's keep this going. This is Henry Davis. He says, Hey, 551 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: Duchess of Donkton, if you could go to the past 552 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: back to the future style and interfere with one moment 553 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: in time, what's the one thing you would change in 554 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: the history of MMA. See, I thought Henry Davis was 555 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: going to ask this in terms of life, which is 556 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: always a great question. I'm sure a lot of us 557 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: in watching movies like Back to the Future are always like, 558 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, what is that one thing that you could 559 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: change if you can go back and do it. Thinking 560 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: about that in the sense of MMA is interesting. There's 561 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: not a knee jerk reaction because I think if you're 562 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: gonna say you want to save somebody from something that 563 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: either destroyed their career or turned the promotion in the 564 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: wrong direction, you know, it's like it was a lead XC. Ever, 565 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: the same after Kimbo ran into that Seth Petrozzelli jab 566 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: with the pink hair and then Seth accused the Shaws 567 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: of trying to pay him not to take the fight 568 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: to the ground. No, I don't think they ever did 569 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: another show after that. They weren't the same with Strike Force, 570 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: the same after the Nashville brawl. No, no, they weren't either. 571 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: What I use my get out of Life's Expectancy for 572 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: free card to change the ways on those I don't 573 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: I don't think so, you know. I mean, I'd love 574 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: to go to that intersection in Albuquerque until John don't run. 575 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: You know, they go see if the pregnant lady's all right, 576 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: Like step up early into your biggest mistakes and own 577 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: them and change them, because you know, I think that's 578 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: the that's the biggest reason why a lot of us 579 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: for so long give John Jones so many get out 580 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: of jail free cards. It's why when he does emerge 581 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: from his own constant you know, side stepping outside the cage, 582 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: the public is just so ready to largely embrace him, 583 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: and especially when he comes back and wins like he 584 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: did against Cormier in the rematch, although obviously it's a 585 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: no contest now, but you know, it still kind of stands. 586 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: We saw it is. We want him to be great. 587 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: We want every era, you know, we That's that's the 588 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: Floyd in boxing. You know, I was I was an 589 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: early and aggressive guy, and maybe sometimes I did take 590 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: it too far because Floyd, for his credit, Floyd Mayweather, 591 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: with all that talking criticism about his matchmaking, did come 592 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: around and end up fighting everybody. I mean it was 593 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: on his own time, but dude, he fought everybody, right, 594 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: But you know there were definitely times obviously the build 595 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: of the Packia fight. We we're like, dude, like, just 596 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: put the sport first. You're making them, you know, more 597 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: money than anyone could ever think of printing. Just put 598 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: the sport first and fight this. We want to. And 599 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: the reason is not because I hate flop me with 600 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: it because I want him as a journalist and fan 601 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: to lose. No, I want to exit this era saying 602 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: I covered you know, fight by fight, day by day, 603 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: and his pay per view prime one of the best 604 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: fighters of all time. I want to say that about 605 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Floyd because I see you under the hood and you 606 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: see that there is just profound greatness in there. But 607 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: we want to see that greatness have its chance to 608 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: get to full bloom. Are we too hard on athletes 609 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: when they take a chance at being great and then 610 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: they fail? Yeah, sometimes we are. It's kind of why 611 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: on Monday. Although this is not comparative to Mayweather or 612 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: anything but when RDR Renier de ritter in One took 613 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: that big chance and basically fought the interim heavyweight champion 614 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: and was like on his way to trying to become 615 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: the first three division elite MMA champion, I'm like, dude, 616 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: go for it. If you get sent to hell in 617 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: the most disastrous way, which you did Dutch Night, I'm 618 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: not a piss on your grave. You know, I'm gonna say, 619 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: holy holy crab, you done got KTFO brother, and you did, 620 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: but you know I want to reward that. It all 621 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: goes back to the long winded same thing about John Jones, 622 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: which is uh, I want to I want him to 623 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: be the two division goat without question, because I've seen 624 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: under the hood. I've seen him in dark times against Gusts, 625 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: him in the first fight literally partying and doing cocaine 626 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: and not trying that week. And you know, when when 627 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: tested like that's what really separates the greats. When tested, 628 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 1: when things aren't going your way, how do you? What 629 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: do you do to survive? What? What if? What Mayweather do? 630 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: When Shane Moseley rocked him twice and round what two 631 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: or three of their of their famous pay per view fight, 632 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: he recovered in some of the most smart, intelligent ways 633 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: you've ever seen, holding Mosley's arm, forcing clinches, getting his 634 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, wits back, and then absolutely dominating the rest 635 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: of that fight. If I could use this mythical thing, 636 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: I think at some point and maybe you could say, look, 637 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: Johnson never going to change. He's how many more times? 638 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: How many more chances do you need? You might be right, 639 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: And it's a sad story, but I wish at some point, 640 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, I could go back and there and step 641 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: in and like John put it back together, put it 642 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: back together the right way, because you have a certain 643 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: level of gifts and greatness I think the world needs. 644 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: And you know there's still time for him to fulfill 645 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: everything and say f u BC, I did it my 646 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: own way, and that's fine. Mikey Morms, my producer, got 647 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: a great one here on this topic. Glad you dropped 648 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: that in tell Anderson Silva not to mess around in 649 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the first Widman fight. I agree with that as well. 650 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: You know, I was never like an overly huge silver guy, 651 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: but you know, did I more love him than cheer against? 652 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Of course? I love that you kindly not love Anderson Silva. 653 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean it was like Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson 654 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: coming together and becoming the greatest MMA fighter of you know, 655 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: first stretch of our lifetime and maybe to some people 656 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: for all time. Yeah, it's sort of the reason why 657 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: I carry out this continual joke that is birthed in 658 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: some level of reality, which is I never saw Chris 659 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: Widman beat him. I saw Anderson Love Silva lose twice 660 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: to Chris Widman one and freak injury one in exactly 661 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: what Mikey's message kind of represents here and shout out 662 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: to you Fishburn. All right, brother, thank you for soliciting 663 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, I didn't want to see 664 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: Anderson Silva's run and the way it did, goofing off 665 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: way too much to try to lure Widman, who, to 666 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: his credit, never broke, never took a chance, never got 667 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: caught up in the flashiness, and just stayed the course 668 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: and got the knockout. Okaives credit Whyman has one of 669 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: those resumes where I was always a little bit dismissive 670 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: of him because I didn't see the true greatness even 671 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: despite the victories. I'm like, Okay, this guy's good and 672 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: he works hard, not great. It's weird in middleweight history. 673 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: I told you that experiment we tried to do during 674 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: the pandemic at CBS Sports rate the ten greatest middleweights 675 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: in UFC history, just as a you know, fun project, 676 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: division by division. It was hard to at that point 677 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: at Asnia hadn't like become the clear number two behind Anderson. 678 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: He was in the discussion, but he was in the 679 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: discussion with like Rock Cold and Widman and a bunch 680 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: of other guys. You know, Musasi even had a sneaky 681 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: resume at that point, and some of that is just 682 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: like Widman, you know, had better wins and dominant wins 683 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: against bigger names that then sometimes I give him credit 684 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: for Yes, he gets two wins here. Yes, it's Anderson 685 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: Silva's fault that the first fight ended that way second fight, 686 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: even though Silva was losing leading up to the injury. 687 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's somewhat freak, But yeah, I'd like to 688 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: see Anderson fight that version of why i'd been straight 689 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: up in that first fight before the leg injury and 690 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: see what would have happened. I don't know, maybe maybe 691 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: why I still wins, but that you know what, I 692 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: use my save they're not I want to save John 693 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Jones for some reason, I want to see this guy 694 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: fulfill it. It's not is it selfishly because I want 695 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: to say that I covered this guy. I don't know. 696 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's weird. It's like all of our divisions, 697 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: our decisions in life are rooted to some degree in selfishness. 698 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we have to look out for 699 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: for for you know, job one is looking out and 700 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: protecting ourselves, and it should be to a certain degree 701 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: short of selfishness. But you know there is selfishness. Selfishness 702 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: and me doing this chat right now, wasting your time 703 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: just by talking a lot. Let's keep these questions going. 704 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm loving I'm loving the flavor of them so far. 705 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: Let's see what else we got in here. Steve c 706 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: off the copy of year head BC. What's your all 707 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: NBA team of the nineties. Don't worry about positions, what 708 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: players first come to mind when you think of that era. 709 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: Jordan is too obvious, so let's leave him out. Steve 710 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: c I want to kind of go all over the 711 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: place here because I don't love the way you present it. 712 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: I'll still try to serve you the best I can. 713 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Jordan is too obvious. I don't know if we can 714 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: do any kind of you know, best of the nineties 715 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: All NBA team without Jordan, you know what I mean, 716 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: or all time right, we couldn't players that come to 717 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: mind as opposed to what's the all nineties team or 718 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: different conversations as well, you know, as my favorite players. 719 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: I also don't like doing it regardless of position. And 720 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: some of that is my internal struggle and fight against 721 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: where the NBA, which a lot of you guys didn't 722 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, know of BC or meet me in this 723 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: sort of weird sense of meeting me, you know, until 724 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: I was covering boxing at a high level ten years 725 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: ago ESPN, or for some of you, until I, you know, 726 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: was was on Morning Combat with lu Thomas, was the 727 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: first time that you're like, you know, who's this guy? Man? 728 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: I hate this guy? I mean inevitably love me again. 729 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: The only question, like I said in Doc seven, is 730 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: can I prevent the inevitable love from turning back into hate? 731 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm working on it, all right. You're inevitably though, going 732 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: to love me here. But when you first got got 733 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: into me, what am I even answering here? The nineties? 734 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: You know I could lose my train of thought. There 735 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: easily where the NBA has become today is largely a 736 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: position lists best five players, best talent. For the most part, 737 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, you get a center today which is largely 738 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: a glorified athletic power forward from about fifteen twenty years ago. 739 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: And that's you know, maybe outside of Joel Embiid, who's 740 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: maybe the best in him and Jokich are the best 741 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: pure centers of today. Although how pure in the sense 742 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: that I'm comparing them to the nineties are they? When 743 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: both can make threes? Joe kits You're back to back 744 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: MVP just has ridiculous assist totals. I mean, you know, 745 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: Embiid can put it on the floor and shoot deep. 746 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: But something happened around two thousand and three four five 747 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: that altered my personal fandom, and it was, you know, 748 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: the NBA looking at the lower the momentum that began 749 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: in the nineties. You can argue it started earlier with 750 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: the Pistons bad boy teams, but led into pat Riley 751 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: taking over the next and going, Look, my quickest path 752 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: to the top is just barn door basketball, just you know, 753 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: just gangster basketball. And I say that positively. You know, 754 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Mason Oakley ewing. You know, I said, Derek Harper, I said, positively. 755 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: But that led to a trend in which defense was 756 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: starting to overcome offense. Scoring was down, and then when 757 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: Jordan abruptly retires in ninety eight, you're looking for the 758 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: next superstar. Culturally at the time, though a largely white 759 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: audience was becoming very cautious at accepting a largely you know, edgy. 760 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: Think Ellen ivers Think of the crap Allen Iverson had 761 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: to deal with because he wore cornrows and had tattoos 762 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: and was connected to the hip hop culture. You know, 763 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: it's like they put in the dress code in the NBA, 764 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: like all these things to sort of well, let's not 765 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: cross over and get two urban that were ridiculous. But 766 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: what that all sort of led to, in my opinion, 767 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: was David started looking at the insane international growth of 768 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: the game in the nineties, looking at the way ball 769 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: was being played in Europe, which was important because let's 770 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: not forget that the rest of the world was catching 771 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: up with the US, particularly since the Dream Team joined 772 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics in ninety two. And then you get all 773 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: the way to two thousand, where things are closer than 774 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: they share the band. And then suddenly in two thousand 775 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: and two at the International Games in Indianapolis, you know, 776 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: Argentina has beaten the US and that of course led 777 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: to the four horrible US Olympic team that led to 778 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: the redeem team. But my point is during that era, 779 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: you know, that European game was starting to become more 780 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: of the game. And it's like, I don't hate the 781 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: European game. You know, at my primes of playing basketball 782 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: is probably more of a feathery euro than I was 783 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: in you know, a typical nineties banger. But your boy 784 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: BC loves team basketball, pick and roll, you know, help defense, 785 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: not zone. And I think when the David Sterning company 786 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: looked at the NBA and said, we got to increase scoring. 787 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: You know, you increased scoring, you make more superstars. And 788 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: we also have to protect the superstars from this style 789 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: of ball which was becoming drive the land and get 790 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: hammered and lead to low scoring. And you know, I 791 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: think they over corrected too far. They opened up the lane, 792 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: brought on the defensive three seconds, but basically allowed you 793 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: to play zone, got rid of the hand check rule, 794 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: which I cannot say enough. The success Steve nash had 795 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: and winning back to back MVPs, although I can argue 796 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: both years he may not have deserved it through Steph 797 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: Curry becoming a legitimate all time great player. And you know, 798 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: my love to always say Steph Curry would have been 799 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: Dana Barrows in the nineties. Obviously not true. That's disrespectful, 800 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: But you get the point of what I'm saying. The 801 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: game has changed in ie, my old ass is not 802 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: willing to change with it. I play my son every 803 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: other day out in the court, one on one. He's 804 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: the new generation. I'm trying to keep the old generation alive. 805 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: To keep that old generational alive. You'r BC basically spends 806 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: a lot of his free time, especially on the road, 807 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: rewatching great nineties playoff games, and you know, it's like 808 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: it's such a stark difference between then and the game today. 809 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: The game today is exactly what you're saying, regardless of position, 810 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: just put out. You know, maybe a guy like Don 811 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: Nelson was sort of ahead of the curve on that 812 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: doing that. In the early nineties, the run TMC teams, 813 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: they were putting out natural centers, they like Tyrone Hill 814 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: at center, and they're just running out athletic guys, and 815 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: you know that became the future of the game. Maybe 816 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: it's because I'm slow and can jump, or maybe I 817 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: just really love the team game. But nineties is where 818 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 1: the NBA and basketball in general peaked. I think it's, 819 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: as my friend MOUs likes to say, the perfect cross 820 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: section between where the athleticism that we know today. I mean, 821 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: the lesson today is ridiculous, the evolution of recovery and 822 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, taking care of yourself better and extending your career. 823 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: But or just the fact that at all time, like 824 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: eight of the ten players on the court can do 825 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: something physically ridiculous that you never saw, like drive the 826 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: lane and hay him, or a dunk or hit a 827 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: fade away three, even when they're not a three point shooter. 828 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: But that's the key. You got to be a three 829 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: point shooter to play today. I like the specialized days, 830 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: so I like to do it by position, going back 831 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: in the specialized days. So, okay, if I had a 832 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: name my all NBA nineties team, I think this is 833 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: the way I'd go. I mean, Magic was great in 834 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: ninety and ninety one before he walked away. And of 835 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: course the abbreviated come back in ninety six was fun. 836 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: But I think you gotta go Jordan without question at 837 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 1: shooting guard, and I think you gotta go John Stockton. 838 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: I think Gary Payton became Gary Payton more in the 839 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: later nineties and especially when his when the team around 840 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: him started falling apart. I loved the Gary Payton from 841 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: two thousand, the guy that made first team all and 842 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,479 Speaker 1: bather the people forget about averaging like twenty four points 843 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: a game. You know, he had lost some weapons, he 844 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: had lost camp and Shrimp and all those guys, and 845 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: he was kind of doing it a lot of ways 846 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: on his own with Rishard Lewis. So I'm going John Stockton, 847 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Stockton in the back court. Stockton, of course, through 848 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: longevity and success as the record for most steals and assists. 849 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: But you're looking at a guy who it's funny. Isaiah 850 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: Thomas throws some shots at John Stockton historically and says 851 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: he should have been better, meaning John Stockton was such 852 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,879 Speaker 1: a great shooter percentage wise, clutch wise that Isaiah looks 853 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: at him and says, you should have been better rather 854 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: than spending your entire career setting Upkarl alone. I mean, 855 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: you can argue that. But the reason why I think 856 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: that point illustrates is that John Stockton makes this list 857 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: as the best point guard of the nineties because of 858 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: that toughness, the ability and defense and steel in assistant 859 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 1: steels are going to be there numbers wise, but he'll 860 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: absolutely when the play breaks down or when the game's 861 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: on the line, as evidenced by the buzzer beaterer that 862 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: knocked the Rockets out of the playoffs in uh was 863 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: that ninety six? He can make that shot that was 864 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: actually ninety seven. He can make that shot. The forwards 865 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: I think are pretty easy. I've always been a big 866 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: Scottie Pippen guy, and people like to hate on him 867 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: because he's either looked at as the greatest sidekick of 868 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: all the time, which you might be, or you remember 869 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: too harshly the migraine in Game seven against the Pistons 870 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety fair, or you remember too harshly when 871 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: he took himself out of the game in Game three 872 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: against the Bulls in ninety four and then khu coach 873 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: Banks in the game winner. Yeah, that's that's one of 874 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: those stains that it's hard to remove. But how about 875 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: this one of the most effective lockdown defenders we've ever 876 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: seen a legitimate second tier score. But what happened in 877 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four when Jordan went away to baseball. Pippen 878 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: led the Bulls in points, three bounds, aist, eels, and 879 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: blocks and they won fifty four games. Could have won 880 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: the MVP that year. You'd argue he should have. Ninety 881 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,439 Speaker 1: four was a Lajon great year ninety five as well. 882 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: Probably how Keem should have won it ninety five over Robinson, 883 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: But we wouldn't have got that takedown that he did 884 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: of David in the conference finals if he hadn't. But 885 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: gim me Pippen at the three the four. Statistically he 886 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: could go call him alone. But he didn't have the 887 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: range of Charles Barkley, and he wasn't his clutch. I 888 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 1: just watched that playoff game last night, was a Game 889 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: six and ninety three at San Antonio when Barkley closes 890 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: out the Spurs. Barkley's ninety three season with Phoenix, when 891 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: he won the MVP and got to Game six of 892 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: the finals, he's one of the most insane great one 893 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: man season. He wasn't a one n team. He had 894 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson and Dan Marley as legitimate all stars around him, 895 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: but he took a level of responsibility as a star 896 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: that was lacking at times in Philadelphia when although members 897 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: were insane and he was an insane player got into trouble. 898 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't always the you know, the best teammate or or 899 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,800 Speaker 1: the owner's face favorite. But he put it all together 900 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: in ninety three, and a lot of that was because 901 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: of what he learned from MJ and Barcelona about professionalism 902 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: the year before that version of Barkley's the best is 903 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: the best power forward we've seen in the nineties, better 904 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: than a young Tim Duncan, better than an old Larry Bird, 905 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: so you know, or a three slash four because let's 906 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: not forget Barkley as six foot four. But I'm rolling 907 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: out Jordan stockton' alaje you on at center, over over 908 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: David Robinson or Ewing or even young Morning and Pippin 909 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: and Barkley. I don't know if you're beating that team. 910 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: I really don't. I think I got it covered right there. 911 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: Who are some of the spirit of this man's question? 912 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: Some of my favorite players of the nineties. When I 913 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: think ninety two, do I think I think are via Sabonis, 914 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: my Lithuanian brethren. We only got to see him in 915 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 1: the twilight of his career with the Trailblazers, after injuries 916 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: and wait and all that had really slowed him down. 917 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:51,399 Speaker 1: But what a skilled like forerunner of what a guy 918 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: like Jokic became as a do it all versatile europe 919 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: I know they used to say about Sa Bonus, especially like 920 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: the version of him that knocked the US out of 921 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: the gold medal in at the eighty eight Games. You know, 922 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: he was a seven foot three Larry Bird some degree 923 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,720 Speaker 1: he was. I mean, he's also playing against a tier 924 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: down level of European competition compared to the NBA at 925 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: that point. But I love the fat old version of him. 926 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: Could pass, could hit threes, was just a great teammate 927 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: and was the only center. Listen to this when Shack 928 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 1: became playoff Shack, as my friend Miles Notley to call him, 929 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: which is Shaquille O'Neil from the year two thousand to 930 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and four under Phil Jackson, when Shack decided 931 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: to put it all together. The only real great start 932 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: to finish season he had was two thousand when Shack 933 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: win the MVP I'll put him at center in that 934 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 1: season up against any center in any season in NBA history, 935 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: including the Wilt Chamberl of nineteen sixty two, who averaged 936 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: fifty points to twenty seven rebounds a game. That version 937 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: of motivated, defensive dominating Shack is ridiculous, But from Shack 938 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: from two thousand and two thousand and four was basically 939 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: a guy who would come in fat, take games off 940 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: due to injury, but purposely set him up for playoff time, 941 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: when he would turn into the kind of beast that 942 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: we've rarely seen in the pivot. Serious in this this. 943 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, before Jordan, it was thought that you couldn't 944 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: win an NBA championship without a dominant center. That is 945 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: well gone, right. You look at the game today, it's 946 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: well gone now. But even through that run where you 947 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: needed a dominantic, I'm not sure anybody was more individually 948 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: dominant than the performance Shequille performance is Shaquille and Neill 949 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: put off in the finals in two thousand and two 950 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 1: thousand and one and two thousand and two. Look at 951 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: the average for the for the finals across that points, 952 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: basically averaging like thirty seven points, you know, fifteen rebounds, 953 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: four assistant three blocks across those three years in the playoffs, 954 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: the only guy who slowed him was r Vetas Subonis 955 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: seven foot three. Not quick laterally anymore, but strong as 956 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: an ox, skilled smart. That's why what's my favorite playoff 957 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: series of all time? Even though I didn't have a 958 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: horse in the race, the two thousand Western Conference Finals 959 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: between the Lakers and Blazers is for my money, I 960 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: don't rewatch that in any day of the week. That 961 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: series was must see TV. You had Kobe Shack and 962 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 1: Glenn Rice in year one of Phil Jackson gaining the 963 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: Lakers dominance, and and then you had that Portland team 964 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: which was so ridiculously deep. People forget that the second line, 965 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: the second unit on those ninety nine two thousand Portland 966 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: trailers would have made the playoffs in the East. They 967 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: were that good. It was like Brian Grant, Greg Anthony, Dette, 968 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: Left Schremp, Stacy Augman. I mean they had, you know, 969 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: they had a second line that was just insane. David Stottomeyer, 970 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,919 Speaker 1: the outside, Rashid Wallace, Steve Smith, Scottie Pippen, and people 971 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: forget again how good Pippen was. The ninety nine Pippin, 972 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 1: the guy who went to the Rockets and that failed 973 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: super team with Barklay and Oje one that didn't really 974 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: work out because that team had no chemistry. Two thousand 975 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: they did. Maybe it was Rashid Wallace who was taking 976 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,759 Speaker 1: the last shot each game, but that was Scotti Pippen's team. 977 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: And that series against the Lakers. Did they get screwed 978 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 1: by the rest a little late? They got screwed in 979 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: game seven late a little Yeah, yeah they did. I 980 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 1: would have liked to see if they called that follow 981 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: when Steve Smith drove the lane with under a minute ago. 982 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: That's a bad call. I think our Vita spons I 983 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: think Dennis Rodman. I was an insanely big Rodmin fan, 984 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: as a lot of us were of my age when 985 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 1: he went crazy when he sat in the parking lot 986 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: his last year with the Pistons in ninety three, you know, 987 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: fell asleep in his car with a shotgun, considered ending it, 988 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: and just decided the next day to split take the 989 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: whole world and spin it upside down. Who he became 990 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: on the Spurs And then of course the eccentricities really 991 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: came to bloom on the Bulls right with the wedding 992 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: dress and all that, but even just the changing hair 993 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: color often gets in trouble. But damn is he the 994 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: exact piece that those ninety five Spurs needed under Bob 995 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: Hill to be a legitimate title contender, which they were. 996 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: I patterned everything after Rodman. In my rec league, I 997 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: was wearing ridiculous TEDI shirts, fake tattoos. I mean, like 998 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: that guy was so nineties it was ridiculous. What does 999 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 1: this tat smell like? Is that what that person just answered? 1000 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: It's fresh, it's new. It's probably about the fourth time 1001 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 1: I've worn it, so right now it probably smells like 1002 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: sweaty man. But in the future, all bets are off. 1003 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: But also I think of the nineties, I think some 1004 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: of my favorite players. People forget Anthony Mason on the 1005 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 1: Hornets ninety seven and ninety eight. That was the guy 1006 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: could have been the defensive Player of the ear in 1007 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: ninety seven. He was a virtual point forward, backing people 1008 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: down and then basically being the point guard from the 1009 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 1: from the post position feeding you know, Glenn Rice, who 1010 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: could have won the ninety MVP in ninety seven. Great hit. 1011 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: All right, I've lingered too long on this one. It's 1012 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: clear let's keep it going though the inside of my 1013 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: hat smells great. Let's go over to Dan. Thank you BC, 1014 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: as a longtime fan of LT who wanted to thank 1015 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: you for bringing balance to the force. You appreciate I 1016 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,760 Speaker 1: appreciate that, Dan, and I think that that's a great 1017 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 1: way to sort of say what the show is. Two 1018 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,759 Speaker 1: completely opposite forces, light and dark, good and evil going 1019 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: against one another and balancing the other. That's the one 1020 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 1: thing that sometimes Bestia gets wrong when Luke and these 1021 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: docks see the docks are a great prison or snapshot 1022 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 1: of real life. They're not often rooted in real Actually, 1023 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: I'll say more often than not, they are rooted in 1024 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 1: real life. Some of it's played up for you know, drama, 1025 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: but you know, Luke and Doc two is like BC, 1026 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: one day you're gonna wake up and realize that this 1027 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 1: show is good because of you, but because of us. 1028 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: You know it looks right, it is so so, Dan says, 1029 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: as a longtime fan of LT, I want to thank 1030 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: you for bringing the balance. As I said, my question is, 1031 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: how do you think MMA gives more powers to the 1032 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: fighters without becoming the fractured mess that boxing is currently in. Also, 1033 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,959 Speaker 1: what happened to the Silver Paul Fighters Union. Bet. Yeah, 1034 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,319 Speaker 1: good luck on Silver and Paul getting that union going. 1035 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately right now, good luck on anybody including Bijorn Revenue 1036 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: or GSP on getting that union going. Although I like 1037 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 1: we've set it before ahead of Silver Paul. Whether Jake 1038 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: Paul's intentions and I know that live chatters you don't 1039 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about Jake Paul here, But if Jake 1040 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: Paul's intentions, even if they aren't pure robin hood of 1041 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, stealing from the rich to give to the poor, 1042 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: it's a needed conversation and he's got a big platform 1043 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: to do it. Do I think that something will happen 1044 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: from that? No, I don't, unfortunately. But the power of 1045 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: this question is, is there like an in between in 1046 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: the MMA space, particularly with UFC, which is where the 1047 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: fighter pay issues are the most prevalent that can give 1048 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: the fighter more power pay what have you without turning 1049 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 1: into a shit show like boxing where there's all these 1050 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: cooks in the kitchen who work for themselves, aren't in 1051 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: a position to be motivated financially to help each other, 1052 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: and ultimately it takes so much longer to get the 1053 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: fights you deserve. I hope and I think there is 1054 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, when the damn 1055 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: finally breaks, when this era for the UFC of the 1056 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: dominant control that they have over the fighters in terms 1057 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,359 Speaker 1: of matchmaking. Although let's be fair, Luke said of himself 1058 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: when we ran into Shaun Shelby that time at the 1059 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: World MMA Awards last year, you know, he was very 1060 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: upfront and honest, and it's like, it's harder than ever 1061 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: to make fights because you know so many guys are 1062 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: turning them down for key strategic reasons. You know. It's 1063 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 1: one of those things that's like that becoming more prelevent 1064 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: is equally great and bad for the sport. It's great 1065 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: because it's needed that the fighters aren't just who cares 1066 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm injured, but the company called me. I got to 1067 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: be a company man. I don't think we need to 1068 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: see that. I think the TJ. Dillashaw incident is the 1069 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: worst case scenario of that. But you like them to 1070 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 1: have more freedom to not lose their spot by turning 1071 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,879 Speaker 1: down a fight or by delaying due to injury. You'd 1072 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: certainly like them to get paid more. Is there a 1073 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: middle ground? I think inevitably there will be. It will 1074 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: take something for the dam to break. This mainstream headline 1075 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,880 Speaker 1: thing that's become a big deal. When John came out 1076 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: and said I want wild their money, John Jones, you 1077 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: know what's a big deal in that moment When and 1078 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 1: Gono came out ahead of his contract, it was a 1079 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: big deal for a while. It's got to involve a 1080 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: major fighter still in his prime that I don't know, 1081 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: make some type of power move. It's hard to make 1082 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: a power move unless you've got a lot of people 1083 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: joining with you, because if one person tries to stand out, 1084 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: all the UFC can tell you the years by we'll 1085 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: offer you our minimum amount of fights each year, you'll 1086 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: probably turn them down. So by I mean they can 1087 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: control you. But whatever that big moment is that breaks 1088 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,680 Speaker 1: the dam where we go, Okay, from here on out, 1089 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 1: we're going in the good direction. And I think you 1090 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: can argue we already kind of started that, remember after 1091 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: the last big public round of fighter pay headlines, and 1092 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,000 Speaker 1: suddenly out of Sonya tweets out that he's got the 1093 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: biggest deal in UFC history. So you know, for the 1094 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: one percent on remaining the one percent, I think that's 1095 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 1: gonna be great. But obviously it's for the fighters just 1096 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 1: below that tier that are struggling, the people that are 1097 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: risky going all in on a daily basis, barely able 1098 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: to afford training camps or even the rent to try 1099 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 1: to get to that next level to make the money. 1100 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: You want to see those fighters taken care of so 1101 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: they can take less major chances and be as fit 1102 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: as they should be coming into a fight. That's gonna 1103 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 1: be slow. The best way to fix it for the 1104 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: UFC is slow increment increases in pay or negotiations or 1105 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: like while you know, uh not while they're and God 1106 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: is going to sit down at this negotiation table soon, 1107 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: it seems, when his contract's going to be officially up 1108 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: at the end of this month, and you know they're 1109 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to have that talk. Is he going to 1110 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: move forward with the freedoms that he wants, the ability 1111 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: to go chase these other things like tyson fury for 1112 00:52:55,040 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 1: extra money or not. Will he get that? I think so, 1113 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 1: But he may get more money than he originally asked for. 1114 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: That makes up for it. Like most things, it's going 1115 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: to be a compromise, and I think you're gonna see 1116 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: slow little compromises that continue to raise the value of 1117 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: the fighters. I don't think we do talk enough as 1118 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: a pro UFC thing to say what they offer with 1119 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: the with the PI basically come in for free, eat, 1120 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 1: get taught how to do nutrition, train, you know, I mean, like, 1121 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, recover. Those type of things I think are 1122 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: a big plus that we don't you know, often go 1123 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: unto report it in terms of the great things UFC 1124 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,919 Speaker 1: is doing for the fighters. But I think it's gonna 1125 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: have to be slow trickles of more money because UFC 1126 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,479 Speaker 1: is just not going to go, oh yeah, you guys 1127 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 1: were right, we were wrong. What is the NBA and 1128 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: NFL pay percentage wise to their athletes will pay the same. No, 1129 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: it's not going to be that. But it's going to 1130 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: take more fighters taking a stand, you know, maybe not 1131 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: collectively joining arms and saying, hey, UFC eighty two, we're 1132 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: not all going out there unless you raise our pay. 1133 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. But something softer in that regard. 1134 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: It's going to be a slow movement there. Sorry for 1135 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: lingering before in the nineties, NB I get on a 1136 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 1: great run there. I know a bunch you were, you know, 1137 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: pausing your normally racist tweets to point that out. But 1138 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: Sean John TV jumps in and says, BC, have you 1139 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: been to a WrestleMania. I've been to nine straight. Myself 1140 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,919 Speaker 1: would love to get that factory town energy in there. 1141 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: I have. And it's funny. I made a comment the 1142 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: other day on Morning Combat of like, man, you know, 1143 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm as far out of being a pro wrestling fan 1144 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: right now, past year and a half, two years, like 1145 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: right now as I've ever been, and it feels not 1146 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: only great, I feel free, but I have myself kicking myself, going, man, 1147 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: what did I get from the past years? And so 1148 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: people you know you're rightfully started DM me like, BC, 1149 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Man? I love following your 1150 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: wrestling coverage. Your career went to, you know, another level 1151 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,319 Speaker 1: and you and you had all these great you're right 1152 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: covering box covering. I'm sorry pro wrestling from twenty sixteen 1153 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: when I was that person knocking on the door with 1154 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: the head of ESPN dot Com going, I think we 1155 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: got something here. I think we can make a page here. 1156 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: I think we can make coverage, you know, and everyone 1157 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: telling me it's impossible, And then it happened through getting 1158 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: hired by CBS and coverings that sport at as intense 1159 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 1: a level as you could through the beginning of the pandemic, 1160 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: meaning you know, I was still I was doing morning 1161 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 1: combat at some stretches of that. I'm covering everything going 1162 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: on in boxing, mixed martial arts, and watching in just 1163 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: a stupid insane amount of wrestling per week to make 1164 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: sure I'm completely up on it for podcast purposes. That 1165 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 1: was a grind that'll kill you. So that's what I 1166 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: kind of meant. Where now that that grind's over, did 1167 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: that grind consistently pay off the time put in? No, 1168 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: it didn't. It was really fun though, to reconnect with 1169 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: an element of my past, to get my kids involved 1170 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: for a short season, to attend so many big events. 1171 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 1: So what did I attend? I attended a couple wrestlmings 1172 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 1: in a row, the Orlando one, which I believe was 1173 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 1: thirty third, thirty three, I did New Orleans which I 1174 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: believe was Russell May in thirty four, and finally I 1175 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: did the Giant Stadium one that had Rousey and the 1176 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: three way female main event that went on like way 1177 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: past midnight, and then everybody got stuck outside in the 1178 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,719 Speaker 1: rain waiting for the trains, which was a big debacle. 1179 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: Those were fun. None of those in particular were great. 1180 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: WrestleMania's the one in Orlando seemed to be on its 1181 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: way to being something super special and then it went downhill, 1182 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: and then of course ended with that Roman Rings Undertaker 1183 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,400 Speaker 1: absolute debacle, which good old Taker should have just stayed 1184 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 1: away after that point. But you know, I've got a 1185 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 1: lot of love. Thank you Noel for the shout out. 1186 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: No copelandy'all got your back to whatever you need. BC 1187 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: cares if no one else cares. You know, I've got 1188 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: some favorite ones. I was a just a stupid, diehard 1189 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 1: fan entering WrestleMania one back in eighty five. That you know, 1190 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: I caught the bug in late eighty four through MTV 1191 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 1: the Rock and Wrestling Connection. I was insane fan through 1192 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: about nineteen ninety. WrestleMania six fell off, came back like 1193 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody else through the Attitude era, fell off for a 1194 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: long time, came back hardcore about you know, six seven 1195 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 1: years ago. I don't miss it, but that was a 1196 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: fun stretch. And I will say this about I did. 1197 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,920 Speaker 1: I was able to scratch off some real sort of 1198 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: bucket list fan moments of not just being in person 1199 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: at a Wrestle Inea and that weekend is it's a spectacle, 1200 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: it's a show. It's a dream if you're a fan. 1201 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: But getting to cover that and cover it what I 1202 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: always thought. I always thought there could be real coverage 1203 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,360 Speaker 1: in wrestling by mainstream outlets, again never presenting it as real, 1204 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: presenting it as a t scripted TV show in which 1205 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: we are now analysts and critiques of the direction of 1206 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: it and of the performance and all that not. Not 1207 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: this similar from being a rock or movie critic. Getting 1208 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 1: to go to like the Royal Rumble in San Antonio 1209 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen and go backstage, and you know, I 1210 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: was working for ESPN and Randy Orton wins the World 1211 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: Rumble and I'm in the locker room with him doing 1212 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: a you know, shoot interview. Those are some fun moments 1213 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: that you know, I'll save, I'll save for being back there. 1214 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: So I was in the crowd at Royal Rumble, uh, 1215 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,439 Speaker 1: San Antonio, twenty seventeen and in the media section there's 1216 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: no outlets. So my laptop's about to die. I complained 1217 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: to pr. They put me in the room, which is 1218 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: the last room before the wrestler's head to the ring. 1219 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: So this is during the Royal Rumble. All the offic 1220 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,360 Speaker 1: ww officials and bookers are in that room. Anyone who's 1221 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 1: not in Gorilla with Vince, this is the room next 1222 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: to it. It's everybody else, and everybody stops in the 1223 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 1: room on their way in. So it's like lesnar take 1224 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: or one after another. That's a pretty that's a pretty interesting, 1225 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: pretty fun scratch off moment right there, So thank you, 1226 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: let's keep it going. Josua josseuie F says, any tips 1227 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: on how to become a more efficient and effective writer. Yes, 1228 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,640 Speaker 1: efficiency is the key. It's it's obviously how to say 1229 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: more with less, something I do a poor job on 1230 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 1: in this type of especially this type of One man said, 1231 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,919 Speaker 1: you know, I got Mikey Mormalley here saying, hey BC, 1232 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: maybe we can you know, but you know, I'm kind 1233 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: of just running the show here, babling in MK in general, 1234 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 1: it's a form for babbling as podcasting has become. But 1235 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: I've done shorter scripted shows and I've certainly been a 1236 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 1: writer forever, and yeah, the biggest thing you need to 1237 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: learn is to say less with more. We all want 1238 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: to put every thought we have out there, but it's 1239 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: it's the restraint. As Chuckmannhall likes to say, it's the 1240 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: it's better to tease or better to sum up in 1241 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 1: one word or phrase than three paragraphs. You know, once 1242 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: you can get past that hurdle, once you can get best. 1243 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, if you're used to writing one fifteen hundred 1244 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: words of two thousand, but then you have an editor go, okay, 1245 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: I need this column, but I need to be seven hundred, 1246 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, like a newspaper. Writing was great for that. 1247 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, the space you had was the space you had, right. 1248 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: That was a great teacher of that right out of college. 1249 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 1: But in general, you know, it's yeah, it's good to 1250 00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,560 Speaker 1: learn more big words, but you don't want to go 1251 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,680 Speaker 1: too far. I mean, even Luke who's way more educated 1252 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: than me, and I give him a lot of credit for, 1253 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, how smart he is and the things he's accomplished, 1254 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: but you know, I think sometimes he even speaks in 1255 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: words where I'm like, dude, what the hell does that 1256 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: even mean? All right, you just infuriated me by using 1257 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: that word around my factory tone. Ass that's not the 1258 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,080 Speaker 1: big thing. You could be clever with with everyday words. 1259 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: But you know, try your best to avoid cliches, which 1260 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: is something I don't do in my podcasting speaking days. 1261 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm a cliche Maven, and just try to try to 1262 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: say more with less. The more you focus on that, 1263 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: you'll look smarter, you'll be you'll be easier to read. 1264 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the key at the end of the day, Becau. 1265 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Everybody wants to be brilliant, and there are some writers. 1266 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm Chuck Manhills a brilliant writer. I love reading him. 1267 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: I used to love Eric Raskin, co host of the 1268 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: Showtime Boxing podcast when he used to write for ESPN 1269 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,320 Speaker 1: and I was just a boxing fan er he wrote 1270 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: for The Ring. He wrote clever, brilliant takes on the 1271 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: sport that I always felt like while reading it that 1272 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: I've had that thought, but I've never articulated it before. 1273 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: And he's the first guy who did, and I'd always 1274 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: be like reading it jealous, like, oh man, he nailed that, 1275 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 1: he nailed that nail, that nail your points. Trim down 1276 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: some of the fluff and you'll get there, all right. 1277 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: But but if you're not injecting it with passion, what 1278 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: are you doing? That could be your writing game, That 1279 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: could be anything. Guys, we all can't like wake up 1280 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: and snap our fingers and change our lives and get 1281 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 1: exactly what we want. Like everything in life is a 1282 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: process and you have to work for it. But take 1283 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 1: it from somebody who was lucky to go down this 1284 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: long one way road and end up where I am now. 1285 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: And sometimes I stayed on that road only because necessity 1286 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: to keep the lights on right, there's sometimes you know, 1287 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: that's the only yeah, nowhere else to go right. Sometimes 1288 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 1: that's sometimes the reason why you are where you are today. 1289 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: But I'm lucky enough to be in a job that 1290 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 1: is my absolute passion that maybe one day a year, 1291 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: two days a year, do I ever wake up feeling 1292 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: like it's work and going, man, I don't want to 1293 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: do this today. You know. Maybe sometimes travel wise I 1294 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 1: feel like that, But in general, there's nothing I want 1295 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: to do more than sit right here in this chair 1296 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: and talk in circles. Do you guys? I mean seriously, 1297 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 1: so if you can figure. I know this question was 1298 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: about writing, but whether it's writing or anything, the quicker 1299 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 1: you can wake up if you're in an unhappy position 1300 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 1: and I get that there's necessity. You may be sell 1301 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: an insurance and you hate it, but that's the best 1302 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: job available to you right now, and you have to 1303 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: pay your mortgage and put close in your kids and 1304 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: I respect that, but don't wait until you're sixty five 1305 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: seventy five to go. Man, I never chased my passion 1306 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: in life. You know you can get to your passion 1307 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: without it being your full time job too. But whatever 1308 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 1: your passions are in life, I mean, drop everything right 1309 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: now and go in the direction of them. What are 1310 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 1: you waiting for? This is a very open ended inspirational 1311 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 1: quote and it may have hit the floor and meant 1312 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 1: nothing to you, but for anybody out there thinking, you know, 1313 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: should I do? What are you waiting for? I'm sorry 1314 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: to report this, but we can all get cancer tomorrow 1315 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: and die. And that's a harsh statement and it's happened 1316 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 1: to a lot of our people we love. But man, 1317 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: there ain't nothing guaranteed. So if youn't have the money, 1318 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: find a way. If you don't know what to do, 1319 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,960 Speaker 1: like go for a long walk and think about it. 1320 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: As soon as you take a step in that direction, 1321 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: you're be amazed at how those doors just start to open. 1322 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: It's never easy, it's never easy to get to the 1323 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: next door. So it's way harder. You know, that level 1324 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: up feeling, you know, not feeling when you're in fifth grade, 1325 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: and then you graduate from elementary school and you go 1326 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: suddenly you're in sixth grade, but you're like small and 1327 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: you're a loser, and everyone's like knocking the books out 1328 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: of your arms and putting crap in your locker. Maybe 1329 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: that was more of the eighties than today, or you know, 1330 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: same thing. You graduate eighth grade, go to ninth grade, 1331 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: or ninth grade, go to college, and you're like, man, 1332 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: this is so much harder than I thought. It's leveling 1333 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 1: up is always harder than you thought. But you'll get there. Okay, 1334 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: you'll get there. Thank you, Octopus with no friends. I 1335 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,479 Speaker 1: hope you gained some because there was a very sweet 1336 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: comedy made just there. Let's go over to this, Brandon, ABC, 1337 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 1: what are your top favorite five favorite nineties bands? Great question. 1338 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Brandy's were an interesting era, largely dominated, of course, by 1339 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: the breakout of grunge, which eventually got too commercial, even 1340 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: though I lived in that commerciality for a while. I 1341 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: think ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight, anybody in Hartford 1342 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 1: listened to one O four point one knows what I'm 1343 01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: talking about. But when we look back at what was 1344 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: great from the nineties, there's certainly some outliers of great 1345 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: albums from different genres that didn't necessarily spark a movement, 1346 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: But that alternative rock run, especially the purest form of it, 1347 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: was the decide. I mean, look, pip hop was great 1348 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: in the nineties, you know, whether the early nineties commercial 1349 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,880 Speaker 1: run through some of the biggest names in history launching 1350 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 1: their careers, jay Z, Tupac, Biggie all that. But I 1351 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: look at the nineties, I think Pearl Jam that's my 1352 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: favorite band from the nineties. Ten that's the best record 1353 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 1: from the nineties. Radiohead is in this conversation I've still 1354 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,760 Speaker 1: yet to complete. Like I don't even touched kid A. 1355 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: My best friend Bogus Bogo, you're out there, he's away. 1356 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm always like every couple to you tell me again, house, 1357 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: should I go for it? And when I do go 1358 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: for it, I'm gonna make a It's gonna be a 1359 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: long run. But Radiohead, I mean, I could live on 1360 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 1: just the Benz in Okay computer and just you know, 1361 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just yeah, that's in that discussion. Three others. 1362 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm a County Crows guy. And not not always through 1363 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: the commercial stuff. It's more the first than third records. 1364 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: But dude, that first record, August and everything after, and 1365 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: Luke always pooh poos it and I get it. You're like, 1366 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: oh around here, you know, I mean, I get it. 1367 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Any band rim is a great, any band from the 1368 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: nineties that you only know there are two commercial hits. 1369 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: If the commercial hit its two commercial or two annoying, 1370 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: you think that band sucks. August and everything after is 1371 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 1: basically like modern day Van Morrison. It's as good as 1372 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: that jazz folk pop rock sweet spot can get. And 1373 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: their catalog across the board didn't quite hold up to 1374 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: the genius of the first record. I thought this Desert Life, 1375 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the third one, was a nice comeback with those first two, 1376 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 1: those first three strong opening tracks. But I'll put that 1377 01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: band up there because they created a mood that I 1378 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 1: hung with with a long time. They put out that 1379 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: double live album I thought was really good, one acoustic, 1380 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: one rock. I know I'm not gonna win a lot 1381 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: of man points by saying that those are three bands 1382 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: right there. Fourth, I'll go Whiskey Town, which was a 1383 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 1: alternative country bands which Ryan Adams started and really was 1384 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: the launch into his successful solo career beginning in the 1385 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: early two thousands. But you go put on nineteen ninety 1386 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 1: six Faithless Street by Whiskey Town. That's as despair, dark 1387 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and drunk a alternative country rock record as you can find. 1388 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:18,920 Speaker 1: And finally number five. It's a great question here if 1389 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I really had to narrow it down. You know, I 1390 01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: certainly love specific albums from bands, but does that band 1391 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,600 Speaker 1: hold up across the board. I'm gonna say this, and 1392 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,640 Speaker 1: I'm somewhat surprised. I was a Monster Rage fan like 1393 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people. In fact, my dad, I gotta 1394 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 1: get my dad credit. He's a mysterious music listener, meaning 1395 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 1: growing up he had an insane vinyl collection, which he's 1396 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: now gifted to me. Thank you, Dad. It's as great 1397 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: a look through of seventies rock history than you can imagine. 1398 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 1: My dad became a universal music fan of the eighties, nineties, 1399 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: two thousands today, where you know, he welcome into a 1400 01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 1: lot of what I call crap, shameless pop, you know, 1401 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: contemporary country, just just a lot of just bullshit. But 1402 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: he is a respector of all good tunes. And my 1403 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 1: dad was like day one ish t ninety two on 1404 01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Rage against the Machine like six months before anybody of 1405 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 1: high school even talking about that record. And you ever 1406 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: understand that record became like I went to dogged to 1407 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: high school in the nineties when their swim team was, 1408 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, a power and we have the craziest coach 1409 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: ever and Jim mcke who would let them all come 1410 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: out and shaved heads with giant banners that say war 1411 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: and Die. They'd steal the other team's mascot, throw it 1412 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 1: in the water, and then blast Rage against the Machines 1413 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: first record at the top of the things, and parents 1414 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 1: were just like, yeah, this is normal, this is cool. 1415 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just as ridiculous as it gets and 1416 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: it's badass. My dad was like way ahead of those guys, 1417 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,919 Speaker 1: just blasting Rage in the basement. And I've loved them. 1418 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I've always been a big first two albums are as 1419 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: good as anything came out in the nineties of any band. 1420 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 1: But I've always stood by Also Battle of Los Angeles, 1421 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: a third record which was a little bit more contemporary, 1422 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: not pop, but a little bit more commercial than the 1423 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 1: first two. All three stand up. I'm gonna put Rages 1424 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: my fifth one because I love them then, but it's 1425 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,680 Speaker 1: really now that I'm going song by song, album by 1426 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: album and just really appreciating how you know, it's funny. 1427 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't consider rage it is historically like like like 1428 01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 1: we say, Nirvana's Smells like teen Spait at least commercially 1429 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: launched the grudge movement. Sure, my middle school dances all 1430 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: had hip hop until Smells like teen Spare came out, 1431 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,719 Speaker 1: and then they would play like two or three times 1432 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: in a row just because like people like that, you know, 1433 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,240 Speaker 1: in that own way. Rage against the Machine launched this 1434 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 1: rap metal movement, but that rap metal movement became such 1435 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: utter shit. Like I like three eleven, I thought they 1436 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,640 Speaker 1: had it with the Omaha style. I thought they had 1437 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 1: an interesting sort of cohesion with all that, But what 1438 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: became the movement is just such utter bullshit. You know, 1439 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 1: it's like Limp Biscuit and all that. And you know 1440 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 1: that there's some redeeming songs out of that and albums 1441 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 1: and even groups, but you know it played perfectly Like 1442 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 1: when I watched the Woodstock ninety nine documentary, I'm like, 1443 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,640 Speaker 1: not both of them, not only do both the documentaries. 1444 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 1: Just like Nail, the average white suburban kids just lost nature, 1445 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: which led a lot of people to the ridiculousness is 1446 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: that one on that and that this entitlement feeling back 1447 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: then of just like I got nothing going on in 1448 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 1: my life, like we're not in war time. My family 1449 01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: has enough money, but I'm just lost. I could identify 1450 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,839 Speaker 1: with that. There was some shitty rock in the late nineties, 1451 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 1: then the rap rock into like even that whole like 1452 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 1: Three Doors Down nickel Back, which you know some again 1453 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: some of that's okay, but it's that's some shitty ass rock. 1454 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: Rage is like the almost the light the match for 1455 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 1: that era. Yet nobody comes close from that run of 1456 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: anything as timeless, as unique as genius, as exactly what 1457 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 1: those guys did. So yeah, those are my five bands 1458 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: of the nineties. Hate me all you want, Justin t 1459 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,040 Speaker 1: says BC. What's the fight that got you into boxing? 1460 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I've done this a few times in different in different 1461 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: bonuses here, but it was a combination. Okay, it was 1462 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 1: the Rocky movies because right when I became of age 1463 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 1: as a young child of what is boxing, I'm going 1464 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 1: to the theater to see Rocky three and four. I'm 1465 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: watching one and two on VHS all the time. And 1466 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: then you cannot discount that after Hagler Hearns happened, how 1467 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,959 Speaker 1: often that was replayed on regular television. It was insane. 1468 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: So I'd say Hagler, Hearns and a Rocky built the foundation. 1469 01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: It helped that I had a grandfather in Pennsylvania who 1470 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 1: liked no sports butt boxing and would always play it. 1471 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,479 Speaker 1: So like the night on HBO that holy Field and 1472 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,799 Speaker 1: Tyson were on the same card, and I think Tyson 1473 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: made his like big time debut. You know, I was 1474 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: there on the playing with toys in front of the 1475 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: TV as my dad and grandfather watched it. But I 1476 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: always point out in nineteen eighty seven Superfight Sugar et 1477 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 1: Leonard coming back from that long retirement through the eye injury, 1478 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 1: moving up to middleweight and fighting in fighting Marvin Hagler, 1479 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,519 Speaker 1: that was the first fight that was like appointment viewing. 1480 01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 1: My dad bought the pay per view. It was a 1481 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: Monday night back then. He bought it at my grandparents' 1482 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 1: house and set up a party with friends and family. 1483 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,679 Speaker 1: And you know, you'll never forget I was eight. You'll 1484 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: never forget that feeling of like who's gonna win this 1485 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 1: big fight? And you had the comeback angle. It took 1486 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 1: something huge for my dad not as sports fan to 1487 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 1: cross over into the realm of being like, yeah, let's 1488 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 1: get the pay per view and get people over. It 1489 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: was easier in the nineties when we had the illegal 1490 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: box in. Him and I would watch all the early 1491 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,439 Speaker 1: UFCS and all the post jail Tyson pay per view fights, 1492 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,839 Speaker 1: and I think looking back, that's where we really bonded 1493 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,600 Speaker 1: sports wise. We did watch one Super Bowl together, the 1494 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Steelers Cowboys won with when Neil O'Donnell blew it. But 1495 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: outside of that, you know, it's hard to get my 1496 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 1: dad in front of the TV for that stuff. Maybe 1497 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: that's fueled my sort of passion for boxing. But Hagler 1498 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 1: versus Leonard, which went twelve rounds, which had one of 1499 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 1: the most you know, disputed decisions in modern memory, not 1500 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: because people thought the guy that won or guy that 1501 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,720 Speaker 1: lost got robbed and the other guy shouldn't have won. 1502 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I think it was more like people thought it could 1503 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: have gone either way, and to this day people want 1504 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 1: to even fight about it. There's just something to that. 1505 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: My dad taped out of VHS. I rewatched it a 1506 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: million times. I was a Leonard fan. I was sort 1507 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,520 Speaker 1: of like trying every time I watched it to reconvince 1508 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,200 Speaker 1: myself that yes, indeed Leonard did win. That really set 1509 01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: the stage for what a couple of years later, when 1510 01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: that nineties heavyweight division just went full blooming. I remember, 1511 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 1: like pay per view wasn't a regular thing for the 1512 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 1: most part. I mean when when Foreman fought holy Field 1513 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,000 Speaker 1: on pay per view on HBO on the early night 1514 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 1: was a ninety one ninety two, like that was a 1515 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: big deal. Like I remember watching that through the squiggly line, 1516 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: so you know, those were the foundations that were built. 1517 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 1: I also veered out of boxing at times, and it 1518 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,720 Speaker 1: took fights like Gotty Ward to bring me back in. 1519 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: It took you know, there's there's been times when that's happened. 1520 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: Of course, now it's it's it's life, it's life and death. 1521 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 1: Let's keep it going. Here, Mitch says Bryce Mitchell versus 1522 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,120 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan flat Earth debate. Who you got? I'm gonna 1523 01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: go with Bryce Mitchell here, and I I don't know 1524 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,719 Speaker 1: if you guys saw this that. Yes, there's the UFC 1525 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 1: embedded series right now. There's also some other UFC series 1526 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,280 Speaker 1: out there on YouTube that's about the Ilia Tuporia on 1527 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Bryce Mitchell fight. I forgot what the title is, but 1528 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: it's basically like cameras follow them around their house, the 1529 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,400 Speaker 1: same same thing as all the other ones. But it's 1530 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: really good and to really see who Bryce Mitchell is. 1531 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like we all remember when he was did 1532 01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: that interview was it was it Rogan or aerial? Where 1533 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: did that interviewer? And made you know, somewhat ridiculous claims 1534 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of people are like, WHOA, this is 1535 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 1: getting conspiratorial. He's also like a stand up guy, believes 1536 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,320 Speaker 1: in like loyalty and family and faith. And to see 1537 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: him as a farmer and the connection he has with 1538 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 1: his coach, who you know, Bryce didn't grow up with 1539 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,080 Speaker 1: a dad, and he kind of grew up in you know, 1540 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:24,120 Speaker 1: situations I'm finding out from the show that weren't promising, 1541 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,759 Speaker 1: and you know, he had this coach kind of step 1542 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: in and be that dad and they're like best friends today. 1543 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: And Bryce is this like redneck farmer. To be polite 1544 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,599 Speaker 1: in saying it, I think that dude can get weird 1545 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: in ways that even could perplex Joe and could lead 1546 01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,680 Speaker 1: him to winning a debate in this And I'd love 1547 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 1: to get Bryce Mitchell on the RSD and I think 1548 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: sometimes I've mentioned stuff like that, people like, oh, be careful. No, 1549 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 1: I think I understand Bryce Mitchell's craziness, and I think 1550 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: I like it to a certain degree. We may not 1551 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,360 Speaker 1: align perfectly on certain things politically or conspiratorially, but you know, 1552 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,919 Speaker 1: I'm really liking the personality of who Bryce Mitchell is becoming, 1553 01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 1: even though he towes the line on certain categories. There 1554 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: he's a man of integrity, it seems. But the thing 1555 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 1: about that is, like I say this all the time, 1556 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: like I see debate in life, you know, whether it's 1557 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: fueled by politics or religion. Like, really, right now is 1558 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 1: obviously the greatest time in our history of this divide 1559 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 1: of people, Like, you know, I see it in my family. 1560 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,640 Speaker 1: You can see it on Facebook any day. It's like 1561 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 1: people are really willing to write other people off for 1562 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 1: life because they don't agree with them in their presidential 1563 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 1: choice or and their take on abortion. And I'm not 1564 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,280 Speaker 1: you know who pointing any of the seriousness of these 1565 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: potential non negotiable topics that people choose to live and 1566 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: die under. But people choose to you know, they're willing 1567 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 1: to like end friendships over this. You know, I look 1568 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 1: at Bryce Mitchell and go. You know, I might not 1569 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 1: agree with everything he says, but I do respect the 1570 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,800 Speaker 1: integrity there and what he stands on, and I think 1571 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,599 Speaker 1: he believes it. So I'm going to go in that regard. 1572 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap upare a couple more quick ones here 1573 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,920 Speaker 1: on the way out. This is an experiment, to be 1574 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 1: honest with you. I think the BC Life Chat it's 1575 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 1: either going to fail miserably or it's going to slowly 1576 01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: build and we'll alter the format. This is just weight 1577 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,400 Speaker 1: try and see we did it, Bullfrog actual says BC. 1578 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 1: Dazed and Confused or American Pie. Great question about two 1579 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 1: party high school movies from the same era. I've got 1580 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: to go Dazed and Confused. Even though it was from 1581 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the nineties, it obviously was a snapshot of life in 1582 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Texas in the late seventies. It has arguably the best 1583 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,680 Speaker 1: soundtrack in movie history, and it's got two CDs of it. 1584 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 1: It captured high school weed culture in party culture, probably 1585 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 1: in a timeless manner better than anyone ever. There's a 1586 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of one liners in there. It's the whole 1587 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 1: high school hazing culture. It's incredible. Now, American Pie, I 1588 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 1: loved and I think for the moment when it came 1589 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 1: out in ninety nine, for where comedy was in terms 1590 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,960 Speaker 1: of mainstream for that age, it was revolutionary. It hit hard, 1591 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 1: it was aggressive, it was great. I saw it on 1592 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 1: a first date, which is really awkward, and there was 1593 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: no second date, not by my choosing. It wasn't a 1594 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,040 Speaker 1: movie that ultimately dictated that. It may have been your 1595 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,160 Speaker 1: boy BC coming not too strong, but no surprise there. 1596 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 1: But it was really good. But I don't think it 1597 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,320 Speaker 1: stands up. I think they confuses timeless and I think 1598 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: it stands up, and I think it's brilliantly written written 1599 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: in that regard, Do we have time for any more 1600 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 1: of BC's rambles. Let me looking up and down this list, 1601 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:22,679 Speaker 1: slip in one or two more. NCR Ranger, says YOBC 1602 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. It was flabbergasted to hear that 1603 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,920 Speaker 1: you actually read so read any fiction, literature or purely 1604 01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: sports and such related books. It's a question, he just asked, 1605 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,080 Speaker 1: keep up being you man. Love from the Netherlands. So 1606 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 1: first of all, thank you from the Netherlands. We have 1607 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,519 Speaker 1: fans from spots that I, you know, I didn't even 1608 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: know exist sometimes or just hope to visit in a dream. 1609 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,800 Speaker 1: The fact that you guys are sitting at home or 1610 01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 1: now on your phone or with your air plugs in 1611 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 1: or whatever listen to me is just insane to me. 1612 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,800 Speaker 1: But I'm not an avid reader, and I think that 1613 01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 1: that fits well into the carictural generalization of sort of 1614 01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 1: like lu Luke as the intellectual and BC as the 1615 01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,439 Speaker 1: factory town college dropout. I just never been a big, 1616 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 1: uh fiction guy in print form. You know, love a 1617 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: good movie, love all that. Certainly have read books that 1618 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 1: changed me to a certain degree, but you know, I 1619 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,840 Speaker 1: mean I love the classics that we're all forced to read, 1620 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 1: like a Great Gatsby or a you know, my my 1621 01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: son's reading Ketcher in the Rye right now. I was like, 1622 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 1: oh dude, we could connect, you know. But no. I 1623 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,719 Speaker 1: like to read self help books some that that that 1624 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: that figure into the Christian realm. I like to read 1625 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 1: uh sports and music biographies to inspire me. Yeah, uh 1626 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: you know, I I would like to do more. It's 1627 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 1: hard to keep me there, but uh, you know, I 1628 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 1: just read Joni Mitchell's Insane biography and and it Yeah. 1629 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 1: I tend to read more entertainment wise, but maybe that 1630 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: makes me not an intellectual. All right, final question here, 1631 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 1: here we go. Silky says, Fury versus Usik, how do 1632 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 1: you see that fight? And can Usik out box Fury? 1633 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Here we go, It's possible, It's certainly possible. Face value, 1634 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna favor Fury face value. Fury should win. He's 1635 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 1: six foot nine compared to the six foot three, uh sick, 1636 01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 1: and I believe their speed is not that far off 1637 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 1: punching power wise. You have to give Fury credit for 1638 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,640 Speaker 1: evolving by putting on more weight, which is always what 1639 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: his dad wanted. His dad never wanted him to be 1640 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 1: as thin as he was when he came back in 1641 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the first wild their fight John Big John Fury always 1642 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 1: wants his son bulked up, fat and ready to hit hard. 1643 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 1: And I do think changing trainers ahead of the while 1644 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: to rematch with with sugar Hill Stewart has has opened 1645 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 1: up a next level of Tyson's well rounded game. It's 1646 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of closed that hole where no, he's not a 1647 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,679 Speaker 1: He's not like at the surface of one punch guy. 1648 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: Although he won punched Dillian White in front of ninety you, 1649 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people and that was pretty exciting. But 1650 01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: when he's learned how to lean on his bulk more. 1651 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 1: And I think the lessons he learned in the Otto 1652 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Vahleen fight when he had that bad cut of how 1653 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: to fight, the more of the big man physical style 1654 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,679 Speaker 1: and less of this holy crap. Look at that six 1655 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 1: foot nine heavyweight who's dancing around like a middleweight. He's 1656 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 1: still got that. But I don't know if that's exactly 1657 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 1: what's gonna be Alexander Usik. I expect Fury to win. 1658 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,240 Speaker 1: I think the real hook of this fight, along with 1659 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:19,080 Speaker 1: the prestige is is Usik's boxing ability, game planning, adapting. 1660 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,519 Speaker 1: Is it so good that it could even give Tyson 1661 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 1: Fury trouble? I think it could. I think it could. 1662 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 1: I think that's the hook of you what you want 1663 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 1: to see. Can Usik outsmart Fury and give himself a 1664 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: case on the scorecards at the end of the day, 1665 01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 1: I think he can, But I do think the odds 1666 01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 1: are against him because it's obvious you just don't have 1667 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 1: there's those guys like a unicorn. You just don't have 1668 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,559 Speaker 1: six foot nine guys who can switch stances that type 1669 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 1: of reach that quick. That's smart. And then at the 1670 01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 1: end of the day, if it gets Harry Fury has 1671 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,680 Speaker 1: shown time and again he is a futon man. I'm 1672 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 1: a futon man. He is a fighting man. He will 1673 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,679 Speaker 1: stand in there and take it. So I think for 1674 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: for Usk he took even though the two wins over 1675 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 1: Joshua were brilliant, I do think he you know, he 1676 01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 1: had to be in the line of fire, particularly that 1677 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 1: first one, and he did take some shots where I'm like, 1678 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,640 Speaker 1: maybe against somebody like Fury who's a little bit more 1679 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 1: accurate than Joshua and a little bit smarter of a 1680 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 1: game planner, could we find that, Like look, Derk Chashoa, 1681 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 1: who just got actually dominated for the third time by Fury, 1682 01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 1: but is a good fighter. You give it Husick problems. 1683 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,360 Speaker 1: It's styles make fights. He gave who sick problems, got inside, 1684 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,120 Speaker 1: made it for a good made it physical Fury if 1685 01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 1: he commits not to boxing but to lean it on 1686 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,000 Speaker 1: usick what Joshua never really was able to do or 1687 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 1: even try, which was the shocking part. Yeah, Tyson Fury 1688 01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,759 Speaker 1: should win this, but I think the watching it happen, 1689 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: two undefeated fighters, four titles at stake, guys, that's the 1690 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 1: best fight you can make a boxing today. Shortest Bence Crawford. 1691 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,600 Speaker 1: It really is Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia is in 1692 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,880 Speaker 1: that as well, and I can't wait for it. But yeah, 1693 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: that's why that fight is so good. Look, folks, I 1694 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what happened here. I could 1695 01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 1: go another three hours answering your fun questions and maybe 1696 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 1: sometimes I go a little bit too long. But this 1697 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 1: is my life, this is my head, and you all 1698 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:06,040 Speaker 1: entered in it for ninety minutes or so. I'd like 1699 01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: you to hit the like button and i'd like to comment. 1700 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,479 Speaker 1: You to comment in this comment section on this YouTube channel, 1701 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 1: right here, on this stream, if this is your bag, 1702 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: baby or not, if the BC live chat has a future, 1703 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 1: because I want you to know I could do this 1704 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 1: all day, every day. One thing Luke Thomas said to me, 1705 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 1: said BC. Maybe this was lou being a good big brother. 1706 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 1: He said, you know, you gotta feed this this dog. 1707 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 1: You gotta take care of it, you gotta walk it. 1708 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 1: You can't just say, hey, folks, I'm gonna launch a 1709 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 1: live chat and then after thirty minutes be like, I 1710 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,320 Speaker 1: don't know if I can keep this up. Guys, this 1711 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 1: is not an issue the longevity on this end. I 1712 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,960 Speaker 1: can do this every day. You want to talk seventies music. 1713 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: I had albums prepared. I was gonna break down if 1714 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,519 Speaker 1: the questions got slow. I mean, we can make some 1715 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: fun segments in here and make this a thing. But 1716 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: it only depends on if you like that. If you 1717 01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,120 Speaker 1: want to get inside BC's head, it's up to you. 1718 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,479 Speaker 1: You do. I'm here, I'll do this all right. We'll 1719 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 1: start slow, we'll see what we got here. But if 1720 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,400 Speaker 1: this sucked the horn, say it all right, don't just 1721 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: sing it, bring it all right. Thank you. I enjoyed this. 1722 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,639 Speaker 1: It was a little trip around the mind, a little 1723 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: trick back to the nineteen nineties. But BC is here 1724 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 1: for you. I love your baby. Thank you. Like, subscribe, comment, 1725 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 1: check out our opponus content of course, YouTube dot com. 1726 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,679 Speaker 1: Slash Morning Combat pregame preview with Chuck Minenhall is up. 1727 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 1: We're always hitting up with fun interviews. Luke Thomas sat 1728 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,679 Speaker 1: down with Davonte Davis yesterday in DC after the press 1729 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: conference to promote his fight A lot to talk about 1730 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia. You're not gonna want to miss that. There's 1731 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,840 Speaker 1: some questions in there about Luke and I beefing. You know, 1732 01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 1: people want the real story. Gotta wait till the next chant. Okay, 1733 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: that's all I gotta say. I do like me some 1734 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,360 Speaker 1: of Luke Thomas a lot. He's my business in editorial, 1735 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,799 Speaker 1: life partner in this regard. But you know, every marriage 1736 01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,080 Speaker 1: has its ups and downs, you know. Look at Mike 1737 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: and the mad Dog, look at oj Nicole. No, that's 1738 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: just that's sorry, al right. For my great producer, Mikey Mormile, 1739 01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 1: for the great fans of Morning Combat, and the great 1740 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,719 Speaker 1: people that put on this show. This is yet another 1741 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: thing we do here. Okay, it's the BACI live chat 1742 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,760 Speaker 1: one and done in the books. Thank you for joining in. 1743 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Two words okay, well, two things. One, protect this. It's 1744 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 1: not a shame to go through a hard season. The 1745 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 1: only shame is not talking about it, not telling anybody, 1746 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,200 Speaker 1: and not figuring out ways to get better from it. 1747 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 1: We all struggle, we all do. And if you're in 1748 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 1: it deep right now, you got nailing family member, you 1749 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,880 Speaker 1: lost your job, you broke up, whatever it is, We've 1750 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,599 Speaker 1: been there. You're gonna get through this all right. Spring 1751 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,240 Speaker 1: follows winter, guys, every single year. Okay, believe it. I'm 1752 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 1: here for you, brother. And number two, two words for 1753 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,280 Speaker 1: the people right, we out. That's it. I'm done. I 1754 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:52,640 Speaker 1: don't want to do that's it. That's it.