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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. AH, welcome in another

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Speaker 1: beautiful Fox Football Sunday underway here live from well the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios, Los Angeles. For me, Greg out

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Speaker 1: on the East Coast, we are taking over the country

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Speaker 1: bit by bit globally on the iHeartRadio app. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you being part of the extended family as we get

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Speaker 1: ready for another fantastic slate of games. Week one gave

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Speaker 1: us all sorts of fun and surprises depending on the city,

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Speaker 1: the temperature already getting pretty toasty for some coaches, some

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks some others, and feeling of the love at least,

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Speaker 1: even if it's short lived. Week one gave them a

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Speaker 1: little bit of grace. All of that coming off of

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Speaker 1: a huge night in college football, some upsets, some chaos,

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Speaker 1: some quarterbacks there as well. You're hurting the update from

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Speaker 1: Steve de Seger lagway with five interceptions, LSU, you got

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly fighting with reporters.

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Speaker 2: We won the game.

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Speaker 1: What are you from us? Because that's the end of

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Speaker 1: the end line to all of it, isn't it, Greg

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Speaker 1: cosel you play to win the game? He channeled HERM

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Speaker 1: Edwards a bunch of times, and I think you really

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Speaker 1: wanted to take the guy out in the parking lot.

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Speaker 2: Actually was I was focused on. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: if you realized you made a little pun there, Mike

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Speaker 2: when you said some quarterbacks feeling the love. I kind

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Speaker 2: of like that. I don't even think you realized you

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and sometimes we just slide those in

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Speaker 1: and consciousness the coffee. Coffee's starting to work.

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Speaker 2: Greg.

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Speaker 1: We found a place here that will take care of

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Speaker 1: Gus at four am, so the gate and there you

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Speaker 1: got a little herm Edwards going back in the day.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Jordan love a guy right now. That coming

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Speaker 1: off of last season, Greg, remember he got hurt in

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Speaker 1: Week one in Brazile. So it was always the question of, well,

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Speaker 1: what bar like if we were doing a video game,

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Speaker 1: what was this strength bar over the course of the year,

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Speaker 1: and how much did they have to course correct? And

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Speaker 1: now you bring in Micah Parsons for that defense, which

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Speaker 1: was already a top ten year, and you got what

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Speaker 1: we saw on Thursday Night Football in a pretty resounding

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Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny because the more tape I watch,

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Speaker 2: and it's always, look, everybody wants my you know, really

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Speaker 2: good players. We know that if you have really great players,

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Speaker 2: that's great. But the more I watch, and maybe this

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Speaker 2: is just my background being taught by coaches, great coaches

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Speaker 2: a year or two. This isn't my first rodeo. As

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Speaker 2: you know, I just see so much well done with coaching.

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Speaker 2: Like when I watch the Packers, and I watched that,

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Speaker 2: I already watched the coaching tape of that game. And

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, I thought, on offense,

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Speaker 2: Lafleur did some great things. I thought on defense, Jeff Hafley,

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Speaker 2: And for two weeks now they are doing some terrific

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Speaker 2: for him. You know, we can get into this a

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Speaker 2: great things on both sides of the ball, and it,

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Speaker 2: you know, to me, coaching plays such a big part

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Speaker 1: You know, Greg Greg Cosell, the NFL films, the NFL

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Speaker 1: Matchup Show, Uh, you follow all of it at Greg

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Speaker 1: co Sell on Twitter. Some of the great tape breakdown

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Speaker 1: He joins Colin Coward each and every week on FS

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Speaker 1: one here on Fox Sports Radio with some of the

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Speaker 1: breakdown of the tape and and as we go through

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Speaker 1: it and watching that game play out on Thursday, and

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Speaker 1: just think about it on a large scale, Greg, we're

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Speaker 1: also blessed Jason Smith and I in the evenings. One

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Speaker 1: of the relationships we forged through the years with Jay Glazer,

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Speaker 1: and as you know, he's close with a lot of

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Speaker 1: this whole trade process as it came to fruition with

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Speaker 1: how do you get through to to micah Uh And

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Speaker 1: pulling the strings and watching Love. I mean just from

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Speaker 1: the first snap, he just seemed really comfortable. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: hear one of the big plays that separated this game, Greg.

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Speaker 2: Jacobs to the right side of Love and the shotgun

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Speaker 3: Love rolls like those.

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Speaker 2: Ton of beautiful playfact by Jordan Love Tucker Craft a

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Speaker 1: Great Wayne Larevie on the Packers radio network. Folks forget

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne's been doing it for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one of those unmistakable voices there, but Tucker

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny you say that, because I

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Speaker 2: And you know that's a mismatch. So that's the kind

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Speaker 2: Lafleur did a great job. They showed the thirteen personnel

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Speaker 2: if you're a call Craft is wide open. You probably

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Speaker 1: Mike, I don't know, I might have one or two

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Speaker 1: left in me, Greg, I've been putting off shoulder surgery

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Speaker 1: for a while. All those those years of tossing the

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Speaker 2: Believe me, I understand that. I'm I'm with you on them. Now.

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Speaker 1: I'm like doing that shot put thing that we see.

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Speaker 2: Know, and it just yeah, they caught him, they got him,

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Speaker 2: and you know, one of the things the Packers do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And add the coaching side of things and what's

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Speaker 1: he did. It's one of the few wins I get

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Speaker 1: to claim with great regularity here at Fox Sports Radio one.

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Speaker 1: I used to fight with people that Josh Allen was

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Speaker 1: But also I argued from draft day on that the

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Speaker 2: and how they were vilified when they drafted Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: And now look how that played out. But anyway, the

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Speaker 2: you remember that season. He was really, really good and

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Speaker 2: just not a comfortable player at all that last season

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Speaker 1: of the National Football League Season. One game already in

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Speaker 1: the books, that big Packer win that has people going

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Speaker 1: out and buying multiple cheeseheads for friends and family. And

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Speaker 1: I started getting random ads for cheese curds in all

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Speaker 1: of my socials. Greg, So I think the walls have

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Speaker 1: ears one.

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Speaker 2: Where what does a cheese curd? Mike, what is a

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Speaker 2: cheese curd?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's part of the cheese making process where

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Speaker 1: it's in a little more of a raw form and

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Speaker 1: then you usually fire it over some fries with some gravy,

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Speaker 1: make a nice routine.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know. Maybe it's me on the East

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Speaker 2: coast that doesn't sound And I like cheese a lot,

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Speaker 2: but that just doesn't sound great to me.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of the pull apart, like it's it's

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Speaker 1: got a little bit of a different texture and look

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Speaker 1: to it for sure. But I'll tell you what, they're delicious.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a Midwest thing, you know.

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Speaker 1: I believe absolutely that is. I could have ordered a

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Speaker 1: bunch from from the great state of Wisconsin. There's no

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Speaker 1: question there, you got it. Let's see here's how it's uh.

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Speaker 1: It's defined the fresh, unaged, and unpressed pieces of cheese

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Speaker 1: separated from the way during the cheese making process. Most

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Speaker 1: famously that schaeddar.

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Speaker 2: That is way beyond my simple mind. Cheese.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it's all does it taste good? How

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Speaker 1: much can I eat? And what does it work best with?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very few foods I don't like, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: I tell you, you fire and fire it with some of

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Speaker 1: the gravy. It's especially over there in Canada.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Well, I didn't live in Detroit my

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Speaker 2: first year out of college. Outside of Detroit. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: was about one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 1: Well, but you know what the change. Maybe I'll order

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Speaker 1: some and send some your way and see what I

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Speaker 1: did there.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just getting all pony uh. And as

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Speaker 1: we get the y into the mix. Hey for the

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Speaker 1: obliquely brought it in in the first segment. Greg, Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll have to rip the band aid off for the

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Speaker 1: people in Detroit. John Morton not to be confused with

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Speaker 1: former USC wide receiver Johnny Morton and the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: and the post Ben Johnson era, a little bit of

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Speaker 1: growing pains and trying to figure out, you know, how

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Speaker 1: to make that work with all of the requisite heroes

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Speaker 1: that would be for your fantasy teams and for an

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Speaker 1: offense with Jared Goff to where whenever we he can

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Speaker 1: start piling up stats of with this guy and this

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Speaker 1: guy not as his play caller. The record is now.

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Speaker 1: I think it's three eighteen and one for Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: with no Ben Johnson, and I think Sean McVay is

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Speaker 1: the other guy on the list. Two heavyweights, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. But going back on the tape from there

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Speaker 1: that week one game, what'd you see from golf?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that gets back to the Packers in many ways,

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Speaker 2: that was not a good game, a good defense to

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Speaker 2: play against and for a first game for a new

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Speaker 2: offensive coordinator because there was so much post snap movement

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Speaker 2: and you know Goff. You know, it's funny you mentioned

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Speaker 2: that about Goff with McVeigh and Ben Johnson. That's the

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Speaker 2: case with pretty much all quarterbacks. They all need the

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Speaker 2: offensive pass game approach to define things for them. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Goff is a really good pocket quarterback, that's what he is.

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Speaker 2: He's not a playmaker. He's not going to run around

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Speaker 2: and make plays. The play action pass game has been

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Speaker 2: the foundation of the allions on Under Ben Johnson, they

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Speaker 2: didn't do as much of that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And that one thing that really stood out, and it

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Speaker 2: was they didn't throw the ball between the numbers and

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Speaker 2: GoF is probably the best quarterback in the league over

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Speaker 2: the last number of years and making those timing rhythm

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Speaker 2: throws at the intermediate levels between the numbers. Uh, and

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Speaker 2: that just wasn't really part of their offense. Now. I

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Speaker 2: don't know whether that was GoF just not getting a

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Speaker 2: clear picture. I don't know if they didn't feel they

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Speaker 2: could call that against the defense they were playing. Normally,

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Speaker 2: that's not a factor at all, but it was. It

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Speaker 2: was an uncomfortable game for the entire offense. And don't

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Speaker 2: forget they were a really good running team too, and

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Speaker 2: they did not run the ball very well. So you know,

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Speaker 2: GoF is an executor and a ball distributor, Mike. He's

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Speaker 2: not a guy that, hey, just put the ball in

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Speaker 2: Jared Gof's hands and he's going to just make plays

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Speaker 2: whatever that means. I love when people say that, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I mean he's a he's an executor and a

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Speaker 2: ball distributor, and he needs the pass game and the

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Speaker 2: concepts to present it to him, and when they do,

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Speaker 2: he's really really good.

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Speaker 1: Well, we look at the overall numbers thirty one and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine two hundred and twenty five yards. That translates

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Speaker 1: to fewer than five point eight yards per pass attempt.

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Speaker 1: And one of the notes that we got to go

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Speaker 1: through in terms of trying to find explosives, right, that

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Speaker 1: stands in start contrast to what we saw from Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love on Thursday night, where he was averaging better than

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Speaker 1: ten yards of completion all that long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's because they could not get the ball,

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Speaker 2: you know, at that intermediate level, they could not get vertical.

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Speaker 2: I mean they just it was, like I said, it

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Speaker 2: just was an uncomfortable passing game for them. You know,

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Speaker 2: thirty one completions for two hundred and twenty five yards

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Speaker 2: is usually not going to get it done, not in

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Speaker 2: this league. You know, there were really no big plays,

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Speaker 2: and like I said, they couldn't run the ball very well,

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Speaker 2: So it was just it was just one of those

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Speaker 2: performances that you know, I'm not one who takes Week

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Speaker 2: one and decides that's the way the season is going

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Speaker 2: to go. You know, I guess they're home this week,

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Speaker 2: right for Chicago, that that game's at home.

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Speaker 1: You got it nearly a touchdown favorite in this one,

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Speaker 1: six and a half, forty six and a half, So

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Speaker 1: expecting some fireworks here.

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Speaker 2: We'll get a better sense. We'll get a better sense

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Speaker 2: of golf this week and that offense. You know, and again,

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Speaker 2: like I said, people need to understand. And I really

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Speaker 2: like Jared Goff as a player. I think he's actually

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Speaker 2: had a really good career. He's a certain kind of player,

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Speaker 2: but he's very good at that. So but I think

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Speaker 2: with him, the coaching and the concepts matter a lot,

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Speaker 2: and if they're good and he sees it the right way,

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Speaker 2: he's really really good.

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Speaker 1: So we've now got him going up against Dennis Allen

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Speaker 1: and the Bears defense look yes, pretty strong for a

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Speaker 1: good three quarters, and now we have to well, I've

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Speaker 1: got to take my medicine this morning, because certainly a

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Speaker 1: lot of it on air Monday night alongside Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: as we watched the second half unfold JJ McCarthy making plays.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about the Bears offense. Ben Johnson already

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Speaker 1: he and reporters not exactly getting along at the end

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Speaker 1: of the week because they tried to revisit and add

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Speaker 1: some more storylines heading into this game against Detroit. Basically

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Speaker 1: got to the matter of fact. Greg of hey, that

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Speaker 1: was last week, okay, asking questions about clock management and

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Speaker 1: things of that nature, No question about it. But I

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Speaker 1: heard you bring up a term with Colin, and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring it here audience, always changing teachable moments

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Speaker 1: for all of us as we look and take from

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Speaker 1: your years at NFL Films and all you've gleaned the

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Speaker 1: idea of check down versus turned down. And Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: something we go back to last year, the interceptionless streak

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Speaker 1: that everybody heralded to me, that was you weren't taking

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Speaker 1: any shots downfield, and you were probably not not taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of what might have been there, thinking the window

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Speaker 1: was either smaller or pressing to make a play. Did

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Speaker 1: we see that on Monday night?

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Speaker 2: All? I think it gets into a point that I've

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Speaker 2: always believed in that you can't measure and therefore there's

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Speaker 2: no metric for it. But it's something that from years

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Speaker 2: and years of tape study and being you know, and

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Speaker 2: learning from you know, really smart guys at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 2: is the concept of what does a quarterback see as

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Speaker 2: viable throws? Okay, and I'm going to make a comparison here.

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Speaker 2: I watched Caleb Williams and then I watched Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: It just happened that I watched them back to back.

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Speaker 2: It was just one of those things this week. And

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix sees throws that are sort of tighter window

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Speaker 2: throws as viable throws. He turns the ball loose. So,

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Speaker 2: in other words, if you were sitting with me watching tape,

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Speaker 2: Mike and I stopped the tape just before Michael Pennix

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Speaker 2: would to start his delivery, and I'd say who's he

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Speaker 2: throwing to? You'd probably say, gee, I'm not really sure,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't really look like anybody's really that opens. Sure, okay,

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Speaker 2: but he sees it as a viable throw because there's

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Speaker 2: an innate feel for the anticipation and timing. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: is not at that point in his development. He's not

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Speaker 2: at that point where he sees throws as viable throws.

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Speaker 2: We just finished talking about Goff, about the fact that

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Speaker 2: he was such a great anticipation throw in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the field, which is the Ben Jonson offense to

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Speaker 2: a large extent. And I would show you when GoF

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Speaker 2: would start his delivery where receivers were. They didn't even

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Speaker 2: start their breaks yet. Williams is not at that point

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Speaker 2: in his development. Now. Like I said, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to sit here and say that's never going to happen.

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Speaker 2: I would never say that. I don't know what's going

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Speaker 2: to happen, you know, today, next week, six weeks. But

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Speaker 2: that's not where he is right now. So he doesn't

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Speaker 2: see a lot of throws as viable throws just yet.

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Speaker 2: And you know, therefore he just doesn't play with the

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Speaker 2: clarity that's needed right at this moment. Now, can he

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Speaker 2: learn that, I don't know the answer to that none

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Speaker 2: of us really know the answer to that. But there's

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Speaker 2: a couple of other things he needs to to kind

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Speaker 2: of learn too. He's got a strong tendency to climb

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Speaker 2: the pocket for no reason. And you know what happens

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Speaker 2: when you climb the pocket for no reason. You create

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Speaker 2: your own pressure because you're just getting closer to the bodies,

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Speaker 2: and then you end up throwing under pressure when there's

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Speaker 2: no need to throw under pressure. So there's things he's

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Speaker 2: got to work through. And like I said, we're not

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Speaker 2: I'm not here to say, oh this guy, you know,

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Speaker 2: believe me. I go to the gym and there's a

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Speaker 2: big Bears fan there and he always he's already, you know,

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Speaker 2: ready to pack it in. You know how that goes

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Speaker 2: with fans. And he's like, oh my god. You know,

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Speaker 2: so I said, let's let's wait and see. We don't

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Speaker 2: know the answer yet. You know, this is essentially Williams

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Speaker 2: rookie year all over again.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the hard part for folks. I mean, go

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Speaker 1: back to Jared Golf. Look what he came into the

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Speaker 1: league two.

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Speaker 2: That first year, that's right, was the mess correct, because

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Speaker 2: they didn't really have a true offensive coordinator and no

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Speaker 2: knock on Jeff Fisher, who was a great head coach,

653
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Speaker 2: but you know, they didn't really have a great coordinator

654
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Speaker 2: and it just it didn't work out. And then and

655
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Speaker 2: McVeigh came in, and then look what happened.

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Speaker 1: And now you look at Caleb Williams. It's year or

657
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Speaker 1: two and I you look, we try to preach patients,

658
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Speaker 1: but you know, at least I do, I mean, hot

659
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Speaker 1: take nonsense price very well well, but I'm a pragmatist

660
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Speaker 1: in this, knowing that this is a position that is

661
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Speaker 1: the most important and hardest that we've gotten sports except

662
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Speaker 1: maybe a goalie in a Stanley Cup Vinyal situation. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know where the pads either way,

664
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Speaker 1: but just trying to go through the perspective of it,

665
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Speaker 1: the Lorning curve is just so huge.

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Speaker 2: And fans are not patient, I mean, you know, no,

667
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Speaker 2: and that's the thing I mean, I imagine Clemson fans

668
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Speaker 2: right now aren't particularly patient either.

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Speaker 1: But dab Dabbo all sorts of quotes from Dabbo coming

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Speaker 1: back on him in when they lose games like that.

671
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Speaker 1: As I know, you know, if you'd sign that guy

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Speaker 1: in the portal instead of saying, hey, we don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, right, but but yeah, so well, I mean it's look,

674
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Speaker 2: last week was one game. You know. It's funny. I

675
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Speaker 2: was going back and forth this week with Kurt Warner,

676
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Speaker 2: you know, and obviously he knows a little bit about quarterbacking,

677
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Speaker 2: and he didn't quite see it the same way I did.

678
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Speaker 2: He thought he played better than I thought. And that's okay.

679
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Speaker 2: I love those conversations because I want to learn too.

680
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing something, but that's what I saw, and

681
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: and you know, it's going to take some time. It's

682
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: a difficult offense in the sense too that it's very wordy.

683
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot of checks, there's a lot of alerts,

684
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: multiple plays are often called in the huddle, there are shifts,

685
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Speaker 2: there's motions. You got to get to the line of

686
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Speaker 2: scrimmage quickly. You know, you can't get to the line

687
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: of scrimmage with four seconds left on the play clock.

688
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: There's so much that Williams has to assimilate. And this

689
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: is some of this is even before the ball snap mic,

690
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Speaker 2: So it's this is going to take a little time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The question for me is also do they have

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Speaker 1: that running back situation settling?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Got his dire as what we're kind of looking at

695
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Speaker 1: in Washington in a couple places where there's a lot

696
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Speaker 1: of work to do, but with the running backs on

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Speaker 1: that roster, wondering if they're going to get the balance

698
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Speaker 1: that they need necessarily help bring them along.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point because think of Detroit. You know,

700
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Speaker 2: it's easy to look at GoF who obviously last year

701
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Speaker 2: and under Ben Johnson's been very, very good. But you

702
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Speaker 2: know they've got big time right they have two big

703
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Speaker 2: time backs. I mean Montgomery, if he didn't miss three games,

704
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Speaker 2: probably would have gained a thousand yards last year and

705
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Speaker 2: they would have had two one thousand yard rushers. So

706
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Speaker 2: you know that that's overlooked because everybody thinks Ben Johnson passing.

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Speaker 2: But the run game is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Well a lot of it predicated on run and play actions.

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Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit last week. You know,

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Speaker 1: heading into that week one game one, you're trying to

711
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Speaker 1: solve Brian Flores with a new offense. Yeah, but two

712
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Speaker 1: trying to get him to operate Caleb under center to

713
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Speaker 1: integrate the play action. And if you don't really have

714
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Speaker 1: the threat that you that the run game is viable,

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Speaker 1: I mean that just gets pushed out the window and

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Speaker 1: in the second half where it just just got decimated.

717
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Speaker 2: An under center play action which almost no college quarterback,

718
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Speaker 2: with very very few exceptions, even knows the first thing

719
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Speaker 2: about that's a learned trait. I mean, just think about it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have a lot of time anyway

721
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Speaker 2: when you're a quarterback dropping back, you know it happens fast.

722
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Speaker 2: But imagine turning your back to the defense if you've

723
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: never really done that. I mean, that's a learned trait

724
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Speaker 2: because that that you know, when you snap your head around,

725
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Speaker 2: the defense is not in the same position they were

726
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Speaker 2: before you you turned your head. So it's that takes

727
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Speaker 2: time as well.

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Speaker 1: Well. We quote the great Billy Joel as we put

729
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Speaker 1: a cast in this conversation with it's just a simple

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Speaker 1: matter of trust.

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Speaker 2: There you go all. I thought you were going to

732
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Speaker 2: maybe say that that's a good point in this point

733
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Speaker 2: of view you have right there.

734
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Speaker 1: There we go. We got it. We got it, Greg,

735
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: This is cooking as we get going, at Greg co cell,

736
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Speaker 1: keep the information coming in as you're out there. You

737
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Speaker 1: got questions ideas you want to fire in and for

738
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Speaker 1: us to discuss. Please do at Swallowen Dome at Fox

739
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. We're just getting started in our breakdown. Now

740
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to an old dog new tricks. I'm

741
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: calling him the Brazos. You know, Steve Martin's character and

742
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: only murders in the building. Is it an encore actor?

743
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: Is it a mirage? We'll tell you next here it's

744
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. I don't feel

745
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Speaker 1: seen at all. Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox

746
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday. Mike Harbon, Greg co Cell, Well with you.

747
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: We were actually talking about I haven't watched the Have

748
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: you seen the documentary that they put up for Billy

749
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Joel's career.

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00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: No, I have not seen it yet, and I want

751
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: to because he I've actually saw him in concert probably

752
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: twelve fifteen times, no kidding, Yeah, yeah, he was one

753
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: of my favorites. But no, I've not seen the documentary.

754
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: It's it's that time of year. I'm not going to

755
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: be watching a lot of TV.

756
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: Well, we'll just added to the list. We'll just add out.

757
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: I think we've now got something that we're charged with.

758
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: All the things that I ombliquely referenced because I watched

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00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: them at two in the morning, when I can't sleep

760
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: after a show. We'll get a list together and then

761
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Speaker 1: we'll present it to Greg at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny. The first time I saw him, believe

763
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Speaker 2: it or not, was at the place called the bottom

764
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: Line in New York City. It's a small place. It

765
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: was right before the Stranger album, so he wasn't big yet,

766
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Speaker 2: and I was probably sitting fifteen feet from him, you know,

767
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: playing the piano, and like I said, at that point,

768
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 2: he you know, he hadn't hit it quite big yet.

769
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Speaker 1: Well that's pretty great, that's amazing. Like I saw him

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Speaker 1: last year here with staying down in San Diego. So

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Speaker 1: I'm fortunate that my daughter's blessed me by going and

772
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Speaker 1: seeing the stuff. Dad likesh.

773
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I saw him a couple of years

774
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: ago with Stevie Nicks.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, she's still on the bucket list. I haven't

776
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: gotten it, Brianta. And have you watched this thing yet? No,

777
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: not yet.

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Speaker 4: My mom just told me about it recently and it's

779
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 4: in my queue, so I definitely need to see that.

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Speaker 1: And then led Zeppelin documentary too is on my list right.

781
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: Well, I saw a led Zeppelin concert too.

782
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: See, now I'm all Sad.

783
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Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy five, and man, it's the Square Garden.

784
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Speaker 1: You still have the ticket stuff.

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00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: I do not. I do not, because if you have

786
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Speaker 2: any of.

787
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Speaker 1: Those, there's a burgeoning market and all this that, and.

788
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Speaker 2: Well that Zeppelin's probably my favorite band of all time.

789
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Speaker 2: So I did get a chance to see them live.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That movie that Breanna referenced is

791
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: actually a uh I did see Fantastic One. Yeah, that

792
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: was through the first two albums, so it's it's early Zeppelin.

793
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: So we'll see if we can get the report.

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Speaker 2: My parents didn't like led Zeppelin as much as I did.

795
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Speaker 2: You know, when I was played in the house, you know.

796
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Speaker 1: I was blessed. My dad had the most eclectic record

797
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: collection you could possibly have, so on days when he

798
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: was home, you'd go from Willie Nelson to Jeth Throw

799
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Speaker 1: Tall and Zeppelin back to Warren Zevon or Chris christoffersonthing like,

800
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Speaker 1: it just went all over the place, pulling.

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Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, my parents were older, so they were like

802
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: from the big band era. So you know, Little Miller

803
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: for you, you got that, right, Glenn Miller, you got it.

804
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: So you know, obviously led Zeppelin didn't quite fit into

805
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: their mindset.

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00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: Here, I'm gonna play you something. It's called Black Sabbath,

807
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: right thing. I like them too, classic, no question about it.

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00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: See we're kindred spirits here.

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00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: There you go.

810
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: It's radio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm a classic rocker from wayback.

812
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Speaker 1: That's it. I've been blessed. We've seen a lot of

813
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: the heavyweights, my daughters and I and seeing if we

814
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: can't find a few more before they get off the road.

815
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Now an older rocker out on the football field. There

816
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: you go. I'm a broadcast professional.

817
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Good segue, good segue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give myself the big pat on the

819
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Speaker 1: back with my reconstructed shoulder. Let's hear a play from

820
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Speaker 1: one of weak one's heroes.

821
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 4: Rogers under center, play action pass rolling to his right,

822
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: fires off the back foot top.

823
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: Of Austin touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers. The play action pass, he

824
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,959
Speaker 1: gets Austin in the right portion of the end zone

825
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: for the touchdown pass. Fourth of the day for Aaron Rodgers,

826
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: jacked up Steelers network on the call, you get Austin

827
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: who now becomes that next up in the receiving core.

828
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Speaker 1: But what did you see from Aaron Rodgers big point

829
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Speaker 1: production against what was supposed to be an impenetrable Jets defense.

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00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the Jets hats some issues, and some were

831
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Speaker 2: caused by what the Steelers did with their play concepts,

832
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: and some were just assignment miscues. But you know, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: We played that Austin eighteen yard touchdown early in the

834
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Speaker 2: fourth That was the exact same play as the Scoronic

835
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Speaker 2: twenty two yard touchdown, which I think think happened late

836
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: first quarter, maybe.

837
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Pretty early, And one of the few times you get

838
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: to talk about a Northwestern wide receiver in the NFL,

839
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Speaker 1: Greg co Sel.

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00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't he play Notre Dame too?

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00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Is that he did? Yeah, but I'm claiming him. It's

842
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: like Ken Grive there. He as a White Sox Hall

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00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: of Famer. You'll never chell my mind.

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Speaker 2: See, there's a great example though, of coaching and what

845
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 2: teams do. I mean, they were in the exact same

846
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: play because of the reaction. The defense was in a

847
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: different defense and the reaction one was zone the Scornic.

848
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: The Jets were in zone covered three, the Austin. They

849
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 2: were in man to man coverage and Austin was being

850
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: covered by Brandon Stevens, whose eyes went right in the backfield,

851
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: and it was just a really well designed play. But

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00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: Rogers was thrown to a lot of open receivers in

853
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: that game, so you know, you can't take anything away

854
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: from his performance, but there were a lot of open

855
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: receivers well.

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00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: And look, the one thing we know in the NFL

857
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: is the first era of separation is actually making the

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00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: winning throws when they're available to you with question you

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Speaker 1: got to make, which is not an easy thing, as

860
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Speaker 1: much as we might dismiss it at times. All Right,

861
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Speaker 1: as we continue plenty of games on the slate, performances

862
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: to review, we'll head to a big one coming up next.

863
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes Jalen Hurts getting it together a lot coming

864
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 1: off a week one. We talked about it a week

865
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Speaker 1: ago coming out of that Brazil game. But we'll revisit

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Speaker 1: what the Chiefs have looking ahead with our right Heart

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Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome in another hour as we get you

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Speaker 1: in the countdown to the fun and exciting kickoffs of

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Speaker 1: week two your National Football League season. Just inside of

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Speaker 1: four hours, plenty of time to walk the dog, get

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Speaker 1: to the gym, hit the snooze button after we're you know,

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Speaker 1: long down, and give yourself a little bit of extra juice.

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Speaker 1: Get through what is a long couch sitting position, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. Mike Harman, Greg Cosel with you here

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Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday. As we're readying for this action, we're

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Speaker 1: starting to see all the whip arounds to the stadium.

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that I still get juice,

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Speaker 1: you know, Week two, week three, Like it's still like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get a bunch of presents. Greg. It's become

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Speaker 1: old hat, right. We wait for it all off season.

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Speaker 1: I need football, I need football football, And we still have,

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Speaker 1: you know, a full run of games to go to

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Speaker 1: seventy two minus R seventeen, so two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: five more glorious packages done.

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Speaker 2: Wrap, no, and today there are some really good ones

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Speaker 2: we haven't even gotten to yet. You got a Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl rematch which should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the big question. Jumping off right, forty to

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Speaker 1: twenty two is the final there. We watched the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: in Week one get absolutely obliterated in many aspects of

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Speaker 1: that game by Justin Herbert and the Chargers offense in Brazil,

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Speaker 1: and many questions now standing for these Chiefs. They'll be

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Speaker 1: without Xavier Worthy on the offensive side, so more Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 1: most of his yardage coming on that one Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Depending on your perspective, Greg, it's either the improvisational skills

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00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: and wizardry of Patrick Mahomes or it was a complete

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Speaker 1: defensive breakdown. It's depending on who I'm trying to sell

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Speaker 1: that play to.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's what makes Mahomes special. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he can make those kinds of plays. I mean, he

906
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Speaker 2: was running at full speed to the right. That was

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Speaker 2: a ridiculous throw, and he can make those throws. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's just one of those special Mahomes plays. But you know,

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Speaker 2: their offense has been kind of odd the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, and I've noticed this and noticed this, and

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Speaker 2: because they win and Becomes Mahomes is so special and

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Speaker 2: his running ability, by the way, is often overlooked. He's

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Speaker 2: a terrific scrambler. But their offense it's everything is kind

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Speaker 2: of quick rhythm, short timing throws. There's almost no intermediate

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Speaker 2: passing game. You know, Mahomes will take a few shots

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Speaker 2: here and there down the field, deeper shots, but there's

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Speaker 2: no real consistent timing and rhythm to their pass game.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very odd because they win, and don't forget,

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Speaker 2: their defense over the last couple of years has been phenomenal,

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Speaker 2: which was not the case obviously against the Chargers. It

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Speaker 2: was a very uncharacteristic Steve Spagnolo game. I would imagine

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Speaker 2: that will turn around at some point. He's great, and

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Speaker 2: they have good players. But you know, their defense has

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Speaker 2: been in the top five the last two years in

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Speaker 2: terms of points allowed, and the Chiefs have only averaged

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Speaker 2: twenty two points a game the last two years. This

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Speaker 2: offense has not been what it was in prior years

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Speaker 2: to let's say, the first four or five years of

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Speaker 2: Mahomes in the league. And obviously he's special and he

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Speaker 2: can make ridiculously special plays at any time in any game,

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Speaker 2: but the overall construct of their offense, I'm a little confused,

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, Mike. It's just there's no

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Speaker 2: kind of rhythmic feel to it.

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Speaker 1: Sure we go back and remember his scrambling ability limited.

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Speaker 1: Go back to that Super Bowl again, Tampa. I think

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Speaker 1: he had five hundred yards rushing if you counted him

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Speaker 1: going sideline to sideline as of Morston North South. But

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Speaker 1: here he became their most effective runner. And it's a

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Speaker 1: resounding theme. Early, I found the table a lot for

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Speaker 1: Can I find five guys to play his dancing bears together?

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Speaker 1: And can't find a running back that I trust that's

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Speaker 1: going to get us positive yardage and give us the

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Speaker 1: ability to pull the strings. And I don't know that

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Speaker 1: that guy's on the roster because I look at the

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Speaker 1: Eagles on the other side. Right, they go back into

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Speaker 1: the marketplace. I think in anticipation. Now you had a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys that they were trying to bring on.

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Speaker 1: You got Shipley, you got aj Dillon behind Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 1: But they go into the marketplace, and Howie Roseman says, wait,

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Speaker 1: we could go get that tank Bigsby kid. Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: go get him, because I mean, again, looking around the league,

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Speaker 1: be at Chicago, be it these chiefs, there are a

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Speaker 1: number of teams who are already going do they have

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Speaker 1: the guy they need? In that running back room, whereas

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Speaker 1: the Eagles just said, well we're operating from strength. Let's

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Speaker 1: just go in and take a guy off the board.

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Speaker 2: There's so much to discuss about the Eagles, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just very quickly what they did tactically in the Super Bowl. Now, again,

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Speaker 2: when you play the same team so quickly, are you

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Speaker 2: going to do exactly the same thing? No, of course not.

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Speaker 2: And Vic fanjo this is not his first rodeo either,

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Speaker 2: so he's not going to do exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And the players are different on his defense because last

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Speaker 2: year they obviously had Darius Sligy opposite Quinnyon Mitchell, the rookie.

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Speaker 2: But what they chose to do last year was they

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Speaker 2: played pure man on the outside and squeezed everything in

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Speaker 2: the middle because based on their film study, they felt

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Speaker 2: that the past game of the Chiefs, it was a

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Speaker 2: between the numbers pass game. That's where Patrick Mahomes worked

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Speaker 2: that he did not very often throw the ball outside

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Speaker 2: the numbers unless he was just taking a vertical shot.

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Speaker 2: So they basically did that in different ways throughout the game.

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Speaker 2: They played man on the outside, they let Mitchell and

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Speaker 2: Sleigh match up man to man, and they squeezed everything

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Speaker 2: in the middle in multiple boys, and of course they

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Speaker 2: rushed four against an old line that couldn't handle it.

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Speaker 2: So again, are they going to do exactly the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Not likely. But offensively, the Eagles are fascinating. They're not

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Speaker 2: really a passing team, Mike. You know, if you go

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Speaker 2: back to last year and Jalen Hurt started eighteen games,

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Speaker 2: Let's leave out the game he got hurt early against

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Speaker 2: the Commanders. So now he started nineteen games and in

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Speaker 2: nine of those games he's thrown for less than two

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Speaker 2: hundred yards. Now, if you were to say that in

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Speaker 2: today's ear of football, you'd probably say, well, that team's

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Speaker 2: not going to win a lot of games in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: But the way they play is really interesting. Hurts within

988
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Speaker 2: the context of what they ask him to do, and

989
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: he's got some limitations as a passer, but what they

990
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Speaker 2: ask him to do within the context of having Barkley

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Speaker 2: and his impact on the run game, which is huge

992
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: both by design and scrambling, he plays so intelligently within

993
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Speaker 2: that context. He doesn't turn the ball over. He understands

994
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Speaker 2: game situations. I mean, he's a really smart player within

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Speaker 2: what they are and what they asked him to do.

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Speaker 1: Sixty two rushing yards two touchdowns in their Week one win.

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00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: A lot of those were he was able to skip

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Speaker 1: to the sideline or into the end zone without being

999
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Speaker 1: touched against that Dallas squad, No Dallas Goddard in this one.

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Speaker 1: He's yeah missing this. So that's a big component off

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Speaker 1: the board.

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Speaker 2: It is. It is because he's a really good run

1003
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Speaker 2: blocker and they don't really have another tight end who

1004
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: could run block very well at this point in time

1005
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: that we know about. So we'll see how that impacts

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Speaker 2: how they choose to run the football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's curiosity right as we watch the evolution of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, just you know, fun with numbers. Last

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Speaker 1: year there were only five quarterbacks that exceeded thirty passing touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which bit down and you look at Burrow Mayfield, Lamar

1011
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: Goff and Sam Darnold. There's your men.

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Speaker 2: And actually the run game sort of came back last year.

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Speaker 2: There were six running backs with over three hundred carries

1014
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Speaker 2: and a couple of them didn't even play the final

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Speaker 2: week of the season, So you know, that was something

1016
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Speaker 2: that hadn't happened in a long time. I don't know,

1017
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Speaker 2: the exact year when it had previously happened. But you

1018
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Speaker 2: know what, and you know, one year is a snapshot

1019
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: more than a trend. So I don't want to sit

1020
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 2: here and say the whole game is changed. Oh now

1021
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: everybody's going to run the ball. But it was just

1022
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Speaker 2: pretty interesting that six backs had over three hundred carries

1023
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Some of that curiosity that we go back to offensive

1025
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Speaker 1: lines that look like what the Cowboys put out all

1026
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: those years ago, a lot of beef ahead of Emmett's

1027
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Speaker 1: steth because you're going up against leaner, meaner pass rushers

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00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: and linebackers that are trying to chase and coverage like

1029
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: we highlighted in our one with the Bobby Wagner mismatch

1030
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Speaker 1: that we got.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, the thing too is, as I'm

1032
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: sure you know you know and can appreciate and people

1033
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: listening can appreciate, you know, the way that the collective

1034
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: bargaining agreement is with less practice time. One unit that

1035
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: that really impacts is the old line because that's such

1036
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: a cohesion unit, both by the way in the game,

1037
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Speaker 2: which people don't think about, but certainly in past protection.

1038
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Speaker 2: And it's just it's really difficult those guys have to

1039
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: work together. I mean, I've been fortunate. There's a great

1040
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Speaker 2: event run by a duke Manny Weather. I don't know

1041
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Speaker 2: if you know duke at all. Lane Johnson's involved. Jeff Schwartz,

1042
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Speaker 2: Jeff's phenomenal.

1043
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Speaker 1: Jeff will follow us a little later on this morning.

1044
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff's great, you know, And I go to this

1045
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 2: event in Dallas. They've been you know, I've been fortunate

1046
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: to be invited, and you know, they bring Hall of

1047
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Fame type guys like Steve Hutchinson, Kevin Mawai, you know,

1048
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: Joe Thomas was there this year. All these guys talk

1049
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: about is the cohesion that's demanded, you know, working together,

1050
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 2: and when you don't have enough practice time, boy, that's

1051
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Speaker 2: a difficult deal.

1052
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always been the question for me, you know,

1053
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Speaker 1: as a talk to the ex players that traverse the

1054
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Speaker 1: halls here at Fox Sports Radio or at our travels.

1055
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Speaker 1: Greg is the fight and this is where you get

1056
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Speaker 1: into the union stuff. We don't want to go too

1057
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Speaker 1: deep in the week.

1058
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Speaker 2: No, no, and yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean from my perspective, is like getting that extra

1060
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Speaker 1: practice day off is like I get it, it's a

1061
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Speaker 1: day off, but it's also a day you're not necessarily

1062
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Speaker 1: working at your craft and perhaps extending your stay in

1063
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Speaker 1: the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, I wasn't making a judgment statement.

1065
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Speaker 1: Of fact, Absolutely no, But I mean, I look, I'll

1066
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Speaker 1: be the judge guy on this because I see it

1067
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Speaker 1: when we watch when we watch games live on an

1068
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Speaker 1: NFL Sunday of where there's those disconnects, and certainly week

1069
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Speaker 1: one and two, you know, we take it with a

1070
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Speaker 1: grain of salt because we assume that over time, since

1071
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Speaker 1: we have shorter preseasons and those shorter reps, that you know,

1072
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be some growing pains, which is why sometimes

1073
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Speaker 1: I lament some of these marquee matchups coming in week

1074
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Speaker 1: one or week two. It's like, can I see these

1075
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Speaker 1: teams formed a little bit before we put the two

1076
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Speaker 1: heavyweights in the ring together? But that's okay. We get

1077
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Speaker 1: plenty of that, and certainly that Chiefs and Eagles matchups

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Speaker 2: And that's why week one you can't make these bold,

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Speaker 1: down to Miami where there are so many questions. Maybe

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Speaker 1: right after we get off the air, Greg as we

1151
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: get ready for the rest of these games. I have

1152
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, one of my daughter's teammates

1153
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: soccer squad. He still wears the brand. You know. I've

1154
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: got my cutler, Suresey, And I take the incoming from

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00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: folks on that he was wearing a Dolphins hat yesterday,

1156
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: and I saw a couple of folks go up and

1157
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: just start patting him on the shoulder. They're there, They're there,

1158
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: absolutely bludgeoned by the Colts in Week one, thirty three

1159
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: to eight, Ny Danny Dives getting Donny. He had a

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Speaker 1: perfect day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, there's a great, great example of coaching again

1162
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 2: because you know Jones. Look, people probably forget because it

1163
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 2: seems like a long time ago. His first his rookie season,

1164
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: he was very, very good, and people thought he'd be

1165
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: a quality NFL quarterback in some ways, and he's you

1166
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: know again, I'm not gonna sit here and say he's

1167
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: the same player because he hasn't had success. But stylistically

1168
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: he's like Goff in the sense that he's a ball

1169
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: distributor and executor, so he needs the pass game to

1170
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: present him with define reads and throws so he can

1171
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 2: play with timing and rhythm. And Shane Steichen did such

1172
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: a good job with that, and he was very aggressive

1173
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: with his first down play calls, but really well designed concepts,

1174
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: and first down is always the best down to throw.

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Speaker 2: But even versus blitz Jones was really really good. So

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Speaker 2: it was just look again, I'm not gonna sit here

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Speaker 2: and say he's playing a really tough defense today. I

1178
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: know they are at home, They're gonna play Denver and

1179
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: Denver that'll be indoors on a fast track, and Denver

1180
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: is a really fast defense. So could he have a

1181
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: bad game today, Absolutely he could, But in this particular

1182
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 2: game he looked very comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Well, I go back to twenty twenty two, Greg, you know,

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00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: before he got the contracts fifteen and five touchdown to

1185
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: interception ratcha, Yeah, completed sixty seven percent of his passes. Unfortunately,

1186
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: he's a guy that will The legs are a great

1187
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: attribute and an extra skill set that he has, but

1188
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: it puts him in harm's way. So we've seen some

1189
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: injury issues go back to neck injury and everything else.

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Speaker 1: So it's one of those guys like, is he a

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00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: guy that I want winging the ball around thirty five

1192
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: times a game? No, But combine that with Jonathan Taylor

1193
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: and I can pull the strings where you've got four

1194
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: guys for stiking to deploy. I think it can work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've got a good old line as you

1196
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: mentioned Taylor, he's a top five runner in the league.

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00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 2: They've got weapons. I mean, they've got four solid wide

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 2: receivers now that they have Tyler Warren. I mean, they've

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Speaker 2: got they can play with three tight ends, which they

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Speaker 2: did on occasion last Sunday. So we'll see if he

1201
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: can be protected again. No one's sitting here saying that

1202
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: makes him a top five quarterback in the league. That's

1203
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: not the point. But the point is he can execute

1204
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: your offense and that's what coaches want. They want to

1205
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: trust the quarterback. You know, there's not one hundred josh Allens,

1206
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's mahomes Boroughs, just not one hundred of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Coaches want a quarterback that can execute the offense as

1208
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: game plan that they can trust and can Jones become

1209
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: that guy? Only time will tell, but that's what happened

1210
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: last week. A really good mix of the coach and

1211
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Speaker 2: the quarterback being able to work together.

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Speaker 1: Fun to watch it play out, especially if maybe you've

1213
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: got a little bit of Daniel Jones stock. In other words,

1214
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Speaker 1: you stand fo him years ago, as maybe I did

1215
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: during those tenure there or Giants, So you know when

1216
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: guys have a little bit of a reclamation there, Grey,

1217
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I wasn't completely off, That's all

1218
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: it is. I don't want to look like an idiot,

1219
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: So don't make me look like an idiot. On the

1220
00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: other side, everything going wrong for the Miami Dolphins, as

1221
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I alluded to, one hundred and fourteen passing yards for

1222
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: two a tongue of ailoa. You've got the disconnect Tyreek

1223
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Hill on the off season, all of the talk and

1224
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: you think it's to some degree, Hey, we get between

1225
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: the white lines. Some of that's going to remedy itself.

1226
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: That was just a listless effort from week one. What'd

1227
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: you see from Twuan tape?

1228
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that they can only play one

1229
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: way because two is this very specific kind of quarterback.

1230
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: He's really really good and is truly at his best

1231
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 2: when it's quick rhythm. He can hit his back foot

1232
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: and deliver the football because he has a very kind

1233
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: of strong innate feel for timing and rhythm. He's quick

1234
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 2: on his drop. He needs to hit the back foot

1235
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: and get rid of the football, and they need a

1236
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: run game, and that didn't happen last week. So when

1237
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: they can't play like that, to his limitations come out.

1238
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 2: So the one thing about this league, Mike, is it's

1239
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: hard to be able to be a good team, you know,

1240
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 2: a team that's really competing when you can only play

1241
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 2: one way. And they really only can play one way.

1242
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: So look, they signed to it. He's the guy. But

1243
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: if that's the case, you really need your old line

1244
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 2: to be good, and you need a run game to

1245
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: be more than just a compliment. You needed to really

1246
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: be a major factor in your offense. So we'll see

1247
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 2: what happens now that they, you know, are coming off

1248
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a really bad opener where everybody is

1249
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: pretty much saying they stink. But we'll see what happens today.

1250
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: But you know, that's the issue they face. They can

1251
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: really only play that one way on offense.

1252
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, down twenty to nother and at halftime takes everything

1253
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: off the board as far as eighth and just seven

1254
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: carries for him was effective in the past. Game got

1255
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: you a touchdown to save your fantasy day if you

1256
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: went down that highway. He's one of those guys that

1257
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how long it is before we throw up

1258
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: the flare into the sky and he's on another roster.

1259
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: Who you're talking about, h Chan, Yeah, Well, the thing is,

1260
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: I mean, who's who is quote unquote their feature back

1261
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: got you? Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of what

1262
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: they need. They need a Bellweather back because that's where

1263
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 2: the offense has to start and it has to work

1264
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: off that.

1265
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: They're wishing and hoping that that guy can be Ali

1266
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: Gordon the second.

1267
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: You know, a couple of years ago with Oklahoma State,

1268
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: you know, it looked like he might be that guy

1269
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: going forward. So we'll see. He may end up being

1270
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: the guy that gets meaningful carries.

1271
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: And if nothing else, gives a little bit of life

1272
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: into what looks like a very long march from Mike

1273
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: McDaniel in this season. After Week one, on the other

1274
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: side of that game, Greg, We've got the Patriots a

1275
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: difficult week one for them, a lot of expectations. They

1276
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: make a trade. They send Polk to the Saints for

1277
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks, a guy they were high on.

1278
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: He's uninjured reserve, but Saints stocking up for future options

1279
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: for the Patriots and for Drake May and for Mike

1280
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: Vrabel in that debut, a very difficult sled.

1281
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't think May was poor in that game.

1282
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: You know, he really took a look at at Will

1283
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: Campbell quite a bit in that game, you know, because

1284
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: I spoke to a number of O line coaches who

1285
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: believed that he was a guard, not a tackle who

1286
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: strongly believe in arm length. One O line coach who's

1287
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Speaker 2: been in the league for years and years, super highly respected,

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Speaker 2: he said it in a way that I thought was

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Speaker 2: fascinating when he said it. He said he's a big

1290
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Speaker 2: believer in arm length for tackles for this reason. He said,

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Speaker 2: sixty percent of your pass pro snaps, everything goes as

1292
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 2: you would like. You know, your technique's good, you block them,

1293
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: everything looks good. Forty percent you have to be reactive,

1294
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, somehow your technique gets lost because the guy

1295
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: whatever the rusher does and he said that's where arm

1296
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 2: length really becomes a factor when you when you have

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Speaker 2: to become more reactive than proactive in your pass protection

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Speaker 2: and you're one on one pass protection. And I thought

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Speaker 2: that was a really interesting way to say it. And

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Speaker 2: you saw that a couple of times with Will Campbell. Again,

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01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: not a knock on his whole career. He's going to

1302
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 2: be there left tackle, so we'll see how it continues.

1303
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: But he had you know, you saw that on the tape.

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01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking at the graphic that kept hitting my timeline.

1305
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: Yesterday was a look at the Patriots twenty twenty four

1306
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: draft class. So you got Drake May round one, trade

1307
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: round two, Jalen Polk now trade round three, Caden Wallace,

1308
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, backup, Leyden Robinson, injured reserve, a guard, Javon

1309
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 1: Baker was a fourth round wide receiver. He got cut. Yeah,

1310
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: Marcellus Dial cornerback is on injured reserve. Joe Milton got

1311
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: traded to the Cowboys, and Jaheim Bell tight end got cut.

1312
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: Got cut. So I guess that wasn't a very good draft. Well,

1313
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: you know that's because a whole new coaching staff came

1314
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: in too, so it's not surprising. But still, you know,

1315
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: that's an entire draft class other than May, who will

1316
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: be a good player. That's it. You know, it's the

1317
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Speaker 2: first round pick and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a difficult slate to look at one year

1319
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: later because the whole thing at the end of the

1320
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: Belichick era was well, they couldn't pick the groceries. So

1321
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: now it's a new regime doing it. And then one

1322
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: year hence you got Drake May is the last man stand.

1323
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: A couple of guys on injured reserve, but a number

1324
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,959
Speaker 1: of them already shuffled off into the NFL wasteland as

1325
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: it were. He's great cosal I had great coselle where

1326
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: you find him forty six years NFL films. The NFL

1327
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: Matchup Show appears with Colin every Thursday, breaking down some

1328
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: of the big plays and big breakdowns of the quarterback play.

1329
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: Blessed to be able to do it with him two

1330
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: hours a week here on Fox Sports Radio. So get

1331
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: it in your calendar, get that alarm set for Sunday's

1332
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: hens as we get truly into this NFL season. But

1333
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: now we're going to take a trip over to the

1334
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: news desk, Greg, We're gonna find out from Isaac Low

1335
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: and Brown some early injury notes or what other chaos

1336
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: we may have in the NFL world.

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Speaker 5: We've got both injury and chaos in the NFL right

1338
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 5: on the DoD Mike, good morning to you and Greg.

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01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 5: We start with the best finisher of the night in

1340
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 5: college football on Saturday is number sixteen Texas A and

1341
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 5: M what an eighth RC Notre Dame four forty one

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 5: to forty Marcel Reid the game winning touchdown passed to

1343
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 5: Nate Borkicher on a fourth and goal from the eleven

1344
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 5: yard line with thirteen seconds to play. Number three LSU

1345
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 5: intercepted five passes at a twenty to ten victory over Florida.

1346
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: Vanderbilt won an eleventh ranks South Carolina thirty one to seven,

1347
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 5: their first win over South Carolina since two thousand and eight,

1348
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 5: breaking a sixteen game head to head losing streak. Number

1349
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 5: seventeen Ole miss over Arkansas forty one to twenty five.

1350
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 5: Baseball Saturday Night, sho Hey o'tani is forty ninth home

1351
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 5: run in the Dodgers thirteen to seven victory at San

1352
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 5: Francisco Mariners over the Angels.

1353
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: Five to three.

1354
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: Seattle on an eight game winning streak tyes Houston for

1355
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 5: first place in the American League West. In boxing, on

1356
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 5: Saturday night, Terrence Crawford won a unanimous decision over Canelo

1357
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 5: Alvarez to become the undisputed super middleweight champion. Finally, NFL

1358
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 5: Media reports that on the night before the Las Vegas

1359
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 5: Raiders Week one victory over the Patriots at New England,

1360
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 5: their seventy three years old head coach Pete Carroll fired

1361
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 5: up his players by kicking through a whiteboard during a

1362
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 5: team meeting. The seventy three year old destroying the white bird.

1363
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 5: The whiteboard caused joyous pandemonium amongst the Raider players. Sadly,

1364
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 5: of course, the obliterated white board will indeed miss the

1365
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 5: rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: Mike and Greg backs here at Isaac Lowing Kron where

1367
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: you find him. Greg, we were talking a little bit

1368
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: of classic rock. Was he influenced by the karate moves

1369
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: of Elvis Presley during his run in Vegas?

1370
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 2: You know what, Elvis Presley. I don't want to say

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01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: this before my time, but for some reason I never

1372
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: quite got into him.

1373
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: Wow, that's see. Now we've got some more talking. Yeah,

1374
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: we got a whole season to do this. I'll evangelize

1375
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: and send you a bunch of the random tapes that

1376
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: I've picked up through the years. I actually had an

1377
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: aunt who I was known to at family parties because

1378
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: I'd get I just start singing and eventually, you know,

1379
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: so at one point my aunt actually made me a

1380
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: be dazzled cape.

1381
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: Well, we hope you never get bored during our conversations singing.

1382
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, I mean it might be for

1383
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 1: a little bit of flavor and color and just show

1384
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: up the chops. I mean, you never know who's listening

1385
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: to Greg. We can always have secondary deals. I mean

1386
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 1: I could use a residency in Las Vegas.

1387
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh well, there you go. You're gonna be at the Sphere.

1388
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: Wow, that would be something. I got to figure out

1389
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: what my hook would because they've been showing they're getting

1390
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: one hundred bucks a ticket for the Wizard of Oz there.

1391
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: You know, I guess the Eagles have been playing there

1392
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: for it seems like the last hundred years.

1393
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been them Dead in Company, John Mayer, that

1394
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, the residencies, but the Backstreet Boys

1395
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: have been there, and I know the Eagles just added

1396
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of new dates from twenty twenty six.

1397
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen the Eagles numerous times myself, but not

1398
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: at the sphere.

1399
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: See, there you go, and maybe that's something we just

1400
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: have to do. Get you out West Coast and we'll

1401
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: go take it in.

1402
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: The last time I was there was the Super Bowl.

1403
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, it's I haven't gone. I used

1404
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: to go regularly for conferences in a former work life.

1405
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: Now occasionally we sneak in for big events. My brothers

1406
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: and I. We took in WrestleMania. Greg. I'm still a

1407
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: little kid at heart.

1408
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: You know, it's a little closer for you than me.

1409
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 2: For me, it's not in Las Vegas, is not around

1410
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: the corner.

1411
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: That's okay. We'll get your window seat, give you a

1412
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a mask and you'll be awaken and

1413
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: ready to go.

1414
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: There you go. What do you mean a window seat?

1415
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: How about first class?

1416
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: Okay? If that's what I got, I mean that's still windows.

1417
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: I noticed the pregnant I noticed the pregnant park.

1418
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: How much how much have I get paid for that?

1419
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: As I gotta do the math, I've never done that.

1420
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: I had people talking about that yesterday and they, I

1421
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: guess had looked it up and just kind of went,

1422
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: it costs me what? So that was my immediate reaction,

1423
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: was there there's stunned face. I'm like, I've never actually

1424
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: looked at first class seats. Maybe that'll be an education.

1425
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: I'm usually I'm not there either, So I'm with you

1426
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: on that.

1427
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: Well, hey, look, you got to reach for the stars.

1428
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: As my parents always said, if you don't ask, look,

1429
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: you might get a terse. No, but what's the worst

1430
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: that could happen? Someone says no, asked an answered. As

1431
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: we go forward, and let me ask you this one.

1432
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: What are you expecting from Mac Jones leading a mash

1433
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: unit for the forty nine ers today?

1434
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of injuries, but I

1435
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: mean just stylistically, I mean that's the only way I

1436
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 2: can talk about it, because you just don't know, you know,

1437
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:28,679
Speaker 2: we don't know if Jennings will play. I guess Trent

1438
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 2: Williams is a game time decision as well. But stylistically

1439
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: he's similar to Purdy. He doesn't have the same athleticism

1440
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: that Purdy has, but within the context of a Kyle

1441
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 2: Shanahan offense and how they want to work their passing game.

1442
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: He fits that. Now again, you never know, you know,

1443
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: he obviously played last year in kind of a dysfunctional

1444
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 2: situation in Jacksonville toward the end of the season. But

1445
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: that's the kind of quarterback he is. He's another guy

1446
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: that is a distributor. You know, he needs the offense

1447
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 2: to work for him. He's not going to be the offense.

1448
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: You know. Ideally McCaffrey's healthy and stays healthy, and they

1449
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: really are able to crank up a run game that

1450
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure will be the plan, especially if Jennings can't go,

1451
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: because then they're light at receiver as well. Although I

1452
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 2: really do like Rooky Piersol. But yeah, but I think

1453
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 2: he's similar in that regard and how he has to

1454
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: play to be effective.

1455
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be curious with Kittle gone, and we talked

1456
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: about a little bit earlier, not only as a pass catcher,

1457
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: but how active he is in their ground game.

1458
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: Oh, great point. You're right, And.

1459
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: Thirty one touches from Christian McCaffrey is one that I

1460
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: get a little cringey what I think about. I have

1461
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: to expect we see more of Brian Robinson as as

1462
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: we go forward, maybe get McCaffrey out as a receiver

1463
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more to kind of pull the strings there.

1464
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, losing Kittle is it hurts on both fronts.

1465
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: Oh, it really does. He's such a good run blocker

1466
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 2: and so many of their run game concepts, basic concepts

1467
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: that for other teams you don't really think of tight

1468
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 2: ends as doing those kinds of blocks. They asked him

1469
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 2: to do those kinds of blocks in their run game

1470
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: and so they're going to miss that. And that's a major.

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01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: Deal, shameless plug, because he's constantly at WWE events and

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01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: I fully expect him in the ring like Gronkowski was

1473
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: years ago before it's all said and done with.

1474
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: You know, looks the part, looks the part with his hair,

1475
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he looks like one of those guys.

1476
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: The Fabulous Showman, as it were. I'd be sure to

1477
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Search Fox

1478
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,640
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1479
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,040
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1480
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,800
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1481
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,559
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1482
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: don't like, and suggestions always just search Fox Sports Radio

1483
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: on YouTube and subscribe. What's funny is I pulled up

1484
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: the notes and some of the looking at some of

1485
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: the old little clips from Mac Jones, but also just

1486
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 1: the raw stats Greg the fact that he's a sixty

1487
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: six percent completion rate for his career fifty four against forty.

1488
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: So we will put the ball in harm's way. But

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01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: I lean towards old school NFL, where I need a

1490
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: guy that will be willing to take a shot. Now

1491
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: where they all eight shots. No, but I tend to

1492
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: like a little more of that of pressing the action

1493
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to pull off a fifteen play

1494
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: protracted drive because usually there's gonna be a holding penalty,

1495
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: a fall start or something that's gonna beset that drive before.

1496
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, every offensive coach would love that, but

1497
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 2: you know they're they're missing people, you know, so it's hard.

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Speaker 2: You know, again, I don't even know who's going to

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Speaker 2: be up at wide receiver. We know Russell Gage played

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Speaker 2: a ton last week. Obviously, Pierceol's there. You know, they

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Speaker 2: they even without Kittle. I mean, they're they're a base

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Speaker 2: personnel offense because they used check. They probably playing more

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Speaker 2: of what we call twenty one personnel, meaning two backs

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Speaker 2: and one tight end than any team in the league.

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Speaker 2: So they're not going to really deviate from who they are.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're just gonna you know, Kyle Sanahan is

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Speaker 2: a big believer in you know, calling plays that he

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Speaker 2: believes will be at a defense and making it a

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Speaker 2: four quarter game, showing things in the first quarter, seeing

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Speaker 2: how the defense reacts, and then being able to play

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Speaker 2: off that as the game goes along. He's not a

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Speaker 2: guy that just calls a play and she hopes that

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Speaker 2: it works. You know. He's he builds throughout the entire game.

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Speaker 1: Work to a nude tight end tungees right, he had

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Speaker 1: three catches last week. He'll have to be a bigger

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Speaker 1: piece perhaps, but certainly responsibility in that run blocking work

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Speaker 1: for Christian McCaffrey today.

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Speaker 2: No question. But your point's a good one. I think

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Speaker 2: you might see McCaffrey be more involved in the past game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was looking to try to keep him on

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Speaker 1: the field even before the season. Greg would maybe we

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Speaker 1: look to what he was a few years ago where

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Speaker 1: he was over the one hundred reception mark and he

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Speaker 1: started with a bang with nine of them last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. I mean, it's it's cook you gotta

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: as they say, you got to dance with the girl

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: who brung you. You know, they got to play with who

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Speaker 2: they have?

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Speaker 1: Well, last man standing kind of situation as we go.

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Speaker 1: You know, all the movies in theaters are all dystopian

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: universes anyway, So why not let have that over in

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Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers as they get ready to

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Speaker 1: host the Super Bowl later on as we get into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, he's Great co Sell at Great co

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Speaker 1: Cell where you find him in the Twitter verse, find

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Speaker 1: me over at Swollen Dome. Check out the NFL matchup

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Speaker 1: show that Greg does and all the breakdowns he's got

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01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: and of course his weekly visits alongside our colleague Colin Cowhard.

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Speaker 1: A couple more quarterbacks that we want to break down

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Speaker 1: as we get into the games of week two. You

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Speaker 1: know I have to get a little bit of sunshine in.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Trevor Lawrence Joe Burrow will break down that

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Speaker 1: matchup with the highest over under for all of you

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Speaker 1: folks following points. We'll do that next as we continue

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Speaker 1: on Fox Football Sunday. Hey, welcome back in It's Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday, Mike Carvin, Greg CoA Cell

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: with you again. If you missed eddy of today's show,

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Speaker 1: check out the podcast search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

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01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: got your podcast. Check out Greg co Cell at Greg

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Speaker 1: co Cell in the twitter Verse, the NFL Matchup Show

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: and all his content that make us all a little

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 1: bit smarter. And as we're watching these games and trying

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01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,440
Speaker 1: to ascertain what we're really seeing, are we fooling ourselves?

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: I find myself being fooled because of wishing and hoping

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: a little bit. Greg Quite often in this like did

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: I see that right? Give me the all twenty two? Now,

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: let me see I know.

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, that's the way I feel when I watch tape.

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes I wish I had a you know, a batphone.

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01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 2: I could call a coach, you know, any coach in

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01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: the league when I'm watching tape and say, hey, what

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01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: was the thought process here? You know, because there's stuff

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01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: even watching tape if you're not in the meetings, you

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01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: don't really know exactly how they're coaching it or what

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01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 2: they're asking guys to do. So, you know, I wish

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Speaker 2: I could do that, but obviously I can't.

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Speaker 1: That would be the one thing it's also the what's

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Speaker 1: your vocal inflection when you when you ask that question?

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01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: Right right, right right?

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Speaker 1: So what was the call here? You might get a

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01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: response like Brian Kelly or some of the coaches in

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: their comments Yeah, well maybe yeah, but you know what,

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01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: that becomes a note for the next show that you do.

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: I tried to get an answer because I got a

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01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: lot of notes from my friends and people that are

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what this offense is all about.

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01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: Tell me you wouldn't have gotten that. Perhaps that answer, No,

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01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel would have given you something deep and philosophical.

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: I think if you asked him about some of the

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Speaker 1: concepts going out a week one.

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Speaker 2: But well, he's he actually really good. I had a

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01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: chance to speak with him a number of years ago

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01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: when he was still with the Niners, and he is

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Speaker 2: talking about the run game. He is really good.

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Speaker 1: I find him absolutely fascinating. Yeah, like you know, if

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Speaker 1: the betting odds play out and he's he's on the marketplace,

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Speaker 1: that's a guy. Yes, he'll be a coordinator again in

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01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: short order. But I think you would be fascinating as

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01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 1: a member of our larger media process as we go now,

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: because I need to rip the bandage off one more time.

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Speaker 1: Let's rewind a Monday night football in one more great

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01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: play from the other side. McCarthy out of the shotgun,

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Speaker 1: blitz's on and picked up.

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01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 5: McCarthy litsen to Jone's touch.

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Speaker 1: Show time and.

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Speaker 5: The Minnesota Vikings have taken on one point lead.

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Speaker 1: Long time announcer Paul Allen on the call on the

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Speaker 1: Vikings radio network, JJ McCarthy one hundred and forty three

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Speaker 1: and two the scramble to the end zone and they're

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Speaker 1: a big play for Aaron Jones. Things got a little

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01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: more comfortable as the game wore on, and you could

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Speaker 1: see all the clips on the sideline making the round, Greg.

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: But what'd you see from McCarthy. I mean to me,

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01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: it looked a little bit like that guy from Michigan's Like,

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01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,719
Speaker 1: he's not gonna make all the plays, but down distance

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Speaker 1: and time on the clock, he's going to find a play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought his best throw, believe it or not,

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01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: was the seventeen yard er on the first fourth quarter possession.

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01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 2: It was a far half sideline out to Jefferson. He

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01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: got drilled as soon as he released the ball. That

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01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 2: was a big time throw. The play we just heard.

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Speaker 2: That's another great example of where the scheme presented the throw.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they that was a three man route combination

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01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 2: and they got Aaron Jones matched on the linebacker Sewell,

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: who's not a very good past defender to begin with.

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 2: So the design of the play presented the throw, and

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01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 2: you know, he executed it, which of course you have

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Speaker 2: to no knock on McCarthy there at all, but that

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01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: was just beautiful design. They got exactly what they wanted

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01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: from a coverage standpoint, and he executed. But you know

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Speaker 2: the thing is, he didn't. You know, he threw the

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Speaker 2: really bad pick, which I believe it or not, I thought,

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Speaker 2: actually Jefferson, who was throwing too on that pick, I

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01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 2: thought he drifted up field a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was waiting for him to do a

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01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: stop and just step in there, and.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, he kind of drifted. And again they went

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 2: zero cover zero on that play, the Bears did. And

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Speaker 2: so again I don't know if they wanted McCarthy to

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01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: throw the ball where he did. I don't know the

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: answer to that. Normally you work inside versus zero, but again,

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Speaker 2: you just don't know. That's one of those things I

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01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 2: was saying, I don't have to know the answer to that.

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Speaker 2: But but you know, as long as he doesn't turn

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Speaker 2: it over. I think that in the context of, you know,

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Speaker 2: how they want to play, I think he'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the way he played at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if nothing else, I may just now buy you

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01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 1: a replica of the batphone to sit on your desk

1640
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: when you're right. It's like I can call anybody at

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01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: any time, right, right, even if it's all just faith,

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Speaker 1: as long as I.

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01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 2: Don't have to slide down the pole to get to

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01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: the you know, to the batmobile.

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, well we'll make it easier. We'll get you

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01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: a better lift, no question about it. Maybe its own

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: elevator operator. I don't know. Hey. Count Down to Kickoff

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Speaker 1: presented by bet MGM. Coming up in eight minutes here

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Keep it locked in, Bill, Jeff and

1650
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: Brian get you going with the next three hours injury

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 1: notes and different plays, prop bets, et cetera. As we go.

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Speaker 1: One other matchup before we get out of here. Greg

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Speaker 1: forty nine is the over under Jacksonville Cincinnati, both winners

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01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: Week one, decidedly different games. Cincinnati wins a squeaker against

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Trevor Lawrence gets a big help from ATN

1656
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: and a big week one. But what'd you see out

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01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: of those quots?

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01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, one would have to assume Burrow is

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01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 2: going to be a lot different in this game. I

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: don't want to say better, because he played the game

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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: the way it had to be played, which is a

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01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 2: really good thing as well. But you'd have to assume

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 2: that the numbers will be different and better in this

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01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 2: game only I think through twenty three balls last week.

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01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: That's a rarity for him. Very often he throws twenty

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01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,839
Speaker 2: three balls in the first half. So I would imagine

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: that they'll attack that defense, which on the back end

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01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 2: there are some question marks, So we'll see. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I would expect that to be a different game for

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01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals offense against the defense that has some questions,

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: you know at this point the season. To me, they're

1672
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 2: not concerned, they're questions.

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a little bit of that familiarity certainly

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01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 1: with Cleveland as well, and that yeahsh just pass front

1675
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence on the other side. All right, If I

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01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: take the Philly Kansas City game off the board, what's

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01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: the game with the most intrigue for you.

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01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: Maybe Seattle, Pittsburgh in some ways, I would say Atlanta, Minnesota.

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01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about Penis a whole lot, but I

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01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 2: thought Pendix was tremendous last week, and against that Brian

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01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: Flora's defense. I am really curious to see how Flora

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01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: goes about playing against Michael Pennix.

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01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: Well, you talked about him playing with that anticipation and

1684
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: what he can see. Certainly Flores will do his best

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01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 1: to disguise that as we flow. Fantastic two hours, my friend.

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01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games and remember to hydrate.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, my man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Great go Sell. I'm Mike harm and this has been

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Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday