Speaker 1: What's that at the bed spooky? Hey JOOKI I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I know, said.
Speaker 1: Nandez. Hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome to Ghosted
Speaker 1: by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people
Speaker 1: that I like about the paranormal. And I have got
Speaker 1: Michael Henry and Tim Murray on again. They were on
Speaker 1: probably hmm, maybe like a year ago. I think so funny.
Speaker 1: The two of them truly crack me up. This show
Speaker 1: has gotten real gay lately, and I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. Uh and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're to be laughing a whole lot in just a moment.
Speaker 1: But let me read you a story I got first.
Speaker 1: This came to my email from Windstain, who writes, My
Speaker 1: family's cat was the source of a lot of unexplainable
Speaker 1: events in the years before his death. He was mainly
Speaker 1: an indoor cat as it is very rainy in Oregon,
Speaker 1: but he liked to go outside when it was nice,
Speaker 1: and his food bowl was outside on the patio. On
Speaker 1: multiple occasions, he would unexplainably appear inside our neighbor's houses.
Speaker 1: In one instance, we got a confused call from a
Speaker 1: neighbor who found him in their closed off guest room.
Speaker 1: They were already confused how he got in the house
Speaker 1: to begin with, as no doors or windows were open,
Speaker 1: and even more so in the bedroom that was locked off.
Speaker 1: We apologized and chalked it up to weird cat behavior
Speaker 1: or maybe he slinked in somehow, okay continues. Not long
Speaker 1: after that, my sister and I were home alone and
Speaker 1: had just put the cat out with his food for dinner.
Speaker 1: We heard a bang downstairs and very cautiously went down
Speaker 1: to check, only to find the cat sitting with its
Speaker 1: bowl on top of the table inside. Wait, so they
Speaker 1: feeded the cat outside and they had gone on stairs
Speaker 1: and the food bowl is on top of the table.
Speaker 1: That's weird. We were both freaked out as his bowl
Speaker 1: never really moved from its spot outside, and because we
Speaker 1: didn't hear the alarm ding that would go off every
Speaker 1: time the doors opened, and I mean every time. Sneaking
Speaker 1: out was a bitch, like did he teleport inside with
Speaker 1: his food? To round off the cat's weird vibes and
Speaker 1: possible teleporte abilities, One day I was watching him play
Speaker 1: on the porch and he randomly just dropped dead. He
Speaker 1: was not an old cat and wasn't currently suffering from
Speaker 1: any health conditions. He just died on the spot. It
Speaker 1: was on brand enough for him that it was almost
Speaker 1: not even shocking, but definitely a wild way to go
Speaker 1: and very sad for me. Anyway, sometimes my sister and
Speaker 1: I will reflect and still are not really sure how
Speaker 1: he got inside, but maybe he had some connections to
Speaker 1: the other side. Thank you Winston for sending me that.
Speaker 1: That is one sneaky pussy you got there. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: either like would be the most amazing robber or spy
Speaker 1: to be able to just go into the neighbor's house.
Speaker 1: All the doors are locked, there's no way to get in.
Speaker 1: Very strange, but you know, technically, I'm sure people could
Speaker 1: find possibilities to explain it. But even like the how
Speaker 1: does the food bowl get inside? I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with the idea of a teleporting cat.
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: I'm here for it?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: I have heard much stranger things. Let's get into some strangeness.
Speaker 1: Now here's my conversation with return guests Michael Henry and
Speaker 1: Tim Murray, and with this show, please join me in
Speaker 1: welcoming back to the show, Tim Murray and Michael Henry.
Speaker 1: Two men, four first names.
Speaker 3: Whose names do you like the best? Mine or Michaels.
Speaker 1: I mean, Murray's a fun The thought of that as
Speaker 1: a first name is really.
Speaker 2: Cute, but it's whack as a last name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're wad Okay, listen, guys, that's not why I'm by,
Speaker 1: did you hear? I will say Michael is somebody that
Speaker 1: takes his craft very seriously, and by that I mean
Speaker 1: the craft cheese that he is eating. He entered the
Speaker 1: chat today with a what do you call it? An
Speaker 1: American single?
Speaker 2: Well, well that's me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an American single. That's the name of his book,
Speaker 3: American single.
Speaker 2: They're actually called Sergento singles. Oh okay, so okay.
Speaker 1: Well sorry gento and it was cheddar. Oh god, I'm
Speaker 1: I got everything wrong. I'm so sorry I misgendered your cheese.
Speaker 2: Apologize to the cheese.
Speaker 3: You're truly the only person I know who just enters
Speaker 3: a chat with a sting of cheese in your mouth.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: That's confidence.
Speaker 2: What can I say? I've been running around all day.
Speaker 2: I had to get my proteins somewhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I will say that I had you guys
Speaker 1: on this podcast. It's been a while, it's probably been
Speaker 1: close to two years now since you were on, and
Speaker 1: I have heard repeatedly that it was one of the
Speaker 1: funniest episodes. Thank you, yeah, thank you people. People have
Speaker 1: told me many times, and I agree. I think it's
Speaker 1: definitely in the top five funniest episodes.
Speaker 2: I'll take that and have you. But you've only done five.
Speaker 1: Top five funniest episodes that had two gay men at
Speaker 1: a time on it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll take that. I told you A lady
Speaker 3: in Detroit came to my show and after the show
Speaker 3: she was like, I was trying to figure out where
Speaker 3: I know your voice from and it was from Ghosted
Speaker 3: So nice, hi, lady in Detroit.
Speaker 2: Everywhere.
Speaker 1: Ghosts really are everywhere, relatable podcast. Have you guys encountered
Speaker 1: any ghosts since, you know, in the past year and
Speaker 1: a half or so.
Speaker 2: You know, I always feel like I've got one foot
Speaker 2: in the afterlife. I am a heavy sleeper, so when
Speaker 2: the alarm goes off, I'm in between state. And when
Speaker 2: I'm in that in between state, sometimes I'm hearing things
Speaker 2: and seeing things, and I think that it's spirits that
Speaker 2: were with me while I'm sleeping.
Speaker 3: Really, but sometimes when we're on tourists, is just me
Speaker 3: going you suck quick?
Speaker 2: That could be it's a that's a devil speak, Tim.
Speaker 1: Do you have one foot in the spiritual realm? I
Speaker 1: feel like I have two fingers in the spiritual realm
Speaker 1: at all time.
Speaker 2: I have a fist in it.
Speaker 3: You're both discussing. First of all, I have I'm very demure,
Speaker 3: so I know I don't have any anny appendages in
Speaker 3: this spiritual realm, but I I want to They just
Speaker 3: they're not choosing me, raz And I want you to
Speaker 3: help me forgo out what that is, because I've lived
Speaker 3: in some places that like really should be ever so
Speaker 3: haunted and they're just not like you know how you
Speaker 3: can like feel when the space has that energy. Like
Speaker 3: I lived in a basement apartment in New York City
Speaker 3: that was so disgusting and it just had stale energy.
Speaker 3: It just didn't have the energy of like there were
Speaker 3: ghosts in here.
Speaker 2: Mmmm.
Speaker 1: Well, we talk about her all the time on this
Speaker 1: but here we go this listeners this show, they're like, here,
Speaker 1: why is she always had to bring this up. People
Speaker 1: that come on my podcast, many of them spend long
Speaker 1: lengths of time in New York City, and they so
Speaker 1: rarely tell me ghost stories from New York City. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Why New York ghosts are businy, but they they're there.
Speaker 1: I know they're there.
Speaker 3: They're booking, they're auditioning, they're going to open calls.
Speaker 2: Oh, here's the thing. If you died in New York,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be in the afterlife like you were in
Speaker 2: the New York life. You're busy, you're hustling. You don't
Speaker 2: have time to talk to this loser. This person. They
Speaker 2: got places to be. They're at a group lont somewhere.
Speaker 2: They're gonna waste time with some loser.
Speaker 1: So you think my guests are losers.
Speaker 2: They must be if they're not having haunts. Oh dare
Speaker 2: you sorry?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: But Tim, weren't You were just in New York for
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 3: Nothing Okay, the one fun thing. It didn't exactly happen
Speaker 3: to me, but I took my fiance. Thank you so much. Everyone,
Speaker 3: Please send your clause. Thank you, thank you so much. Yes,
Speaker 3: I'm getting married to an escape room, I said him.
Speaker 3: And our other friends, you.
Speaker 2: Can escape this marriage.
Speaker 3: You're being such a rude bitch for me today and
Speaker 3: every day, but especially.
Speaker 1: To Wait, what is your fiance's name.
Speaker 3: You're not going to like this. It's Michael as.
Speaker 1: Well, a man, yeah, yeah, but you're a man.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So there's since twenty fifteen in Massachusetts, they passed
Speaker 3: this law that people at the same sex can actually
Speaker 3: get married now, and so that's the only reason we're
Speaker 3: doing I know it's gross, but we just thought maybe
Speaker 3: because it's legal, that we should give it a try.
Speaker 2: You thought you could get Brandy?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys for listening to this episode.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get some Christians on this show.
Speaker 3: Ros is throwing up into the microphone.
Speaker 2: You should get a Christian on this show.
Speaker 3: I'm a Christian. I'm a Christian.
Speaker 2: I was born and raised like a pastor.
Speaker 1: I should get a pasture on here.
Speaker 2: You should get a pastor. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, So, Tim, you you took your male fiance to
Speaker 1: an escape room.
Speaker 3: Yes, to an escape room, which getting married is legal
Speaker 3: by going to an escape room together. Was like, it
Speaker 3: shouldn't be legal because we do fight every time we're
Speaker 3: in there, but we we go to to do it,
Speaker 3: and my fiance has been in Aladdin on Broadway on
Speaker 3: and off for years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, who does he play.
Speaker 3: He's just understudy, So he understudies like eight thousand people
Speaker 3: at Iago and one of the boys or whatever. But
Speaker 3: we go to this escape room and all I did
Speaker 3: was look up, like most fun escape rooms in New
Speaker 3: York City, and this one kept coming up, so I
Speaker 3: didn't know anything about the theme. And we get there
Speaker 3: and the escape room is about a person who died
Speaker 3: in the New Amsterdam Theater, which is where Aladdin is,
Speaker 3: and it's about her ghosts haunting that theater since the
Speaker 3: nineteen twenties when she did a vaudeville show there and
Speaker 3: it was you have to do this skape room rouse.
Speaker 3: I think you would think it was really cool. It
Speaker 3: was all about like bringing her and the other Flappers
Speaker 3: ghosts back to life. And I did kind of feel
Speaker 3: her energy there. And there's a whole book on her
Speaker 3: and how like a lot of weird stuff happens in
Speaker 3: that theater and she has been haunting the theater for
Speaker 3: years and years.
Speaker 1: So it is a true story.
Speaker 3: It is a true story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has he ever had any experiences in that theater.
Speaker 3: He has not personally, but he said the crew people
Speaker 3: have told him stories about really weird stuff happening, Like
Speaker 3: they'll put something down and it will suddenly go missing,
Speaker 3: or suddenly there'll be a bad fire smell and they think, oh,
Speaker 3: that's her.
Speaker 1: Classic.
Speaker 2: What was her name? Do you remember?
Speaker 3: Michael Henry? She's always eating like single pieces of cheese.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if that was Mike call and card
Speaker 2: as a ghost just eating their cheese? Mike, a little mouse,
Speaker 2: that's cute.
Speaker 1: Why did you look at my tits when you said flapper.
Speaker 3: And little mouse? That's so rude, so rude. Her name
Speaker 3: was Olive, Olive Thomas, Yes.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Okay, I wasn't sure if it
Speaker 1: was the same theater, But I have heard of that ghost, honey,
Speaker 1: she is famous. I've read articles about miss Olive. Wait,
Speaker 1: how did she die? Should we look it up?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We should.
Speaker 2: I hope it's a stage here and dropped a sand
Speaker 2: bag on her.
Speaker 3: Like and dropped ed gorgeous? Yeah what if it was
Speaker 3: like orsh She just died him from embarrassment from bombing
Speaker 3: on stage. She died in Paris five days after ingesting
Speaker 3: her husband's syphilis medication No, I swear to God nineteen twenty.
Speaker 3: Although her death was ruled accidental, news of her hospitalization
Speaker 3: and subsequent death were the subject of speculation in the press.
Speaker 3: He had syphilis and then he gave her his syphiless medication.
Speaker 1: Honey, wait, why did he so? He were they open?
Speaker 1: Why did he so he had syphilis?
Speaker 3: She didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he gave her the syphilis medicine mm hmm,
Speaker 1: and then she owed deed from it.
Speaker 3: Apparently the syphilss medication come a mercury di dichloride that
Speaker 3: brought on acute nephritis. Okay, so I guess it caused
Speaker 3: some reaction in her that brought on an illness that
Speaker 3: killed her.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you have syphilis. If she doesn't like you, Oh,
Speaker 1: Michael Dogo, there.
Speaker 2: You know what. I've never had syphiliss. I'm down to
Speaker 2: try it.
Speaker 3: Honey, stay away for Michael. You just want to say
Speaker 3: away from the gonorrhea ghosts.
Speaker 1: Here's an article from playbill dot com. A group of
Speaker 1: Disney staffers were sitting in an office discussing the USCAR
Speaker 1: winning film The Artist, set in the silent film era.
Speaker 1: They were wondering how many follies girls because she was
Speaker 1: a folly girl, became film stars, and they mentioned that
Speaker 1: Olive Thomas was one, but somebody said the real star
Speaker 1: of the silent film era was Mary Pickford, who was
Speaker 1: Olive's sister in law. And that's when she got upset. Oh,
Speaker 1: there was a stack of thirteen or fourteen DVDs on
Speaker 1: the table next to them that flew into the air
Speaker 1: and crashed across the room.
Speaker 2: Not DVD.
Speaker 1: They all sat in silence, says they didn't fall straight
Speaker 1: down as would have done. They went flying about three
Speaker 1: feet across the room and hit the wall. And it
Speaker 1: was witnessed by several people.
Speaker 2: God, imagine being killed by a DVD.
Speaker 3: I know Freddie got Fingered almost killed me honestly from laughing, honey,
Speaker 3: because I was.
Speaker 2: I've so ever seen it. I need to see you you've.
Speaker 3: Never seen Freddy got Fingered.
Speaker 1: No, it's great acting from one Thomas Green.
Speaker 3: And Shaquille O'Neill got Fingered.
Speaker 1: I opened for Tom Green one time at Bringing It
Speaker 1: Back Flappers Stock Comedy Club. Hey, can I tell you
Speaker 1: guys about a haunted doll a research?
Speaker 3: Please please tell us?
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the story of Susie the Haunted Doll.
Speaker 1: I have become obsessed with this TV show called Paranormal Witness.
Speaker 1: It's not like a cur show. It's been it was
Speaker 1: on for a number of years, and it's like a
Speaker 1: re enactment show. But they have like the real people
Speaker 1: on telling the story and then they have actors reenacting it.
Speaker 1: But the stories are good. And this story had its
Speaker 1: own episode called Susie Doll. And the story takes place
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three in West Haven, Connecticut. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Jerry and Linda Platt. I wonder if they're related
Speaker 1: to who's thet.
Speaker 2: Ben Platt, Chris Platt.
Speaker 3: That's Chris Crabb.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're related. This family, they've got three daughters, Laura, Lisa,
Speaker 1: and Heather, and they're all living in a two story apartment.
Speaker 1: So it's Heather's sixth birthday and her aunt Robin comes
Speaker 1: over and brings her a life size doll that she
Speaker 1: said she made to look exactly like Heather. No, it's
Speaker 1: like just as tall as her and she made it
Speaker 1: by hand. And the doll's name is Susie. So that night,
Speaker 1: Jerry and Linda are trying to sleep and they hear
Speaker 1: a growl outside and they think it's a hurt animal,
Speaker 1: so they get up. They look outside the window and
Speaker 1: they see a giant, large shadow coming down the street,
Speaker 1: like so big that is blocking out street lights. It's
Speaker 1: like this big black mass just coming down the street
Speaker 1: with the growl, and then it just sort of disappears.
Speaker 1: The next morning, Heather is eating cereal with Susie on
Speaker 1: the couch. She leaves the living room for a second
Speaker 1: to go get a drink, and when she comes back,
Speaker 1: Susie is in the rocking chair. That night, Linda is
Speaker 1: upstairs and here's a commotion downstairs. She goes down there
Speaker 1: and the kitchen is all tore up with food everywhere.
Speaker 1: Jerry's getting pissed and he's like, these fucking girls throwing
Speaker 1: shit everywhere. He goes up to their room and they're
Speaker 1: all sleeping. It wasn't them, who was it. Morning Jerry
Speaker 1: wakes up and he hears what sounds like TV static.
Speaker 1: Linda's at work. He's like, what's going on here? He
Speaker 1: goes downstairs and all the furniture is rearranged. There's chairs
Speaker 1: on tables and shit. Heather is sitting with Susie watching
Speaker 1: TV static. She's in a trance. So at this point
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, what is going on? Like this is weird?
Speaker 1: But whatever would you guys think that there was like
Speaker 1: a ghost at this point if like you came downstairs
Speaker 1: and all of the furnitures rearranged. Mind you, they have
Speaker 1: little girls, so nobody would have. They wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to pick up chairs and couches and tip over
Speaker 1: the TV and do all this shit.
Speaker 2: It could be wicker.
Speaker 1: Oh that is true. Maybe it was wicker in the reenactment.
Speaker 1: It was not wicker.
Speaker 3: Okay, and there the girls are six eight and high.
Speaker 1: Actually I don't know how old the other two are,
Speaker 1: but I know that Heather's the youngest and she's six.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I know it wasn't my girl, Heather,
Speaker 3: because youngest children do anything wrong, and it's always the
Speaker 3: older ones.
Speaker 1: I'm one of them. I'm youngest. SAME's three.
Speaker 2: Please, I'm the youngest in the world. What are you, Michael,
Speaker 2: I'm the oldest of my family of.
Speaker 3: How many, he's the old cheese if you will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm alser than my parents too.
Speaker 1: So okay, at night, the girls and it seems as
Speaker 1: if this is all just happening like sequentially, like it's
Speaker 1: all just like the next day, another thing is whatever.
Speaker 1: So maybe I'm assuming that night, the little girls are
Speaker 1: hearing children playing outside in like the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: and they're creeped out. They're like, what's going on? That
Speaker 1: is so weird. The one daughter wakes up the next
Speaker 1: morning and she's covered in hair. She goes to a parent,
Speaker 1: She's like, why is their hair everywhere? They look at
Speaker 1: the back of her head and there is a circle
Speaker 1: of hair missing. They take her to a specialist who
Speaker 1: says that it has been ripped out, it has not
Speaker 1: fallen out. So she's got like that clown look, you know,
Speaker 1: like bald on the top, long on the side.
Speaker 2: I should have got that clown look.
Speaker 1: She's got that clown look, which I have come out
Speaker 1: of the closet about the fact that my father is
Speaker 1: a professional clown and he has that look. And I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful I did not inherit the genetics of being
Speaker 1: bald on the top with curly orange hair on the side,
Speaker 1: because I really don't look like my father.
Speaker 2: Well, don't get haunted by one of these ghosts.
Speaker 1: But I will say I do have my father's shoe.
Speaker 2: Thigh do you have your father's dress size.
Speaker 1: My dad does wear a lot of makeup and wigs.
Speaker 1: That is true.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So one night at dinner, Heather says bad things are
Speaker 1: going to happen in this house. The one daughter sees
Speaker 1: Susie the doll in their room one day. Now, this
Speaker 1: is where the story gets interesting in my opinion, again,
Speaker 1: you gotta watch this TV show and to see the
Speaker 1: reenactment of this because it's great. So the one daughter
Speaker 1: sees Susie sitting in the bedroom and she's like creeped out.
Speaker 1: She doesn't go in the bedroom. She like turns away
Speaker 1: to talk to her mom. When she comes back to
Speaker 1: the bedroom, Susie is not there, and she's like, where's Susie.
Speaker 1: She hears a noise in the bathroom. She goes into
Speaker 1: the bathroom and she sees Susie on the toilet with
Speaker 1: her pants down, staring at her like, can you knock please?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah, so Susie's in there taking a shit.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: At this point I'm on Susie's side. I would be like, hello,
Speaker 1: give me a little privacy here. I gotta take a
Speaker 1: doll poop.
Speaker 2: When I worked at a restaurant, on one of the tables.
Speaker 2: That was Sarvey walked in on me taking a shit.
Speaker 1: Okay, so basically that's exactly what happened with Susie the doll.
Speaker 1: So Jerry the dad, wakes up one morning and he's
Speaker 1: here in crash boom banging downstairs. He goes down there
Speaker 1: and all the captains are open and there's contents all
Speaker 1: over the floor. The kitchen chairs are on the table.
Speaker 1: But here's the catch. The front legs of the chairs
Speaker 1: are on the table. The hind legs are like floating,
Speaker 1: like they're just like not on anything. Very strange. This
Speaker 1: man was like, actually he quoted the wickedly talented Adele
Speaker 1: Desime by saying that the chair was defying gravity. So
Speaker 1: Jerry tells Linda, Okay, I think we got a ghost,
Speaker 1: and she's like, girl, it's the kids, Linda, Linda is
Speaker 1: not here for it. She's like, the kids are they're
Speaker 1: just little girls playing jokes. And he's like, no, we
Speaker 1: got a ghost. Which I love. I love when it's
Speaker 1: like the straight man being like, there's a ghost in
Speaker 1: my house and the mom's like, shut up.
Speaker 2: You just drink it again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So Linda is home alone one day and she
Speaker 1: sees Susie the doll on a rocking chair. She sits
Speaker 1: down to enjoy a nice sandwich. Linda does, and she
Speaker 1: hears a noise. She goes over to the stairs and
Speaker 1: she sees marbles going down the stairs one by one
Speaker 1: and she's like, wait, I'm home alone, what's going on?
Speaker 1: So she assumes that there's an intruder. This bitch is sickening.
Speaker 1: She grabs a weapon and goes up there to investigate.
Speaker 1: There's nobody there, but when she comes downstairs, the marbles
Speaker 1: are in the middle of the living room floor as
Speaker 1: if somebody PLoP them there, and Susie is gone. So
Speaker 1: now Linda is like, okay, I go say ooh, Jerry
Speaker 1: an apology. So she's converted now believes that there's a ghost.
Speaker 1: And they are like, what are we gonna do? We
Speaker 1: don't want to tell the kids and freak them out. Also,
Speaker 1: they were, you know, having a tough time financially. They
Speaker 1: couldn't just get up and move, so they had to
Speaker 1: just figure this thing out. And this one night, Jerry
Speaker 1: goes to bed and he feels something hit him in
Speaker 1: the arm and it knocks him down and he said
Speaker 1: it hurts his arm real bad. And as he's down
Speaker 1: on the ground, he notices his bed frame, like the
Speaker 1: knobs at the end of the posts on the bed
Speaker 1: frame are untwisting on their own, and then they flang
Speaker 1: at him. And when he looks at his arm, there
Speaker 1: are four deep claw marks in them. So they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: time to bring in the church. So they call a
Speaker 1: reverend who suggests Lorraine Warren. Are you familiar with Lorraine
Speaker 1: Warren from The Conjuring? Now the Conjuring? That's right.
Speaker 2: The singer songwriter.
Speaker 3: Diane Warren bed oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Diane Warren Vietnamic for like twenty Academy Awards.
Speaker 1: Remind me who that is.
Speaker 3: She's written like every song you've ever heard, literally like
Speaker 3: she she's just unbelievable. She's written like.
Speaker 2: She only has one Grammy And it was for like
Speaker 2: an Eddie Murphy song she.
Speaker 3: Will Unbreak my Heart. I ever heard of that? Tony Braxton.
Speaker 1: Say you love me again?
Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm, you haven't seen the last of me
Speaker 3: because you love me Selene?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I see the vibe now, yeah, so very
Speaker 1: important we know about her, though she was not at
Speaker 1: this in this story.
Speaker 3: She didn't write she was doing the backup tracks, she
Speaker 3: was scoring it.
Speaker 1: She's she's over there, like, Cloma.
Speaker 3: Stop throwing bed posted me.
Speaker 1: So Lorraine Warren, who's this famous psychic paranormal investigator type lady.
Speaker 1: So she comes over and of course as soon as
Speaker 1: she walks in the house, she's like, oh.
Speaker 3: There's something here, there's a presence in this house.
Speaker 1: And she tells the family that everyone needs to go
Speaker 1: in the kitchen and hold hands. But Heather's still sleeping.
Speaker 1: They're holding hands. I guess they're sort of meditating whatever,
Speaker 1: and right away they start feeling strong winds blowing in
Speaker 1: their kitchen. Then they start hearing Heather yelling in her
Speaker 1: room and they're like, what is she doing? So they
Speaker 1: go over into her room and this is another great
Speaker 1: reenactment scene. Six year old Heather is going in a
Speaker 1: deep voice, get the fuck out of here, and she's
Speaker 1: saying it over and over and over again.
Speaker 3: That was Michael when that person walked in out of
Speaker 3: him taking a dump.
Speaker 2: Yeah. When I got up to shut re shut the door,
Speaker 2: the seat liner followed me.
Speaker 3: And it never left.
Speaker 2: It's still with it. Yeah, truly. So as I'm trying
Speaker 2: to cut the door to try to get this wet
Speaker 2: toilet seat liner off me. Get the fuck out, he
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: So the mom throws holy water on the girl. They're like,
Speaker 1: is she possessed? And the rain Warren's like the entity
Speaker 1: is trying to possess her. So they invite over a
Speaker 1: priest that has done exorcisms before. And his name is
Speaker 1: father McKenna. That's his last name. That's his last name,
Speaker 1: but I wish it was his first name. So my
Speaker 1: priest is coming over. His name is McKenna, Father Kenna.
Speaker 3: My priest lakelan Kelly McKenna.
Speaker 1: So Father McKenna comes over and he's joined by another priest,
Speaker 1: and he tells the family to gather around in the
Speaker 1: living room, and he says, no matter what you do,
Speaker 1: don't look behind you. Keep your eyes forward.
Speaker 3: A nickel.
Speaker 2: Me in an originy.
Speaker 1: So within seconds of him reading his Bible verses, they're
Speaker 1: here and scratching on the walls. They hear growls from
Speaker 1: upstairs heading downstairs toward them, the same growls from the
Speaker 1: first night. I feel like I can't say growl, growl, growl, growl.
Speaker 1: So the curtains are blowing even though the windows are closed.
Speaker 1: The priest. He does this thing and then he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, everything's good, and he's like, I'm getting out
Speaker 1: of here. So he leaves with his priest friend. And actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the priest. Let's say the other
Speaker 1: priest's name was father Ava. I don't know, father Ashley.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. But father McKenna is out of there,
Speaker 1: and the family's like, okay, we need to get out
Speaker 1: of here. Like now the ghost is gone. The father
Speaker 1: has taken care of it. And as soon as they
Speaker 1: are leaving the house, Linda hears the rocking chair rocking
Speaker 1: on its own and she's like, damn it, Father McKenna
Speaker 1: did not do what he needed to do. So she
Speaker 1: goes in, she grabs Susie, throws her in a dumpster,
Speaker 1: and later that week the garbage truck comes and takes
Speaker 1: Susie away, and that's it. The doll never nothing bad
Speaker 1: ever happened in that house. All they needed to do
Speaker 1: is throw it away, which I think is interesting. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people will think that if you
Speaker 1: have like a haunted object, there's like, how do we
Speaker 1: get rid of it? Like the ghost is still gonna
Speaker 1: be here whatever, It's just a vessel and now the
Speaker 1: demon is with you. Whatever they're like, just.
Speaker 2: Throw it away, yeah, just recondo it.
Speaker 1: Literally, but don't think it. Just be like I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in any of this?
Speaker 2: Oh? I feel like I've had some haunted objects, like
Speaker 2: what I have some vibrators with the mind of their own? Like, bitch,
Speaker 2: how did that put you on hyper speed? What is this?
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the beginning of the story. Where's
Speaker 1: Aunt Robin? Right, That's all I was gonna say, What
Speaker 1: the fuck did she do with this? What is this doll?
Speaker 1: She made this doll.
Speaker 3: So she's a witch of some sort. I'm thinking Aunt
Speaker 3: Robin put some sort of curse on this doll that
Speaker 3: she made look exactly like the youngest child. Here's what
Speaker 3: I need to know. Is Aunt Robin younger than Linda
Speaker 3: or older than Linda? Ooh? Because if she's the youngest,
Speaker 3: or if if Aunt Robin is older, maybe she wanted
Speaker 3: to possess the youngest child to torture, you know, that
Speaker 3: version of Linda, her younger sister.
Speaker 1: Something's going on with Aunt Robin. I'm a little annoyed
Speaker 1: that they didn't dive into that deeper in this episode
Speaker 1: of the show.
Speaker 2: But maybe Aunt Robin has some sort of like drinking
Speaker 2: problem or mental illness, said she was like some of
Speaker 2: those bad spirits went into the doll.
Speaker 3: Oh that could be. Or maybe Robin went off and
Speaker 3: sued American Girl for making truly me dolls, which is
Speaker 3: literally Aunt Robin's idea, which is to just copy a
Speaker 3: person's exact likeness and make a doll out of it.
Speaker 2: I don't remember. They used to be an American Girl
Speaker 2: Doll store at the Grove, and I remember thinking, this
Speaker 2: is a really big ass store in restaurant for American Girl.
Speaker 2: Tho is it really that popular? It's closed now.
Speaker 3: People said I had the best crab cakes. Yeah, closed
Speaker 3: now best crabcakes in the city. American Girl.
Speaker 1: I heard at the American Girl Doll place. Oh that's
Speaker 1: so sad. I thought it was open all this time.
Speaker 1: I did order some American Girl doll accessories for my
Speaker 1: live show for my Anna Belle doll that I had
Speaker 1: on stage. Yeah, this whole thing is sketchy, and to me,
Speaker 1: it all goes back to Aunt Robin, especially when you
Speaker 1: think that she made the doll in her likeness like
Speaker 1: that does feel like a witchcrad right.
Speaker 2: Why are you obsessed with me? Like? Why want to
Speaker 2: make it all this like me and get a light? Right? Well,
Speaker 2: there's some jealousy, there's some bad intentions.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting. Anyway. Hey, I found a news story
Speaker 1: that I am so mad missed me. This story came
Speaker 1: out in October twenty twenty three, which was a busy
Speaker 1: month for me. I did have a TV show come
Speaker 1: out that month, but I missed this article and I
Speaker 1: wanted to read you a little bit of it. This
Speaker 1: was posted on a very reliable source, dailymail dot co
Speaker 1: dot ukh. The title of this little article is I
Speaker 1: had sex with a ghost every night for twenty years,
Speaker 1: but I dumped him when I saw he had fang
Speaker 1: and the face of a gargoyle.
Speaker 3: Uh drago.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she slept.
Speaker 1: With him for twenty years. Well he must have been
Speaker 1: hung but then but the face did not make up
Speaker 1: for any of it. So it says a woman claims
Speaker 1: that she had knightly romps with a ghost with fangs
Speaker 1: in the face of a gargoyle for over twenty years.
Speaker 1: Paula Flores from Colombia said that her relationship with the
Speaker 1: spirits started when she was young, and that the frisky
Speaker 1: ghoul visited her every night while she slept. She made
Speaker 1: the claims on the TV show Seen Greta, which means
Speaker 1: without lies the Truth, which broadcasts on the state owned
Speaker 1: channel Cane one. So she claimed that he always initiated it,
Speaker 1: which is very like in hindsight. It's one of those
Speaker 1: things you say in hindsight, Lisa, he was into it,
Speaker 1: I was whatever. He initiated it, and that She ended
Speaker 1: up falling in love with the charismatic specter, even enjoying
Speaker 1: a twenty year long passionate fling with him. She told viewers,
Speaker 1: one day, I was lying down when I felt a
Speaker 1: hand move from my feet to my chest. It was strange.
Speaker 1: I was scared. From that moment on, he started coming
Speaker 1: to me like a spirit to have sex with me.
Speaker 1: She considered herself a loving partner to the ghost for
Speaker 1: over twenty years, or for twenty years until she saw
Speaker 1: his face. She explained, he was a very big man,
Speaker 1: but the day I caught a glimpse of him, he
Speaker 1: had fangs in the face of a gargoyle. After seeing
Speaker 1: the ghoul's scary looks, she stated she did not want
Speaker 1: any further contact with him because he frightened her, and
Speaker 1: then she said, the last time I saw his face
Speaker 1: was when I didn't want to continue. That's cold.
Speaker 3: I think she finally answered the question and that love
Speaker 3: is not blind. Oh no, this is a love is
Speaker 3: blind situation. She says, she fell in love with all
Speaker 3: these other parts of him and then she saw his
Speaker 3: face and she said, no, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Well, the ghost did tell her that he looks like
Speaker 1: Megan Fox, and then when they saw.
Speaker 2: I love to see what she really looks like. But
Speaker 2: how sad to be called a butterface even in the afterlife.
Speaker 1: But here's the good news. Michael, you're single. Right, there's
Speaker 1: there is to say, Michael, you're a butterface. Right, there
Speaker 1: is a single man out there. As long as you
Speaker 1: don't look at his face.
Speaker 2: I'm down. He must know what he's doing for her
Speaker 2: to be smashing for twenty years.
Speaker 1: I know, And I wonder how frequently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean after like the first year, you really
Speaker 2: got to keep the spice a lot.
Speaker 1: And if he's always initiating it, like is it just
Speaker 1: a sneak attack? Like are you just laying there and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, someone's here, Like.
Speaker 3: I know, I think she was ass up, because literally,
Speaker 3: how does she not see his face? She must have
Speaker 3: been It must have been doggy style.
Speaker 2: She's been at the Ramada for twenty years. Just face down,
Speaker 2: ass up by getting it.
Speaker 3: By this she's on Sniffy's and only the ghosts were
Speaker 3: showing up.
Speaker 2: Apparently she lived at the same place for twenty years.
Speaker 2: Did she not traveled? His ghost just followed her?
Speaker 1: I guess the ghost travels. I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you it was the ghost like baby put
Speaker 1: this blindfold on and then she had to put it
Speaker 1: on for like I don't know. Yeah, you would have
Speaker 1: to be face down. Can I play some ghost voices?
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev please all right now,
Speaker 1: Normally around this time of the show, I would you
Speaker 1: guys haunted eBay doll. But you know we've had enough
Speaker 1: dolls for this episode, so let's hop on over to
Speaker 1: some electronic voice phenomenon. So you guys have done this
Speaker 1: with me before. I go to YouTube dot com and
Speaker 1: I type in ghost voices and this is what I get.
Speaker 1: I've got two of them for you. I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: them for you, and I want you to tell me
Speaker 1: what you hear, and then I'll give you abc D
Speaker 1: one of them being what the ghost hunter believes the
Speaker 1: ghost is saying. So this first one comes from Miss
Speaker 1: Jenna Glow on YouTube and it was recorded in a museum.
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying? I'll play it again.
Speaker 2: I think, see what's up them around corner? What's up?
Speaker 1: I'm around the corner.
Speaker 2: I'm British.
Speaker 1: I played again.
Speaker 3: I think it's something like that's not yours, it's mine.
Speaker 2: M I heard what's up around for my boys?
Speaker 1: What's up around for my boys?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now what scenario would somebody say, what's up around for
Speaker 1: my boys?
Speaker 2: At the bar? Are you buying a drink?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Like around?
Speaker 2: What's up around for my boy boys? Oh?
Speaker 1: That little tiny voice saying that what's up around for
Speaker 1: my boys? That is not what Miss Jenna Glow thought?
Speaker 1: Was it a dim sum? Is real good? Maybe the
Speaker 1: ghost was in the mood for some Chinese food? Is it? B?
Speaker 1: Is somebody here?
Speaker 2: Is it C?
Speaker 1: Did somebody die?
Speaker 3: Or D?
Speaker 1: Check your lipstick? All right, it's one of those. Let
Speaker 1: me play it again.
Speaker 2: Maybe I think I think ce No, see see did
Speaker 2: somebody die?
Speaker 1: Did somebody die up in here?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: They believe it was B is somebody here. Let me
Speaker 1: play it again, now that we know that now here
Speaker 1: is somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the here is not What's what they're saying?
Speaker 3: We would hear that right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Speaking of things that are no longer here, remember here
Speaker 1: Loud that used to be a place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday Nights, truck stop, Lesbay.
Speaker 1: Night, Thursday nights, Tripper Circus. That was the thing that
Speaker 1: was good.
Speaker 2: What about remember Baja Fresh?
Speaker 1: Is Baja Fresh? Not a thing?
Speaker 2: I can't find a single Baha Fresh.
Speaker 1: You know what I love is q Doba anytime I travel.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love Kedoba?
Speaker 3: What gets me together?
Speaker 1: It is so good.
Speaker 2: They have a great shrimp burrito.
Speaker 3: They do they do? Is where it's at?
Speaker 1: Are my legs open? When you said shrimp burrito? I
Speaker 1: got self conscious?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's.
Speaker 1: Go to the next ev P. This one is from
Speaker 1: TLC Paranormal Honey Noose Scrubs here in the Afterlife. This
Speaker 1: was at a place called the Mountaineer, which is in Waynesville,
Speaker 1: North Carolina. What is this saying?
Speaker 3: Hey stop that, Hey stop that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually a good guess. Put again, what any gases? Michael?
Speaker 2: How big is that?
Speaker 1: How big is that big?
Speaker 3: Please? Or maybe what do you got there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What do you got there? I like, what you got there?
Speaker 2: Tim?
Speaker 3: What do you got?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you got there? How big is that?
Speaker 2: What you.
Speaker 3: What do you got that?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 3: At that time I heard Michael Henry's a bitch very clearly, now,
Speaker 3: very clearly.
Speaker 1: That is not what TLC paranormal thought. Do they think
Speaker 1: it was A? Who the fuck through that? Which is
Speaker 1: a quote from one of my favorite movies, Scary Movie Three?
Speaker 1: Do they think it was B? Who would put up
Speaker 1: with that?
Speaker 3: Is it C?
Speaker 1: When you got there? Or D don't go chasing waterfalls? Okay?
Speaker 1: Which one is it?
Speaker 3: Obviously C?
Speaker 2: I think CE?
Speaker 3: Either C or D don't go chasing waterfalls? L Right,
Speaker 3: p Lisa Lopez, So I love so.
Speaker 1: Much rest in peace? Yes, they did think it was C.
Speaker 1: What do you got there?
Speaker 2: What you got there? What's your pack? In? This is
Speaker 2: Michelle Massage, Michelle Maasage. Don't you beckon? What is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is her interviewing, uh, Sephira, what's your bagg?
Speaker 1: Well, let's do one last thing real quick. The last
Speaker 1: time you were on, I heard a lot about your
Speaker 1: different beliefs on all kinds of things like witchcraft, demon
Speaker 1: psychics UFOs. We covered a lot, so I'm just curious
Speaker 1: a couple more little, you know, supernaturally things. If you
Speaker 1: have any thoughts, maybe stories, whatever, we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: past lives. What do you think of that.
Speaker 3: Same? I definitely think we have past lives.
Speaker 2: I know I was so many different things, and I
Speaker 2: know I'm going to be a lot more.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I think this is the
Speaker 3: end of the line for you.
Speaker 2: I've got places to be.
Speaker 1: You think, what do you think you were?
Speaker 2: I know I was a cat. I know I was
Speaker 2: at this aage right now. I know I was someone
Speaker 2: who already had children. I know that I drowned in
Speaker 2: a past life. Those are the three things I know
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Now, why do you feel so convinced of that?
Speaker 2: Because I just feel like, once I hear a certain age,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm feeling motherly. I'm feeling like I
Speaker 2: should be a caretaker right now.
Speaker 1: Like a feline.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling feline. You know, I'm feeling neutered.
Speaker 1: Well, But I'm thinking, what if it was all three
Speaker 1: of those things at once? What if you were a
Speaker 1: cat that had a litter and then she drowned.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna draw my pussy? Me? Yeah? Who wants to
Speaker 2: draw by pussy?
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you were the pussy that got drowned exactly maybe?
Speaker 2: Who knows? True? But cats they're not Have you ever
Speaker 2: had a cat that gave birth?
Speaker 1: Never? I've never had a cat at all.
Speaker 2: My mom loves cats, and she had a cat that
Speaker 2: recently gave birth and I was there for it, and
Speaker 2: it only had one kitten. And afterwards this cat wanted
Speaker 2: nothing to do with her kitten. She was like, when
Speaker 2: can I eat? Cats? Are not that nurturing. After a while,
Speaker 2: I know I was a human mother.
Speaker 3: Well I do I think you're a cat mother because
Speaker 3: you're not very nurturing.
Speaker 2: No, that's fake news.
Speaker 3: That's the truth. That's honey, that's just the truth.
Speaker 1: So Tim, do you have any idea what you might
Speaker 1: have been?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that I was Franklin Delano Roosevelt for
Speaker 3: a little bit. Before that, I was like a hot guy,
Speaker 3: a hot straight guy with a huge ass. And I
Speaker 3: think before that I was like a lemur with a
Speaker 3: top hat and a cane.
Speaker 1: Oh feers a lemur?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Isn't that like what timone is? And let the lan King.
Speaker 1: Now that's a prairie dogs.
Speaker 2: That's a stray. You're astray.
Speaker 3: A para dog is what Michael was doing in the bathroom,
Speaker 3: just poking it out, poking it out of the hole.
Speaker 2: Not wrong, It's not wrong.
Speaker 3: Prairie dog. Okay, Well, I don't know what a lever is,
Speaker 3: to be honest, I know that I was okay, and
Speaker 3: I think I was fdr. I think I created the
Speaker 3: new deal.
Speaker 2: Did he say what did he say? Walk softly and
Speaker 2: carry a big stick?
Speaker 3: Honey? Did I say that?
Speaker 1: To this day, you could never hear Tim Murray come in.
Speaker 2: He walking so softly, so slowly. Don't walk don't walk
Speaker 2: behind him in Penn station.
Speaker 3: Please don't walk behind Michael in the airport. This woman
Speaker 3: in Chicago ra started yelling at Michael in the airport.
Speaker 3: It was so funny.
Speaker 1: She why.
Speaker 2: I was just in the airport doing a normal thing,
Speaker 2: walking and looking on my phone. Where what's my Airbnb address?
Speaker 2: And then I hear this person behind me saying, I'm
Speaker 2: just gotta walk flow and look at my phone. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna walk slow and look at my phone. And
Speaker 2: then I looked behind me and I was like, this
Speaker 2: woman is resting me.
Speaker 4: So she comes behind me. She's looking at her phone,
Speaker 4: particul to look at her phone and limick me, and
Speaker 4: I start yelling at her. I said, yeah, oh, you're
Speaker 4: mimicking me.
Speaker 2: How funny. Yeah, you want to be me. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want to be you either. But her husband is just
Speaker 2: laughing and laughing. So this woman must pull this stunt
Speaker 2: all the time. She would not laugh, she would not
Speaker 2: let up.
Speaker 3: She kept going, oh, look at me on my phone,
Speaker 3: look at me on on my phone, like really loud,
Speaker 3: for like the whole airport to hear, just mocking Michael
Speaker 3: for filth. I was like, oh, taking my.
Speaker 2: Job, you know what. Once we got to the escalators,
Speaker 2: her dumb ass was standing at the top of the
Speaker 2: escalators blocking. Yes, I just want to I just want
Speaker 2: to kick her and record it on my phone.
Speaker 1: I love her, be nice, you know what she I mean,
Speaker 1: that's my friend.
Speaker 2: She was bold, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good for her. She made a choice. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: move to the next topic. Curses. Do you believe in curses?
Speaker 2: One hundred?
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 1: Now do you think that some people, places things are cursed?
Speaker 3: I don't know that people. I think I think more
Speaker 3: likely in show business we have a lot of people
Speaker 3: who think that they're cursed, and it's like, honey, you're
Speaker 3: just bad at acting, or you're just or you're just
Speaker 3: like have a really bad attitude. But I do believe
Speaker 3: that places are cursed, and I think you can Okay,
Speaker 3: I think you can have a curse place upon you,
Speaker 3: but it doesn't mean that Like it's kind of like
Speaker 3: I have I experienced anxiety. I don't have anxiety or whatever.
Speaker 3: Like someone can curse you, but it doesn't mean that
Speaker 3: you are a cursed person. So you can have a
Speaker 3: curse on you. But I don't think curses honestly can
Speaker 3: last like your whole life long.
Speaker 2: I've never had a curse, but I've definitely placed curses
Speaker 2: on other people. Like I've definitely concocted stories where I
Speaker 2: had hoped something horrible would happen to somebody for an
Speaker 2: extended period of time.
Speaker 1: Is this something you want to say out loud that
Speaker 1: is recorded.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not telling anybody who they are, but I
Speaker 2: think it's good that it's recorded that way. People know
Speaker 2: not to test me or else I'll put a curse
Speaker 2: on them.
Speaker 1: How do you put a curse on somebody?
Speaker 2: What do you do you just have a lot of
Speaker 2: thoughts energy will. I'm very big an intention, and I
Speaker 2: could have a negative intention and towards a specific person,
Speaker 2: you know, to have a specific thing. I could will
Speaker 2: somebody to be impotent.
Speaker 3: That's what happens with the men that come over all
Speaker 3: the time. Do you think, oh, I must have willed
Speaker 3: this to happen. That's why kick it hard. That's just
Speaker 3: the story you're telling yourself to the text feelers to it.
Speaker 2: I put a curse on them. That's why they can't
Speaker 2: get hard for I'm in control, right.
Speaker 1: I made you vomit. They're like, yeah, you did. I'm
Speaker 1: all about like you know, the secret, like that kind
Speaker 1: of a thing where like you can't you can make
Speaker 1: good things happen. But I think you can make bad
Speaker 1: things happen by being negative too. So I could see
Speaker 1: that being true for sure, definitely. But I believe in karma,
Speaker 1: so I don't think it's good to wish bad on people.
Speaker 2: But that's just me.
Speaker 3: I feel like we were talking about frequency the other day,
Speaker 3: Michael and I were, and I think that's real too,
Speaker 3: Like if you're operating at a really high frequency, if
Speaker 3: you're really positive, positive things will start to happen. And
Speaker 3: then if other people are being negative around you, negative
Speaker 3: things do happen to them, and that's just like, that's
Speaker 3: part of like your vibe.
Speaker 2: So it's them putting a curse on themselves.
Speaker 3: Honey, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't need to curse you because you're already cursing you.
Speaker 1: I don't need to tell you you're ugly, because you
Speaker 1: know you're ugly.
Speaker 2: And that's Shane Shade.
Speaker 1: Comes from reading recipes Dory and Corey and the Mummy
Speaker 1: in her closet that they fell, she died one last one.
Speaker 1: Let's do horoscopes? Are you guys like into that kind
Speaker 1: of a thing.
Speaker 3: I'm not, but I'm willing to learn.
Speaker 2: I want you. Evander Punk rules and James Kennedy is
Speaker 2: dating an astrologer and she's talking a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: about you know, your what sign is in your eye
Speaker 2: or your ten pals and all this, and are like,
Speaker 2: there's so much here, I'm thinking it must be real.
Speaker 2: So I have to get invested to figure out what's
Speaker 2: in my house?
Speaker 3: My house?
Speaker 2: What's up? I refrisherator. Oh my god, that's such a terarious.
Speaker 1: Sorry gento.
Speaker 3: Terry is.
Speaker 1: By the way, James Kennedy is the British one, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who was actually raised in Atlanta. Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Yes, he's been the same podcast network as me, and
Speaker 1: sometimes I would record after and then he would hang out,
Speaker 1: and he was really nice and really fun. I've never
Speaker 1: seen that show though, Tim, What do you think of horoscopes?
Speaker 3: I don't really think of them. It seems like everyone
Speaker 3: I know who's like a naysayer about it eventually turns
Speaker 3: around and is like, Oh, I actually believe in it.
Speaker 3: So I don't really I need to do more research.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't really have an opinion.
Speaker 1: I know it's too much to know. I can't even have.
Speaker 3: A lot of reality TV to watch. I can't be
Speaker 3: learning about things like that.
Speaker 1: Wait, let's do one more Lackness Monster. Do you think
Speaker 1: that that's real?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I ed fuck him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I don't really know exactly who where
Speaker 2: that is. It's in Scotland, oh lock Mass.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's this thing much like Bigfoot, where
Speaker 1: many cultures, many parts of the world. You know, it
Speaker 1: almost seems like every lake or whatever has like this
Speaker 1: monster that someone has seen before that lurks. It's like
Speaker 1: some man in nineteen twenty four said that he saw
Speaker 1: something and now that now it's on T shirts.
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny that there's been no new lake monsters
Speaker 2: since everybody has an iPhone since I left that lake exactly.
Speaker 1: No, I think about that a lot with all of
Speaker 1: this stuff, to be honest with you, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, we're all so skeptical now, and people are
Speaker 1: really good at faking things now, So even if they
Speaker 1: did capture a lake monster on camera and put it
Speaker 1: on TikTok, everyone would think it was fake.
Speaker 3: I think latinst Monster was real a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's like alive anymore. But I mean
Speaker 3: if you go back and like we actually have like
Speaker 3: actual scientific days of like the megalodon, like that giant
Speaker 3: ass shark that is like that was real. It was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, like four times the size of a
Speaker 3: regular gray white shark. It was basically like if a
Speaker 3: great white shark was a whale. Those things really existed,
Speaker 3: I mean thousands and thousands of years ago. So I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if some version of like a lock
Speaker 3: nests that could have been you know, some sort of
Speaker 3: descend into like dinosaurs, or some like deep sea crap
Speaker 3: existed and somebody saw it hundreds of years ago. And
Speaker 3: then you know, honey, Scottish people, they're storytellers, they're keeping
Speaker 3: the law alive.
Speaker 2: And this is this is Megladong, I met, I know
Speaker 2: megladong They go go dance at at Precinct on Thursdays.
Speaker 1: Please Megladong, I know the drag queen Megalodonna.
Speaker 2: Okay, I love.
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that I booked a marine biologist on
Speaker 1: the show today. That was impressive. You're welcome, well both
Speaker 1: of you. I think that's a bud enough for this time.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having us, Thanks for doing this.
Speaker 1: Of course, you guys touring, what are you doing? Where
Speaker 1: do you want people to see you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, come see us well in Sacramento and Houston
Speaker 3: and likely Peetown very soon. And then come see my
Speaker 3: Witches show if you're into this kind of spooky, gholie stuff.
Speaker 3: I do a whole fall Halloween comedy show about witches,
Speaker 3: touring really all over the world, if I'm being honest
Speaker 3: with you, and.
Speaker 2: I have a show in Toronto on the sixteenth of June.
Speaker 2: I'm headlighting at Comedy Bar amazing.
Speaker 1: Where do people find the ticket links and all.
Speaker 2: That in my Instagram link in bio.
Speaker 3: Same at t Murray zero six.
Speaker 2: And Michael Henry nine one.
Speaker 1: Fine, all right, well, bye bye bye. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much to Michael and Tim. Go check them out all
Speaker 1: that they do. They are so funny, both on their
Speaker 1: own and together. I love them. Hey, make sure you
Speaker 1: guys send me some ghost stories. I always love to
Speaker 1: have a bunch of stories in my email. Ghosted by
Speaker 1: Roz at gmail dot com. Have them nice Nason written
Speaker 1: out for me to read on the show. You know,
Speaker 1: not too long, but couple you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: paragraphs or something, maybe like something that could be a
Speaker 1: five minute read. Let's say, if you could just send
Speaker 1: that over to me. I love using them for the
Speaker 1: intros of the show. I love you all, both living
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareff, The Spooky, The Georgia Hardstart,
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.