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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Millman and today a pioneer in the

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Speaker 1: world of sports media, the original voice of sports Talk radio,

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Speaker 1: one of the first people who knew how to talk

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Speaker 1: gambling to be a regular on our national pregame show,

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Speaker 1: Mr Mike Francesa. Plus later in the show, the owner

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Speaker 1: of last year's Kentucky Derby winner, the family that famously

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Speaker 1: named a horse Kovifi after one of Donald Trump's tweets,

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Speaker 1: Jamie Roth of l n J foxwood Stables, is on

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Speaker 1: the show to discuss our name a thoroughbred contest we

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Speaker 1: did with her as part of the still running strong

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Speaker 1: campaign we are working on with the Breeders Cup in

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Speaker 1: America's Best Racing. The voting, the voting that you can

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Speaker 1: be involved in for the best name from our fans,

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Speaker 1: begins today. Check it out on our Twitter handle at

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Speaker 1: Action Network HQ. But first, Mike Francis, h Mike, you

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Speaker 1: are a famous horse player. I want to get to

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Speaker 1: Belmont this weekend because I know you know the ponies.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about golf because golf is back. Uh. However,

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Speaker 1: before that, despite the world shutdown, there are dozens of

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Speaker 1: topics that need your attentions. I got Uncut Gems, which

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Speaker 1: I loved, but before we get to that, I need

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Speaker 1: to get your take on baseball their reports right now

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Speaker 1: it is Wednesday afternoon, that it may be coming back,

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Speaker 1: But the bigger question is still gonna be why can't

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Speaker 1: this league get anything right? What is your take on

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Speaker 1: all this so far? Because there is great animosity and

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Speaker 1: great contempts between the two parties. They're both very powerful entities.

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Speaker 1: They both are worried about the long term. They're staring

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Speaker 1: down the barrel at an enormous collective boggaining negotiation, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to do anything that will unpack that.

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Speaker 1: And that is more important to both sides than anything

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Speaker 1: that is happening right now is that they get the

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Speaker 1: right deal for the next future generation. Uh, And they

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Speaker 1: don't want to do anything that impacts that. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to go wind up in the courts. They want

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Speaker 1: to make the right step for that reason. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the players have always killed the owners and in the courts,

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Speaker 1: them anywhere else. They've always won them in the court.

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Speaker 1: They were famous for that. I mean, so do my

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Speaker 1: they really distrust each other. And really it's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Players get paid. Well, it's a very strong union, but

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Speaker 1: the players have always felt that the owners make more

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Speaker 1: money than they admit to, which they do. They have

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Speaker 1: You know, these guys do tricky things like they say

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Speaker 1: also float large loans to themselves, pay them off with

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Speaker 1: while they appreciate dramatically, Uh, take the guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are guys who have board franchises, putting not a

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Speaker 1: and there's and there's just great distrust. I do think

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Speaker 1: It looks like they did make a mistake there looks

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Speaker 1: they can own it before the NBA can make a decision,

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Speaker 1: If you're sitting in a room with Rob Manfred, what

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Speaker 1: past economics when they try to come back. What happens

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Speaker 1: into this year. But what they've done so poorly is

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Speaker 1: But baseball doesn't care. I don't think they care about that.

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Speaker 1: important to him. And remember this about Manfred. People give

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Speaker 1: Manfred too much blame because he's an employee of the owners.

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Speaker 1: He's there to do the owners bidding. If the owners,

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Speaker 1: got two main jobs. The commissioner now in every sport,

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Speaker 1: big mistakes during this negotiation. He can't He made some

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Speaker 1: So you said something before about football being explaining sort

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Speaker 1: We don't mark time with football. But football plays to

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Speaker 1: us were a violent society. Unfortunately, football is a very

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Speaker 1: all about offense. It's become a very tough game for

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Speaker 1: what's your take on DraftKings and sort of the public

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Speaker 1: nature of bookmakers? Generally, stocks get ahead the idea of

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Speaker 1: stocks get ahead of how successful they are. As far

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Speaker 1: as businesses, businesses that don't make money, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of them on Wall Street who that idea of them. See,

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Speaker 1: Wall Street likes the future. Wall Street likes the idea

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Speaker 1: that's the future, and they will pay many times what

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Speaker 1: a stock is worth in value. There are many stocks

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Speaker 1: that don't make a dime that are two and three

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars a share. That's the way it works on

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Speaker 1: Wall Street. They're paying for the future. They're paying for

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. All right. So the premises that people think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be an enormous business, I think it will

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Speaker 1: be a good business. I don't think it will be

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Speaker 1: the runaway business that people think it will be, but

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Speaker 1: it will be for the couple of big players. They

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Speaker 1: will be big players, but remember most of them are

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Speaker 1: gonna be locked in as part of big conglomerates. You know,

447
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Speaker 1: MGM is gonna be a big player. Jeff Kings will

448
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Speaker 1: either stand alone or get taken over by somebody else

449
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Speaker 1: and be a very big player like pen Churchill downs

450
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Speaker 1: all these guys, they might gobble up these companies. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so you'll have three or four companies that will be

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Speaker 1: very big entities. They'll own casinos, they'll also on the

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Speaker 1: online because members something a big key is you gotta

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Speaker 1: be vetted to take bets. You have to be completely clean.

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Speaker 1: You have to be vetted. Everybody who works for you

456
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Speaker 1: has gotta be vetted. So that's a very hard thing

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Speaker 1: for companies to do. So that's why companies that have

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Speaker 1: already done it, whether it's an MGM of the Mohican

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Speaker 1: Son or whoever, they have a big leg up because

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Speaker 1: they've already done that process. So their employees are already

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Speaker 1: been been scrubbed. And that's a very hard process for

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Speaker 1: a regular company to do. So you've been betting a

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Speaker 1: long time, let's say, and you've been outspoken about I've

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Speaker 1: been betting since I was a teenager when I I

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Speaker 1: put myself through St. John's, when I used to go

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Speaker 1: to Belmont and handicapped. Correct, Oh, I didn't realize that's

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Speaker 1: how you put yourself through St. John's. Well, not even

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Speaker 1: put myself through. But you know what I had. I

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Speaker 1: used to have a job after after school. I used

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Speaker 1: to take classes from seven am till eleven am, and

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Speaker 1: then I used to go in the afternoon, late in

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Speaker 1: the afternoons with my job. And what I would do

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Speaker 1: is in between, I had some hours to kill. I

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Speaker 1: was writing a Belmont to go into Belmont. Well, I

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Speaker 1: started doing well enough in Belmont that I got rid

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Speaker 1: of my job because I wasn't making a lot of

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Speaker 1: money at my job anyway. So basically I just made

478
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Speaker 1: while I was in college and made the ponies my

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Speaker 1: my way of you know, putting money in my pocket.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I do want to get to Belmont

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Speaker 1: because that's perfect. But if New York you've been outspoken

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Speaker 1: about New York not legalizing betting and everyone going to

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Speaker 1: Jersey New York legalized betting, do you start betting with

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Speaker 1: the opera raiders that are here? Do you keep betting

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Speaker 1: with a bookmaker, with that with a book probably do

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Speaker 1: a little of both. Of Course, I'm not thrilled with

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Speaker 1: everybody knowing my business, you know. So the one thing

488
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Speaker 1: about that is people are gonna know everything you do.

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Speaker 1: There's a level of privacy that you get from the

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Speaker 1: bookmaker that you don't get from betting online. But what

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Speaker 1: I have an account with a draft Kings or sand

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Speaker 1: Dual or someone like that. Absolutely, yes, I think I

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Speaker 1: definitely would. I don't right now, but I would. What

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Speaker 1: is this sport? Obviously a horse racing. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to Bellman in a second. But horse racing has been

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Speaker 1: around it is basically hasn't stopped since the shutdown. What

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Speaker 1: are the sports you've missed betting on most since everything

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Speaker 1: is shut down? See, I'm a pure so. I love so.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to bet on a game to love

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Speaker 1: a game, though. I'm I'm a I'm a guy that

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Speaker 1: loves games. I love games. I'm a frustrated coach. I

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Speaker 1: love to think the game. That's what I like to do.

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Speaker 1: I love watching football games and and and thinking strategy

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Speaker 1: and analyzing the game. I love that. I love analyzing

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Speaker 1: basketball games, football games while they're being played. I I

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Speaker 1: really thoroughly enjoy that. So I don't have to have

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Speaker 1: a bet to enjoy the game. In any way, I'll

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Speaker 1: never have Baseball regular season game is can be a

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Speaker 1: little tedious, I admit that. But it's a great October

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Speaker 1: sport because what what hurts baseball in July enhances it

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Speaker 1: in October. Explain here's why. In July the five minute

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Speaker 1: if that is tedious, in October in the right spot,

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Speaker 1: the five minute that is suspended drama, the likes of

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Speaker 1: which you can't get anywhere else. Falling off the two

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Speaker 1: two pitch, the three two pitches outside, he fouls off

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Speaker 1: the three two pitch, the runners lead away, the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: So in in baseball, football the plays over. Beastball, the

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Speaker 1: plays over in baseball, it's almost suspended drama. It's almost drips.

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Speaker 1: There's so much drama, and you can almost slow it

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Speaker 1: down to where you can almost steal it and taste it.

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Speaker 1: And that's what gives. So what hurts baseball also helps

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Speaker 1: it in October. Baseball is a great postseason sport. Just

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Speaker 1: at t nhlis baseball and hockey to me, and not

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Speaker 1: great regular season sports. They're great post season sports. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised you didn't focus on golf. I love golf. I

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Speaker 1: mean I pay a golf as a tremendous betting vehicle

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Speaker 1: because the odds are so good. That's why horse racing

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Speaker 1: see horse racing, if you know what you're doing, is

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Speaker 1: so much better than sports. It's it's almost laughable because

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Speaker 1: I kind of like a horse to win, and I

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Speaker 1: can have two horses that I know one of these

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Speaker 1: two of them are going to run second, and I

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Speaker 1: get forty two or forty four hours for the exacta. Okay,

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Speaker 1: with the two horses, I'm gonna make twenty bucks. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make twenty two one on my money either way.

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Speaker 1: I mean you, I mean, what am I gonna do?

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna lay one ten to win to win

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Speaker 1: a hundred at least in football. And what they've done

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Speaker 1: recently is they've been tricky. They'll keep the game at

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Speaker 1: three and go one thirty. Of course they will go

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Speaker 1: to one thirty. Why not they make a fortune. So

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Speaker 1: you know, if if they only if they take in

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Speaker 1: the lass at one thirty and pay out the winner

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Speaker 1: at a dollar, they make unfortune. That's an insane splitter

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Speaker 1: should be criminals against the law to be able to

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Speaker 1: take that kind of split. The bottom line is in

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Speaker 1: horse tracing, the value is unbelievable. In golf, okay, And

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Speaker 1: I love analyzing. I analyze and waging on golf every week.

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Speaker 1: And I love the bet long shots okay, and I've

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Speaker 1: been I've been very good at it. And what I

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Speaker 1: use is recently i've been on I've waged every time,

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Speaker 1: kept I bet him in every every major. So that's

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Speaker 1: depths number one, number two. I like horses for courses.

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Speaker 1: I'll analyze guys who have played really well at a

555
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Speaker 1: place and it shows up they play well there all

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Speaker 1: the time. Perfect example, last week's speech, Speed didn't win

557
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Speaker 1: speech was playing like a dog, but because he plays

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Speaker 1: so well at Colonial, he was still in it with

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Speaker 1: them till the last day because he loves Colonial. Horses

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Speaker 1: for courses, guys playing tracks really works well in golf.

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Speaker 1: It pays off and and the payoffs are tremendous. You

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Speaker 1: can get fifty to one on a guy that can

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Speaker 1: actually win the golf tournament. I mean that's unbelievable money.

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Speaker 1: It really is. Well. Look this weekend, like Colin Morrikawa,

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Speaker 1: you had justin Rose Daniel Burger, like I know that

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Speaker 1: everybody I know was was on dated breath with every

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Speaker 1: single put that anybody took on the eighteen toll because

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Speaker 1: they all came so close, they were all lipping out.

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Speaker 1: There were fifty ft puts to get people in play. Well,

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Speaker 1: you saw a golf at its unbelievably torturous best too.

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Speaker 1: You saw your Kawa make a fifty footer on fifteen

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Speaker 1: and then miss a five foot slightly uphill on eight

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Speaker 1: team to win the tournament, and then to extend the

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Speaker 1: tournament miss a three footer. So and then you saw

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Speaker 1: and shortly make a forty footer for bogey and then

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Speaker 1: a twenty ft for birdie, and then he lipped out

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Speaker 1: on a two ft pots. I mean, how unbelievable is

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Speaker 1: that guy made forty and twenty six then you looked

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Speaker 1: out from two ft. That is great drama. And you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of good young players that can play now,

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Speaker 1: and in every one of these tournaments there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of action. The big advantage golf has got getting out

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Speaker 1: now in front. First of all, everybody's playing golf. The

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Speaker 1: golf courses are so packed now because people can get out.

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Speaker 1: Plus their kids don't have any events going on, so

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Speaker 1: they don't have any to do. So you've got people

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Speaker 1: playing golf all over the place, teaching people to play

588
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Speaker 1: golf or playing golf. You've got a lot of people

589
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Speaker 1: haven't played golf for trying to play golf, so they're

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Speaker 1: buying golf equipment. Plus, Dolf's gonna do well on TV

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Speaker 1: because they're out there when nothing else is on. That

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Speaker 1: golf tournament was exciting last week, It really was. It

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Speaker 1: was amazing and there were massive, massive, massive six figure

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Speaker 1: swings on some of these parts. How how did you

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Speaker 1: do last weekend? Who did you have and how did

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Speaker 1: it go for you? I bet Speef and Dustin Johnson

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Speaker 1: before the tournament. I bet Speek because of the course.

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Speaker 1: I bet Dustin Johnson because I've never seen Dustin Johnson one.

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Speaker 1: Even though Reed, who comes on at me, who really

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Speaker 1: know what's going on in golfings around the player said

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Speaker 1: Dustin Downton was not in shape. He goes, if you

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Speaker 1: know Dulston Johnson, you know he's got a reputation for

603
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Speaker 1: being a party boy, and you know that they probably

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Speaker 1: feel he hasn't done a lot of work, which he

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Speaker 1: probably hasn't. I mean, that's not his m O. He's

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Speaker 1: a party boy, so that's what his demos I mean,

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Speaker 1: but he likes to you know, I'm not a Rory guy.

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Speaker 1: I always play against Roy because you can't put I'm

609
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Speaker 1: not a Rory guy. And I know this about Kepta.

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Speaker 1: I will always bet Kepta in the majors. I don't

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Speaker 1: bet Kepta in the other tournaments because he doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: You gotta know that going in. So I bet those two.

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Speaker 1: But then he has the other part about golf. Come

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Speaker 1: back at the halfway point and looked at the odds again, okay,

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Speaker 1: and see who has a chance, and say, look at

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Speaker 1: the tournament again, and they will put odds up before

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Speaker 1: the Saturday round. They'll sometimes put him up on the

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Speaker 1: Sunday round, but most of the time that will really

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Speaker 1: favor the guys that are out in front. This past Sunday,

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Speaker 1: you had so many guys in it, it was a

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Speaker 1: little different. I wage it again on Saturday and actually

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Speaker 1: took Burger on Saturday because he had played, so I've

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Speaker 1: been so impressed with how he played. I took Burger

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Speaker 1: for the weekend, so I got lucky at one. I

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Speaker 1: didn't take any money on Murk. How although Reed was

626
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Speaker 1: pitching Miracaw like crazy, I didn't wag on him. I

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Speaker 1: did wager on Bree. I did wager on Burger at

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Speaker 1: to one on Saturday. It's not bad. I mean that

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Speaker 1: worked out. I'd say you got a little more than lucky.

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Speaker 1: Like that was just some good strategy right there. Because

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Speaker 1: he's been red hot. Yeah I've been he's been red hot,

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Speaker 1: so I thought he was worth it. Uh. The other

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Speaker 1: guy I would have waged on would have been Woodland,

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Speaker 1: but I took Burger because the odds was so much better.

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Speaker 1: Woodland was eight to one Burger one, So I took Burger.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Belmont for a few minutes,

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Speaker 1: because you mentioned it a couple of times, and it's

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Speaker 1: basically your home track, and it's the first leg of

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00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: the Triple Crown that's coming back, and you know they're

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00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: doing it all backwards this year. But uh tis the

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Speaker 1: lodge with the eight spot odds on favorite right now?

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Speaker 1: Six to five? What are your thoughts on the Belmont?

643
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Remember this is not a typical Belmont one a mile

644
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: and a half. YEP, racing is very different right now,

645
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: but I'll sell you this. I saw Tis the Law

646
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Breaker is may Eden at Saratoga last year. I was

647
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: there as the fans probably know. The ones who are

648
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: listening who know me know I'm a horse owner. I

649
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: have been for a very long time. I've own horses

650
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety. I started owning horses with both parcels

651
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: in the beginning, with own horses together. When he came

652
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: back to coach the Jets, the New York Times roaded

653
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: editorial that they felt it was not it was not

654
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: right that we owned courses together, that it was a

655
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: it was a conflicuentious so we split up us stable.

656
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: I went my way, he went his. As far as

657
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: ownership went, he's he's actually put more money into the

658
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: horse than I have in recent years. But I've had

659
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: a couple of good horses the last couple of years,

660
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: and I got a couple of good ones. Now so

661
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: does he. Uh not any triple Crown horses, but I

662
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: got a couple of good steak horses, and uh. But

663
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: I think Tis the Law was so visibly impressive last year.

664
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: I thought he was a superstar in the making. I

665
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything that can touch him. That's the people

666
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: had funny side this horses in New York read. I

667
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: don't think anybody touches this horse in this race now,

668
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: whether it win the Triple Crown. Let's see, this is

669
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: a very different year then was being running a very

670
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: different way. It's a very peculiar year. Everything has changed,

671
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: so it's hard they really get bearings on horses that

672
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: are going to travel a lot and just ad distance

673
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: to the Belmont is so much different. But I think

674
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: this horse, I'll never tell you to been on his

675
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: own horse ever, but I think as far as do

676
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: I think this horse is gonna win this race, I do.

677
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: I think he right now is a complete standout. Let's

678
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: go back to the Purcels thing for a second. Like

679
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: you're a big personality, he's a big personality. If you

680
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: guys have a difference of opinion about something in owning

681
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: the horses, how do you guys settle that If we

682
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: ever had a difference of opinion as to where we

683
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: wanted to run a horse or who the trainer was.

684
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean we we talked about it. I knew more

685
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: about horse racing than he did, especially then. Uh, he

686
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: was kind of new to the sport. I had been

687
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: around it for a while I I introduced him to

688
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: the sport. I took him to Saratoga for the first time.

689
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: He now has fallen in love with Saratoga. He goes

690
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: there every year, um uh. And he has got a

691
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: very successful stable on his own. He also has spent

692
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: a lot of time around the track. He has a

693
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of train of friends now and you know, and

694
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: jockey friends. He's been very involved in the business for

695
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: many years now and he knows a lot about it.

696
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: He didn't end from the beginning. I think he listened

697
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: to what my thoughts were. Now I think he has

698
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: his own opinions, so it's probably better that we're split up.

699
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: But listen, I have a partner now, uh, Leon Slider,

700
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: who is the costume you get tequila guy. Um. He

701
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: and I own seven horses together and we get a

702
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: long time. I mean, we don't have anyway we have.

703
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember seven having the scoop. We you know,

704
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: we have a very good trainer in Bill Mont. He's

705
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: a great trainer and most of the time he's gonna

706
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: make the decisions. You know. I don't tell the trainer

707
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: on what to do. I mean, I'm not one of

708
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: these owners that says that I know more about the

709
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: horse and Bill than Bil Montos. I know that I

710
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: don't know more about the horse and Billmontos. All right,

711
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: so let's say today, this is my last question for you.

712
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: Let's say today Bill Parcels is coaching the Jets of

713
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: the Giants. You own horse race, you own horses with him,

714
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: and somebody writes, are not bad, that it's a conflict

715
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: of interest. Do you sell the horses or do you

716
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: think it's a different time today. It's not that it was.

717
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: It was basically our relationship had We had gotten very

718
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: close when he coached the Giants. We got close when

719
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: he went to the Pages, we were exceptionally close. And

720
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: when he came back to coach the Jets, there was

721
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: a feeling that we were so close that it wasn't

722
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: that it would be. It was just something that I

723
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: think it was easier to him if it happened. Uh

724
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: So I didn't have an issue with it. Uh so.

725
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Uh it came up right away, and I said, hey,

726
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: no problem. It was. It was not a big issue.

727
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: We only had like three horses at the time, so

728
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: it was really not a big really not a big issue.

729
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, it was when he came

730
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: back to the Jets that we split up the stable.

731
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: He kept the stable name. We uh we we you

732
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: know we we had a couple of horses. We split

733
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: the horses, we sold, I think we so. I remember

734
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: it's a long time ago. We split the horses. We

735
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: had a couple of decent horses. Personal girl, uh Nickel

736
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: defense um. And he kept the stable name. He won

737
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: the stable name. He kept the color his august Don farm,

738
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: that's his farm. That was awess in the beginning. I

739
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: switched to my kids initials, which is what it is now.

740
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Uh and no big deal. But it's so long ago now,

741
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: it's remember that's the Jets. We're nineteen. I think was

742
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: for ninety five. Might have been his first GM. To

743
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: remember now how long ago it was, whatever it was,

744
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: So it's a long time ago. This was fantastic. I'd

745
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: like to hear your talking about gambling all day. Well,

746
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's a funny thing, you know, it's it's

747
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: so different now. It's gonna be treated so differently now

748
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: in the future, it's gonna come out of the shadows.

749
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: Remember I just saw yesterday that the Denver Broncos have

750
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: a relationship now a business relationship with vandel right then

751
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: they just announced it the relationship with FanDuel. Can you admage?

752
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that if people has helped me spinning

753
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: in his grave? I mean, can you imagine that a

754
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: a betting site has a relationship with the Denver Bronco's Okay,

755
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a day chat where they're are going

756
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: to be at your seat. You're gonna be able to

757
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: wager on every play. You're gonna be able to wage

758
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: your on every batter They will first be portals or

759
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: a little enclaves at the stadium where you'll go and

760
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: wage you like, you'll go into a little there'll be

761
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: a little area where you'll go and wager, and then

762
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 1: eventually they'll get them to most of the box seats.

763
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: And then they'll get them to a lot of the

764
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: seats maybe in the bleaches in the outfield, you might

765
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: have to go to the portal because they can't get

766
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: it to every seat. In the luxury areas, they'll get

767
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: them to every seat and you will be able to

768
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: wager every batterer. You will be able to wage you

769
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: because people, I think understand that every time out now,

770
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: every commercial there is a change embedding now online where

771
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: you can wag your on an NFL game. Every single

772
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: break they put up a new line on the game.

773
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: Now it's based on what the score is. So let's

774
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: say it's seventeen in the first quotable, that team might

775
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: be my nineteen and a half of the rest of

776
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: the game, and you take them where you don't take

777
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: them in the bottom line. I mean, that's so that's

778
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 1: how it works. Gonna make come back and take the talk.

779
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Uh you think they're gonna blow them out, you take

780
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: the favorite. So uh that that's how it works. It's

781
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: changing so radically there is it is. The one thing

782
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be careful though, is policing it.

783
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna be something they can't afford. Scandals. People can't

784
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: think the games are on the level. That's the one

785
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: thing that can't ever happen because if that happens, it's

786
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: a slippery slope to ruin that that the rue nation.

787
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that can't happen, Uh, is they

788
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: can't think that anybody's out there when the boy gets

789
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: humbled that you know, and people always think that anyway,

790
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: But they can't make it to where they really believe

791
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: that stuff, because when that happens, it will destroy the

792
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: sports and it will destroy the revenue based. These teams

793
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: now are bought, these franchises now are bought, and they

794
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: are using gambling revenues as part of the equation, extreaming revenues.

795
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: Gambling revenues, that's how big they will be in the future.

796
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: Every league has all kinds of things set up that's

797
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: to how they will participate in the years to come.

798
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: There's no league that isn't already involved and will be

799
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: involved in a very big way. Well, I hope so, man,

800
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: because I can tell you this business it probably feels

801
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: to us. I bet what it felt like to you

802
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: when you were starting with f A N Like it's

803
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: a brand new, wide open space where you know it

804
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: can be something special and that you're getting there before

805
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: anybody else. The excitement is sort of the pioneering spirit

806
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: certainly lends itself to all of the things that you

807
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: just mentioned with everybody thinking about from a DraftKings valuation

808
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: to the valuation of a football team because of where

809
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: gambling is going, Well, look at the acceptance of Draft Kings.

810
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Kings came on the board at and already today

811
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: was and they just went in and double dip. They

812
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: went in and just and just sold some more stock. Yeah,

813
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: they wanted to create and got themselves someone they got

814
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: a little greedily went in and decided, you know what,

815
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: come first to issue some more chefs. So already they're

816
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: doing that to raise more capital. They know they're hot

817
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: right now. Their stock has doubled in a couple of months,

818
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: so it shows you the acceptance level. And let's be honest,

819
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: if you look at pen the stock has done really well.

820
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: If you look at Churchill Downs, the stock has done

821
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: really well. So these companies are being treated very, very

822
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 1: favorably right now by the investment community. My friends, thanks

823
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: so much man for coming on the podcast. Yeah, my

824
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: pleasure be well. Next up on the podcast as promised,

825
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Jamie Roth. Everybody knows we are working with the Breeders

826
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: Cup and America's Best Racing this month on a campaign

827
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: called Still Running Strong because horse racing honestly has been

828
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: resurgent during the pandemic shutdown. We've been having a blast

829
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: with it on a daily basis. At Action. We had

830
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: an idea for contest on Twitter where fans can name

831
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: their own thoroughbred. It's running now. The winner will be

832
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: announced on Saturday morning and in time to get some

833
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: free bets from tv G for the Belmont, and so

834
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: we needed a volunteer. We needed an actual horse to name.

835
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Speaker 1: Jamie Roth, one of the owners of l n J.

836
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Speaker 1: Foxwood Stables, graciously offered to let our fans name one

837
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: of her thoroughbreds for our Name your Horse contest. Jamie

838
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: is on with me now, Jamie, I gotta tell you,

839
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: like we posted this, this is Tuesday. We're recording. We

840
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: posted this on Monday and immediately started getting like great responses.

841
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Were you surprised? No, I think people love the idea

842
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: of naming horses. It's a way for them to get

843
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: involved in the sport without owning a horse. It was

844
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: interesting to see a lot of the names. Some are

845
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: really clever. Which ones did you like so far? Money

846
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: Printer was funny. You're gonna have to vote at some

847
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: point on who the winner is, so we'll announce that.

848
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: We'll announced that on Saturday. You and your parents started

849
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: l n J Foxwoods in two thousand twelve. How did

850
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: you guys get into it? It was mostly me bringing

851
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: an idea to my parents. I had met Alex Solie

852
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: back at Delmar in two thousand and twelve, spoke to

853
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: him for a while about wanting to get into the sport,

854
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: had no idea how to do it. He gave me

855
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: some ideas based on things that I wanted to do,

856
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: for instance, breeding, working more with phillies than colts. Obviously,

857
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people know I loved great

858
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: child Alexandra, so that was the female aspect of wanting

859
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: to get involved. He immediately came up with a game plan.

860
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: He is a go getter. Presented it to my parents

861
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas because they happened to be there. He

862
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: flew from California to Vegas. I'm lucky I have parents

863
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: who really supported an idea of mine, as well as

864
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: ideas of my brothers and other industries. I think. A

865
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: month later was Keenland sale. He bought four brood Mares

866
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: and the rest is history. Explain to people who Alex

867
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: is number one, and then explained like why you were

868
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: even interested in this space? So Alex sols Jr. Is

869
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: the son of Alex Solise, Hall of Fame jockey. I

870
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: got into the sport simply because I watched Rachel Alexandra

871
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: competing against the boys, and when I was younger, I

872
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: hate I don't like to be conceded. But I was

873
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: a great athlete, and there weren't many women's teams to

874
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: play on that were competitive enough for me. So I

875
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: played against the boys in soccer specifically, and it was hard.

876
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: I got a lot of crap, a lot of boys.

877
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: I thought I played defense that that could just go

878
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: around me and they and they couldn't most of the time.

879
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: And the parents of the of the boys, I don't

880
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: know if they were embarrassed, but just didn't like it.

881
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: And so I felt a connection to Rachel. What did

882
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: you know about it? Though? Like when you were deciding

883
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: you're going to get into this space, did you how

884
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: much did you know? I've been a sports fan my

885
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: whole entire life. ESPN was basically the only channel on

886
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: in my in my room him, so I knew about

887
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: most sports. As far as racing goes, I was probably

888
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: like like most people. I watched the Triple Crown races.

889
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even know about the Breeders Cup then or

890
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: other racetracks. I watched the Derby, Preakness, said Belmont, just

891
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: because I was a sports fan, and it was on TV,

892
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: so that was basically all I knew. I knew names,

893
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: Rachel Curlin, REGs to Riches, the big names. So I

894
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: was an average fan at best. Um, but I watched

895
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: the show Jockeys. I don't know how I came across it.

896
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I just was looking for a new show.

897
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved the behind scenes of how

898
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: how jockey's lived their lives, and through Jockeys, I became

899
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: familiar with other horses Zinn YadA and the competition between

900
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: Nata and Rachel. Really I thought was so interesting. East Coast,

901
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: West coast. So that's that's how I got into it really.

902
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: And then when you first start buying horses, I mean,

903
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: if you're really getting into it just from sort of

904
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: watching tell levision and stuff, how eye opening was the

905
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: experience in terms of what you were looking for. Well,

906
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: that's an interesting question because I got into it because

907
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 1: of the racing aspect. But the idea with Alex was

908
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: breeding because you can always fall back on on the

909
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: phillies in case they're not what you expect on the track.

910
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: You have a you have that financial fallback. And we

911
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: were lucky because when we went to Keenland. The market

912
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: was still recovering from the recession. We were able to

913
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: buy for brood mares that were well bred, and it

914
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: was exactly who Alex's plan. If they couldn't make it

915
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: to the track where there was issues, we could fall

916
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: back and breed it out of them or sell them.

917
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: So it was interesting. It wasn't racing really, it was

918
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: more breeding. My dad got really into racing and that's

919
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: how things change, all right. So the horse that we're

920
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: naming is the great grandson of Secretariat, right, and you

921
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: talk about like the value chain of sort of the

922
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: hereditary nature of these horses. When you see something like

923
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: this doesn't make it feel more valuable to you. Can

924
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: you separate sort of the name from the jeens? Not really.

925
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Obviously you hope that the pedigree pans out, but as

926
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: everyone knows, in this sport, it's hard to even make

927
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: it to the races. So of course you hope that

928
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: a well bred cult will take you to the big races,

929
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: as as most people hope and become a Staalian, but

930
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: that rarely happens. But the whole point is to breed

931
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: a well bred horse if they don't make it to

932
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: the stallion aspect. Hopefully they can they could be a

933
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: good runner on the track at high levels. But yeah,

934
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: the idea was to buy the mayor Mystery Strike because

935
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: she's a daughter of Mystery Trip. And sometimes you're just

936
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: hoping to get that one, that one culture, that one

937
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Philly to just carry on the line. I mean it's hard.

938
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: Very few brood mares continue to throw great at stakes winners.

939
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: The Dinner Revel I know you spoke to and we

940
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: did a story with you wrote a few weeks ago

941
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 1: about the most expensive horse that was ever bought and

942
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 1: the bidding war that went on for this horse, Grusiagy

943
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: Pegasus goes for seventy million dollars. Like in the seven

944
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: years you guys have been doing this. Now you see

945
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: prices getting bit up, the markets are exploding, and those

946
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: explain like what it's like to be in sort of

947
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: the bidding process a horse that you really want. Well,

948
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: if you're in this sport, you're competitive, right, I was

949
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: competitive as and actually you you you I hate to

950
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: use the word wind when it comes to bidding war,

951
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: but you want to you want to win. You want

952
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: obviously if you're bidding for you really want that horse.

953
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't think sometimes my bloodstock agents want my family

954
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: there just because my mom will say more bit more bid.

955
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: At some point though, you have to you have a

956
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: price on that horse, and you may go up fifty

957
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand, whatever increments it is. You have to

958
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: have a bottom line else it gets out of control.

959
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're there, it's excitement. You know you

960
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: want that horse. Your Bloodstucke agents have done all the work, vetting,

961
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: everything else that goes along with having a horse on

962
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: your short list, so they've obviously jumped through the hoops

963
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: and you want that horse. So it's competitive, it's exciting,

964
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: it's exhilarated. So you guys had a massive year in

965
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: two thousand. Explain to people what happened on the track

966
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: for you guys. Two big races that you want in

967
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. Obviously we'll start with Coffeffi. She's a

968
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 1: great story. She she broke her maiden. Maybe the hype

969
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: was there first time out. We we flew to Churchill

970
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: actually to see her race, which we we rarely do.

971
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: She as they announced, he said, Trump the competition. I

972
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: think most people know she got her name Donald Trump's

973
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: infamous midnight tweet a friend of mine in California, New

974
00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: I loved naming horses after interesting comments, so he actually

975
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: reserved the name for me. Called me in the morning,

976
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: he said, here you have it. We had it on

977
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: reserved it. It just worked out perfectly for a horse

978
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: with talent, the damn antics, the sire into mischief, it

979
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,439
Speaker 1: all just worked. She broke her maiden impressively. We think

980
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: we ran her back too short in the Frizette. We

981
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: were disappointed. She went off the favorite, and when you

982
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: win your first race the way she did, your hoping

983
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: for another big effort. But shipping her to Belmont on

984
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: a tough track, it was, you know, we were disappointed,

985
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: but we gave her time off. She went back to

986
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: the mccathin brothers who broke her as a two year old.

987
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: We were just hoping that she got back to form.

988
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: She ran a Keenland and allowance race. It was it

989
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: was a good race. It wasn't oh my god. But

990
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: then the mis preakness happened and it was everything we thought.

991
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: She was, I mean, breaking the track record. She didn't

992
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: even look like she was right. I mean, she she

993
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: she looked like she was in air. It was such

994
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: an impressive race, and that's when we knew, yeah, we

995
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: we have that horse. Then you know, she went on

996
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: to win the Test against a really great I mean

997
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: against the Kentucky Oaks winner, and then the dog would

998
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: and obviously the Breeders Cup. From the one post, it's

999
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: everything you want to accomplish in the sport. It was

1000
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: the most amazing feeling in the world, really, and then,

1001
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: of course a couple of races later united in the

1002
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: Breeders Cup. I don't even I can't even think of

1003
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: the actual name of the race. But we knew he

1004
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: was gonna run a big race. I know the odds were,

1005
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, forty to one or something, but he had,

1006
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: he had been training so great. I honestly was not

1007
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: surprised how he ran and man if first and Mortar

1008
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: doesn't get out, he wins the Breeders Cup. So just

1009
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: an amazing day and obviously Country House everyone knows the

1010
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: story there. I don't want to get into the stewards.

1011
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: But again another course, we knew was going to run

1012
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: a big race. I don't know why I didn't bet him.

1013
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: I don't like to bet my own horses. But once

1014
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: Flavian got him in the race, and he wasn't in

1015
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: the back, which usually is. I I've had a good

1016
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: feeling and I think we know the rest of history

1017
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: had a ran wide. He ran, you know, for a

1018
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: great trainer, and it was difficult. It was hard to

1019
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: win the derby that way. Really. People don't get that,

1020
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: but I've always said, I think the connections had, you know,

1021
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: the McFadden's shields. My my family handled it a ton

1022
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 1: of class and we're proud of him. So so Country

1023
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: House wins the Kentucky Derby. It was a controversial ending.

1024
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: It's played a little bit for people like what it's

1025
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: like when you're in it, because not everyone sort of

1026
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: remember or understanding like you're so specifically in the middle

1027
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: of that. We were on the box watching it and

1028
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: for that moment you're you're just like, holy crap, I'm

1029
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: going to win the Kentucky Derby. And then Maximum Security

1030
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: gets in front of him. We were thrilled with second.

1031
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: I had videos of us basically crying. I mean, he

1032
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: ran the race of his life, so we were we

1033
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: were thrilled. And then the inquiry comes up, and I

1034
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: feel when you're watching a race from you know, the

1035
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: side and not head on it's really hard to see

1036
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: what the horses are doing. I remember talking to Madison Scott,

1037
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: who works with us now she's awesome. She said, there's

1038
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: there's They're just there. There's no way they're taking him down.

1039
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: But I again, I don't think any of us. So

1040
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: the angles and the longer it went on, you start

1041
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: Usually when it's longer, you know that a change may happen.

1042
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: Guinness and Lisa mcfadd and the majority owners of the

1043
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: horse went down just to be with the jockey, then

1044
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: trainer and just in case he got put up, and

1045
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: of course we all know he did and it was insane,

1046
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: it really I don't even remember the whole celebration on

1047
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: the track or in the area where the derby winner

1048
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: walks around, but that must have a big deal on

1049
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: if you're in the breeding business. Your horse went to

1050
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby like that must have a huge impact

1051
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: on stud fees for that horse. Now right, well, it's

1052
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: tough with him because afterwards he got pneumonia out of

1053
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: the race and had some other issues and unfortunately we

1054
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: didn't get to raise him again, which really was disappointing

1055
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. One you want to prove

1056
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 1: to the world, to the world that he was worthy

1057
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: of being a Derby champion. He was a horse that

1058
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: was bred to get better in time, he was still

1059
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: growing into his body. He would have won big races

1060
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: going forward, and of course that would have increased his

1061
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: stallion value. But because of how things went down, you know,

1062
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: obviously his stallion the hell you isn't maybe as high

1063
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: as it could have been. But we're we're going to

1064
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Speaker 1: give him a chance. We're gonna breed to him. I

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Speaker 1: don't think let's mentioned where he's gonna stand, and I'm

1066
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Speaker 1: not obviously going to mention that if it's not public,

1067
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Speaker 1: but there's no reason why he can't hit it. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: all right. So you've got country House and you've got

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Speaker 1: KVIFI in two thousand nineteen and Vifi like we're doing

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Speaker 1: this contest with you. We were super excited because you're

1071
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Speaker 1: so original and how you name the horses you mentioned

1072
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Speaker 1: like a friend of yours registered for you overnight after

1073
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: Trump tweeted that sort of nonsensical phrase. And it just

1074
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Speaker 1: happens to be like the perfect marriage of name that

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Speaker 1: gets attention and horse that is really really good. You know,

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Speaker 1: I always think good horses made great names. But in

1077
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: this case, you know, it was already a great name

1078
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: and it just happened to work out in every aspect.

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Speaker 1: And I can't tell you how much that never happens.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it did. I'm not even going

1081
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Speaker 1: to question it. It just was, it was. It was perfect.

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Speaker 1: She's a fan favorite. I absolutely love it. That's how

1083
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Speaker 1: I got into the sport. So for me, it's full circle.

1084
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Speaker 1: So explain to people like, we've got now got this

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Speaker 1: horse and before you go, we've got the grant great

1086
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: grandson of Secretariat that you own, and that a fan

1087
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Speaker 1: is going to name. What are your expectations here? Well,

1088
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: obviously a creative name, I hope, because if I was

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Speaker 1: my family was naming him, I'm sure that it would

1090
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Speaker 1: be it would be good. So I hope that someone

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Speaker 1: comes up with a really clever name, because I think

1092
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Speaker 1: all horses, no matter what their talent level is, deserved

1093
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: great names. There's nothing that bothers me more than just

1094
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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe those names are important to that person.

1095
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's some of them just don't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. Well, listen, I hope our fans don't

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Speaker 1: let you down, thank you, thank you very much for

1098
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Speaker 1: giving everyone of the chance to do this. Um, it's

1099
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Speaker 1: really cool. Someone's gonna have a blast. Or that they've

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Speaker 1: named a thoroughbred for the owners of some pretty high

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Speaker 1: profile horses that want some pretty big races. So Jamie,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming out. Yeah, it's exciting. I think it's

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Speaker 1: great for the sports. So someone come up with a

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Speaker 1: good name. This has been the favorites from the Action Network.

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