1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, loves Bill. Welcome to another 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: additionally Around the NFL podcast, presented by the United States 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Marine Corps. My name is Dan Hands as I'm joining 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: the room filled with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left, 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Greg Roshalt in my right. What is up? Boys? A 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: little three man weave today. Mark Seessler back in the infirmary, 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: so hopefully get him back on Thursday. Well, he wouldn't 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: have appreciated that money drop anyway. No, that was teed 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: up for him to make some type of dig about 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the length of the baseball season which could end uh tonight. 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: And I bet it no matter what happens tonight in baseball, 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: and I'll have a little more sizzle to it than 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: this trade deadline. Trade deadline Tuesday, Yes, we waited it 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: out until it was clear. And yeah, in a year 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: where there were twenty trades since week one, one hundred 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: three trades in two thousand nineteen overall before that, twenty 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: trade since week one is up from eleven last year. 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: And you know, we had a couple of big trades 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: yesterday with a Jets Giants trade for the first time ever, 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: a notable running back on the move you thought that 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: some big monster happenings would go down in the final 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: hour leading to the deadline with some big names. Just 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: never happened that way. So uh, maybe not as an 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: explosive a trade deadline, but still more fun than it 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: used to be. Yeah. I get the people who are upset, 26 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: but I remember the days when like Will Witherspoon, a 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: random linebacker was the biggest trade of the week, or 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: Jonathan Cassius going to the Patriots. Right, we'll get to it. 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: But the players that weren't traded were also very and 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: it was interesting just to hear who has floated, who's 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of things. I think if the 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: NFL really wanted to and Kevin Patrick, our old friend 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: uh coming at you, you know, pointed this out, they 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: would have to move. If they really wanted the trade 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: deadline to sizzle, you'd push it back a little bit. 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: And they have pushed it, but push it back even 37 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And the compensatory pick formula is 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: really what's holding it down. So let's say Robbie Anderson, 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: for instance, a guy the Jets really don't have much 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: use for. I don't think they want to keep him 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: next year. There'd be happy to trade him, but they're 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: only gonna get a fourth round pick for him. Here's 43 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: a starter. They're gonna get a third round pick in 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: one in the compensatory pick formulas. It just doesn't like 45 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: make sense, like why do it? And I think that's 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: prevented some of these trades. But what the reason that 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: that policy is an effect is to protect teams that 48 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: lose their assets against their own will. Right, So it's 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: not something we want to get rid of, right. It's 50 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: also something that people all use as an excuse sometimes 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: if they want to make a trade, they'll make a trade. 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: Leandard Williams was part of that and he got traded. 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: I've never thought about it, but I think there is 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: an argument that you could reduce the impact of all 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: the compensatory picks. At this point, it was made in 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: a very different structure of the NFL where players really 57 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: weren't changing team and teams were so overprotected in terms 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: of keeping all their great players. And that's fine, but 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: maybe they want to be a little more like baseball 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: and basketball and embrace uh players leaving teams. It's happening anyways, 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: all right, So we have a lot to get to 62 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: coming up today's show, we have Yes, the Standard Fair, 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the Monday Night Football Recap, we have the Thursday Night 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Football Preview Week nine. Um, but we're gonna dig in 65 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: on other news, and there's some big news around the league, 66 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: including a I believe seven years starter whose reign is 67 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: coming to an end for his uh I believe it's 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: the Midwest that he plays in football team. We'll get 69 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: to that. We have a Super Bowl m v P 70 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: that is heading to the sideline. Is it an injury 71 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: or is it a benching? Drums a firing and of 72 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: an O C the kicker corner the club is going off. 73 00:03:53,880 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: But first let's get to the trade deadline news. All right, Oh, 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: what did happen? Let's start with the New York Jets, 75 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: who were the team that was most in the news 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: both yesterday because they made a trade, but today because 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: of the names that were floated. Levan Bell reported by 78 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: the Daily News was being shopped. Never happened. Jamal Adams, 79 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: reported by ESPN and then confirmed elsewhere, was on the move. 80 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: Potentially the Cowboys were very interested. Didn't happen, And we'll 81 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: get into that in a bit, but let's start with 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: what did happen. Leonard Williams, their former first round pick 83 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: um of two thousand and fifteen, very solid defensive lineman 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: that never really lived up to the hype which was J. J. 85 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Watt Esq at the time. He gets moved to the 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: Giants for the first time ever. I kid you not. 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: The Jets and Giants do a trade so Williams doesn't 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: have to move his house or his condo or whatever 89 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: he stays in town in Jersey. Uh. The Jets get 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: back a third round pick and a fifth round on 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: pick for Williams, which feels like good composition compensation considering 92 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams is headed toward free agency and is also 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: a guy that production wise is not really popped and 94 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: flourished the way people thought he would west after the trade, 95 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: as seems to happen every time the Giants make a 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: a sizey move in this league, people scratching their heads 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: and asking if Dave Gettleman knows what he's doing. Yeah, 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: this whole run the bone and defend the run philosophy 99 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: he's got going the hog Molly's which he you know, 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: his philosophy going back to his Carolina Panthers days. I 101 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: guess it's the fact that Leonard Williams is a free 102 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: agent after this season and he's going to a team 103 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: clearly and rebuild that has people wondering what the hell 104 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: was going on. I don't hate it for the Giants. 105 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: I think the I like it for the Jets. You know, 106 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: it's kind of a no brainer. I'm sure in their 107 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: in their dreams, they would have gotten slightly more. He 108 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: didn't have that sort of value because of what you said, Dan, 109 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: that he's been a little disappointed and he's he's entering 110 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: free so they got that. They took the best offer 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: they could. They got some value for him. Good for 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: the Jets. I don't mind it for the Giants because 113 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: they're getting them for eight games, and you wouldn't do 114 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: it unless you had a strong interest. I believe in 115 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: resigning him and they get to see how he fits 116 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: and maybe they can unlock some of that potential that 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,119 Speaker 1: all these draft experts thought was can't miss difference maker, 118 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: quality starters at the at the very worst. And here's 119 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: all they gave up if he does leave is a 120 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: third and a fifth and they probably get a third 121 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: round pick in one back. In terms of the compensatory pick, formulas. 122 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: So it's just a fifth to try him out. Now. 123 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I think in Gettleman's heart, he wants to pay Lenny 124 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: and he loves him, and he wants he wants Leonard 125 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Williams to play great the next eight weeks, and it 126 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: I think there's a it's fair to question whether they 127 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: need him. They have Dalvin Tomlinson and Dexter Lawrence and 128 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: b J. Hill, but Leonard Williams is maybe in his 129 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: in his mind, a better pass right and so you're 130 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: not giving up much to try what It's hard to 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: get premium talent and maybe Leonard Williams could still do it. 132 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: He's twenty five years old. Yeah, that's the thing. Where 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: does he play? Like you said, they already have three guys. 134 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: That's I think that's another reason why people are like, 135 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: why why did you make this trade? He's playing defensive 136 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: end in a three four and he's starting, and you know, 137 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: and so who gets benched one of the other three 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: guys that they kept fairly more on the interior. Yeah, 139 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: and you're rotating it's it's defensive line. It is strange. 140 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: It is he a guy that you want to give 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars a year or whatever he's gonna cost. 142 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: That's probably the bigger question. I don't mind the trade 143 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: because I think it was fairly low stakes for the Giants. 144 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: I feel like if from the Giant side and Giants fans, 145 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: and I'm friends with a lot of Giants fans that 146 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: are asking the questions that a lot of people are asking, 147 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams really is. He could be a disruptor. He 148 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: just has not piled up the numbers. But the Jets 149 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: never did a good job, and we this has become 150 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: its own cliche. The Jets haven't had a real pass 151 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: rusher since John Abraham in thousand five. Well, that's true, 152 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: and maybe if you actually had an edge presence that 153 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: would unlock Leonard Williams. However, that was what you were 154 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: supposed to be getting from Leonard Williams. You were supposed 155 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: to be getting a guy that was a self contained 156 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: nightmare that would blow up the opposition game plans. And 157 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: it just never happened. And the Jets were patient and 158 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: waited and waited, and and we know Todd Bowles not 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: a great head coach, but he had him for multiple 160 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: years and couldn't get the best out of him. Greg 161 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: Williams spoke highly of him this summer. Couldn't get the 162 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: best out of him. Perhaps the Giants do, but I 163 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: think he might be just another guy, right. He seems 164 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: like a slight an above average starter though, which guys, 165 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: I think that's which cost a lot of money on 166 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: the free agency market. So it's not what you hope 167 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: to get with the number six pick overall in the 168 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: draft above average starter. You hope to get a Hall 169 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: of Famer, absolutely all right? And uh so, yeah, I 170 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: mentioned it, Jamal Adams. This report comes out a couple 171 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: hours before the deadline that the Jets have made him available, 172 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: and shortly after that, the Cowboys emerge as the team 173 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: that they would do business with potentially. And I saw 174 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: a report and I wish I could say who it 175 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: came from, but that the Cowboys were willing to offer 176 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: a first but the Jets wanted more. It was also 177 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: said there was another report that the Ravens got in 178 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: the mix and they were interested. Okay, a little Jamal 179 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: Adams Earl Thomas h tag team interesting, But obviously that 180 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't happen because where we are now and it's now 181 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: thirty one minutes after the trade deadline, we haven't heard 182 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: anything about Adams moving, so he stays put. And um, 183 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: there were a lot of questions Greg about this as well, 184 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: why would the Jets even think about moving Jamal? Well, 185 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams. But from what I've been following in certain 186 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: beat writers that you learned to trust me, rich Smini 187 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: has been dropping breadcrumbs for weeks that there's been a 188 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: change to Jamal Adams this season. And this guy came 189 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: into the league. Uh, this is his third season. He's 190 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: known nothing but punishing, losing, embarrassing losing, and he's an 191 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: exuberant guy. And it's it's Uh, there was some you 192 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: know what happened that Monday night football game against the 193 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: Browns where they benched him and that was embarrassing and 194 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: a hit to his pride. He just perhaps it's a 195 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: situation where he wanted a fresh start. Ryan clark Um, 196 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: former former NFL player who know is with ESPN, said 197 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: he had spoken to Jamal Adams who said that he 198 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: wanted to go home to Texas and played for the Cowboys. 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: So maybe even if this trade doesn't happen, that Jamal Adams, 200 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: who was picked by the Mike mccagnan regime, will be 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: moved eventually, maybe in the off season. But from my standpoint, 202 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: I'm hoping this allows cooler heads to prevail because the 203 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: Jets have a hell of a rebuild in front of him. 204 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is a guy. You want your building to 205 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: be part of that, right. I mean, you're not going 206 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: to get better trade anyway. You're great players. It's so 207 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: hard to find them, even your good players, and Jamal Adams, 208 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: I think, is a step above that. It is fascinating 209 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys were willing to give up at first. 210 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: That's been confirmed locally, but it sounds like the Jets 211 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: were holding out for two I don't blame anyone here. 212 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: I don't blame Jamal Adams for not really publicly but 213 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: having some frustration with with the Jets. I don't blame 214 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: the Jets for seeing for shooting for the moon but 215 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: not dealing him, because I think that's what it should 216 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: take to get a player like Jamal Adams and the 217 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys that that's a lot. It's a lot to give up. 218 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: You're asking a guy to learn your system in the 219 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: middle of the year. That's a big swing. I think 220 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: cooler heads did prevail. I just don't think there's any 221 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: reason the trade Jamal Adams in the offseason. Either. If 222 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan, I want that coach and staff 223 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: out of here. Don't get rid of my good players, 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: get rid of the coaches who have not proven to 225 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: be great coaches. Well, and we heard so we heard 226 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Levan Bell was available today, that was reported. Uh, not 227 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: a nibble. And this is why. And I don't wanna 228 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: keep piling on, but this is why we were so 229 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: hard on the Jets when they fired mccagney. Not for 230 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: firing mcagney, but the timing that owners. If there's one 231 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: thing NFL owners I feel like should have learned over 232 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, it's just like the one thing 233 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: you gotta do is just have your coach and your 234 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: GM aligned and have them together, whether they're hired together 235 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: or one helps the high irenea the other, whatever it is, 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: have that all work. Because this is what happens. Then 237 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: then Gaye and Joe Douglas didn't want Bell. They just 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: signed Bell. Who knows about Mosley or they don't like 239 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: that contract, and and that's why it But that starts 240 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: back at the ownership level, that the process leading into 241 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: it didn't make sense. Uh. And it's too bad because 242 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: I think Levian Bell is still a good player. It's 243 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: I just he just paid a lot of money. There's 244 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: a jetsiness to the whole thing, too, because there is 245 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a scenario and a reality where the Jets are actually 246 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: a halfway decent team this year is many of us 247 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: thought they would be, and they're in contention for the 248 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: wild card, and then uh, and the offseason Joe Douglass 249 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: gets to start to massage the roster. But with the Jets, 250 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: it always seems to go whatever the worst case scenario was, 251 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: which is, in this case, the season goes down the toilet. 252 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Every move has not worked out, and the biggest potential 253 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: worst case scenario is exactly how it's played out. Jamal 254 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Adams is the golden Boy, and if I was a 255 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Jets fan, my number one, I guess will be my 256 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: number one concern going into the years. Don't ruin Jamal Adams. 257 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: He's pure, he's elite. Yeah, but we haven't. I mean, 258 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: he was out for a month, so we don't even 259 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: know what's going on. But Jamal Adams the leadership he 260 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: showed before this year on on a bad team last year, 261 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: playing a hunt percent every week in leading by example. 262 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: Don't ruin that guy. That's all I want. He tweeted, 263 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: actually shortly before the deadline. It's in God's hands now 264 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: and I it's a little exclusive from the old zeuser. 265 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: We have God on the line. God, are you there? Yes, 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: it's me God. This message is for Jamal. How's life 267 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: like your ability? I gave that to you personality. It's great. 268 00:13:53,559 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: You're welcome to answer your question. I put you on 269 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: this earth to save the jets. That is God's plan. 270 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Long time listener, first time caller, I'll hang up and listen. 271 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: Oh I wanted a chance to ask God a question 272 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: in the press conference? Yeah he uh, he's off. I 273 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: wanted to know if hiring Greg Williams is part of 274 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: God's plan? Can we we get him back? God? Try 275 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: to get him back. I don't know if he has 276 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: a number, but yeah, yeah, I don't know about that. 277 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: What's that was? Was hiring Greg Williams part of your plan? 278 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I work in mysterious ways? Fair enough? But if this 279 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: is open for questions, I got sorry about the cancer? So, um, 280 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: so what's up with that that CBS show? You know, 281 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: isn't that a more efficient way to do things than 282 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: befriending people. That is my favorite program. I like the 283 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: one with the fat guy and the other lady finding love. 284 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Bob hearts Albasolo goodbye. Well that was an exclusive. That's 285 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: the old zeuser that's getting the scoop who knew? All right, 286 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Robby Anderson stays but two. All right, let's see what 287 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: else is going on? Uh? Keep to leave? This one's weird, 288 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: well not weird. It's one of those things that U 289 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: NFL junkies like a Rosenthal. They lap it up. The 290 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Rams send Keep to leave their veteran cornerback who's on 291 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: I R and a fifth round pick to the Dolphins 292 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: in exchange for a late round future draft pick. U 293 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: ESPN had this first. Greg, tell me the business behind 294 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: this move. They're just buying a fifth round draft pick. 295 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: The Dolphins are essentially the salary dump. And I wondered 296 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: if the Rams were you know, there was a second 297 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: move to come, but there wasn't. It seems awfully expensive 298 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: to me. So he has four point two million dollars 299 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: left on his contract. The Dolphins are going to pay 300 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: all of that. All they get out of it is 301 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. As Charlie Castley pointed out fifth 302 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: round picks ever start for their team. Strange, right, don't 303 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: tell GMS this, but the draft is only four rounds long, 304 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: right and usually and even the Rams are getting another 305 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: pick back. Now, maybe they to Leave gets thrown into 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: their compensatory pick formula because he's a free agent, so 307 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: maybe you could get more. But he barely played this year. 308 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: He's on injury reserve until mid December, and not like 309 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: to ever suit up for the Dolphins. Right, There's someone 310 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: said they think he might end up on Brian Flores 311 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: his coaching staff next year. So that's why did I 312 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: don't think that's why they did the trade. But maybe 313 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: he because they were together in New England. Well just 314 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: hand there close, and I guess to Leave does have 315 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: an interest in it. Um, But well, this is the 316 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: Dolphins move. They've done the same thing with Robert Quinn 317 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill too. Just sold him. So that trade 318 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: happened today Tuesday. On Monday, the Dolphins agreed to trade 319 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: running back Kenyan Drake to the Cardinals in exchange for 320 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: a conditional draft pick. Um. This is the deal that was. 321 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: You know, we saw it coming because Drake did not 322 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: travel for Monday Night Football and the Cardinals west or 323 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: a team that has depth in that backfield. Of course, 324 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: David Johnson is there. Chase Edmonds had a breakout week 325 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: last week, but he just heard his hamstring. David Johnson 326 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: is banged up, so it's a crowded backfield, but a 327 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: banged up one Kenyan Drake enters the fray. Yeah, it's 328 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: like a crowded backfield until late October and then it 329 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: becomes a vacant backfield. So they need a running back. 330 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: I was hoping to see Kenyan Drake go to the Lions, 331 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: who desperately need a running back. But in this case, 332 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: the good for the Cardinals because it sounds like Chase 333 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Edmonds is gonna be out a few weeks with the 334 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and David Johnson that back injury doesn't seem 335 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: to be getting any better. I like the move for 336 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: the card Well, good for you and uh Lukisha the 337 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: paramore who is making her Thursday Night recap debut Cardinals 338 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Night, I mean Halloween night. Yeah, you are helping 339 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: out the parents in this case, specifically me since it 340 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: is my turn, uh you know, and my kids taking 341 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: them out for Halloween who know I love Kenny in Dury. 342 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: Shouldn't you guys have to do three Thursday nights in 343 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: a row? After Mark and I did the Redskins Vikings game. 344 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: I do in general, I do three years in a 345 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: I do oh one, yeah, I know. I When I 346 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: was watching that game at home with with my kids, uh, 347 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: I thought how you always say how I love every 348 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: NFL game and I was like, Nope, not this one. 349 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't love this game. Wasn't it last year that 350 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Mark was like, Halloween's fine with his kids? Remember your 351 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: good Yeah, that's right, thank you for so he can 352 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: do that and then I can stick a fork in Halloween. 353 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: As for the West Hollywood Parade, you know this is 354 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: my time to dress up as almost a thirty year 355 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: old to you know, are you what are you doing 356 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: on Halloween? Well, they closed down all of West Hollywood 357 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: and there's like half a million people that go, you know, 358 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: trapes the streets there. But you're gonna be editing that 359 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: Thursday night recap. Now I'm going to have to figure 360 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: that out. Huh. You put that one on Attie Spaghetti's plate. 361 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: He's gonna be at my apartment pregaming before that walks. 362 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to figure something out. So you 363 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: guys are gonna go out and turn or something. You're 364 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: gonna come up, publish it, and then go back out. Yeah, 365 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: that's basically. Yeah, you need an intern. I know, I 366 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: need a couple. What happened to Camelina missed that guy? 367 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: You are you gonna have any drinks in your system 368 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: when you're editing this? No, of course not. That was 369 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: a test. Yeah, of course not. That was a good answer. 370 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Of course not figures, but yeah, he shadowy like figures. 371 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: Actually listen to this pod. I don't drink at all anyway, 372 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: So well, you know that's not true. You're a real 373 00:19:50,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: booze hounds. Not true either. Another trade mm hmm. Jennar Avery, Yes, 374 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was good. The Eagles acquired defensive end 375 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Ginnard Avery from the Browns in exchange for fourth round pick. 376 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: Avery is just in the second year of his rookie deal. 377 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: He had four and a half sex as a rookie. 378 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: He was a fifth round pick. So the Eagles add 379 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: some pass rushing depth. But I guess John Dorsey and 380 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: this is not the first time we've seen it. In 381 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. Uh not afraid to cut 382 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: ties with a draft pick. He's not feeling got good 383 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: value with a fourth round pick. People thought, how he 384 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: Roseman gave up a lot. This guy had forty two 385 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: pressures last year. He didn't they change systems. This is 386 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the type of trade that should happen a little more. 387 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: Sometimes guys get totally uh stuck on a in a 388 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: bad situation. He was playing a ton and played well 389 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: last year. Wasn't playing at all this year. They need 390 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: some pass rush help. Watching Josh Allen stand back in 391 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the pocket last week has to be tough for the 392 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: Eagles fans. He's a tweener. He's sort of a linebacker 393 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: who's meant to be a pass rush here, but he's 394 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: not built like a pass rusher, which made him have 395 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: no home in the new defense. But like Greg said, 396 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: look good last year, Uh staying put. Who who was 397 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: rumored to move and didn't move? Other than those Jets 398 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: we talked about, well, Chris Harris of the Broncos. That 399 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: cornerback that team's going nowhere as we know, But the 400 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: veteran cornerback, he does not get moved. Despite some rumors 401 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: that they would look to get something done the big 402 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: name left tackle Trent Williams speaking of the Browns, there 403 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: was you know, I don't know if it was ever 404 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: a real connection between the Browns and the Redskins on 405 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: Trent Williams, but it made a lot of sense because 406 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: the Browns need something to stabilize that offensive perhaps a 407 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: left tackle like Williams would be that. But Williams does 408 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 1: not get traded, and immediately after the trade deadline he 409 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: reports officially to the Redskins. So I guess he waited 410 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: and waited and waited and never wanted to play another 411 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: snap for Washington, but he decided to get his career moving, 412 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: and I guess toll his free agency and do all 413 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: the things he needs to do to get the hell 414 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: out of Dodge, he had to report to the team. 415 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: That's how I read that. Yeah, rap sheet I believe 416 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: reported that the Redskins were asking about cornerback Denzel Award, 417 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: which was a nonstarter and never had any chance of happening. 418 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: And then JP Finley of NPC said that one source said, uh, 419 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: on a Trent Williams moved, the Redskins wouldn't take calls 420 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: for months, so quote now nobody wants to bail them out. 421 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: M M, well, that that makes sense though, the Redskins 422 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: making these guys available at the last minute, especially Trent 423 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: Williams after saying no, no, no. They reportedly turned down 424 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: a first round pick from the Patriots back in the day, 425 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: and supposedly there was a second round pick on the table, 426 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: and it almost felt spiteful that they just wanted to 427 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: keep Trent Williams now knowing that he is showing up. 428 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they had some information or thought that that was 429 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: a strong possibility. Was our very own D'Angelo hall an 430 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: NFL network. He's a colleague. I don't know if good 431 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: friend you talked to him. It's beyond colleague at this point. Yeah, 432 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: he he broke the news, So I guess the Redskins 433 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: one that's stair down. I'm annoyed with that. Uh, they're 434 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: gonna trade him eventually. He's still not a free agent. 435 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: He'll be thirty three. Maybe maybe he heard, and this 436 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: would be fair that teams wanted to see how he 437 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: looked after a series of pretty serious injuries and that 438 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: that would help his value and help his chances to 439 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: get a new contract with a new team. Yeah, play 440 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: a little. It is weird. Though this this whole like massogy. 441 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: What do you think about like Levan Bell and Jamal 442 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: Adams showing up to work tomorrow and Soldiers another guy 443 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: who sounds like they were shopping pretty aggressively, Jack Rabbit Jenkin, 444 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Norris Jenkins, and it's kind of a new thing in 445 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: the NFL that Okay, Nate Soldier, It's like we tried 446 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: to deal you, but uh go back. You know, it's 447 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: just a strange situation for some of these players. I 448 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: think it was Michael Scott and said somebody said, Michael, 449 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: it's it's not business, it's personal, and then he said 450 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: business is personal, and that you wonder like when these 451 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: guys do come to work when they were aggressively shopped, 452 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: if it makes them even more you know, disenfranchised. Probably 453 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: the Jets that will be the case. Exactly. You can't 454 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: you can't help but get your feelings hurt. And yeah, 455 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: Michael Scott's right. Businesses person is always right. Um. I'll 456 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: never forgive Ricky for once he tried to trade me 457 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: off this podcast. I thought that was ridiculous. The wa 458 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: the way that like like work structure, what was what 459 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: was the It didn't even make sense. What what were 460 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: the particulars of the trade. I think like to the 461 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: like for they for a subscription to the Athletic or 462 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: something like that. Just salary dumb. Basically, you had as 463 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: much value as left Bell on the market. According to 464 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Rickey Cricket, two more interesting names O. J. Howard did 465 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: not get moved. It sound like the Bucks wanted a 466 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: lot for him. Moved the quarterback, keep the tight end. 467 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: And Darius Slay, who the Free Press Detroit Free Press 468 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: seems to think is going to be gone one way 469 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: or another in the off season, that he's priced himself out. Uh, 470 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: they're not going to resign him to a long term deal. 471 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: I think his deal is up after um next years, 472 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: so I think they just decide they're going to trade 473 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: him in the off season. According to the Free Press, 474 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: apparently they tried to get Chris Harris too, but their 475 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: offer was not good enough. In non trade deadline news, Today, Tuesday, 476 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: October is Andy Dalton's thirty second birthday. Happy birthday to you, 477 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you, Happy birth egon Heil. Andy Dalton 478 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: is being benched by the Cincinnati ben Gals. Good job breaking. 479 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Rookie fourth round pick Ryan Finley is taking over the 480 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: oh and eight Cincinnati squad. Zach Taylor had this to 481 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: say about the decision to move away from Alton, who 482 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: has been the guy there since he was drafted in 483 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: the second round back in two thousand eleven. And the 484 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: hard thing now is when you're own eight, um and 485 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: you make a quarterback switch, people tend to look at 486 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback and say he was the problem. And that's 487 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: the furthest thing from the truth. Um, he's done a 488 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: lot of things to keep us going here, and he's 489 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 1: invested a lot of UM time and effort and energy 490 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: into getting us a win and it hasn't happened. It's unfortunate, um, 491 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: because he's represented his franchise the right way over the 492 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: last nine years and and he's been everything you would 493 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: have asked in that regard. And so UM again, not 494 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: an easy day, not easy conversation, but it was my decision. 495 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: End of an era. I mean, since this podcast has started, 496 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton has um you know, a guy we looked 497 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: to for stability to tell us how the other quarterbacks 498 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: in the league should be measured. But even two years 499 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: before we started this podcast, he's been starting I mean 500 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, as you guys might remember what was he 501 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: taken two picks ahead of Colin Kaepernick. That was a 502 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: kind or two picks at you. It's a controversial thing 503 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: that in the Bengals were maybe gonna take Kaepernick. Didn't happen. 504 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: There's some Jake Gruden wanted Andy Dalton right. That was 505 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: the true controversy around Colin Kaepernick and his career. I mean, 506 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: those are some roads diverging. I think it makes a 507 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: lot of sense of because Ryan Finley look good in 508 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: the preseason. This is where the preseason does matter. Sometimes 509 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: you can as a rookie quarterback, especially, you can plant 510 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: a little flag or put a bug in your your 511 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: coaches here. If you look that good, then you give 512 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: your team an option when when you're O and A 513 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: and they're clearly ready to move on from Dalton next offseason, 514 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: and yet they're putting him in a position to fail. 515 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: And I get that this is part of the reason 516 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: why they didn't want to trade A. J. Green, because 517 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: they want to give him a real shot over eight 518 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: games to see what he can do. But you know, 519 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton has been playing with a historically bad rushing attack. Uh, 520 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: He's got a career backup guard playing left tackle. The 521 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: center they drafted in two thousand and eighteen is playing 522 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: guard and got one of the best, one of the 523 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: worst grades I've ever seen at Pro Football Focus last game. 524 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: His number one receiver is out. I mean, I don't 525 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: know how it happened that I got stuck as the 526 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton defender in this room. But does anybody really 527 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: believe he's the worst quarterback now than he's been his 528 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: entire career. He's in his athletic prime where his mind 529 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: is catching up with his body. This is when quarterbacks 530 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: are hitting the stride in the NFL in two thousand nineteen, 531 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: and I think he's fine. He's the same guy. You're 532 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: not alone. I've always been on board the Andy Dalton 533 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: Express in terms of you could do a lot worse. 534 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: If Mark was here, he'd be he'd be crowing right now. 535 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, this is what we've always talked about, 536 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: right and that that stat that I think Andrew Siciliano 537 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: tweeted out before the London game that Dalton is now 538 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: the first quarterback in the history of the NFL to 539 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 1: start a season both eight no which was in two 540 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen when he had a great offensive line and 541 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: a really good set of skill players around him, and 542 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: now oh and eight in two thousand nineteen when he 543 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: has none of that and he's just not He'll never 544 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: be the same guy. Yeah, he's never gonna be like 545 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: you can put to Shaun Watson in this situation. I'm 546 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: just throwing Watson out there, and I would say Cincinnati 547 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: might have two or three wins. But Dalton is not 548 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: that guy. And you can hold it against him if 549 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: you want. But I think he might have a good 550 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: football left in him if he just ends up in 551 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: a good spot. Hopefully he is with a better team 552 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: next year. Right, everyone connected thought, well, you know, trade 553 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: him to the Bears. He would help the Bears team. 554 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: I think I think he I think he would have 555 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: this year. I mean, I think he's he could upgrade 556 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: a team. He has been sacked twenty nine times. That's 557 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: five more than he was his entire rookie season. In 558 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: sixteen starts. It's eight more than he was in the 559 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: entire season in sixteen starts. He's also leading the league 560 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: in completions and attempts. They're just because they have the 561 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: worst running game. Ever, I don't think this is how 562 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: you this is how you set a quarterback up to fail, right, 563 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: But I also don't see the harm. I think, if 564 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a good quarterback, well they're not gonna 565 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: You're not gonna your career is not gonna be ruined 566 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: because you're in a tough situation. Look at all the 567 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: He've always said that, I just disagree with you, but 568 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: because of all the great quarterbacks who are ruined by 569 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: bad situation, but I don't think they would have been 570 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: great quarterback like even guys, but a lot of people 571 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: who do this for a living think that that's bad dash. 572 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: So guys like you couldn't have had a worse situation 573 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: than Alex Smith, and he ended up being what Alex 574 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: was gonna be. You could never have a worse situation 575 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: than Eli Manning, and Eli Manning ended up being what 576 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: Eli Manning was going to be. So that's anecdotal. And 577 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: even they can choose the guys you want and you like, 578 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: and you say they survived. Yeah no, but you say, 579 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: because Eli Manning did it, then Tim Couch should have 580 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: done it too. Well, he got hurt. That's fair. Maybe 581 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's increasing a chance for Finley to get injured. 582 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: Behind this offensive line that would be the biggest This 583 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: is the best thing that has happened to Andy Dalton years. 584 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: So he doesn't end up blowing out his knee or 585 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: getting his leg broken, or having his elbow contorted in 586 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: a way that leads to reconstructive surgery on a terrible 587 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: team that messes up his value going forward. You know, 588 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: hopefully this kid does some things, stays in the lineup, 589 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: that franchise has something to look forward to or think about, 590 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: and Andy Dalton gets a fresh start. And I liked 591 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: Finley in the preseason. I thought he was as impressive 592 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: as in any of the rookies, the only man that 593 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: could bring you back to the Bengals. You you carried 594 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: that Finley flag? No, he Hey, I don't even think 595 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: he has like he has a blow average arm for 596 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: an NFL starter, So I wouldn't get my hopes up. 597 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: But I do agree that this is a fine time 598 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: to take a look at him, except for the fact 599 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: that you're setting him up to fail with the surrounding town. 600 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: I know balderdash is a popular board game, but I've 601 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: never seen it used uh in basic conversation. So kudos 602 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: to West and for those of you like me that 603 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: wanted a a definition, senseless talk or writing semi call 604 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: him nonsense? Well done West. Have you played the board game? 605 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe I've played it, I'm not sure. 606 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: I feel like it's the same game and it got 607 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: rebranded as categories a couple of years later. Okay, that 608 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: you know what? That rings a bell. Joe Flacco is 609 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: out of the lineup in Denver. A day after he 610 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: comes out and rips the Broncos game plan in a 611 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Week eight loss, we learned that he has a neck 612 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: injury that is going to cost him time. He will 613 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: not be playing in Week nine against the Browns. It 614 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: will be Brandon Allen, who has claimed off waivers on 615 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: September one from the Rams, who will start Drew Lock 616 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: who is recovered the second round pick. You know, Not 617 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: only is Joe Flacco's neck injury sound ominous, you know, 618 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: thirty five year old quarterback has discs slipping all over 619 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 1: the place. Also ominous is the second round pick who 620 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: is now healthy. Uh and the quarterback whisper laugh laugh, 621 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: ha ha, chuckle, chuckle. John Elway publicly stating we're not 622 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: ready to say whether we want him to play this season. Okay, 623 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: sounds like a great situation right there. Anyway, so Brandon 624 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: Allen starts Flacco on the shelf. I didn't. I didn't 625 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: make much of this. Um. I saw Flacco getting his 626 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: neck worked on during that game, and then I saw 627 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: him take an absolute punishing hit. It was like the 628 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Leonard Marshall on Joe Montana hit from the playoffs, and 629 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: I said, oh, his neck is probably in fourteen different pieces. 630 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: That's probably what did it. Greg, on the other hand, 631 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: in the newsroom throughout an alternate theory that this is 632 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: all hoke um to borrow it's what they sent him 633 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,719 Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey's doctors, that that the the broncos. I'm 634 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: not saying this is what you're saying, but you could 635 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: connect dots that it's a quip and that maybe not 636 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: a coincidence that he buries the team on Sunday and 637 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: it's out of the lineup on Monday. He buried the 638 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff, and suddenly he's benched. He said he suffered 639 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: the injury. He first suffered the injury two weeks ago, 640 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: and they played through it. Well, it's natural to be skeptical, right, 641 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: considering the circumstances. But the rap sheet said you had 642 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: a rap sheet said that he's going to get a 643 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: second opinion on his neck because the first one wasn't good. 644 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: That tells me that he's legitimately injured. Could be out 645 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: five to six weeks according to and that in that 646 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: last hit of the game was absolutely brutal. It reminded 647 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: me kind of a sports movie. They always like go 648 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: a little too hard, Like if you watch Friday Night Lights, 649 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: every hit is the most visual, like helicopters ever seen. 650 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: But that's what that last hit for Joe Flacco looked like. 651 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: I was watching that yesterday. So there's like nine seconds 652 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: to play when he gets sacked and the offensive linemen 653 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: are staggering back to line of scream was trying to 654 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: get one more desperation playoff, and I'm looking all over 655 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: the screen looking for Joe Flacco. I couldn't even find him. 656 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: I think Flacco just walked to the locker room. I 657 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: don't think he even trying to get back to the line. 658 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: I could have easily missed him, but it didn't. On 659 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: the condensed mode, uh blink and you missed it scenario, 660 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: I could not find Joe Flacco I thought maybe he 661 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: was blasted into hell by the hit. It was that 662 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: type of shot. I mean, we're they're starting Brandon now 663 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: and here it's only October that they're making this move. Yeah. 664 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: I know Mark likes to look for teams to you know, 665 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: Harry say, are taking a dirt nap, But this feels 666 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: like it's week sixteen, that Brandon Allen is starting for 667 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: them already, and there might be no hope of Drew 668 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: lock even coming back. Speaking Mark, I have a bit 669 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: of a Sessler. Maybe we've seen the last of Joe 670 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: Flacco ever made a ton of money. He's got his ring, 671 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: he's in decline Joe. He like he's dabbled in acting 672 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: John United movie that never got off the ground. Uh. 673 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: Maybe Joe is one of those guys that doesn't hang 674 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: on and walks away. But I like people like rap 675 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: Sheeters say, and he's couching his his words. This could 676 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: be the end of his Broncos career and hands this 677 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: is going one step further. This could be the end 678 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: of his NFL triple sourcing here, this is just well, 679 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I reached that, I reached out to rap sheet, which 680 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I which I'll do, I do trying to find the 681 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: real story here and then just presented inside or one 682 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: O one. You know, well, it's fine, he says, what's 683 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: on or off the record? No response on this one. 684 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: So sometimes sometimes you read between the lines. This was 685 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: too hot for him. He didn't want to be a 686 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: flight to me. I was like, sorry, they just bending 687 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: him because he talked about that. So I need to 688 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: know what your final stance on this. You still believe 689 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: it's hokum? Now, I think there's enough evidence. I don't 690 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: want to in pease jacked up, but they're not. They're 691 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: not gonna miss him after that. No, I agree with that. 692 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: They're ready to turn the page and he'll end up 693 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: on I R. You'll see Brandon Allen for Starter too, 694 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: and then you'll see Drew Lock. Come on, Drew Lock. 695 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: Well it's not his he is not under control, but 696 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: come on, come on. Put him in the game if 697 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: you want to give it a couple of weeks and 698 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: get him more practice reps. The idea that you might 699 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: just keep him out of action until p's even more 700 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: heat on. Freddie Kitch, you better go beat Brandon Balin 701 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday in a ball game. You can't, you Browns 702 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: cannot go lose to Brandon Allen or that Browns game 703 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: with Mark not here, I better, I should get this in. 704 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: They were here for a week. How they're gonna show 705 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: up with a new mindset. I know it's the Patriots, 706 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: but they have three consecutive turnovers at one point and 707 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: commit like forty seven penalties. That seems a mess seeing 708 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: all of your brown is talking about. The only concern 709 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: is that Um, Mark's wife Simone, who listens to every show, 710 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: could report that back to Mark. That's that's a danger, 711 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: all right. Um. The Chargers fire offensive coordinator Ken wizzen 712 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: Hunt after three years with the team. This comes during 713 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: a time when the Chargers, at three and five, ranks 714 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: seventeenth in total offense twenty three points per game. Um, 715 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: you know they were great offense for stretches for most 716 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: of last year, but it has not gotten going. And 717 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: would Melvin Gordon not to put too much on Melvin Gordon, 718 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: but since he's returned, it's gotten even worse. In fact, 719 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: they won with a little over two hundred yards of 720 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: total offense on Sunday, and that was the first time 721 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: that the Chargers had won with that little that amount 722 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: of offense. In like seven years, so they were very lucky. Uh, 723 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: and they're making a change. I think the quarterback coaches 724 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: taking over change striking is that his name in Anthony 725 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: Lynn taking you know, like a big part in it. 726 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: I think just reading between line seems like there was 727 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: some philosophical differences between Whiz and Hunt and Lynn. But 728 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 1: the offense hasn't been as big a problem as a defense. 729 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: They've been an average offense in terms of you know, 730 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: efficiency d v o A, and they've been one of 731 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: the worst five or six defense is in the league. 732 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: Their running game, which is what Anthony Lynn kind of 733 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: cut his teeth in. He was a running backs coach. 734 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: He played the you know, fullback, played the position to 735 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 1: They are the first team since the nineteen forty six 736 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions and then the only team other than the 737 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: card Pit card Steelers of the Carpets. Are you aware 738 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: of those? They had to combine teams during the war 739 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: because they didn't even in the Cardinals and the Steelers 740 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: the first team since then to rush for under forty 741 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: yards per game for four straight games, which happens to 742 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: be when Melvin Gordon returned. I mean that's crazy. Also, 743 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: when Mike Pouncey got injured their starting center. But yeah, 744 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon again playing like two eighteen. Leonard for Nett 745 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: is not hoping. I don't think it's crazy at all 746 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: to wonder about Philip rivers future. I've been doing it 747 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: all season. He's a free agent. We need Dan to 748 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: get more out of me money and Rivers was Rivers 749 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: and it Wasn't. Hunt were very close. Rivers credited wizn 750 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: Not with turning his career around in his first They 751 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: They're so close that Lynn kept Wizzen Hunt after Mike 752 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: McCoy was fired, which is pretty rare. So Wizon Hunt's 753 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: coached Rivers in for the Chargers in two different cities 754 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: and three different head coaches. That's how close they are. 755 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: It just does make you wonder if maybe both sides 756 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: or Rivers specifically, will you know, push to get out 757 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the free agent A lot of that 758 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: connecting going on, a lot of people saying that be weird. 759 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: They're moving into a new stadium there, they're a team 760 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: to watch. I mean, he's he's right behind Eli at 761 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: this point. Though, come on, I think he's playing fine. 762 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: He's not He's not great. He's better than obviously better 763 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: now than Eli was before he left. But he doesn't. 764 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: But he's he's a franchise legend um. You know, he's 765 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: one of the best, certainly the best. You know, what 766 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: does that mean for the charges? It's a fair point. 767 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if they that is a fair point. 768 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably sick of making that commute up 769 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: from San Diego. I think he's making the worst Well, 770 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: before o'coon came back, he was making the worst tackle 771 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: situation and the league look kind of just mediocre. Finally, 772 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: let's uh head behind the velvet ropes. You know, I'll 773 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: always get you guys into the Kicker club. Mike Nugent, 774 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: he acted on Sunday for the Patriots who knew he 775 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: was done, and he is done. He was released by 776 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: the Bellichicks, replaced by Nick Falko. I thought he was 777 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: like one of those like kicking analysts for CBS or 778 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: something that I had no idea he was still one 779 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: of it. You haven't heard his name pop up once, 780 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 1: and he's traveling kick you know, it's always the same 781 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: guys working out of the carnivals in town. You haven't 782 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: heard anything about Folk, Well, he hasn't been in the 783 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: league for two years. That's what I thought. Okay, I 784 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: just checked. Yeah, played four games in seventeen, so he 785 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: last really played a season for your Jets, and what 786 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: could go wrong? And the Jets move dogs? He could 787 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: kick anymore? Greg, it's concerning. Your season is in a 788 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: weird place when you're when you're mad you missed out 789 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: on Young Way Coup. It was like, darn the Falcon 790 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: stole Coup. I wanted that. Sorry, Young Way cou goes 791 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: to the Falcons who replaced uh, Matt Bryant, the forty 792 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: five year old keep that club music going. We're still banging. 793 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: Greg's got to get to a haircut. But we can't 794 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: leave the club the club yet. Have you noticed West 795 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: Gregg keeps looking at his phone. Yeah, I'm not. I 796 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: got a two and a half minute voicemail, and I'm thinking, 797 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: who leaves a two and a half minute voicemail? Is 798 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: this serious? What is happening? Matt Brian had a bad 799 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,720 Speaker 1: game for the Falcons. Everything else, we're in the kicker club. 800 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't know it's a number. I don't ask too loud, 801 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: can't hear you? Matt Bryan out Atlanta, Young Way Coup 802 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: in and my vital thought before we leave the club 803 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: is I joke about Kai's Kai and the report I 804 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: got on Kai and how if you have to explain 805 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: Kai for bast personality, it's well, you know, guy's Kay. 806 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: How is he not getting a job? Nick Focus in 807 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: a retirement home and they bring him out. Matt Bryan 808 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: was literally on the golf course and the and the 809 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: Falcons brought him back. Yeah, you gotta go with give 810 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: Kay a chance? Where the where the protests about Kai 811 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: being black Bault, maybe your report has contributed to the 812 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: black bone. I hate to think that, but you are talking. 813 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: It's nice to see. Hey, it's nice to see young 814 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: Way Coup back in the league. If if you weren't 815 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: listening a couple of playing the South Korean kicker who 816 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: had a very rough start with the charges, but it 817 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 1: was short. It was just a couple of games. Maybe 818 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: it's good that he's in the NFC South for in 819 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 1: a dome. That's I'm glad they used him like three 820 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: games into its correct. Kasia's mom was so upset, but 821 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: so I'm glad that he's back. This is your strong 822 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: ties to Asian culture. I mean, that's that's fine. That's 823 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: a stretch, and that that would be related to this 824 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: particular topic. Although I do you know, you can't go 825 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: wrong in Korea Town. The more the more I live 826 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: in l A, the more I go, I would say, 827 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: we're at a we're at every other week at this point, 828 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, there's a reason why, like Paul O'Neil was 829 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: a big hit with h you know, the large Irish 830 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: contingent of New Yorkers. I mean, you have a connection 831 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: to Coup. He's your Polly O'Neil, Polly, you know, Paul, 832 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: He's Irish. I like that guy. All right, I'm going 833 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: to Korea Town to get some good food. There you go, 834 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: great food. Greg actually pointed me in the direction of 835 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: a wonderful place a few weeks back for my wife's birthday, 836 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: and I went all in. Even with that soup that's 837 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: four and fifty degrees and you have to wait like 838 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: an hour for it to cool down, and then you 839 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: put the egg in it. You break the egg and 840 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: put the egg into the soup and it cooks within 841 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: the soup and just adds texture and sounds like what 842 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: does the name of that place ree? Any Los Angeles listeners? Greg, 843 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: that's BCD tofu house. There's one in New York too. 844 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: It's not it's nothing fancy, but it's it's still it's 845 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: still all starts me in a gossy gope chain is 846 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 1: a really great Korean barbie barbee place to a gassy 847 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: gop gop chat chain. It's unreal. Alright, good to know, Alright, 848 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: Monday night recap. Let's hit that over the middle running 849 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: three pay Johnson twenty five. Funny he's at the fifty. 850 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: He's a good chain step front of the tackle. Hey, 851 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 1: catch you to the end zone. Wow, party, five yard 852 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: touchdown pass one Miami prot the kitchen sick, the whole 853 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: trouble of the rich seat. Oh. Brian Flores a Steelers 854 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: radio network with a call booker, mcfarlande. You know, a 855 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: little up and down in that booth. But he, to 856 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: his credit, he was all over that. The Dolphins send 857 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: the house on a third and forever near midfield late 858 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: in the second quarter, a zero a blitz, a Belichick special, 859 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: and the Steelers are like, what okay? And they hit 860 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: the wide open receiver who waltz is into the end 861 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: zone and that turned to fourteen three deficit into fourteen 862 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,759 Speaker 1: ten I believe, and that was it. The game was 863 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of shifted at that moment. The Steelers controlled the 864 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: second half win, so the Dolphins dropped to ohen seven. Uh. 865 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: The organic fish tank lives on and in this case, 866 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: Greg they get out to a four teen zip start 867 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph looks terrible uh in decisive holding the ball, 868 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: throwing at a terrible uh situations, and yet the Steelers 869 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: were able to write the ship before disaster. Yeah. I 870 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: have not understood the optimism surrounding the Steelers in Pittsburgh 871 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: that they're gonna rally and be like a nine win 872 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: team because of their quarterback position. I guess it should 873 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: they've won three out of four after oh and three. 874 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: But I'm with you, Yeah, and that right, it's because 875 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: it's because I don't trust Rudolph, who Yeah, it did 876 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: warm up and played fine in the second half. The 877 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: final score was lipstick on a pig. That they have 878 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: a made your quarterback problem, and I don't think they 879 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: know it. He he is inviting pressure. He's a great 880 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: example of that. Sacks and QB hits is are more 881 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 1: on the quarterback than they are on the offensive line. 882 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: When when you're just looking at the stats because he 883 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: was holding the ball forever, getting great protection all night, 884 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: like every team does against the Dolphins, and he was 885 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: inviting hits. Whether it's the old Great Coastal is um 886 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: that there are anticipatory passers and then there are quarterbacks 887 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: who need to see the guy flash open before he 888 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: throws it, and Rudolph as a see it before he 889 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: throws it pass her, but he compounds the problem by 890 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: by seeing it and then still throwing at the guys 891 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: who aren't open. I don't think it's the last of 892 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: Devlin Duck Hodges. I I didn't. I would think we're 893 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: going to see him start games. I could not believe 894 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: we didn't hear more talk of whether Hodges should be 895 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: starting over Rudolph in the weeks leading up to this game, 896 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: because the offense has moved so much better with Hodges 897 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: in there, and Rudolph has a better arm, no question 898 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: about it. But to me, it's quite the conundrum to 899 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: be in when the guy you hand selected as the 900 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: quarterback of the future is playing worse than an undrafted 901 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: free agent, and the the stakes are the Dolphins get 902 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: your top five six pick overall if you finish in 903 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 1: the top five or six because you are playing the 904 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: wrong quarterback. That was what was fun. I thought this 905 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be one of those games, kind of like 906 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 1: an ugly, beautiful, weird game. Fitzpatrick came out playing awesome, 907 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: and he's done that a couple of times, but man, 908 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: he was on fire to start the game. He was 909 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: so decisive. He knew where the pass rush was coming, 910 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: knew where the blitzers. It was just fun and I'm thinking, Oh, 911 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun. Maybe the Dolphins get their 912 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: first win or something crazy happens and they own the 913 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: Steelers pick. So if ever they're gonna win a game, 914 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: this is like the game to do it. And then 915 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: Nico Leary, that was where it really started, dropped the 916 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: pass that hit him in the chest. That's what set 917 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: up that third and twenty. The Dolphins were driving to 918 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: build a fourteen. And then they cut Nico Leary the 919 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 1: next day. I do I do feel for the spiteful 920 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: cut the next day, because who knows you hate emotional 921 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: GM work. Well, I'm saying, like that might be that 922 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: might be his last moment in the NFL. You don't 923 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: even know, and he has Either way, he's sitting with 924 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: him Ashman that he turned the game around with a 925 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 1: drop and then you get fired if they cut all 926 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: the guys who dropped Ryan Fitzpatrick's passes last night, they 927 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: went in an offense exactly. Uh yes, so Mason Rudolph, 928 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: he he gets off the mat and at least allows 929 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers to have a shot there three and four now, 930 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: and I'm with you. I feel like this is like 931 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: a seven win team maybe, but with defense is so good. 932 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: The offense put them in bad places last night. The 933 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: defense played really well, you know what? Good? I just 934 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: like the Panthers game was a good reminder. Good defense 935 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: is not enough because good defense is they only can 936 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: beat up on bad team like good a good off 937 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: a really good offense is still going to move the 938 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: ball on the Steeler, especially with some of the injury. 939 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: Would you be shocked if they beat the Colts at 940 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: home next week? I wouldn't be shocked, but I'll be 941 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: picking the cold. What's the difference between the Bills and 942 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers right now? I would still take the offense 943 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: in Buffalo in Josh Allen, Yeah, speaking of picks, you 944 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: want to do a little, you should gloat. I certainly would. 945 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: Oh I went this week, what that's really good spread 946 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: on your column that you do on the on the pics. 947 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: It's not the spread or anything, but you know what 948 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 1: three against the spread, that's that's even better. NFL, I 949 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 1: don't care what you're doing. To pick the right team 950 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: is almost possible. There have been weeks. I believe there 951 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: was a week where the favorites, according to the Desert 952 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: people went to intent. This was right. Not one of 953 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: those weeks. I think there were two or three upsets 954 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 1: and well, congratulations, Greg nice. What do you get for that, 955 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: by the way, nothing nothing. You get to keep right 956 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: about it, Hawkins. He's gonna give you some pop on 957 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: your show. We'll talk about it on game debut. Alright, 958 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: nice word um. James Connor had a huge game and 959 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: left the game with a shoulder injury of some kind. 960 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: He looks so good. He looks so much better now 961 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: than he did in September. Best case scenario though, because 962 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: it looked like it could have been a clavicle or 963 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: something something that would ruin his season when he left 964 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: late in the game. But I believe he practiced in 965 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 1: a limited capacity or is planning to practice. They expect him, Yeah, 966 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 1: they expect him to go, so not anything too serious. 967 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: So the Dolphins fault oh and seven and the Gze Bowl, 968 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be taking that high in the draft. 969 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: On Thursday's show, Dolphins versus Jets, that might be the 970 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,240 Speaker 1: dolphins best chance to get a W these two matchups 971 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: against the Jets. What if they even want one? But 972 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and Rich Eyes and had the theory on 973 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: the show the Jets would spitefully out tank the Dolphins 974 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: and then not let them take their their blessed to 975 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: uh the quarterback from Alabama. I don't really watch. Yeah, yes, good, 976 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: I love that as a possibility. The Dolphins are I 977 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: think Dolphins are gonna win a game, you know I 978 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: And I'm glad I didn't note this on Twitter, But 979 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: the Dolphins at halftime of last week team had out 980 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: gained their opponents for the last ten quarters. That's not 981 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, since their bye week, they had outgained their opponents. 982 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they've been competitive, they've been They're not good. 983 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: I just think they'll win a game because it's hard 984 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: to lose all sixt Okay, that's fine. And then in 985 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: the second half of the Steelers game, at their offensive 986 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: line is so far below even the teams with bad 987 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: offensive lines. It's it's not even preseason caliber. It's like 988 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 1: CFL calip But there's so much better than they were 989 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: in Week one. I feel like they're getting a win 990 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: and the some energy. And they they get the Jets twice, 991 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: they get the Bengals. I feel like they'll find a 992 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: win in one of those games. All right, let's move 993 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: on to Thursday Night Football Week nine. The San Francisco 994 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: forty Niners seven and oh how great were the Niners 995 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 1: that they moved up and the old Zooser's power rankings 996 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 1: passed the Saints from three to two. And I know 997 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: some people say they should be number one, and I 998 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: get that because they were that dominant and they've been 999 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: that dominant this year. But they are looking to extend 1000 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: to eight. And oh and they are traveling to Glendale 1001 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: to face the Arizona Cards, who of course came down 1002 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 1: to earth with that loss to the Saints. However, however, 1003 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 1: John Sterling would say, um, if you watch that game, 1004 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,320 Speaker 1: you know they put a pretty good fight against the Saints. 1005 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: It got away from him, of course, as the final 1006 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: Squirrell tell you, But that decision to go for it 1007 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: on fourth and one from their own thirty loved the 1008 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: onions of it all, but once they missed that in 1009 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: the third quarter, ten six between became seventeen six and 1010 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: seventeen six quickly turned into thirty one six. So the 1011 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: Cardinals had some some fight in them in that game, 1012 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: but they did get wiped well. I think they're their defense. 1013 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, they gave up a lot of yards, but 1014 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: they've got better players now. Patrick Peterson's back, and some 1015 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 1: people believe Chandler Jones is having another all Pro type 1016 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: of season. That guy has been phenomenal obvious since he's 1017 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: been in Arizona. You've got some players on that defense. 1018 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray again keeps doing a little bit better 1019 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,319 Speaker 1: than expect him to do. He I like the fact 1020 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: he's in prime time. It's a very tough matchup. You're 1021 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: starting Kenyan Drake abably running back, but he plays smart. 1022 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, they've only had four turnovers the whole season, 1023 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Easily. That is shocking the team. That's 1024 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, giving it away. The least they haven't fumbled, 1025 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: and they haven't lots of fumble the entire season. I 1026 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: don't even think they've actually fumbled, forget just losing it. Well, 1027 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: isn't that if that is a ridiculous that if you've 1028 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: seen the forty Niners play this year, you would say 1029 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: regression to the mean hits them in a big way 1030 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: on Thursday Night, you would think, so they do have 1031 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: christ No right, well, you're right, yeah, nine turnovers. Christen 1032 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: Kirk is back though, and you have Fits and Murray's 1033 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: pretty fun to watch and the you know what, the 1034 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: forty Niners make blowouts fun. They're just so good right now. 1035 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: They have so many good players. With Bosa, I think 1036 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: Sherman's Richard Sherman sort of happened on an underrated You 1037 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: think Richard Sherman playing like a pro bowler would be 1038 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,439 Speaker 1: getting more attention. But maybe it's the front line making 1039 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: them look better. But he's of course, he's played, he's 1040 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: played great. And they kind of remind me, you know, 1041 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: they remind me a little bit of the Jim Harbaugh 1042 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,760 Speaker 1: where they're just got a bunch of like big, physical 1043 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: athletes at a lot of position. Even Deebo Samuel at 1044 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,799 Speaker 1: wide receiver, he's an athlete. Tevin Coleman so fast it's 1045 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,399 Speaker 1: like he doesn't even know what to do with this speed. 1046 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: They've just got athletes everywhere I know. But sometimes he 1047 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: almost see times sometimes it seems like he's running so 1048 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 1: fast you can't control it. I love that. This has 1049 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 1: to be the cornerbacks dream to play in this defense. 1050 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: There was one moment in the previous Cardinals game where 1051 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray West lost his helmet and it was like 1052 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: in uh Indiana Jones on the boulders towards Indeed, everybody 1053 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: just getting out of the way. It's the magic hat 1054 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: for the frosting, just too late jumping around. Um all right, 1055 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: that's it, good show, fun show. We'll be back Thursday 1056 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: to preview the rest of the games. And yes that 1057 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 1: will be Halloween. Um so West and Lakeisha from west 1058 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: Manor will handle uh the game we just previewed, so 1059 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: that will be something to check out. From NFL on 1060 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 1: Corked Headquarters, is that what That's what we're branding in 1061 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: the naming rights? It made sense. Yeah, NFL and Cork Headquarters. 1062 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 1: That's good. I mean, he knows where his bread is buttered. 1063 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 1: Every time I've mentioned NFL and Cork they gotta thank 1064 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: you text. I mean, who knows what he's getting I 1065 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: think I know all right, let's go. Dan has a 1066 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: signing off for the Mailman, the old Boss Ricky Hollywood 1067 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: behind the glass. She's gonna have fun speaking a Halloween 1068 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: and West Hollywood. Let's fly Tell Thursday,