1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Popper's Perspective is brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the official furniture store Mattress partner of the New York Giants. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: As we welcome you into the Hackensack Bridian Health podcast studio, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Keep getting Better. This week's Poppa's Perspective is with former 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: New York Giant and two time Super Bowl champion Zach Diassi. Zach, 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bob. I've been tuning in for a while. 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Glad to be here, all right. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: So, thirteen years as a Giant, nine years as a captain, 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: But you told me before we started taping, thirteen means 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: something very important to you. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Thirteen's a good number for me because it's one more 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: year than my dad, Steve Diassi, made it in the league. 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: So I love you. Dad beat you by one. For 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: those keeping track at home, I win. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: You also got to wear one one uniform. What was 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: it like coming to the Giants. You were a fourth 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: round draft pick out of Brown, You were a good 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: linebacker in college. When you came to this organization, knowing 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: that your dad had played here and knowing the history, 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: what kind of pressure did you feel? 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't feel a lot of pressure. I felt 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: a lot of you know, I was very fortunate and 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: lucky to be here. The fact that I got to 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: play for my dad's favorite team, the four he played for, 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 2: and obviously as a as a young man, you understand 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: that you know what type of organization this is. I 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: just felt very, very fortunate to be here. And the pressure. 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: You know, everyone still in my thirteenth year called me 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: Steve around the building, those who were upstairs, who were 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: around my father when he played. But to me and 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: to my family, that's an honor to be confused with 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: my dad. 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, a great You have a great combo too, right, 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I mean NFC Championship game on the road against the Niners, 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: and both of you had the important snaps we did. 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: We did when we snapped that game win in Candlestick, 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: the last game in Candlestick. Obviously my dad was there 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: and I came out and he said, you'll never believe it. 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: That's the same exact end zone where I snapped the 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: game winner to Matt Barr to go into the Super Bowl. 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: And for the long you know, the long snapper nerds 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: out there, that's a pretty special moment for that and 44 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: I also share it with my dad. 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about life after football and transitioning. Some guys 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: prepare for it, they understand it's not for long the NFL. 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: What was your thought process as you were playing for 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the Giants about what could be next for you? 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I you know, I watched my dad play 50 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: football for twelve years. I was in fourth grade when 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: he retired, and he went over to sports and radio 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: TV covering you know, the Boston markets. And I decided 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: when I was when I was young, I would intern 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: in New York City as often as I could. I 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: did exactly that, and in the last three years I 56 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: was interning at Gold and Sachs in between mini camp 57 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: and training camp and security seat upon retirement. So I 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: was always thinking about Look, football is the best job 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: to have as a young person, but you never know that. 60 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: You know when it's over. So think I like to 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: think I spent my off seasons wisely and it worked 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: out well for the transition when it came. 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: And now you're doing great with the firm L three 64 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: Capital yet to share it on talk about what you 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: do on a daily basis in that role, and then 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I want to know the lessons you learned as a player. 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: How you're applying it to what you do now? 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure. No. I'm at L three Capital. We're an 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: SBI C private equity firm. We provide growth capital to 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: lower middle market across the United States. My job is 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: a director of business Development and best relations so I 72 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: keep all relationships warm with growth buyout firms across the country, brokers, dealers, 73 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: et cetera. And we're always looking for our next investment. Today, 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: for example, I'm hosting a bunch of clients here at 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: camp and it's a fun day and and my job 76 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: is to pound the pavement and make sure we get 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: first the first look at opportunities when when they come 78 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: onto the market, it's a grind a lot like football. 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: You know, our our investment thesis is very bespoke and focused, 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: so we see a ton of deals and only a 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: certain amount past our criteria. Uh And in that regard, 82 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: you know, when I'm pounding the pavement and getting inbounds 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: on these opportunities that we see, you know, it's usually 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: the answer is usually know because we're cash flow lenders. 85 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: But you know, I think from football, you always get 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: knocked down, you know, you just keep going and you 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: had a team around you, and you want to do 88 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: it for your team. And I think that that prevails 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: in my second career, even when I was like Golden 90 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: Saxon here, no matter what happens, you just keep going 91 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: and keep improving and learning and along the way, and 92 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: that's the beauty of the game of football. 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: What were some of the lessons or do you do 94 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you hear Coach Kaughlin or one of your coaches in 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: your ear as you get into these tough situations in 96 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: a business negotiation and whatever that you're doing, were you 97 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: kind of almost default to it? 98 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean Coach Coughlin is in the back of 99 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: my head always and his inspirational quotes that the one 100 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 2: that I like to share is attached significance to everything 101 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: that you do, whether it's putting on socks. You used 102 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: to talk about putting on socks the right way like 103 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: John Wooden. And I think, you know, Coach Cofflin did 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 2: an amazing job at raising young men to prepare them 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: to be, you know, prepared for the real world after football. 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: And those who have played for him understand what I 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: mean by that. And you know, all my clocks in 108 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: my house still are Coughlin time. I operate my life 109 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: in Cofughlin time, and I think it's when I was 110 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: a rookie out of Brown I didn't really understand it 111 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, but after a year of 112 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: watching and learning and listening and obviously winning Coach Coughlin's lessons, 113 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: and he's an inspiration sort of like a father figure 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: to all of us. So it's great. 115 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: So any of the guys that played for Parcels, as 116 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: they grow older, they hit you with Parcels Parcels isms, 117 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: they kind of reference back to Parcells. As a kid 118 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: growing up, listening to your dad, I'm sure at times 119 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: you probably rolled your eyes a little bit. But now 120 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: that you've experienced the Coughlin thing, I'm sure now you're 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: doing the same thing to your kids. And now seeing that, hey, 122 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't my dad just talking like it's real. 123 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: It applies. 124 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: It really does. And my kids are finally or at 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: least my six year old rising six year old, is 126 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: starting to understand Cofflin time. I've been trying to observe 127 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: that for a while, but it's it truly is remarkable. 128 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Like my kids were here two days ago with my wife. 129 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: I was at work, and they had the opportunity to 130 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: meet Coach Coughlin. They've met him in the past, but 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: now that my kid's getting older. He came back and 132 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: showed me the picture with Coach and I immediately sent 133 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: it to my dad and we sort of got a 134 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: little choked up. You know, he's a special man and 135 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: what he did for us as young men was remarkable, 136 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: and the fact that he sort of crossed over three 137 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: generations of Diace's and provided us some great experiences along 138 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: the way is very, very special to the diass family 139 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: and forever grateful for being able to play for him. 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: When you walk into a building like this and you're 141 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: part of the history, your name is etched on two 142 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl trophies forty two and forty six, and you 143 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: played a big role in the team's really resurgence, what's 144 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to your mind when you 145 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: walk in? 146 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: Honestly, family, looking back, I was here for the thirteen years, 147 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: so I was a young man when I entered in 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: and had some great experiences and met some amazing people. 149 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: But you know, I was telling my sons on the 150 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: way here, it's it's like I grew up with everyone 151 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: in this building, and it is so nice to know 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: that I can always walk in here and just hang 153 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: out and give people hugs and catch up because it 154 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: was a huge part of my life for a long time, 155 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: and I just love coming back here. And it's very 156 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: special for me to bring my sons back here too 157 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: and sort of like let them look around and enjoy 158 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: and you know, the players, there's a lot of turnover, 159 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: and that's football, but you know, and I'm friends with 160 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: a lot of players and former players around the league. 161 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: Something different about coming back to New York. This is 162 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: the best organization in my opinion. If you pour your 163 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: heart out on the field, there will always be open 164 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: door here and welcome you with open arms. And that's 165 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: a good feeling. 166 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: So in order to be on a championship team, it's 167 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: all about team. Coaches always preached that do you get 168 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: the same rush or not the same that's the wrong question. 169 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody could ever get the same rush 170 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: of being in a winning locker room, like when you 171 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: guys beat the Cowboys and seven beating Dallas knowing Jerry 172 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: had left the tickets. We're beating farv in Green Bay, 173 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: or the San Francisco playoff game or whatever. And obviously 174 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls go without saying. Can you get close 175 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: to that in the business world as far as team 176 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: and camaraderie and celebration. 177 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you can ever match that but close, 178 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: but like, but yeah, you can get close. You can't 179 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: match you can't, but yes you can. You know, my 180 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: role now at the FIRMA matt Is, I love it 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: that my teammates are phenomenal and I feel like I 182 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: found another locker room. And I think a lot of 183 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: players when they leave sort of the NFL, they lose 184 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: that locker room feel. But now that I'm in my 185 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: new role and been there for three years, when we 186 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: get victories and we get we signed up new deals, 187 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: it's it comes. It's a close second to the feeling 188 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: that I used to have when when I was a 189 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: kid in the locker room. But I will say that 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: I remember in twenty eleven, we went up to New 191 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: England and we beat them, you know in Jellette or 192 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: at Foxborough. Jake Ballard, great Jake Ballard had a It 193 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: was just an incredible game and the Patriots were rolling 194 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: and that's you know, I'm from Massachusetts, and I will 195 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: never forget the vibe in that locker room. Obviously, the 196 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: playoff games are huge, but that was you know, mid season. 197 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: We went up there and we beat them, and I 198 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: swear to god, everyone in that locker room was ready 199 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: to just keep going, and it was the vibe was incredible. 200 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. 201 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you remember, they had this unbelievable streak 202 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: at home in which they hadn't lost any games. It 203 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: was the first meeting since the Super Bowl in which 204 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: you guys beat them, and it was like, all right, 205 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: they're going to get their event. And it was almost 206 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: like you sent a shot across their bow, like, dude, 207 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: if we meet in the Super Bowl again, you know 208 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: we're not the The eleven Giants were not the unbelievable 209 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: underdog giants. 210 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: No. 211 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: If you guys have beat them, and then when you 212 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: went up there and you beat them again on their turf, 213 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: had to give you a ton of confidence going into 214 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: the second Super Bowl. 215 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: It certainly did. And you look back, you know seven 216 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: we went toe to toe and lost that last game 217 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: so they could keep their perfect season. That gave us 218 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: some confidence. But this this game in twenty eleven, then 219 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: we're talking about was something different. We went into the 220 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Bermuda Triangle up there in Foxboro and came out with 221 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: a win, and like you know, when you stack up wins, 222 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: you know, regardless of playoff implications, like that was one 223 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: of the best ones that was a part of for sure. 224 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: As someone who's experienced highs and lows of professional sport 225 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: and done it on a championship level, do you find 226 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: sometimes like if you have a teammate at work that's 227 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: maybe in a row spot, you naturally gravitate as a 228 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: former captain of an NFL team to be able to 229 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: pick that person up a little bit. 230 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: I like to think so yeah, for sure. Look, navigating 231 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 2: and living in a locker room for as long as 232 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: I did is a privilege, but you also pick up 233 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: some social cues that you wouldn't otherwise other places of employment. 234 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: I try and bring those lessons of gelling in that 235 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: locker room with young men from all different backgrounds, shapes 236 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: and sizes, And you know, when I can add value, 237 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: just like when I raise my hand when the team 238 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: need a long snapper in O seven, I raise my 239 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: hand at work and just try and add value outside 240 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: of my role as often as I can, and everyone 241 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: sort of has that mentality there and it's just great 242 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: to be a part of Zach. 243 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: We appreciate you sharing your experiences and life after football 244 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: on this edition of Popper's Perspective. Always good to see. 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: You, Thanks Bob. Great to be here. 246 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: Popper's Perspective is brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture, 247 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: the official furniture store and Mattress partner of the New 248 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: York Football Giants.