1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeart Radio. Hello, and welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: My name's Lauren, they call me Dot. We are joined 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: as always why our superproducer palmission control a decade. Most importantly, 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: you are you. You are here, and that makes this 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. If you are 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: listening to this the day it comes out, it is 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: March eighth, which, in addition to being James Vanderbeek's birthday, 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: shout out anybody wow of sense Creek all right, eighties babies, 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: it is also International Women's Day. Yeah. The way that 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: I Heart likes to celebrate that is to have some 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: of the lady co hosts takeover for some of the 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: dude co hosts for the day. And so that is 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: why you may have noticed that Ben Matinoll are not 17 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: here or their voices are just sounding a little bit 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: higher today. Who's tiny bit? Yeah? Yeah, I can try, 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I can try to do a vocal fry. Oh I won't, 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: but yes on this episode today we are returning on 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: the show to a ludicrously gigantic, successful entertainment conglomerate, a 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: company that has built their own autonomous city state in Florida, 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: which has been talked about on the show before. The 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Guys covered it back in twenty seventeen in their episode 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: about the creation of the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Yeah, 26 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: you'll very often hear them refer to it as the Mouse, 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: which is actually one of my favorite nicknames for anything 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: in recent history. But the official name of it is Disney, 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: which there's just unless you're under a rock or under 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: the sea, there's really no way that you have in 31 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: about Disney at some point in your life. So there's 32 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: actually a lot of different conspiracies that float around about 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Disney that I find to be incredibly entertaining. For example, 34 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: that Walt Disney's head is frozen and they're going to 35 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: unfreeze it at some point. I don't know what they 36 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: would do with it, yeah, because I don't think that 37 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: cryogenic freezing. I'm sure that there's an episode on that too. 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that actually works. I'm pretty sure that 39 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: fan froze it. They would be like, well, this is 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: some interesting meat that is here. Head for dinner. Yep, 41 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: slow cookers, right, But okay, so there's that. There's also 42 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: that just his entire body is frozen. I don't know 43 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: why they are are different, separate conspiracies for the freezing 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: of his body versus the freezing of his head, but 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: that is something that I have found on the internet. 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: In terms of Disney conspiracies, there are also some other ones, 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: like that Disney helped fake the moon landing. Oh oh, 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I've heard about that one. Yeah, that 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: one's that one's interesting to me. And I mean also 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: we could have a whole other conversation about whether, like 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: there's so many conspiracies around the moon landing. Again, just 52 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: really funny to me. I'm actually surprised that I haven't 53 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: heard about more of these because I actually grew up 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: in South Florida, and you know, like like I went 55 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: to Disney all the time as a kid, Like we 56 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: took school field trips to the Disney theme parks. You 57 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: do not have that level of childhood familiarity, do you. 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Most people don't well with me being from Detroit. Like 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: our field trip thing that we did was Cedar Point, 60 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: which is in Ohio. That was our theme Park. I 61 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: missed those days. But I actually I did visit Disney 62 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: quite a few times when I was a kid, just 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: on family trips, and also when I was in middle school, 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: I was in marching band and we I don't really 65 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: remember the specifics of this, but for some reason we 66 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: took a trip to Disney and we had the opportunity 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: to march through Disney World. Yea, our marching band, along 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: with other marching bands from other schools all over the country. 69 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: So that was fun. Again, I do not remember the 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: details are specifics, but I have been to Disney World 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: quite a few times. Yeah. Yeah, But I would say 72 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: that neither of us are are a Disney human, like 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: like one of those Disney adults. Yeah. Like, it's not 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: like a like a planned destination for me on a 75 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: on a semi annual basis or anything like that. Nope. 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: And in fact, I have an entire soapbox about how 77 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: I feel about Disney movies and how they sort of 78 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: perpetuate this sort of feeding this idea of love and 79 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: romance to women is children to get them to fit 80 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: into this machine. But we don't have time. We don't 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: have time for that today. That that is not the 82 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: theory that the fringe theory or conspiracy realism that we 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: were talking about today. Today we are talking about the 84 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: idea that no one dies at Disney, which is also 85 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: a really interesting conspiracy theory to me, Specifically, this idea 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: that no one at is ever pronounced dead at Disney, 87 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: because Disney is this a magical place where no, that 88 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: doesn't happen again only yeah mothers, yes, I mean in 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the movie, in the movies, every single mom, but every 90 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: single I don't noticed that. How just everybody in Disney 91 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: is an orphan. It's actually sort of like trite at 92 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: this point. There has to be stories where it's interesting 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: to have your parents be alive. I don't know anyway, Okay, 94 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: can we do the thing? Can I do the ben thing? 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: Here are the facts. Excellent job. I actually thought that 96 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: had been was in here for a second. Phenomenal, phenomenal 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: voice work. Yeah. So the Walt Disney Company to sort 98 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: of go through the history really quickly. It started small enough. 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: It was founded on October sixteenth, nineteen twenty three, by 100 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Walt and roy O Disney, two brothers. And I just 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: want to say that if I was roy out of 102 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: this brother situation, I would be a little bit peeved. 103 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: And now my name has been a race throughout history 104 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: because I have never heard it before actually doing research 105 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: on Disney. And so yeah, when they first started it 106 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty three and a burst of creativity, they 107 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: originally named the Disney Brothers Studio and after that it 108 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: would go through several different name changes over the following decades, 109 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: and then it ultimately became the Walt Disney Company in 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. What a different world we would live 111 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: in if it had been the Roy Disney Company. But okay, 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: all right, so there is We are not a history 113 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: of Disney podcast. There are I am positive podcasts you 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: could find about that. We're just going to cover the 115 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: high points here, okay. So Walt was an artist who 116 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: began messing around with sell animation during his time at 117 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Film Ad Company, which I think is 118 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: great because I'm like, oh, that background in advertising and 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: marketing would certainly pay off. And he started a company 120 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: before he started Disney called the laugh A Graham Studio, 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: which went bankrupt in nineteen twenty three. So remember that, 122 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, if you fail at something, try try again, 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: because if Walt had given up. Followed, Watt had given 124 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: up after that bankruptcy, where would we be now, No 125 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Disney Princesses, no Disney World, say. In the aftermath of 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: that bankruptcy, Walt decided to move to la to join 127 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: his brother Roy, who was out there recovering from tuberculosis. 128 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: And so while he was there, like once he got there, 129 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: finally sold a short film that was produced by laugh Agraham, 130 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: the company that went bankrupt, Alice's Wonderland, and then signed 131 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: a contract to make six more films. Yeah, And so 132 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: with the success, the brothers went on founded their company, 133 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: persuaded some of their collaborators to join them in Hollywood, 134 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and this group of films, called the Alice Comedies, were 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: a success, as was another series based on another one 136 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: of Walt's characters, Oswald, the Lucky Rabbit. And so then 137 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: after that the story is probably going to become a 138 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: little bit more familiar to all of you, because this 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: is when Disney began work on what would be sort 140 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: of the most famous or like the impetus of the 141 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Mouse as we know it today, with the nineteen twenty 142 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: eight release of Steamboat Willie, which was when the world 143 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: was introduced to Mickey Mouse, and all of you all 144 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: are still seeing this little steamboat Willie animation before Disney 145 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: movies today because that's how integral it was to forming 146 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: the company. So, yeah, as you are clearly aware, Mickey 147 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: Mouse is one of the most recognizable cartoons in history, 148 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: and this is when what Disney really sort of sort 149 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: of took off. This success allowed Walt to kind of 150 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: conceive of the idea of making a feature film, and 151 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: what a feature film it was going to be. Snow 152 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: White in the Seven Dwarves. You've probably heard of it. 153 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: They started making it in nineteen thirty four, and it 154 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: actually like like three years into it, it was four 155 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent over budget. They had like three hundred animators 156 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: and artists and assistants on the payroll. But somehow it 157 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: turned into this beautiful film and was its success. And 158 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: we now have all of these countless princesses and etc. 159 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: To thank for those early successes that came a little 160 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise to everyone, indeed. And so after that, 161 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: as you know, multiple features, short films that ultimately grew 162 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: and grew, sprinkled in some casual races, and then we 163 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: got the Disney that we know and love today. And 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: so with the success of all of those things, ultimately 165 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: Disney started moving into the realm of theme parts. And 166 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: this is really where we're going to start getting into 167 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: what we're what we're looking at today, right because Okay, 168 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty five, Disney opens Disneyland in Anaheim, California. 169 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: And this was the first of the companies now five, five, six, six, 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a number, a bunch of theme parks, 171 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: and it was the only one designed and constructed entirely 172 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: under Walt's direct supervision. Meanwhile, the Walt disney World Resort 173 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: or disney World opened in nineteen seventy one in Florida. 174 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: And this is the one that I'm familiar with. It 175 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: is mind blowingly large. The resort is formed by four 176 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: separate theme parks, the Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Disney's Hollywood Studios, 177 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and Animal Kingdom. There are also two water parks, thirty 178 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: one themed hotels, nine non Disney hotels on the campus, 179 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: golf courses, a camping resort, and Okay, in Florida, y'all, 180 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: this was all built within what has since its inception 181 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: been a politically independent, corporately run district called the Ready 182 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Creek Improvement District, And this has been in the news 183 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: a lot over the past year or so as these 184 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: like clashes between the Disney Company and Florida's Governor Ron 185 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: de Santis, among perhaps many other factors have led to 186 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: that district losing some of its autonomy, including coming under 187 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: the purview of this governor appointed board rather than their 188 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: own appointed board. So it's now called the Central Florida 189 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: Tourism Oversight District, which, yeah, rolls off a tongue, like 190 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: like a cannonball off a duck. I don't have a 191 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: good metaphor there rolls off the time, like all of 192 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: these ketchy songs that we've come to know and love. 193 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm sure that you all have heard about 194 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: this because it's been really big in the news and 195 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: it's something that has come up, like the guys did 196 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: an episode about Reedy Creek a couple of years back, 197 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: I want to say, in twenty seventeen. And then yeah, 198 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: it's been in the news recently because of this whole 199 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: back and forth with the Scantis about the Don't Say 200 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Gay bill, because Disney came out against that bill and 201 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: then the Santis was life well, I tell you what 202 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: I'll do. I will take over Disney World. In fact, 203 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: there's a quote from the bill signing ceremony for this 204 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: which is just likely hysterical to me, so I must 205 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: include it. Yeah, today, today, the corporate kingdom finally comes 206 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: to an end. The santist said at a bill signing 207 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: ceremony in Lake Buena Vista, There's a new sheriff in town, 208 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: and accountability will be the order of the day. I'm sorry, 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: I just have to include that because the idea of 210 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis saying I'm the new sheriff at Disney World 211 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: is just so deeply unseerious to me that I just 212 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: have to I have to read it on air. But yeah, 213 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: with you know, all political thoughts aside between his time 214 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: banning books and trying to legislate LGBTQ people out of existence, 215 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: run de Santis decided to take over the corporately run 216 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: district where Disney World is currently become the new sheriff 217 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: in the district. Sure there are there are other theme 218 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: parks that are not, Thank Goodness, under the control of 219 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: Run de Santis. They also have parks in Tokyo, Hong Kong, 220 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Shanghai and Paris. Indeed, and then as of twenty two, 221 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: the company reported that the parks make something like twenty 222 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: eight point seventy one billion dollars per year. So what Yeah, 223 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: over twenty eight billion dollars a year from these combined 224 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: theme parts. Wow. I always felt like those waters were expensive. 225 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: But okay, Oh fun fact. By the way, if you 226 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: go up and ask for a couple of water at 227 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: any kiosk, at any Disney Park, they will give one 228 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: to you for you do not have to buy a 229 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: bottle of water. You can just ask for a cup 230 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: of water and they will give you one. Where does 231 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the water come from though? Is it bottled water that 232 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: they're giving people or is it just like faucet water. 233 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm just genuinely curious. Great, great question. I'm not positive 234 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: that I've ever done this, and Florida water does tend 235 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: to have a very specific flavor profile, so I think 236 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: that I would remember if I knew the answer to 237 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: copy that. Okay, sorry, I have to as somebody who 238 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: works in film, it's really difficult for me to turn 239 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: off the copy that. So everyone, please forgive me. You're 240 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna you're probably gonna hear you say it more than 241 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: once and just being being honest with you, No, I 242 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: love that it's hazard of the job. Yeah, so speaking 243 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: of like hazards of jobs, because Disney does not with 244 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: you to think that there's any hazards about working there 245 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: or visiting there, and that's certainly not of the whole Beyonce, 246 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: part of the whole vibe. So the parts really pride 247 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: themselves on having this high level of consistent experience. So 248 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: this means a ride performs exactly as planned, the same 249 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: characters interact with you, the restaurant serve the same food, 250 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: and most importantly, everyone is always going to have a 251 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: magical time. So there's no litter on the streets, no 252 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: unscheduled scary moments, and as a result, theoretically no deaths. Right, 253 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: So rumors grew and grew over the years that no 254 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: one died at Disney. This is a part of the 255 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: wholest magical experience that they're trying to concoct for you. 256 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: You can't die in this land of magic. And in 257 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: order to create the in order to do this sort 258 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: of magic trick, the theory goes that there was like 259 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: a subsidiary of Disney that had full authority to just 260 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: spear it away people like having heart attacks or an 261 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: allergic reaction, or a murder victim, or you know, like 262 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: like whatever it was, any kind of potentially deadly problem 263 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: that someone was having at Disney would just disappear, because 264 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney. And as we mentioned, this 265 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: is one of the numerous conspiracy theories to sort of 266 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: proliferate as it relates to Disney World World, and this 267 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: particular conspiracy theory got a new breath of life just 268 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: like Walt Disney's Frozen Head and last summer when a 269 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: TikTok went viral where a guy who used to work 270 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: at Disney World said that there was this whole situation 271 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: where somebody collapsed and a manager they were trying to 272 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: resuscitate him, even though it seemed to this bystander that 273 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: worked there that there was no hope for this or 274 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to go well. And a manager said, 275 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney World. Everyone is resuscitated or 276 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: attempted into resuscitation until they're off the property and then 277 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: they're formally declared dead. So this TikTok where a former 278 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: employee was saying this sort of went viral, and that's 279 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: why this conspiracy theory has gotten a new life again 280 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: like Walt Disney's Frozen Body in recent history. Okay, but 281 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: here's where it gets crazy. To be fair, there is 282 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: a vast behind the scenes network of tunnels and passageways 283 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: for employees of the Mouse to get around without being 284 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: seen by park guests. And there have been like documentaries 285 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: about this. You can even book a tour sometimes, so well, 286 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: let you see a little bit of it at Disney 287 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: at Disney's Magic Kingdom in Disney World. Like when they 288 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: built there in Florida, the company had so much more 289 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: land and time and money to throw at the project 290 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: than they had had in California, and so they planned 291 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: it to incorporate this unseen system to keep that magic running. 292 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: And it's called I love this the Utilador system. That 293 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: sounds so diabolical. It sounds like a villain layer. If 294 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: I ever become a super villain, which is entirely possible 295 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: for my life trajectory, I might have to call my 296 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: layer the Utilador. But yeah, if you've never heard about this, 297 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: system's wild. So like when you're like when you're in 298 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: Disney World, what you're walking on the ground that you're 299 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: walking on is almost like the second story of a 300 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: vast building, and the first story is a network of 301 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: tunnels and services and operations where they have infrastructure to 302 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: monitor and troubleshoet like everything that's happening in the park, 303 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: all right. So they also have they have golf course 304 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: down there that are transporting people like no, like seriously 305 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: dead as they have like golf courts that are traveling 306 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: around the like costume staff and they're handlers, and they 307 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: have a pneumatic trash system. Like it's crazy down there. Yeah, 308 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: that they can control everything in the park from down there, 309 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: and it's where like they have like locker rooms and 310 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: break rooms for the staff and you know, like because 311 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: it is Disney and it's proprietary, I guess, but perhaps 312 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: more because it's Disney and they like being secretive. They're 313 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: a little bit heck and secretive about how how all 314 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: of this works. Like even if you do take that tour, 315 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to use your cell phone the entire 316 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: time you're on it. And the booking page for this 317 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: tour specifically refers to the utilatour. That's what it's called 318 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: the Utila door system. As an urban legend. Now you 319 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: said that this is like the first floor, and I 320 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: can tell you from personal experience having grown up in Florida, 321 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: it's not a basement because we don't have basements in Florida. 322 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: The water table there is so close to the surface 323 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: that you don't that would be an underground swimming pool, 324 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be a particularly sanitary one. So it's 325 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: technically not a basement. But hey, speaking of technicalities, we 326 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: were talking about dead people. Yeah, So the idea is 327 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: behind this conspiracy theory is that instead of people being 328 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: pronounced dead or dying at Disney World, that this cabal 329 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: is spiriting away people as they're dying through this network 330 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: of tunnels underneath Disney World and getting them off the property. 331 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: So they quote no one dies at Disney is sort 332 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: of what the guy was saying in the TikTok and 333 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: also just sort of a belief that people have. Is 334 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: this true? I don't know. I think we might have 335 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: to take a quick break. So we are going to 336 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: go to some as possibly about Disney World, who knows, 337 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: maybe if you're in Florida especially, and then we come back. 338 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: We're going to look at this idea for real, for real, like, 339 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: does anybody die at Disney? Has anyone ever died at Disney? 340 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: We'll find out more after the break and we have returned. 341 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: I hope you all enjoyed that. I hope you all 342 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed that ad break. Oh yeah, I want you to 343 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: enjoy everything. I mean, it's not really up to me. 344 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want. I don't have any 345 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: real effect on it. But okay, spoiler alert, Yes, people 346 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: have died in Disney. People have probably died everywhere on 347 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: this planet that people can reach, So that has occurred, 348 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: and people have in fact legally been pronounced dead on 349 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Disney property. Just for one example, in nineteen eighty four, 350 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: there was unfortunately a small airplane crash in an Epcot 351 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: parking lot where one person was pronounced dead at the scene, 352 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: and that is not the only one. Yeah, there's actually 353 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: a really interesting list. I don't want to say interesting, 354 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: because this is people, you know, being killed or dying 355 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: or getting injured, and so I don't want to use 356 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: the word interesting because that's a little insensitive to these 357 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: people's memories. But interesting in the sense that it completely 358 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: sort of just debunked this entire myth or conspiracy that 359 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: people are walking around is spousing because there have actually 360 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: been several people that have been pronounced dead on Disney property. 361 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: You're like at Disney World. Yeah, yeah. So for example, 362 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: February eighth, nineteen ninety a worker was killed at Disney 363 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Hollywood Studios when he fell thirty three feet to his 364 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: death from a scaffold while working on an air conditioning duck. 365 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: So thirty three feet not a good not a good 366 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: way to go. And then on June thirteenth, two thousand 367 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: and five, a four year old boy died of a 368 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: heart attack after riding the Mission Space ride at Epcot, 369 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: which is super sad a four year old boy. And 370 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: then some more. In two thousand and seven, a forty 371 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: four year old man offered a heart attack while on 372 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: a ride at Animal Kingdom, and the heart defibrillators were 373 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: available in the area. Two thousand and nine, a monorail 374 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: driver was killed on his train crash into another mona 375 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: rail and so he was pronounced dead. And then also 376 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: there have been some incidents of like stuntman being injured 377 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: and dying. A stuntman at Hollywood Studios died after suffering 378 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: a head injury while practicing a tumbling role. During a 379 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: rehearsal for the Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular show. Yeah, 380 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: I remember that one. Yeah. And then also there was 381 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: a boy, like a little boy that got eaten by 382 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: an alligator or drowned by an alligator, and that was 383 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: at a resort. And so I don't know how this 384 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: whole like, with this idea of no one dies at 385 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Disney World. I don't know how technical we want to 386 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: be about what constitutes Disney World versus you know, the 387 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: larger part of the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think 388 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: I think it's more like like in the theme park itself. 389 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: I think I think you're allowed to die wherever you 390 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: wherever else you want on the property. But they're like not, 391 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: You're like not within the purview of Cinderella's castle, Like 392 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: please move that along, Oh my god, but no, seriously. 393 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: So that's that's hilarious because um, that's sort of one 394 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: of the building blocks for this entire conspiracy, the idea 395 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: that nobody is physically allowed to die at Disney or 396 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: be pronounced dead at Disney because they'll be spirited away 397 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: through these seas or they'll do like unnecessary resuscitation on 398 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: you or something like that. Yeah. But but but there 399 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: are all of these examples of right, where people have 400 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: in fact died and been pronounced dead on Disney grounds, 401 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: on the Walt Disney grounds. So I feel like that 402 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: that's that's a clearer this is a clearer statement than 403 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: we usually get for any kind of fringe theory. It's 404 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: just like, oh no, that's untrue. Cool uh period. And 405 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: they're even like Snopes looked at it at some point, 406 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: and on the Snopes website they say, the claim here 407 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: is not that no one has ever actually died on 408 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Disney theme park property, but whether Disney can legitimately make 409 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: the claim that no one has ever died at a 410 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: Disney park because they ensure that any declaration of death 411 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: takes place outside of park property. Uh. Tricky, tricky, Disney. 412 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: We see what you're up to. Um, you're trying to 413 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: make people have a good time. I guess, I guess right. 414 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: Like Like along those lines, I mean, they do have 415 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: plans for you for for should you encounter a medical emergency, 416 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: Like there's there's first aid centers with the with registered 417 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: nurses and over the counter meds that you can go to. Uh, 418 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: there's there's local urgent care and emergency facilities that they 419 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: will transport you too if you need it. Um, But yeah, 420 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean more serious issues do happen. Like just from 421 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of twenty twenty one October through December, 422 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: Disney World registered nine emergencies requiring a hospital stay of 423 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: twenty four hours or more, including like stroke like symptoms, 424 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: cardiac symptoms, seizures. And I mean, like there's a there's 425 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: a nugget of truth to this idea of being whisked 426 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: away by you know, Cinderella's my sert snow whites, little 427 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: friendly forest friends, because like emergency services can access different 428 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: areas of the park through that utilidore system. Although, like 429 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it, and all of the reports that 430 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: I've read are that, like the emergency services that are 431 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: on call for this kind of thing, aside from any 432 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: in park staff were they previously went through the Reedy 433 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Creek dispatch system, and since that no longer exists as 434 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: of about a week ago as of this recording, I'm 435 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: like wondering whether any changes will be implemented to emergency 436 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: systems with this new government governance happening. Yeah, that'll be 437 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting to see, especially with ROUNDA Santis being 438 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: the new sheriff there, like, how that's going to handle 439 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: from here on out? Correct? But yeah, I mean it 440 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: makes sense. Obviously Disney's not gonna like advertise deaths or 441 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: emergencies being there, sort of the same with any large 442 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: corporation or organization of its size and nature that they're 443 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: going to seem to minimize liability or minimize bad news, 444 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, So it makes sense that they're not widely reported, 445 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: but they're definitely Unfortunately for the people who believed or 446 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: like put stock in the idea that no one was 447 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: allowed to die on Disney property, like that is not 448 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: actually true. There's a little grain of truth there as 449 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: it relates to when somebody is quote like sort of 450 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: this nebulous idea of when somebody is pronounced dead or 451 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: like versus dying. But yeah, there have actually been people 452 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: declared dead on the property. And I guess at that 453 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: point you can also get into like, like what is 454 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: dying mean anyway? I mean, you know, we have different 455 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: no legit, I don't know the answer to either of 456 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: these questions. Um, and of course this isn't I mean, 457 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: if you want to look at other theme park or 458 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: theme park type environments. Again, people die everywhere. Um Like, 459 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: if you want to look at Vegas, about one thousand, 460 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: one hundred tourists die while visiting Vegas every year. And 461 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: I don't have I don't have really good sources of 462 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: this one for for this next fact, but I but 463 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: I read that, Like, if you die in a Vegas 464 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: hotel room, if the staff reported you dead there, they 465 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: would have to quarantine the room for two weeks. So therefore, 466 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: if anyone has such a serious emergency that they pass, 467 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: they will whisk you away, like like Cinderella's mouse friends, 468 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: to a different area of the hotel so that they 469 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: can keep that room open. Wow, that's disconcerting. I mean, 470 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: I completely believe it because capitalism and like money, But 471 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, if I died in a Vegas 472 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: hotel room, I would one hundred percent haunted for at 473 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: least the next two weeks. You know, once we get 474 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: the thirteen daymark, maybe I'll leave. So I guess I 475 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: understand the reasoning for quarantining it for fourteen days. But 476 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's wild because of course, if somebody 477 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: knew you know what I mean, if somebody was checking 478 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: into a hotel and knew that somebody died there the 479 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: previous day, they would probably be a little bit uncomfortable 480 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: about staying there. So I one hundred percent believe like 481 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I know you said that you 482 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: don't have specific exact sources because this is also probably 483 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: not something that people would admit, but right, and see 484 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: that believe it? Yeah, right totally. And like the reason 485 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: that I don't have really good sources is that everywhere 486 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: that I saw that was kind of reporting this was 487 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: saying like, you can't get official confirmation of it because 488 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: the resorts won't talk about it and journalists will be 489 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: blacklisted if they talk about it. So again, I one 490 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent believe that, just knowing what I know about 491 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: the world, I'm one hundred percent leave that. Yeah, yeah, 492 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: no doubt. But yeah, so just for comparison, right, Las 493 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Vegas has about thirty eight point eight million visitors per 494 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: year as a twenty twenty, and then the Vegas metro 495 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: area has a standing population of just under three million 496 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: non tourists. Is what we're going to say, what we're 497 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: going to call the people that aren't visiting, which reminds 498 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: me is funny because I saw I think it was 499 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: on the Grammys where like bad Money or somebody was 500 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: singing it. It It was like speaking in non English, and 501 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: I just think it's really funny, or like singing in 502 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: non English. That apparently the two languages are English and 503 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: non English. So the two categories of people in Las 504 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: Vegas are like tourists and non tourists. That's what we're 505 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: gonna go with. But by way of contrast, Disneyland has 506 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: about like eight point five million visitors per year and 507 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: a Disney World has over fifty eight million per years, 508 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: So that's sixty million per year, not counting international parks. 509 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, just for comparison, the population of 510 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: Reedy Creek is twenty four not twenty four thousand, not 511 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: twenty four million, like twenty four people as of the 512 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: most recent US census. Wow, I had no idea that 513 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: that Disney World was comparable to Vegas in terms of 514 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: visitor visitor numbers. That's that's fine, that's okay. No, I 515 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: mean they're they're very similar. Like it's it's all, it's 516 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: all a show, right, what happens in Disney stays in Disney. 517 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: And then yeah, I don't know, like this this grain 518 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: of truth about this Disney theory is really compelling, and like, 519 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: comparatively speaking, given the numbers that we just gave about 520 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: the amount of people that die in Las Vegas, right, 521 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: like a hundred excuse me, eleven hundred tourists die while 522 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: visiting Vegas each year, is what we said, right, And 523 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: so if you look at that being reported versus just 524 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: the handful or so of deaths that we've been able 525 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: to list coming from the Orlando Sentinel and the Florida 526 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: Injury Law website, then it does seem like the Mouse 527 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: is sort of succeeding in continuing this whole idea of 528 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney. Comparatively speaking, if we look 529 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: at those two tourist destinations, sure, sure, And I mean, 530 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: of course, Vegas is a very different gig. I mean 531 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot more drinking and debauchery, and says who, 532 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: I sure don't. I can't personally speak to the amount 533 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: of debauchery that's happening at Disney World. And I also, 534 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say anything else because I don't 535 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: want the mouse to come after me. So no way 536 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: more drinking and debauchery Inas Vegas. Huh, you still can 537 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: only drink and I believe two locations in Disney's Magic 538 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Kingdom because Walt wanted to wanted that to be a 539 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: place where kids were not subjected to that kind of behavior. 540 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: You can drink in the other Disney parks. They do 541 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: have like beer for sale at Chaos at the other 542 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: three in Orlando, but you cannot thee that the two 543 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: places are like wine or beer with dinner at Cinderella's 544 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: Castle and Bell's Castle. Wow. I actually did not know that, 545 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: so I just learned that today. Thank you. That's super interesting. 546 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: So you said that's that Magic Kingdom people can't drink, 547 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: but they can at the other ones. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah. 548 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: I have been to Disney World as an adult. They 549 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: have a drinking age, so that's not something that I 550 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: would have remembered, but that's sort of fascinating. But I 551 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: do definitely remember seeing, you know, for example, restaurants at 552 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Epcot where I know as a child, I saw people 553 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: drinking there, like yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, it's it's as 554 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: going as an adult is a really trippy experience. Um, 555 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: I I enjoyed except for the people. I think if 556 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: I had a lot of money, I would like going 557 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot better. If I could just like buy out 558 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: the park or something for a day, because just the 559 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: sheer number of humans, I'm like, oh, this is Mickey's great, 560 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: but why are there humans talking to me? I don't 561 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, however, I will say, and like, 562 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: Disney isn't a sponsor that I'm that I'm personally aware of. 563 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: If they are, they're watching us. Um but uh but no, Um. 564 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: The magic is intact like they do such a wildly 565 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: good job of like pumping in sounds and and sense 566 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: throughout the park that you you don't really notice until 567 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: you start thinking about it, and then you're like, there's 568 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: no reason for like, like, no one is actually producing 569 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: candy on the street. It shouldn't taste, it shouldn't smell 570 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: like like candy is being made here. Why is that 571 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: bush playing music? I don't know? And so yeah, like 572 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: that sense of magic, it extends to not having corpses 573 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: littered the streets. I suppose. Oh my god, I'm sorry. 574 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: That was a really funny visual to me, and it 575 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: should not have been, because people dying is not funny. 576 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry everybody, really it's not. But people do die, 577 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: and according to sources that I've seen that's at a 578 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: rate at about approximately one hundred and six per minute 579 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: around the world. They're one hundred and six people dying 580 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: every minute. And so the fact of the matter is 581 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: is just given the stats, people are going to happen. 582 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: Some people are going to be taking their last breath 583 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: on Disney grounds. There's no hospital there, you know. So 584 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: again we talked about what this idea of the equal 585 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: definition of dying or you know, when somebody is dying 586 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 1: versus dead, But just with the numbers, somebody's taking their 587 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: last breath underneath Cinderella's Castle, and there have actually been 588 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: literally there have been people pronounced dead on Disney grounds. So, 589 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: like I said, unfortunately for those wishing to believe that 590 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: no one dies at Disney, that is not in fact true. 591 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: So now that we have established that, that is just 592 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: about going to do it for us. But we would 593 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. What do you think about 594 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: all of this? Have you heard this conspiracy before or 595 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: any other conspiracies about Walt Disney? Have you personally died 596 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: at Disney World? Please tell us your story. And there 597 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: are a bunch of ways to reach us here at 598 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know, which I will 599 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: detail and just a moment. But first, Lauren, can you 600 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: please tell everybody where they can find you they want 601 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: to check you out after giving this a listen? Oh 602 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: heck sure, yeah if you want me to. If you 603 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: want to hear me talk about or dead people. Um, 604 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm on a show called American Shadows. It's a historical 605 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: true crime kind of kind of show. Um. It's with 606 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Menky's company Grim and Mild, so it's got that 607 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: same kind of vibe. And uh yeah, I'm also on 608 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: a on a short form science show called brain Stuff 609 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: and on a food show where we talk about dead 610 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: people more often than perhaps you would think. Um. Uh, 611 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: that's a one's called Savor and it's with I think 612 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: I think Annie Reese might have shown up on stuff 613 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: they don't even know before. Yeah. Yeah, a friend of 614 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: the show. I mean you're both friends of the show. 615 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 1: Oh thank you that I don't know I'm a friend 616 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: of me. Um. But yeah, so so that is that 617 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: is where you can find me, um or if you 618 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: want to look for me on Instagram. I am at 619 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: Vogel Bomb. 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