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Speaker 1: So you personally, let it. This is like kind of

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Speaker 1: Like the better we play a front is gonna help

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Speaker 1: you know, try to be the best leader that I

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Speaker 1: can be in my position, but it's just hard to

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Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a shock. You know, that's really

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Speaker 1: awful all I can say. And aside from obviously winning games, Uh,

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Speaker 1: from a defensive perspective, what do you think this defense

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Speaker 1: a playoff team? Um? I think you just play four quarters,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think a lot of times, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: we we show signs of greatness and we can be great.

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Speaker 1: I think there's times on third downs some teams will

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Speaker 1: be lights out and just unstoppable on defense on third down.

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Speaker 1: Then there's times where we you know, give up too

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Speaker 1: many players on third down. But uh, I feel like

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Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the game. You know, It's

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Speaker 1: like it's not a perfect game, but you just want

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Speaker 1: to work as much as possible to like make it. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, a full four quarter games start fast and fast,

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Speaker 1: I mean and strong and uh you know, red zone,

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Speaker 1: all the all the big things. Just try to finish