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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and well this is the start of hour number

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Speaker 1: two of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: And Matt, this is right in your wheelhouse. I'm take

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Speaker 1: a little look here at coming out of the draft,

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Speaker 1: a little five round rookie mock draft for Dynasty.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I'm a little behind on this, so I'm interested

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Speaker 3: to dig in. I don't even know what the consensus is.

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Speaker 3: And for people don't know, this is the rookie drafts

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Speaker 3: are starting this week now, you know. I mean I'm

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Speaker 3: in six leagues. I think they'll all be done within

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Speaker 3: the next two weeks or so. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This was done by Marcus Mosher, who is.

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Speaker 3: It's funny. I had the Stan Marcus up today. We

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Speaker 3: were going to do a podcast, except I didn't have

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Speaker 1: He obviously did it here without you.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's right what we were talking about.

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Speaker 1: Persevered. Uh So he has a number one overall pick

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Speaker 3: He's just been like he's been a slam dunk for months, right.

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Speaker 1: It didn't really matter where he went. That was. So

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Speaker 1: this is going to look different than just taking the

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Speaker 1: player as well. These guys are all drafted first, so

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Speaker 1: we're going to put them in that order.

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Speaker 3: Very different. Where they landed at matters absolutely. I mean

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Speaker 3: a fourth round running back, like I haven't seen the list.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what Mark Marcus put together. But like

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Speaker 3: the Texas running back Blue who ends up with Dallas

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Speaker 3: without much competition, and they drafted a guard in the

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Speaker 3: first round, even though he's a fourth or fifth round pick.

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Speaker 1: They basically said, you're my boy Blue. Yeah, my boy Blue.

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Speaker 1: He was shot up boards, you know.

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Speaker 3: So, and again, if you don't have familiar with Dynasty,

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Speaker 3: you keep these You draft rookies now, and you keep

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Speaker 3: them the duration of their you we can trade them,

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Speaker 3: you can trade, of course, but you're you're taking them

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Speaker 3: to add to your team for as long as.

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Speaker 1: You want them.

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Speaker 3: Uh. At two, he has cam word with the Titans, Okay,

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Speaker 3: these must be super flex then yeah, okay, because without

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Speaker 3: Ward he's usually going late first in terms of standard stuff.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of the Dynasty leagues are super super flex.

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Speaker 1: At three, he has Omari and Hampton with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of where it's interesting. It's kind of messy there.

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Speaker 3: It's real messy, like in my league that I have

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Speaker 3: the worst team and I have the second pick in

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm probably gonna shop the pick. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you know, and Hampton eventually will be the guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the first round running backs go high and die, right,

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Speaker 1: At five, he is Travis Hunter that's.

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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville is going to play him primarily at

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Speaker 3: It's a good landing spot for fantasy. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: He's going to be like number three maybe, right, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, none of them are real clean. At eighty is

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Speaker 1: Colston loved them with the Bears. I don't love that either.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pass catchers in Chicago all of

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Speaker 3: tight end, he'd better be. Yeah. I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like this one at all. Tenny as

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Speaker 3: He would be my second quarterback, yeah, you know. I

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Speaker 3: And I'm kicking it around like that's a ton I'd

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Speaker 3: Don't know who can take it. Two right, the guy

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Speaker 1: At twelve is Matthew Golden with the Packers. But again

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Speaker 3: Their light ends catch a lot of balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, they throw the ball to the running backs.

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Speaker 1: he should be all right this year, right, right, right?

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Speaker 1: How many rookie catches are there for these two guys?

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Speaker 3: My hunch is DJ Moore won't be there much longer,

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Speaker 1: Year, right, I mean not going anywhere right now.

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Speaker 3: And this isn't uncommon in Dynasty rookie drafts, but how

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Speaker 3: many of those, For you folks that don't play Dynasty

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Speaker 3: how many of these names you actually check that box

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Speaker 3: It takes a while. Definitely not Burden.

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Speaker 1: This guy would be a guy I would have in

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Speaker 1: the first round. RJ. Harvey with the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: It's a great landing spot. He's a good player.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be their primary back unless he just

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Speaker 3: There's a theory out there in Dynasty that to almost

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Speaker 3: treat running backs like the three draft. He might be

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Speaker 3: the best non genty rookie running back this year for fantasy.

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Speaker 1: Might be I mean he might not. He might not

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Speaker 3: It's better?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they have some other backs. He's in there,

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Speaker 3: They apparently love him. They drafted them high.

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Speaker 1: They took him ahead of Johnson, right right.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm not sure it's I might for this year,

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Speaker 1: Uh At. Seven is Cam Skatabo with the Giants.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any interest in that.

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Speaker 1: Eight Harold Fannin with the bro like that doesn't do

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Speaker 1: Trevor atn with the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: It's not bad, but he's the second back they drafted

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Speaker 3: I'm just on the thirty thirteen. Yeah. Yeah, he's a panther,

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Speaker 3: which is crowded back.

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Speaker 1: Uh. Four to three is j Equavius Marx with the Texans.

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Speaker 3: You think Sanders is a starter anywhere? Not this opening day?

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Speaker 1: I mean if he gets traded, he's it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they drafted a guard, you know, like, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Four to six is Devin Neil with the Saints.

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Speaker 3: I don't hate that either. I don't know what to

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Speaker 1: For eight, Jalen Royals with the Kansas City Chiefs, it's

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Speaker 3: I think I see some Ratie Rice there. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Four to nine is Dante Thornton with the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Possibly he never.

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Speaker 1: Four eleven is Dylan Gabriel with the Browns. Okay, I

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Speaker 3: He never moved the needle for me. I didn't love

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Speaker 1: Five is Will Howard with the uh, Steelers five to one, they.

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Speaker 1: He's putting a lot on the name scen Uh. He

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Speaker 1: It doesn't do anything for him.

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Speaker 1: Five to five is Gunner Helm tight end with the.

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Speaker 1: These are real throw. Five to six is Tory Horton

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Speaker 1: Uh. Five to seven is Film MafA with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: That's a problem. And he was a late pick, but

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Speaker 3: I I mean if we did this before the draft,

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Speaker 3: I had taken him in the third round.

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Speaker 1: Five ten is Cal McCord quarterback with the Eagles. He

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Speaker 1: is completely different from.

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Speaker 3: The starter, totally different from the start.

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Speaker 1: You hope he gets traded in a year or something

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Speaker 1: or something happened best he's number three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough climb. They like McKee too.

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Speaker 1: Five to eleven is Kalel Mullins running back with the Titans.

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Speaker 3: At least he's a bigger back compared.

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Speaker 1: To the Yeah, right, I would take a shot on

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Speaker 1: that one. He could be the short artist guy. And

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Speaker 1: then five twelve is Riley Leonard, quarterback with the Colts.

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Speaker 3: He runs but he's a clear three. Yeah, and they

457
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Speaker 3: may draft ahead of him too.

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Speaker 1: This kind of gives you an idea here. It's a

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Speaker 1: bad class. How quickly things fall.

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Speaker 3: Off terrible class. Yeah. I mean think about last year,

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Speaker 3: especially in the Super Flex, all those first round quarterbacks

462
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Speaker 3: were going high.

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Speaker 1: Or wide receivers. Right, Yeah, I'm gonna be trading a

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Speaker 1: lot of picks for young players or future picks. I

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Speaker 1: would if you don't, I would take a shot of

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Speaker 1: a bunch of these running backs.

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Speaker 3: That's what my A lot of my plan was that

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Speaker 3: maybe you know, two thirds of my picks might just

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Speaker 3: be running backs.

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Speaker 1: Like if you didn't trade out of those spots's what

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Speaker 1: pictures you say, ahead.

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Speaker 3: I have in so many different leagues, but I mean

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Speaker 3: the one that I was offered today, I had one two,

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Speaker 3: one five, and one twelve.

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Speaker 1: So once one two, I would I'm taking Amari and Hampton.

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Speaker 1: At one five, I'm taking maybe Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 3: I would say Johnson or an Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Guy or R. J. Harvey. And then twelve I'm taking

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Speaker 1: whoever if one of those guys is left over, maybe

480
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Speaker 1: or maybe I take quin Shawn Judkins or what. I

481
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Speaker 1: just take three running backs and say two of these

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Speaker 1: guys are going to hit. That's the thing, is maybe

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Speaker 1: all three of them doing. Now I've got something I

484
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Speaker 1: can trade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's there's a lot of logic

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Speaker 3: to that, because I don't love the receivers. I don't know,

487
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Speaker 3: like it might gonna be thrilled to have Tech McMillan

488
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Speaker 3: for the next four years. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's even my starting him over George Pickens, No, probably

490
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Speaker 3: not starting him over T Higgins No, probably not. You know,

491
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Speaker 3: like it would take a lot. I mean, there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of good receivers in the league.

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Speaker 1: When when can Tech McMillan start for them? But these

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Speaker 1: running backs, I think, given the path always opens up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it takes they're tradable, and they're tradable. Yeah, Like if

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Speaker 1: I that's the thing, if I'm trading three running backs

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Speaker 1: for Jamar Chase, now I'm gonna have to think about it.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of the thought, right, If.

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Speaker 1: These guys are all it's let's let's say they're all

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Speaker 1: nine hundred yard backs, where eight hundred yard backs is rookie.

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Speaker 1: I could start two of them every week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean a lot of these leagues too. You

503
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Speaker 3: start an extra guy. I mean there's two flex spots

504
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Speaker 3: and things like that.

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Speaker 1: Cha, Chase is nice to have.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean Chase you can always turn into

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Speaker 3: future picks in a heartbeat, of course. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: the most coveted ass. The running backs you can turning,

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Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, these guys.

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Speaker 1: One of these guys goes out and runs for fourteen

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Speaker 1: hundred yards as a rookie, is like, I'm set.

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Speaker 3: Now you're set, and that could be Hampton. Yeah, I

513
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Speaker 3: mean there's a strong case for Hampton too. Yeah, but man,

514
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Speaker 3: usually two is neighbors. You're real happy about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not a great year anyways. That was a rookie

516
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Speaker 1: fantasy draft there for the Dynasty leagues. From Marcus Mosher

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Speaker 1: on the thirty third team, We're gonna get to a break.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt there was a piece here on getting

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Speaker 1: the thirty third team by Ian Valentino talking about the

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Speaker 1: teams that improved the most in the twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: NFL draft. Okay, and I think there needs to be

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Speaker 1: a caveat there with this because once again I think

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Speaker 1: people are overlooking the fact that the Steelers treated their

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Speaker 1: second round draft pick to acquire DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if the Raiders are on this list,

532
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Speaker 3: but they got a starting quarterback out of their draft pick,

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Speaker 3: right too, you know, like that helps. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: a lot better than Aidan O'Connell. I mean, that's a

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Speaker 3: lot They'll take DK Metcalf over Van Jefferson, you know

536
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Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, I think that has to

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Speaker 3: be factored in.

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Speaker 1: Well, they he does have the Raiders as the number

539
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Speaker 1: one team on here, but.

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Speaker 3: I guess gent no matter what would be an immediate boost.

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Speaker 1: And their draft cluss was Ashton Genty, Jack Beck, Darian Porter,

542
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Speaker 1: Caleb Rodgers offensive lineman out of Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: A bit of a reach there, Yeah, get the.

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Speaker 1: Charles Granitt picked ninety nine, which was right about where.

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Speaker 3: He'd say, if one of those two hits, they'll be happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Dante and this kind of overdrafted him

547
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Speaker 1: at one.

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Speaker 3: I thought so too. I thought Al Davis showed up

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Speaker 3: for a pick.

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Speaker 1: There's tipping the cap to the history of the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: Then they got the Tonka Hemingway, the defensive tackle out

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina won thirty five. JJ Pageese, the defensive

553
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Speaker 1: tackle out of Mysterious at Everybody loved them taking Tommy Mallott,

554
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Speaker 1: the quarterback out of Montana State, and then following that

555
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Speaker 1: up with Cam Miller, the quarterback out of North Dakota

556
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Speaker 1: State at two thirteen and two fifteen. I think they

557
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Speaker 1: played in the title game or whatever. They're gonna make

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Speaker 1: Malot a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: That is so Tom Brady hits. It's Julian Edelman coming

560
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Speaker 3: out of Kent State. It's exactly who that guy is.

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Speaker 1: And he runs well and does all that, but she

562
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Speaker 1: don't know if he can play wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: No idea total projection. Like Denver's last round pick was

564
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Speaker 3: a basketball player. He had five catches. They were all touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they called him a tight end, but he's

566
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Speaker 1: really not a football player. So they like the Browns

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Speaker 1: took two quarterbacks, but a lot of picks, but they

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Speaker 1: had a ton of picks, right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's good for the Raiders. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a good Raider draft. I don't know if they're drastically better,

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Speaker 3: but I mean if you have the offensive rookie of

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Speaker 3: the year and gent runs for fifteen hundred, that sure helps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, it's not gonna be bad.

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Speaker 3: No, it will be bad. And they didn't even give

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Speaker 3: them Juno Smith's credit.

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Speaker 1: Right, which I think they should have.

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Speaker 3: Find they should they should, Yeah, because they're they're just

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Speaker 3: they're with that they maybe should be number one.

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Speaker 1: There weren't many. There weren't any trades during the draft.

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Speaker 1: No players moved, No players moved at all. So all

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Speaker 1: the all the pre draft trades for players, it was

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Speaker 1: that one and it was Meca meals.

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Speaker 3: Those are it? Those are the two big Yeah. Yeah

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Speaker 3: for picks for.

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Speaker 1: Picks, like he has the Cardinals next, Okay, Cardinals got

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Speaker 1: Walter Nolan. Then they've drafted Will Johnson at forty seven,

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Speaker 1: the cornerback at the Michigan which is good value.

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Speaker 3: I love that goes with Kaleis Campbell in kind of

589
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Speaker 3: a Cam Hayword kind of way. Yeah, that's a good,

590
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Speaker 3: good spot for him. Yeah, seven's on Will Johnson. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's something, there's a miss, but if he hits seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: They took Jordan Birch, the big edgeresher out of Oregon.

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Speaker 1: At one fifteen, they took Cody Simon, the linebacker out

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Speaker 1: of Ohio State. They then at one seventy four, took

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Speaker 1: Denzel Burke, the cornerback out of Ohio State. At two eleven,

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Speaker 1: they took guard to Hayden Connor out of Texas, and

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Speaker 1: then at two twenty five they took Kitan Crawford, safety

598
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Speaker 1: at in Nevada.

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Speaker 3: I mean, clearly a very very defensive heavy draft, which

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Speaker 3: they needed. So a lot of those d guys will

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Speaker 3: play early, I would think, Yeah, okay, I mean so

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Speaker 3: they're therefore I guess they could be on the list.

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Speaker 1: But is that markedly better than some other teams that they're.

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Speaker 3: At A two on this I'm shocked or two? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I kind of shocked too. They helped themselves, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean every team did right, right, right, I was

607
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Speaker 3: shocked when you said them too.

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Speaker 1: Three is Seattle?

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Speaker 3: Okay, again, but you go heavy on one side of

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Speaker 3: the ball.

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Speaker 1: They had a ton of picks, A ton of picks, right,

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Speaker 1: They took Gray's Abel the guard out of North Dakota State.

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Speaker 3: I don't probably a center of guard for him, but

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be good.

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Speaker 1: At thirty five, they took Nick Amuwari, the safety out

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Speaker 1: of South Carolina. Fifty.

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Speaker 3: People like that pick more than I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fifty. They took Elijah Rojo, the tight end out

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Speaker 1: of Miami. Ninety two. They took Jylen Milroe quarterbacks to

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Speaker 1: make him better now though no one. They took Riley Mills,

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Speaker 1: the defensive lineman at a Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't do a lot for me.

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Speaker 1: It won sixty six. They took Tory Horton, the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver from Colorado State.

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Speaker 3: He might red shirt with injury.

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Speaker 1: At one seventy five, they took Robbie Oates's the uh.

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Speaker 3: You take a tight end full back?

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, tight end out of Alabama. It won

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Speaker 1: ninety two. They took Bryce Cavallet do guard out of Kansas.

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Speaker 1: I never even heard of that guy.

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Speaker 3: There's some seventh rounders.

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Speaker 1: Especially the interior law offensive line, and some of the

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Speaker 1: linebackers I'd never heard of. Yeah, Bears took a linebacker

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Speaker 1: out of Maryland in the fifth round. I'd never heard of.

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Speaker 1: Two twenty three, they took Damian Martinez, a running back

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Speaker 1: out of Miami.

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Speaker 3: I like it, but he's your third back. You have

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Speaker 3: to make you that much better.

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Speaker 1: At two thirty four, they took Mason Rickman, offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: from Iowa.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty shocked there on this list too.

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00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: And at two thirty eight they took Ricky White, the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver from UNLV.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I assume he thinks n u Aurian is able

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Speaker 3: or immediate big time contributors, and a row Hoo is

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Speaker 3: gonna yeah, I mean he'll fight with fant I would think.

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Speaker 3: But okay, I don't look at them like, oh wow, markedly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're doing twelve games now, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see that.

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00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 3: I don't really either.

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Speaker 1: Next up is the Ravens. Okay, yeah, Malachi starts at

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. Mike Green would carry a lot of weight.

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Speaker 1: Mike Mike Green at fifty nine, Emery Jones at ninety one.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna move, probably move in the guard. I think

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Speaker 1: that those two dudes are gonna fight for guard spots.

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Speaker 1: They took Teddy Buchanan, the linebacker out of California, at

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Speaker 1: one twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know a ton about him either, that's a bad.

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Speaker 1: Undersized and right. Yeah, one of the four name wrong too,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Carson Vincent, the offensive lineman out of Alabama

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Speaker 1: A and m uh at one seventy eight Bill Alcone,

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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Western Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I got a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: One Tyler Loop, the kicker out of Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I guess you gotta give kickers a little credit for

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Speaker 3: this because they're kind of a starter. I mean, does

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Speaker 3: he play more than the corner?

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Speaker 1: How many kickers, though, have we've seen that have been

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Speaker 1: drafted that don't work out? All the time. It happens

670
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Speaker 1: all the time. Two oh three Lejonte Wester, wide receiver

671
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Speaker 1: out of Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Again depth depth.

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Speaker 1: Uh to ten Anis Peebles, defensive tackle from Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I can see him playing in spot duty.

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Speaker 1: To twelve they got Robert Longerbeam, the cornerback at a Rutgers.

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Speaker 1: I like him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for where they got him, I really liked it.

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Speaker 1: And then to forty three was a Garrett Dellinger, a

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Speaker 1: third guard that they took in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw a side note I told you on

681
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Speaker 3: my other podcast. We've been going division by division, and

682
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Speaker 3: when you really break down, we spend ten minutes on

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Speaker 3: an entire draft class. Bears whoever. Like we talked about

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Speaker 3: Tampa today, Tampa had six picks, only drafted three positions.

685
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Speaker 3: The drafted two d ns, two corners, two wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: A lot of teams doubled up with positions this year,

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Speaker 3: more than usual. I mean, Steelers did a de tackle,

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Speaker 3: but a lot of teams did. I mean we were

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Speaker 3: talking about Cincy before they took two linebackers, two guards.

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00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: Talk about Baltimore they took three guards. You know, I

691
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Speaker 3: mean like a lot of these teams really hit a

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Speaker 3: position hard. Yeah, right, more than most years.

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Speaker 1: I'd say he only lists those four teams on here. Okay,

694
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Speaker 1: And again I think if you factor in the acquisition

695
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Speaker 1: of DK, even if you don't factor in DK, metcap.

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Speaker 3: Right right, an early running back goes a long way

697
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Speaker 3: back to the gent conversation. I mean, you could say

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Speaker 3: the Browns, the Patriot. It's just because a running back

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Speaker 3: that's going to get a lot of snacks Broncos Broncos. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get back to the dynasty conversation. Maybe that should

701
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Speaker 3: carry a little more weight, Like a lot of these

702
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 3: receivers I don't think are instant impact guys.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all, you know, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Golden lead the Packers in receiving. Maybe I mean the

705
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Speaker 3: tech McMillan lead the Panthers in receiving.

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Speaker 1: Probably even a tight.

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Speaker 3: Ends, I mean, right right, I agree.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're not taking one of those top guys,

709
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, is jack Beck really going to make that big.

710
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: Of a He probably ends up with three hundred and

711
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Speaker 3: fifty yards this year. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not a bad pick necessarily, but it

713
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Speaker 1: doesn't make you immensely better.

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Speaker 3: Right right right. I'm trying to think who I would

715
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Speaker 3: take though. Speaking of Tampa, I mean, like they didn't

716
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Speaker 3: need a receiver, but that might help him win games.

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Speaker 1: The strength, the.

718
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: Strength and strength, I mean that three receiver set is

719
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 3: no fun to go against.

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Speaker 1: Look at you like Jackson Smith and Jigba for example,

721
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Speaker 1: two years go in Seattle rookie year, his rookie year

722
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: didn't do much. Yeah, now last year he was, Yeah,

723
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Speaker 1: he emerged enough, they.

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Speaker 3: Got older, he took over a year or two. Right,

725
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: that could be the Tampa situation.

726
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows, you know, but he didn't do anything.

727
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Speaker 1: His rookie year. No, should Tennessee be at the top

728
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Speaker 1: of the list. I mean, I think they helped themselves,

729
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: of course, I mean you first picked the draft, you

730
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Speaker 1: help himself. But they're gonna be I think they're gonna

731
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Speaker 1: be better.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I'll be shocked Jadan Daniels. Yeah right,

733
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Speaker 3: I mean I bet there's a lot of ups and

734
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Speaker 3: downs with them this year. Trying to think other teams

735
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Speaker 3: that would how about Atlanta. They gave up a ton, but.

736
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Speaker 1: They got to edge Ross. But if they got to

737
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Speaker 1: actually have a pass, right, if they can get fifteen

738
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: sacks between those two dudes. And I think they looked

739
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: at it like what the Rams did. We're just gonna

740
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Speaker 1: throw a bunch of a bunch of picks at this.

741
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Speaker 3: I'm tired of.

742
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Speaker 1: You're gonna get this right, I'm tired of Yeah.

743
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they trade up for him too, but they

744
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Speaker 3: added the notre Dame safety Watts. I mean, if you

745
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: put him next to Bay, okay, I bet he starts immediately.

746
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 3: They gave up a lot, but I think Atlanta got better.

747
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: I mean they probably would have made my list of

748
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 3: who improved the most for now. Yeah, Jacksonville added Hunter.

749
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's two positions of somewhat need or a

750
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: big need that you would think makes an instant impact.

751
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: But they didn't get a lot else. I'm trying to

752
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: think other teams that got. I mean, the Browns made

753
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: a ton of pigs. They're not the picks I would

754
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: have made. Have been really critical of them, but they're

755
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: a lot better at running back, a better at linebacker.

756
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: I guess, you know. I'm just trying to think.

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00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: Well, I mean if they had, if they had Corn Mora,

758
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be Yeah.

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00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: Is he injured?

760
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Speaker 1: Injured?

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, like.

762
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Speaker 1: They may he may not play it all this year.

763
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: I think that's why they made the second round pick. Yeah,

764
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: which is kind of desperate. But he's not a bad player.

765
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Speaker 1: He's different from.

766
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 3: K Yeah, a lot, a lot bigger. Maybe they'll compliment

767
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: each other. Well, someday, someday that'd be a tough list

768
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: to put together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be. Anyways, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt much like the Ryan Watts retirement

788
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Speaker 1: earlier this week, but from the Steelers, the six round

789
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: draft pick safety out of Texas because the injury he

790
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: suffered at the end of last season. At the ear

791
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Speaker 1: at the end last preseason, I should say Jordan Travis,

792
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Speaker 1: the quarterback the Jets draft drafted out of Florida State

793
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: last year. Now they knew going into it he had

794
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: suffered a knee injury right right rounds later than he

795
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: would Yeah, right round rounds. Yeah, yeah, he is retired

796
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: from football because of that. Injuries. Just can't get it.

797
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: I hate it. I mean, it's just the worst, without question,

798
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: it's the worst part of the game, you know. I mean,

799
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: and it's a violent sport and unfortunately, this happens a lot.

800
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: And I don't know much more to comment on it.

801
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that they took a flyer hoping.

802
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: He was one hundred and seventy first pick in the draft.

803
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: It was worth a shot because he was a really

804
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: good college football, good athlete, and I forget what kind

805
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: of injury he had.

806
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 3: Was a need.

807
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: It was a need, I.

808
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: Thought, so something that was worse than just joe average knee.

809
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: And fortunately, I mean, this happens less than it did

810
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: twenty years ago. And you know, medicines come a long way.

811
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: But man, I mean, imagine I would put myself in

812
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: their shoes, A big time quarterback at Florida State, that knows. Man,

813
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: I got injured at the wrong time. I would have

814
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: been a third round pick, a second round.

815
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Speaker 1: Pick, probably his second round pick. At worse, I.

816
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,479
Speaker 3: Would think, yeah, and then I guess spend this entire

817
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: year rehabbing like crazy, trying to fit in with teammates,

818
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: but not able to do anything on the field, sitting

819
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 3: in a quarterback meeting room with Aaron Rodgers, you know,

820
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 3: like wow, here I am, and then never get the opportunity.

821
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just it's just not going to pass. Yeah, people

822
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: might have well why does that kind of stuff happen? Now, Well,

823
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: they take physicals, you know, coming off of that stuff,

824
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: and the doctors say, yeah, that's not you shouldn't play again.

825
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 3: You shouldn't play anymore. Right, Yeah, you know there's head

826
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: injuries and neck injuries and stuff like that too that

827
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: are real scary, that could change your life. Again, I

828
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: don't have a lot to comment on it, so I

829
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: just feel so bad for the young men too. It happens, Yeah,

830
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: both those guys. You know, it's a as you just mentioned,

831
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Speaker 3: a violent game and that's why, you know, and they

832
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: can't retire off the money they've made. Yeah, and by

833
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Speaker 3: any stretch. I mean, I don't know what their degrees

834
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Speaker 3: are in or whatever, or they plan them getting into

835
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: coaching or but it's different when you know, eight year

836
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Speaker 3: veterans got millions in the bank and put good work

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Speaker 3: in and had a bad knee injury. You know, that's

838
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: part of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, I for like with Watts, he

840
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: was at the facility every day last year, like he

841
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: was there putting in the time and spending the time. Yeah,

842
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: you know, he thought he was going to come back

843
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: and play, and.

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Speaker 3: We at least saw him on the field. I assume

845
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Jets fans never saw Travis in training camp or anything.

846
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so unfortunate.

847
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: It is brutal.

848
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of brutal and unfortunate. The NFL, not that this

849
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: is the brutal and unfor what's a part of this,

850
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: But they have fined the Atlanta Falcons two hundred and

851
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. Yeah, and defensive coordinator Jeff Albert was

852
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: fined one hundred thousand dollars himself because of the prank

853
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: calls his son made to Shadoor Sanders during the draft.

854
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: So I think it's such a mean and terrible thing

855
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: to do. Again on such a big day, such a

856
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: big stage. These guys work so hard, and you pulled

857
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 3: the rug out from under him. Now I don't know

858
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 3: the details. I mean, did Ulbrick have a iPad laying around?

859
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: Apparently that's what happened. My son saw it and grabbed

860
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: the numbers.

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00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 3: And then they're you know, the numbers are protected. I

862
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: mean not everyone in public needs to know Shador or

863
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: cam Ward or anyone's personal phone numbers. Of course, this

864
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: kid's this kid, it's.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one, twenty one. He's not a He's not like

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00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: under Albrick's roof, a twelve year old. That's what as

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00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: I say, like point, is it not the coach's fault anymore?

868
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: And your thirty year old son that has two kids,

869
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: no has lives in a different house, should be the

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Speaker 1: one dealing with it. You know, it stole dad's iPad

871
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: because they can't they can't find the kid because right, right,

872
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: And is this a jailable offense? No, no, right, But

873
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: it's something that shouldn't happen, and it can't happen if

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00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: this doesn't serve as a I guess it's.

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00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: A good reminder warning, a.

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00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Good warning to like, hey guys, you can't just leave

877
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Speaker 1: stuff laying around. Yeah, yeah, even in your own house.

878
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: So all Brick got fine, not the team. The team

879
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: got fined two hundred and fifty grand, Okay, so he

880
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: got an extra hundred on top of that.

881
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: Which I don't know what all Brick makes. I mean

882
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 3: he's he's a defensive coordinator.

883
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinators. I mean, okay, but that does at least

884
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: one tenth of what he's making.

885
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: More it it's probably ten percent or so. It's a huge,

886
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: five significant. Fine, it doesn't phase the team. But I

887
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: think your point is right that the next kid that

888
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: picks up in daddy's iPad and thinks it's funny, probably

889
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: isn't so funny. Right, It's not.

890
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: It's not it's not funny. It's not. It's mean, right,

891
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's flat out mean, right, like especially, you know,

892
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: and there were other guys and wrong, he was just

893
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: fine for the Sanders call. There were other guys who

894
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: were called in this draft. Now, whether that was him

895
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: or whether that was his fret buddies, right right, right,

896
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: he gave the numbers to somebody called those people too.

897
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: It was there weren't multiple leaks. I wouldn't think it

898
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: was this.

899
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Speaker 3: It wasn't a bunch of fraternity dudes drinking beers doing

900
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: whatever on Thursday Friday night thinking it's hilarious.

901
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: Right, we already got one, right, I told him he

902
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: had been drafted.

903
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: So I wonder does this happen every year? I kind

904
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Speaker 3: of bet it does.

905
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: This is the first time it's been publicized.

906
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 3: Now it's the NFL's had enough of it, and we're

907
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 3: just gonna.

908
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: I bet it has happened before, but to this level.

909
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: That's pretty bad and door such a public The.

910
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Reason that they obviously, you know, the reason that they

911
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: smacked these guys so hard, is because I don't think

912
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: it has happened before. Okay, you know, I don't know. Well, Okay,

913
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: so Tyler just looked u up. Ulbrook's making one point

914
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: six million dollars.

915
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: He's a coordinator.

916
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: He's a coordinator.

917
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 3: Right. He was the interim head coach for the jet Yeah.

918
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Right, So he got he got hit with one sixteenth

919
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: of his salary for.

920
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: It's like one week of It's like Aaron Rodgers or

921
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger losing the week twelve paycheck.

922
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a significant amount of money.

923
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: No matter what, significant money, even if he's making five

924
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 3: million years a lot of money. Yeah, and I wouldn't

925
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: be real thrilled with sunny boy.

926
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. Thanksgiving? How's dinner going to go?

927
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: And the thing is this isn't wrecking mom's car. No, right,

928
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: I put a little dunt in the car.

929
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Speaker 3: Right, Like, Okay, we can handle that. Yeah, At what

930
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 3: point is son old enough that it's not my fault anymore?

931
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: His dad? You know what I mean?

932
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know twenty one.

933
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: I mean he's an adult, you're in that range, yeah, right, right, right,

934
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Speaker 3: I mean I don't know if he's out of the

935
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Speaker 3: house yet, if he's in college, which a lot of

936
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Speaker 3: twenty one year olds.

937
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. There's a lot of layers to it,

938
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: definitely and would not be real. I'll bet it's not real.

939
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: Things aren't real rosy right now at the Oldbrich because

940
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: this reflects badly on him. He was the guy who

941
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: was the interim head coach for the Jets last year.

942
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, he had a bright future, like if he

943
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: if he did well to say it has hurt his

944
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: career potentially. I mean, you take back the foot this way.

945
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: The next job he's hired at, whether it's another coordinator

946
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: job or whether it is this is going I'm thinking

947
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 1: Jeff Alberts, whose son did this and that was fine

948
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: by the league. That's going to be part of his design.

949
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: You know, his identifier.

950
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: It's not former linebacker that played at Hawaii that was

951
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: a good player. Now, yeah, great young.

952
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: Coach Obert who was fined one hundred thousand dollars by

953
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: the league.

954
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: First dumbass sun.

955
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's there. That's the identifier.

956
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: And I always like to bring it back to football

957
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: because that's something I know better about. Is Atlanta's acting

958
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: like they're on the hot seat. They're trading future picks,

959
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: you know, and it's all about the defense. We're drafting

960
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: two edge rushers, we're trading up for another safety. Defense

961
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: better get fixed. And now we just got us find

962
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty grand. Right, I had to write

963
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: that check.

964
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: And one more layer of we don't like the defense

965
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: around here. Arthur Blank's got a lot of money. But

966
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: still you right out to check for two hundred and

967
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: fifty grand. You're not happy about it because or nothing

968
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Speaker 1: got right getting anything out of it?

969
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: No, right, it wasn't like you cheated and you know,

970
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: violated something. Yeah, yeah, crazy story. Yeah, there's always something

971
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Speaker 3: weird around the draft.

972
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, hopefully nothing weird around the draft next year

973
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Speaker 1: because it's going to be here in Pittsburgh. They had

974
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Speaker 1: six hundred thousand people attend to draft in Green Bay. Now,

975
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Speaker 1: not all at one time, sure, two hundred basically two

976
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand people per day per day. Okay, the record

977
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Speaker 1: was seven to seventy five two years ago in Detroit. Wow,

978
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Speaker 1: I'll bet your Pittsburgh.

979
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Speaker 3: Top set that they do too.

980
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: It's just so easy to get it's it's easier to

981
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Speaker 1: get to. It's more centralized.

982
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember the one in Tennessee than Nashville one.

983
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: It was a massive, massive, and it was real.

984
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: Easy to get to and every street looked like it

985
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: was how many cities can you drive here from that

986
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: have NFL teams?

987
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 3: Right? All right?

988
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,959
Speaker 1: Let alone the entire East Coast that all the football fans,

989
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: regardless of who they're rooting for, can get here.

990
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean, as we saw in Hard Knocks too, the

991
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: division is closer than any other division. You know, they're

992
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: going to be a lot of Ravens and Browns and

993
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: Begels fans floating around.

994
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: It is going to be an event.

995
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: Buffalo Philly, right, all right, that's gonna be cool.

996
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But Matt, that's going to do it for our

997
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Speaker 1: show today, we want to thank everybody for listening and

998
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Speaker 1: also like to thank my partner, Matt Williamson CJ. Wolfley

999
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Speaker 1: over there on the Justin Miller Hotline getting a hold

1000
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Speaker 1: of the Dean of Doom, Lord of living in his fears,

1001
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Speaker 1: Bob Labriola. I want to thank Tyler Vittmeyer there. Not

1002
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Speaker 1: only did he went out and got some coffee. Matti

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Speaker 1: tasking today from Tyler Viittmeyer, but I'm Dale Lollie. We

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Speaker 1: want to thank you for listening to this edition of

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Speaker 1: the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.