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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Albert Breer's senior NFL reporter and lead content

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Speaker 1: strategist for the Monday Morning Quarterback, joining us on the program. Albert,

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Speaker 1: where you want to start, You want to, like, you

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Speaker 1: want a good theory on why the longer extra points

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Speaker 1: mess book kickers. Sure, So, Like what I've heard from

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Speaker 1: a few special teams coaches over the last few years

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Speaker 1: that I think is sort of interesting is that kickers

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Speaker 1: used to use the extra point to work out kinks.

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Speaker 1: So if they felt something was a little offer, they

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Speaker 1: thought this or that was wrong, the extra point gave

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Speaker 1: them an in game opportunity to sort of work on

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Speaker 1: something that wasn't that that was either wrong or didn't

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Speaker 1: feel quite right, you know, within their stroke. And so

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Speaker 1: you take that away from them, and now all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, it sort of messes with the whole equilibrium

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Speaker 1: of being a kicker, and they don't have an in

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Speaker 1: game opportunity to sort of work out things that they

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Speaker 1: did before. So I don't know, that's just one theory

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Speaker 1: out there that I thought was kind of interesting, and

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Speaker 1: that like, you know, kicking such a mental game, and

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Speaker 1: you know, they used to have. Each guy used to

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Speaker 1: have this outlet where he could kind of work on things,

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Speaker 1: and now that outlet's been taken away. I wish there

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Speaker 1: was a deep dive a study of kickers where you

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Speaker 1: just got into their heads of what they go through,

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Speaker 1: because they're really ostracized. You know, they're not really a

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Speaker 1: football player until they come into a game and they

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Speaker 1: can win or lose a game. And I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: Mason Crosby yesterday that you're missing these field goals. You

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Speaker 1: don't miss field goals then you got to go out

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Speaker 1: there and kick another field goal. Just the whole mind

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Speaker 1: game that is played that kickers, you know, play with themselves.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's something that is probably not

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Speaker 1: quantifiable in trying to understand what these guys go through

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Speaker 1: every day or every week. And I talked to him

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Speaker 1: after the game, which was it was interesting because I

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Speaker 1: asked him about this conversation he had with Matt Lafloor

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Speaker 1: and he had missed He hadn't just missed straight kicks, Dan,

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Speaker 1: He'd miss like kicks on three straight possessions, right, So

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Speaker 1: the Packers had three possessions in a row that ended

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Speaker 1: with miss field goals, and on top of that, the

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Speaker 1: other kicker had missed a couple, which I mean just

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Speaker 1: sort of I think would add to it, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that this is just really weird what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the stadium. And Floyd comes over to him and says, like,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? And he said, I got this.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't a short field goal either, I think

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Speaker 1: was what forty nine yards and so, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think like there's there's like this. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: almost like, I think the best way to the best

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Speaker 1: thing to compare it to is being a golfer, right,

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Speaker 1: like a golfer who can compartmentalize just kind of a

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Speaker 1: slump and you know, you you know, you have three

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Speaker 1: four bad holes in a row and somehow where the

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Speaker 1: rest of us would be out there and we'd be

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Speaker 1: all over the place on the fourth or fifth hole

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Speaker 1: in that strength. These the best kickers have have an

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Speaker 1: ability to compartmentalize struggles maybe the way that a good

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Speaker 1: golfer does. And it's I think the other thing that's

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Speaker 1: sort of interesting in comparing the two is just being

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Speaker 1: a little bit off can mean everything is wrong, you know,

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Speaker 1: And so I just think that the psychology of the

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Speaker 1: kickers really really interesting. And you think back to some

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Speaker 1: of the guys like Scott Norwood where one kick just

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Speaker 1: like sort of like who's a really good kicker just

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Speaker 1: basically ended his career. He never got it right after that.

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Speaker 1: And then you think about a guy who's you know,

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Speaker 1: a team where, you know, every loss could be one

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Speaker 1: more or one at every loss could be one fewer

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Speaker 1: game at Lambeau in January. The pressure of that and

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Speaker 1: everything else, being able to compartmentalize it, that's definitely a skill. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with the golfer, you got to play your missus h

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Speaker 1: you know, as they always talk about, a kicker doesn't

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Speaker 1: get that opportunity if you miss, and then you get it,

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Speaker 1: you know, another chance to go up and go, oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll be able to try that again. The worst loss

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Speaker 1: yesterday was turned in by the worst loss yesterday. You know,

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Speaker 1: that this is sort of reason for concern. Now they've

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Speaker 1: you know, they've they've lost three or five and some

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Speaker 1: of the pieces that they've brought in aren't coming together

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Speaker 1: the way that maybe they'd hope they'd had. They're older

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Speaker 1: wonder how it's going to come together. I wonder how

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Speaker 1: think anybody's paying attention to what the Chiefs did this

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Speaker 1: offseason new it might take a little while for all

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Speaker 1: of that to come together. But I you know, like

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Speaker 1: like I don't know what they expected that they would

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Speaker 1: and so, you know, I just think the process in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's taking a little bit longer. No, there's not

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Speaker 1: like a particularly like embarrassing loss. I thought the Raiders

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Speaker 1: losing to the Bears and they had a good September.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about Derek Carr MVP, and now you

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Speaker 1: lose to justin Fields and Home and let's not ignore

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Speaker 1: the elephant on the couch there either. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you know, John Gruden going through you know what

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Speaker 1: he's what he's what he's gone through the last three days,

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Speaker 1: and the fact that, like I think that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people across the league, not just people in the

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Speaker 1: Raiders building, and people across the league were paying attention,

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Speaker 1: like how's that team going to respond to him? Now?

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Speaker 1: You know, because I mean something like this happens, And

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Speaker 1: I think the honest question for everybody in that locker

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Speaker 1: room as well, if you put that in an email,

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Speaker 1: what else is he saying? And I'm not calling John

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Speaker 1: a liar, I don't know, you know whether or not

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Speaker 1: wasn't a racial comment and he didn't mean it that way.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, they're gonna be guys in that locker

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Speaker 1: I think it's like in the same way, I think

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Speaker 1: like we had to kind of watch not just like

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Speaker 1: the effort and how much fight there was, Like I

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Speaker 1: The Bears aren't a bad team, though. I think we've

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Speaker 1: But I do agree that, like I think coming off

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Speaker 1: of what the team was coming off of, with everything

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Speaker 1: that happen with Bruden on Friday and sort of the

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering the NFL is going to investigate, But

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Speaker 1: how far do you investigate? Because when you start to

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Speaker 1: look at email, there's probably a lot of things in

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Speaker 1: a lot of emails that if you start to go,

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Speaker 1: I mean, how deep do you go and what do

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Speaker 1: you want to find out? Because sometimes you may not

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Speaker 1: want to find out certain things here. And I wonder

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Speaker 1: if they suspend him if the Raiders suspend him, how

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Speaker 1: much you know, how heavy handed is the NFL here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't even know, like I don't know, um,

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Speaker 1: text messages like can you can you look up text

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Speaker 1: messages from ten years? Why don't they you do? Text messages?

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Speaker 1: They're they're available from what I'm told, But email that's

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Speaker 1: something different than And Bruce Allen, who's on the receiving

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Speaker 1: end of this. You know, he didn't push back on

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Speaker 1: you know, John, you shouldn't say that. Like it just

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Speaker 1: starts to expand a little bit. It's not just John

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Speaker 1: Gruden this well, and it's I mean, like and honestly,

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Speaker 1: like Dan, it goes back to everything that's happened the

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Speaker 1: with Kaepernick in twenty and sixteen, and then you know

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Speaker 1: the comments that Bob McNair made, um, And you know,

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Speaker 1: is he saying and setting why and setting Z? You know,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, I think you're onto it, like

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Speaker 1: where you say, how much do they really want to know?

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Speaker 1: Do they want to do. Are they wanting to dig

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Speaker 1: through John Gruden's text messages from two thousand and eleven

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Speaker 1: if they find something there, are they going through other interactions?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it could it can wind up being a

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Speaker 1: I think there were because and there's natural distrust between

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Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. Like, like, I think

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Speaker 1: wondered how much of this is just about the moment

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Speaker 1: the country's in, and how much of this is just

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Speaker 1: about you know, public relations and making sure that that's

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Speaker 1: they're not creating, you know, they're not creating a problem

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Speaker 1: the future. And I think some of those people are

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Speaker 1: definitely looking and saying, all right, like, let's see what

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Speaker 1: they do with a prominent coach, and are they willing

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Speaker 1: to come down on a prominent coach in a situation

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Speaker 1: like this? If this was the NBA, what do you

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Speaker 1: think happens if something was unearthed by an owner about

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Speaker 1: an owner? Okay, without having covered it, my guests would

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Speaker 1: be that there will be My guests would be that

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Speaker 1: there would be prominent players, like the most prominent players

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Speaker 1: social media. That'd be my guess, right, Like, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know you you've been around that stuff probably more

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Speaker 1: my guess is you probably have guys like Lebron, James

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Speaker 1: and Kevin like openly openly commenting on it, right, And like,

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Speaker 1: once that happens, now we're talking about something else, because

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Speaker 1: now it's you know, now it's it's sort of pitting

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Speaker 1: players against the league, and the players have put the

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Speaker 1: had players coming out and saying something and turning it

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Speaker 1: talking about something else. That's like how you know that,

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Speaker 1: That's how it happened. When that's how the Houston thing became,

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Speaker 1: what it became with Bob McNair, you know, is that

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Speaker 1: football coach and LSU need something spectacular and they do

429
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Speaker 1: not have that right now. Are you all in on

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten? I'm starting to watch a lot more

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Speaker 1: Big Ten Network. It took me a long time to

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Speaker 1: find it, Dan, but the Big Ten is the story

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Speaker 1: of college football. I'm sure I'll get a pink slip

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Speaker 1: today from the SEC Network. For saying that, but hey,

435
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're not paying attention right now. And yeah,

436
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: there are so many great stories, and I think the

437
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Speaker 1: story that we buried five weeks ago may come back

438
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Speaker 1: and be the Big ten champion, and that's Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: They are looking alive again, and I think the schedule

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Speaker 1: suits them quite nicely. Are you all in on Michigan?

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Speaker 1: You're good, buddy, Jim Harball. I don't know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, if I'm just thinking, Dan, I need

443
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Speaker 1: some help here because you've you've had it out NBA

444
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: trophies and NFL trophies and I've never really had to

445
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Speaker 1: deal with stuff like that. But if somehow Jim Harball

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Speaker 1: wins the national Championship, I'm looking for a country to

447
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Speaker 1: evacuate too. I just don't think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: safe for the two of us to live in the

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Speaker 1: Great United States of America. If you ran USC's football

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Speaker 1: program or USC athletics, what would you do as your

451
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Speaker 1: head coach? I would hire James Franklin. I think he

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Speaker 1: checks a lot of boxes in the sense that he's

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Speaker 1: a very good CEO, which means he'll bring in a

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Speaker 1: top flight staff and from there I think this program

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Speaker 1: needs to run be run like a like a big

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Speaker 1: time operation, and it hasn't been. And I think some

457
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Speaker 1: of the problems they've had in apt athletic directors out

458
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Speaker 1: there in the past, they don't anymore. They hired Mike

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Speaker 1: Bones from Cincinnati and and and in La Dan. You

460
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Speaker 1: have to be able to schmooz. And James Franklin is

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Speaker 1: very smooth, and I expect that program to come back big,

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Speaker 1: and I think he would be the best choice. Every

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Speaker 1: time I bring this up because I had a source

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Speaker 1: who told me that whatever whenever they fired Clay Hey,

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Speaker 1: James Franklin stops on their listen. And then the people

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Speaker 1: at Penn State are mad at me because I bring

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Speaker 1: up James Franklin. I'm thinking taking us a compliment, like

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Speaker 1: your coach will be in demand. He's either going to

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Speaker 1: get a new contract at Penn State or he'll get

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Speaker 1: a contract at USC. I don't believe college football fans

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Speaker 1: get mad at commentators for speaking the truth. That is

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Speaker 1: that that's a new one. Yeah. Yes, if I'm over.

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Speaker 1: If I'm over at Penn State right now, i'd be

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Speaker 1: I'd I'd be searching the yellow Pages for a new

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Speaker 1: coach because I think Franklin is leaving. Paul. Always great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thank you, buddy, Dan, it was

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Speaker 1: I wanted to play this from urban Meyer's press conference

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Speaker 1: yesterday because the Jags had a fourth and one, and

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Speaker 1: I guess most people thought it was going to be

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Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak with Trevor Lawrence. But here's urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: talking about his quarterback, the quarterback sneak. He's not quite

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Speaker 1: comfortable with that yet. We've been practicing that. I know

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Speaker 1: that might sound silly, but when you've never done it,

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Speaker 1: it's something that we need to continue to make that

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Speaker 1: so you can make that call in that critical situation.

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Speaker 1: All right, And as you might guess, this is in college,

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Speaker 1: this is the pros where we get to hear from

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Speaker 1: the players themselves, and Trevor Lawrence was asked about that. Trevor,

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Speaker 1: going back to that goal line play, coach just said

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Speaker 1: that you guys are still working on quarterback sneaks. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel comfortable being under center in that situation for

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Speaker 1: a quarterback sneak or is that something you guys are

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Speaker 1: still working on. No, I feel comfortable. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: I haven't really ran it before and in a game,

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Speaker 1: but now I feel comfortable with something we've worked so

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Speaker 1: we all can get better. But QB sneak is always

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Speaker 1: something that we can get to and I feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: with springing Carson Palmer, help me understand this. Most of

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Speaker 1: these guys get in a spread offense when they're in

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Speaker 1: junior high, high school, college, and not normally under center.

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Speaker 1: How big a deal is this that a quarterback they're

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Speaker 1: not comfortable running a quarterback sneak Well. I just think

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Speaker 1: all of this is getting misconstrued a bit. Dan, have

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Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie Heat? The al Pacino movie,

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Speaker 1: but Heat. I think I think Urban's got the heat

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Speaker 1: on him right now, and everything he says is going

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Speaker 1: to be calculated and maybe misconstrued a bit. I just

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Speaker 1: think his point was, look, we haven't we haven't run

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Speaker 1: it in the game yet. I didn't. I wasn't comfortable

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Speaker 1: with the call on fourth and one. I'd be more

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Speaker 1: comfortable if we'd run it a couple of times. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think in any way he was saying Trevor,

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Speaker 1: Trevor is not tough enough. He's scared of running it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was his point, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's what Trevor was saying is, look, you know I'm

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Speaker 1: ready for it. We haven't practiced it, and I haven't

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Speaker 1: run it in the game a bunch, But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, Urban's got the heat on him,

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Speaker 1: and everything he says right now is going to be,

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Speaker 1: you know, overthought and talked about by everybody. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's anything really to this. I understand it. But

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Speaker 1: here's Tom Brady who's still running a quarterback sneak at

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Speaker 1: age forty four. Why can't I have a six six

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Speaker 1: twenty three year old run a quarterback sneak? Like? Is

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Speaker 1: it just getting under center? Like? Why haven't they practiced

544
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Speaker 1: this though? That's what that quarterback sneak is really important

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Speaker 1: to a lot of quarterbacks. Unfortunately, you can't practice it,

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Speaker 1: just like you can't practice with a quarterback being live

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Speaker 1: in the pocket with the starting defense breathing down his neck,

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Speaker 1: lightening them up. In practice. You're just not going to

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Speaker 1: expose your quarterback to injury practicing a quarterback sneak in

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Speaker 1: the game. At the end of the day, they need

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Speaker 1: to be in the first quarter on third and a

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Speaker 1: half a yard or third and one and run it

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Speaker 1: a couple of times to where they're able and comfortable

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Speaker 1: enough running it on fourth and one with the game

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Speaker 1: on the line. But you cannot practice it you just

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Speaker 1: I don't. I've never practiced it in my career. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen it practiced in my career. It's just something

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Speaker 1: you got a call in a game, and that's your practice.

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Speaker 1: What is it like though, when you go and I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to envision this, when Brady goes to the

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Speaker 1: line and we know he's going to get the ball

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Speaker 1: on the quarterback sneak. But as far as tapping, you

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Speaker 1: know your center's rear end on the right or left

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Speaker 1: if you're going to go, or how that works with

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Speaker 1: the unspoken communication. Yeah, as you come up to line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, you're looking for a double team, meaning your

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Speaker 1: center and guard on one defensive football player. So wherever

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Speaker 1: that nose guard is, the guy that's closest the defender

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Speaker 1: closest to the center lines up, if he's on the

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Speaker 1: left shoulder or the right shoulder, you just tap him

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Speaker 1: on the butt and let that guard on that side

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Speaker 1: also know that, Hey, I want you too to double

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Speaker 1: team that guy, and I'm going to just ride the way.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on the top of your back and

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Speaker 1: push and we're actually going to triple team that individual player.

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Speaker 1: So it's like I said, it's just something that they

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Speaker 1: actually need to practice it in a game, and that's

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Speaker 1: the only opportunity they're going to have to practice it.

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Speaker 1: I was just surprised that Urban didn't shake it off

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00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: better on him, I know, but Belichick would have, you know,

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Speaker 1: diffused that he would have pushed that to the side

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Speaker 1: and moved on because you know, in college you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: get to talk to the quarterback. In the pros, Trevor

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00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: probably didn't know what Urban said. He's coming in next

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Speaker 1: and of course they're going to ask him about that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just felt like he was a

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Speaker 1: rookie mistake for the head coach. That's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Urban's got the heat on him. Everything he

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Speaker 1: says is going to be analyzed and over scrutinized. And

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have He hasn't built up the equity the

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Speaker 1: Belichick has. He doesn't. He hasn't earned the right to

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Speaker 1: just kind of rush off a simple question by somebody

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Speaker 1: and move on to the next one. He's got the

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Speaker 1: heat on him. Every question is going to be over analyzed.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, that was a rookie mistake the way

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Speaker 1: he handled that all in on the Chargers. I'm all

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Speaker 1: in on the Chargers because they can rush the passer

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Speaker 1: and they got one of the best young qbs in

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Speaker 1: the league. I mean that that combination big, physical, hard

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Speaker 1: to cover receivers Keenan Allen is still one of the

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Speaker 1: best kept secrets in the league. I still don't understand

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Speaker 1: why he doesn't quite get the love that some of

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Speaker 1: these other guys do in the league. He's been doing

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Speaker 1: it for a long time at a very high level.

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Speaker 1: But they can rush the past passer with Boza, and

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Speaker 1: they they can throw the ball on anybody. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, everybody knows that he's a star. He's a

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Speaker 1: star in the making. So I'm all in on the

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: Chargers absolutely. Okay, but what do you see with Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Because Jimmy Johnson on Fox's pregame show said he would

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Speaker 1: take Justin Herbert over Patrick Mahomes. That may be a stretch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Herbert hasn't done it as many times

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Speaker 1: as Patrick has. But I'm not saying that I don't

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Speaker 1: know that Justin Herbert has the ability to win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl or the talent to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We're about to find out this season. But man, the

617
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: ball comes out of his hands so effortlessly. There's so

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: much zip and acceleration on the football coming off to

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Speaker 1: his fingertips, and he can take off and run. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you saw him, You saw him use his legs. He

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Speaker 1: is a complete threat, run it, throw it. He's smart.

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Speaker 1: He's actually does a really really good job for a

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Speaker 1: young quarterback too. He does not panic. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of times where he held on the ball for a

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00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: little bit too late, and then you see that quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's young that tries to throw it away at the

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Speaker 1: end and a guy tips it and it becomes a

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00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: pick or it becomes a fumble. He's really really calm

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Speaker 1: in bad situations and knows when to just eat it

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Speaker 1: and live for another play and take the sack and

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Speaker 1: move on to second and sixteen. So I just really

632
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: like the temperament that he's playing with right now. What

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: would concern you about the Chiefs Just defense. I mean,

634
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: they're obviously built with speed on the back end. If

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00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: you look at the back end of that defense, there's

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Speaker 1: not a defender over two hundred and ten pounds. They're

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00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: built to stop the past. You know, you get in

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00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: situations against them late in the season, especially, and with

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00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: the weather last night, the wind, the rain. You've got

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Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball, you know, forcefully

641
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: down people's throats, and that's the one thing that Kansas

642
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: City can't really stop right now. You can attack them

643
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: in the run game. They are built to the past

644
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: because they're really building around Patrick obviously, and you know,

645
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: they want to be in a situation where they're up

646
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: twenty eight seventeen or thirty five twenty one, where they

647
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: they forced the opposing offense into a throwing game. But

648
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: last night you saw them get exposed. I mean, they

649
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: hung thirty eight points on them last night. And Patrick

650
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: isn't going to be able to keep up with every

651
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: single opposing offense every week. There's going to be games

652
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm in saying all that, I don't

653
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: think that. I'm not saying that the Chiefs aren't going

654
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: to make a run at it. I think they're going

655
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: to be deep, you know, deep in the playoffs at

656
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: the end of this season. But that's definitely a concern

657
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: as the amount of points that have been hung on

658
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: them earlier this year. I've had this philosophy with the Chiefs.

659
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: But tell me how. And maybe it's it sounds simplistic

660
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: and it's not. But I would have my defense my

661
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: back's played deep like I would never let Tyreek Hill

662
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: beat me. I want everything in front of me. You

663
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: want to get ten yard ers, fifteen yarders, fine, we're

664
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: going to take advantage of your defense when you're on

665
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: the feet. They like to strike quick, and I want

666
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: to know if they have the patience to be able

667
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: to do something like that, and that is no home runs.

668
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: You want to hit doubles, hit doubles and make them

669
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: value every possession they have that they have to score

670
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: because your defense isn't that good? Is that too simplistic

671
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: going against the Chiefs? Well, I think the issue with

672
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: playing them like that is Travis Kelsey. If Travis Kelsey's

673
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: injured and he isn't available to work the underneath routes around,

674
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, between the hashes ten yards or shallower. You know,

675
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: you can sit back and play them, but but Travis

676
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: is going to eat you alive if you're just going

677
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: to sit back and try to stop the deep ball.

678
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: The big issue is Travis, and then the X factor

679
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: outside of all that is Andy Reid He's always going

680
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: to have something really with a motion, with a shift,

681
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: some sort of quick screen. He's always going to do

682
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: something to keep you on your toes as a defensive coordinator.

683
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: So the combination of Travis Kelsey working the underneath coverage

684
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, and then you got

685
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: you got big Red calling plays from the sideline. I

686
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: just don't think you can sit back and make them

687
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: be patient because they can still get you with Kelsey.

688
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: What do you think of Treyvon Diggs for Defensive Player

689
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: of the Year. If the season stopped right now, there's

690
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: not a doubt about it, he'd win it. I mean,

691
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: he just continuously finds ways to get to the ball.

692
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: And the other thing about him is a lot there's

693
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of dbs that you see and watch that

694
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: they're going to drop a handful of picks. You know.

695
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: They they may end up going to the Pro Bowl

696
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: with seven, eight, nine picks, but they could have had

697
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: thirteen if they would have caught them all. That's the

698
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: thing about Trayvon. The ball didn't hit the ground. If

699
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: he's got an opportunity to catch it, he makes the play,

700
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: He completes the interception. He is like a receiver out

701
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: there at defensive back. But did you how often would

702
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: you avoid a defensive back in your career. It depends

703
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: on who it was. I mean, if it was somebody, yeah,

704
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: Revas could shut down half the field and he was

705
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of similar to Treylon. When the ball was in

706
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: the air, Revis was going to catch it. There was

707
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: very few balls that just bounced off of his fingertips.

708
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: He had receiver light hands. But if you got a

709
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Rebus or I played a bunch against Troy, Paulamalo, and

710
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Ed Reid, and if it was Troy, we ran the

711
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: ball away from him. If he rotated down to the

712
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: left side of the field, we ran the ball the

713
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: right vice versa. If it was Ed and Ed was

714
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: double teaming a player or taken away half of the field,

715
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: I would just work the other side of the field.

716
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: So Trayvon's that type of player. I mean, if Trayvon's

717
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: lined up on your number one, regardless of who it is,

718
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: you should be thinking of working the other side of

719
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: the field, no doubt. Dak Prescott talked about he had

720
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: to move past this game. He got injured, you know,

721
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: with his ankle. But and Drew Brees talked about this too,

722
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: that you can't help but think about that injury. How

723
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: often would you how long did it take you to

724
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: move past when you got hurt against the Steelers. You know,

725
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: it just takes getting past that next game because unfortunately

726
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: for Dak, and you heard him say it after the game,

727
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: he said, I'm just glad this game is over with.

728
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm just glad I can get past it. And that's

729
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: not a mental hurdle for him that he can't get over.

730
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: It's just he's been asked about it week after week

731
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: after week, and his teammates have been asked about it

732
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: week after week. So it's just something that you when

733
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: it's constantly being asked of you, You may not be

734
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: necessarily have a hurdle in your mind that you can't

735
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: get past it, But when somebody's constantly reminding you the

736
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: New York Giants last year, you're playing the New York

737
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Giants in three weeks and two weeks and one week,

738
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it just naturally comes up in your head. So, you know,

739
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: I think da can put this behind him. They're sitting

740
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: at a believe four and one right now, one of

741
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league. He's proven that he

742
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: can take a hit, he can take off and run,

743
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: he can step into throws. He's gotten that injury behind him,

744
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: and I just expect him to continue to flourish as

745
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: the season progresses. What's your philosophy on quarterbacks trying to

746
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: make tackles on the interceptions, Given what happened to Baker Mayfield,

747
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: You gotta try, There's no doubt about it. I mean,

748
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: when you make a mistake and you put the ball

749
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: in the wrong place or you didn't throw it on

750
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: time and everybody else did their job correctly, there's an

751
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: awful feeling as a quarterback when you throw that thing

752
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: and it's starting to head in a different direction. And

753
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: then you got your defense on the sideline that maybe

754
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: is playing a great game, and they don't want that

755
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: stat going on their side of the stat line because

756
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: those interceptions that end up being touchdowns, those end up

757
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: counting his points against your defense. So every quarterback knows that.

758
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: Every quarterback thinks about that. You don't have to make

759
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: the tackle. You just got to make sure he doesn't

760
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: get in the end zone. But you have to give effort.

761
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: You have to try, or else you're gonna hear it

762
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: from every teammate yeah, but you know when I see

763
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: Tom Brady go in a fetal position when he's going

764
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: to be sacked, or Peyton Manning kind of tries a

765
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: little bit, but he doesn't want to touch that person

766
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: who just picked him off. Like, those are guys that

767
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: survived twenty years. You know, these guys who want to

768
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: make the like Baker Mayfield, you know you want to

769
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: stick some buddy now he's gotten, you know, a damage shoulder. Yeah,

770
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's not Peyton Manning, and Baker Mayfield is not

771
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Those guys have earned the right to make

772
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: sure they stay healthy. I think Baker's three, four or

773
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: five years and a number of statistics away from being

774
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: able to be able to take kind of a haul

775
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: pass I'm having to make a tackle. How many tackles

776
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: do you think he made your career? I had a

777
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: couple good ones I missed. I've certainly missed more than

778
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: I made. But I had a big chip on my shoulder.

779
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: If I threw a pick and it was going the

780
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: opposite direction, I wasn't worried about injury. I was worried

781
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: about my teammates and letting them down. So I was

782
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: given everything I had. I was a terrible tackler. And

783
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: now that I'm coaching football, and I actually coach a

784
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: lot of the defensive stuff. So I'm trying to talk

785
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: about tackling and technique in form and I can talk

786
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: a good game, but as far as actually being able

787
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: to execute it fundamentally and technically, I can't tack Paulie.

788
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: How many tackles did Carson having NFL crew? Oh, I'll

789
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: get the good stuff. First two touchdown passes though, Okay,

790
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot of touchdown Okay, I got one tackle,

791
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: see as a rookie. Oh it came as a rookie. Yeah, yeah,

792
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: I know. Better prove yourself once, right? Do you put?

793
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: You think you put the fear you know of just

794
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: that defense? Thinking if I pick him off, and last

795
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: thing I want is Carson Palmer to hit me. I

796
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I threw a pick in Pittsburgh to Troy

797
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: paulamalo my I think it was early on in my

798
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: career and he was my old roommate from college, and

799
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't know where he came from. I thought I

800
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: had a nice, easy completion, and all of a sudden,

801
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 1: I see this giant Paul go up in one hand

802
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: this catch, and I kind of I got knocked down.

803
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: I turned around and I was standing on my own

804
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: goal line, and by the time I looked up, Troy

805
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: was coming at me full speed, and all I could

806
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: do was duck my head and put my arms up

807
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: and he ran me over. He put his he put

808
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: Actually I still have a pain in my shoulder. He

809
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: put his helmet right in my ac joint on my

810
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: shoulder and ran me over for a pick six. And

811
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: I think that was the one tackle. Oh wait, you

812
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: get credit for that. I got him on the ground

813
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: in the end zone in the end he went to

814
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: the ground. Does he say anything to you after a

815
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: play like that. No, Troy never says anything to anybody.

816
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: So if it was anybody else there would probably be

817
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: talking trash, but Troy never. I never heard Troy talk

818
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: any trash in the field. There's any football player that

819
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: ever had the right to talk trash, it was probably Troy.

820
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: And you hear that voice. And if I say that,

821
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: like Mike Tyson, where you go, that's the baddest man

822
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: on the planet, or that's a Hall of Fame defensive

823
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: like I would never think Troy Palomalo was one of those,

824
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm all over the field like a yoga instructor. Troy.

825
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: Troy is like my sen say or something. Yeah, just

826
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: a sweetheart off the field. But once guy's like him

827
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: or Mike Tyson getting the ring, they become pit bulls

828
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: and you got to watch out. But you know, you

829
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: get these guys, you can't be both right, Like, you

830
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: can't be crazy off the field and on the field,

831
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: can't you. Yeah, I believe you can. I've played with

832
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: a number of those. Oh you did, Yeah, you got

833
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: any names? Uh Ocho was crazy off the field, Like

834
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: how crazy on the field? How crazy was Chad Johnson

835
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: off the field? I mean, it depends on your definition

836
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: of crazy. But I remember when Twitter first came out

837
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: Chad and nobody really knew what Twitter was, but Chad

838
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: was definitely on it. And Chad would go to the

839
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: local mall in Cincinnati and send out a tweet saying, Hey,

840
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm standing outside of Dick's Sporting Goods, and sure enough,

841
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: four hundred people show up and want to hang out,

842
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 1: and then he'd take them all in and buy everybody

843
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: a pair of shoes or you know, do something. I

844
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: guess that's not crazy, that's that's awesome. But he was

845
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: just as crazy on the field as he was off.

846
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: I mean, just as far as doing something you wouldn't expect.

847
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to try to declete Ray Lewis

848
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: on the field, but he tried. Heinz Ward said that

849
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: the Steelers were afraid of James Harrison. I believe it.

850
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: I believe it. Actually, I remember playing again in a

851
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: game against James Harrison and somebody got in a little

852
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: bit of an altercation kind of after a play. Somebody

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Speaker 1: was there was a little bit of a scruffle, and

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget the Shay Townsend came in. He was

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. He came in out of the secondary,

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Speaker 1: and the Shay was giving the Bengals, our team a

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Speaker 1: friendly warning like you do not want any of that

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Speaker 1: back up right now. And it was out of like

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Speaker 1: fear that one of us was going to get broken

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Speaker 1: or snapping, and chances are be you no doubt I was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was in James crossairs all the times. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you again. Thanks as always, and

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Speaker 1: we look forward to next tweek. Thank you.