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Speaker 1: season two, episode fifteen, Unopened Letter to the World Now.
Speaker 1: The original air date for this was February twenty two,
Speaker 1: two thousand five, and our synopsis it's the students of
Speaker 1: tree Hill High make a time capsule to that they
Speaker 1: expect to be open in fifty years. That's a long
Speaker 1: time from now. So Anna struggles with what to reveal
Speaker 1: about herself. Nathan continues down his downward spiral, and Peyton
Speaker 1: and Jake, who is there anything else to say but
Speaker 1: that go on their first date. Um, I'm blushing just
Speaker 1: thinking about it. And Brooke really starts to think about
Speaker 1: what she can do as president. I want to start
Speaker 1: this by saying I felt the Haley void, like we
Speaker 1: knew they were going to be episodes that Haley was
Speaker 1: not in enjoy It really bothered me a couple episodes
Speaker 1: ago when you said you felt like they were testing
Speaker 1: the waters to see if the show could float without you,
Speaker 1: And to me, the answer is a firm no, Like
Speaker 1: I really missed the energy that you bring, and it's
Speaker 1: it balances our dynamic in a way that I think
Speaker 1: is really important. Um, I missed you this episode. Thanks.
Speaker 1: I missed Haley in this episode two being able to
Speaker 1: be more objective now and sitting back and watching saw,
Speaker 1: I miss that. There's a there's a grounded nous, There's
Speaker 1: a grounded thread that she even in her ah, even
Speaker 1: in her confusion about where she is, who she wants
Speaker 1: to be, that what choices she wants to make, there's
Speaker 1: still just something grounded about her that I think helps
Speaker 1: with the tone of everything in the show. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Mr too, it feels weird everybody talking about her and
Speaker 1: she's not there to defend herself a check. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know what I will say works, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the void we're feeling is the chasm that actually gives
Speaker 1: way for Nathan and Lucas to both be such a mess.
Speaker 1: You know, like like these boys are drowning without you,
Speaker 1: the romantic interest and the best friend. And so I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like it. And I guess that's
Speaker 1: why the guy in charge aside. I guess that's why
Speaker 1: they were doing it. It like actually works. They're like,
Speaker 1: what happens if she leaves? And it's like all everything
Speaker 1: falls apart. It's really sad. I cried twice watching this up. Guys.
Speaker 1: There were no secrets left in this episode. It all
Speaker 1: came spilling out everywhere, big mess, a big beautiful And
Speaker 1: this was one of those episodes where they really tapped
Speaker 1: into what I think our show did at its strongest,
Speaker 1: which is when when they writing of all the vignettes
Speaker 1: tied together and you get this book end of Whitey
Speaker 1: watching his younger self. Fun fact that was Barry Corbyn's
Speaker 1: son with you know, a buzz cut playing young Whitey
Speaker 1: and and we all cried at the end when Whitey.
Speaker 1: But you see all these little moments like you know,
Speaker 1: you call Peyton, calls Jacob Fox, and then you cut
Speaker 1: to Karen and she says to Andy, he won't out
Speaker 1: fox me. And then Brooke and Lucas and Felix are
Speaker 1: talking about surprises, and then it cuts to Erica Marsh
Speaker 1: saying surprise and like all these little things they did
Speaker 1: such a good job kind of giving you these slices
Speaker 1: of life of everyone, and in watching it, you know
Speaker 1: the way the fans do. I'm like, look at all
Speaker 1: these people doing dumb ship with Haley around. Yeah mother
Speaker 1: from a side from Payton and Jake, that is you, guys,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. I can't even that's seen in
Speaker 1: the hallway by the lockers. You smell insanely good today.
Speaker 1: My god, I was losing my mind Hillary discovering her
Speaker 1: face and you, by the way, trying to be cool
Speaker 1: and being like that's presumptuous. Guys. There was Zoro acting
Speaker 1: happy honestly and like we were such good friends. He
Speaker 1: friends owned me so hard, and so I would have
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, cool, No, I'm definitely not looking
Speaker 1: forward to these scenes where we have to kiss you.
Speaker 1: Gross you're my friend, um. But everyone, including Greenberg knew
Speaker 1: that I thought he was the fucking cats put champ Hillary.
Speaker 1: I did, but even I had a boyfriend at the time,
Speaker 1: and Greenberg would like fly into Wilmington's and like be like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I like stash my guitar at your house, and
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, sure, whatever you want, dude, Like
Speaker 1: my house is your house. Cool. My boyfriend would go
Speaker 1: from work, I'd be like, who is this get he's
Speaker 1: not hanging out here? Um is that guy that all
Speaker 1: the girls wanted and all the boys wanted to be
Speaker 1: because he's just effortlessly cool. He's so naturally masculine in
Speaker 1: that kind of like in that way that just makes
Speaker 1: you sweel, like the romance novel way that makes you swoon,
Speaker 1: the lean in and knowing how to say but it's
Speaker 1: not fake. That's the thing. We've seen it so many times,
Speaker 1: especially on c W shows, where guys show up and
Speaker 1: they do the thing that's supposed to be sexy they
Speaker 1: do they do the lean and the eyebrow goes up
Speaker 1: and they lean in the door frame and they're just
Speaker 1: like they look constipated because it's so forced. It is
Speaker 1: so natural from him, from from b G man. It
Speaker 1: just comes right from his gut. It's so good and
Speaker 1: it's not there's no push behind it. He's not trying
Speaker 1: to prove it, and like, isn't that swagger when somebody
Speaker 1: just is and it's low key and and he's a
Speaker 1: little quieter than everybody else, and it makes you want
Speaker 1: to lean in and listen. Last, is that what's happening? No, listen.
Speaker 1: He bashed at himself, and that's what's so great is
Speaker 1: that when he's like, hey man, I'm a single dad,
Speaker 1: I'm a high school dropout, I'm getting ready to go
Speaker 1: on my first day since my daughter was born. I'm
Speaker 1: a catch right. Yeah, you know that's how he is
Speaker 1: in real life too, Like he is able to laugh
Speaker 1: at himself in a way that disarms other people, and
Speaker 1: specifically for Peyton, who does have so many trust issues,
Speaker 1: who has so many walls up, what he is able
Speaker 1: to provide is like a really safe gentle I mean,
Speaker 1: in the bedroom, Jake finds condoms and it leads them
Speaker 1: not to having sex, but to having this really vulnerable conversation.
Speaker 1: And you admit it in the sweetest way that you
Speaker 1: know you're nervous, and he's just like, let's take it slow. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you said it. I literally I wrote it down
Speaker 1: in my notes. You said, name a more perfectly scripted
Speaker 1: boy character. Enjoy and I both went, can't honestly like
Speaker 1: the Boys on Creek, The Boys and Girls you know,
Speaker 1: on like any of the other shows. I'm sorry Jake
Speaker 1: Jagelski gets the trophy. He's kind of cool. Yeah, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you told him he got cool points for that, and
Speaker 1: he is. You know, we obviously love Jake Jakalski very much,
Speaker 1: and it's a lot easier to come in and play
Speaker 1: an of a really great character than it is to like,
Speaker 1: I have to do it every single episode for ten years.
Speaker 1: You know, the other boys really got put through the
Speaker 1: ringer because it's like, how do we constantly find interesting
Speaker 1: things for them to do? And so because Jake was
Speaker 1: limited to you know, what is it three seasons, you know,
Speaker 1: his stuff is really quality, it's really controlled, and his
Speaker 1: narrative is strong, and he never has to do any
Speaker 1: like weird b storylines that did never have to eat
Speaker 1: a heart. Yeah, it's like he doesn't have to do
Speaker 1: any dumb so he can just stay true to who
Speaker 1: he is without having to be like, what are we
Speaker 1: going to do this week with Jake jael Ski. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think that conversation in the bedroom was important
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that a lot of the concerns we
Speaker 1: were voicing about teenage sexuality were heard and that this
Speaker 1: is an example of that where it's like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: the girls will commit more to their storylines if, like,
Speaker 1: we try to portray an accurate version of what teenage
Speaker 1: sexuality is, and so you can have lost your virginity
Speaker 1: in high school and still not be like a sex machine.
Speaker 1: You know. The idea that Peyton is is specific in her. Look,
Speaker 1: I did this, That doesn't mean I'm going to do
Speaker 1: it every time. Yeah. I love that. I love setting
Speaker 1: that example. Yeah, And I think that's a really important
Speaker 1: thing for us to look at because you know, um,
Speaker 1: we we listen to you guys, and we read all
Speaker 1: your questions and we read all your feedback, and um,
Speaker 1: somebody said something that got us all talking offline about how,
Speaker 1: you know, some of the ways we've talked about our
Speaker 1: character's experiences made somebody think like, well, am I supposed
Speaker 1: to be ashamed that I had sex in high school?
Speaker 1: This was a good I'm a listener, and you were like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, No, that's not the point. The point
Speaker 1: when we talk about this stuff is that we, as
Speaker 1: young women, we're being put in sexual situations. We didn't
Speaker 1: agree to buy a bunch of men old enough to
Speaker 1: be our dads and it felt very upsetting, and it
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of that um, a lot of
Speaker 1: that stuff, especially for Brooke Davis certainly at moments for
Speaker 1: Peyton felt like grown male fantasy of teenage girls and
Speaker 1: it was hard for us. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: we find like the Haley and Nathan becoming an intimate
Speaker 1: sexual couple to be beautiful and it's and it's exactly
Speaker 1: why I'm so glad that you said what you just said, Hilary,
Speaker 1: because it's like, look, you do what you want to do,
Speaker 1: but don't let anyone in the world say that because
Speaker 1: you're not ready, something's wrong with you, or because you
Speaker 1: have you're just supposed to be ready for it all
Speaker 1: the time. Like that's not how people are. And it's
Speaker 1: it's so nice, I think for us to be getting
Speaker 1: to a point where these characters are becoming more real
Speaker 1: women with real complex experiences rather than like, you know,
Speaker 1: tiger beat poster girls in cheerleading uniforms that like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like gross. And so suddenly I feel like I'm actually
Speaker 1: watching teenagers again and it's it's so sweet, and all
Speaker 1: of guys think that all started to happen. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know we were sort of putting up fights and
Speaker 1: having conversations. It wasn't always a fight. Sometimes it was
Speaker 1: a conversation. Um, there were maybe more women in the
Speaker 1: writer's room. I'm not sure. Maybe you guys know more
Speaker 1: about what was going on there than I do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that our performances are better when we're doing
Speaker 1: things that we like. Do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like there was a certain element of, like, let's
Speaker 1: play to each other's strengths, whether that's in the writer's
Speaker 1: room or that's on set. And so I can see
Speaker 1: in us as young actresses on the show. I can
Speaker 1: see in the boys, like in Chad's confessional in this
Speaker 1: episode when he's talking about the brothers stuff. Chad loves
Speaker 1: his brothers in real life, and so Chad talking about
Speaker 1: brotherhood in this episode that's real to him. And that
Speaker 1: performance is great. And so for us Brooke Davis doing
Speaker 1: the leadership stuff and like and like being inspired and
Speaker 1: being more that's real, and talking about these major trust issues,
Speaker 1: that's real. You singing is real, you know. So the
Speaker 1: things that we that we got to explore that we're
Speaker 1: closest to us, I think are the things that we
Speaker 1: really thrived in that's a great point. So if you
Speaker 1: really came alive as Brooke in a new way, I
Speaker 1: think not. I don't know if it's been I feel
Speaker 1: like it's been happening over the course of the episode,
Speaker 1: but I saw something different in this one of and
Speaker 1: I loved how Lucas was encouraging brookes uh in intellectual
Speaker 1: growth and just the way that you It was seeing
Speaker 1: Brooke turned this corner in her life and realizing that
Speaker 1: she's worth so much more, which it's again, it's not
Speaker 1: something that we've never seen her have this moment before.
Speaker 1: I think I was just really recognizing her sink into
Speaker 1: it for the first time. Do you have memories about
Speaker 1: this episode or what how the storyline started to change
Speaker 1: for you once she became class president? Yeah, totally. I
Speaker 1: I felt closer to her, and I remember shooting that
Speaker 1: party and and you know, hill Or you were like,
Speaker 1: why are there all these goth kids there? Random topic
Speaker 1: threw up every customer time North Carolina, and they're like,
Speaker 1: send them to the tree Hill set, we need more beanies,
Speaker 1: we need fishnets. It was great, and I think you know,
Speaker 1: they did it to make it very clear that this
Speaker 1: wasn't like a normal Tree Hill party. Everything looked different
Speaker 1: than music was different, and I remember how sweet it felt.
Speaker 1: You know. We were at the point where like we
Speaker 1: couldn't totally go out in town anymore without being, you know,
Speaker 1: being recognized and like things happening. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: this isn't a judgment of the people who recognize us
Speaker 1: for being on TV. This is my my feelings as
Speaker 1: an anxious person. That was that got really hard for me,
Speaker 1: Like it gave me a lot of social anxiety, because yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think I've done enough pondering on the privilege
Speaker 1: of being in people's homes with them, But what happens
Speaker 1: when you're in someone's home with them every week is
Speaker 1: that you're real familiar to them, but to you, they're
Speaker 1: still strangers. And it got very strange for me. The
Speaker 1: combination of being familiar and also of being Brooke Davis,
Speaker 1: who was very sexualized. A lot of people would touch
Speaker 1: me in ways that made me very uncomfortable, and it
Speaker 1: took me years to figure out how to start setting
Speaker 1: boundaries around that stuff with strangers, because I never wanted
Speaker 1: to ruin anyone's day. But I say all of this
Speaker 1: to illustrate like it tugged on my heartstrings seeing Brooke
Speaker 1: and Lucas and Mouth and Anna kind of find their
Speaker 1: way to that side room at the party, and Brooks
Speaker 1: seeing Erica like that and going, I'm not having a
Speaker 1: good time, and I know I've been there and that's
Speaker 1: not a good time either. It all just felt cathartic
Speaker 1: for me, and I've so often been the person who's
Speaker 1: gotten other people home, and just like Camp counseled my
Speaker 1: way through things, and yeah, I don't know. I I
Speaker 1: loved being at this point with her where she didn't
Speaker 1: need to like be the party, cheer everyone on, make
Speaker 1: everyone take shots. She was like, I'm actually just not
Speaker 1: feeling this and I want to go home and read
Speaker 1: a book. She was excited to get home and just
Speaker 1: flipped through that book the Lucas gave her, and then
Speaker 1: the memo of like the quote that she's reading, you know,
Speaker 1: she's talking about, you know, don't let the things of
Speaker 1: the past get in the way of the future. And
Speaker 1: Lucas has given her this beautiful book that is looking
Speaker 1: to her future, her presidency, and Felix has thrown her
Speaker 1: this like raging weird party's very much her past, and
Speaker 1: these boys are now embodying past in future and so
Speaker 1: we know what she's gonna pick. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it and and and I think she's finding purpose
Speaker 1: at the same time as Lucas is really reclaiming his nobility.
Speaker 1: You know, he was a character who lost his way
Speaker 1: in season one, and here he is being a good
Speaker 1: guy and he's showing up for Keith, and he's showing
Speaker 1: up for Nathan, and he's showing up for Haley even
Speaker 1: while she's gone, And that that trajectory for them feels
Speaker 1: so much more rooted in integrity than like two people
Speaker 1: who just decided to hook up a year ago. You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool. Well, sometimes you have to take
Speaker 1: a couple of steps back, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There have been people in my life where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we kissed, and they're like, what an asshole? And then
Speaker 1: you don't talk for a little while, and then you
Speaker 1: come back and you slowly rebuild. Yeah, it's like, oh, actually,
Speaker 1: there are things that are lovely about you that don't
Speaker 1: involve you know, swap and spit and let's you know,
Speaker 1: get to know those things. And I think Brooke and
Speaker 1: Lucas are a great example of that. Because it was
Speaker 1: real hot and heavy, real fast in season one with
Speaker 1: no line, real payoff, you know. Yeah, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I like it. And Brooke Davis and then an Ubert.
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say about it. God,
Speaker 1: it's coming, d W. I Safe just launched that app,
Speaker 1: and we can only hire drivers that were like student
Speaker 1: government presidents because we know they will sexually assault. I'm
Speaker 1: so weird it out with like, you know, pick up apps,
Speaker 1: because oh my gosh, you know, I see all the
Speaker 1: news and I'm just like, this is the worst. I
Speaker 1: would love for a high school senior who just needs
Speaker 1: like a job to pick me up, that would want
Speaker 1: to be very sweet. Yeah. I just love that she
Speaker 1: saw Erica in that place. God, and I love Brook
Speaker 1: and Erica together. I love them. I said watching it, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a great team. They're so good. And this idea
Speaker 1: that she took Erica home from a party and came
Speaker 1: up with this idea. You know, She's like there has
Speaker 1: to be something here, so she sits working on her
Speaker 1: laptop and comes up with a safe ride program. I
Speaker 1: just love it. And the Felix party, Like, is he
Speaker 1: part of like a secret weirdo club? Because because there
Speaker 1: were so many Randas at the party at West Find
Speaker 1: all those people we went to the Molly went to topic.
Speaker 1: But it was such a weird scene for a high
Speaker 1: school party too, because they also all seemed older in
Speaker 1: a way. But it wasn't college kids. It was like
Speaker 1: the coffeehouse kids that do slam poetry. I mean literally
Speaker 1: who I hung out with in high school. But in
Speaker 1: terms of weird parties for tree Hill, it was weird.
Speaker 1: Also interesting that Anna had no feedback about it, Like
Speaker 1: they didn't write Anna having any sort of commentary or
Speaker 1: judgment on her brother's friend, which now in hindsight feels
Speaker 1: like a miss. She's just like, this is Felix. Felix
Speaker 1: is a freak, dude. I'm telling you you're probably what
Speaker 1: if he's dancing with glow sticks in his basement like
Speaker 1: when he leaves, like the flaming balls on strings. But
Speaker 1: remember host also like beat box when we were when
Speaker 1: we be filming. Oh yeah, that's right, he's just downstairs
Speaker 1: with glow sticks like beatboxing. Weird stuff ever went to
Speaker 1: in high school? It wasn't really I didn't really get
Speaker 1: invited to a lot of parties, and well, Joy, you
Speaker 1: were working on a soap opera. You were adult things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a little bit of a grown up. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. Oh you know what I did do? Um.
Speaker 1: I remember spending I hung out with Jessica Beale and
Speaker 1: her seventeenth birthday in New York because we're both on
Speaker 1: we were both Why was I Why was I in
Speaker 1: that circle? I can't remember because I wasn't on the
Speaker 1: show yet, but it was, but I was. I think
Speaker 1: I was eighteen or nineteen. I think I was on
Speaker 1: a soap at the time. Yeah, and yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like an all night I remember going it was she
Speaker 1: had a limo and going to different clubs and she
Speaker 1: was a sweetheart. I loved her. Yeah, but I just
Speaker 1: remember it was like at four o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: us the limo pulling over and going into another club
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, guys, I'm going home. I can't.
Speaker 1: I don't do this stuff. Have fun, bye bye, because
Speaker 1: so late. Yeah that's tomorrow you did tomorrow morning. You
Speaker 1: did great. I really lasted as long as I could.
Speaker 1: But that's I think that's the craziest thing. I remember
Speaker 1: the wildest night when we hit up a lot of
Speaker 1: different places. Yeah, like the weirdest party that you ended up.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I mean high school for us,
Speaker 1: because I went to that little all girls school and
Speaker 1: then there were like other all boys schools around and
Speaker 1: so there it was always like a house party where
Speaker 1: people would get together, and then it was always a
Speaker 1: big deal. Like we were going from Pasadena and the
Speaker 1: kids who like went to Loyola downtown, they were like
Speaker 1: kids from the West Side who were to go downtown.
Speaker 1: But we wouldn't go downtown, but we they're like, that's
Speaker 1: where one of the boys schools was, and so it
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, the West Side boys are having
Speaker 1: a party in the Palisades on Saturday. And I was
Speaker 1: always the designated driver. I was always like, my mom
Speaker 1: will kill me. She's scary. I'll drive and I've yeah, no, truly,
Speaker 1: I was just like, pile in the truck, let's go.
Speaker 1: I believe that Maureen is no joke. My mom was
Speaker 1: so scary, and my my mom was just like, if
Speaker 1: you and you're ever going to get one over on me,
Speaker 1: you won't. And if you ever get drunk at a party,
Speaker 1: don't trust your idiot friends. Call me and I'll come
Speaker 1: pick you up. But you only won't be in trouble
Speaker 1: if I come pick you up. And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll get in trouble or my mom will come pick
Speaker 1: me up, and that's social sue. So I just can't
Speaker 1: do this. I think I got drunk like five times
Speaker 1: in high school and oh my god, you got drunk
Speaker 1: high school? Uh? I was just outside of Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Kids were getting drunk like every night. I was like,
Speaker 1: everyone made fun of me for being so like when
Speaker 1: we lived there, people were like the kids in l
Speaker 1: A do cocaine in middle school And I was like,
Speaker 1: what you got right there? What was your crazy party?
Speaker 1: But see we go to the West Side, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think a crazy part. You know, parties after shows,
Speaker 1: come on, rap parties, let's get crazy. I mean those
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily wild. When we moved to Wilmington' That's when
Speaker 1: my party game was like strang um because we were
Speaker 1: like people had snakes and we were you know, like
Speaker 1: it was a whole scene. Well, and you came from
Speaker 1: New York where the bars are open till four and year,
Speaker 1: so you were like you were from party central. I
Speaker 1: would say the weirdest party I ever went to was
Speaker 1: when I was like eighteen or nineteen at MTV, and
Speaker 1: Gideon Yego, who did news on TRL, was well I wish,
Speaker 1: and I was like where Gideon Diego was the Jake
Speaker 1: Jiguel Ski of MTV, like perfect dudes. He went to Columbia.
Speaker 1: He was so smart, he did like Rock the Vote,
Speaker 1: like he was just so cool, like beyond cool and
Speaker 1: so handsome. And he invited me to like a party
Speaker 1: in an abandoned building, and I was like, okay, I
Speaker 1: had a boyfriend, of course, and so we go to
Speaker 1: this like already you know, in an abandon like I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure, like there was no power in this building,
Speaker 1: Like it was so weird. And we rolled up and
Speaker 1: everyone was like rave dancing and it was like really
Speaker 1: like thumpy music and also like plastic all over the place,
Speaker 1: just like the walls, and it was like a Dexter
Speaker 1: kill room. It was so fucking weird. But Gideon is
Speaker 1: the one who introduced me to this scene, and I
Speaker 1: was like I have to pretend like I think this
Speaker 1: is so cool. He's so cool. Um, And I remember
Speaker 1: like leaving being so relieved that I hadn't embarrassed myself,
Speaker 1: like when you're in a scene like that, all you
Speaker 1: want to do is escape without being the butt of
Speaker 1: the joke. That's it. That's when you're young and you're
Speaker 1: at a party like you, especially that age, you're just
Speaker 1: and the person who you put on a pedestal invites you.
Speaker 1: You're just like, how am I going to get through
Speaker 1: the next two hours of this? I have sometimes in
Speaker 1: situations like that, it's the anticipation that kills me, Like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I recently met someone who I just think
Speaker 1: is so cool, and I've thought that this person was
Speaker 1: cool forever. I can't tell you, guys, well, i'll tell
Speaker 1: you're gonna I'll tell you after, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell the world. And I and I was like, we
Speaker 1: have this one thing in common and it's kind of weird,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna come up with a really funny joke
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be great. And then we met and
Speaker 1: we had the best conversation, and then she brought up
Speaker 1: the thing and completely in the in the most charming way,
Speaker 1: like undercut the opportunity for the joke. But I was
Speaker 1: I had been thinking about this joke for two weeks,
Speaker 1: and so I told the joke anyway, and it was
Speaker 1: got you guys have got so weird. She just kind
Speaker 1: of looked at me, and then I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I just was I've been thinking about that
Speaker 1: for a while. A note now, I said, I just
Speaker 1: started like, you guys have got weirder and worse. And
Speaker 1: so I guess the moral of the story is that
Speaker 1: my awkward parties were not in high school. They're happening
Speaker 1: to me now as adults. I'm not allowed. I'm not
Speaker 1: allowed in public anymore. I'm just not oh so much.
Speaker 1: It was bad for different of us. Sometimes it's Sophie's
Speaker 1: mystery friend Getty Jego slash in a Dexter murder geek
Speaker 1: out for who is it? Do you know who? I who?
Speaker 1: I geeked out about? He lived in an apartment building
Speaker 1: right now, That's right, Okay, never mind anyway, secrets cannot
Speaker 1: talk about You guys can't know about this stuff. But
Speaker 1: I did have. Here's one funny thing I do remember
Speaker 1: when I lived in when I lived in New York,
Speaker 1: and I went to a party for Nantucket Film Festival
Speaker 1: because I was doing a reading at the Nantucket Film Festival,
Speaker 1: which they never invited me back to because I was weird.
Speaker 1: That was so geeky about everybody there. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I remember talking. I had this very serious conversation on
Speaker 1: a balcony of a New York apartment with a massive
Speaker 1: view over to Rebecca, you know, of the river. And
Speaker 1: I was talking with Fisher Stevens out on the patio
Speaker 1: for like minutes and he was great. And then I
Speaker 1: walked inside and I started I started talking with Tate
Speaker 1: Donovan and he gave me his number, tat babe, I know.
Speaker 1: And then I went home. And then the next day
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, okay, I'm gonna call I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call him, and I did and he left a message
Speaker 1: and I thought it was very charming. And then he
Speaker 1: never called me back. Oh, because I was not charming.
Speaker 1: I was so awkward and so like babbling over myself
Speaker 1: and just had no bet you were. But I know,
Speaker 1: let me tell you the thing about when I run
Speaker 1: into a man that I am attracted to, all my
Speaker 1: like cool, laid back joy goes away and I suddenly
Speaker 1: become like, I don't know, my tongue doesn't fit in
Speaker 1: my mouth, I don't know how to talk, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to stand. It's just stupid. What am I
Speaker 1: do with my body? Let our arms? Where do they go? No?
Speaker 1: Forget about it? Oh well good, all right, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna throw some really comfortable parties, ladies, after all the
Speaker 1: awkward party and we've done, Hey, we should take this
Speaker 1: opportunity to say we're gonna throw a really comfortable party
Speaker 1: on March with Brand Greenberg, and we hope all of
Speaker 1: you join us. I just wanted to throw that in there,
Speaker 1: just like a slide into home base. Just you know,
Speaker 1: slide it in and you can get tickets to our
Speaker 1: wonderful party on looped live dot com. That's looped l
Speaker 1: o O P l i v E looped live dot com. Okay,
Speaker 1: we we had a thought about something we need to
Speaker 1: talk about and we came up with a way to
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, so now that we've established we're all
Speaker 1: terribly awkward at parties, I want to talk about my
Speaker 1: two favorite awkward people at Felix's awkward party, hands down
Speaker 1: Anna and Oh Yeah I love them their little friendship
Speaker 1: and them breaking into the school. And then decided when
Speaker 1: when malcoes it would be wrong to watch this right,
Speaker 1: maybe just a couple of minutes. Oh my god, really
Speaker 1: Brooks confession that she would be with somebody like Marvin
Speaker 1: Senator and that's priceless. I j I U no idea.
Speaker 1: Caught me so off guard that when Brooks said it,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was mouth and I was like what, yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And then when he says to Anna
Speaker 1: in the hall at the end, he goes, just don't
Speaker 1: hit on Brooke, I have enough competition for her. That was,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, their little friendship. But I just
Speaker 1: I thought Daniella did such a gorgeous job in her
Speaker 1: confessional and then the opportunity to have it again and
Speaker 1: for her to lean into who she is and and
Speaker 1: be clearer about why she doesn't like the labels and
Speaker 1: how she doesn't have the answers. God, I just thought
Speaker 1: it was beautiful. Man. I love that the message of
Speaker 1: this one thing doesn't define me. That I thought is
Speaker 1: really powerful and beautiful and so much better than her
Speaker 1: original confession or moment or whatever you wanna call it
Speaker 1: with the with that camera. I just read this really
Speaker 1: wonderful editorial that was posted on Twitter, so I wish
Speaker 1: I knew who actually wrote it, and it was about
Speaker 1: gay characters on television and how you know, we're almost
Speaker 1: twenty years out from when this episode originally aired, and
Speaker 1: some things have changed, which is awesome. Some things have not,
Speaker 1: and we're seeing a lot of that right now play
Speaker 1: out in the news and also in television. You know,
Speaker 1: there are more gay characters on TV now, but that
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily always mean that they're better um or that
Speaker 1: they're well written. And a lot of times gay characters
Speaker 1: can be used as like the punchline. Um. They can
Speaker 1: be used as just kind of like checking the box,
Speaker 1: and that's really frustrating. And so there was a writer
Speaker 1: who was talking about the gay characters that make an
Speaker 1: impact to her as a gay writer, and she was like,
Speaker 1: it's the ones that don't have it figured out, you know.
Speaker 1: It's it's the characters that are in their process of
Speaker 1: discovery and who are a little bit messy. And I
Speaker 1: appreciate that Anna doesn't just come out swinging, you know,
Speaker 1: and allows room for discovery because when you are a teenager,
Speaker 1: I grew up with kids that have known since they
Speaker 1: were very very little, and that's awesome, and I want
Speaker 1: that kind of reassurance and self awareness for my friends.
Speaker 1: But there are also people who arrived at it later
Speaker 1: and really struggled because high school is all about being performative, right,
Speaker 1: and so if you're not performing something that's true to you,
Speaker 1: it gets very muddy. So that process of discovery is
Speaker 1: really important. And gay characters on TV that take the
Speaker 1: walk with the viewers are vital. And Anna, I love
Speaker 1: her for this, and she's just so earnest. There's nothing
Speaker 1: false about Daniela No, And I loved the I loved
Speaker 1: the earnestness and the nervousness in her first past. You know,
Speaker 1: hopefully if fifty years from now it won't be a
Speaker 1: big deal I'm bisexual, if it's still a big deal, surprise,
Speaker 1: you know, like, what's what's it all going to mean?
Speaker 1: And then she realized that that that wasn't what she
Speaker 1: wanted to say. And in that second past, after she
Speaker 1: admitted to mouth, oh god, when she said, I thought
Speaker 1: I'd feel liberated and said I'm back here, I'm back
Speaker 1: in the closet. Sweet, it was just so sweet. And
Speaker 1: you realize that it's for so many people in this
Speaker 1: moment of life, whenever they're coming out happens, it's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of coming out and then a little
Speaker 1: bit of back to safety. And a little bit more,
Speaker 1: and you've got to test the waters man. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: see if you have a safe person, if not even
Speaker 1: a group of safe people, do you have one safe person?
Speaker 1: It's so valuable this the message that it's okay to
Speaker 1: be messy and and take take your time and explore
Speaker 1: and you don't have to have everything right and sort
Speaker 1: it out right now, especially for high school. Oh god,
Speaker 1: and this measure of perfection is just so tough. We
Speaker 1: would have we we really just see you guys at
Speaker 1: home not have been trying to get Danielle on the show. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: she's kind of like in demand right now and she's
Speaker 1: like working, so we're trying, like literally every episode, we're like,
Speaker 1: can we have her now? I would have loved to
Speaker 1: have her for this um yeah, because I know I
Speaker 1: feel like we should talk about this episode with her
Speaker 1: when she finally can make it work. Yeah, Yeah, that'd
Speaker 1: be great. It's just so good. And you know when
Speaker 1: you said that thing, Joy, you just reminded me when
Speaker 1: you said it's so important to show people it's okay
Speaker 1: to be messy. Everyone's a little bit of a mess
Speaker 1: in this episode, and some of it's painful, you know,
Speaker 1: Nathan's in pain. Some of it's beautiful, you know, Jake's
Speaker 1: trying to figure himself out, and Peyton's trying to figure
Speaker 1: out if she can be vulnerable with Jake, and and
Speaker 1: they'll figure Outrell. But I love these kids just trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out in this time capsule, and and
Speaker 1: even Brooke trying to figure herself out, saying, you know,
Speaker 1: there's this double standard and it sucks like guys are
Speaker 1: allowed to be like this and we're not. And God,
Speaker 1: I hope you guys fix that because it makes it
Speaker 1: really hard for the girls to figure it out. Brooks
Speaker 1: time capsule monologue is so dope. Get to do monologues often.
Speaker 1: It really felt like going back to theater because everyone
Speaker 1: was assigned I'm gonna do my monologue and you just
Speaker 1: had to sit in that room and you had to
Speaker 1: do it all in one past, you know. And Brooks
Speaker 1: monologue it was awesome because you just see like boss
Speaker 1: Brooks show up. Yes, I loved it. I wish Haley
Speaker 1: had gotten a monologue. You never did one as like
Speaker 1: a no. I wish they would have like had me
Speaker 1: mail one in for the school or something that would
Speaker 1: have been fun. What would Haley have said in her monologue,
Speaker 1: Oh look at that point in her life, She's kissed
Speaker 1: sweet sweet pillow lips. Chris Keller. I think Haley would say, Um,
Speaker 1: I've I've always worked really hard, and I've always tried
Speaker 1: to do my best and be the best person that
Speaker 1: I could be. And I've gone off the example of
Speaker 1: my parents and so many people around me, and I
Speaker 1: take all the cautionary tales around me that I see
Speaker 1: and I put them in my arsenal of what not
Speaker 1: to do. And I am the person that everyone comes
Speaker 1: to for advice. And the truth is, I'm just a
Speaker 1: scared little girl and I don't have it all figured out,
Speaker 1: and I needed to take a minute and be reckless
Speaker 1: and be brave in a way that I've never been
Speaker 1: and be unsafe. So that's what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1: And I really hope that there's forgiveness waiting for me
Speaker 1: on the other side. Oh, you don't even need forgiveness.
Speaker 1: You don't even need, but you know what, Look, people
Speaker 1: get hurt when you're messy, and you have to apologize
Speaker 1: for that, and that's okay. I think that's part of life.
Speaker 1: I think actually forgiveness is an incredibly integral part of
Speaker 1: a functioning society. You have to be able to admit
Speaker 1: when you've made a mistake, because we all do, and
Speaker 1: then be able to forgive when someone has hurt you
Speaker 1: because you've made a mistake. That is a basic functional
Speaker 1: need for any community, any person. It's it's not a
Speaker 1: magic thing. It's a choice. So when Hailey went away,
Speaker 1: like this is something that's going to hurt Nathan, everybody
Speaker 1: says it, you can it coming you as joy? How
Speaker 1: did you feel about Haley's action of leaving? It was hard.
Speaker 1: It was hard to support her because okay, so me
Speaker 1: as joy when I was twenty, or me as joy
Speaker 1: now when you were just when I was twenty, I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: when I was twenty, it was it was hard because
Speaker 1: I so much was Haley and was trying to do
Speaker 1: everything right and wanted to set the perfect example and
Speaker 1: didn't want to do the wrong thing, and I wanted
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I cared about trying to be perfect.
Speaker 1: Me now definitely does not care about done. But so yeah,
Speaker 1: by um, I care about living a life of gratitude
Speaker 1: and and um just soaking up every moment of every
Speaker 1: day that I can with the people that I love,
Speaker 1: and um, just trying to do the right thing out
Speaker 1: of out of a place of gratitude, not out of
Speaker 1: a place of trying to check off all the boxes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's the major difference. It's very Valjean and Javert.
Speaker 1: We really joy. One of these days we're going to
Speaker 1: like reenact our lay Miss performance. Oh my god, when
Speaker 1: did we remember we did that? We ran through lame
Speaker 1: Is in like six minutes, it was, and it was
Speaker 1: in Haley's apartment. It was for one of our PA's birthdays,
Speaker 1: r p A Dawn. It was her birthday, and we
Speaker 1: were like, we're going to perform the entirety of lame
Speaker 1: Is in six minutes during the turnaround, and we did.
Speaker 1: And so one day we'll redo that. But I see
Speaker 1: what you're saying, like you're you're softened now, like Jean
Speaker 1: Valjean from Miss. Yes, It's like I was hard and
Speaker 1: I was, you know, angry, and then I was I
Speaker 1: was also trying to live live exactly right and do
Speaker 1: everything exactly the right way, which is very legalistic and
Speaker 1: that sort of religious mindset. And now I think I've
Speaker 1: changed my my I know I've changed my perspective massively.
Speaker 1: So now it's like I've I feel like I'm living
Speaker 1: under this umbrella of grace where I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 1: so i can be a mess and that's kind of
Speaker 1: the point and I'm doing my best and I'm just
Speaker 1: super grateful. So that's it. Anyway, we're kind of getting
Speaker 1: off track. Sorry, but I'm I just feel like watching
Speaker 1: Haley walk away with Nathan, I give her space for that. Now.
Speaker 1: Back then it was it was a little harder to
Speaker 1: to very long windedly answer your question, Hilary. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean I can see like because we were there, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're friends with you when we were twenty two years
Speaker 1: old when we were doing this. Yeah, and in my
Speaker 1: head I can hear you being like, that's not what
Speaker 1: a wife does, Like yeah, I would never you know,
Speaker 1: like you have always been um firm about justice and
Speaker 1: like gritty and so I can see you like reading
Speaker 1: the script and be like what the Yeah, yeah, interested
Speaker 1: I've room for now you gotta make space for you
Speaker 1: also got to go on tour, so you know, I
Speaker 1: was just going to ask what was it like, because
Speaker 1: it's not like you were just sitting at home being
Speaker 1: like I can't believe. They wrote that, like, you were
Speaker 1: on tour. Yeah, it was super cool. You were out
Speaker 1: doing something cool, was it? But was there like a
Speaker 1: conflict in it? Or was tour just so all encompassing
Speaker 1: and you were betraying James? No, but I missed him.
Speaker 1: I know. I didn't feel like I was betraying James.
Speaker 1: I had a blast. I was having so much fun.
Speaker 1: I was definitely experimenting with a new side of my
Speaker 1: life and and a part of me that I'd always
Speaker 1: wanted to see come alive. So it was a great opportunity.
Speaker 1: Was so much fun. I loved doing stops of the
Speaker 1: tour and and being witnessed to that. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: guys out to come introduce the shows. I never No,
Speaker 1: I never got to do that. Oh I went on
Speaker 1: the road. I was on to us and God, I
Speaker 1: was just like, my friends are so freaking cool. I
Speaker 1: was pumped, where were you or something? Because I didn't
Speaker 1: know Hillary, because I didn't get to go. We didn't
Speaker 1: get to go in the beginning. It was only when
Speaker 1: the show was wrapped, and then there were a couple
Speaker 1: more dates. Right after this season we were doing Secret Life,
Speaker 1: weren't you. That's summer weren't you were either doing that
Speaker 1: movie you did with Jason Ritter or The Secret Life
Speaker 1: of Bees. You were doing a movie. I did the
Speaker 1: movie in Louisiana right after this where I met Elizabeth Arnoa.
Speaker 1: It was Elizabeth because then when we come back, like
Speaker 1: the next year, Lizarne Wash shows up to play Shelley.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, friend, let me have her. What
Speaker 1: was that called? Who knows? Come on, look, come to me?
Speaker 1: This is where we he did insert the Jeopardy music
Speaker 1: was say we did it? Were you guys? Sisters? Because
Speaker 1: you all kind of look alike? I played like the
Speaker 1: super like waspy. Where's Pastel's like rich bitch? Oh interesting? Incidentally,
Speaker 1: very similar to the character Hillary plays on Good Sam,
Speaker 1: which is also coming up on March. You're right, the
Speaker 1: character I play on Good Sam. It's like the grown
Speaker 1: up version of who I was in just like she's scary, fancy,
Speaker 1: Like I have a meeting to get to I skipped
Speaker 1: a p T A meeting for the because I have
Speaker 1: a question. Okay, how the hell does Dan know how
Speaker 1: to find everybody everywhere all the time? No, Like, seriously,
Speaker 1: I have I have a theory. Does Dan Scott motors
Speaker 1: put trackers in the cars he sells. Yes, don't you remember?
Speaker 1: There was a big scandal because because paparazzi who were
Speaker 1: working for TMZ had put trackers under Jessica Simpson's car.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's horrendous. You guys, this was a
Speaker 1: thing and they were doing it to like all yes,
Speaker 1: they were doing it to all these celebrities. There was
Speaker 1: a whole big lawsuit, I totally remember, and because everyone
Speaker 1: was like, how are they always finding in these like
Speaker 1: really weird private places. And I'm literally thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't going to say it, but yes,
Speaker 1: so I was like, is Dan Scott, like O G
Speaker 1: t MZ does he track? Maybe he's such a freak.
Speaker 1: It's just so weird that he shows in church, Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, why is Dan going walking into it?
Speaker 1: I know, it's just so like why would he be
Speaker 1: in there except that he's following Jewels. Sometimes our show
Speaker 1: is so on the nose. It's just like Juels is
Speaker 1: in a church brain because she's in such a conundrum. Guys,
Speaker 1: when I and I want to talk to Jesus about it,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go to my bedroom, Like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go into a physical church, me to usually
Speaker 1: go into the bathroom cry alone, magically every single time
Speaker 1: I walk into the bathroom, Mommy, like without fail for
Speaker 1: the last eleven Daughter's got a tracker on you? Is what.
Speaker 1: I love it. But Dan is so devious in this,
Speaker 1: And I was so unsettled when the boys got out
Speaker 1: of jail, and it's clear that Lucas has shared everything
Speaker 1: with Nathan, everything, and Dan, who is a man of secrets, says, good,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you told him your brothers, you know, like
Speaker 1: you should have told him. And it just felt like
Speaker 1: really bad foreshadowing, like what is Dan gonna spill to Keith,
Speaker 1: who's so vulnerable and so happy right now, who just
Speaker 1: bought a house for him and jewels. He's so fragile,
Speaker 1: so fragile. And the boys get arrested just after Dan
Speaker 1: had said to Jules he's going to let this one go,
Speaker 1: and she says, I don't believe you. It gave me
Speaker 1: the chills, would you like? I don't like it? No.
Speaker 1: I mean Maria looks so shattered sitting in that scene.
Speaker 1: I mean, she did a beautiful job just sitting in
Speaker 1: that church like that. She just looks broken and afraid,
Speaker 1: and it was like that is how felt them the
Speaker 1: inside when he said that you told him you should
Speaker 1: have your brother's some bad's gonna happen. I feel it.
Speaker 1: I feel it coming, and she she you, guys, are
Speaker 1: I set you up? Girl? I loved it. I'm backing
Speaker 1: up what you're putting down. No. But she has to
Speaker 1: express so much in those scenes because it is um
Speaker 1: a little bit of a choppy storyline, because it's like
Speaker 1: we just jump into it sometimes, and she has to
Speaker 1: express that she really does love Keith, that she's really
Speaker 1: wanting to be with him, she's afraid of this man
Speaker 1: who originally hired her and now is like lording this
Speaker 1: information over her head. Like it's a lot to articulate
Speaker 1: in these scenes without being able to say that, And
Speaker 1: so Maria was just like a disgusted look. It's just
Speaker 1: like who are you? Yeah? What monster? Who did this
Speaker 1: to you? Here's horrible? Can we talk about the kiss though,
Speaker 1: when Keith takes her by the hair, when he runs
Speaker 1: his hand through her hair and kisses her. Thanks Keith,
Speaker 1: we all needed that. Yeah, Craig's earnest face in that scene, guys,
Speaker 1: it made me. It makes me cringe. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I want to love it, I want to be It
Speaker 1: makes me like run, run, run, far, far away. What
Speaker 1: do you mean with your hair? No, when a man
Speaker 1: buys you a house, he's so earnest, he's so eager,
Speaker 1: he's so needy, and so needs the validation of that
Speaker 1: he's doing it right it. I don't know. Maybe this
Speaker 1: is my childhood trauma. Guys, I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: if if I can't deal with it, it's um it
Speaker 1: does nobody else have this issue? Your vibe? Joy? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm your friend, and I know you well enough to
Speaker 1: know that you like a little like man, a dirt
Speaker 1: on the boot, you know what. I like a little grouch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's funny to me though, because I'm like needy, I
Speaker 1: didn't read him giving her a house as needy. It
Speaker 1: feels needy listening, non judgment. It feels needy, like he's
Speaker 1: not actually just giving it, he's he needs to be here.
Speaker 1: To me, the my interpretation of it is that it's
Speaker 1: actually more about him needing the validation of being the
Speaker 1: guy who could provide this in this moment, who can
Speaker 1: show up and beat Yes, Hillary the hero and it
Speaker 1: doesn't just it doesn't just feel natural and authentic and
Speaker 1: just there. He's just trying so hard to be exactly
Speaker 1: what she needs that it puts it really puts me
Speaker 1: off as a romantic interest. Sometimes these writers stress me
Speaker 1: out because all teen right, it takes a lot of effort,
Speaker 1: and we all know you don't buy a house in
Speaker 1: like three weeks. Oh my god, do you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? He takes so long to close on a house.
Speaker 1: If you could you imagine if you had just gotten
Speaker 1: engaged and the person who's supposed to be your partner goes,
Speaker 1: look at this giant decision I made without you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's weird. It's intense. I'd be like, what if I
Speaker 1: hate this kind of house? Are we stuck here? Like
Speaker 1: Jeffrey had bought a house two months before I met him,
Speaker 1: and so he had a house and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I live here now that's weird. And the
Speaker 1: second he did a movie here in New York, like
Speaker 1: we've been together, I don't know, maybe a year, and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, there's a little Tina tiny log
Speaker 1: Cavin for sale. I was like, done, we're moving. We
Speaker 1: bought this place and never went back to his house
Speaker 1: and like never we went and finally like sold our
Speaker 1: and I walked outside and the neighbors were like, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: are you the new neighbors. And I'm like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're the old neighbors leaving. We're done here. No, there's
Speaker 1: a it's an energy thing. When you're in a new relationship,
Speaker 1: you make decisions together together, especially is that big as
Speaker 1: a house? Property decisions take a solid eight months. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they take a long time. Yeah. I had a guy
Speaker 1: by me flowers before a date once, like they arrived
Speaker 1: a few hours before the date and I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I can't do this, No, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for Santon. I had a debrief whoever you become
Speaker 1: serious about next, Like he'll come to us and we'll
Speaker 1: be like hold on, hold on, hold on. There's some grounds.
Speaker 1: So I can't even imagine, like buying a house, a
Speaker 1: house before you Oh my god, be like no, no, honey, no, no,
Speaker 1: the thing that you think is sweet, don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. Ignore her. But that like,
Speaker 1: let's move on to the Andy then of it all,
Speaker 1: because Andy's showing up in a different way and I
Speaker 1: love the way Andy shows up. I love the way
Speaker 1: he shows up danger. Yeah, the like sleep I sleep
Speaker 1: with a baseball bat in my room, Like Italian part
Speaker 1: of me is like, that's the way I want a
Speaker 1: man to show up for me. Call and figure out
Speaker 1: what there is to get to destroy him. I love
Speaker 1: the Karen is finally on the war path. She has
Speaker 1: been so steady and patient and kind and just be
Speaker 1: generous and setting an example for my son, and now
Speaker 1: no holds barred man, she is just letting loose. I
Speaker 1: mean her in that freaking mediation. You're asked friend, boy haircut,
Speaker 1: You're asked ass. That's one of those things for our
Speaker 1: friends at home that really kills us, when you know
Speaker 1: you're on television and you can't say words normal people
Speaker 1: use when they're angry. So you just have to keep
Speaker 1: saying assy as asked face because you can't swear and
Speaker 1: say like you motherfucker, you took my kid? You know. God,
Speaker 1: It's so it was. She did it, and she did
Speaker 1: it beautifully straight faced. She did that straight faced. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. And Paul remained straight faced as well.
Speaker 1: God blessed someone was why she did it? Hurling that
Speaker 1: at me. I wouldn't take it. Um alright, I'm going
Speaker 1: through my notes here, guys. We take so many notes
Speaker 1: when we watch these things. The Tim Confessional, God, Brett
Speaker 1: clay Well, because he has to improvise so much of
Speaker 1: his stuff because they didn't really write for him. They
Speaker 1: would just say like, okay, go Brett, you know, and
Speaker 1: he would. And I think he's so funny. And I
Speaker 1: wish that Tim was utilized more because he's hate Um okay,
Speaker 1: what else Keith kissing Jewels? We did that part. Sex
Speaker 1: is the easy part. Giving your heart to someone is
Speaker 1: the hard part. I had so many fans like asked
Speaker 1: me to write that out and like, yeah, so I
Speaker 1: was like, that's a weird one. What do you mean
Speaker 1: when Peyton's like sex is the easy part. It's giving
Speaker 1: your heart to someone that's the hard part. And people
Speaker 1: are like, can you write this out on a thing
Speaker 1: at a convention? And I'm like, oh, interesting, okay, okay, hey,
Speaker 1: were you going to question? You know what I want
Speaker 1: written out from this episode? I want that's the thing
Speaker 1: that Anna said at the end when she says I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to find my way. I guess that part
Speaker 1: is timeless. I want fan art of I want I'm
Speaker 1: proud of me too. I loved that. Yeah that, I'm
Speaker 1: proud of you girls. I'm proud of you girls, and
Speaker 1: I'm proud of me too. I think we've all come
Speaker 1: a long way. Well, and then Nathan talking about Haley.
Speaker 1: If I love her and she loves me, what's there
Speaker 1: to figure out? Yeah? And I loved Lucas. When they
Speaker 1: finally start talking again and Luke says, your marriage wins
Speaker 1: out over some confused kiss. Remember the real Haley, even
Speaker 1: when she's lesser. Too good advice. You know, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 1: If this was all about loving perfect people, no one
Speaker 1: would ever be loved ever that is That is good
Speaker 1: advice as well. M hm m hmm. Guys, we can
Speaker 1: even you a lot to think about today. Hey, what
Speaker 1: kind of weirdo parties have you guys been to? Will
Speaker 1: you tell us? Yeah? Oh my god? Bonus points If
Speaker 1: you have pictures from your weird high school parts, we
Speaker 1: want to see them. Tag us should spin a wheel?
Speaker 1: I think I think I should. I love most likely
Speaker 1: to most likely to say something inappropriate time capsule, most
Speaker 1: likely to become a travel blogger. This actually feels like
Speaker 1: Erica marsh to me, I love that. Yeah, I fully
Speaker 1: believe it. She's got that little host sensibility. You know,
Speaker 1: she'd plan the ship out of a great itinerary. Yeah, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm here in Italy. Oh my god, isn't this gorgeous?
Speaker 1: Love her so much? Kind of this is so cool.
Speaker 1: But it's Kate vogel ate and lived in Paris and
Speaker 1: like did a whole blog about it, and it's Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's like a travel blogger and she does cool stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: is there anybody else in our cast that does that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we all kind of travel
Speaker 1: a lot, but I don't know about blogging. So he's
Speaker 1: like unfishing in Montana. I'm in Italy. I do travel
Speaker 1: a lot, but I don't have the patience to be
Speaker 1: like and then I boarded the L train, like I
Speaker 1: don't know. Hey, you know who has adventures and writes
Speaker 1: about them sometimes? Brian Greenberg? I know, you mean the
Speaker 1: Brian Greenberg that's coming on our live event on March
Speaker 1: just a pre game for a good Sama period. March
Speaker 1: is going to be a double up with your girls,
Speaker 1: and I hope you all are ready because it's can
Speaker 1: be quite a special special evening and guys, next up
Speaker 1: on this show, We've got season two, episode sixteen. Somewhere
Speaker 1: a clock is ticking. I'm telling you it's a ticking
Speaker 1: time bomb, and it's Damn Scott, Damn Scott. Damn He's
Speaker 1: Damn Scott, Damn Dan Scott. We're Scott from now. Dan.
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