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Speaker 3: all Black Women this week for our guest.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it's almost.

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Speaker 3: Black History Month, but we're just doing it ahead of

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Speaker 2: But we have reci Cobert, who is our first time guest.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I've seen her work all around

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Speaker 3: social media. You probably have two black women views is

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Speaker 3: the Twitter, you know, the YouTube and all of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Recie, how you doing. I'm good.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You for joining us.

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I've been a big fan

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Speaker 3: of your work for a while now. There was a

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Speaker 3: time on the Internet where I had to mute Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris's name because that's how much like attacks and stuff.

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Speaker 3: It was like you said her name and it just

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Speaker 3: like bots descended on you. And so for a while

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Speaker 3: I was just like, I'll come back to Kamala when

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Speaker 2: More research and stuff.

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Speaker 3: But by the time I unmuted, I saw that you

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Speaker 3: had done so much work kind of like debunking so

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Speaker 3: much of the like attacks on her, so many of

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Speaker 3: the lies about her, so many of the like ways

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Speaker 3: you know, and so I want to thank you for

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Speaker 3: the work you did. It was part of what helped

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Speaker 3: me to be able to be like, yo, y'all are

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Speaker 3: hating on Kamala in a way that's so unfair, and

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Speaker 2: If you kept that level of scrutiny with everyone.

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Speaker 3: Then I would understand, But then you probably would be like,

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Speaker 3: none of these people.

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Speaker 2: Are worthy if you kept that level of scrutiny. So

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Speaker 2: I just want to I just want to thank you

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, I mean it was there

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Speaker 4: it's very intimidating, or it was for most people to

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Speaker 4: were algorithms and there were bots and trolls that were

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Speaker 3: It's so weird because by winning, you know, being the

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Speaker 3: Because you know what's funny is like I still feel

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Speaker 3: like she could have been president if people wouldn't a

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Speaker 3: I believe it was Shirley Chishol who said a long

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Speaker 3: Gonna be the only path for Kamala to be president

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Speaker 3: is to have shown people, as usual with most women,

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Speaker 3: Instead it turns into like, well, now that you've already

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Speaker 3: don't think there's a thing you can level at Biden

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Speaker 3: that you can level at her that you can't level

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Speaker 3: at Biden. But I could have said the same thing

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Speaker 2: But for some.

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Speaker 3: Reason, I really believe that his white old maleness carried

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Speaker 3: criticism in a way that really just just like I said,

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Speaker 5: I agree, I think.

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Speaker 6: I think for me, what was frustrating about the whole

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Speaker 6: Commu Kamala.

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Speaker 5: Situation is this, people cried that they wanted diversity, Like

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Speaker 6: People cried that they wanted diversity they were tired of

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Speaker 6: the last time it was Hillary and Bernie not enough

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Speaker 6: moginlized people, not enough women, like they complained about that this.

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Speaker 5: Crop was the most diverse.

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Speaker 6: We had gays, we had black women, we had black men,

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Speaker 6: we had everything, every almost every diverse group that they

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Speaker 6: begged and they pleaded for right, and then some of

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Speaker 6: just and just criticized them to no end when this

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Speaker 5: Because I expect you to be above these white people.

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Speaker 6: But I'm not gonna hold these white people accountable who

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Speaker 6: actually did the same thing and sometimes even worse, and

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Speaker 6: sometimes voted for the shit that you're complaining about, passed

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Speaker 6: lows against the shit you were complaining about. But yet

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Speaker 6: of saying I love black and brown people, I love

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Speaker 5: Like my whole life work is this here is my work.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all you people that wanted this diversity, and then

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Speaker 6: you fall into white supremacy because a lot of these

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Speaker 6: what's really insulting is that when people come with the

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Speaker 6: didn't do it she was supposed But when it comes

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Speaker 5: Everything that they did, everything that they passed.

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Speaker 6: I consistently see you online, never forget hashtagging talking about

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Speaker 6: But it's very frustrating to me to you get the

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Speaker 5: Y'all the first people crying online.

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Speaker 7: When oh, Lord have mercy, y'all let the black woman go,

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Speaker 7: Lord have mercy.

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Speaker 5: It ain't fail, It ain't right.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm sick of people not supporting nigglie.

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Speaker 5: That was your money. Where were you at?

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Speaker 3: I remember when she had to drop out and Sean

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Speaker 3: King tweeted some shit about like, you know, even though

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Speaker 2: I was like, nigga, you it's like you were.

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Speaker 3: Stabbing people in the back and being like, who did this?

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Speaker 2: This dead person is on the ground, Well, how did

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Speaker 6: And and and I and I think for me, and

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry to go for an attendent about this, but

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Speaker 6: It's one of those things where I realized when black

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Speaker 3: When she said that she would, they were like, you're

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Speaker 3: That's when I started seeing a tax on Stacey Abrams too,

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Speaker 2: Like, well, actually she's a loser.

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Speaker 3: She I'm like, Nigga, you was you were black woman,

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Speaker 2: It was, it was every reason to not consider her.

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Speaker 4: Not until Biden the primaries were over? Was or what

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Speaker 4: Raised for her in South Carolina. He was a big

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Speaker 3: There were like a lot of black power motherfuckers like

436
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Speaker 3: she not a real black woman. Here's and it's like, well,

437
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 3: here's a picture her from Howard. She looked pretty black

438
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Speaker 3: to me. It's like, you know, she just turned black

439
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Speaker 3: just this whatever. So like, how did you deal with that?

440
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, let me say about that. First

441
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 4: of all, that was not an organic narrative that was

442
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 4: put out there. That was very much pushed and you know,

443
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 4: I'm a stats girl, I'm a numbers girl and receipts

444
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 4: and one of the things that was interesting after the

445
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Speaker 4: June debate, right in twenty nineteen, I was on talk

446
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 4: about all the relishuit whatever. But there was a study

447
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: that was done and they're out of the two hundred

448
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 4: thousand attacks that were tweeted about against all of the

449
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 4: candidates combined, Kamala Harris got one hundred and eighty one

450
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Speaker 4: thousand of those. And that's at the time where she's placed.

451
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Speaker 4: She's pulling fourth, you know, fourth place at that time.

452
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 4: So there was always this very much manufactured thing. And

453
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Speaker 4: then there was a nutty study that was done and

454
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Speaker 4: it looked at the nature of the attacks on each candidate.

455
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Speaker 4: Some people were attacked. Most people were attacked on things

456
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,360
Speaker 4: like policy. And as much as Kamala Harris got dragged

457
00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 4: over people lying about her being not being progress of

458
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 4: a net or whatever else, the number one thing that

459
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Speaker 4: she was attacked on was actually her identity. And that's

460
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Speaker 4: where you had a convergence of the white supremacist community

461
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Speaker 4: who they know how to get to us. You know,

462
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 4: if you undercut somebody's blackness, then you undercut that protection,

463
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Speaker 4: that sense of community that we have to defend her.

464
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Speaker 2: But that was the.

465
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Speaker 4: Overwhelming proportion of the attacks on her. It had nothing

466
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Speaker 4: to do with anything else. And you know, somebody mentioned

467
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Speaker 4: in the comments atos so one thing that's interesting. One

468
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: thing I noticed the very first day that she announced

469
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Speaker 4: her her presidential campaign. This hashtag popped up Tangible's twenty

470
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Speaker 4: twenty and I said, Okay, this is interesting. I've never

471
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Speaker 4: seen this before. And I clicked on the hashtag of

472
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 4: this is on Instagram. One hundred percent of the posts

473
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 4: are against Kamala and I'm like, uh, what the hell

474
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Speaker 4: is this? So over time I started to realize, Okay,

475
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 4: so this whole situation is really a chaos agent campaign,

476
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 4: this information campaign to specifically attack her. And recently, Harvard

477
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 4: in a study about that that very thing about and

478
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: it's not just specific to Kamala, but about how ATOS

479
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: has been used to divide the black community and push

480
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Speaker 4: right wring ideology and talking points into our community. But

481
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Speaker 4: it seems like it's coming from us. Thank you something

482
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 4: you put it in like great. So that's something that

483
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 4: has been weaponized against us that we have to be

484
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Speaker 4: more cognizant of. It's more an online thing, but you'll

485
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 4: notice that in real life then you know, it kind

486
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Speaker 4: of seeks to judge cognition. Last thing I said, I

487
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Speaker 4: do want to say to some small thing, I do

488
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Speaker 4: fallt Kamala Hares a little bit. Though I do fall

489
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Speaker 4: her a little bit because it did take her a

490
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Speaker 4: little bit of time to get her footing in terms

491
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Speaker 4: of the race questions.

492
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Speaker 5: You know.

493
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Speaker 4: On when she launched her campaign, they asked her, how

494
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Speaker 4: would you characterize yourself? And she said, as I will

495
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Speaker 4: characterize myself as American. When she said that, I said,

496
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Speaker 4: oh my god, why we say American? Papaah, it's black.

497
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 4: You can stay black with Indians whatever the fuck. But

498
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: I can't believe you just sat up here and stay American.

499
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 4: You know that black folks is not gonna like that.

500
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, you had Howard are you

501
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 4: talking about?

502
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Speaker 6: You?

503
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Speaker 4: American girl? So that was the first thing that I said.

504
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Speaker 4: I did a video. I was like, oh my god, Kama,

505
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 4: why did you do that? And then at the debate,

506
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: I mean that she had the town hall of CNN. Again,

507
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 4: of course she came up again another bad answer. I

508
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, if she you know. So,

509
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: she made it a little bit harder for herself by

510
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 4: not coming out strong. I'm black, I'm black, I'm Indian.

511
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: You could be both, but she needed to really really

512
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Speaker 4: come out with the strong. She got it together about

513
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks later, but by then it was

514
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: like that was something you need to get right the

515
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 4: first time, you.

516
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Speaker 3: Know, and social media really seized his own moments like that,

517
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: where because I know for you, you're probably thinking like, well,

518
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Speaker 3: now I got my work cut out for me because

519
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: of this, Because people take like those moments and they're like,

520
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,199
Speaker 3: see I told y'all, and then you gotta deal with

521
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: that shit forever. And I do think one of the

522
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: things of social media is that it's so divided already

523
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: and it's so spherical, like we have our people around us,

524
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: we all agree with mostly, and so what happens, I

525
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: think is in a situation like that candidate is not

526
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: thinking about Twitter, like your candidate is thinking about America,

527
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, they're like everybody that can vote,

528
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: and for us, I'm like, I'm mostly thinking about the

529
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: black and brown people I know that I talk to

530
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Speaker 3: every day.

531
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Speaker 2: So I'm like, this is a terrible answer.

532
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: And for them, whatever godence they got was probably like, no,

533
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: we want to like stress your you're American, okay, because

534
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: they're gonna try to demigogue you and say you're not

535
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: from this country and that da da da.

536
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Speaker 2: It's not we're bringing people together. It's not black. It's

537
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 2: not white, and it's like, no, that's not gonna.

538
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: Work because when you wrote that, when you roll that out,

539
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: all people are gonna hear is cabalin Asian from Tiger Woods.

540
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 2: It's not like they're not like you just got to

541
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: say what it is.

542
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 5: You know.

543
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: It's like when whenever a biracial person is like, I'm

544
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: not black biracially, like, I'm afraid to tell you it's

545
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: not a multiple choice answer, but there's only one correct

546
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: answer in America.

547
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: You get you are black by default, whether you want

548
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: to be or not. Unfortunately, and can.

549
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 4: I say I've met Kamla Harris. I love Kamla Harris.

550
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris is a black woman like Capitol B. She's black, Okay, Like,

551
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: she's very very very much centered in that she understands

552
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 4: that it's not fake, like and it's it's an energy

553
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 4: that she gives off like before she even opens up

554
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 4: her mouth, her mannerisms, everything, and so she is authentically black.

555
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: I mean even I've seen her in rooms before because

556
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 4: you know, I'm in DC, so you know, before she

557
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: ran for president, you would see her out and about.

558
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 4: But the one I actually met her, like we had

559
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 4: a conversation. I was like, I was taking aback immediately.

560
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: I'm like, she is even blacker than I even thought

561
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: she was, Like no mistaken that she is like a

562
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 4: down ass black woman, and so I hate that that

563
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: is one of the things that are that that that really,

564
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 4: you know, they try to they try to attack her

565
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 4: over because it's couldn't be further from the truth to

566
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: stay that she doesn't claim black or she's not really black.

567
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: If you ever met her, you would not have any

568
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: mistake about the fact that she is a down ass

569
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 4: black woman period.

570
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: Also running for presidents like the biggest job interview ever.

571
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 3: And you know, if you have a job as a

572
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: black person and you see another black person at the job,

573
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: if they see you in like the conference meeting, they

574
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 3: might get a different you than if you're in the

575
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: elevator by yourself and you're like, oh, what's up man?

576
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: You give them their head nod finally and it's like, oh, okay, cool,

577
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: we can we gotta actually kick it out, man, my nigga,

578
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 3: these white people are crazy, Like people had that conversation,

579
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: but it's like we are watching these I remember when

580
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: Obama was first running in two thousand and eight, and

581
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 3: it was like I don't know about this brother, blah

582
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: blah blah.

583
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: And then by by you you fast.

584
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: Forward to like twenty sixteen, this niggas playing basketball and

585
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: inviting rappers to the White House.

586
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: And shit, You're like, oh, interview you and got the job.

587
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: You are kind of a little bit different when it

588
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: comes to this. Another thing that I want to talk

589
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: to you about. What do you think? Like, First of all,

590
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: how are you been getting by in the pandemic?

591
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: Because I feel like that's the question we always have

592
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 3: to ask people, you know, right now because it's kind

593
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: of taking over everything. And I know Biden administration is

594
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: trying to do some doing better already, but but you know,

595
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: like do't doing better? How is the pandemic effected your

596
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: life personally?

597
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I can't complain. Let me be clear,

598
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: I'm blessed in how they favor. Somebody told me today

599
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: good luck because I was cussing them out, and I said,

600
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: I don't need luck. I'm blessed. Okay, So I'm blessed.

601
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: I'm highly favored. I cannot complain. I have it so

602
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: much better than like a lot of people do. But

603
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: I mean I'm like me and my husband. We're like

604
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: big time travelers, like we'll take a three day trip,

605
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, like we love to just get out and

606
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: so like and I'm like, a, okay, babe, I just

607
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: got his tickets to go to the basketball game in

608
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes. Let's go like like we're all I'm like,

609
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: I'm like a person's always out and so I'm like

610
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: having serious cabin fever. But i mean, other than that,

611
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: I can't, Like I said, I can't really complain. It

612
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: would be ridiculous for me to complain other than the

613
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: fact that it sucks right that we're all in the pandemic.

614
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: Right.

615
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: You said, you're in DC, do you miss brunch?

616
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: One day, I'm gonna get up there with GPS TPS

617
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 6: and then you got to do brunch because I've been here.

618
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 5: Everybody talk about that brunch since it is a date.

619
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: But you know, this is the thing I hate. I'm

620
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: just I'm gonna concern now because I don't think I

621
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: could look at a buffet the same way that I

622
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: used to, you know, like like, uh, George Brown's that's

623
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: my that's my ship. George Brown's founded Farmers and it's

624
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 4: a buffet. So now I'm like, oh lo, how are

625
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: we gonna do brunch now? Because I'm not doing this

626
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: buffa stuff. So I don't know. I might have to

627
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: find a new a new brunch, but I'm definitely down

628
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: for brunch. What we open back up?

629
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: I keep wondering what's gonna happen with the people that

630
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: are like anti mask, anti vaccine, anti night.

631
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: We're going out? Uh, Like what are you gonna what

632
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: are you planning to do?

633
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Because I'm like, listen, after I get vaccinated, I'm definitely

634
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: going out to eat again, like I want, Like there's

635
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: things I want to do and I want to go

636
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: back to a Hornets game. There's things I want to

637
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: do in my life that I'm gonna need to get

638
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: this vaccine.

639
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: For because I don't want to do them and die

640
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: to do.

641
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: Them, Like I don't want to do them bad enough

642
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 3: to die, but I do want to do them bad

643
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: enough to get the vaccine. So I do wonder what

644
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: the plan is because I'm like, are y'all done with

645
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: brunch forever?

646
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: Or you just gonna go out and die for brunch?

647
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: Because I feel like there's a middle ground here that's

648
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 6: being avoided. Mimosas ain't worth dying for and uh, yesterday, yesterday, mother, Oh.

649
00:30:54,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 7: My god, Mama dropped something off at the house and

650
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 7: I was so excited just to get in her facinity

651
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 7: because I didn't get close did I swung the door

652
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 7: open and didn't realize somebody was pulling in the parking

653
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 7: space me.

654
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: She almost got a car in her wreck. I don't know.

655
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if did the door hit the woman's car.

656
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 5: I don't remember. She it just frightened because like, oh,

657
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 5: something moving, and so then I stopped moving.

658
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I knew it was having it.

659
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: As I pulled it to the space at park, Karen

660
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: was like unbuckling her seatbelt like we was in the

661
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: down like like we had just landed off a trip

662
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: from the moon. And she was like, I got I

663
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: gotta kiss the earth ground. She was just like, oh, Like,

664
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Speaker 3: I was.

665
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: Like, Karen's She's gonna be right there. She's like we

666
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: just we see her car.

667
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: We can't do anything but wave anyway and talk and

668
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: talked from a lot and she was just like, oh,

669
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: I gotta get out. I gotta see her. Because Karen

670
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: is such an extrovert. But yeah, man, that's so I was.

671
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 5: I was like and when he said that's what happened,

672
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 5: I said's name?

673
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: I got damn Shine? Yeah, I just like, that's why

674
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 2: I need a vaccine?

675
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: Signed me up.

676
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: So what was your path? Like?

677
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: Have you always been this politically active and talking about

678
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: politics on your Twitter account? I know you went from

679
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: like two hundred followers of like eighty seven thousand on

680
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: Twitter in a very short period of time.

681
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: But before that, were.

682
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: You kind of talking about it or was it something

683
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: specific about like Kamala or.

684
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: A specific event that made you go.

685
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: Up be like, I'm gonna be a lot more vocal

686
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: because there's this vacuum here and I want to feel it.

687
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: Well, So I've been political, like, you know, my whole

688
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: li Like, I've always been into politics. I started Black

689
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: Women Views in twenty eighteen, and it just so happens

690
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: that my very first post was about Kamala, Like, oh,

691
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 4: well she runs, I'm with her, you know. But I

692
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: spent like twenty eighteen really talking about black candidates. I

693
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: saw at you happen half I like to I don't

694
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: do as much well doing Kamala stuff kind of crowded

695
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: out a lot of that I was doing otherwise because

696
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: I like to do like TV show recaps like I

697
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: Love Black Lightning and Quentin Sugar and Gray Leaves and

698
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: all that stuff. So I was doing like half like

699
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: entertainment stuff and then the other half was politics. So

700
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: it was like twenty eighteen election. You know, you had

701
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 4: Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillham and you know, all everybody black.

702
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: That's what I was rooting for. So that's kind of

703
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 4: what I what I was already doing. But I was

704
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: doing that all on Instagram, and so it wasn't until

705
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: really seeing that I was arguing with little assholes on

706
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: Instagram all the time about Kamala's records that I was

707
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: all and this is not efficient, Okay. So I was like, well,

708
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: let me go to Twitter and then I could just

709
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 4: put stuff out there and then I can reach more

710
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: people versus arguing with somebody in like the shade room

711
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 4: comments like so that, because that was not gonna be

712
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 4: worth my time. So that's what really led me to

713
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: Twitter was my advocacy for Kamala, and you know, my

714
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: my my numbers grew because it wasn't really anybody else

715
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: out there that I was really doing it and going

716
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: as hard as I was going about it, and so

717
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: people kind of wanted to find a home where they

718
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: could find receipts and where they can find somebody who's

719
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 4: gonna cut somebody out and make them feel a little

720
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: bit more badass about being in a Kamala supporter. And

721
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 4: you know, actually, though most of my followers now I'm

722
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: at eighty six thousand, a fast majority of them came

723
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 4: after Kamala dropped out. Go figure, right, So she drops

724
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: out and then people are like, well, I want to

725
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 4: learn a little bit more about this Kamala person.

726
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: I think these were lies. Oh you know what, I

727
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: just saw a thread that said these were lines.

728
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna delete these Mala tweets real quick and hoping

729
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: her mentions. You know what's interesting too about that is

730
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: you went from ig to Twitter. I know you also

731
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: have YouTube as like a black woman who's out there

732
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 3: showing your face being vocal very much advocating for black

733
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: women specifically.

734
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: What has that been like?

735
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: Because I know, you know there's different that was a harassment.

736
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: You know, you got your government out there, Like, how's

737
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: that experience been?

738
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: You know, I get a lot of hate and I

739
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck, like at all.

740
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: I'm just like.

741
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 4: Whatever, Like I get you know what it is, because

742
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm just like, I haven't built like a quote unquote

743
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 4: brand off of being like this docile like, oh well

744
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: this is my this is my image of like I'm

745
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 4: an intellectual and I'm like, Noah, I'll cut your ass now.

746
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 4: I don't matter, you know what I'm saying. So I

747
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 4: don't hold back, So people don't hold back when it

748
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 4: comes to me, and I come back with ten times

749
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: more fire and fury for the ass. So for me,

750
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: it's not that bad, you know, because I'm just kind

751
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 4: of used to it, and you know, I'm just like

752
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: whatever I'm doing, what I'm gonna do, and so it

753
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: does not matter to me how you feel about it.

754
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: That was the whole point of creating the page to

755
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 4: begin with, was like we don't have to be one

756
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: way or another. We don't have to just be like,

757
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: I'm smart, so I don't curse. Oh I'm political, so

758
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: I don't watch love and hip hop Like, no, we

759
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: could do whatever hell is going to do at any time.

760
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: So I think that the way that I that I've

761
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 4: gone about things has kind of given me the freedom

762
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: to not lose my shit. That by the fact that

763
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: there are people who don't like me, people who call

764
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 4: me all kind of names, but nobody can come at

765
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: me harder than I come at them. It has never happened.

766
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: Like every single person that's ever come at me and

767
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: I go right away to one hundred with them and

768
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 4: then they go home. Device the older means, y'all can't

769
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 4: handle that. So that's why I just I just don't even.

770
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 4: I don't even. I don't even take it too much

771
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: to heart, but it is. It does suck, though, Like

772
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 4: I mean, the eight those people, all that was on

773
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: my head tough, and I made a video and I

774
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: cussed them out and I kind of drew them all

775
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 4: out and blocked them, but they again, they couldn't handle it.

776
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 4: The burning people, all these people, somebody made a video.

777
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 4: This is the weirdest thing to me, though, was somebody

778
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: made a video when the video was like move Latta

779
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: attacks Jared Kushner, and I was like, Okay, first of all,

780
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with being viracial. I'm not biracial. I

781
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: don't know why I have to be mulato, Like what

782
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 4: the fuck where'd that coming from? Like people literally just

783
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 4: pull stuff out of their asshole just to try to

784
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 4: discredit you and stuff like that, and I'm like, I'm

785
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: a whole ass, you know, like I just I thought

786
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 4: it was ridiculous. But that's the kind of stuff that happens.

787
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: People talk about my looks and talk about how I how,

788
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 4: you know, how I come at people, and I just

789
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: I just come back. I punch harder. So now if

790
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: it's in person, I don't know, I might have to

791
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: carry got some mice. A lot of the tat mails

792
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: were coming in during the pandemic, but I'm listening im.

793
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 4: I would promise you I keep the same energy in person.

794
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, I'm even worse in person because it's

795
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. I won't stay online just because

796
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 4: you know, it's like, okay, if I start going to

797
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: certain things that I'm offending people that are just not

798
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: even a part of our argument. But in person, it's

799
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: really like all bad.

800
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: So it's good.

801
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it sucks to be a black woman who

802
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: has a strong opinion on the internet, but it doesn't,

803
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: it doesn't. It hasn't aout me that much. Now. My

804
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: mom she's like, I hate looking at your comments. I

805
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 4: hate looking at your comments.

806
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: But I'm like, yeah, it's interesting because I had run

807
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 3: ins with the Bernie people. I made this joke saying

808
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: because back when they were like Bernie marsh with King

809
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen, I was like, y'all act like Bernie

810
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: Blacker than everybody else, and so I was like hashtag

811
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: Bernie so black and.

812
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: It was all these jokes, but them motherfuckers took.

813
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: It so serious and like I ended up getting interviewed

814
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: in like major publications and stuff, and every interview was

815
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 3: just me being like, so.

816
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm a comedian, right and I was making a job.

817
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: I thought it would be funny.

818
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny. They'd be like black Lives activists

819
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 5: and Roger.

820
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm not an activist. I'm not an activist. I'm a podcaster.

821
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 3: I make jokes for a living.

822
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: And it was hilarious.

823
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 3: At one point, the Bernie campaign had reached out to

824
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: I can't remember his name now, something Russian something Russian anyway,

825
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: but it's like a black dude and got rushing in

826
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: his Twitter name but him and he yeah, so he

827
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: had emailed me to be like, listen, the Bernie campaign

828
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: has his reddit and they would like you to come

829
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: in and maybe talk with us.

830
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: We you know, to moderate it and we could like

831
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: try to help them with black outreach. I was like,

832
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all understand what I'm saying.

833
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 5: It was a joke.

834
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Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck about this dude in any way,

835
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: Like I don't care if he wins, I don't care

836
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: if he loses. It's just I don't care about his

837
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: black It was funny. Was it not funny to everyone?

838
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: Did we not laugh and say, Bernie so Black he

839
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: know how to play spades? Or you know, Bernie so

840
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 3: Black he you know, he memorized every episode the good times,

841
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: Like we can't just have that kind of humor instead

842
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: of being like serious and and I remember like his

843
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 3: fans writing long ass emails targeting me on Twitter my

844
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 3: government name. By the end, I was supposedly working with

845
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: George Soros, which is I don't.

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00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 5: Even know what it is, like some of them checks

847
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 5: the Brothers. I was like, yes, yeah, it was just

848
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 5: so it was.

849
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Just so weird.

850
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: And so anytime we have someone on where I'm like, oh,

851
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: I've seen you go viral, I know there's another side

852
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: to it where that people don't really see, because you know,

853
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: most people don't go check other people's mansions. They haven't

854
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: seen your emails. So yeah, I always do wonder like

855
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: how how do people navigate that? Because I'm not gonna lie.

856
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: I was, I punked out. I was just like, y'all

857
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I'm not.

858
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: People are bad and it's but it's funny though, because

859
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 4: now K hive right is like the new bullies in

860
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: town right, because you know, you know that energy. It's like, hey,

861
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: you know, and nobody scared of you. The one thing

862
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: that was the most unnerving to me though one time

863
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 4: was I had an entire bot army that came after

864
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: me before. It was like literally like I was like,

865
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 4: I was like just on holiday in New Orleans and

866
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: I look at my mentions and I was in like

867
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: every three seconds there's like a shut up bitch coming

868
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: through from these all these accounts and it's like the

869
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: same tweet, and I was like, what in the hell

870
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: is going on? Like literally, it was like hundreds, if

871
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: not thousands of accounts that were created and on the

872
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 4: on that day just to tell me shut up bitch,

873
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: like and I was just like, whoa, what is happening

874
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: right now? I mean it was handled like, you know,

875
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: I got my followers. I was like, please report these

876
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 4: accounts and I you know, did a search or whatever,

877
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 4: and you know, it was something that really bothered a

878
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 4: lot of people. But and I was just like, what

879
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 4: the fuck is happening here? So yeah, there, it can

880
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: get really it can get really crazy.

881
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 5: But I mean I moved on.

882
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: I was in New Orleans. Shit, I was like, okay, well,

883
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: let me go ahead and handle this right quick. And

884
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 4: then I'm going on about my business and I'm having

885
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: my vidas and I'm gonna have my you know, my hurricanes.

886
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 5: And and move on.

887
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: But people are people are like legit crazy on these

888
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: on these street.

889
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 5: They really are.

890
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 6: And it was one of those things where Roger had

891
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 6: to calm me down because my thing, if I love

892
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 6: you and you start fucking with the people I love,

893
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 6: I become very dogmatic, like I am not the one

894
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 6: to fuck with.

895
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 5: And so, you know, for me, I was hot. I

896
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 5: was very hot. I was very upset, and I expressed

897
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 5: that very very clearly to Roger, like the fuck is this?

898
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 5: The fuck is going on?

899
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 6: This is affecting you, this is affecting his household, and

900
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: so boy, very very very I would say it had

901
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 6: to be within the past few years.

902
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: I begin to calm my anger down for Bernie because

903
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, fuck of him, fuck of them,

904
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 5: fucking everybody.

905
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,479
Speaker 6: If you associate with me, you can kiss my whole

906
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 6: black ass, like like that's to the level that I

907
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 6: was because I felt like it was a personal attack.

908
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 6: But what I had to realize is that the people

909
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 6: are surround Bernie. He can't control them, and.

910
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 5: That's the thing. It started with him, but then the

911
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 5: monster becomes so big, it becomes out of your control.

912
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 5: And so I had to get to the point where

913
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 5: I had to learn it.

914
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 6: I didn't know that at first, you know, because all

915
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 6: this stuff on social media is new, like like like

916
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 6: that whole concept of a person can start a calls

917
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 6: and then the people that support the calls could become

918
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: bigger than the person that they like.

919
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 5: That concept is new, and so for me it was

920
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: brand new. But for a long time I was like, oh,

921
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: a fucking him, he will never get my boat. I

922
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 5: don't want to hear his name, you know. Anytime his

923
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 5: name was bought up, Oh I was on it.

924
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 6: It was like a fire lit up underneath me because

925
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 6: I felt like it was a personal little attack and

926
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 6: I felt like Brendan didn't go correct. These people and

927
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 6: tell these people to come down before it got to

928
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 6: the point where it became out of control.

929
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, even now Rihanna Joy Gray is still be going

930
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: off and I mean it's been out of control, Like

931
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: that was one of.

932
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: His campaign people, and yeah, he can't control the.

933
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: Messages that come out of her mouth, which tells you

934
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: a lot about him as a candidate and about.

935
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: His fill and how what they really were in it for.

936
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 5: Yeah. So over the years, like I said, I have

937
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 5: calmed down.

938
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 6: I've like, like, like I have really calmed down a lot,

939
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 6: because people who have listened to me over the years

940
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 6: know that the way I feel about branding now is

941
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 6: nothing how I feel back then.

942
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you. I will say though, Listen,

943
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 4: I'm a person that ruffled a lot of feathers for Kamala,

944
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: and so there are a lot of people that I

945
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: pissed off. There are a lot of people that told me, like,

946
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm never both for Kamla because of you personally. Okay,

947
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: you know, so I get it, like I get that

948
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 4: the candidates don't control and actually I've said, I don't

949
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 4: work for Kamala, I don't answer to Kamala. I don't

950
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: I don't exchange, you know, strategy with Kamala, you know,

951
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: and I and people say you should work for I

952
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: don't want to work for her because I want to

953
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: say whatever it is that I want to say. But

954
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 4: there is a difference between somebody like me who goes

955
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 4: hard for Kamala but I don't. I'm I don't. I

956
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 4: don't take money from her. I don't have any formal

957
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 4: association with her in terms of the political stuff. When

958
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 4: I talk to Kamala, I don't. It's not about oh,

959
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 4: you know, make sure you tweet this to do It's like,

960
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: hey er, how you doing? Like that's how that's our conversations.

961
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: And people tell me, oh, tell her this, I'm like,

962
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 4: I'm not wasting my time telling Comma anything about political shit.

963
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk to her like she's my auntie. Okay,

964
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: that's that's our conversations. But in terms of the politics,

965
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: what I do is what I do. You know what

966
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But with Ernie, he hired these chaos agents.

967
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: He hired these assholes, and they did the stuff like

968
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: doxing people and siking people on other people. So I know,

969
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 4: for me, as my platform has now grown, when I like,

970
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 4: sometimes I'll call people out, but I will block out

971
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: their handle, you know, not because I'm I'm just that nice,

972
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: but because it's like, the last thing you're gonna get

973
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: to say is that I doosed you, you know, So

974
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: I'll call you out for your shit, but I'm not

975
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: going to necessarily, you know, have your handle in that tweet,

976
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: that screenshot, and I'll just use it as an example,

977
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: you know. But for the most part and my advocacy,

978
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: I say what I say on my page and that's it.

979
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: I don't really go fuck with people too much, you know,

980
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: unless you have a high profile and you're you're spewing

981
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 4: stuff that's unnecessary, then I'll go to that. But if

982
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 4: you're just a random person on the Internet that got

983
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 4: something to say, okay, by whatever.

984
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: It's also weird because I don't know when the line

985
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 3: changes from I get to have my opinion or we're having.

986
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: A fight too.

987
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: Nigga, you harassing me. Look at how many follows you got.

988
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you called me a whole bitch. I

989
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: didn't know hidden reply, what's gonna be a problem. I

990
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: didn't sign up to Twitter to let you motherfuck.

991
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: Me like I didn't.

992
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: They poke at you, and then they want to cry

993
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: bully because you have more followers.

994
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: That's what I try.

995
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 4: I try to eliminate that, you know, but I'll cush

996
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 4: you out to your face and then I'll spreadshot it

997
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 4: and blackout all your ship and then now you know,

998
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 4: if I want to make an example out of you.

999
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 4: But it is annoying that people start shit. Yeah want

1000
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: to be like, oh, like, let me tell you something.

1001
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 4: Whoever came at me, I was like, it is what

1002
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: it is, Lets go. It didn't matter how many followers

1003
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 4: they had, right, it didn't matter how many followers I had.

1004
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 4: I never complained about, oh, you have this big platform

1005
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 4: you're coming out to go to on meat because it

1006
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: does not matter. I'll rumble with anybody. So I don't

1007
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: relate to that punk ass energy of like I'm starting

1008
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 4: something but then I'm the victim.

1009
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: Come on, man, Like I came from a neighborhood where

1010
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: we fought, like that's what happened, Like Okay, he said this,

1011
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 3: you said this, and then you get off the bus

1012
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: and sometimes you got to handle it.

1013
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 6: I was.

1014
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: It was never like I said that.

1015
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: But you know, you play football and you have a

1016
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 3: lot of ways It's like, nigga, you knew that before

1017
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: you were talking a shit that's not.

1018
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 2: Okay, But yeah, I don't. I hate that shit.

1019
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: What were you, like, where were you at in like

1020
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen when Hillary was running, Bernie was running, Trump

1021
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: was running, Like, were like were you active then? Were

1022
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: you following it all? Did you have any dog in

1023
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 3: the fight?

1024
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: So to this is gonna be very shocking people, But like,

1025
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: I kind of liked a little bit of what Bernie

1026
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 4: was talking about in twenty sixteen. But you know what

1027
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: I didn't like about him? Whenever they asked him anything

1028
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 4: about race, he started going into the poor and the criminal,

1029
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, what the hell everybody? And it's nothing.

1030
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be elitist to be saying this,

1031
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 4: but what I'm saying is, why do you have to

1032
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: automatically associate poor and criminal? Were black? They asked you

1033
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 4: about black people. They didn't ask you about criminal justice

1034
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: or ask you about you know, minimum wage, So I

1035
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 4: didn't That was what turned me on to him, But

1036
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I became more of a Hillary supporter.

1037
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 4: I didn't have like a black woman views at the time.

1038
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 4: It was just my personal page. But was very interesting

1039
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 4: to me. I didn't notice like that disinformation campaign started.

1040
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: I noticed, like the black gossip blogs, like you know,

1041
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 4: some of the smaller ones, like you know, don't even

1042
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 4: know they're around anymore, tea tenders and things like that,

1043
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 4: they were posting stuff about Haiti and all kinds of stuff,

1044
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, and people are talking about

1045
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 4: Margaret Sanger. And so I saw the beginning of what

1046
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 4: is now even huger of how they infiltrate our communities

1047
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 4: with these narratives and this fake news and all that stuff,

1048
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: and it really is damaging. And I think that that

1049
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: really did have a damaging impact on Hillary's campaign, was

1050
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 4: that was the first real disinformation election that we saw

1051
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: on social media, right.

1052
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because one of the things I think

1053
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: what the reason made me ask you that is because

1054
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen, one of the differences was with Hillary,

1055
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 3: a lot of her supporters turned inward and they would

1056
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 3: have like I remember they had Pantsuit's Nation or something

1057
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: that was like an insular Facebook group of secret white

1058
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 3: women's supporters and shit, and it's like it's like there's

1059
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: no way to support somebody, like if you're gonna support

1060
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: you actually have to be outward with it, because that's

1061
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: only what it changed people's minds.

1062
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: If we all just come together and quietly go, Kamala

1063
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 2: Harris pretty cool. I don't know what these needs come about.

1064
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: Run. It's like we never we never gonna You're never

1065
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: gonna change the way people feel about her. And I

1066
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: think that was a that was a huge thing, a

1067
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: big difference, And I just had wondered if you know,

1068
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: if if those had any effect on each other.

1069
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 6: Oh, I was gonna bring up when you was talking

1070
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 6: about the misinformation. A lot of people failed to realize this.

1071
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 6: This election right here was the first election, like the

1072
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 6: first presidential election after the last one, with all a

1073
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: lot of that misinformation and disinformation was stopped.

1074
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 5: You didn't have to ask on Facebook. I told people this.

1075
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 5: You didn't have to add on Facebook.

1076
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 6: You didn't have to ask on Twitter, you didn't have

1077
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 6: to ask on Instagram, you didn't have to ask on YouTube.

1078
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: They were kicking the counts off, they were shutting ship

1079
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Black Planning and whatever uh other accounts you have.

1080
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 6: They stopped that, and so for a lot of people,

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Speaker 6: they voted and they would and manipulated because what I

1082
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 6: realized and me and Wright just talked about this, a

1083
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 6: lot of black people will never admit that they will

1084
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 6: manipulated by a lot of these Russian bots. They fail

1085
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 6: hook line and sinker by a lot of these bots

1086
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 6: that were not black, because there were a lot of

1087
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 6: bots that were not black people that had black avatars

1088
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 6: that fooled a lot of black people to.

1089
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 5: Following and retweeting and reposting the ship like it was

1090
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 5: facts the.

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00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: Right, y'all dogs, don't vote for Hillary Clinton to get

1092
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 3: up in them.

1093
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: Cheeks or whatever you like.

1094
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: Nobody was like, nobody talks like this like that, like

1095
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 5: we don't even say that. This phrase makes no sense.

1096
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 6: And when you go, oh, you know black, this made

1097
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 6: up Black Lives Matter account, I'm just using that for example,

1098
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 6: has more than.

1099
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 5: The real actual account itself, like the real one with

1100
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 5: the tech mark and verified.

1101
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 6: And so once you eliminate that stuff, Joe Biden wins,

1102
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 6: like not trying to be funny.

1103
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 5: So a lot of this impacted the last.

1104
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 6: Election more than people were willing to say, and so

1105
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 6: many people went out there with the don't.

1106
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 5: Vote and all this other shit.

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00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: Well it helped because they weren't a lot of those

1108
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 3: accounts weren't promoting to vote for Trump.

1109
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: Which I think is a dead giveaway what they were

1110
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 2: doing with provoting.

1111
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 3: Black people to not vote and to not care, and

1112
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: they're telling their votes don't count, which is another Republican tactic,

1113
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 3: another disinformation tactic or Russian tactic, all that stuff, but

1114
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 3: it's coming from black people.

1115
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: So man, these people were not bied. So many these

1116
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 2: people were well well known prominent black hotels or black

1117
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: even some black what'd you call them?

1118
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 6: Like?

1119
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, even some of them was on some like two

1120
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: sides of the same coin. I'm not vote, I'm not

1121
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: fucking with a dog. And it's like, but so if

1122
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: we don't show up and vote, we know what's gonna happen,

1123
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: and you know, then they would deflect the life. It's

1124
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: not even that many of us. Well, you can't say

1125
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: black vote is a power and also not important. So

1126
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 3: either it's important and we should utilize it in the

1127
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 3: best way for our community, or it's not important and

1128
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: we should just walk away.

1129
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: But you can't have it both ways.

1130
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: Where you like, if you want me to vote for you,

1131
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: you need to release a platinum plan or you ain't

1132
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 3: gonna get my vote, and then when when it's like,

1133
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: well that's not having it, well, you know what, it's

1134
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: not that many of us don't blame us if we lose,

1135
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: like well, at the same time, like we can't have

1136
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: it both ways.

1137
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 2: I think it is important that we vote.

1138
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: It's never we never have the numbers by ourselves to

1139
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: win or lose an election, but we damn sure got

1140
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: the numbers to tip this shit, and I think it

1141
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: is important that we galvanize that.

1142
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 4: But I do have to disagree a little bit with you, though, Karen,

1143
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 4: because this was still very much a disinformation misinformation election.

1144
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 4: I think that there was just more awareness of it,

1145
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 4: like you know, leading up till the last couple of

1146
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: weeks that's where you started seeing a lot more exposed

1147
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 4: days on it. But that was like October of twenty twenty.

1148
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 4: Like I did a thread in July twenty and nineteen

1149
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 4: night where I was like black social media has been infiltrated,

1150
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: you know, And it was like there was this one

1151
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 4: organization byp of Chicago that did this protest against Kamala Harris,

1152
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 4: and I looked at the signs they had and I

1153
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 4: was like, everything on that sign that y'all mad about

1154
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 4: is a lie. So y'all out here mad about some

1155
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: shit that ain't even nothing to be mad about. So

1156
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: disinformation and misinformation deadly like completely thank Kamala Harris's president

1157
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: you know, presidential campaign. It had a big impact. I

1158
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: think in Florida. We saw that the that the turnout

1159
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 4: was down in Florida, the turnout was you know so,

1160
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: and that was where they were highly targeted in terms

1161
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 4: of the crime view and other things. And so there

1162
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: was still a lot of micro targeting that was going on.

1163
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 4: But I do agree with you that there was a

1164
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 4: lot more pressure on the social media companies to put

1165
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 4: a stop to the more the paid stuff. But there's

1166
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: still very much an algorithm problem. There's still very much

1167
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: a bot problem that we still have to address because

1168
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: I still see it where and there's a mean problem.

1169
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 4: So that's another thing that we have to get away from.

1170
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: We have to get away from this mean formation culture

1171
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 4: where people look at something that's catchy, it got the graphics,

1172
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 4: and shit be all wrong, but it's easy to disseminate.

1173
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 4: That's what's being disseminated in these WhatsApp groups and then

1174
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: these group chats and all kinds of stuff on Facebook,

1175
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: and so we still have a long ways to go.

1176
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: I think there's more of an awareness over it but

1177
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: than when people were thinking I was just some conspiratorial

1178
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 4: psycho making it for Kabla. But we still have a

1179
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: lot of challenges when it comes to that because it's

1180
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: just it's easier to disseminate bullshit, and I say, people

1181
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 4: will believe a sensational lie over the simple truth. And

1182
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 4: that's a problem that you can't fix by Facebook or

1183
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: YouTube banning certain and things. That's a cultural issue that

1184
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: we have that is that that we're seeing it show

1185
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: up when it comes to these vaccines. We're seeing to

1186
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: show up when it comes to COVID. You know, people

1187
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: are saying, I don't want to take the vaccine because

1188
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: there's a micro trip.

1189
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: In there, right.

1190
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 4: You know, you people can have difference of opinions, but

1191
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 4: it's the way that you can really you know, push

1192
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 4: this stuff. QAnon. You know you have black people. A

1193
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 4: lot of people say it's white people. It's black people

1194
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 4: who were talking about Oh, Joe Biden is the pedophile

1195
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: and they and the Democrats are running human trafficking rings.

1196
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 4: And Trump is trying to say it was a lot

1197
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 4: of black people who were repeating that ship.

1198
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 6: You know.

1199
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: So we still have a lot of issues that we

1200
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 4: have to tackle, and I really hope that we really

1201
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 4: keep our foot on the gas when it comes to that,

1202
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: because our community is the one who can afford it

1203
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 4: the least. You know, we cannot afford to be so

1204
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 4: susceptible to this, to this entire and and every aspect

1205
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: that it's just disinformation campaigns that are.

1206
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 2: Put out there.

1207
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and it's like imperative to state it that

1208
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: way because I think what happens is, uh, people go, well,

1209
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: we have had racial conspiracies happen to us in real life,

1210
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: and it's like we have we have we have skepticism

1211
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: that is informed by reality.

1212
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: This is not to say that.

1213
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 3: There's that that people shouldn't be cynical or all that shit,

1214
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 3: but there's a certain level where it's like paranoia and

1215
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: it's like paranoia is a lot less helpful than skepticism.

1216
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 3: Like skepticism is are you gonna pay me back this

1217
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: twenty dollars on letting you borrow? And if paranoia is

1218
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: like you're.

1219
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: Gonna kill me?

1220
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 5: Like what like we need like we need to have like.

1221
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: A healthy sense and I think I'm glad to see

1222
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: like people turning around and using themselves examples and being

1223
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 3: like this is why I got the shots our doctor

1224
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: who roes like I'm appreciative of that. But at the

1225
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 3: same time, like I don't like when people empower the

1226
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 3: shit of like, well, let's just be paranoid, like, no,

1227
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 3: we need this, it's just killing The virus is killing

1228
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: us a lot more than it's killing other people. And

1229
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: this like we don't And you see like Instagram from

1230
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: Atlanta and everybody's at the club or some shit, and

1231
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 3: you're like, this can't continue.

1232
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: In a world with no vaccine.

1233
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna need y'all to either get the vaccine

1234
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 3: or stay your as a whole, or perfectly stay you

1235
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: as a whole till you get the vaccine. But but

1236
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: just like, we have to find some type of way

1237
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: of going forward. And another thing you said, because I'm

1238
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 3: with you on this, I think there was a lot

1239
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: of disinformation this year as well. Some companies finally started

1240
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: to do the right thing very late in the cycle,

1241
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 3: most of them after Biden had won the primary, which

1242
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: is so late in the cycle to start doing this shit.

1243
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: But you know, Twitter starts putting these notes on Trump's

1244
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: tweets like this nigga line Facebook, you know, Facebook's changing, Yeah, yeah,

1245
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 3: disputed thing. And then you know, some media start finally

1246
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: uses the word lie uh for the first time in

1247
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: four fucking years. So like, they did stuff, but it

1248
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 3: was so late, and it's so the cat is out

1249
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: of the bag because to me, the insurrection only happens because, right, y'all,

1250
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: the misinformation and all this shit already exists. That these

1251
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 3: people have already found community and they're up there fucking

1252
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: larking at the Capitol because of that, and.

1253
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 6: They don't want to be held accountable. That's the biggest

1254
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 6: reason why a lot of these social media platforms started

1255
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 6: doing this. They didn't want to be held the count,

1256
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 6: but didn't want to be sued. The biggest reason why

1257
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 6: I personally don't think Paula will ever come back and know,

1258
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 6: nobody will put you on this server.

1259
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 5: And yes, they got the right to reject you because

1260
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 5: they don't.

1261
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 6: Want to be sued, right, they don't want to be sued,

1262
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 6: Like like y'all out here spearing stuff and going up

1263
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 6: and trying to shoot up the Capitol.

1264
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: They don't want you on.

1265
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 6: Their platform for people going, well, y'all had them on

1266
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 6: your platform, and you had them on I could get

1267
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 6: it on my app and you allow these people to

1268
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 6: conjugate here. And it's one of those things. But Paul,

1269
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna come back. But people have to realize

1270
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 6: if you don't pass laws, if you don't correct shit,

1271
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 6: if you don't old people accountable, it's gonna be another

1272
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 6: thing called PAULA plus two. I don't know whatever, but

1273
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 6: it'll be somebody's gonna pop back up and nobody's gonna

1274
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 6: say shit until something else happens again.

1275
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: Now, Recie, what do you think about the insurrection and

1276
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: everything that took place a couple of weeks ago?

1277
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, why are people lost the mind? Like

1278
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 4: they was really feeling big and bold. I was like, okay,

1279
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: I mean I know that was gonna be crazy, but

1280
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 4: I mean, have you guys been to the Capitol before?

1281
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: I don't think we've been to the Capitol building. We've been.

1282
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: We've been toc though.

1283
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 4: I mean I've I've been to the Capitol, and so

1284
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 4: to watch what happened is unfathomable to me, Like, how

1285
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: is this happening? Because it does not seem like the

1286
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 4: kind of place that you've been there that people could

1287
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 4: just walk their ass right up to and overrun. That's

1288
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 4: why I was like, Okay, this is an inside job.

1289
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 4: They have help somewhere with somebody, because this is just

1290
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: impossible to be able to pull something like this off

1291
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,479
Speaker 4: on such a major day, one of the most major

1292
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 4: days that we have every four years. And so that

1293
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 4: was my thing, like, Okay, who's in on this, because

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Speaker 4: that's not something you're not just letting people walk up in.

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Speaker 5: There like that.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I just I think that it is

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01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 4: in theory, right, I mean, we have these inflection points, right,

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01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 4: George Floyd, Abaud Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, that was an inflection point,

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Speaker 4: but then we kind of get off of that inflection

1300
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 4: and kind of revert a little bit more back. And

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01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 4: I'm afraid that that's already starting to happen a little bit.

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01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm afraid a little bit of the stuff is being

1303
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, pushed under the rug. And one

1304
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 4: of the things that I said was immediately I was like,

1305
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 4: ignore the pictures of people like hanging off of shit,

1306
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 4: and like, yeah, we're just white people having fun in

1307
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 4: the capitol. Like they were doing some damage up in there,

1308
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: and we got to find out what they were in

1309
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: there and what they were really doing. Right, and PET

1310
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 4: pay attention to that. Everybody needs to be held accountable.

1311
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: But let's not look at this as some benign white

1312
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 4: joy ride one last raw under Trump watch, Like, no,

1313
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: those people need to be brought to justice, and you know,

1314
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. But it does seem like we've

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01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 4: at least moved a little bit past that. Now the

1316
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: white folks know the next time I won't get shot. Yeah,

1317
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: they're trying to ship again, and so now it's not

1318
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 4: as attractive to do that anymore. But it's always going

1319
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: to be something. All you need is one crazy ass person,

1320
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 4: you know, Timothy McVeagh. You have the Oklahoma bomber for Christmas.

1321
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 4: People already forgot about that. Yeah, you know, so you know,

1322
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 4: I don't put them past these people to be crazy again.

1323
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: It's just it won't come in that same, you know, manner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was interesting too, because to me, I was

1325
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: laughing at some horrible they were dressed and some of

1326
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: the ways they do. But but I even said, I

1327
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 3: remember we did the episode after that.

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Speaker 2: I think I called it at Kuchikoo and I was like,

1329
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 2: I was like, even with that, though, I don't want any.

1330
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: Politicians treating it like I want anyone with a role,

1331
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 3: a professional role, should be treating this as the most

1332
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: traitor is dangerous thing possible, because that's the only way

1333
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: to stop another one is to just treat this one seriously.

1334
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 2: I think if you go, well, they try to do it.

1335
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 3: But some of them are up there just fucking like

1336
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: taking selfies on Instagram. Yeah, lock they ass up too,

1337
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 3: Like if you lock them all up, then we don't

1338
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: have to worry about part two. But I feel like

1339
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 3: if you you know, I'm already seeing it. And now

1340
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 3: this is a thing where media where I'm not ever

1341
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: really sure what's true, because I think sometimes media floats

1342
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: shit to make us react, you know, Like like, for

1343
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 3: a good example, when Biden was considering cabinet picks and

1344
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: they were like he might pick some Republicans, You're like, nigga,

1345
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: you know, he not gonna pick no motherfucking Republicans.

1346
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: They not gonna let him, you know what I mean,

1347
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: Like they understand that that would everyone.

1348
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: Up there is like we know that that would just

1349
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 3: hinder us because Republicans have been obstructionists, so unless everyone

1350
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 3: on his cabinet fucking lost their minds the second you won.

1351
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen, but it does get a reaction, right,

1352
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: everyone flips out last year in like August, Hillary Clinton

1353
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 3: might join the primary. It's like, that's not gonna happen,

1354
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: but it gives everyone a second.

1355
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: To be like fucking Clinton, man, she always you know.

1356
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: So I do worry that. I do wonder.

1357
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: I mean if some of this shit about like they

1358
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: don't want to prosecute everybody, is them trying to make

1359
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 3: us be like, you know, man, fuck that or I

1360
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 3: or if that's a legit consideration, because I like to

1361
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: hear something from the administration confirm that level of thinking,

1362
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: or someone from uh, you know, the Justice Department confirmed

1363
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 3: that before I go off on a tangent about you know,

1364
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 3: because we can all do the like banging our chests

1365
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 3: and being like I would like their children up like

1366
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: of course we were all like, but I want to

1367
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: hear it from somebody before I get upset.

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01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 6: I think for me, I agree with you when you

1369
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 6: said people need to take it seriously, because the thing

1370
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 6: is most of the Democrats, well I actually all the

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 6: Democrats are taking it serious. Look, they came up here

1372
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 6: for us, right, and honestly they was gonna get the

1373
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 6: Republicans too. But they was like, oh we survived because

1374
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 6: that was comingup for that was like oh if you

1375
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 6: in this bitch something. Now some of them would have

1376
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 6: been like white power flag, you know, okay, right right,

1377
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 6: but it's your boy. You know.

1378
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 5: Some of the would have had a wink or nine right.

1379
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: But you know, I was thinking, like Tim Scott must

1380
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: have a lot of confidence because I'm like, you sure

1381
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: they know us from right because they around to me

1382
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: like get him it's Corey Baker. Oh no.

1383
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 5: No, because they came up there a Trump or bus.

1384
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 6: So if you was in there, you was anti Trump

1385
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 6: and so I don't know what about that people missed,

1386
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 6: you know, and some of them had to fight them off,

1387
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 6: and was still was like I want to protest this.

1388
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 6: She was like nigga, do you know, like like maybe

1389
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 6: I'm the one that's like, hey, if you come up

1390
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 6: to my house to try to kill me, oh, it

1391
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 6: is a fuck you forever. And yes, I'm pressing all

1392
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 6: the charges and yes we're gonna investigate.

1393
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 2: You gonna let them go, soft dog. It's not like

1394
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: they was all on Twitter like they better not do this.

1395
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: I was like, Nancy Pelosi, not gonna let them.

1396
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 5: They came to kill her.

1397
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: This is the one time you don't even see AOC

1398
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 3: talking shit because they came to kill her too. Like everybody,

1399
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 3: just like nigga, all the people that y'all like on

1400
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 3: Twitter that be talking that shit, whether you like them

1401
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 3: talking about each other or not, they were on the

1402
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 3: list of people to get killed.

1403
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: So no panic buttons removed from her office.

1404
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 3: Exactly Like, I guarantee you they're taking it a bit

1405
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: more serious than you are at home safe not all

1406
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: the lists.

1407
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: They're somewhere being like, how do we him these motherfuckers up?

1408
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: So I do.

1409
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,439
Speaker 3: I do hate that the media, though especially white media,

1410
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: seems to have this like tenor of like reconciliation ran

1411
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: very loaded questions that are like wouldn't it be divisive

1412
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: to lock up these insurrectionist and you just like, why

1413
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 3: are you even asking that question?

1414
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: Like that's so that's so loaded.

1415
01:06:58,680 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 6: And so.

1416
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: You I watched you on TV Live when you saw

1417
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: it happen.

1418
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 3: You were fucking white. You were white as a ghost

1419
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: because you were scared. A week later, you're like, I mean,

1420
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: do we.

1421
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: Really need to prosecute all of them, Like yes, nigga, ah, yes,

1422
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: what the fuck?

1423
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 6: I don't care if you had a gun or you

1424
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 6: can't do a selfish lock your ass up.

1425
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 2: What did you think about the inauguration?

1426
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 4: I thought it was so good. I was one of

1427
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 4: those people that I was like, do it on zoom.

1428
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 4: But then you know I was wrong. I was wrong.

1429
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 4: I love you know, I'm all for the pageantry and

1430
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 4: the circumstance and even though I am right or die

1431
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 4: and like nobody better. Not talking about nobody, but Kamla.

1432
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 4: Michelle Obama did that, didn't she?

1433
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: She showed up looking like a Jedi.

1434
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: She did. She gave me if Kamala. I love you girl,

1435
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 4: But hats off to Michelle, but kinda looked amazing. Amanda

1436
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 4: Bormann was spectacular. But I just loved the pageantry of it.

1437
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 4: I loved that it was still a moment, you know

1438
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, even though it didn't have the audience,

1439
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 4: even though we didn't get to go to the balls

1440
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 4: and the parties and all that stuff, like, it was

1441
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 4: just still a moment. And it's something that was just

1442
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: as grand as it should have been in terms of

1443
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 4: at least the ceremonial aspects of it. So I was

1444
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,680
Speaker 4: really really excited to see it. I hate that it

1445
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 4: was in the middle of a pagan like in the

1446
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 4: middle of an insurrection, because I would have been up

1447
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 4: in there somewhere if it had been that. But hopefully

1448
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 4: we'll get a chance to really like all come together

1449
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 4: and celebrate, you know, at least something like, you know,

1450
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: in person. But yeah, I thought it was wonderful. And

1451
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: black woman just and ding ujingum and had on his

1452
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 4: Gucci scar. Okay, his tag call. He said, Okay, I'm

1453
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 4: hanging up the uniform. I am the sergeant of arms now,

1454
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 4: so I get to put on his suit, put.

1455
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 2: On my bip coat, and I got a promotion.

1456
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 4: Yes, he got a promotion. So he really did his thing.

1457
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: So I loved it. I loved just to see black

1458
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 4: women shine. I love that, you know, you know comment

1459
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: it's not one of those people who's like only me,

1460
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 4: you know, everybody can shine around her. So I just

1461
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 4: I just love that. I love everything about it.

1462
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 3: Amanda Gorman was stole the show, like, yeah, it definitely

1463
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 3: felt that way. And then the other thing is I'm

1464
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 3: just glad they did it this way. Because the insurrection

1465
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 3: was terrorism to me, and to me like terrorists when

1466
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 3: when we get scared, like we're like, we're not gonna

1467
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: do this, We're gonna you know what y'all want, Let's

1468
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 3: go in the house, Let's do it on zoom. Like

1469
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 3: I like, like it was and it's one of those

1470
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: things I didn't know I needed to have seen and

1471
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's it, that's that's.

1472
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 5: The right move, and I can breathe now it's normalcy.

1473
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 6: And I think that's the biggest reason why he did that,

1474
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 6: because we have to show you that we have got

1475
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 6: to get back to normal.

1476
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 5: We can't hide, we can't coward, you know.

1477
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 6: And I do understand a lot of people's perspective as

1478
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 6: far as like put do it on zoom, But it's

1479
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 6: that you said, it's just that thing.

1480
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 5: Of actually having the show and the performance.

1481
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: You got to be out here.

1482
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 3: It's like Obama and Obama had the most death threats

1483
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 3: ever of any president and he was just out.

1484
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 2: Here like but I'm the president, so what the fuck,

1485
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: Like this is what it's gonna be.

1486
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 5: Don get this part of the job right, Like.

1487
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like, he wasn't out there like come and

1488
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 2: get me. But he was out there like, listen, if

1489
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: they get me, they get me.

1490
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do my fucking job. And it's like,

1491
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 3: because he believed it, it became true because I know

1492
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: niggas was scared as fuck when we saw that inauguration

1493
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 3: in two thousand and eight.

1494
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: We was hoping the motherfucker be doing it like this

1495
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: and shit.

1496
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 3: So it's like I definitely felt the same kind of

1497
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: energy from Biden, which was like, listen, if Barry wasn't scared,

1498
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna.

1499
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 6: Be scared, right me as a white man, what I

1500
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 6: got to be scared of? You know?

1501
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 5: I got this white man confidence.

1502
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 6: That's how I got here anyway, because I can't you

1503
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 6: and was like, y'all was like, but you passed this.

1504
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 5: You was like, but I'm a white man.

1505
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 2: You was like, but but but what about this?

1506
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 6: And and in his hole he put up a shield

1507
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 6: to set but I'm a white man, and everything burns out.

1508
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 6: And you know what, I don't care what y'all say

1509
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 6: about the niggas in the South. Guess what we said.

1510
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 6: We said, but here a white man. Let's do a

1511
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 6: white off and let's see who who the best. White

1512
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 6: man to win, because if we put anybody else up there,

1513
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 6: the motherfuckers are going to lose.

1514
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 2: That's what George Bush said. Literally, he was like Biden

1515
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: the only one that could have did it.

1516
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Speaker 3: And I was like, I believe that ship because the

1517
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: white voters flipped and they wasn't flipping for nobody else.

1518
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 3: These motherfuckers, like you can't trust them, so but yeah,

1519
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: if they do something to Biding come out, Kamala's just

1520
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:41,839
Speaker 3: gonna be be president.

1521
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 2: And then it's gonna be black woman.

1522
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: If they do something to him, they do something to him,

1523
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 3: and then Kamala's in charge with a mandate of these

1524
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: niggas just killed the president.

1525
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: They don't want them problems.

1526
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 5: They don't want them federal problems. They don't want them problems.

1527
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 6: And and and and for the for the few people

1528
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 6: that came out there with their signs looking around looking

1529
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 6: like Will Smith talking about but I.

1530
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 5: Thought we said we was gonna be out here on power.

1531
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 6: They was like, yeah, thrill, y'all should a why because

1532
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 6: the motherfuckers are going to shoot now ask questions later.

1533
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 6: It was different, if y'all was gonna do the damage,

1534
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 6: you should have did it a week ago now that

1535
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 6: got everybody named Mama Dede sleeping on the corners.

1536
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 3: To be sure, y'all don't do shit. What did you

1537
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 3: think about the vold cover. I know it's a big

1538
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: controversy to Volde cover.

1539
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, I wasn't feeling it like I just

1540
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 4: it's a disrespect for me, y'all, y'all gonna take it

1541
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 4: upon yourself to pick an image that she did not

1542
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 4: care for her. That's disrespectful as fuck. And but I

1543
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,560
Speaker 4: hated the article. I hated the article. I did a

1544
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 4: thread on that, I touched on some things. Uh So

1545
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 4: I was really upset. I was more upset about the

1546
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 4: article than the cover because again, I don't like the

1547
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 4: sneak discan. I don't like the the ignorant takes. I

1548
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 4: don't like how people kind of have these narratives that

1549
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 4: they just kind of slip in there, calling her like

1550
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 4: the writer said, her friend, you know thinks that Kamala

1551
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 4: Harrison is a neoliberal bitch. Where did that come from?

1552
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 4: Kamala Harrison not a Neiliberal? So you know they use

1553
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 4: those buzzwords neoliberal, they use black other black women to

1554
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: try to undercut that. You know, Kamala Harris is for

1555
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 4: the people that, oh, well, we just have to see

1556
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 4: if she's more than symbolic and stuff like that. So

1557
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 4: there was a lot of stuff that I really hated

1558
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 4: about the article. They did come back and they decided

1559
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 4: to do a you know, commemorat commemorative edition with the

1560
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 4: right cover that I was tempted to buy it because

1561
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 4: Kama looked good in that blue suit, but that article

1562
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 4: that did it for me did. Article's trash. I need

1563
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 4: people to get their fast straighten when they write about her.

1564
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep my foot on everybody's neck. I don't

1565
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 4: care if you black, white, Asian, and nineteen oh. If

1566
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 4: you say some shit about Kamala in print or whatever,

1567
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 4: then I'm gonna say something. I'm not saying I got

1568
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 4: all the power, but I'm at least gonna make my

1569
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,919
Speaker 4: make it know some bullshit.

1570
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of what I call performative and

1571
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: partiality when it comes to certain politicians.

1572
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: Like I was listening to a podcast the other day.

1573
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: That was about they talked about Obama and then they

1574
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 3: talked it was supposed to be about Trump, but they

1575
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 3: talked about Obama and that they were both media people

1576
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: at the end, it was like, well, you know, we

1577
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 3: went so easy on Obama, so that's really why we

1578
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 3: got Trump. And I was like, the fuck I was

1579
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 3: there for this, y'all. One, it wasn't easy on Obama.

1580
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 3: He was a better president, that's you know. It's like

1581
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: it's like the teacher being like, I went easy on

1582
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 3: you for writing an a paper, but I really should

1583
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: have went easier on the guy that got the f too.

1584
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 2: It's like, the fuck, No, he didn't do the work

1585
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: he deserved. F he got what he earned.

1586
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,879
Speaker 3: Y'all should be more critical of a motherfucker that's more critical.

1587
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: And I love I was listening to an interview with

1588
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: you and you were talking about being for black women,

1589
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: and I think how a lot of people her and

1590
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 3: black women turn it now with a lot of these phrases, right,

1591
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: black girl magic, but listen to black women blah blah.

1592
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 3: They turn it into like a mandate on all black

1593
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 3: women are always writing, always good. But it's like, no,

1594
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 3: if there's in fighting, there's people that are chaos agents.

1595
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 3: There's people who are fucked up, and the only time

1596
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 3: they bring up that shit is to hide behind the slogan.

1597
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, I just said something real fucked up,

1598
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, that was messed up. First of all,

1599
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 3: listen to black women. It's like, no, that was fucked up.

1600
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 3: I listened to you and what I heard was.

1601
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 2: Something fucked up. So how's it been.

1602
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 3: Going up against that on social media? Because I think

1603
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: a lot of peer pressure. That was the wave like

1604
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 3: for a lot of black people. Yeah, to be against yeah,

1605
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: oh my god, it was.

1606
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 4: I was a pall. I was a Paul because I

1607
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 4: was like, where the hell is this black girl, magic,

1608
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 4: black excellence energy at that We've been routed for everybody,

1609
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 4: the black since Eastern Right said it at the endings

1610
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 4: and then the black women come out, and here y'all

1611
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 4: go dogging out the black women, and I would pull

1612
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 4: out receipts people. I'm still blocked to this day from

1613
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 4: somebody who was trashing Kamala saying that she locked a

1614
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 4: black man for sport. It's of course I had to,

1615
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 4: you know, to check him, and I pulled out receipt

1616
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 4: to him saying he had a tweet Calma, look, Calma up.

1617
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 4: I love Kamala. So I was like, okay, all of

1618
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 4: y'all was all teams that Google guy got over Kamala

1619
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 4: before she started running for president, So it just didn't

1620
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 4: add up to me. But here's the thing I will say.

1621
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 4: I do offer more grace to black people, especially a

1622
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 4: black women, and my delivery now, I still work a

1623
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 4: lot of feathers. People said I was too harsh on

1624
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 4: them or whatever. I hurt their feelings. Okay, Well, winners

1625
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: don't apologize. Okay, but you know thinks you have to apologize.

1626
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 4: But my girl is the vpay so I don't have

1627
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 4: to apologize for shit. I did everything I needed to do.

1628
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 4: Now she not the DPS, then I might have to

1629
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 4: reflect and be like, oh my god, maybe I did

1630
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 4: it too much. No, she won't mission accomplished. But I

1631
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 4: will say that I go ball to the walls hard

1632
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 4: on white men. Like I wrote, Every Woman has a

1633
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 4: Chris Dodd that editorial. When he came back to her

1634
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 4: and I eviscerted his ass, I was cutting people out,

1635
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 4: and I'll there be a kind of motherfuckery and all

1636
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,799
Speaker 4: kinds of stuff. But when it came to black women,

1637
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: I don't call black women trying not to call him

1638
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 4: at that name. Okay, So when I came at black woman,

1639
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 4: I came at to them. A receipts. But I held

1640
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 4: back a little bit and I wasn't calling them bitches

1641
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 4: and I wasn't call them motherfuckers and stuff like that.

1642
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,560
Speaker 4: I would just stick to you know, I might have

1643
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 4: done a little you know, before a man get out

1644
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 4: sometimes I call him black ease and you know, other

1645
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 4: little stuff. But I wasn't calling them that. I was

1646
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 4: saying that people perceive you as, you know, a little blackie.

1647
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 4: You know you do a little black eath or whoever.

1648
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get name names, but you know, I

1649
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 4: was like, at the end of the day, you don't

1650
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 4: get the protection of this and a black woman when

1651
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 4: you coming for a black woman. Now I was cussing

1652
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: you out over a white woman or a white person,

1653
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 4: then you would have some kind of leadway. But don't

1654
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 4: come at me like, oh, you're going too hard on

1655
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: me and I'm a black woman. Okay, well you're going

1656
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 4: too hard on Kamala Harrison. That's why you got me

1657
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 4: in your face right now.

1658
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: That's so and it's so weird how that works for

1659
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 3: people where they're immune for critique from being behind whatever label.

1660
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: But then the second when you're like what the person

1661
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: you're criticizing that, you're really going hard onto being unfair

1662
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 3: to also under that label, and it's like that don't

1663
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: matter all of a sudden.

1664
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 4: Exactly, keep the same energy. Okay, are we being critical today?

1665
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 4: Because if we're being critical again, I'm gonna keep the

1666
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 4: critical energy now. If you being supportive of then I

1667
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,919
Speaker 4: ain't got a problem with you. But if you're criticizing

1668
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 4: Kamala Harrison you're wrong they were, then you know I'm

1669
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 4: coming back at you. Now. If you're right, I just

1670
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 4: mind my business. Okay, I just keep scrolling. Okay, that's

1671
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 4: your opinion, that's fine. But yeah, I'm not gonna let

1672
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 4: somebody get away with something because they're black. Like, no,

1673
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 4: I you come if you come for KAMMLA, if you

1674
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 4: come for black women or whoever the situation may be

1675
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 4: in your raw. Then you know, like I said, I

1676
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 4: won't call you. Be's an m effort, Okay, but I

1677
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 4: am gonna I am gonna check you on it.

1678
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1679
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: I saw Candice Owmys had her baby on Instagram and

1680
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: I said, but your heart, you know what I mean. Like,

1681
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say anything bad. I'm gonna let the

1682
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 3: people that's in your comments that you've coveted. I'm gonna

1683
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 3: let them do it because that's your but but I mean,

1684
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 3: come on, take that baby to a salon though. So

1685
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 3: the other thing, the other thing you brought up, you

1686
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 3: didn't say who it was that you said. I could

1687
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 3: tell it was a hem. That has you blocked to

1688
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: this day.

1689
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm blocked by so many people.

1690
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I know, there's like been a lot made

1691
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 3: of like the riff between black male voters and black

1692
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 3: women voters. Even though it's it's it's kind of to

1693
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 3: me a little bit overblown because we are we voted

1694
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: the most in sync of any race period, Like it's

1695
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 3: one A and one B. Like you know, I get

1696
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: to that some crazy niggas out there, but we're not

1697
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: all ice C. But like I know, people have been

1698
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: critical of this administration for not having enough black men

1699
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: in the cabinet positions and all of this type of stuff,

1700
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 3: Like what do you make of that and that discussion?

1701
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: Well, I agree with you. I think that the whole

1702
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 4: divide between black men and black woman is overblown. Like

1703
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think that there's as much of

1704
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 4: a divide as it's made out to be. As far

1705
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 4: as the cabinet. I mean there are you have the

1706
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 4: first ever black Defense secretary, Boyd Austin, and you have

1707
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,759
Speaker 4: another person that can't remember his name after Michael Reagan

1708
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 4: who's at EPA, And so you have in terms of

1709
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 4: actual cabinet secretaries, you have a black woman and a

1710
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 4: black man. Marsha Fudge is you know, the HUD secretary.

1711
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 4: So it's not like there's a disproportionate amount. And here's

1712
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 4: the thing that people have to understand. You can't just

1713
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 4: talk about, okay, the number of people in each position.

1714
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 4: You have to look at the pipeline of those positions.

1715
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 5: Right.

1716
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 4: So you don't have as large of a pipeline of

1717
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 4: black men in the press shop, right, I mean is

1718
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 4: that a big area for black men? Not particularly? And

1719
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,560
Speaker 4: so I think when we want to talk about you

1720
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 4: want to keep score of different things, then let's build

1721
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: pipelines of black men and black women. Okay, just like

1722
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 4: you have black men in the Senate, we don't have

1723
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 4: any black women in the Senate. Now that's a pipeline issue,

1724
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 4: that's a support issue, that's a structural issue that we

1725
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 4: have to rectify. So I don't think for one second

1726
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 4: that there is an opposition between black men and black women.

1727
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 4: But I do think that sometimes there is a lack

1728
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 4: of solidarity in terms of understanding. We need black men

1729
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 4: represented and we need black women represented, and both sides

1730
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 4: can be powerful and advocating for that, you know what

1731
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying. But you can't just look at it as, oh, well,

1732
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 4: you got two black women and five black men. Are

1733
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 4: you got five black men and two black women. You

1734
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 4: can't look at it like that, you know what I'm saying.

1735
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 4: You have to really look at building the pipelines so

1736
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 4: that we don't have one and done's. And you know,

1737
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 4: you have to also look at deputies. You know, you

1738
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 4: have the deputy Treasury Secretary. It's a black man, you know.

1739
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 4: So that's what we really need to be focused on

1740
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 4: instead of always trying to just keep score a thing.

1741
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 4: We shouldn't keep a score against each other. We gonna

1742
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 4: keep keeps her against the white folks, but not all

1743
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 4: against each other, and that we're not we're not a competition.

1744
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 3: And that's another thing that bothered me about that point

1745
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 3: of view looking at it that way, is because when

1746
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 3: it was black men in positions like that, we count

1747
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 3: that as black, but it's specifically, when it's a black

1748
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 3: woman that we stop and go, No, that's only for

1749
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 3: black women.

1750
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 2: The black men cannot feel represented by that.

1751
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 3: I feel represented to have a black woman VP because

1752
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm still black. Nigga were all black, so it's not

1753
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 3: like she it's not like her blackness stops at Well,

1754
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 3: she's a woman, so that's the only kind of black

1755
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: she can represent. And you know, because I remember when

1756
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 3: everyone was rallying for Obama, we weren't like, well, listen,

1757
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 3: he represents black men and black women. Sit this one out.

1758
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna go ahead. We're not gonna vote for him

1759
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 3: in high numbers like that. That level of solidarity is

1760
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: never reciprocated. And so that's the reason I don't like

1761
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 3: that talking point. It's not that I don't understand it.

1762
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 3: It's not that I don't think that, uh, there might

1763
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: be a growing problem with black people, black men specifically,

1764
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: who are uh get a little that there. They see

1765
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 3: the allure of Republican macho mao patriarchal talking points and

1766
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,640
Speaker 3: they want to go over there. And I understand the

1767
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: logistical argument of they black men, so we need to

1768
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: cover their votes, but low key, how I feel is

1769
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 3: like seventy something million people voted for Trump. Fuck them, like,

1770
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 3: I like, I don't want to like, if they're not

1771
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 3: gonna come back from policy, then I don't understand what's

1772
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 3: gonna get them back, because I don't think it's a

1773
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 3: representation issue where I don't think those black men voters

1774
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: that people are talking about that are defecting from the

1775
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 3: party are like, but if we had a black male

1776
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 3: transportation secretary, I'd come back.

1777
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 2: I don't. They don't.

1778
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 3: I don't think they care about that as much. And

1779
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,480
Speaker 3: I think anyone that voted for Trump the second time around.

1780
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: Is pretty much irredeemable.

1781
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 3: So I think we should plan for them the way

1782
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: we planning for white people, playing around them, Like how

1783
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: are we gonna get the things we want by going

1784
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 3: around them, not by converting them and bringing them back?

1785
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: Because because I think it's a weird.

1786
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: Argument when we say white people have we have not

1787
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 3: won the white vote in the Democratic Party since the

1788
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 3: civil rights had passed, right, And what do people say

1789
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 3: all the time, we gotta stop courting these white people

1790
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 3: that aren't coming back. I agree, but I also think

1791
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 3: that shit extends to a lot of people who aren't

1792
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: coming back. If they're not coming back. Then the maths

1793
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: is the math and I think we should let them go,

1794
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: not push them out. But you shouldn't have to cater

1795
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 3: to somebody as literally sitting there like I have a

1796
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 3: problem with black women. Is why I'm specifically not enthrall

1797
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 3: with Kamala Harris like that, what about that issue?

1798
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 2: That's an internal issue they need to work on.

1799
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,559
Speaker 3: There's no ad that can fix that, there's no talking

1800
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 3: point that can fix that, there's no campaign, no debate.

1801
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: Some people are just adamantly not coming back.

1802
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 3: And I think if twenty twenty wasn't the year of

1803
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 3: that of just these niggas ain't coming back, I don't

1804
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 3: know what to tell you.

1805
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 5: I agree.

1806
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 6: And also is one of those things when you was

1807
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 6: talking about black women because just the history, and I

1808
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 6: think this is where the sexist type of thing get

1809
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 6: in because of misogyny. Black women have always cared about

1810
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 6: black community as a whole because we see black men

1811
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 6: as our children, our husbands, our nephews or you know,

1812
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 6: son in laws. Like black women sees it as a totality.

1813
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 6: History showed us black men most of them do love,

1814
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 6: love the community totalent.

1815
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 3: Yea, we are talking about something like between eight and

1816
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: thirteen percent. I don't want to recond before somebody write

1817
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 3: in with some bullshit. We started with that we the

1818
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 3: most think of any race, any period. So yeah, that's

1819
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 3: what we're talking about.

1820
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, correct, But it's one of those things where you know,

1821
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 6: history has kind of showed us, and particularly black women,

1822
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 6: is that black men support black men because they see

1823
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 6: themselves in the black men, but a lot of times

1824
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 6: the communities around them, they don't see themselves in those communities.

1825
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 6: So for them, it's one of those things where that

1826
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 6: percentage that we're talking about, they don't see a black

1827
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 6: woman represented them, even though studies have shown that a

1828
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 6: lot of times policies that black women put in get

1829
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 6: niggas out of jail, it gets people assistance.

1830
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 2: We start these programs the whole community, right, we.

1831
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 5: Be like, hey, let's educate them brothers, let's do this,

1832
01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 5: let's do that, like like like.

1833
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 6: I whole goal is to reroute funds to help the

1834
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 6: least among us and to help the people that need

1835
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:08,719
Speaker 6: the most help.

1836
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 5: But a lot of times that's not reciprocated.

1837
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 6: So that's why a lot of black women feel left

1838
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 6: out when black men get in these positions, and you.

1839
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 5: Do these policies and you don't even you don't even

1840
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 5: bring us into fucking room. That's when we have a problem.

1841
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 3: If you have an internalized adversarial approach to gender, I

1842
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 3: think you're gonna always see black women at some level

1843
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 3: of like separate from you, right, you know, And and

1844
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 3: I do understand like a lot of our social media

1845
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 3: is that way. A lot of our media is very

1846
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 3: much based on like gender dynamics in the black community

1847
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 3: and like bringing people to a head. But like there's

1848
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 3: there's gotta be something said for the fact that if

1849
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 3: people are defecting from this platform to Trump, right, when

1850
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 3: do we say they not coming back? Because I feel

1851
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 3: like I feel like this is the ultimate they not

1852
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 3: coming back. You voted for a white supremacist that is

1853
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 3: not even hot in it, you know what I mean?

1854
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 3: You out here talking about platinum plans and fucking uh

1855
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 3: like like you know, like plans for Black America that

1856
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 3: don't include black women. Like I think the message has

1857
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 3: been sent like these motherfuckers aren't for us.

1858
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I do want to introduce a different point though,

1859
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 4: is that there's a difference between converting the far gone,

1860
01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 4: moving around somebody's moving around contrary and ansniggas. There's that, right,

1861
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 4: But we do have to realize though, that there are

1862
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 4: reachable people that aren't in the fold because they're disaffected,

1863
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 4: because they're apathetic, because they are not typically engaged. And

1864
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 4: we saw the power of that in Georgia. The margins

1865
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 4: were decided by those one hundred thousand new voters that

1866
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 4: were brought in, largely black voters, And so I do,

1867
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 4: I always do hold the Democratic Party accountable. I am

1868
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 4: in health of Biden Harris ticket accountable for this. You

1869
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 4: have to go to where the people are and get

1870
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,600
Speaker 4: those people that you know, their social medias are not

1871
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 4: curated to get the news coming from what your campaign

1872
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 4: is doing. They're not logging onto a zoom to see

1873
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 4: what you have to say. You have to really bring

1874
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 4: your message to that. And so you know, not I mean,

1875
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 4: I agree with everything that you both said, but I

1876
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,480
Speaker 4: always do like to h to emphasize that the Democratic

1877
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 4: Party has to get better at messaging. There are ways

1878
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: of reaching people that are not already Democratic voters, but

1879
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 4: would be Democratic voters if they were engaged. And that's

1880
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 4: really what the challenge is, particularly for twenty twenty two,

1881
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 4: because the bar is going to be even harder with

1882
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 4: the you know, if we don't pass the John Lewis

1883
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 4: Civil Rights Voting Acts and things like that. So we

1884
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 4: do have that, We do have those people that we

1885
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,599
Speaker 4: that we still have to reach. But as far as

1886
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 4: I'm team move around motherfuckers, because at some point I'm

1887
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 4: not gonna argue with you. Okay, you're not You're not

1888
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 4: my target audience, and that's how I operate. I know

1889
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 4: who my target audience is. It's not the belligerently ignorant people.

1890
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 4: It's people that are like, well I've heard this and

1891
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 4: I've heard that. That's who I can reach, you know,

1892
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: And that's the Democratic Party has to reach those folks,

1893
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 4: that have to reach people who are not even engaged.

1894
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 2: At all that I have to do that.

1895
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 3: That's a great point because I do find fighting apathy

1896
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,440
Speaker 3: is different than fighting people that have defected.

1897
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1898
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: So absolutely, if you, I mean, I would question how

1899
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty you set it out.

1900
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: Like it was pretty this is pretty fucking major. This

1901
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: is like the third part of a Star Wars trilogy,

1902
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 2: and you.

1903
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 6: Just chilling and it was everywhere regardless, like even if

1904
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,160
Speaker 6: you didn't have social media. You heard knew about this, Yeah,

1905
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 6: like this was it was a pandemic. You really did

1906
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:44,560
Speaker 6: not haveing nothing to do.

1907
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know how much more they could get,

1908
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: but I mean, I have to give credit to the

1909
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,759
Speaker 3: Biden Harris campaign.

1910
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: They got out eighty the most voters ever.

1911
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 3: So it's not you know, like I like, I think

1912
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 3: that got lost in the sauce because people keep talking

1913
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 3: about like the amount of people that voted for Trump

1914
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, he got them.

1915
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:00,640
Speaker 2: He got the set and most ever.

1916
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 3: Though, So even though like it's that, I don't I

1917
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 3: hate that he got the second most ever, but I

1918
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 3: love that it wasn't the first most ever.

1919
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: My niggas, we needed to vote.

1920
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 3: So all right, before we get out of here, I

1921
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 3: did want to talk to you about something more fun.

1922
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 3: I know we've talked about a lot of politics, But

1923
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 3: who won the gingerbread house competition that you put on Twitter?

1924
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: I was very intrigued by this.

1925
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, listen, my cousin won the gingerbread house contest.

1926
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Speaker 4: Shout out to my cousin, Serena. She's probably not listening

1927
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 4: because she doesn't follow my stuff like that, but yeah,

1928
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 4: it was. It was a lot of fun. That was

1929
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 4: my first ever gingerbread house, and I just knew. I

1930
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 4: was like, okay, I'm a stage a little bit. Everybody

1931
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 4: hated on my Santa Claus. They were like that they

1932
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 4: can Stanta Claus, I knock a point ZW and I'm like, oh,

1933
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 4: but yeah, no. It was my cousin who won. My

1934
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 4: sister came in second place. I was in third place.

1935
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Speaker 4: But it was fun.

1936
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 3: It was fun to gin oh because you know, I

1937
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 3: didn't know which house was which, but I was, you know,

1938
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: I felt like I was involved and.

1939
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 2: Needed another conclusion. And then the other thing you happen

1940
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 2: to love.

1941
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 3: One of my favorite genres of films, I call them

1942
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: black executive.

1943
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 2: Fan fiction films, and uh so, like fatal is one,

1944
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 2: I watched The Intruder. I don't know if you've seen

1945
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 2: The Intruders.

1946
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 5: I did watch.

1947
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fatal Affair was one. Yeah, so what you what

1948
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: drew you to black executive fan fiction? It's like to

1949
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:36,879
Speaker 2: call it because.

1950
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 3: It's always like black people that have like a job,

1951
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 3: but like the ship they do in the movie never

1952
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 3: matches up with what that job pays. It's like, I'm

1953
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 3: an architect, it's like, nigga, you live in Bill Gay's house,

1954
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 3: how do you get what are you architecting?

1955
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And what did you built

1956
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 2: them up with? Guitar?

1957
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 5: It's always the big deal.

1958
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Like so how'd you get into that genre?

1959
01:32:58,240 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 4: I just I like, I like, I think suspense. So

1960
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 4: that's that's that's the first thing that draws me to it.

1961
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 4: I actually like a black movie that's not like aggressively black,

1962
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean. Like, I know that

1963
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 4: sounds a little cool and that should me to say that,

1964
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 4: but you know, if you go to the black section

1965
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 4: right and it's like slaves, prison, drugs, violence, and it's like, okay,

1966
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 4: I don't mind the violence part, but can we be

1967
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 4: like James Bond violent and not like you know, bloods

1968
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: and crypts, violet and so like, I like the element

1969
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 4: of it that it's not like super aggressively black, like

1970
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 4: over the top, like you know what I'm saying. There's

1971
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 4: some aggressively black you know movies out there. I mean,

1972
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 4: I like all of that stuff, but it's just a film.

1973
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 4: It's just a regular schmegular like you know, suspense film.

1974
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 4: You get to sit up there and be like, ah,

1975
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 4: don't do that, you know, like every one of those skilms,

1976
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 4: I probably should have a conversation my husband the same conversation.

1977
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, do not let me get caught off broad

1978
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 4: like these bitches you out there something. Do not paint

1979
01:34:00,479 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 4: no bitch money. Make sure that I know, don't have

1980
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 4: the slipping where somebody.

1981
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 5: A house, you know.

1982
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 4: So it's that's the fun of it, right, it is

1983
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:11,280
Speaker 4: just to have you. He's really like just random ass conversations.

1984
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think Michael ee is like the king

1985
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 4: of like this yo, that his whole genre.

1986
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: I was talking to him.

1987
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 3: We did a movie review of it, and uh I

1988
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 3: did it with the same guys I did the review

1989
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 3: for in The Intruder. Michael Ealy is in a category

1990
01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 3: of his own when it comes to being a pensive

1991
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 3: black man like that nigga does pensive so good.

1992
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,639
Speaker 2: Like his whole face is just anxiety all the time.

1993
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 3: And er he always worried, right, and he's of course,

1994
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, he can still do the love scenes, attractive,

1995
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 3: all that stuff. But when it just comes to a

1996
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 3: nigga being worried as fucked for an hour and a half,

1997
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,599
Speaker 3: you not fucking with Michael. You're not fucking with Michael eee.

1998
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 4: Michael ee is gonna make sure he has a bomb

1999
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 4: ass card, his movies, a bomb house, a bomb a

2000
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 4: bomb a wife like he ain't around Michael eediots like

2001
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, no no, I'm not doing this,

2002
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 4: and her black ship, I'm doing this, you know, high

2003
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 4: falut and bougie stuff.

2004
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 3: And he gave us range, okay, because in the Perfect Guy,

2005
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 3: he was the bad guy, so he gave us.

2006
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 2: He gave us villain and the intruder.

2007
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 3: He was kind of like a cug like like like

2008
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 3: they made him. So he got beat up by that

2009
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 3: old white man.

2010
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 4: You didn't like the guns, black person, don't like guns.

2011
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 2: Not living in the woods around these white folks. You

2012
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 2: better liked you some guns. It was hilarious.

2013
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 3: And then in this movie he was the husband that

2014
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: that kind of that cheats and then ends up over

2015
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:39,520
Speaker 3: his head in a murder conspiracy.

2016
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: So like that was that was a lot. He gave

2017
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: us a lot of rains.

2018
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 3: That was the only unbelievable part was I just couldn't

2019
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 3: seehim cheating on his wife with that woman.

2020
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 4: But you know, you know Hillary, you know that was

2021
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 4: Hillary's movie because she had no physics casting her damnself

2022
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:59,000
Speaker 4: as the vixen. Okay, the cop part matched the vixen party.

2023
01:35:58,960 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 3: And you know she is you know, she is too

2024
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 3: big for that kind of movie for her, because I

2025
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 3: think she got two oscars because like the sex scenes

2026
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 3: wasn't really sexy, you know, like that thing.

2027
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: It's that thing where you get like like I'm not

2028
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: taking my clothes off. I know that much.

2029
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 3: It's like, well, you know, you don't need this movie,

2030
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: like we need this movie for people that's gonna like,

2031
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: let's gonna slang.

2032
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 4: Okay, but she was a producer, so she's gonna make

2033
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 4: herself to leave. Like I said that that didn't That

2034
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 4: was not believable to me. I was like, he's in

2035
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 4: Vegas with all these who's around.

2036
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 6: They was at the Black Strip Club and that's who.

2037
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:36,920
Speaker 2: He went home with.

2038
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 4: That was unbelievable, right, belie.

2039
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 3: That they started to switch. They started the strip club

2040
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 3: scene with uh strippers turking and that's my tight, nigga,

2041
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 3: that's my tight, and then he went home with Hillary Slank.

2042
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 3: I was like, come on, man, come on, brother, that's

2043
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:57,560
Speaker 3: not how it happens. But but yeah, that was that

2044
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 3: was pretty unbelievable. But the other thing about these movies

2045
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 3: is so good. If it's bad, it's still good.

2046
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 6: And this is why I missed going to the movie

2047
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 6: theaters because what was that to Rogi p Henson movie Macimony?

2048
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 6: Because Roger went to go see it in the movie

2049
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 6: theaters first, and he kept telling me about it.

2050
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 2: It was so bad, but everyone in my theater we

2051
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 2: had the best time. I waited too.

2052
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 3: We said so much, I said, next to this old

2053
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 3: black couple and matching tracksuits, and we were best friends

2054
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 3: by the end of that movie because we were. They

2055
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 3: was like, how she get on the boat in that jury?

2056
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 5: I was like, right.

2057
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:38,520
Speaker 4: Now, indeed, indeed acrimony.

2058
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,560
Speaker 6: It was bad, but it was so much fun to

2059
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 6: watch with the black folks yelling at the screen.

2060
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 2: It was I had such a good time.

2061
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 3: When I went to see it. I took Karen back.

2062
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 3: I said, let's go back. You have to because everyone's

2063
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 3: like it's terrible. I was like, you have to see

2064
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 3: it the way it was intended to be seen well,

2065
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 3: with other black people yelling loud at the screen. It's

2066
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 3: just it does something for it, you know what I mean.

2067
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 3: I wish what fatal off fair came out on Netflix.

2068
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 3: I wish it would have came out in the theater

2069
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 3: because I know other black people would have been there

2070
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 3: and we would have just made fun of the of

2071
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 3: the ship that was terrible.

2072
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,919
Speaker 2: But instead they came the Netflix.

2073
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 3: Anyway, it has been great tonight to meet you, you know,

2074
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 3: virtually and whatnot. I followed you on Twitter for a

2075
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 3: while and stuff, and I really appreciate you saying you

2076
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 3: would do the show and letting us interview to talk

2077
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 3: to you. Thank you for having me, no doubt, no doubt.

2078
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 3: Anytime You're free to come back. If you need to

2079
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 3: promote anything or whatever.

2080
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,759
Speaker 2: You can check her. You can check her out on Twitter.

2081
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 3: Black women Views, uh every Thursdays, Mark Roland Martin and filtered.

2082
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 3: Are you still you're still doing that? And of course

2083
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 3: she has an artist. I'm sorry say that again.

2084
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 4: I'm serious Urban Urban View every Friday, every Friday.

2085
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: Cool. Nope, And like I said, follow her for you know,

2086
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 3: her tweets about Kamala and the administration really very vocal

2087
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 3: supporter of black women. I remember when they weren't going

2088
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,879
Speaker 3: to replace Kamala's seat with a black.

2089
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Woman and Reese was she was out. She was who

2090
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 2: they fit in the.

2091
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 3: Like I like, I like, I really appreciate your point

2092
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:19,640
Speaker 3: of view and stuff and uh, and I really thank

2093
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 3: you for the work you do because I know it's

2094
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 3: not pay work, but I still consider it labor because

2095
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 3: it's still work, you know what I mean, and you

2096
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 3: get harassed for it. And you really were a big

2097
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 3: part of helping me to be like, let me go

2098
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,600
Speaker 3: look into Kamala Harris more because like, I don't this

2099
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 3: woman is making really good points and I don't think

2100
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 3: that Like I'm like with like her threads have like

2101
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 3: links to facts, the articles and all this stuff, and

2102
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, she's not just saying this, let me go

2103
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 3: very She's given it so I can verify myself. And

2104
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 3: you are a big person that turned me around to

2105
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 3: be like I'm not gonna be apathetic towards Kamala. I'm

2106
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:56,879
Speaker 3: going to be supportive.

2107
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 2: So thank you.

2108
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 4: That's the best compliment. Like of all the same people

2109
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 4: say it's always like oh maybe they like if I

2110
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 4: convert intobody too, like a Commala supporter. That is the

2111
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 4: best compliment that anybody gives me.

2112
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 3: So thank you, no problem, have a good rest of

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01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 3: your day. Audience will be back tomorrow. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: Until tomorrow, I love you