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Speaker 2: The volume.

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Speaker 3: This show is dedicated to the shape of the Earth.

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Speaker 3: Are you Lloyd Jamar?

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Speaker 2: This entire pod is not about current events about us.

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Speaker 3: We're strictly here to figure out what.

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Speaker 4: The shape of the commercial episode in here.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get on the same path as me.

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Speaker 2: That was the greatest podcast episode I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: my life.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, but before before we get to that, hold on,

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Speaker 5: hold on but before wed I watched the three.

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Speaker 3: Times I subscribed to Professor Daves. I watched his day.

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Speaker 5: He's not he's not lying, he's dead serious.

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Speaker 2: And I came in here like you're seen what's up

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Speaker 2: with you?

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Speaker 6: And Jamal and the fucking flat arms. What's going on

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Speaker 6: with the flat arth don't make no sense? Can give

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Speaker 6: us some about what to shape for the earth is

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Speaker 6: and this is supposed to be peace to the gods

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Speaker 6: and the earth flat right? You know what?

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Speaker 7: Mocks talk but they breath, go away, don't matter?

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Speaker 3: Does it affect you to side of the mouth of

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Speaker 3: the funny.

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Speaker 5: The funniest part about all this is this originally was

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Speaker 3: And I came in here. I'm like, I think Godfrey

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Speaker 4: And it was like you and I said.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'm like, where are you at?

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Speaker 3: And now he's.

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Speaker 5: Here in the studio, So thank you for coming back,

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Speaker 5: No doubt appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 7: I know you guys sort of because I was like,

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Speaker 7: aren't you don't fuck?

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Speaker 2: I do appreciate that you blindly accept podcast invitations because

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Speaker 2: when we got on zoom, you were.

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Speaker 3: Like, ain't you the guys? Yeah coming over there.

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Speaker 7: That we appreciate that because I watched and listen regardless

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Speaker 7: of what happens in this biz, you know, everyone's doing

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Speaker 7: that thing. Things happen is what it is. Man, I

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Speaker 7: mean looking with the flat earth the ship. I adn't

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Speaker 3: That's what's hilarious. You haven't spoke.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't. I don't, I didn't do anything. But

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Speaker 7: why don't you have when we bring it, because we're

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Speaker 7: going to bring Neil de Grass Tyson on there.

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Speaker 3: Because that he was going to debate him, because Chuck.

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Speaker 7: Chuck Nice, my man, Chuck Nice is his co host

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Speaker 7: on his show Star Talk.

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Speaker 7: Also, I did Neil de Grasson's Neila Grass Tyson's show

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Speaker 7: I said, yeah, let's call Neil the Grass because we were

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Speaker 2: After you guys had that conversation, Professor Dave did his

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Speaker 2: He's gonna piss somebody, somebody from neuro he's gonna piss off.

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Speaker 7: But you really want to battle this flat earth ship

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Speaker 7: because for me, I understand why flat Earthers have come

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Speaker 7: conspiracy theories. That's where's conspiracy theories come from. Is there

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Speaker 7: I like people that, even if they're wrong, they have

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge conspiracy theorist. They accused me of being

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Lord margin as well. I was like, no,

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Speaker 7: There is some stuff that made sense, you know, perspective wise. Okay,

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Speaker 7: if this is this, why don't we see the curvature that?

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Speaker 7: Then I brought my buddy on, My buddy, Calvin stig Stiggy.

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Speaker 3: He's a pilot.

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Speaker 7: Jamaican was Jamaican is all hell, and he studied geospace

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Speaker 7: engineering and he was he protected Obama. He's an air forceman,

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Speaker 7: like he did the tom Cruise ship that you get

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Speaker 4: So he goes, he goes. He said, what blood cloud?

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Speaker 3: The earth is round?

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Speaker 7: I said, Jamaican is saying that ship.

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Speaker 4: When they go bumba cloud.

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Speaker 7: I showed up, I said, he said, it's real.

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Speaker 4: So there is curvature. It is what it is.

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Speaker 7: What if they are? Because we don't we're not satellite

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Speaker 7: we have I haven't. I'm not superman R I can

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Speaker 3: I you know, the moon landing.

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Speaker 7: I'm doubting that ship, you know, especially after those space

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Speaker 7: cunts went up there. I'm sorry, the cosmic cunts.

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Speaker 3: This yeah, called by the proper names, the cosmic cunts.

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Speaker 4: The cosmic cunts went up, kid, they go up.

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Speaker 7: They didn't even have at least motorcycle helmets saw this.

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Speaker 4: Why would you pick her?

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Speaker 7: It's like it was just love, love and conduction and

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Speaker 7: I felt the gravitational pull and then Bezos his wife

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Speaker 4: There was no effect on that.

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Speaker 8: Look at my daisy, Oh my god, a deavi men

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Speaker 8: connect shat And then they came out like yeah, if

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Speaker 4: And then Bassos tried to open the door. They already

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Speaker 3: It was like fucking too. Was like yeah we saw it.

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Speaker 3: No aanks to make sure his wife is okay, yes,

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Speaker 3: and you.

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Speaker 7: Know what, and then it's like you can't we our

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Speaker 2: This makes no space look like real space. Like I

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Speaker 5: We have to get there to spunk, right.

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Speaker 3: And these motherfuckers like yeah, yeah, we were there.

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Speaker 4: It's love and it's cannot shotting.

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Speaker 7: Like it was brunt time for feminism in that high altitude.

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Speaker 3: The fuck is wrong with you? Any gender thing? Shot?

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Speaker 2: Not that she found about love of there, it was

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Speaker 7: Did you see that concert she was doing that? It

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Speaker 7: Gravitational forces done fun to me. When she was in

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Speaker 4: But they were all these sexy suits.

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Speaker 7: And then there's Gail King, right, and there's Oprah's body double,

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Speaker 7: The girl that's the Vietnamese girl who was actually you know,

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Speaker 3: They fucked up. Yeah. Yeah, She's like it was just

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Speaker 7: She was like this, like she's like, have you been

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Speaker 7: what happened to your friend? Is Jeff Bezos? Space costs

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Speaker 7: North Carolina. You're talking about I was using my flyer

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Speaker 7: flight and you're talking about have you been to slate?

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Speaker 7: That's what I knew it was. I'm sorry, have you

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Speaker 7: me know. Have you been to space?

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Speaker 3: No, we haven't. You're the only ones that have obviously

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Speaker 2: Because that's why you heard what you're talking about. Flint

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Speaker 5: God, I totally forgot about that that Flint didn't No, no,

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Speaker 5: I went to Flint.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: This space voyage that Gail Kingdom went over the interviews.

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Speaker 4: People don't believe it. If you've been to space.

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Speaker 7: If I have a friend named Jeff bab a friend

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Speaker 4: He'll pay for my dam But you didn't go to smutic.

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Speaker 4: Have you been in space?

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Speaker 7: You obviously haven't either, because you're not explaining anything to us.

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Speaker 7: You could have been like, well, the gravitational forces, it

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Speaker 7: You were like this, have you been to space? Well,

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Speaker 7: if you don't know space, shut your ass, and you

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Speaker 7: know how they use the word space now just in Jail,

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Speaker 7: I just love this space that we're in.

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Speaker 4: You know that we were in a space in space.

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Speaker 7: It was sort of a safe space in space, which

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Speaker 10: So everything's about spacey that I'm spacey from the space,

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Speaker 10: and in this space I was able to really be

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Speaker 4: And this is a good working space for me.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. And you know, and people who don't know about

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Speaker 7: this space know nothing about the space.

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Speaker 2: So where are you on the side of I still

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Speaker 2: want to take Lord Jamara Antarctica?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember when they did the experiment recently?

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Speaker 7: What thirty five thousand dollars apiece for these flat earthers

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Speaker 7: to go to because they say that Antarctica there's an

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Speaker 7: end in Antarctica, there's some other like big fucking land.

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Speaker 4: Okay, there's a wall.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So this dude's like the romaniles on the other side.

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Speaker 4: I'm right, I'm pretty to take careious.

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Speaker 3: There's a Child island right there. Go to Google maps.

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Speaker 3: Is there a Rothschild Island in Antarctica? Yeah? I believe that.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a fact snowcastle. Listen, I'm saying that the

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Speaker 2: Earth is round. I'm also saying that the rough Child's

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Speaker 7: Island like that along with that could be the Rothschild,

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Speaker 7: the Rock of Felly.

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Speaker 3: I believe that now.

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Speaker 7: But as far as like he goes, okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: take you guys to Antarctica, fly you all out. This

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Speaker 7: guy scientist paid thirty five thousand a piece. Yeah, I

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Speaker 7: watch the sun. If the sun stays in the air,

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Speaker 7: they were like, okay, bet they camped out.

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Speaker 4: That fucking sun stayed there. They were like, that's cgr

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Speaker 4: that fucking are.

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Speaker 3: They all right?

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Speaker 2: So they were. They took like flat Earther influencers, like

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Speaker 2: they took the Kendall Jenner of flat Earth down there,

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Speaker 2: it's real. Then they exiled them like some scientology ship,

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Speaker 2: like they kicked them out of the flat earther community

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Speaker 2: because they were like, guys, I was there.

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Speaker 4: I promise you that was not they were. And then

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Speaker 4: they're like it's round. Earth is round.

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Speaker 5: It's it's right Wrongati kicked out of the return.

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Speaker 3: It's a freak kicked out.

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Speaker 7: You're out here you think it's you think it's a spear,

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Speaker 7: You're right of your asshole.

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Speaker 2: And the internet is just the worst place because when

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Speaker 2: I was here they make their money. Though I wasn't

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Speaker 2: there's no flights from Argentina to Australia, and I was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: why is that the case?

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Speaker 3: Then I went on price line. I'm like, no, you

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Speaker 2: Put misinformation as a fact and if you don't double check,

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Speaker 2: he just doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Go to Trinidad. I just found that yesterday they don't.

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Speaker 3: So it's not a triangle. You look at the jet

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Speaker 3: you can get there.

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Speaker 4: They sold the lines Jet Blue has more lies.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going at one flat Earth or rabbit hole.

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Speaker 3: I went down.

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Speaker 2: They showed footage of everyone taking off from Australia and

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Speaker 2: they said they were forcing everyone to put the windows

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Speaker 3: Yo. But these.

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Speaker 4: I gotta give credit to flat Earth.

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Speaker 3: There's that. Keep going.

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Speaker 4: They'll go like this, but no, and how come the

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Speaker 3: Gets with that?

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Speaker 7: That's the flat earth the grab. And then we were

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Speaker 7: of course. Okay, how come when you dip up the

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Speaker 4: In water like a tennis ball, and you spin it,

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Speaker 3: It does it? The water doesn't fly off the Earth?

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Speaker 11: He goes, hey, dummy, because the Earth is a gigantic

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Speaker 11: fucking mass, a humongous mass, and gravity exists, and there's

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Speaker 11: a you know, there's a force that keeps us down.

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Speaker 4: You know, when you throw a ball up, it goes

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Speaker 4: fucking down.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, you know where down? He's like, do

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Speaker 3: you know where down is?

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Speaker 7: And in buoyancy in the equation if you can pop

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Speaker 7: gravity on the other side of the the equal side.

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Speaker 7: G is in the is in the equation for buoyancy.

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Speaker 7: It's in the equation. Why do things float? There's gravity

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Speaker 4: I'm stupid.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like I'm sitting here like I know everything,

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Speaker 2: But this ship makes more sense to me than someone

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Speaker 2: just screaming, hey, a ball can't uh what's their famous line,

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, when they said it, I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's a great point. I was underly disproven right here.

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Speaker 2: It's a great point.

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Speaker 7: You know it's not.

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of love and respect for Lord Jamar.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to make it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to make it seem

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Speaker 2: like you're not a large I was on his side

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Speaker 2: in the beginning, and I thought in the like, yo, listen,

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Speaker 2: this down for you.

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Speaker 4: And and and Neil de grass Tyson.

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Speaker 7: You know, have you heard when him and Terrence Howard

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Speaker 7: wrote some stuff, some sign tipic theories, and Terrence is like,

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Speaker 7: I believe that that the planet there's no such thing

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Speaker 7: as zero, because if you see, I've done a lot

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Speaker 3: You know, he sounds like skin. That's what he sounds like. Skinn.

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Speaker 7: I love Terrence Swry. He sounds light skin, though I

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Speaker 7: sound like a dark skin. He sounds light skin. See

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Speaker 7: nobody dark skin?

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Speaker 3: Thunds like that. He hits.

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Speaker 7: Here's the thing, though, you have to understand the philosophy

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Speaker 4: I've done this for a long time. He sounds like skin.

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Speaker 4: That's what I love.

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Speaker 7: But he ain't no joke. He don't play that bullshit

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Speaker 7: though I love will smack ship real deal. He ain't

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Speaker 7: no fucking He ain't no bump. That's what they whether.

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Speaker 2: He was playing a pimp, a rapper with He wears

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Speaker 4: And I love him to be that guy. That Batman

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Speaker 4: thing where he meets Batman, like he goes, what's up Batman?

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Speaker 12: He goes, it's Batman. Okay, that's what I said, Batman.

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Speaker 12: That ship is his direct a lat But but when

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Speaker 7: Right, Because Neil the Grass actually looked at at the

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Speaker 7: paper he wrote and said, I looked at it, but

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Speaker 7: I just didn't have time to you know. But there's

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Speaker 7: some things that he said that didn't They weren't right,

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Speaker 7: But I give him credit for his effort.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's this thing they call what's the theory?

444
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Speaker 7: They call where you you think you know enough, you

445
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Speaker 7: think you know something, but you don't have enough information

446
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Speaker 7: to really know, and you don't know what you're talking about.

447
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Speaker 3: There's a there's a theory was it was? It called.

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Speaker 4: It's now, it's not cognitive dissonance. It's ship.

449
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Speaker 3: It's it's a theory where you narcissism.

450
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Speaker 4: You don't know.

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Speaker 7: Right where you have you think you have a certain

452
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Speaker 7: amount of information to make you think you know everything,

453
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Speaker 7: but you.

454
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Speaker 3: Don't have enough.

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Speaker 5: Something like that, District attorney, Puffy's lawyers, Okay read that?

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Speaker 3: Can you read that?

457
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 5: The phrase you don't know what you don't know highlights

458
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Speaker 5: the limitations of human knowledge and the potential for gaps

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Speaker 5: and understanding. It emphasizes that there are often things we

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Speaker 5: are unaware we don't know, which can lead to misunderstandings

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Speaker 5: or flawed assumptions.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it's that.

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Speaker 4: And so Neil de Grass said, that's what he has.

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Speaker 4: He has that you know, you'll get.

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Speaker 7: That's what he has. But I love his But I

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Speaker 7: we're scientists. We do We've done experiments over and over

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Speaker 7: and over.

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Speaker 2: We this is what we do.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not knocking him, but what you're talking about

470
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Speaker 4: is wrong because.

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Speaker 7: I'm a fucking scientistic because I know what about acting,

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Speaker 7: like Arren' is an amazing actor.

473
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Speaker 4: He's like, that's like me telling you about acting.

474
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Speaker 3: You don't know it like I do.

475
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Speaker 7: And so so that was really interesting that you know,

476
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Speaker 7: and and it's and and my thing is science is

477
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Speaker 7: there to be debated.

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with that?

479
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Speaker 3: Is nothing wrong?

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Speaker 7: Even though they've they've since the days of Einstein and

481
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Speaker 7: and and and and Boor and all these scientists that

482
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Speaker 7: have you know how they have all these different types

483
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Speaker 7: of they have, they have their own theories, they have

484
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Speaker 7: their own calculations and equations. Even back then, these are

485
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Speaker 7: I mean, madam cured. They all did science experiments over

486
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Speaker 7: for tons of them. So these motherfuckers know what they're

487
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Speaker 7: talking about, and it's okay to debate them.

488
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Speaker 2: Just be ready to get wrong, right, Just be ready

489
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Speaker 2: to be worth their actual job. Like right, just get ready,

490
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Speaker 2: you know, you know, it's like getting in a scene

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Speaker 2: with Denzel and be like, I know how to act?

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Speaker 4: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure?

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Speaker 12: So?

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Speaker 3: What are we going to do?

496
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Speaker 4: We're gonna work.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna keep your mouth shut? Is that what let me?

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Speaker 3: You think?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: You know? And now I'm sitting here like I don't know?

501
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Speaker 7: That said what do I need to do to be

502
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Speaker 7: at coming actor? He said, learn, shut up, turn off

503
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Speaker 7: your phone, practice train?

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Speaker 3: It was who was a men of Society who directed that?

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Speaker 3: Which Brothers was Hudland?

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Speaker 5: I think it was the Yeah, I think it was.

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Speaker 3: Was it Hudland Brothers?

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Speaker 5: No, oh, no, it was was it Bill Duke?

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Speaker 3: No, Society is the Brothers.

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Speaker 4: You know you think you know you don't fucked up?

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Speaker 4: You know that one right with Bill Bill.

512
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Speaker 3: Hughes Brothers.

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Speaker 4: Bill Duke was the one who said, you know you

514
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Speaker 4: didn't fuck it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so Alan he was doing a podcast

516
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Speaker 2: I think it was like with Neil Brennan maybe, and

517
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Speaker 2: was talking about directing Denzel for the first time, and

518
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Speaker 2: anytime he had any type of note or real direction,

519
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Speaker 2: Denzel would just show.

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Speaker 3: Thirty two thirty two.

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Speaker 4: He'd do it for the whole week.

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Speaker 2: And then Alan he was realized he was saying the

523
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Speaker 2: amount of movies he's done and saying, shut up, shut

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Speaker 2: the fuck up, thirty two thirty two. Don't tell me

525
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Speaker 2: what the fuck I'm doing right now?

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Speaker 3: That is oh, yeah, hilarious, thirty two dinner for a

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Speaker 3: whole week.

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Speaker 7: He was called thirty two, thirty two, thirty two crazy,

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Speaker 7: you know what? That's what I was like, Shut the

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Speaker 7: fuck up, Yeah, let me do what I got. You

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Speaker 7: just saw me in a Gang of Movies. Got an

532
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Speaker 7: oscar quick, right, let me do what I do.

533
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Speaker 3: What I'm doing.

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Speaker 5: Everybody, he's like, can you like, no, yeah, no, I

535
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Speaker 5: can't do you see me directing you?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 4: You know it's in the thirty's. It happened to me.

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Speaker 7: I was on a sentence. And when it comes to comedy, like,

539
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Speaker 7: I just feel like those people can't tell.

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Speaker 5: The difference for you between let's say, standing.

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Speaker 7: Up and then situational comedy. Yeah, it's I can. I'm

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Speaker 7: good at both, you know, not everybody. A lot of

543
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Speaker 7: comedians can transfer into acting. That's one thing. A lot

544
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Speaker 7: of comedians can go from stand up to like sketch

545
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Speaker 7: comedy and stuff like that because we have that timing thing.

546
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Speaker 4: We do character work on stage, so we can adjust easier.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying we're all gonna be the greatest at it,

548
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Speaker 7: but that's why they pick a lot of comics on

549
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Speaker 7: a lot of sketch stuff, because we kind of know

550
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Speaker 7: because a lot of sketches come from comics that they've watched. Oh,

551
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Speaker 7: they'll steal a joke and just extend it into a sketch.

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Speaker 3: You feel me.

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Speaker 7: So a lot of times, a lot of writers from

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Speaker 7: the snls and whatever will go to comedy clubs to

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Speaker 7: get premises.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and you'll go, wait a minute, it looks

557
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Speaker 4: like my shit, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So that's why we're real.

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Speaker 7: We can we can think in sketch too, because a

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Speaker 7: lot of comics are writers.

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Speaker 4: You got Michael Cha, you got Colin Jos. They're all comics.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of my comic friends, right, a lot

564
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Speaker 7: of sketches. They're all comedians.

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Speaker 2: So even though John Lenny was the head writer sketch, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's a stand up.

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Speaker 7: So a lot of us are stand up. Colin Quinn

568
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Speaker 7: was a stand up. Dennis Miller a stand up stads.

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Speaker 7: So we can get into acting. A lot of comics

570
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Speaker 7: can become dramatic actors too, you can because we're angry.

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Speaker 7: First of all, we're fucking angry. Comedy comes from anger,

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Speaker 7: pain and ship like that. You look at some great actors,

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Speaker 7: Robin Williams, you look at Michael Keaton was a stand

574
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Speaker 7: up Really what native Yeah, Michael's stand up comic, Michael Keaton,

575
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Speaker 7: who's one of the best greatest actors of Michael Keaton's

576
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Speaker 7: stand up?

577
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Speaker 4: Kevin Pollack a stand up?

578
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Speaker 7: Who else was. Richard Pryor was a good actor. Richard

579
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Speaker 7: actors asshole, you got, Eddie Murphy, you got. We can

580
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Speaker 7: keep going. There's a lot of stand ups that can

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Speaker 7: become actors. Rosie o'donald was a stand up comic. Rose

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Speaker 7: Ambarr stand up comed We could just it's easy to

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Speaker 7: it's easier. It's it's harder for an actor to do comedy, right, yeah,

584
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 7: for sure, but drama week it's easier for us to

585
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Speaker 7: get into that ship.

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Speaker 3: You see Robert de Niro try to be a comedic actor,

587
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Speaker 3: and it's funny because Greg he's doing mafia movies. I like, listen,

588
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Speaker 3: I like but he But you remember the actors trying

589
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Speaker 3: to be a comedian.

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Speaker 4: There was a show called The Actors Studio with James Lifton.

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Speaker 3: I love that. Papel did it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he asked de Niro, what's the hardest thing

593
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Speaker 4: for you an actor?

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Speaker 7: He goes comedy. It's it's so difficult, Denzel said it comedy. Comedy.

595
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 7: Kim Bassenger said, comedy. It's harder than drama, and it

596
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Speaker 7: doesn't get rewarded the way it should be. I think

597
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Speaker 7: a funny movie should be rewarded for because that's hard

598
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Speaker 7: because you already go into when you're going to go

599
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 7: see a funny, funny movie, you already got attitude. This

600
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Speaker 7: should better be funny, right right, ship, You know you

601
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Speaker 7: don't go into the drama going I better cry like a.

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Speaker 4: Because the notebook an me snotting bubbles.

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Speaker 3: Baby, I bet a cry like a bitch. Do I

604
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Speaker 3: want to?

605
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Speaker 4: I want to lose breath in this motherfucker?

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Speaker 3: You never do that.

607
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you just go drama as a drama. You don't

608
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Speaker 7: always go to funny ushit wouldn't even funny. It's way

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Speaker 7: harder because there's an expectation. You know, a drama you

610
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Speaker 7: can have laughter, you can hear. If you cry, you

611
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Speaker 7: can hear. Comedy is like I just I come for

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Speaker 7: one fucking reaction.

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Speaker 3: So you grew up.

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Speaker 5: You grew up in Chicago. What's the Is it tougher

615
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Speaker 5: like the comedy scene, the comedy clubs in Chicago? Is

616
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Speaker 5: it tougher than New York? Or is New York by

617
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Speaker 5: far the toughest city for comedy right now?

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Speaker 7: I don't know the landscape of comedy as far as

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Speaker 7: coming up because I'm like, I've been doing it over

620
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Speaker 7: twenty five years.

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Speaker 3: So I don't.

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Speaker 4: But I knew in Chicago. I mean New York had

623
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Speaker 4: just more stages.

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Speaker 7: Okay, New York and I've been coming up during the

625
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Speaker 7: deaf jam times and not it was I ain't gonna lie.

626
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Speaker 4: The urban shit was wild as fuck, Like what these

627
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Speaker 4: New York motherfuckers were.

628
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Speaker 3: Like, give a fuck? Yeah, I didn't even go up

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Speaker 3: yet they went to move. They'd be like, I'm just

630
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Speaker 3: letting you know what's about to happen to your son.

631
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Speaker 4: Don't be corny.

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Speaker 3: I had what the gods.

633
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Speaker 7: All you see was pale jackets and fucking echo jackets.

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Speaker 3: And ship like that is like this ship like make me,

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Speaker 3: make me.

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Speaker 4: N you go like this, Yeah, you're like, damn, what

637
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Speaker 4: the fuck you?

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Speaker 3: Brooke?

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Speaker 4: I was did all.

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Speaker 7: But in Chicago we had our urban circuit because I

641
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Speaker 7: came under Bernie Max Club. So it was me, Dion

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Speaker 7: cole h I would see Dean Cole, Corey Holcom, d

643
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Speaker 7: Ray Davis, I see Mike Caps would come from Indianapolis,

644
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 7: Edri would come from Saint Louis. So we was under

645
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Speaker 7: Bernie Max Ship. So we were doing urban. Like Chicago

646
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Speaker 7: urban scene was like, you know, we had Bishop don Juan,

647
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Speaker 7: you know the guy that hangs out with Snoop. I

648
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 7: know before Snoop though, he knew me as an amateur.

649
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 7: When I shot Soul playing with Snoop, Bishop came on

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Speaker 7: the set and greeted me first.

651
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Speaker 3: Wow, he came on.

652
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: He said, baby Man, I'm proud of your baby Man.

653
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Speaker 3: You've been man.

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Speaker 7: I remember when you first started baby representing Chicago and

655
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Speaker 7: Snoop was like, how fuck you know? I said, I'm

656
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 7: from Chicago, Snoop. He goes, that's why I fuck with you, dog,

657
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Speaker 7: I love Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah.

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Speaker 7: We used to do pimp shows in Chicago with the

660
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Speaker 7: pimps to come Bernie Mack and it would be the

661
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Speaker 7: Chicago Bulls. When we was winning, we was giving the

662
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Speaker 7: next hand in it they had.

663
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: Boy, that was the greatest playoff shit ever.

664
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 7: But that was the time when I was coming to

665
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 7: New York wearing wearing Jordan T shirts just being an asshole,

666
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 7: and Cats was like, no, fuck you man, I go, yo,

667
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 7: I'm not playing in the game.

668
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: Bro.

669
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: We say that to Jordan, Man say it to me.

670
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm right here telling jokes. Bro.

671
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 4: I did ship like that.

672
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 7: I dug myself in a hole every time I'd be

673
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 7: wearing Jordan shit like Jordan had like real special, like

674
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 7: he had a store. It was Jordan's had his restaurant

675
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 7: and there was T shirts you could only get from that,

676
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 7: so I would buy these exclusive. So I had one

677
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 7: where He's a cyborg Jordan the Greatest, And I came

678
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 7: off stage with that ship in Brooklyn other Brooklyn I went.

679
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 7: I think I went up after Chappelle or DC Betty

680
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 7: went up. There was like, he'll fuck Chicago.

681
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: I go, You're losing.

682
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 4: It does no good. Jordan's still going to score fifty.

683
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 7: You you being mad here and this comedy show is

684
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 7: going to do You're no good, my friend, he was

685
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 7: still score fifty. Did you know the only reason why

686
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 7: you're in Madison Square Garden is for Michael Joey exactly?

687
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: Don't forget exactly go ahead.

688
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: Did you know in Chicago at that time, because that

689
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: list you just named off coming, this is all Bernie Mack.

690
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 7: Bernie Mack was like the guy and my boy, Evan Lionel. Evan,

691
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 7: my big brother, is the one that got Bernie had

692
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 7: hooked Bernie up. People don't know Evan. Evan's like this

693
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 7: old Chicago dude, my big brother who started like the

694
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 7: black comedy circuit when he was in college and just

695
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 7: put he was the first guy to put money in

696
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 7: our pockets. And he's the one that brought Bernie into

697
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 7: the scene. He got footage on Bernie doing open mics. Wow,

698
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 7: he got shit on Bernie doing open mics. I've seen

699
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 7: it wo when Bernie wasn't rich, when Bernie was just

700
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 7: funny with his little glasses and shit some.

701
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: Of them a bitch fuck you. Yeah.

702
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, he got footage on all of us when we

703
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 7: first started. Evan Lionel remember that name. He's the one

704
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 7: that stopped Bernie from a life of crime. He's the

705
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 7: one that went to high school with Bernie, Chicago Vocational

706
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 7: High School.

707
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: Bernard McCullum. You know what I mean.

708
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 4: He said, Bernie, Man, come do my shows. Do that

709
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 4: You're talented. That's the dude. We need to talk about.

710
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 4: Evan Lionel for real. He brought us all into that,

711
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

712
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 7: He's still in LA and anytime Chicago, Chicago, anything that

713
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 7: happens with Chicago, we always let him know why I'm

714
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 7: in town. You know, he looks out for Chicago shit.

715
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 7: So deray, all of us came through there. I saw everybody. D. L.

716
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 7: Hugley came through the everybody. Then we had a club

717
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: call All Jokes Aside, which was all black comedy club

718
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 7: for like seven years, and it was all black, and

719
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 7: it wasn't Black Knight at a white establishment because most

720
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 7: of the Black Knights at a mainstream.

721
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: Establishing Urban Knight.

722
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: I'm sorry the.

723
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 7: Rough Nights economically, but what's your dream. The funny is

724
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 7: the urban Knights are what keeps the clubs open. Absolutely

725
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 7: they make the most money, but they won't say anything

726
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 7: about that because and and what's funny is most of

727
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 7: the African American headliners are the reasons why a lot

728
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 7: of these comedy clubs survive.

729
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: It isn't the white ones.

730
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 7: It isn't the like it's like the black ones always

731
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 7: kept ship going because the urban Knights made more. It

732
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 7: was packed because it was like, oh this is all night,

733
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 7: you know, and yeah, that's that's where that's where I

734
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 7: came from watching all of the Mark Curry.

735
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: I just watched all the greats come through there, man,

736
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: like it was like holy shit.

737
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 10: No yet.

738
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: I didn't have much service and the Wi Fi was

739
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: down where I was at, so there was only a

740
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: few times I could see what was pissing everyone off

741
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: per hour, but I did, but I did see Complex.

742
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: Anytime Complex puts any list out, you know, the timeline

743
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: is gonna melt. Everyone's gonna stop what they're doing on

744
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: a Saturday, say fuck their kids, fuck.

745
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: The plans they had.

746
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: We need to argue about what Complex has to say,

747
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: even if it is a third party writer ten ninety nine,

748
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: that doesn't even work.

749
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: Does anyone even work at Complex anymore?

750
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: I think it's bots that just make They just do

751
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: a AI generated lit like what would piss the time chae?

752
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: What would piss the timeline off? Like?

753
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: Just leave tupac off exactly. That's what chatchubt sput up. Well,

754
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: to be fair, Pak is not from LA, which we'll

755
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: get there. Yeah, Complex Best LA Rappers of All Time list.

756
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is going to start the

757
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: city by city thing that we're gonna get for the

758
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: rest of the year, but I'm not mad at them.

759
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: Start with LA. We'll just go through the top five

760
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: real quick.

761
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 5: Well, the funny thing go ahead, because this is the

762
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: top fifty LA rappers, right, Yes, a lot of these

763
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 5: rappers are not from LA. They're from California, but they're

764
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 5: not from Los Angeles. Okay, how we you know what

765
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 5: I mean? I guess that's when I saw the list out,

766
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 5: Like I looked at it. I was like, Okay, but

767
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 5: this is from LA. A lot of these guys are

768
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 5: not from LA. I Snoop us from Long Beach, Kendrick

769
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: is from Compton, you know what I mean.

770
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: It's kind of like where we Okay, I see what

771
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: you're saying.

772
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: But if they did the Greatest New York City Rappers

773
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: of all time and Jadakiss was on the list, I

774
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: wouldn't be like, no, he's from Yonkers. I wouldn't say

775
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: that he's still New York City rapper. Long Beach is

776
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: still I understand that those are not in the LA County,

777
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: or maybe it is LA County, but it's not a

778
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: Los Angeles address. Compton is its own city, Long Beach

779
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: is its own city. It's still the LA Greater area.

780
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: Like I mean, I just know people from from these

781
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: places that they've had these same They like, Yo, that's

782
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: we're not LA. This is that's not LA. He's not

783
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 5: from LA. Okay, they're saying this like he's not from LA.

784
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: He's not from LA. They where he's from. They don't

785
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 5: even fuck with La. Like it's a lot of that going.

786
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: On, of course, and I get that politics, especially with

787
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: La of any other city, but not even to get

788
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: on the Amoretta shit. But like, if they were to

789
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: do the best rappers from Atlanta, Andre three thousand can't

790
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: be on it now because he's technically not from Atlanta.

791
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: Well that's why you go best rappers from California.

792
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 3: You got that now.

793
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: But then that's insane because you're getting into the Bay

794
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: Like that's a big California is like the third biggest state.

795
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

796
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: Uh okay, yeah, I'm not I'm not hearing nitpick, but

797
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 5: I'm just you know, it was reading the timeline and

798
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 5: seeing what people were saying, that's all.

799
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: Like, if we can't have rock him on the Greatest

800
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: New York City Rappers, why wouldn't you He's from Long

801
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: Island exactly, that's New York though it would be the

802
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: New York City, it wouldn't be New York City, it

803
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: would be New York. Oh then if we're get in

804
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: New York State, then we have to put in Griselda there. Yeah, okay,

805
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: not cool. So we just state by state you would do,

806
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: I would just do the whole New York. Okay, No,

807
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: I'm not stay in New York fair enough.

808
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 13: Some niggas from Binghamton who'll get it.

809
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 5: In for sure, from Binghamton, like rapping get it in.

810
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: She's not talking about rapp Okay, flood, Who's who's rapping

811
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: from Binghamton?

812
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: Like I missed that whole that movement.

813
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 13: I'm just saying, you know, we get Rory's point, though,

814
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 13: I was.

815
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: More so on the side of the rappers that are

816
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: straight up not from the LA area period. Okay, So

817
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: we'll get at least to the top five, and then

818
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: from there I think it brings up immediately somebody that's

819
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: really not so at number one is Kendrick Lamar, number two,

820
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg three, ice Q four, Doctor Dre five, Tyler,

821
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 2: Creators six, DJ Quick seven, iced T eight, b Real nine,

822
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: Easy E Tennifcy hustle out the gate. To your point, Mare,

823
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: I know Iced Tea very much made his career on

824
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 2: the West Coast. It is a representation of the West Coast.

825
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: He's from Norton, New Jersey.

826
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: M hm.

827
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 14: He would be iced Tea would be from Newark, New Jersey.

828
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 14: Why do you say that because he acts like he's

829
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 14: from Flort, New Jersey. That makes so much fucking sense.

830
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 3: Is he likes white girls? No, not just that because

831
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: he pimps out white.

832
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 13: Girls because of the type of you know, we love

833
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 13: Coco of course.

834
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the top ten outside of

835
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: the regional debate between iced Ta and Newark, New Jersey.

836
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

837
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 5: I just think having Game not in the top ten

838
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 5: is blasphemy. I completely agree with you, you know, Dennis,

839
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 5: the more I look through the list, who would you

840
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 5: replace them with a game?

841
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 13: Yeah?

842
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I think Game can be in the top.

843
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 13: Who would you replace him in the top five?

844
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm fine with Tyler going down to six if I'm

845
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: keeping their order and just bumping where games should be.

846
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the top five if it's no

847
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: matter the order. Kendrick Snoop ice Cube, Doctor Dre Game.

848
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: I think that is a very fair, fair top five.

849
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 3: Okay, before we do that, what is the criteria?

850
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 5: We're just talking.

851
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: It's complex, so you never get one.

852
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 5: Okay, So we don't know what the criteria is.

853
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: Because as much as I hate beatots list, at least

854
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: he puts a criteria at the bottom and says it's

855
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: because of these things. Complex is just throws shit out

856
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: and makes us all argue without any context, no context,

857
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: and complex is what happens every.

858
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: Time they know that we're gonna do what we're doing

859
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: on our platform and dissect this list and keep saying

860
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 5: complex over and over and over.

861
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 14: Exactly, we stuck to three core principles when sorting our ranking.

862
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 14: This is coming from complex skill as a hip hop artist,

863
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 14: strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence. They

864
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 14: say by skill they mean the entire rat package, delivery, presence,

865
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 14: pen game, overall artistry. They're focusing strictly on rappers, so

866
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 14: while artists like Nate dogget Ti, Dallas and an iconic

867
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 14: LA artists their fundamentally singers, not rappers, So hip hop skill,

868
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 14: strength of a catalog, commercial impact, and lasting influence.

869
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: If you're focusing just on rappers and skill, then is

870
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Doctor dre An Easy allowed on the list as they

871
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: do not write their own raps and have both admitted that,

872
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: and it's like I'm fine with it, I'm I don't

873
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 2: really care. They made incredible music and are the two

874
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: probably biggest icons in the LA rap scene. Ever, but

875
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: if you're going off skill of rapping, off their criteria,

876
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: not mine. Well, but doctor dre and Easy, are they

877
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: allowed to be on the list.

878
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 14: Yes, because they explain that by skill they mean the

879
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 14: entire rap package, delivery, presence, pen, game, and overall artistry.

880
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 13: It takes more to be a rapper than But if.

881
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: You're you're taking out one complete pillar where every other

882
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: person on this game is the biggest that's.

883
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Artists on here would cover every single pillar period those two.

884
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: An entire pillar is gone, yeah, gone gone?

885
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: And the pillar if the pen is the pillar. Like

886
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: as a rapper, that's what you have. You have your

887
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 5: pen as your sword.

888
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 2: Like if you want to talk about the two most

889
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 2: important people in LA rap history dre and Easy, And

890
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that, But if you're going off that criteria,

891
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if doctor Dreyan Easy you are allowed

892
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: on this list.

893
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 13: I think they're allowed on the list. I just don't

894
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 13: think they should be as.

895
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: Far up game.

896
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: Not in the top ten is crazy. I mean that's

897
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 5: that's to me.

898
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: We could just talk about that, Hey, take out the

899
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: pillar shit and it should be Kendrick snoop icequ dre

900
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: and Game for sure.

901
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 13: I don't know LA politics. I'm not from over there.

902
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: Is there? Just like, do they hate Game?

903
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 14: Because I feel like he's so disrespected by LA but

904
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 14: so uplifted by New York in other places.

905
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 13: So that's why is it a thing?

906
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: Or I mean Game, I wouldn't ever discredit what he

907
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: was doing in the Bay and in LA before he

908
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: broke with G Unit. But I mean why I think

909
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: Jimmy even put him with G Unit outside of Gunit

910
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: being on fire at the time.

911
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: Is that he sounded and rapped like he was from

912
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 3: New York.

913
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: Of course he sounds like he's from LA, don't get

914
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: me wrong, the way his delivery and lyrical content when

915
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: he was on clue tapes, If he didn't constantly say

916
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: where he was from, I wouldn't immediately believe that he

917
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 2: wasn't from New York. I think he's even talked about

918
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: that he rapped like he was from New York, and

919
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 2: I think that's probably why we all gravitated to him

920
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: so much. And I think the record that made him

921
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 2: pop per se was what the Jim Jones certified G's

922
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: or whatever, which I mean has yeah, yeah, which has

923
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: LA aspects. But he was with Jim Jones when the

924
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: world was really introduced to him, not just LA. So

925
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: I think New York has always had a better appreciation

926
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: for Game than maybe the rest of the country.

927
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 13: But I hear you.

928
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 14: But if that's the case, then Tyler the creator doesn't

929
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 14: always sound like he's an LA artist. He does sound

930
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 14: like he's an LA artist, but he doesn't always sound

931
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 14: like he he He definitely led.

932
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: The newer generation of LA. They call it weird.

933
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call it weird, but that separate, like this

934
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: isn't the stereotypical LA scene. He led that for sure,

935
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: which is where you get some of the new scene now.

936
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: But Game at the time, LA had been non existent

937
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: for quite some time. Game single handedly brought the West

938
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: Coast back and put a bunch of people on this list,

939
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 2: including the number one artist on their first mixtape on

940
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 2: their first tour, Nipsey everyone Like. Game not only did

941
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: that shit by himself, he brought a bunch of people

942
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: with him. He wasn't on some selfish it's just me

943
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: Like I remember Game mixtape shit when kay Dot was

944
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: on it. He was meeting with top with the j

945
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: rock shit like Game. If he's not top five The

946
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: only other way he could be was higher. Yeah, Vince

947
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: State was an.

948
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 5: M betweenty three is pissing me off. Let me just

949
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: go ahead and say it. He needs to be a

950
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 5: lot higher.

951
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: Say the pillars again.

952
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 14: The pillars are skill like total skill, strength of a catalog,

953
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 14: commercial impact, and lasting influence.

954
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 13: And I think number three might be.

955
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: The commercial impact.

956
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 13: Yeah, might be what's keeping him?

957
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: Who has all right, look at the people ahead of

958
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 5: Vince and who has more commercial impact than him, who

959
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 5: has a better catalog in.

960
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: Him catalog is you're gonna be tough? Yeah, school Boy

961
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: does have a great catalog.

962
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 3: YG does.

963
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Dom Kennedy. He's not above Vince Staples.

964
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Some could argue with commercial appeal and Vince Stables Tom

965
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: has a great catalog.

966
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 5: Vince Staples has a great catalog, and he has an

967
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 5: adult flick show fair that's not commercial.

968
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: But they're focusing on the rabbit.

969
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 5: Come on, man, Vince needs to be high in that.

970
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: I appreciate Nipsey being at ten outside of him just

971
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: being above the game, which is kind of nice. If

972
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: Nipsey does not pass, is he at number ten? Lasting influence?

973
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: I fully understandless deal with what's standible. I mean over

974
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: game is insanity, but even over YG game, Nipsey respectfully, Yeah,

975
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: I got to go to LA in a couple of days.

976
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: I'm not suggesting that Nipsey does not belong on this

977
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: list whatsoever. He has hit every criteria there. But I

978
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: don't know if against YG with everything, if that, if

979
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: we're going off what they said, not off what the

980
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 2: allure of everything is to the public.

981
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 14: So we've had this conversation before when people say that

982
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 14: j Z wouldn't be ja Z if Biggie had never died.

983
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 14: But we'll never know because Biggie died, right, So we'll

984
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 14: never know if people would have if the mass majority

985
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 14: of America would have noticed how talented Nipsey was because

986
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 14: he was severely underrated before he passed, they wouldn't have.

987
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 14: We don't know if they would have eventually figured that out.

988
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 14: They could have eventually figured that out. He could have

989
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 14: had a hit that went off, everybody went back to

990
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 14: his catalog and said, oh my god, Nipsey has been

991
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 14: one of the greatest for so long. That could have happened,

992
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 14: or he could have continued to be underrated. We will

993
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 14: never know because he did die.

994
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: Of course, and let me be clear, I think the

995
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: Victory Lap album was the one that was going to

996
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 2: start his rise. I think that's when he finally got

997
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: the recognition, commercial recognition that he deserved. He was about

998
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: to be the intro of a Kalide album. Like Yeah,

999
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: Nipsey was on his way for sure. I'm not saying

1000
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: because he passed, that's when everyone started to give a fuck.

1001
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying that whatsoever. But over somebody like

1002
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: Game and YG by those criterias is a little crazy

1003
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: to me, even school Boy, if we're going to get

1004
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: into it. As far as the older acts, I saw

1005
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Punch tweet something I wish they do it in eras.

1006
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: I agree with him because it is very tough to

1007
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 2: compare Corrupt to Vince Staples. It's just completely different times

1008
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: and like it's it's odd. I don't even know how

1009
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: you would go about this. I also don't even know

1010
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: how you put a list like this together to begin with.

1011
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 5: But you know, chat GBT, chat GBT, you know how

1012
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 5: to put it together.

1013
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: Man, if we're going off skill alone, the fact that

1014
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: Blue is at forty nine is insane. The fact that

1015
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Crooked Eyes at forty six is nuts.

1016
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: Will I am.

1017
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: I think most of his impact did not come from

1018
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: anything RAP related whatsoever.

1019
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: I thought ras cast was from the Bay. I don't know.

1020
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 5: I could be wrong. I don't know what they're doing.

1021
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: With this list.

1022
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: Dragiel ruler for impact. Everyone in LA raps like him.

1023
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: You could make a case that he could be a

1024
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: little higher when it comes to impact.

1025
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 13: L A gonna kick our ass because they probably gonna

1026
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 13: be like, no, you're wrong.

1027
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: You're fucking wrong.

1028
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: All of LA was saying they were wrong. I mean shit,

1029
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: Game Game included then Game put his own list together.

1030
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 2: Game did put his own list together, which is such

1031
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: a game thing to do. And I appreciate when Game

1032
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: does stuff like that.

1033
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 5: They got Game outside the top ten, which is crazy.

1034
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't.

1035
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 14: And that's what I'm saying, Like it feels disrespectful. And

1036
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 14: that's why I'm wondering if there's like an underlying issue before.

1037
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: We get to games. Is it weird that Tupac is

1038
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: left off when people like Iced Tea corrupt who's from

1039
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: Philly but of course moved to LA and that's where

1040
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 2: he made his career. Exhibit is from like Detroit, New Mexico,

1041
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: like literally not from La whatsoever from Albuquerque, Like when

1042
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: you have people like that on there, but then say

1043
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: Tupac isn't there, I can see why that would upset people,

1044
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: even though Tupac maybe lived in LA for like form,

1045
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 2: I think I've lived in LA longer than Tupac did,

1046
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: like I've stayed at the Mandrian longer, and I always

1047
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 2: felt like Tupac if he was claiming the West Coast

1048
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 2: was more of the Bay than he was Los Angeles.

1049
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 14: So they talked about as well, and in the article

1050
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 14: they say that this putting together putting this list together

1051
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 14: wasn't easy. La as a transplant town. So what qualifies

1052
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 14: someone as an LA rapper? They said, for this list,

1053
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 14: it's an artist who creatively came to life in the

1054
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 14: city and reflects its ethos and their music.

1055
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 13: That's why some big names didn't make the cut.

1056
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 14: Tupac may seem like an LA rapper, but he only

1057
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 14: lived in the city for a couple of months. Although

1058
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 14: he had some big hits under the deth Ro banner,

1059
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 14: he was a fully formed, platinum selling artist by the

1060
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 14: time California Love came out. So I think why they

1061
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 14: left some transplants on there and not Tupac. Is it

1062
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 14: because is because Tupac was already a fully formed artist

1063
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 14: before he moved to LA whereas the rest of them

1064
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 14: came up in LA.

1065
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's fair, not terribly mad at that.

1066
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: And again, if it was California, I'd be fine with

1067
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Pac there because he spent so much time in the

1068
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,879
Speaker 2: Bay and that's where he started his rap career for real,

1069
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 2: was in Oakland, Yeah, Marine County.

1070
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: So all right, I'm not mad at.

1071
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 5: The left off the list. Why his first rap name

1072
00:51:58,840 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: was MC new York.

1073
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: That's true.

1074
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 5: You can't have a rap on your top l a

1075
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 5: list of all time and his first rap name was

1076
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: MC new York.

1077
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: Okay, but all right, it can't do that just because

1078
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: you had a nickname. Like what find me the vinyl

1079
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: press of the MC new York record? Like, yeah, that

1080
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 2: was a thing he said somebody. He said that in

1081
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: his head when he got to Baltimore. Like, that doesn't

1082
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 2: mean that was your rap name. I mean you can't

1083
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: find an EMC New York song.

1084
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 5: So now you're saying, now you're telling Tupac what his

1085
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 5: rap name was. See, that's what you white people do history,

1086
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 5: no matter what, even when we're telling you.

1087
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: I fully, fully disagreed with what his mother was doing

1088
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: and everything.

1089
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: Like I'm just saying he said his rap name was

1090
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 5: MC New York.

1091
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can have a name because you can't

1092
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 3: find a vinyl with two because he didn't recording music

1093
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: under that exactly what I'm just saying.

1094
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 5: That maybe that might be what Complex was, Like, Nah,

1095
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 5: we can't do.

1096
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 2: That, Okay, but based off what they're saying about exhibit Corrupt, Yes,

1097
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: those guys moved to LA and that is what started

1098
00:52:59,560 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: their rap.

1099
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure Corrupt was rapping.

1100
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: When he was in Philly when he was a kid,

1101
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: but you can't find those So I'm fine with that criteria.

1102
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: Tupac got to the Bay, got with Digital Underground and

1103
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: was Tupac. He wasn't EMC New York with Digital Underground,

1104
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: he was Tupac. So I don't think it's because that

1105
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: was his name. I think it was because he really,

1106
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: honestly spent like six months in LA. He wasn't like

1107
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: really there.

1108
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 5: He was with a gang from there, So where is

1109
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 5: he from?

1110
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: I think Pawk is one of those hybrids that just

1111
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: moved around. That's one of those people you can't really

1112
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: say where they were from. I think that's why he

1113
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: like not not like click hopped, but he did.

1114
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah don't.

1115
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever really had a place that

1116
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: he could call home. That's why he rode for death

1117
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 2: Row so much, because he finally found a group of

1118
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 2: people that he could like also had his back. He

1119
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 2: went from New York to Baltimore, to fucking Marin, to Oakland,

1120
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 2: then to jail, then the fucking l A and in Vegas.

1121
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: I think that was just his mentality was with different

1122
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: gangs like he just he never had a place that

1123
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: he could call home.

1124
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 5: I mean, these lists are always interesting though, because you know,

1125
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 5: just just just hearing the conversations going on around the

1126
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 5: people that's on people that maybe should have been on there.

1127
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 5: Ah trump Is the song is hard, Yeah, that ship

1128
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 5: pretty for the production is crazy. That's one of those

1129
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 5: I want to hear, Like, I want to hear a

1130
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: few rappers take that and do something to that.

1131
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be if this was still the freestyle era,

1132
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 2: there'd be twenty radio freestyles right now over that ship.

1133
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 13: They've been asking us to get on it.

1134
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 5: Who's us?

1135
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 13: Me and Rory?

1136
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 5: Who's asking for that? Whose days you gotta stop saying

1137
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 5: it new hurry of moment.

1138
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 14: Nobody play off of our back that we did when

1139
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 14: we immercenated, when we impersonated push Up. They've been asking

1140
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 14: for us to jump on so Rory, we gotta we

1141
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 14: gotta do that this week. Yeah, Ballerina's doing perrottas my

1142
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 14: snow globe is something I would have said.

1143
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 5: There's not nothing you would have said. There's absolutely nothing

1144
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 5: You've never said that. You've never said nothing close to that.

1145
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: When I heard When I heard nas Rewind, I was like, oh,

1146
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: I would have done that too. No, when talking about

1147
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: you never said anything I would have. I would have

1148
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 3: approached the p s A beat the same way.

1149
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 13: J He like what I'm just saying, That's something I

1150
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 13: would have said.

1151
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: That bar is crazy. Malice went fucking off on this record.

1152
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 14: Niggas is my son said. That's not repeat. Definitely something

1153
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 14: I would have said. But yeah, Malice went crazy and

1154
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 14: he didn't cursey his entire time. He's bringing real hip

1155
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 14: hop back, Real hip hop.

1156
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 5: Okay hit.

1157
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 2: I feel like they even cursed the rappers the like

1158
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: only only Will Smith didn't curse in his reps Broken

1159
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: Vals everywhere. That's explicit content for sure. Yeah, no, that

1160
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: was crazy talking about snow Globe shit too.

1161
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 3: For sure.

1162
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: I really loved the record. I was a little nervous

1163
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: with the whole Chad and Pharrell thing. Of course, we

1164
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: know Farrell has produced plenty of shit by himself, but

1165
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: that was a thing coming up to this, Like, all right,

1166
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 2: we're getting a Farrell produced Clips album again, but there

1167
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: is no Chad involved in this.

1168
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: I'm not mad so far. He's one.

1169
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 2: For one, Farrell is probably the best. Him and Swizz

1170
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: are the best at making the most simplistic beats sound incredible.

1171
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, this, No, the production on this on this record

1172
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 5: is incredible.

1173
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: Like, I like this record a lot, like the approach

1174
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: and pockets that they both picked. I'm really really excited

1175
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: for this album.

1176
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 13: What's your favorite uh, lyric? Are your favorite bar?

1177
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: It's the snow Globe shit for sure. But the Ali

1178
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 2: Baba to the Lady Gaga ship was insane to me too.

1179
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 5: I mean it's people on line to say malice he

1180
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 5: got pushed on this one, but.

1181
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: That's not I mean, Push got way better posts the

1182
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: Clips with his solo career.

1183
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 13: Malice was always let's not act like.

1184
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: Back in the day, no one was ever discrediting Push

1185
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: as a but Malice was always like the one Push

1186
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: would get him a few times. But I feel like

1187
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 2: Pushes even admitted that his brother was the better rapper.

1188
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 2: Push just got much better with his solo career. So

1189
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see this one. But I feel

1190
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: like Malice got pushed on his last solo project. Malice

1191
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: Versus was one of my favorite verses of that year.

1192
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty two or whatever, Malice is malice though,

1193
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: like no.

1194
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 5: No, no, listen, I'm very aware of The Clips, one

1195
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: of my favorite groups, and this you know production with Pharrell.

1196
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 5: It's definitely you know, it's good to see them still

1197
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 5: working together. And then the thing I'm most suppressed of

1198
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 5: is how long they've been at it and how good

1199
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: they still sound like that's it to me. That's like,

1200
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 5: you know, when you say this rapp is a young

1201
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 5: man's sport to a degree, yes, but when you have

1202
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: you know, the Clips and Pharrell still able to deliver

1203
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: and give us joints that sound like this, it ain't

1204
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: no to me. It's no really, it's no, young no

1205
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 5: Wyans can't give us this sound, They can't give us

1206
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: this talk. They can't. They're not even this clever or

1207
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 5: this this witty in their in their bars and the

1208
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 5: entendres and things like that, Like this is the type

1209
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 5: of rap that you know, a certain sector I think

1210
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 5: appreciates in the community.

1211
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 13: You gotta learn how to read. You got to learn

1212
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 13: how to read. You got to learn how to travel,

1213
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 13: and you got.

1214
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 5: To learn how to travel, drug deal learn how to know.

1215
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 14: But this isn't I'm talking about rapping. It's not just

1216
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 14: about they're not just rapping about drugs. They had to

1217
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 14: have read books, seeing things, experience things for your vocabulary

1218
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 14: to open up. This why for you to be able

1219
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 14: to make references about things from other countries. And yeah,

1220
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 14: you gotta travel, you gotta make money, you gotta read

1221
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 14: and even if you don't have the money, you gotta

1222
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 14: read about the places that you can't travel.

1223
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 13: Reading is fundamental. And these new rappers don't read.

1224
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 5: They can't read read, they can't even talk.

1225
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: Have you heard some of these new artists, like in

1226
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 3: the interview.

1227
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 5: Yo, you feel me, feel me, feel me, feel me,

1228
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 5: feel me, feel me, feel me.

1229
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: Nigga, No, I can't feel a thing.

1230
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 5: Film me, feel me, fil me, feel me feel me?

1231
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 5: Bro Yo, bro, Bro, this is a female you're sitting

1232
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 5: across from. It's a woman. You know, film me, bro, bro, Bro, Bro,

1233
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Bro Bro, I mean time,

1234
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 5: what time? Get your dumb ass up and shut up.

1235
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 13: But that's because there there on the drug drugs. They're

1236
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 13: not selling the drugs.

1237
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 5: They're on drugs. They're selling drugs. They're on the drugs

1238
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 5: and they're selling more.

1239
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: They selling the.

1240
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 14: Drugs today, friends their friends selling them back. They just

1241
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 14: doing like drug fucking switches, drug musical chairs, drug musical chairs.

1242
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 3: Like let me hold that pill just sold, same way?

1243
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: Can I that chain for this video? Let me let

1244
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: me get just to the perks.

1245
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: Now, give me those two perks that just sold you.

1246
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: And I mean, labels don't even have the staff to

1247
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: do media training that's been done. Everyone that used to

1248
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: get FAB a lot of bullshit. Fab wasnt media training.

1249
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: He's not good at interviews. The FAB smokes looks like

1250
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Einstein compared to it's bad.

1251
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 5: It's bad like they I'm talking about.

1252
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 3: He's Neil de grass Tyson compared to this.

1253
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, like these these these new artists, these young a

1254
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 5: lot of these young casts. They I mean, it's just like,

1255
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 5: my god, like you can't even hold a conversation. It's sad,

1256
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 5: but you know it's good to hit the clip still

1257
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 5: in shape. I'm looking forward to hearing what else they

1258
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 5: got on this project. If it sounds anything like this

1259
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: Ace trump is joint, then you know this is gonna

1260
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 5: be a good listen for me. Like I appreciate this

1261
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 5: type of nostalgia and this type of this type of

1262
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 5: attention to detail when you talk about rapping.

1263
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: I appreciate this, and I feel like Push, Malice and

1264
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 2: Ross even though there's a million on tendras in this

1265
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: Ace of Trumpets record, those three rappers, to me, are

1266
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: the best at saying very simple things and delivering it

1267
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: in a way that sounds so amazing. Soho shopping Spring

1268
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: you should have seen it. It's not even that crazy,

1269
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: but I was. I'm like, I was just on Broadway.

1270
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: How I missed that shit? You should have seen it?

1271
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 2: How do you deliver it that good? Like as be

1272
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: saying some really basic shit, but it sounds better than

1273
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 2: all of your favorite rappers when they do complex shit. Pusher,

1274
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: Malice and Ross are masters at this type of shit.

1275
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: The very simple delivery.

1276
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: You catch every word you may not catch the endra,

1277
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: but you catch every single syllable word.

1278
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: It all sounds amazing.

1279
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 5: The delivery and rap is very important.

1280
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: Like push as an elite MC. Still where were you

1281
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: and big niche brought the tigers? Like he has more

1282
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: memorable stuff like that on top of his entendres that

1283
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: separates him to me from everyone else. Like they not

1284
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: doing rappy rap rap rap. They found a very specific

1285
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: fun fun pocket, a fun pocket that a lot of

1286
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: people could fuck up like that could get tiresome for

1287
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 2: thirty two bars.

1288
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 3: They are masters at that type of shit.

1289
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 14: But see that's why going back rosses to it that

1290
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 14: going back to when we were talking about our complex

1291
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 14: list and they said skill and the majority of the

1292
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 14: pillars of skill only one of them was actual pen.

1293
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 14: The rest of it was delivery. The way that you

1294
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 14: break it down, like that's a very very important thing.

1295
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: Easy as one of the best deliveries ever. Even Dre's

1296
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: delivery is incredible. That fucking the horrible line if if

1297
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: I slipped, and I slipped and I'm slipping, I'm still slipping,

1298
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: awful fucking bar delivered incredibly that.

1299
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 5: Ship hit back in the day. Still it's not And

1300
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 5: if I got my Nina and then you know shit,

1301
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna continue to put the down, put the mac.

1302
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 3: Down, snoops fan was crazy.

1303
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 7: Shit.

1304
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: I did see we spoke last episode that there was

1305
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,919
Speaker 2: rumblings about Kendrick Verse from before and then we thought

1306
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 2: because of the rock Nation situation that they may have

1307
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 2: a jay Z Verse. I saw that stove God tweeted

1308
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: that he is on the album. We know there's only

1309
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: two features, so I do not think we're getting a

1310
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 2: jay Z feature on this. I believe it is stove God,

1311
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: which is confirmed, and I think that Kendrick feature from

1312
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: Chains and Whips when they did the Lousvitan fashion show that,

1313
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: like Jim Jones dis that was the one that Kendrick

1314
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: was rumored to be on, and then we never heard

1315
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: anything from it. Push a t went and did an

1316
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 2: interview and said that they wanted to put this out

1317
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: last year, but when they brought it to Death Jam,

1318
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: this was right after the Drake and Kendrick beef and

1319
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: they wanted Kendrick to more or less censor his verse

1320
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 2: because of everything that was going on. Push said fuck

1321
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: that they got into some legality shit, which led to

1322
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 2: the clips getting off Deaf Jam as well as push

1323
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: a t getting off deaf Jam. Oh wow, because of

1324
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: this entire thing, and they were able to shop it

1325
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: around and that's why there was a delay. Now, I'm

1326
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: sure there's always a bunch of different things behind the

1327
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: scenes that added to this, but that is kind of

1328
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: fucking insane. Yeah, And according to push or this article,

1329
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 2: I believe the bar isn't even that crazy. From Kendrick

1330
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: therapy taught me how to open up. It also showed

1331
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: me I don't give a up. I don't think it

1332
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: was the bars per se that they wanted to censor.

1333
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: I think it was def Jam saying Drake's two biggest

1334
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 2: ops are coming together at this exact time to put

1335
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: a record out, which kind of I don't know. Do

1336
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: you think it contradicts or helps the lawsuit that Drake

1337
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 2: is going through.

1338
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: Why would it contradict it or help it that?

1339
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: I guess this would be proof that they were aware

1340
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: of his brand and also wanted to protect it in

1341
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: the midst of this entire thing which could go against it,

1342
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: but couldn't a lawyer also prove that they were very

1343
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: much aware when they said that they support both of

1344
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: their artists and they would never stop an artist from

1345
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: doing anything. This does contradict what Universal said already. Sure,

1346
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: it does prove what Drake's lawyers were saying. And UMG

1347
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 2: was like, what, we would never that's crazy. We would

1348
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,479
Speaker 2: never get behind in ours. We don't treat any artist

1349
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 2: with any type of special privileges or anything. But even

1350
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: though this is on Drake's side, it still is proving

1351
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 2: that that does happen.

1352
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we know that even if this didn't it,

1353
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 5: this never came out of push, It never made any

1354
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 5: mention of this happen, and we know that that does happen.

1355
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 5: I just I don't know that.

1356
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 2: Pushing to me is not a liar. I just think

1357
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: there has to be more to this than just this sentence.

1358
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Because why after a record that calls somebody on your

1359
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 2: label that word, would you be upset about or try

1360
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: to block a clips in Kendrick's song that doesn't talk

1361
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 2: about Drake whatsoever?

1362
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 3: Like the damage was done? This would this wasn't gonna

1363
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: do anything? What was the bar? The only bar that

1364
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: they mentioned?

1365
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: All right, I'll def jamsparen Comy, UMG said the optics

1366
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: of two of Drake's biggest enemies linking on wax Push

1367
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 2: calls their apprehension stupid, primarily because none of the bars

1368
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 2: and Kendricks otherwise excellent verse could be perceived as a

1369
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: shot or even a sub. It does, however, contain the

1370
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: stellar line. Therapy taught me how to open up. It

1371
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 2: also showed me I don't give.

1372
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: A fuck.

1373
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 5: What that's fucking stupid, push Up.

1374
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 2: I actually love the writing this push it can barely

1375
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: contain his disgust, recounting the stalemate with def Jam. They

1376
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: wanted me to ask Kendrick to censor his verse, which

1377
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 2: of course I was never doing, and then they wanted

1378
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: me to take the record off, and so after a

1379
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: month of not doing so, their lawyer said, well, we'll

1380
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: drop the Clips, but they can't do that because I'm

1381
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: still there as a solo artist. If you let us

1382
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: all go, this is that an order? Sure enough, def

1383
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 2: Jam eventually agreed to release the Clips and drop Push

1384
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: as a solo artist, freeing the duo up to shop

1385
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: for a new home with a finished Clips album and

1386
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 2: plenty more music in their pockets.

1387
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was just uh, I mean, could

1388
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 5: it be a thing where they just felt like the

1389
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 5: song wasn't good?

1390
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: That chains and Whip song was Fire. It was premiered

1391
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: at the Lois Vuitton fashion show in Paris. That was

1392
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: the one that Jason Beyonce. You could see they was

1393
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,959
Speaker 2: writing lyrics in their head to it, like that record

1394
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 2: is fire. It's like leak now that not you know,

1395
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: the highest version of it, but you can listen to

1396
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 2: it on YouTube now. And it was rumors at that

1397
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 2: time Kendrick was already on it. They just didn't play

1398
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: his verse in Paris. Now that record is that record

1399
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: isn't too five. I think that that's I don't. I

1400
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: don't understand any of that.

1401
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 5: I understand why why def Jam would even I mean,

1402
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 5: if he's not even mentioning Drake in the in the verse,

1403
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 5: why would you even ask push it to have it,

1404
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 5: to have Kendrick since it like, I don't.

1405
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 14: To me to assume no matter what, Because of the

1406
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 14: time it was coming out, people would assume everything in it.

1407
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 5: Okay, that's fine, people can assume whatever. But for the

1408
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 5: label to go to push it and say, yo, like

1409
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 5: tell Kendrick not.

1410
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 7: What like that?

1411
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: Just to me, that's just okay conspiracy. Did they already

1412
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: have some type of worry that Drake was going to

1413
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 2: sue them or heard rumblings after the beef that that

1414
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: would happen, and now they're trying to cover their ass

1415
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: because this would be another point, not to say it

1416
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: proves anything, but something you can put in the paperwork

1417
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: of these are two people that have said very disparaging

1418
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: things about me. You're now releasing a record they have

1419
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: together and putting money behind it. I could see Drake's lawyers.

1420
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 13: It could have been added as a little byline in

1421
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 13: the lawsuit.

1422
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: Not to say that that like really does anything, I

1423
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: think in Drake's lawsuit because it's like.

1424
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 3: They didn't say anything about him.

1425
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: But I think I don't know if does it add

1426
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 2: more fuel, Like I feel like major corporations, when there's

1427
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: a possibility they could even be sued down to like

1428
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 2: the smallest sample that could be debatable, they're gonna say

1429
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 2: no just to cover their ass, like legal teams do.

1430
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: They don't even want to hear the music. They don't

1431
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: even give a fuck about anything art related. They're just

1432
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 2: there to say no. So I could maybe see that

1433
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 2: being a thing because they were already heard possible litigation

1434
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 2: rumors of what was going on. It's like, we really

1435
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 2: can't do this even though I don't think that's really illegal, Matt, Yeah.

1436
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 5: I just I don't know that's you know, def Jam

1437
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: doing that is just that's just that seems a little weird.

1438
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 5: That's that's no, that's very weird. Actually not a little.

1439
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 5: That's very weird for them to approach push it and

1440
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 5: just doesn't make no sense, like especially if the line

1441
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 5: he's not talking about him, not going at him and

1442
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 5: any type. It just doesn't make any sense.

1443
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: I mean, but if that's the case, like amazing to

1444
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 3: get off the label that way.

1445
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 5: Oh no, I mean I'm sure you know they're happy

1446
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 5: about it, you know, like oh shit, like we basically

1447
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 5: got a free walk, like we're out of here. But

1448
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 5: it's just I don't know, it just doesn't make I

1449
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 5: feel like it's more to that story.

1450
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: That's just that That's what I'm saying.

1451
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying saying it's false. I just there has

1452
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: to be more, has to be more to that. It

1453
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: has to be That makes no sense to me, because.

1454
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 3: What are you censoring in the verse exactly, That's what

1455
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1456
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 5: It just like I don't know, maybe he's just trying

1457
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 5: to not trying to really get into it and you

1458
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 5: know whatever. But that part of the story to me

1459
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 5: is it has to be more that that makes no sense.

1460
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean between Chains and Whips, I assume now

1461
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: that they're all def jam that song is definitely coming

1462
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: out with that Kendrick verse.

1463
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 3: And then we also have the stove Gode feature. So

1464
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: there's our two features.

1465
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 5: I think there was a I think there's another feature though.

1466
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 5: I think the feature you were alluding to what they

1467
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 5: were saying, Uh what Pushy was saying, He's waiting for

1468
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 5: the feature. M you saying that you think it's a

1469
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 5: whole feature. I think nads Okay, I think a NOAs.

1470
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 5: I think a NAS verse may be on this album.

1471
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 2: Well, they kind of alluded to it in this article

1472
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: as well. The label love what they heard, except for

1473
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 2: the Kendrick Lamar guest verse on Chains and Whips, the

1474
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 2: final version of the song that Frailties at his first

1475
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 2: LV Runway show. The song, Pushes says was the first

1476
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: to come out of their sessions. Don't be fooled by

1477
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,600
Speaker 2: Pushes interviews appealing for one last guest verse, and the

1478
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: twitter jokes that he went to a GNX toward day

1479
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: to physically walk Kendrick into the nearest studio. Katt's homework

1480
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 2: has been turned in for a while now, so I

1481
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 2: think that's still coming out, as is the changing whips thing.

1482
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And they said there was two features, so

1483
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: a nas one would be fire. But if they're sticking

1484
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 2: of that, I think we're only getting Stoven Kendrick.

1485
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 5: This Stove, God, that feature is gonna be because listen, man,

1486
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 5: it's not too many that could talk that, you know. Yeah,

1487
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 5: that went to talk that snow white talk like.

1488
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 13: Stove in like I am about to make a hundred

1489
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 13: thousand next, No.

1490
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 3: Now you want to Now you want to be Stove.

1491
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 5: Now you she's about to go We were calling her

1492
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 5: Stove missus stovey through she got mad.

1493
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 14: So that was her a like okay, because yeah, because

1494
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 14: y'all are making fun of Like it's funny when y'all

1495
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 14: do it from like people who aren't from my hometown,

1496
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 14: Like that's it's not funny.

1497
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 13: But yeah, I always support Stove. Were about to flip

1498
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 13: some ship.

1499
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 14: Boy, I'm about to make a hundred thousand, I swear

1500
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 14: to god, I'm about to go crazy. It's about to

1501
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 14: be the most motivated song of all time.

1502
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 5: But the I was doing what lashes. We'll do one

1503
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 5: hundred thousand.

1504
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: She's gonna date a drug dealer that buys her the

1505
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:06,719
Speaker 3: last spot.

1506
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 5: No, you know they can't wait to get that boy

1507
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 5: in my studio, pay my boo frint.

1508
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Push that he might date. I'll bench and yank or

1509
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: rib out. Push is gonna do everything for.

1510
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 3: Our girl.

1511
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 5: Day chap bitch and pull her rib out, yank.

1512
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 3: Or rib out, like buy her new body? You know?

1513
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 3: Like is that what that meant?

1514
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 2: That's how I interpreted, Yes, unless you thought more romantic.

1515
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 2: And he was suggesting like an Adam and Eves, like

1516
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: there she her rib now.

1517
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 13: Or she does so much coke that she just gives

1518
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 13: real skinny. But I think he meant surgery.

1519
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want that girl that does too much

1520
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 5: coke that she's skinny now.

1521
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 14: But were about to flip a brick. Why the head

1522
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 14: is crazy? Her back, her throat always numb.

1523
01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 5: And dry, cotton mouth. I'm cool this stove.

1524
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: God, buy a bitch some new hips and yank or

1525
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: rib out. Yeah, imagine pushed by by your chicks some hips.

1526
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 2: Then you come home and there's a rib on the counter.

1527
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 5: Get a body done it. Yeah, I'm looking forward to

1528
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 5: that Stove feature. Though I'm looking forward to that. I

1529
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 5: got to hear, I got to hear. The greasy talk

1530
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 5: on that stove is one of the few that I

1531
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 5: feel like probably when it comes to that type of talk,

1532
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 5: may be just a little slicker than pushing malage.

1533
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 13: Oh shit, that's that's you. Okay.

1534
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, if you go and listen to a reasonable drought,

1535
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 5: there's not many people that could. I was very impressed

1536
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 5: by Stove God on that entire project, like his his cleverness,

1537
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 5: his wittiness when it comes to that type of again,

1538
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 5: that that certain talk is. I'm not saying he did it,

1539
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 5: but he had to. He was in the house when

1540
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 5: it happened.

1541
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: He was.

1542
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not putting on him.

1543
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 11: I ain't.

1544
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 5: I'm not doing that because niggas is listening. I'm not

1545
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 5: saying he did anything, but he may have been around,

1546
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 5: because you can't just talk like that and not have

1547
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 5: been in close proximity.

1548
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the amount of like coke entendres we've heard

1549
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: of the last time the years. To be able to

1550
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: like really revive that genre takes a clever type of person.

1551
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: I feel like I've heard every coke bar on Earth

1552
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 2: and then reasonable Drought came out and I was like, oh, like.

1553
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 5: What he said, it's what you do after the brick bitch,

1554
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 5: I'm Draymon. Niggas don't even talk like. You can't even listen.

1555
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 3: Listen, listen.

1556
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 5: No, I'm being serious right now. I'm not even trying

1557
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 5: to cause no jokes, no laughs. It's what you do

1558
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 5: after the brick bitch, I'm Draymond. Niggas don't rat. They

1559
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: don't talk like that. You can't.

1560
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 3: These rappers are not even they they wi Fi, they bandwidth.

1561
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 5: Don't even let them go that to that, like, you

1562
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 5: don't even talk like that, Like that's to me, that

1563
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,520
Speaker 5: type of slick. You know, those lines is what separates

1564
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 5: Stole from everybody else. But to have him with guys

1565
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 5: like you know, Malice and Push who do that very well,

1566
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 5: it's just gonna be interesting to hear.

1567
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 3: And I need to know.

1568
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 5: Rappers etiquette. I need to know if Pushing and Malices

1569
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: verse was done first and after Stove has sent his

1570
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 5: verse that they.

1571
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 3: No way you saying that, And I hope so, I

1572
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: hope so, I hope we keeping.

1573
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a world where Stove gets them, for sure,

1574
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying out of like pushing malice, not chanck.

1575
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 3: Theyre probably just gonna sit there like that. I hope not.

1576
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: I hope they kept it raped, keep it rated. You

1577
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 3: don't want you hand it okay.

1578
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 14: So as a rappers etiquete, all right, that's rappers etiquette.

1579
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 13: You can't change your verse.

1580
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 5: Can't change your verse after I send my zen, because

1581
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 5: if I send my verse in and then that a

1582
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 5: song come out and your balls is different than when

1583
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 5: I got it, we're gonna have a real problem now.

1584
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't do that.

1585
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 3: Don't do that.

1586
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 1: No,