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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Welcome to another episode of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm Greg Rosenthal sitting in a totally empty room.

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Speaker 1: There's like no heroes here. I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: I count as a hero today without American Dan. But

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Speaker 1: it's a different sort of show today. It's an extra

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Speaker 1: bonus episode. We're very excited to welcome the Fantasy footballers

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Speaker 1: to the NFL media family. They're doing Extra Dynasty podcast

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Speaker 1: as part of the NFL Podcast, so we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: them in here. A little quick get ready for the

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Speaker 1: season fantasy cram session with the fantasy footballers in just

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Speaker 1: a minute. But since I'm here taping on a Friday afternoon,

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Speaker 1: I figured we would hit news very quickly of what

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Speaker 1: we saw Thursday. Get you ready for the weekend. Again.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bonus extra minisod and I got to

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Speaker 1: start with Anthony Richardson and the Colts. Just some takeaways

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Speaker 1: from the preseason games, a little bit of news, we

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Speaker 1: get to the fantasy footballers, we get you out of

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Speaker 1: here in about thirty minutes. Richardson is just crazy. Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson is box office. I've never been more surprised to

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Speaker 1: look at the box score at the end of a

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Speaker 1: game and see how poorly Anthony Richardson looked in that

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Speaker 1: box score. I know it was six for seventeen seventy

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Speaker 1: eight yards. It sounds ugly. He had some rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: but if you watch that game, you saw so many

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Speaker 1: Colts this year. He made three or four beautiful passes,

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Speaker 1: it's the running nobility that gets you really excited. He

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Speaker 1: And they showed a little of what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just so happy he got drafted by Shane

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Speaker 1: Steike and I can't wait to watch Anthony Richardson and

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Speaker 1: the Colts. Reminds me a little bit of Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: coming out as a rookie. But to me, because of

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing about Richardson that's different than most

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Speaker 1: But this game actually got me more excited to watch

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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. And we're gonna talk with the fantasy footballers

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Speaker 1: a little later of what you should do with him

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Speaker 1: in fantasy drafts. Otherwise, not a lot to take out

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Speaker 1: of that Colts Eagles game. Tanner McKee might get the

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Speaker 1: Falcons also played, and as the Falcons broadcast crew wanted

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Speaker 1: it was hilarious because the Steelers' starters just made them

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Speaker 1: Steelers aren't gonna go cheap in your fantasy draft. And

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Speaker 1: next week, when you get all the NFL dot Com

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Speaker 1: predictions and you see all the season predictions from everyone,

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Speaker 1: they are that team this year that a month ago

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Speaker 1: that buzzy hype team that Mark's been talking about all offseason.

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Speaker 1: He was first on that train. But they've just had

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Speaker 1: get to the fantasy footballers. Jonathan Taylor. We know he's available,

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Speaker 1: Or if Clayton Tune, the fifth round rookie who hasn't

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Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, we learned he might not be ready for

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Speaker 1: just a little bit of an update on the Jerry

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Speaker 1: much in doubt for Judy. That gets you caught up,

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Speaker 1: I think on everything that's happened since we last taped.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get the fantasy footballers in here in just

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Speaker 1: a minute, some last minute prep to get you ready

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Speaker 1: a reminder Dan announced it on Thursday. We're not doing

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Speaker 1: the special music today, are we? Randy? No special music today?

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Speaker 1: I'm the special music. But NFL Plus is where you

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Speaker 1: over the years. Every Thursday, you get Game Pass with it,

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Speaker 1: It's a different vibe, it's a different Chris Westling podcast studio. Today.

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Speaker 1: I am out numbered. I'm out numbered by the Fantasy Footballers.

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Speaker 1: I happen to look at like the iTunes ratings. I'm

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Footballers podcast was number one on the sports ratings.

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Speaker 1: So we're really excited to have them, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore,

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Speaker 1: with NFL Media, which is the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I believe you're taping one of those today too, and

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Speaker 1: That is exciting. So that's Jason. I guess it's gotta

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Speaker 1: I used to work at road the world, and so

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Speaker 1: I know August is kind of the craziest time, the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, August is when everybody comes back. All the you know,

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Speaker 5: I gotta prepare for my draft. It's so much fun,

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Speaker 5: but it's so much work because the content doesn't right itself.

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Speaker 5: like we've got to We've got to talk about so much.

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Speaker 1: Who's the best out of you guys, Is one of

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Speaker 5: Well? How do we just I would just define it

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Speaker 5: by who's the most recent champion in our main league's That.

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Speaker 2: of record that's how I would do it, and I

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Speaker 2: would do recent current basically.

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Speaker 1: are doing the Dynasty Pod and the most intense fantasy

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Speaker 1: cool podcast. I thought we would maybe structure our conversation

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Speaker 1: today around rookies because rookies are kind of the lifeblood

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Speaker 1: of Dynasty. But so we'll talk redrafty and Dynasty. But

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Speaker 1: just coming off last night, for instance, Anthony Richardson look great.

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Speaker 2: Well that that's that's interesting because I mean.

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Speaker 1: Because like Lamar, not enough people took high enough in

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Speaker 1: This is the friendliest Geno Smith podcast on the plane.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean to get back to the rookies, like

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Speaker 2: You're hoping for you're hoping for Cam Newton. But like

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Speaker 1: I guess you have to like keep you have to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the magic sauce for fantasy. Like if you

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Speaker 1: So you take him way ahead of Young and Stroud

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I do.

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Speaker 4: I think because you're you're shooting for for league winning

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Speaker 3: So I would.

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Speaker 4: I think Bryce Young is gonna be a good pro though.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's going to come to fruition.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a Stroud guy. I had C J. Stroud

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching that game, and my son's there watching

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Speaker 1: do you go with Bijon Robinson. I was sort of

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Speaker 5: He's so good, he's I mean, he's like, obviously he's

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Speaker 5: I don't have any problem if you want to say

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Speaker 5: he's next year's number one. You know, I don't have

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Speaker 2: But he's in debate. He was there at three.

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Speaker 3: He was drafted in Jason's hart long ago. Yeah, number

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Speaker 1: He also got drafted by the Falcons. He also got

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Speaker 4: I think part of it is just a confidence in

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Speaker 1: As father who suggested to his daughter to draft right

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Speaker 4: It's gonna I mean, in fantasy points, he led the

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Speaker 4: And so this is me finding some reason to dislike

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Speaker 3: Chances this year.

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Speaker 4: You know, do you miss an opportunity here and there

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Jason would never concede a point.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting thing to me, and this is where

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Speaker 2: Do you take Jackson Smith and Jigbow wide receiver of

436
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: the Seahawks or do you look and be like, man,

437
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: I really have a running back need and Jamier Gibbs.

438
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: Or Richardson was crazy. He wasn't going up no, no,

439
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: not a in a two quarterback.

440
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, for sure. But Gibbs is just because his

441
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 2: magic power is catching the ball. And if we get

442
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: the workload that they wanted for DeAndre Swift, they just

443
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 2: couldn't keep him on the field. If you actually get that,

444
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: you're talking sixty plus receptions, one hundred and twenty something carries,

445
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: and even though David Montgomery is there, Jamiir Gibbs is

446
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 2: just he is a truly truly special player.

447
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 4: You look at the rookie season for Alvin Kamara when

448
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 4: he had mark ingram Right and both those players in

449
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,880
Speaker 4: that rushing offense were top fantasy options at running back.

450
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 4: And that's the template that you set out for Jamiir

451
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: Gibbs in my opinion, because you know there's gonna be

452
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 4: a really good offense. He's gonna have tons of opportunities.

453
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: And for a dynasty longevity, like the running back position

454
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 4: in Dynasty is almost a mirage that you'd have a

455
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: guy you could lock in to your lineup. You think

456
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,479
Speaker 4: you do, you put them in there, and then you

457
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 4: wait like two years and then you're like they disappear.

458
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 4: But if you catch the ball, you know, Kahmara has

459
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: been relevant for this is his seventh season. Eckler longevity

460
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: there that we have confidence in. You know, you can't

461
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: put him ahead of b because John's gonna catch the

462
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: ball too. But Jamiir Gibbs is high draft capital.

463
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: Especially this year. They want to they want to prove

464
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: everyone wrong that it was a bad pick that they

465
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: reached for the pick, and the way they.

466
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 2: Talk about oh no doubt, that's celebration at the draft, right,

467
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 2: that could be something in terms of opportunity.

468
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 1: And I'm not a David Montgomery believer in general, so

469
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: to me, he'll just be kind of he's sager and

470
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: that'll that'll help Gibbs get more. Do you have a

471
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: strong number three, Jason.

472
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 5: Strong number three for rookie running backs. So coming into

473
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 5: the draft, my number two wasn't Gibbs. Before the NFL Draft,

474
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 5: it was Zach Sharbonay. I just absolutely freaking think he's

475
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 5: so good. He can he can catch the ball. Yeah,

476
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 5: he can catch the ball. He can move the pile. Unfortunately,

477
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 5: stupid Pete Carroll, you got to ruin things for fantasy

478
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 5: football and take him because you've already got Kenneth Walker.

479
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 5: You ruined good players. It's great for the Seahawks. Seahawks fans,

480
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 5: I'm happy for you.

481
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: No, we're not.

482
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 5: Well, No, I'm not No, I'm lying, I am lying.

483
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 5: I'm not actually happy for you. I'm very selfish and upset.

484
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 5: But he is still the guy that I think I

485
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 5: leave in that spot just based on talent. So there's

486
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 5: not a clear number three to because at number three

487
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 5: you could go a lot of different ways. Kendre Miller,

488
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 5: is you know a player that I think is is

489
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 5: worthy of that spot. There's you know, so many great

490
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 5: running backs that I like this this season at the

491
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 5: rookie position.

492
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: One that just went down that.

493
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 5: Yes, I was going to say, I've been a big

494
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 5: fan of Devon a Chain. He's small, and so he

495
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 5: gets knocked for oh, he's gonna get injured, and then

496
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 5: then he gets injured, and you're like, Okay, I shouldn't

497
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 5: have gone in on the small guy. But Gibbs is

498
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 5: a small guy too. He's under two hundred p's.

499
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: He's not a change small, but he is a bit smaller.

500
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 3: I tank Bigsby.

501
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: So I've got to take here, and this is where

502
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, you combine the real football fantasy and I

503
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: think they drafted Zach Charbonay because they don't really see

504
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker as that guy. So this is one of

505
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: those things I try to wait to look at average

506
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: apt position until right before we do this show because

507
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: having worked in the industry and stuff like, some things

508
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: will just seem weird to me. And seeing sharbon Ay

509
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: go so much lower than Walker, I look at their

510
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: two profiles and I think like they partly drafted Zach

511
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Sharbonay because Kenneth is not really that dude, because he's

512
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: not consistent in terms of like getting four or five

513
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: six yard carries that Pete Carroll likes, and he's not

514
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: that guy on passing downs. And so I look at

515
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: that situation and this would be my tip, And you

516
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: guys could disagree that, Like to me, sharbon is at

517
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: the end of the year, I would guess is one

518
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: A and Kenneth Walker in one B. And you guys

519
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: are right that it's kind of a drag that they

520
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: bring each other down, But especially because Walker might get

521
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: hurt anyways, it would not surprise me, especially in week

522
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: one with Walker having missed a lot of time, that

523
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Sharbona is getting a lot of work on a pretty

524
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: good offense.

525
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really it's it's scary for Kenneth Walker because

526
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: so when we do our rankings, we don't just like

527
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: make a list of guys and order them and say

528
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 5: I like this guy more than that guy. We actually

529
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 5: stat out every single player on every single team and

530
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 5: let what we believe the actual projections for the season

531
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: are going to be dictate what our rankings are. And

532
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 5: I have those guys ten spots apart. They're not that

533
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: far apart. In my actual statistics. And the reason is

534
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 5: because for fantasy the two most valuable things are catching

535
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 5: the ball and scoring touchdowns, and those are those are

536
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 5: what Zach Charboney does. You know, Kenneth Walker is gonna

537
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 5: break off some awesome runs. You know he'll be highlight efficient,

538
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 5: big plays between the twenties. But if they get down

539
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 5: by the goal line and they put sharbon Ay in,

540
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 5: that's gonna hurt Kenneth Walker a lot. And if you're

541
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 5: in a two minute drill and it's it's charbon Ay,

542
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 5: I mean, Charbone is so good.

543
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: I just love him. Yeah, the Kenneth Walker, Uh, it's

544
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: it's a it's a real wild card because Walker, he

545
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: agreed he had some inefficiencies of like you often get

546
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: zero yards at the goal line, wasn't very efficient, did

547
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: get did not get in a lot despite the fact

548
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: that I think he had one hundred percent of Seattle's

549
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: goal line carries throughout the entire season, you would have

550
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: expected more touchdowns. But he does have home run ability.

551
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: And the Seahawks are just a real wild card of

552
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: we had this exact same team, this exact same head coach.

553
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: You're just a few years ago, you had Chris Carson

554
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: basically one of the last picks of the NFL draft. Yeah,

555
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: and had himself a really strong season. You're like, oh,

556
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: Chris Carson, this, this looks great. He's interesting going into

557
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: next year. I bet Seattle addresses real needs on this

558
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: this team else where the offensive line is a no

559
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: first round for Shad Penny and it was well, now,

560
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 2: everything history has told us first round running backs succeed

561
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: like first round rookie running backs are almost always not

562
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: just good great for fantasy football. And then Chris Carson

563
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: kept the job. So that's the real wild card of

564
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 2: a lot of the Beat reporters out of Seattle. They're

565
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: all saying it's still gonna be ken Walker's job. He

566
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: he missed some time he had he had the groin injury, right, yeah, yeah,

567
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: my groin. He so he had an issue, but he

568
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: came back and he went right back into to being

569
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: number one. There was no like, well, maybe Sarbon is

570
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: gonna get the first. No, it was back to Ken Walker.

571
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: So at his ADP. I think it's risky and fragile,

572
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: but the upside is still tremendous. Even though I'm I'm

573
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: with Jason of like we were both very infatuated with

574
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: sharbon Ay throughout the draft process.

575
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Seahawks are always throwing away no good. I

576
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: remember Thomas Rawls, Oh yeah, oh yeah.

577
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he rambled his way to some success for an for.

578
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: A year before we let you go quickly. We'll talk receivers,

579
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: but we'll go through it a quick We got to like, look,

580
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Footballers is their time of year. They're doing

581
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: a fantasy show with I think they're talking with Marcus

582
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: and Florio on Our Fantasy Show, and then they're doing

583
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Show, which everyone should check out.

584
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: Do you just have a favorite between Addison Flowers JSN.

585
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I guess we could throw Quinton Johnson in there, but

586
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: I feel like just where he is on the depth chart,

587
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: maybe he's not quite in that here, mate, maybe even

588
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: Jayden Reid, who's probably he's gonna have the starter, Like,

589
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: do you have a do you have a favorite? Okay,

590
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: we'll go around and start with Mike.

591
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: It's Zay Flowers for me. I mean, Jordan Addison's a

592
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: really close second for me. But what my belief in

593
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: the transformation that the Ravens offense will see with Todd

594
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Monkin as the offensive coordinator, not only going into eleven personnel,

595
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: not only going into a more pass heavy offense, but

596
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: also up tempo, which is the complete opposite of what

597
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: we've had for the Ravens, you know, in the last

598
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: whatever forever. So I'm really interested in what their offense

599
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: is going to do. And then the fact that you

600
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Lamar's being drafted as a top five quarterback justifiably so.

601
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: And Zay Joe or Jay Flowers is his wide receiver one,

602
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: but he's going in like the ninth round. So it's

603
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: it's a weird thing of looking at the ADP market

604
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: of well, if this is going to be a great,

605
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: prolific quarterback, one top five quarterback, it would stand a reason.

606
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: Of course, Mark Andrews is the number one target, but

607
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: like the wide receiver one, if you can figure out

608
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: who it is, it could be absolute fans gold. And

609
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: what Zay Flowers has put on the field in preseason.

610
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: That's Mike Camp too. He's one of those guys at

611
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: the reporter people.

612
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: Are whispering whispering, whispers.

613
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I agree.

614
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: Look, I'll jump in real question. Jasn is still at

615
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: the top of my list.

616
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: Just even with what if he misses four weeks.

617
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: Well, I'm taking the long view here. He's the most

618
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: talented of the players he's going to have. He's one

619
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 4: of those players that I think people want to find,

620
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 4: you know, Metcalfin. Lockett's still talented still on the field,

621
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: but talent wins out in the end. And that's the

622
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: challenge of these like you know, even like Charbonnay for example,

623
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: Like he's going to get ranked some place at the

624
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 4: beginning of the year, but fantasy championships might be one

625
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: over the last ten weeks or the last eight weeks

626
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 4: of the year. So his his fantasy ranking now versus

627
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: what he's valued, his value is at the end of

628
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 4: the year, it changes. I still think Jayson got drafted

629
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: there for a reason. This is a player that you know,

630
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 4: Chris o'lave and Garrett Wilson heralded as is better than

631
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: they were at Ohio State. So I still think at

632
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: the end of the year, and in dynasty format.

633
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: He's the g I prefer.

634
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, it's it's pretty easy if this if

635
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 5: we're talking about a dynasty league, it's jsn he is

636
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 5: the best player. Yeah, he's a special, special talent. But

637
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: if we're talking about redraft. Is Jordan Addison you have?

638
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 5: He's so talented. He reminds me a lot of DeVonta Smith,

639
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 5: a smaller guy but just completely ready for the NFL.

640
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 5: Such a good route runner, Blitnikoff Award winner, really talented player.

641
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 5: But then he goes to an opportunity this year for

642
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 5: redraft where it's like you have a pass happy offense

643
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 5: with a bad defense, where Adam Thielen, who just ran

644
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 5: the third most routes of the last decade, is gone,

645
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 5: and it might take him a week or two to

646
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 5: like get into that role. Maybe he starts third on

647
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 5: the depth chart week one, week two. But I love

648
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: Jordan Addison this year. I think he's gonna finish the

649
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 5: season helping people win championships.

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Speaker 1: You remember when Justin Jefferson was the h couple. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I like Addison a lot, just

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Speaker 1: the way he moves and Flowers. I can't really decide.

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Speaker 1: I can't decide between those two. But it's it's crazy

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Speaker 1: how wide receivers, how that's changed.

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Speaker 2: Why not both? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Right? Like rookie wide receivers used to come in the

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Speaker 1: league and they would always get over drafted in fantasy.

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Speaker 1: That was one of those things that like we'd trot

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Speaker 1: out on our like column right before the season of

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Speaker 1: like tips and stuff like that, and like football changes,

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Speaker 1: that's no longer the case. If anything, they show up

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Speaker 1: even better. One one last thing though, just as someone

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Speaker 1: who's been in a podcast for a long time with

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Speaker 1: a couple of other guys, like, how do you guys

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Speaker 1: keep the relationship fresh?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, just take our time or do you

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Speaker 1: all like hate each other?

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Speaker 5: Now? No, No, we really we get along. I mean

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Speaker 5: I think that's part of the secret sauce of our

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Speaker 5: We just are who we are. We've been friends for

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Speaker 5: a decade, we've worked together in a former business, and

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Speaker 5: and you know, I think we give each other enough

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Speaker 5: crap that that's what keeps the love alive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we don't pull any punches.

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Speaker 4: All of our biggest actual fights in our lives interpersonally

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Speaker 4: have been around Jason's bad takes.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what you want if it's not getting personal,

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Speaker 1: if it's just about the takes, that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not too bad.

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Speaker 2: I think Jason is right. We we can give each

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Speaker 2: other crap all the time, but you can also, all

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Speaker 2: three of us can handle it when you're like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I deserved it. Yeah that was justifiable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like ours. We just we just ride

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Speaker 1: the roller coaster.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be up, it's going to be downs. But

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Footballers are a great podcast to check out

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Speaker 1: a lot of you probably are already checking out, but

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Speaker 1: they have a new one with NFL Media too, called

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast, so you can check that out.

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Speaker 1: We're happy to have you a board, and uh, we'll

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Speaker 1: get some many food maybe up in the in the.

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Speaker 2: We had some tasty burgers.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, all right, uh and uh

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Speaker 1: that's it for this week. This was an extra little

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Speaker 1: bonus episode. We will be back on Monday recapping all

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Speaker 1: the preseason action and then the wheel really starts to

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Speaker 1: go and we have our r are around the AFC, NFC.

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Speaker 1: Next week we start previewing and giving award prediction season predicted,

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Speaker 1: So it really starts going next week. U until then

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Speaker 1: for Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike Right, I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: Eat the cor