WEBVTT - The Henry Kissinger is Dead Episode 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:10.480 Also media, Welcome to Dick it happened here a podcast 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:12.959 with the It is Henry Kissinger, and the happening here 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:14.840 is that he's dead as a door nail. I'm your 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.720 host via log with me on this joyous day after 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:21.760 Kissinger's dead. Is Garrison Davis and James Stout. Welcome to 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:22.160 the show. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.640 WHOA Hello, very excited. 0:00:25.320 --> 0:00:27.240 Had a had a fun night in the group chat 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.800 last night, I did send over the hordy Henry Kissinger 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.480 copy pasta without reading it to two of the group chat, 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.480 and I feel like that was that was a good call. 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:39.320 Fully at the exit. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.760 Within within thirty seconds of you sending that, I got 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.720 the same I got the same message in another group 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.519 chat and I was like, how it was. 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.160 It was spreading around pretty quick. I wanted to jump 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.560 on it soon before before other people were going to 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.280 share it. So so yeah, that is that is, that 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.400 is my duty. I mean, it's it's certainly upsetting. He 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.480 lives till one hundred, but we will sell break his 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:01.640 death nevertheless. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.560 Yes, it would have been nice if he died sooner. 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:07.960 Yeah, yeah, it was nice. Well we don't we don't 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.080 know how he died. He could he could have died horribly. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:11.080 We actually don't know. 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:16.480 Oh yeah, he in his home in Connecticut, surrounded by 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:20.319 his hopefully according to the Acial statement. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.440 Yeah, well, look, he lived a little longer and died 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:24.880 a lot more pleasantly than a lot of the people 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:26.440 his life he ended. Which is sad. 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.680 It is It is sad, but it's also funny. He 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:32.759 he died knowing he's probably one of the most hated 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.280 men in the world, which is pretty funny. 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.000 Parties of the fucking street like there was so there was. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:43.720 There was a giant pro Palestine protest in Chicago last night, 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.600 and there's videos of them finding out live while they're 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.040 in the streets that Kissing is dying and his giant 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.880 cheer goes up. People having a great time. Yeah, I 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.480 was texting my friends who were down at the border. Uh, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.800 the camera Kissinger is dead. Spread the word among the 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.320 people of the nations that he destroyed. 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.160 Pretty good, pretty good stuff. I mean, it's we we 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.120 we all. We all had a fun time last night, 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.640 as I'm sure many many of you listeners did. But 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:19.399 slowly some organizations started to trickle out very embarrassing statements. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:19.720 Uh. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.079 The first one I saw was from the A d 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:27.080 L who had a quite the quite quite the statement 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.880 I'm gonna I want to find the I want to 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:32.639 find it actually on on X the new hot social 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.040 media app, because it's online on X because because the 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.760 community note on it is just magnificent. Yeah, that was great, 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:45.560 really really gives you a good look at the mind 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:48.240 of Kissinger, and it's fun to laugh at the people 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.639 who are like propping him up as some like great 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.480 Jewish statesmen. So yeah, Henry Kissinger was a towering intellect, 0:02:55.720 --> 0:03:00.560 diplomat and practitioner who, not without controversy, he helped shape 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:05.040 American foreign policy with a lasting impact worldwide. A refugee 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.760 from Nazi Germany and the first Jewish Secretary of State, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.680 he was unapologetic about his heritage and his embrace of 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:17.400 the importance of American global power and democratic values. Which 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:21.320 I like that they call him a practitioner, just a 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.359 funny thing to say. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.440 Yeah, But there are a number of funny things in 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:27.600 that post. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:32.519 Oh absolutely. Probably the funniest is that during a meeting 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.960 of the Washington Special Actions Group, Kissinger said, quote, if 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.200 it were not for the accident of my birth, I 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.080 would be anti Semitic. Any people who have been persecuted 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.800 for two thousand years, must be doing something wrong. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.920 Yeah, here's another one. That one's fun. It's another one. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.320 The emigration of Jews from the Soviet Union is not 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.160 an objective of American foreign policy. And if they put 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.680 Jews in gas chambers in the Soviet Union, it is 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.200 not an American concern, maybe a humanitarian concern. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.920 And that was a real. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.720 Amazing stuff like it's it has. It has certainly been 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.720 wild to watch any any shred of credibility that the 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.520 ad L has had just absolutely go down the drain 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.880 in the past two months by their own volition, just 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:23.200 ruining decades of like of of research into anti Semitic 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.600 extremism by just tarnishing every single piece of research they've done, 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.120 by how they've how they've been behaving the past two months. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.960 Yeah, I mean they outraged us three or four years. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:36.840 They've really been a war like. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.599 They're like they're like fully going back to their like 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.880 selling information to a partid South Africa days. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:47.600 Yeah, so. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:54.400 Praisingraming, praising Henry Kissinger is someone who admitted that he 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.040 would be anti Semitic if he wasn't born Jewish. It 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.640 was just like, what the fuck are you doing anyway 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.000 that that was one of the first one of the 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:06.400 first organizations to come out in in memoriam of mister 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:11.680 Kissinger after after his his devastating passing last night. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.000 Sorry, I've I made a post about this ADL post 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.360 and I'm just scoping the replies because there are a 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.599 lot of normal people on on x dot com these days. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.960 Someone that there's a group which appears to exist to 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.560 lobby for the ADL to lose its nonprofit status, and 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.160 I'm just going to say that these are the people 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.920 that a d L should be focusing their because this 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.599 is this is the old school anti Semitism. That is 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.680 a giant fucking problem and we all need to reject. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.440 Like there is some hateful ship on x dot com 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.200 and sadly it's in my replies. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.960 Yeah, there is there. There is plenty to go around, 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.760 and the fact that they feel the need to defend 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.040 mister Kissinger. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.640 This guy's running for governor of Missouri. So yeah, just 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.080 as a podcast, I think we can safely say don't 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.720 vote for Darryl mcclana and klan is in his name. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.200 This is our this is this is this is the capen. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:11.520 Here's first anti endorsement for the twenty twenty four election season. Yeah. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.840 Yeah, I'm just gonna say, don't don't vote for this guy. 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:20.880 So so true. Well, god, I'm glad. I'm glad we 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.799 could all bond over over over that as I bonded 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.560 over the many, many funny, funny memes in the meme 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.760 chats that I'm in rocketing on all scillators to. Twitter 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.520 has been preparing for this night for years. We have 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.560 been training. We've been training for so long. People have 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:42.120 stayed on throughout Elon's catastrophe just yet, just for this night, 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.919 and now are finally free they can yeah, finally be 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.200 released into the pasture. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.200 Yeah, yeah, go live on. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:53.880 I'm surprised we didn't crash Twitter with yeah, were posting, 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:55.280 hopefully his last words. 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.800 Well, I wonder what they'll post about me. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.880 Yeah, I'm sure he was thinking about posting when he 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:00.560 going out. 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.640 That makes sense he would have been a post I don't. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.400 Think it was like, oh no, it burns. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:12.120 Oh god, Yes, Anthony Corday with brass knuckles at the 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:12.720 gates of Hell. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:20.880 Yeah yeah, So okay, all right, so what are we 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:22.520 doing for the rest of this episode? So okay, if 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.960 if you want to do an episode that is the 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.560 entire history of the stuff Kissinger did. Robert did a 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.080 sixth part behind the Bastard episode. On it, you can 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.960 spend like twelve hours of your life learning. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.960 About having having the worst time. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.680 Yeah, yeah, I always of a self help book. Is 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.520 a self harm book? Audiobook has made for you? 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.560 Yes, but with three funny people giving commentaries. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.040 Yes, it's very funny. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:54.040 Yeah. However, comma, so we have been talking about how 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.160 I mean, people are like people are partying in the 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.960 streets in Campodia like there. Kissinger's death has been a 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.240 source of celebration for almost everyone on Earth. But that 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.200 is not what this episode is about. This episode is 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:12.000 about the one country on Earth that isn't celebrating. That 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.720 country is China. And on the country, not only is 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.960 China not celebrating the death of Henry Kissinger, China is 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.520 quite possibly the most popular American in the history of 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.760 China to this day. Like right now, if you went 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:30.880 and pulled like the favorability rating of like every famous 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.200 American you can think of, the person with the highest 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.920 rating is almost certainly going to be Henry Kissinger. And 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.480 you know, I mean, and this is this is and 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:40.840 this is not just a sort of like a popular thing, 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.720 although again he is enormously popular among ordinary Chinese people. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.360 This is a thing that goes from the state down 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.000 Xi Jinping. He's actually, weirdly one of the last world 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:53.400 leaders to talk to Kissinger. So Kissinger went to visit 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.800 China in July, and him and Jijinping have this like 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:02.840 great heartfelt reunion. They have a time. Chijinping says, quote, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.080 the Chinese people never forget their old friends, and Sino 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.880 US relations will always be linked with the name of 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:12.800 Henry Kissinger. In the wake of Kissinger's death, the Chinese 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.920 government said, from Reuter's quote, Kissinger made historic contributions to 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.719 the normalization of China US relations, and Chinese people will 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:26.040 forever remember him for his quote sincere devotion and important contributions, 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:30.360 Wang added. The Chinese Premier and the Foreign Minister also 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:35.360 sent messages of condolences to Kissinger's family and to Secretary 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:41.600 of State Anthony Blincoln. So he is getting like he 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.400 is getting as good a reception in China as any 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:50.640 American has ever gotten. And if you can understand how 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.679 this came to be, how like every other country in 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:57.840 the region fucking hates Kissinger like everyone else despises him. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.960 And if you can understand why China, why he is 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:04.040 like the most popular American in Chinese history, you can 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.439 understand the entire arc of the twentieth century and how 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:07.960 we ended up with the horror that we all live 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:13.320 in today. But first, speaking of the horrors that we 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.800 all live in today, is. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.240 A sad breaker, are you saying, yeah? 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.760 Hopefully one of our yeah, hopefully yea. The Henry Kissinger 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.400 collectible coins that they minted ten years ago and now 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.000 been released to the market, and this will be the 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.440 first of many adverts for them. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.240 They're only going to grow in value. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:49.280 Insulate yourself against inflation with these Hamory Kissinger coins, and. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.400 We are back. So this story, the story of how 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.839 Kissinger became the most popular man in China or the 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:01.679 most popular American in China, begins in Shanghai twenty seven. Oh, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.640 it is the year nineteen twenty seven. For over a decade, 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:10.880 China has been Lossinger series wars is seven four four 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:11.680 years old. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.000 Yeah, four years old, Child Kissinger. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:19.440 Child Kissinger is presumably unaware of the developments in China. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:25.320 Oh he oh, I don't think you say that he was. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.760 He was keeping tabs absolutely at four years old. 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.559 Yeah, he was even back then. He was a quote 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.880 foreign policy realist. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:39.040 A towering intellect of this stature doesn't doesn't start his twenties. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.520 He starts like in his toddler years. 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.439 Choice of words. By the way, towering intellect. Just looking 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.240 at him, the pictures of him in China where where 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.240 he's dwarfed, and it's just very funny to look at 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.080 this guys grabbing, towering. It's like he's gonna be like 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:54.880 five foot nothing. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.240 His intellect is towering, not his not his, not his person. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.120 Short short king King would have been a great tweet 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.960 if the ideada code of a short king, I'm ironically 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:12.160 I would have stand that. Yes, you were saying so 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:16.280 as as as as little tiny baby ass Kissinger is 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:21.280 looking on. China's Communist Party is locked in a tenuous 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:26.280 alliance with the Chinese Nationalist Party, which is the glooming Dong. No. Yeah, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.079 they saw so with the aid of the Soviets. And 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.480 when I say the aid of the Soviets, I mean 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:35.400 the Soviets basically rebuilt the Nationalist Party from the ground up. Yeah, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.080 the Nationalists have turned into a juggernaut they have there, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.560 they have swept aside like every warlord army. They face 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:44.480 their marching triophant across the country, and ahead of their advance, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.959 a massive uprising led by the communists finally drives the 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:52.559 warlords out of Shanghai. The Chinese working class stands victorious. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.760 They and they alone stand triumphant over the greatest city 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:58.520 in China. It is the last time they will control 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.520 this city for forty years. The new leader of the 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:05.240 Nationalist Party is shan Kai shak Our proto fastist drug 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:08.079 lord who the Soviets for some inexplicable reason thought was 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.520 going to work for them and was going to like 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.839 build a socialist state at China. Deeply unclear why they 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.880 thought this. I don't know. Don't have Stalin running your 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:18.640 foreign policy. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.640 I don't have started running shit. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:28.440 Like a yeah, yeah Christmas, Yeah, so's he's no kissing jerk, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:29.760 Like what can we say? 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:30.600 Yeah? 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.360 Also dead, though thankfully killed similar numbers of communists. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:36.320 We are. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.120 We are one sentence away from that. So, under the 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.800 direction of Moscow, the communists in China convinced the Chinese 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:44.800 working class to open the gates of the city to 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.280 allow the nationalist army. Inside the nationalist army immediately begins 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.680 slaughtering the Chinese working class. By by the end of 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.800 the white terror that this is going to unleash, the 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.719 nationalists will have killed one million people, most of them 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:03.320 Chinese workers and peasants. Basically like the entire you know, 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.079 like like basically the entire urban Chinese left dies in 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.920 this like like the in this slaughter, and with them 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.480 dies basically the entire internationalist wing of the Chinese Communist Party. 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.840 Because the internationalist wing, the wing that had you know, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:21.560 very close connections to Moscow, were all like in Shanghai, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.600 and they were all but they were most importantly not 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.440 that they were all literally in Shanghai, but they were 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.640 all part of the urban Communist Party and they get 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.720 just completely wiped out. And this is the part of 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.240 the Shanghai o Rising that for our purposes is important 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.560 because it's the first moment where the rift between the 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.120 Soviets and the Chinese Communist Party begins to form. Now, 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.040 in the wake of the Shanghai massacre, Stalin sends the 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:47.160 CCP instructions that are just nonsense, like he's telling them 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.760 to stay aligned with the Nationalist Party, but to oppose 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:56.160 Shang Kai Sheck. Like literally there's descriptions of the meeting 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.240 when like this this telegram comes in, the CCP leaders 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.760 are like sitting around this thing is radio. They're sitting 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.720 around this radio and they get the they like they 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.680 get the instructions and they're just like these people are 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.240 just burying their hands in their face because like this 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:11.200 is nothing, it is nonsense, and you know, and this 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.280 is sort of this is that's like the last gasp 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.680 of the old Communist Party leadership. Those people are just gone, 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:20.000 and in their place rises Mao. Now Mao is not 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:21.920 from the urban wing of the party. He is from 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.280 like he's Mao is a peasant organizer, right, He's from 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:27.200 the whirl wing, and his wing of the party tends 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.840 to be more nationalists and less sort of like subservient 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.160 to Moscow than the urban wing of the party. And 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:37.200 with Stalin basically getting the entire urban Communist Party and 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:40.840 like every other urban leftist in the country killed, you know, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:42.920 the people that are left are Mao and the sort 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:46.400 of peasant organizations who have a distrust of the Soviets 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.720 that they're going to maintain for basically their entire lives. Now, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.960 obviously relations between the CCP and Stalin improve as like 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.280 World War two happens, but there's a basically the moment 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.280 the war ends, there's a series of incidents that sort 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.560 of strained relations. One is that this is less an incident. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.760 But Stalin seems to not have thought that the CCP 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.880 was gonna win the war, like he seems to have 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.200 thought that the nationalists are going to beat them. And 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.240 one of the things that he does is basically de 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.560 industrializes Japan's giant industrial belt and occupied Ventchuria. This is 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.600 a completely intact industrial belt. It is one of the 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.160 largest like intact industrial belts in the world, and Stalin, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:35.120 like in classic Soviet fashion, takes the factories, takes them apart, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:39.200 puts them on trains, and ships them across the sorry 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:40.800 to rebuild the Soviet economy. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:44.520 YEP. One of the first of many such incidents. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.600 Yeah, and this is a catastrophe for the CCP because 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.280 even after the CCP wins the war, because they've now 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.080 you know, so it's like Shanghai is in ruins, Beijing, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.680 like most of China is just in ruins because of 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.720 I mean, like what what year they on if effectively 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:07.560 continuous fighting and the after the war. China's industrial base 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.960 in this is nineteen forty nine, right, their industrial base 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:16.560 is smaller than Russia's in nineteen seventeen, which is just nuts, 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.040 it is and this is small, yeah, and this is 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.480 the conditions that the everything, the entire course of twenty 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.240 century Chinese history are defined by these conditions, right, and 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:33.119 these specific conditions are this is basically a production bottleneck, right, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:34.639 And I've talked about this on the show before. This 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.359 is one of the sort of most important things in 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:41.679 twentieth century Chinese political economy is that, you know, the 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.879 CCP is trying to simultaneously expand its agricultural production to 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.920 feed people and also expand its industrial capacity. It's mostly 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.960 trying to expand it to its industrial capacity. The problem 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:54.080 is they can't expand their industrial capacity without expanding their 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.800 agricultural capacity, and they can't expand their agricultural capacity without 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.760 expanding their industrial capacity. And their attempt just blow through 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.359 this by like mass use of human labor is the 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.199 great lead board. It's a complete catastrophe. Right, This is 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.360 just gonna fuck Like whatever like intentions like the Chinese 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:13.240 Revolution had, this is just going to fuck them because 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.520 the combination of this and their ideology is just going 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:22.080 to doom the entire project. And you know this and 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.280 so the other thing about this period, the Soviets are 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:29.000 really really patronizing, like they talk about like constantly and 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.000 like diplomatic things, like they talk about the Soviet like 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.040 the Chinese is like their younger brothers. There's like this 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:39.119 weird like thing going on. This isn't enough to substantially 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.320 threaten their alliance, but the relationship between the USSR and 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.320 China is never as it's never quite as firm as 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:51.879 people think it is. Now the thing that really like 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.560 kickstarts the break between the USSR and China is Khrushchev's 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.200 secret speech denouncing Stalin. So this gets like leaked. Krushchev 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.720 makes the speech for he was like, wow, Stalin did 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.200 some fucked up stuff they called the personality was bad actually, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:11.720 and this pisses off an enormous number of peoples. Mau 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.520 Forever like problems malhas with Stalin. He takes a very 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.600 hard line on this where he's like, no, I'm like this. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.960 The Soviets are now revisionists. They have abandoned the path 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.879 of Marcus Leninism. I am now the only anti revisionist 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.199 in the world. And you know, and this whole thing 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.520 like results in these worstening relations between China and the 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.600 Soviet Union, with the CCP basically calling the Soviets like 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:36.360 weak neck bureaucratic social imperialists and the Soviets looking at 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.560 like the great leap forward and being like, what are 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:43.520 these maniacs doing? And this tension escalates to the sixties 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:47.480 is both sides start massing troops on the Chinese Soviet border. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.919 Now meanwhile, so so okay, the sixties goes on and 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.199 control of the Soviet Union has fallen to Leoned Breshnev, 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.440 who is an absolute maniac, deeply weird, deeply not very 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.760 good guy, and he, in response to the Council Communist 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.480 uprising in Prague nineteen sixty eight, Breshnev rolls tanks in 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.120 kills everyone and then declares the Breshnev Doctrine, in which 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.720 Breshnev claims the right to overthrow any socialist government who 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.720 the Soviets decided we're trying to become capitalists, which I mean, 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.639 this is the Soviet's right like that that what that 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.800 actually means is that they don't align with USSR. So 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:30.520 Breshnev means this to be about Eastern Europe, right, Mao 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:33.199 looks at this and goes, oh shit, Breshnev is going 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:38.040 to try to overthrow me. And this does not go well. 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:40.360 So and you know, I know that thing he's looking 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.040 at it, he's looking at like the Soviet troops massing 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.360 on the border, and he's like, oh shit. And this 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.840 is where things get absolutely wild. In nineteen sixty nine, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:54.199 there are a giant series of border skirmishes between this 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.960 between Soviet and Chinese troops. People are killing each other 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:01.840 across this enormous This is like continent side border. People 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:06.359 are like like like companies of Chinese and Soviet troops 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:09.720 are like firing artillery at each other. Everyone is completely 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.639 losing their minds. And this is actually like one of 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.199 the reasons why like every once in a while you'll 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.320 get these things from the Himalayas and China's border with India, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.240 where everyone's like hitting each other with sticks. And the 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.840 reason you're hitting each other with sticks is that like 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.320 the Chinese were like, wait, hold on, it's actually a 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.280 bad idea to have guys with guns on the border 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:31.240 of a nuclear power. 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.720 Yeah, yeah, they have some amazing, amazing brawls. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.960 Yeah, but you know, but and the funny thing like 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.960 that that's the reasonable version of this. In sixty nine, 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:45.200 they're having the unreasonable version of this, where the Soviets 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.560 are looking at the situation and they're going, oh shit, 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:51.119 we can't win a war with China because their calculation 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.640 is that they will eventually be overwhelmed by a combination 0:21:53.720 --> 0:21:55.439 of human wave attacks and the fact that like an 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:58.239 enormous portion of the China's the Chinese population has been 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.720 trained in guerrilla warfare. And there's second problem is that 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.000 the Chinese population is to disperse for them to all 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:06.440 be killed by the Soviet nuclear weapons. And the CCP 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.439 makes the same assessment, and it's like, Okay, if we 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.359 fight this war, like the human wave attacks are just 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.119 going to eventually are going to crush them. We're going 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.199 to use force numbers that can't kill us all with nukes. 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.000 So the Soviets plan for this is they are like 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:19.919 drawing up plans to line the border with China with 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.640 nuclear land mines to stop the chese. 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:25.080 It's nuts. 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:26.920 Everyone is losing their. 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.520