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Speaker 1: Paradise is over and Peter Webber is your new Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: and like, you know, I want to finish this out.

427
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Speaker 1: And even when I came back, man, I was I

428
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Speaker 1: was miserable. I lost like nine pounds, um, and UH

429
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Speaker 1: came back and it was it was tough. It was

430
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's tot and you know, you don't

431
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Speaker 1: sleep a lot, so it's um, it was tough to

432
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Speaker 1: kind of go through it. So I mean I was miserable.

433
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Speaker 1: I mean I was I was miserable for a lot

434
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Speaker 1: of the time. But uh, you know, I'm glad I

435
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: was able to stick around and see everything through. Yeah,

436
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: it's nearly impossible, I would imagine. I mean, I can

437
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: go back. But this is not about me. This is

438
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: about you here. I didn't have to spend my whole

439
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: time on a beach uh and the heat and uh

440
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: and also try to spend time with all these people

441
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: and build a relationship. Chris, good on you, man um

442
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: for pushing through it, and Katie, great on you for

443
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: sticking beside him. We're really excited about YouTube, and we're

444
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Speaker 1: also excited about this next couple who we had a

445
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Speaker 1: co host last week, Sydney. She loves Dylan Hannah. Uh.

446
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: They She thinks Dylan Hannah are just the best people.

447
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: But she said she didn't see a lot of them

448
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: because a lot of time was spit in the boom

449
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: boom room. Hannah and Bild to get this thing started.

450
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Speaker 1: Explained to the listeners out there, what is the boom

451
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: boom room? And hey, be honest, why are you in

452
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: there all the time? So? Um, I don't know if

453
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: you guys have heard, but sometimes you stay up really

454
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: really late in Paradise and so look a lot of naps.

455
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean you get the spin that you need. I'm

456
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: not even usually a napper. Um yeah, yeah, honestly, the

457
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: stas fun fact um. And yeah, I mean you don't

458
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Speaker 1: have to be on all the time, and there's like

459
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Speaker 1: not cameras. Were times that's nice. When they used to

460
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: bring coffee to your room, that was like the greatest

461
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: luxury nice coffee. They're so good. I took actually advice

462
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: for the safe Earlier today, Hannah said that he was

463
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: more shocked to get engaged than Katie, that you than

464
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: you were. Um, so Hannah explained everybody why you were

465
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: so surprised is he doing it down on one knee?

466
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Because none of us were surprised. Well, I wasn't sure

467
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: if he was actually going to do it. Um. We

468
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, we've kind of really had one job or

469
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: one main thing to talk about during fantasy suits and

470
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: we just kind of left it as like oh well,

471
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, like in the moment kind of thing. And

472
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: I think we both left the fantasy suite being like,

473
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: oh wait, so are we actually doing it? Or are

474
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: we holding off her family? So I actually just wasn't sure. Um,

475
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think we really we knew that we

476
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: both wanted to be engaged. It was just a matter

477
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: of her family being involved in my family being involved,

478
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: and I think we just came to the conclusion that,

479
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of like our moment. Everything

480
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 1: culminated to that, and we knew that both our families

481
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: would be We just kind of wanted to take advantage

482
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: of of being there with our love story and everything,

483
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: because it obviously wasn't the easiest, but we're really happy.

484
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm happy I did it, and our families, um do

485
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: love each other, and they my family loves Dylan. Yeah,

486
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: my mom loves and all of that. Today, Dylan, was

487
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: there a precise moment where You're like, I'm going to propose? Yeah,

488
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: I it was. I woke up the day of because

489
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: we um obviously, like you kind of stepparate a little bit.

490
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: But I woke up the day of, and um, the

491
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: night before, I was unsure, and I just felt so

492
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: confident that day, like this is the one that I

493
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: want to be with for the rest of my life,

494
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: and I want to take advantage of the opportunity that

495
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: we have right now and and propose to are and

496
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: show her that I fought for from essentially the first day,

497
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: and then I was committing to do that for the

498
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: rest of a lot. So it was pretty cool moment,

499
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: a realization. I guess we we started the podcast today.

500
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: You all didn't need to hear it, but we just

501
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: said about out the podcast about a story of how

502
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: important community and support is at any level. So if

503
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: it's really romantic, if it's with friends, are just in

504
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: a community of people, how important it is to support

505
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: each other. Hannah Dylan. I think the whole season US

506
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: fans of you yours were so intrigued with Dylan, how

507
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: you supported Hannah at the beginning while Hannah was kind

508
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: of figuring everything out and processing it. And then Hannah

509
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: the switch that you made a couple of weeks in

510
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: where he said, no, I'm choosing you Dylan because you

511
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: are somebody I'm into. What why You're in paradise. We

512
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: talked about it every season, and I'm gonna try to

513
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: phrase this correctly. What about those moments lad you at

514
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: the end to be confident that you were the right

515
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: person for each other forever? I think really having a

516
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: lot of time. Yeah. I mean, even though it seems

517
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: like we just made out the whole time and said

518
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: you rock, Um, we had a lot of a lot

519
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: a lot of time, so really focus on each other,

520
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: ask questions that mattered, and you know, ultimately just figure

521
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: out as we could make this work in the real world,

522
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: because it was working great and paradise land, but the

523
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: real world is different and scary. Until we really had

524
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: those conversations, and I think there was just a bunch

525
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: of moments that really kind of validated that we wanted

526
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: to be together. I don't know if it was a

527
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: little moments like breakfast and like just doing small things

528
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: get together, or conversations or just I don't know. I

529
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: think I think with us, it was our communication, Like

530
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: from the very first night we that's the tone that

531
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: we were going to be a hundred percent up front

532
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: with each other and tell each other everything, not pull

533
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: any punches, um. And I think from that point on

534
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: we continue to do that every single day. And that

535
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: just made me feel so confident and like where we

536
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: were at and how happy we were together. Well, I'll

537
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: tell you one thing here at almost from this podcast,

538
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: our listeners who have emailed to message us and Ashley

539
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: and I the rest of the team. We're so happy

540
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: for all of you in that car right now, and

541
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: including Demi and Christian who are not able to be here. Uh.

542
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: We just want to celebrate you all, celebrate your love stories.

543
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting us be a part of that. Dylan,

544
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: I have one last final question for you before we

545
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: hang up. I want to know you have everybody known

546
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: this man the best? What do you think of Pilot

547
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: Pete being named the next Bachelor? Pete, He's gonna be

548
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: a great bachelor. I think, Um, they had a great

549
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: crop of guise to choose from, whether you know, if

550
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: you Tyler, Mike Pete, um, And I think Petche is

551
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna absolutely crush it where it's hard on his sleeve. Um.

552
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be there's gonna be a pretty

553
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: cool up story at the end of it. And I

554
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: know Pete's just really excited for the opportunity and and

555
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: ready to see those girls that Outlet know for sure. Awesome, awesome, Well,

556
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: we're so excited to watch him. Hey, guys, thanks for

557
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Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. Thanks for sharing your moment with us.

558
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593
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,680
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594
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595
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: was that moment for Bachelor Nation in Bachelor history, not

596
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,280
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597
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599
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: I think that the producers are gonna have to figure

600
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: out a way in order to allow situations like this

601
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: too flourish again, because the way that the structure of

602
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: the show is now is, you know, it's girls with

603
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: a guy. I and then in order for them to

604
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,520
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605
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: figure out the structure. Or do they're casting differently? I

606
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's a lot in the casting.

607
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: I think you may be having to cast more queer

608
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,319
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609
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: main cast on the Bachelor of the Bachelorette. Do you

610
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: how do you think that they could go about it? Well,

611
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if they're I think it's

612
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Speaker 1: a really unique scenario. So like, is it a unique

613
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Speaker 1: scenario or they going to be able? Are they gonna

614
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: want to do it again? Well, I mean, love is love,

615
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Speaker 1: Love is love, and love is love. So like, here's

616
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Speaker 1: the DEMI makes a couple of comments that helps me

617
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Speaker 1: gain perspective into what I think is going to happen

618
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: in the future. So Demi says she felt like she

619
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of pressure coming off a Colton season.

620
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Demi says she now actually feels undeniably herself, and being

621
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Speaker 1: undeniably herself means that she is in a relationship with

622
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Speaker 1: christ And I don't know, and I would we would

623
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Speaker 1: have to ask Demmy. I don't know if Demmi fully knew,

624
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: uh what was going to happen to her relationship Christian

625
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: when she went on the Paradise. I think there was

626
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: still the question of you know, is this right? Is

627
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: this wrong? Am I going to be criticized? We saw

628
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: all season from her, and I think Paradise gave her

629
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: the platform to be confident and to explore this relationship

630
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: with Christian, which obviously led to them being happily engaged

631
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Speaker 1: and in love. So in the future, I think the

632
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: only change, I don't know if it's even a change

633
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: the show makes, it's just now they know that it's

634
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: a possibility, like it's open, it's available, it's there, like

635
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a shock when somebody comes

636
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Speaker 1: and says, hey, I actually it came down the Paradise,

637
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Speaker 1: or hey I came on the Bachelor, I came on

638
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Speaker 1: the Bachelor, and I thought I was into the Bachelor

639
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: to the lead, but I'm actually into somebody of the

640
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: same sex is me. Then I think the show now

641
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: know how to respond, and their response will be Okay,

642
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: let's make it happen. And I think that is the

643
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: big historical change. I just think that fans are going

644
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: to get annoyed if it's continuously having to bring someone

645
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: in from their own life though. So that's why I'm

646
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: saying that they're going to have to cast more more,

647
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, people who are interested in both sexes, that

648
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: the fans want to watch people in Paradise who have

649
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: been on the Bachelor Bachelor at Yeah. Like I think

650
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: this is a one time unique thing because somebody was

651
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: brought in from outside. I'm also like the last person

652
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: to say that because my sister was brought in. But

653
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: I think that that's a romantic interest. I'm not sure

654
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: if that will fly again, to bring a romantic interest

655
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: into Paradise or or could be the complete opposite other direction,

656
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 1: where now people now they've opened the floodgates to bringing

657
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: people from you know, the real world into bad Yeah.

658
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: But I but their engagement was beautiful. Um, there's so

659
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: heartfelt like the love between them truly radiates into the

660
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: family rooms in America. You know, you feel it's palpable.

661
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's something that will definitely change Bachelor Nation.

662
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: And I think that Demmi and Christian did show an

663
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: enormous amount of courage. Uh, it's no wonder they're busy today. Hey,

664
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: and as we got to tell the other couples congratulations

665
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: on behalf of the almost famous podcast on Finding Love

666
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: in Paradise, Ashley to kind of switch gears here, there

667
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: is a couple that didn't find love in Paradise and Nicole,

668
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: who we haven't seen about. You texted last night and

669
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: this morning about this. You're fired up that we did

670
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: not get to see their conversation. So before I let

671
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: you loose, ash I want to give a quick rundown

672
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: of what happened last night. We saw Clay uh not

673
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: during the fan of c suits, not able to fully

674
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: commit to Nicole. He says that he doesn't know if

675
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: he loves her, which breaks Nicole's heart because she is

676
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: in love with him. But I think Clay is saying, hey,

677
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: I want to try to make this work. I think

678
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: this is something we could do. However, it all ends.

679
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: It all ends in a kind of like abrupt way.

680
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: It felt on the beach in Paradise. I was excited

681
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: to see them kind of talk it out. It was

682
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: one of the things I was most kind of anticipating, Ashley.

683
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: We didn't see it, and I know you want to

684
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: know why, so confusing, so insider knowledge. They did film

685
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: a scene of Clay and Nicole in the hot seat.

686
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 1: They had Angela involved, All three of them were there,

687
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: and they didn't make it in I love my friends

688
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: Jade Tanner, Carly Evan and Chris and Crystal, but I

689
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit odd that they had that

690
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: little reunion segment instead of showing one of the main players.

691
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: When the some of the main cast of Bachelor in

692
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: Paradise season six, it's like super weird, especially a storyline

693
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: that seemed so not finished. Um when we saw Nicole leave,

694
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: I at least thought that she would like go home

695
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: and regret what you did, because Clay did straight up

696
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: offer to just be a girlfriend and boyfriend in real life.

697
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: She was not satisfied with not getting engaged. I personally

698
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: don't think it was the best choice. The guy was saying,

699
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: I want to be with you, just not ready to

700
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: put a ring on your finger. He just takes engagement seriously,

701
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he didn't want to do it more

702
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: than once, and he wasn't at that point yet. And

703
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how she expected him to be, because

704
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: he did just say about two or three days prior

705
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: that he wasn't even in love with her yet. So

706
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how he was gonna get from that

707
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: point to engagement point in three days. But hey, who knows. Um.

708
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: I was just I feel like my self and the

709
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: audience were super interested in seeing their hot seat and

710
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: it was bizarre that it was cut out. Super It's

711
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: super bizarre. Actley And but here's one thing I'm confused about,

712
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: and you can maybe help me a little bit because

713
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: you do have the insider information. The breakup happens, everybody's upset.

714
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: We want to watch what we didn't get to so

715
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: as fans got to go, okay, why and Clay comes

716
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: out last night to answer our question. He tweets, Yes,

717
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: I was at the reunion. They chose not to show

718
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 1: my convo with Nicole. I basically explained why I didn't

719
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: think we were far enough along to get engaged and

720
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: that I really did want to continue to date and

721
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: wished her luck. And here's why I have a question

722
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: with her new relationship. Nicole's a new relationship. Is this

723
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: is something we know? Um know? All I knew was

724
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: from Twitter that she was seeing somebody. And apparently she's

725
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: now good friends with Angela that gets bond over the

726
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: fact that Clay likes them, but then breaks up with

727
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: them while he's still interested. But not really, because Clay

728
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: didn't really break up with Nicole. She broke up with

729
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: him when he didn't extend her a proposal. Um yeah,

730
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: this is all like super weird. My only explanation as

731
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: to why it may have been cut out is perhaps

732
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: it was the exact same conversation we saw on that

733
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: engagement deck. You know. It's just like I wanted to

734
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: get engaged, you did it. I'm done. I deserve better.

735
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: You were an upfront with me. She keeps saying she

736
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: wasn't that Clay wasn't upfront with her. I sort of

737
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: feel like he kind of was. If I'm wrong, No,

738
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: I think he was. Like it was it was maybe

739
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: she felt like she needed more on why they weren't

740
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: getting engaged, but for whatever reason he was telling your Hey,

741
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: we're not far enough along. I don't think it's gonna work.

742
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: I do think Clay communicates better in his head than

743
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: he does out lead meeting. I think he knows what

744
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: he wants and what he's gonna say, but I think

745
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't always say it as well is what he's

746
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: thinking it, especially in moments like this where there's a

747
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: lot of like tension and so maybe she doesn't. It

748
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: felt like he was explaining himself well enough. True. And

749
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: I also have to say that I think that Clay

750
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: is not in the right place to be in a

751
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 1: relationship mentally or emotionally right now. He has like similar

752
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: things he needs to tackle because the way that they

753
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: parted seems to be very similar to the way that

754
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: he and Angela parted. It's just like, like I like

755
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: you a lot, but like I don't know if I

756
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: can do this yet, Like if I'm in the place

757
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: in my life, well, then you probably shouldn't be dating

758
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: people because then you're just getting their hopes up and

759
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: they're getting infested feelings. Yeah, you're right, yeah, if you're

760
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: not there yet. I mean because Nicole and Nicole and uh,

761
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: Clay had such a good thing going for so long

762
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 1: that it felt like at the very end, when there's

763
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: actually a decision that me have made, hell of a

764
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: sudden realized I'm ready and that that was too far

765
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: gone at that point, but we didn't get to see it,

766
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: and so obviously the show moved on, and what the

767
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: show moved on to was a few a lot of

768
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: time against with JPJ and Tasia. The show really is

769
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: enjoying this relationship. To backtrack a little bit more though,

770
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: during the live show, actually we saw JPJ and Derek

771
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: have it out for each other again. Still no apologies,

772
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 1: Still no conclusions, Still arguments who owes who would apology here? Um?

773
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean the biggest apology is JPJ to christ and

774
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: Crystal for acting out like that at their wedding. He

775
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: kind of half asked that apology right, kind of kind

776
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: of started tried, uh, kind of yeah, kind of see,

777
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't like totally sincere I wouldn't say, Um, I

778
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: guess I think that JPG should be apologizing to Derek. Um.

779
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 1: Jordan made it pretty clear what Derek was trying to

780
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: convey when he's you know, when he told he told

781
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: him about like Instagram and d m S and all

782
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: that stuff, and jp J I really just to think

783
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: like I took an innocent comment about lifestyle and villainize it.

784
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: And I think that I think that JPJ owes there

785
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: are going to apology if anybody, you know, if anybody

786
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: owes anyone, I don't apology. But I also think that, um,

787
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: they're just never gonna be friends, just like one of

788
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: those Bachelor in Paradise like relationships where it's just like

789
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: it's just they're never gonna be friends and they'll try

790
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: to avoid each other all the time. And I feel

791
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: like most people have somebody like that that they like

792
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 1: kind of dread, maybe running into it like bachelor family

793
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: meet up things. Yeah, I can't imagine who that would be. Um, well, hey,

794
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: I want to tease that Tai will actually be with

795
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: us in Vegas next week at the iHeart Fest. She'll

796
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: be sitting down with us to discuss all of this.

797
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: Will get some incenter from obviously because she's the one

798
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,479
Speaker 1: living it, we'll understand more of how she felt about

799
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: the JPJ derreck scenario and also what happened with her

800
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: and JPJ, because according to Reality Steve, he said that

801
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 1: JPJ and Tasha are no more, no longer together, So

802
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: you know what reality Steve has been right before. I'm

803
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: assuming he's right again, considering JPJ is not gonna be

804
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: in Vegas. So next we're supposed was he supposed to

805
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: call on the show? Yeah? Uh yeah, Well, Hey, things

806
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: happen relationships in and we'll get the inside scoop very

807
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: soon from Tassia in Las Vegas. We have some massive

808
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: things to talk about in Bachelor Nation. We have Blake

809
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: and Kaitlin, we have new Bachelor Peter Webber, and we

810
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: have Mike Johnson's new relationship with Demmilovado. So before we

811
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: get to all of that, let's take one last break

812
00:45:53,239 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: to talk about some of our favorite people. Hey. To

813
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: finish off this podcast, as we discussed, we're gonna talk

814
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: about some of the biggest news and Bachelor Nation. We

815
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: have Mike Johnson potentially dating Demilovado. Ashley, what have you heard?

816
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: What do you know? And is it true? I don't

817
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: know anything, but we are doing an in depth podcast

818
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: episode with Mike Johnson this weekend in um Vegas for

819
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: the I Heart Festival, and I am so excited to

820
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: try to pry this information out of him. I'm sure,

821
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: he'll be very coy, but I can see them being compatible.

822
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: I think they'd be a really hot couple with great

823
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: smiles together. I'm excited to hear more or at least

824
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: like even if he doesn't give us anything, like kind

825
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: of follow their relationship through the paparazzi the way that

826
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: we have been with Tyler and Gig. You know, it's

827
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome next week because in Las Vegas at

828
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: the I Heart Music Festival, we're gonna be able to

829
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: sit down with Tasha and get the inside scoop on JPJ,

830
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: something we don't need a lot of know a lot

831
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: about right now. And then also Mike Johnson with an

832
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: in depth episode talking about if he's sad he wasn't

833
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: chosen as a bachelor, if he is dating Demi Lavado,

834
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna be a question we asked and trying

835
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: to get to know who Mike Johnson is. I'm telling you,

836
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: next week is gonna be massive for this podcast, and

837
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: we're so thankful that you're gonna be around for it.

838
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Okay, Actually, we got to discuss

839
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: something serious. It's been a topic throughout Paradise this year.

840
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: It all ended, and I'm glad it did. So my

841
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: first question to you before we start talking about Blake

842
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: and Caitlin specifically, m is and I have an opinion, Okay,

843
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: if we weigh all of this out here, all of

844
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: everything that's happened, and how serious some of these accusations

845
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: have been, and how serious this uh, this topic and

846
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: this relationship or lack of relationship or whatever it is,

847
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: has been for Blake and Kitlin throughout the season. I mean,

848
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: I know I felt the weight of it. I think

849
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: you did as well, and i think Bachelor Nation did

850
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: as well. So here's my question. Is it inappropriate for anyone,

851
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: especially Blake to go to stagecoach next year? This year?

852
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: Did you talk about this last week? I forget because

853
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: somebody else asked me this question. I think I think

854
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: it was on the podcast you were in on, which

855
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: is funny, and I think Jared and I said that

856
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: it will be he like has to go for like giggles,

857
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he needs to go

858
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 1: if he goes for fun or if he goes for

859
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: you know, sponsorships or whatnot, which I'm sure a lot

860
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: will be reaching out as he's now the poster boy

861
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: for you know, hook ups that stagecoach like some beer

862
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: company out there like needs to sponsor him. Um, maybe

863
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: this isn't a joke, but I find it a little

864
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: bit amusing. And I think that if Blake were to

865
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: return to Skate Day's Coach, everything he posts that week

866
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: and his entire being needs to be super self aware

867
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: and funny. Everything's got to kind of be a joke.

868
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: You just have a hard time. Really don't want him

869
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: to return to stitute. No, because I saw how like

870
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: I was feeling for Blake when he posted his videos,

871
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: like and as a friend and concerned, and then I

872
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: also feel for Calin because of what was released and

873
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: what's been talked about her, and so just feels like

874
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: this is not like a light top maybe I think

875
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: for him today. Yeah, it's just like, hey, this has

876
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: been bad for a lot of people, and it's a

877
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: it's been It's been seriously bad for a lot of people.

878
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: And as a result, when bad things happen, like when

879
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: we know there's an environment or something that is not

880
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: healthy for us, why make a joke of it and

881
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: go back? Okay, So I guess I just think that

882
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: it'll be enough time will have passed where I think

883
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: that all like time heals wounds right. And then I

884
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: also I think that he's going to be a totally

885
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: different person starting now. You know. I just don't think

886
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: that Blake's ever going to be that playboy he may

887
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: have been the past year. And I think that both

888
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: Kalin and Blake made mistakes. Yeah, I think that the

889
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: worst mistake of all of it was probably Blake. Blake

890
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: releasing the text messages. It was pretty distasteful and not

891
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: gentlemanlike of him. I feel um, but I feel like

892
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: they'll be fine. And I thought it was all kind

893
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: of like water under the bridge until last night and

894
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: the whole controversy came up again. But it was pretty

895
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: amazing how we really didn't think about the past four

896
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: weeks as I didn't know, And that's the thing. It's

897
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: like we've moved on from it, and so it brings

898
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: us into them. Last night on the live show, we're

899
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: watching this go down for Blake, and I want to

900
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: I want to say that Blake. Obviously, it was a

901
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: long conversation. Kalen got very upset. The biggest the biggest

902
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: question to me was does Blake, oh Kalin an apology

903
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: for releasing the text messages. I think, yes, I think

904
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: he could have conveyed without text message proof. People could

905
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: believe him if they wanted to believe him, and not

906
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: believe him if they didn't want to believe him. But

907
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: he could have said something just publicly about how his

908
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: truth was a totally different thing than what she was

909
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: saying on Bachelor in Paradise. And I think if he

910
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: would have just let that week blow by without the

911
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: text message release, it would have blown by, don't you

912
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 1: Don't you think that the show kind of took care

913
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: of him in a way because towards the end we

914
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: were kind of rooting for his redemption. And I think

915
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: that when he did release those text messages, he was

916
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: really just like living and feeling in the moment and

917
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: not thinking about how short term of a memory like

918
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,240
Speaker 1: bast Do Nation has a short term memory sometimes because

919
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: next week we're always off to the next drama. So

920
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: if he was just thinking a little bit more ahead,

921
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: he'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, it's gonna pass,

922
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna look fine, I really don't the show.

923
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: Who's this? Very few people are very few few people

924
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: demonstrate behavior on the show that is like persistently bad.

925
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: There's not many Luke's out there. You know, almost everyone

926
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: has a reputation healed in somewhere or another. Yeah, especially

927
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: through Parodise. I feel like Periodise is there for redemption. Um.

928
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: Actually one last question here. Blake sits there the hot seat.

929
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: I think he knows he's wrong. Kyle though she's wrong,

930
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 1: but the masses disagree with Blake. I felt like everybody

931
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: in that cast group said, Blake, you've done this wrong.

932
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: You need to apologize it. He still doesn't. Why has

933
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: the masses gone against him? Then? If all of this

934
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: seems have been cleared up in Paradise, why is it

935
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: that they still are holding onto this resentment? Because what's

936
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: happened between Paradise and that reunion show was the release

937
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: of the text messages. Okay, all right, right, and I

938
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: think that's what people found really disas well they dealt

939
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: with all the other drama while they're filming in June. Yeah,

940
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Actually, once again, you are the expert. Okay,

941
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: to close out this podcast, we have a lot to

942
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: talk about. When it comes to this man, he will

943
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: be the person who we talk about now for months

944
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: and months to come. There's still a long time till

945
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: we get to find his journey as the Bachelor continue.

946
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: But Peter Webber Pilot Pete has been announced as the batchelor.

947
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Here's a little bit about Pilot Pilot Pete. He loves

948
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: his family, he has has all the faith in the

949
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: world that's gonna work for him, so he believes it.

950
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: Loves ex thists from this show, and he's gonna follow

951
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: Hannah Be's footsteps on how she did it. He's scared

952
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: to death of dating thirty women, but he knows he

953
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: knows that he can do it if he stays himself.

954
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: And finally, one of the most interesting things is he's

955
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: only five minutes from the mansion. His house where he

956
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: grew up is five minutes from the mansion. The mind

957
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: boggling part of it all to me, it's so weird

958
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: because I remember the mansion felt like a different planet

959
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: when I was there. Instead, he's gonna look out the

960
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: back door and see this thing for himself. Okay, actually,

961
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: there's some great candidates this year. Obviously, Tyler kind of

962
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: took himself out of the running. Mike was up there

963
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: and it was really I guess down to Mike and Peter, Uh,

964
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: what do you think? How do you feel? I know

965
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some controversy around this. I know that

966
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: people are going to believe that Mike Johnson should have

967
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: been the Bachelor, But I also think people are super

968
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: excited about watching Peter do Peter, and I think that

969
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: people are really excited about the possibility of Mike and

970
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: Debbi being together. So I think that people might, like, um,

971
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: be a little bit more okay with the Peter decision

972
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: if Mike does end updating Demi and they get to

973
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: watch that unfold in you know, magazines and on E

974
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: news and all that, I think that they I think

975
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are going to be upset

976
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: with the fact that they seem to have a great

977
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: candidate for the first black Bachelor and they didn't go

978
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: for it. Um, Peter seems super sweet. Um, I feel

979
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: like I don't have like a strong opinion on Peter.

980
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: I think we had a lot to say about the

981
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: past couple other Bachelor's that were, you know, announced the

982
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: past couple of years for this podcast. You know, there

983
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: was Nick and Ari and then Um Colton, and people

984
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: had like really strong feelings again about those and this season,

985
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, Peter, yeah, he's sweet, He's like

986
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: really vanilla, you know, I think that's what everybody would say.

987
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: But I always trust the Bachelor producers in choosing great

988
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: bachelors because they've done it time and time again. I

989
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,240
Speaker 1: know there's been a couple of question marks, but even

990
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: the ones that people didn't like fall in love with

991
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: as like human beings, maybe like Juan Pablo, they did

992
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: provide outstanding entertainment. And all you guys really want out

993
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: there is to be entertained and for it to be

994
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: drama and juicy. And you know, we see Peter as

995
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: an emotional guy. Nick was emotional, Um Colton was crying

996
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: all the time. So those those do make for really

997
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 1: good bachelors and we'll see, you know, all we really

998
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: need is a very dramatic bunch of girls, which they

999
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: always provide. What do you think about the choice, Ben,

1000
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: I think Peter is gonna be awesome, I do. I mean,

1001
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: I think Mike would have been great too. I don't

1002
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: think they could have gone wrong. I think the show

1003
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: will will have controversy, or this comment leading up to

1004
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: the show will because they didn't choose Mike. But if

1005
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: we just take everything into consideration that now Peter is

1006
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: the bad so that's not changing. I think he's gonna

1007
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: do awesome. I think he's gonna care deeply. Uh, We're

1008
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: going to see a beautiful love story unfold. I do

1009
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: believe that. And I think Peter is going to be

1010
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: authentically himself the whole time. And I do believe there's

1011
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: going to be a comfort because he lives so close.

1012
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm excited for it. I'm a fan of Peter. I

1013
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: think he'll get very similar criticisms to what I did,

1014
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: um and ultimately at them as to what you did boring, Vanella,

1015
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: like I did say, Vanilla, you you know but you.

1016
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: I do feel as if they chose him because they're

1017
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: hoping that he's been two point out. Like I've been

1018
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: saying ever since we were introduced to him, that there

1019
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: is something reminiscent about you in him. And I don't

1020
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: know that's just because you're like these innocent, seeming all

1021
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: American men, but there's something. And I really think that

1022
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: you were in their heads when they thought about casting

1023
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Peter Well then then I either way, I wish the

1024
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: best for him, and I hope Vanilla ben Well, I

1025
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: hope not. I can't really say that about myself, but

1026
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: I will say that, Um, for me, I really felt

1027
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: supported by the masses, and I really felt like people

1028
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: in kind of came along with me in this crazy experience.

1029
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: And I hope the same for him, and I hope

1030
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: when he gets off the show he feels that. And

1031
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: even if he is a little bit um, even if

1032
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: he isn't as as controversial, that's okay because it's really

1033
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: up to the women on the show to to bring

1034
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: the drama. And then also his only role is to

1035
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: pursue this thing with the best of his ability, and

1036
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: if he does that, I think I think all of

1037
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: us will enjoy watching. Hey Peter, congratulations, we have our

1038
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: new Bachelor. The Almost Famous podcast a stop anytime soon,

1039
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: so we'll be talking about the Bachelor for months and months,

1040
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: maybe years and years and years to come. Ashley, what

1041
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: a podcast, What a Bachelor in Paradise season. We've closed

1042
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: another book in the Almost Famous podcast history and there

1043
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: are some lovely couples to show for Ashley, once again,

1044
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: You're the best. We'll be back next week with some

1045
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: exciting conversations with Mike Johnson and Tasha will be live

1046
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,040
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1047
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,160
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1049
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1050
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