WEBVTT - Gavin a Game Night 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.360 This is how Men Thing with brooks Like and Gavin 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.920 Gros and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:10.720 of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like and 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.560 I got my dude, Mr Gavin de Gros. Yeah you too, buddy, 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:16.599 could be back. I've been getting to see you a 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.080 lot lately, too much, right, No, never tired of this guy. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.079 By the way, I like your sweater today. I know 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:26.080 you're talking about fashion before. Yeah, don't know what that is. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:29.840 Looks simple, looks like a good take on simple. How 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:35.720 they recommend this brand. It's called Brooks Brand sweaters coming out. 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:37.640 Maybe that's my new player. I got a new thing 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.159 called Brooks Brand sweaters. It's actually a Noble sweater. Noble 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.519 noble and O b U l L. And everyone comments 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.800 on this sweater. Tory commentsed on this sweater before. It's 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:54.440 very nice, asked and everything. Yeah, this is a difference. Um, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.840 I'm just trying to keep the large okay, just trying 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.560 to keep up with you. Man. You got voted as 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.400 you can Tasia Adams voted you recently as like more 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.600 fashionable than No. No. I got dissed and yelled dissed me, 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.560 and it was like I don't like scarves. I think 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.080 it's called out that scarf was dope, thank you very much. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.920 It was Danielle Is coming to send us the straight um. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.720 That scarf was just not making any warm. So it 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.120 was the point of it. It was making me warm. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.320 It was an accessory piece of it. That's pretty much 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.560 like he was. He was accessorized. What if I had 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.360 to drive my hands in the bathroom and I don't 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.479 want to get stuff into bathroom? Very practical, that's right 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:41.520 where that scar travel with hand towels. That's what I say. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.959 You know what we're gonna do today, buddy, I guess 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.040 the answer is we're gonna have a way. We're gonna 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:54.240 have a fireside chat today. That's a good ideas fireside 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.200 And what's going to happen is Tory has a bunch 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:58.880 of questions and so this is like a get to 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:01.400 know Gavin, get to know Brooks type day. Can I 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.160 say something before we continue? It is a podcast. I'm 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.200 not a gas fireplace fan. Just in general. I like 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.760 the crackle of wood fire. Everybody talking about the environment stuff, 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.520 I get it, I understand, but if the thing doesn't 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:20.360 crackle and move, it's just not really fire. I get you. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.480 I agreed. At our lake house, we have multiple fireplaces 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.640 and we just feed wood into those. Man, those are 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.960 it just it makes the whole smell. That smell, it 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.720 is my favorite scent in the world, best best. I 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:37.720 love Carstena Jins. So anyway, that being that little tangent 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:40.320 being said, we're going to do get to know Gavin today. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.679 Our viewers, our listeners. The one way they want to 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.560 know who Gavin to grow is you know what, I 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.560 want to know who Gavin grow. We're going to try 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.600 and figure that out. So can you ever figure that out? 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.320 I think it ever changes with him. One word you 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.000 would use to describe Gavin, I would use three shock 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.200 and awe. I was literally just saying this. We're having 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.560 lunched outs to so I was like, Gavin likes to 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.760 hit people with the old shock and awe because when 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:06.239 he saw the people are like look at him for 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.520 a second, and then he like he holds it and 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.680 then he furthers his thoughts and you can always see 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:17.639 like a perplexion on the face of somebody. It's like, huh, 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.160 it's a little shock and awe. So that's how I 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:24.160 would I would describe gave thanks, but they're also very 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.680 profound and very deep. How would you just make fun 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:42.800 Brooks thoughtful, kind and adventurous? My man appreciate. Yeah, I 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.880 feel like like he gave me a better review. Like 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.200 I feel like my review didn't do him justice. I 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.520 don't need to be done justice is what is one 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.880 thing you wish you had that Gavin has? Like? What quality? 0:03:55.200 --> 0:04:02.960 Mm hmm. I'm really no, No, actually it's not. It's 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:04.720 not that I can't come up without it. I'm trying 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.720 to think of like something like when you enter a room, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.200 you meet every single person in that room. Yeah, you 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.160 always meet every person. You introduce yourself to every single person. 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:20.680 You want every single person to feel included, you meet them, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.760 you all whenever you show up, you always show up 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:26.359 high energy. I love that you're always and everybody in 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:30.280 the room could tell you're in the room, and you 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.800 are too. You're an extremely kind and caring person. You 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.760 have a tough outer shell, but I undeniably know it's 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.200 your heart that you're an extremely kind and caring person 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:46.200 and people matter to you. Um, you love people? Yeah, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:47.880 you do. I know you do. I try to see 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:51.000 the good people, I really do, and I give everybody 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:54.920 the benefit of the doubt, of the doubt off the bat, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.800 and I even let them be a dick for the 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.919 first couple of minutes if it need to be, you 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.400 know what I mean, to get past that first moment, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.520 You know what I mean. And I think it's important 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.120 to kind of give people that, you know, just a 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.920 little grace period, a little grace period, because some people 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:14.919 are just a little bit more awkward than other people 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.440 at first, and I try to give them a little 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.600 bit of that leeway, you know, because not everybody is 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.680 warm at first, you know. Um, sometimes I could be 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:26.719 like a little bit socially aggressive, like hey, what's up? 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.400 Are you good to meet you man? Blah blah blah, 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.720 And some people someone would be like like this, what's 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.480 up with Mr Social? You know so? And I understand 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.599 that too, So I got I give them a little 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:41.560 leeway with that too, you know, got you Okay, So 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.720 we are going to get into get to know Gavin, 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.720 get to know Brooks a little fireside chat right after 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:52.760 this break. Hello Fresh America's number one meal kit. Hello 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.560 Fresh makes cooking at home fun, easy and affordable. 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I think that Brooks has done 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:02.240 wild already in other fat sits of his life, and 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:08.400 that's helped sort of create a relaxed mindset for him 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:09.920 in a lot of ways. And why do you think 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.720 you don't have calm? Because I spent a lot of 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:22.040 my time suppressing my wild Did you say suppressing? Because 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.520 this is the tip of the iceberg, you know, what 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:32.200 is my behavior what we're seeing? Yeah? Yeah, but really 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.760 you want more? I'm left always being like, what else 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:40.120 does he have up his sleeve? Yeah? Um, I feel 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:45.319 like I have a really good grasp on gave. I'm 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.480 very careful about a lot of things because of the 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.440 type of job that I do and things like that. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.520 I can be careful with my hands, I have to 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.920 be careful with my voice. I have to be careful 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.960 physically about certain things. So I really had babied a 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.520 lot of things that I normally would't have babied if 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.280 this wasn't my career, you know what I mean. Besides 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:10.880 a family member or a manager, who knows you best, Joey, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.480 my best buddy Joey, No, my brother, probably the best. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.439 Besides family or co workers. Who knows you the best, 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:25.000 probably my buddy Joey or my buddy Fezzy Fez from 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:29.320 Keith Andrew. I mean, there's a group of guys so 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.560 I'm real tight with Yeah. We call him Fest because 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.439 he looks like Yeah, So everybody started calling Fest. But 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.000 there's a group of guys. They know different versions of me, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.120 you know what I mean, and each one of so 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.800 I've got a lot of colors, you know what I mean, 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:49.120 personality wise, And each of my friends fits into a 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:53.360 different I think each of them brings out different shades 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.360 of those different different colors of me. You don't understand 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.640 what I'm saying. Here's a question for you. Do you 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:05.439 feel you'll internally like you cannot decide which of those 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.920 shades you truthfully are and you are hoping to step 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:13.280 into full time being one of those shades. I'm all 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.880 of them. I mean, I'm somebody who always went from 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.240 table to table growing up, you know what I mean, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:25.559 Like at lunch, I'd go to ten tables and sit 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:31.440 there hungry, friends, very so hungry. No, just because that 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:36.880 was my personality type, you know what I mean. And 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.079 and I fit in different groups for different reasons, you 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.839 know what i mean. So you know, I had friends 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.800 who were the nerdier group, nerdier groups or whatever because 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.079 I got good grades. And then I played sports, so 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.680 my other friends were more of the jocks. And then 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.960 I enjoyed music, and so I had music friends, and 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.160 then the theater and he had theater friends. And then 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.240 you know, you're like, you know, you understand. So I 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:04.920 had a lot of different interests and those interests. Um uh, 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.040 I had aptitudes and all of the all of those interests. Fortunately, 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.480 and so you know, I had a very diverse group 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:17.480 of people who I associated with or got along with, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:22.160 and not any of them necessarily got along with each other. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.240 That makes sense, you know what I mean, Because I 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.040 was just my personality type. You were kind of the 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.840 middleman that brought he just common ground to anyone. But 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.680 you couldn't really put all those groups together. I couldn't 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:36.000 put those groups together. You know, they were so separate, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.160 you know what I mean, Like you understand advanced placement group, 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.360 but that you're also you know, you're you're playing street ball, 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.280 you know what I mean. It was just a different 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.080 you know, it was the same for me, like a 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:50.439 lot of I was. I was part of the athlete group, 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.120 but I also had other groups I didn't. I didn't 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.800 and some some like I remember some of the hockey guys, uh, 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.360 Like in school when I was in grade ten or 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.880 eleven or two, of the hockey guys only hung with 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.040 the hockey guys like they hung in the click. And 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.880 I was like, like, people are people, you know, like 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:08.680 that you don't have to be on the hockey team 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:09.920 for me to be friends with you. And that was 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.280 the same way when I played hockey. We still had 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:15.240 friends in the community that I was playing in that 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.640 weren't hockey players. Um, so I assimilate with that very 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.480 much totally. I just had a conversation about it with 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.040 buddy of mine if I grew up with He was like, yeah, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:29.720 I remember me, like you got to be like sixteen fifteen, sixteens, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.600 Like yeah, we'd call you come play ball, and You're like, no, man, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.360 I gotta work. I'm working on these songs. And I 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.320 kind of felt in love so much the music that 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.120 I yanked myself out of playing ball. And then they'd 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.200 be like, man, we're playing a game. Man, you don't 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.600 want to be out here. It's you know, we're going 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.840 to the next town. We're gonna play those guys and whatever. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.880 I'm like, no, man, I got I got a gig 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:50.640 in three days. Man, I want to get the songs 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.880 up and ready and so. But it was nice having 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.800 those invites, and you know, I still loved all those guys, 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:59.680 but my ultimately, my interest in music kind of sucked 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.200 out of a lot of those those those things that 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.360 I enjoyed a lot, you know, that makes sense, you 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.040 need to do. But I still love those guys, and 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.120 I still played ball here and there. It just wasn't 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:12.280 as it wasn't as much. The same thing happened to 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.680 me when I was fifteen. I stopped playing baseball because 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.199 I started playing summer hockey. So they play hockey through 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:18.920 the fall and winter, and then I play hockey in 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.400 the summer where I used to play baseball too. Yeah, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.160 you get it. You get pulled, you get pulled away, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.600 but with interest. But you still have those friends there 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.200 because you They knew you were competitive and you're cool 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.400 on whatever, so they wanted to you know, you understand 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.280 what I'm saying. Yeah, And the true friends, the ones 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.400 that are actually your true friends, actually just support you 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.040 in your mission to know they see what it means 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.120 to you. And the other ones that maybe aren't your friends, 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.280 it's a filter. That sort of separation is a filter, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.160 and they'll be like, oh, he's too cool, he's doing 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.079 his own thing or whatever. But your true friends yet 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.520 there there for you agreed, How would you guys describe 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.280 your high school self? And maybe like a couple of words. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.560 This is very easy for me. I was non existent 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.760 high school when I was thirteen. I was already nineteen 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:03.360 year old playing pro hockey. That is where my mindset was. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.520 So like, my friends used to try and get me 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.760 go drinking, and you're trying to get me go to parties, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.560 used try and get me to smoke. Um. And these 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.880 were my grooms and these are best friends in the world. 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.600 And I would just sit there and be like, thirteen, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.640 fourteen fifty. I'd just be like laughing. I was like, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.520 you guys don't even know it. Well, you know it, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.480 but I have the NHL in the palm of my 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.360 hand four years from now, Like I'm already four years 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.920 from now playing in the NHL. UM. And they were 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.960 just they were teenage kids in school, and so I 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.920 was like, I have to be in school for now 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.440 because this is part of the process. But I'm already 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.400 three or four years from now. So I didn't School 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.520 to me was completely irrelevant dating and like high school 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.960 and those problems and issues and peer pressure was all 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.280 irrelevant for me because I was just I was lasered 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.520 on making the NHL. So I wouldn't say my my 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.560 like my high school years were normal at all. But 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.000 how would you describe yourself and focus just like focus. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.680 And what was the other one? You said, irrelevant school. 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:04.480 It was just the first one, he said. I don't know. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.600 It was just I wanted to matter. I wanted to Yeah, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:09.680 it just didn't matter. I wanted to be somewhere. I 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:11.280 knew where I was going, and I wanted to be there. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.400 I mean, there's multiple years in high school and each 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:20.880 one was you know, different. It's totally totally and it 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.120 sleeps and bounds. I mean, those years are so uh, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.720 they're they're they're big years of your life, you know. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.960 Um see that's where I disagree, like those years were 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.800 nothing for me. Well, thirteen to seventeen is a giant 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.840 change in my opinion. I mean when I was thirteen, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.840 it went from like you know, went from like g 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:47.680 I Joe to you know, medical school. And I was like, oh, 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.480 I'm gonna go to medical school to me, I'll probably 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.840 end up medical school. You know. I was really religious, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.720 and I thought, I want to make the Blind Sea 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.160 like Jesus did. I'm going to be an ophomologist, and 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.240 that's what I want to do. I've already played mu Zick, 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.640 but I thought it would be a selfish lifestyle. I 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:04.400 went to a concert, and I was like, no, this 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.400 is good. This heals people, this helps people. I decided 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.720 to play music. I was fifteen when that happened. That's 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:13.880 so cool. Weird, right, it's silly, but it's so cool 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.680 if you got into music because it heals people and 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.200 helps people. I already played music, but I didn't think 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:20.560 that's a career it would be the right thing to 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.520 do because I felt like it was such a personal 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:28.840 thing to me and it seemed selfish. It's weird, right, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.600 So so then but I thought, well, this would be selfish. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.320 But then when I saw a contract I saw believe 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.320 jel play, I went wow. I looked at the people 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.680 around me. I thought, wow, this is this is medicine. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.920 Music is medicine. This this is not selfish. I should 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.160 do this, you know. But that really can really change 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:50.640 my focus from it being this this hobby, this uh 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:52.840 you know, something I did just for me too. Wow, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.800 this is this is something I should do because because 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.080 it only not only makes me happy, but it'll it'll 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:02.440 it'll be good for people to other people too. Um 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:05.520 So then, um so for me, those years were very 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.439 big because those are the years that changed me, you know. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.040 I mean, I literally remember having a meeting as a 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.680 kid as uh, probably a fourteen, fourteen year old with principle, 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.200 you know, and uh and I remember I said the principle. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.879 I said, listen, I'm wasting my time here in high school. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.800 I need to pursue medicine. This is this is the 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.120 time in my life where I need to be focused. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.080 I need moving ahead. Why am I reading Shakespeare? I 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.080 don't want to read Shakespeare. Ironically, I've become what a writer. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:39.520 I've become a songwriter. Right, So, so I didn't know. 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.119 I thought I knew, but I didn't. You know, the 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.639 big life moment hadn't happened for me yet to truly 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:50.800 find my direction. And um, amazingly, just having that opportunity 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.760 allowed me to really choose my direction. And then and 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.560 then from that point on, you know, everything changed. Academics 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:01.720 became less important. You know. I still did well in school, 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.480 but by the time I got accepted the college, you know, 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.200 I changed completely. Once that happened, I was like, forget. 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.880 I started wearing pajamas to school, you know what I mean, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.919 bringing a pillow, putting down on the desk when the 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.320 teacher started talking, going to sleep, laying on the table 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.520 in the back. You know, it became different leaving school 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.479 early because it was done for me. I had my direction, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.960 I want to play music, and it was somewhere else. 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.600 It was. It was exactly the same way you talk 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:31.119 about hockey. The second you made that full decision that 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.400 you really knew what it was you were chasing. Everything 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.480 else was just kind of in the way. You know, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.359 they were like they were just just That's why I 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.040 said high school, you were just slapping out of your way, 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:43.240 you know what I mean. There were it was a 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.600 slalomn course and you were just slapping down the you 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.280 know those those polls you know, Um, it was the 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.320 exact same for me, and um that happened younger for me. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.920 But then my grade twelve of my last year in school, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.439 second half of the of the semester, second semester, like 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.639 I didn't go to school hardly at all. All. I 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.959 had like a hundred and thirty absences, Like I just 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.040 my teachers would be like, I'd be like, why am 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.160 I coming to school. I'm not going to school next year. 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.480 I'm trying to make pro hockey totally. Why do I 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.159 need to be in this math? You want me to 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.160 share another odd thing piece of information. Apparently I had 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:20.720 set the school record from tardiness. I don't believe it. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.680 I think you've definitely set the I heart I heard 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.840 podcast record for tardiness as well. But you made it 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.439 here today, and whenever you show up, you do show up, 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.280 Buddy said, So, okay, we're gonna get it. We'renna take 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.439 a break. We're getting into more questions. Get to know Gavin, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:44.159 get to know Brooks. Coming back after this. Okay, we 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.639 are back from break and we have producer Tory ready 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.040 to ask us some fun questions. We're gonna have some 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.240 fun questions and see if we can find a way 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:56.840 to add some value here. Are you ready? By the way, 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.479 let's just preface Yeah, let's just preface this. Gavin and 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.960 I have no idea what kind of questions are coming 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.119 our way. She's got some cards. What do you have 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:06.720 their tea? Can you set this up for us? I 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.560 have some table topics and they're just like little cocktail. 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:11.040 You know, this would actually be great for like a 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:14.280 first take and to know someone. Um, I think they're 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:22.800 just called table topics. Aren't they order them a speak? 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:26.400 It's a little speed date right here. Okay, where would 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.680 you wake up tomorrow? If you could choose? Where would 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.680 I wake up tomorrow? If I could choose Rome, I'd 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.119 wake up in Rome. I've never been to Room of One. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.040 I watched Gladiator again the other day in the Colosseum. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.119 Has always been calling me. Um. I would wake up 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:51.840 in Rome tomorrow. Ah, somewhere in Hawaii probably? Why is nice? 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.440 Which last trips? Why? It was pretty amazing? Which island 0:20:55.480 --> 0:21:01.320 did you go to? Um Onto? The Big Island? Is 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:05.080 that the one I went to? I think so? I 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.800 have some friends were all the were most of the 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:12.520 volcanic activity. I went on this unbelievable trick through a 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:20.000 collapsed volcano. Oh, it's crazy. Uh. And then um let 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.080 me drove to thegether side of the island, more local, 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:27.280 and uh, that was just it was just awesome, man, 0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:31.119 Just the views and and sort of like the terrain 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.359 was so extreme from one side of the island to 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.520 the other. It was like you were traveling through time 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.800 because you'd see all that, just the volcanic activity, and 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:44.160 then the results of volcanic activity, and then sort of 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.520 as the progression of growth as the island got healthier 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.760 and healthier, it's just it's a superredible island. Crazy crazy, 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:56.280 that's ride. Wake up tomorrow, t what's the next? If 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.040 you could be any age again for one week, what 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.680 age would you be. Oh, that's a great question. If 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.440 you could be any age again for one week, what 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:09.720