Speaker 1: This is how Men Thing with brooks Like and Gavin
Speaker 1: Gros and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like and
Speaker 1: I got my dude, Mr Gavin de Gros. Yeah you too, buddy,
Speaker 1: could be back. I've been getting to see you a
Speaker 1: lot lately, too much, right, No, never tired of this guy.
Speaker 1: By the way, I like your sweater today. I know
Speaker 1: you're talking about fashion before. Yeah, don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: Looks simple, looks like a good take on simple. How
Speaker 1: they recommend this brand. It's called Brooks Brand sweaters coming out.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's my new player. I got a new thing
Speaker 1: called Brooks Brand sweaters. It's actually a Noble sweater. Noble
Speaker 1: noble and O b U l L. And everyone comments
Speaker 1: on this sweater. Tory commentsed on this sweater before. It's
Speaker 1: very nice, asked and everything. Yeah, this is a difference. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep the large okay, just trying
Speaker 1: to keep up with you. Man. You got voted as
Speaker 1: you can Tasia Adams voted you recently as like more
Speaker 1: fashionable than No. No. I got dissed and yelled dissed me,
Speaker 1: and it was like I don't like scarves. I think
Speaker 1: it's called out that scarf was dope, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: It was Danielle Is coming to send us the straight um.
Speaker 1: That scarf was just not making any warm. So it
Speaker 1: was the point of it. It was making me warm.
Speaker 1: It was an accessory piece of it. That's pretty much
Speaker 1: like he was. He was accessorized. What if I had
Speaker 1: to drive my hands in the bathroom and I don't
Speaker 1: want to get stuff into bathroom? Very practical, that's right
Speaker 1: where that scar travel with hand towels. That's what I say.
Speaker 1: You know what we're gonna do today, buddy, I guess
Speaker 1: the answer is we're gonna have a way. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have a fireside chat today. That's a good ideas fireside
Speaker 1: And what's going to happen is Tory has a bunch
Speaker 1: of questions and so this is like a get to
Speaker 1: know Gavin, get to know Brooks type day. Can I
Speaker 1: say something before we continue? It is a podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: not a gas fireplace fan. Just in general. I like
Speaker 1: the crackle of wood fire. Everybody talking about the environment stuff,
Speaker 1: I get it, I understand, but if the thing doesn't
Speaker 1: crackle and move, it's just not really fire. I get you.
Speaker 1: I agreed. At our lake house, we have multiple fireplaces
Speaker 1: and we just feed wood into those. Man, those are
Speaker 1: it just it makes the whole smell. That smell, it
Speaker 1: is my favorite scent in the world, best best. I
Speaker 1: love Carstena Jins. So anyway, that being that little tangent
Speaker 1: being said, we're going to do get to know Gavin today.
Speaker 1: Our viewers, our listeners. The one way they want to
Speaker 1: know who Gavin to grow is you know what, I
Speaker 1: want to know who Gavin grow. We're going to try
Speaker 1: and figure that out. So can you ever figure that out?
Speaker 1: I think it ever changes with him. One word you
Speaker 1: would use to describe Gavin, I would use three shock
Speaker 1: and awe. I was literally just saying this. We're having
Speaker 1: lunched outs to so I was like, Gavin likes to
Speaker 1: hit people with the old shock and awe because when
Speaker 1: he saw the people are like look at him for
Speaker 1: a second, and then he like he holds it and
Speaker 1: then he furthers his thoughts and you can always see
Speaker 1: like a perplexion on the face of somebody. It's like, huh,
Speaker 1: it's a little shock and awe. So that's how I
Speaker 1: would I would describe gave thanks, but they're also very
Speaker 1: profound and very deep. How would you just make fun
Speaker 1: Brooks thoughtful, kind and adventurous? My man appreciate. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like like he gave me a better review. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like my review didn't do him justice. I
Speaker 1: don't need to be done justice is what is one
Speaker 1: thing you wish you had that Gavin has? Like? What quality?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm really no, No, actually it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not that I can't come up without it. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think of like something like when you enter a room,
Speaker 1: you meet every single person in that room. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: always meet every person. You introduce yourself to every single person.
Speaker 1: You want every single person to feel included, you meet them,
Speaker 1: you all whenever you show up, you always show up
Speaker 1: high energy. I love that you're always and everybody in
Speaker 1: the room could tell you're in the room, and you
Speaker 1: are too. You're an extremely kind and caring person. You
Speaker 1: have a tough outer shell, but I undeniably know it's
Speaker 1: your heart that you're an extremely kind and caring person
Speaker 1: and people matter to you. Um, you love people? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you do. I know you do. I try to see
Speaker 1: the good people, I really do, and I give everybody
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, of the doubt off the bat,
Speaker 1: and I even let them be a dick for the
Speaker 1: first couple of minutes if it need to be, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, to get past that first moment,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And I think it's important
Speaker 1: to kind of give people that, you know, just a
Speaker 1: little grace period, a little grace period, because some people
Speaker 1: are just a little bit more awkward than other people
Speaker 1: at first, and I try to give them a little
Speaker 1: bit of that leeway, you know, because not everybody is
Speaker 1: warm at first, you know. Um, sometimes I could be
Speaker 1: like a little bit socially aggressive, like hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: Are you good to meet you man? Blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: And some people someone would be like like this, what's
Speaker 1: up with Mr Social? You know so? And I understand
Speaker 1: that too, So I got I give them a little
Speaker 1: leeway with that too, you know, got you Okay, So
Speaker 1: we are going to get into get to know Gavin,
Speaker 1: get to know Brooks a little fireside chat right after
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Speaker 1: quality Brooks has that you wish you had? I love
Speaker 1: Brooks is calm mhmm. What do you think that's rooted
Speaker 1: in and for him? I think that Brooks has done
Speaker 1: wild already in other fat sits of his life, and
Speaker 1: that's helped sort of create a relaxed mindset for him
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. And why do you think
Speaker 1: you don't have calm? Because I spent a lot of
Speaker 1: my time suppressing my wild Did you say suppressing? Because
Speaker 1: this is the tip of the iceberg, you know, what
Speaker 1: is my behavior what we're seeing? Yeah? Yeah, but really
Speaker 1: you want more? I'm left always being like, what else
Speaker 1: does he have up his sleeve? Yeah? Um, I feel
Speaker 1: like I have a really good grasp on gave. I'm
Speaker 1: very careful about a lot of things because of the
Speaker 1: type of job that I do and things like that.
Speaker 1: I can be careful with my hands, I have to
Speaker 1: be careful with my voice. I have to be careful
Speaker 1: physically about certain things. So I really had babied a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I normally would't have babied if
Speaker 1: this wasn't my career, you know what I mean. Besides
Speaker 1: a family member or a manager, who knows you best, Joey,
Speaker 1: my best buddy Joey, No, my brother, probably the best.
Speaker 1: Besides family or co workers. Who knows you the best,
Speaker 1: probably my buddy Joey or my buddy Fezzy Fez from
Speaker 1: Keith Andrew. I mean, there's a group of guys so
Speaker 1: I'm real tight with Yeah. We call him Fest because
Speaker 1: he looks like Yeah, So everybody started calling Fest. But
Speaker 1: there's a group of guys. They know different versions of me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and each one of so
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of colors, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: personality wise, And each of my friends fits into a
Speaker 1: different I think each of them brings out different shades
Speaker 1: of those different different colors of me. You don't understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Here's a question for you. Do you
Speaker 1: feel you'll internally like you cannot decide which of those
Speaker 1: shades you truthfully are and you are hoping to step
Speaker 1: into full time being one of those shades. I'm all
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, I'm somebody who always went from
Speaker 1: table to table growing up, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like at lunch, I'd go to ten tables and sit
Speaker 1: there hungry, friends, very so hungry. No, just because that
Speaker 1: was my personality type, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: and I fit in different groups for different reasons, you
Speaker 1: know what i mean. So you know, I had friends
Speaker 1: who were the nerdier group, nerdier groups or whatever because
Speaker 1: I got good grades. And then I played sports, so
Speaker 1: my other friends were more of the jocks. And then
Speaker 1: I enjoyed music, and so I had music friends, and
Speaker 1: then the theater and he had theater friends. And then
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, you know, you understand. So I
Speaker 1: had a lot of different interests and those interests. Um uh,
Speaker 1: I had aptitudes and all of the all of those interests. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I had a very diverse group
Speaker 1: of people who I associated with or got along with,
Speaker 1: and not any of them necessarily got along with each other.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, you know what I mean, Because I
Speaker 1: was just my personality type. You were kind of the
Speaker 1: middleman that brought he just common ground to anyone. But
Speaker 1: you couldn't really put all those groups together. I couldn't
Speaker 1: put those groups together. You know, they were so separate,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you understand advanced placement group,
Speaker 1: but that you're also you know, you're you're playing street ball,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just a different
Speaker 1: you know, it was the same for me, like a
Speaker 1: lot of I was. I was part of the athlete group,
Speaker 1: but I also had other groups I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: and some some like I remember some of the hockey guys, uh,
Speaker 1: Like in school when I was in grade ten or
Speaker 1: eleven or two, of the hockey guys only hung with
Speaker 1: the hockey guys like they hung in the click. And
Speaker 1: I was like, like, people are people, you know, like
Speaker 1: that you don't have to be on the hockey team
Speaker 1: for me to be friends with you. And that was
Speaker 1: the same way when I played hockey. We still had
Speaker 1: friends in the community that I was playing in that
Speaker 1: weren't hockey players. Um, so I assimilate with that very
Speaker 1: much totally. I just had a conversation about it with
Speaker 1: buddy of mine if I grew up with He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember me, like you got to be like sixteen fifteen, sixteens,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, we'd call you come play ball, and You're like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta work. I'm working on these songs. And I
Speaker 1: kind of felt in love so much the music that
Speaker 1: I yanked myself out of playing ball. And then they'd
Speaker 1: be like, man, we're playing a game. Man, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be out here. It's you know, we're going
Speaker 1: to the next town. We're gonna play those guys and whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, man, I got I got a gig
Speaker 1: in three days. Man, I want to get the songs
Speaker 1: up and ready and so. But it was nice having
Speaker 1: those invites, and you know, I still loved all those guys,
Speaker 1: but my ultimately, my interest in music kind of sucked
Speaker 1: out of a lot of those those those things that
Speaker 1: I enjoyed a lot, you know, that makes sense, you
Speaker 1: need to do. But I still love those guys, and
Speaker 1: I still played ball here and there. It just wasn't
Speaker 1: as it wasn't as much. The same thing happened to
Speaker 1: me when I was fifteen. I stopped playing baseball because
Speaker 1: I started playing summer hockey. So they play hockey through
Speaker 1: the fall and winter, and then I play hockey in
Speaker 1: the summer where I used to play baseball too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get it. You get pulled, you get pulled away,
Speaker 1: but with interest. But you still have those friends there
Speaker 1: because you They knew you were competitive and you're cool
Speaker 1: on whatever, so they wanted to you know, you understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, And the true friends, the ones
Speaker 1: that are actually your true friends, actually just support you
Speaker 1: in your mission to know they see what it means
Speaker 1: to you. And the other ones that maybe aren't your friends,
Speaker 1: it's a filter. That sort of separation is a filter,
Speaker 1: and they'll be like, oh, he's too cool, he's doing
Speaker 1: his own thing or whatever. But your true friends yet
Speaker 1: there there for you agreed, How would you guys describe
Speaker 1: your high school self? And maybe like a couple of words.
Speaker 1: This is very easy for me. I was non existent
Speaker 1: high school when I was thirteen. I was already nineteen
Speaker 1: year old playing pro hockey. That is where my mindset was.
Speaker 1: So like, my friends used to try and get me
Speaker 1: go drinking, and you're trying to get me go to parties,
Speaker 1: used try and get me to smoke. Um. And these
Speaker 1: were my grooms and these are best friends in the world.
Speaker 1: And I would just sit there and be like, thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty. I'd just be like laughing. I was like,
Speaker 1: you guys don't even know it. Well, you know it,
Speaker 1: but I have the NHL in the palm of my
Speaker 1: hand four years from now, Like I'm already four years
Speaker 1: from now playing in the NHL. UM. And they were
Speaker 1: just they were teenage kids in school, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, I have to be in school for now
Speaker 1: because this is part of the process. But I'm already
Speaker 1: three or four years from now. So I didn't School
Speaker 1: to me was completely irrelevant dating and like high school
Speaker 1: and those problems and issues and peer pressure was all
Speaker 1: irrelevant for me because I was just I was lasered
Speaker 1: on making the NHL. So I wouldn't say my my
Speaker 1: like my high school years were normal at all. But
Speaker 1: how would you describe yourself and focus just like focus.
Speaker 1: And what was the other one? You said, irrelevant school.
Speaker 1: It was just the first one, he said. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just I wanted to matter. I wanted to Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. I wanted to be somewhere. I
Speaker 1: knew where I was going, and I wanted to be there.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's multiple years in high school and each
Speaker 1: one was you know, different. It's totally totally and it
Speaker 1: sleeps and bounds. I mean, those years are so uh,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're big years of your life, you know.
Speaker 1: Um see that's where I disagree, like those years were
Speaker 1: nothing for me. Well, thirteen to seventeen is a giant
Speaker 1: change in my opinion. I mean when I was thirteen,
Speaker 1: it went from like you know, went from like g
Speaker 1: I Joe to you know, medical school. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to medical school to me, I'll probably
Speaker 1: end up medical school. You know. I was really religious,
Speaker 1: and I thought, I want to make the Blind Sea
Speaker 1: like Jesus did. I'm going to be an ophomologist, and
Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. I've already played mu Zick,
Speaker 1: but I thought it would be a selfish lifestyle. I
Speaker 1: went to a concert, and I was like, no, this
Speaker 1: is good. This heals people, this helps people. I decided
Speaker 1: to play music. I was fifteen when that happened. That's
Speaker 1: so cool. Weird, right, it's silly, but it's so cool
Speaker 1: if you got into music because it heals people and
Speaker 1: helps people. I already played music, but I didn't think
Speaker 1: that's a career it would be the right thing to
Speaker 1: do because I felt like it was such a personal
Speaker 1: thing to me and it seemed selfish. It's weird, right,
Speaker 1: So so then but I thought, well, this would be selfish.
Speaker 1: But then when I saw a contract I saw believe
Speaker 1: jel play, I went wow. I looked at the people
Speaker 1: around me. I thought, wow, this is this is medicine.
Speaker 1: Music is medicine. This this is not selfish. I should
Speaker 1: do this, you know. But that really can really change
Speaker 1: my focus from it being this this hobby, this uh
Speaker 1: you know, something I did just for me too. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is this is something I should do because because
Speaker 1: it only not only makes me happy, but it'll it'll
Speaker 1: it'll be good for people to other people too. Um
Speaker 1: So then, um so for me, those years were very
Speaker 1: big because those are the years that changed me, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I literally remember having a meeting as a
Speaker 1: kid as uh, probably a fourteen, fourteen year old with principle,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh and I remember I said the principle.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I'm wasting my time here in high school.
Speaker 1: I need to pursue medicine. This is this is the
Speaker 1: time in my life where I need to be focused.
Speaker 1: I need moving ahead. Why am I reading Shakespeare? I
Speaker 1: don't want to read Shakespeare. Ironically, I've become what a writer.
Speaker 1: I've become a songwriter. Right, So, so I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I thought I knew, but I didn't. You know, the
Speaker 1: big life moment hadn't happened for me yet to truly
Speaker 1: find my direction. And um, amazingly, just having that opportunity
Speaker 1: allowed me to really choose my direction. And then and
Speaker 1: then from that point on, you know, everything changed. Academics
Speaker 1: became less important. You know. I still did well in school,
Speaker 1: but by the time I got accepted the college, you know,
Speaker 1: I changed completely. Once that happened, I was like, forget.
Speaker 1: I started wearing pajamas to school, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: bringing a pillow, putting down on the desk when the
Speaker 1: teacher started talking, going to sleep, laying on the table
Speaker 1: in the back. You know, it became different leaving school
Speaker 1: early because it was done for me. I had my direction,
Speaker 1: I want to play music, and it was somewhere else.
Speaker 1: It was. It was exactly the same way you talk
Speaker 1: about hockey. The second you made that full decision that
Speaker 1: you really knew what it was you were chasing. Everything
Speaker 1: else was just kind of in the way. You know,
Speaker 1: they were like they were just just That's why I
Speaker 1: said high school, you were just slapping out of your way,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There were it was a
Speaker 1: slalomn course and you were just slapping down the you
Speaker 1: know those those polls you know, Um, it was the
Speaker 1: exact same for me, and um that happened younger for me.
Speaker 1: But then my grade twelve of my last year in school,
Speaker 1: second half of the of the semester, second semester, like
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school hardly at all. All. I
Speaker 1: had like a hundred and thirty absences, Like I just
Speaker 1: my teachers would be like, I'd be like, why am
Speaker 1: I coming to school. I'm not going to school next year.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make pro hockey totally. Why do I
Speaker 1: need to be in this math? You want me to
Speaker 1: share another odd thing piece of information. Apparently I had
Speaker 1: set the school record from tardiness. I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: I think you've definitely set the I heart I heard
Speaker 1: podcast record for tardiness as well. But you made it
Speaker 1: here today, and whenever you show up, you do show up,
Speaker 1: Buddy said, So, okay, we're gonna get it. We'renna take
Speaker 1: a break. We're getting into more questions. Get to know Gavin,
Speaker 1: get to know Brooks. Coming back after this. Okay, we
Speaker 1: are back from break and we have producer Tory ready
Speaker 1: to ask us some fun questions. We're gonna have some
Speaker 1: fun questions and see if we can find a way
Speaker 1: to add some value here. Are you ready? By the way,
Speaker 1: let's just preface Yeah, let's just preface this. Gavin and
Speaker 1: I have no idea what kind of questions are coming
Speaker 1: our way. She's got some cards. What do you have
Speaker 1: their tea? Can you set this up for us? I
Speaker 1: have some table topics and they're just like little cocktail.
Speaker 1: You know, this would actually be great for like a
Speaker 1: first take and to know someone. Um, I think they're
Speaker 1: just called table topics. Aren't they order them a speak?
Speaker 1: It's a little speed date right here. Okay, where would
Speaker 1: you wake up tomorrow? If you could choose? Where would
Speaker 1: I wake up tomorrow? If I could choose Rome, I'd
Speaker 1: wake up in Rome. I've never been to Room of One.
Speaker 1: I watched Gladiator again the other day in the Colosseum.
Speaker 1: Has always been calling me. Um. I would wake up
Speaker 1: in Rome tomorrow. Ah, somewhere in Hawaii probably? Why is nice?
Speaker 1: Which last trips? Why? It was pretty amazing? Which island
Speaker 1: did you go to? Um Onto? The Big Island? Is
Speaker 1: that the one I went to? I think so? I
Speaker 1: have some friends were all the were most of the
Speaker 1: volcanic activity. I went on this unbelievable trick through a
Speaker 1: collapsed volcano. Oh, it's crazy. Uh. And then um let
Speaker 1: me drove to thegether side of the island, more local,
Speaker 1: and uh, that was just it was just awesome, man,
Speaker 1: Just the views and and sort of like the terrain
Speaker 1: was so extreme from one side of the island to
Speaker 1: the other. It was like you were traveling through time
Speaker 1: because you'd see all that, just the volcanic activity, and
Speaker 1: then the results of volcanic activity, and then sort of
Speaker 1: as the progression of growth as the island got healthier
Speaker 1: and healthier, it's just it's a superredible island. Crazy crazy,
Speaker 1: that's ride. Wake up tomorrow, t what's the next? If
Speaker 1: you could be any age again for one week, what
Speaker 1: age would you be. Oh, that's a great question. If
Speaker 1: you could be any age again for one week, what
Speaker 1: age would you be? Man, Damn, I would go back
Speaker 1: to Like, I'd go back to like maybe like twenty one,
Speaker 1: because I feel like I missed out. Look looking back
Speaker 1: at it now, I was so like wired into becoming
Speaker 1: a hockey player that I missed out on. Like I
Speaker 1: never went to college, so I never had college years. Um,
Speaker 1: even through high school. High school basically didn't exist to
Speaker 1: me because I was just training and wanted to get
Speaker 1: out of there to go play hockey. So I never
Speaker 1: had like those social experiences of that most youth would enjoy.
Speaker 1: So I would go back. I'd be twenty one years old. Um,
Speaker 1: that would And I'd spend a week at the age
Speaker 1: of twenty one, maybe in college or something universe, just
Speaker 1: to understand what it's like. I like that. I like
Speaker 1: twenty one. That was a good time. Um, this is
Speaker 1: a couple of you kind of like exactly like a
Speaker 1: year ago. I'm just wondering like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I really want to go back to a time I
Speaker 1: really like where I'm at. I almost would rather change
Speaker 1: the technology back to what it was when I was
Speaker 1: twenty one. We're like, not everybody was running around taking
Speaker 1: pictures everyone all the damn time, and videoing everything it
Speaker 1: did and recording everything you said. I'd like to bring
Speaker 1: back the that technology to right now and see, like
Speaker 1: just kind of have people interact in a way that
Speaker 1: they didn't feel like it was being documented. Okay, wow,
Speaker 1: profound buddy. I like it though, It's just where I'm at. Okay, Tori,
Speaker 1: I do. Would you rather have more energy or more time?
Speaker 1: Let me think of this for a second. Would you
Speaker 1: rather have more energy or more time? I have a
Speaker 1: ton of energy a time. What I'm working on in
Speaker 1: my life right now is creating more time. I feel
Speaker 1: like I fill time with stuff to do, and I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: is this what I want to do or do? I
Speaker 1: just want to have fun in my life, and so
Speaker 1: for me, one of the things I'm working on in
Speaker 1: is making sure I have space and time in my
Speaker 1: life to do things that just make me happy, not
Speaker 1: things I think I'm supposed to do or what I
Speaker 1: should create or what I should do for a paycheck, Like,
Speaker 1: I just want to do things that make me happy
Speaker 1: at that moment, not putting like say I wanted to
Speaker 1: fly to Hawaii today, Like why not go? Let's go,
Speaker 1: Let's go to Hawaii today, you know, instead of putting
Speaker 1: that off. Oh that's something I would like to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds fun. So I would say time energy, I
Speaker 1: got an abundance of I'm trying to create more time.
Speaker 1: I'm down with that. I'm I'm with you completely actually
Speaker 1: on that old thing what he said, Yeah, time for sure.
Speaker 1: Where do you guys feel like you have wasted? Like
Speaker 1: where do you feel like you waste the majority of
Speaker 1: your time that you want to cut back on? My
Speaker 1: mine is like entrepreneurial activities, things that like coming out
Speaker 1: of hockey. Right, So, as an athlete come out of hockey,
Speaker 1: you stop playing, you stop getting paid. So you know
Speaker 1: you're making millions of dollars a year, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now you you don't have a paycheck coming in. So
Speaker 1: there's also a purpose. So like, Okay, I want to
Speaker 1: do something that serves and impacts people and inspires people,
Speaker 1: and so what does that look like um, and then
Speaker 1: I just started doing some things like I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I should create something. I want to create a business.
Speaker 1: I want to read some business books. I want to
Speaker 1: like explore the business mind in a way with time
Speaker 1: and resources that I couldn't when I was playing, Like
Speaker 1: as as a having the time that I have now
Speaker 1: has allowed me to explore other curiosities in my life
Speaker 1: that I could never do what I was playing. And
Speaker 1: so I think I went overboard on that and created
Speaker 1: businesses and stuff that all of a sudden required my
Speaker 1: time And I'm like, for what, Like why am I
Speaker 1: doing that? So it's entrepreneurial stuff that I want to
Speaker 1: sort of back off on. And when I do something
Speaker 1: like when I come to this podcast to do this podcast,
Speaker 1: I want it to be for the right reasons, because
Speaker 1: I choose to be here, not I think I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be here if talent and money were no factors.
Speaker 1: What jobs would you have or what to have? What
Speaker 1: a great question, man? What jobs would I have? You
Speaker 1: know what? Well? I mean I could I could do
Speaker 1: this right now like I would. I would love to
Speaker 1: be able to sing like I I admire this man
Speaker 1: right here because like when you performed at the like
Speaker 1: when you performed at the podcast Awards, Like, I admire
Speaker 1: that so much of being able to go up and
Speaker 1: entertain people. And you're entertaining people, Yeah, but to sing,
Speaker 1: like I just I love music so much. I have
Speaker 1: music on at all times of the day. I am
Speaker 1: listening to music. I find myself. I learned so much
Speaker 1: about myself. I feel comforted in music, Like lyrics are
Speaker 1: powerful to me, and like I could just but I
Speaker 1: could go sing. I could go to like an open
Speaker 1: mic night and just get booed right off the stage.
Speaker 1: I play a little rock band. I sing in some
Speaker 1: rock band over there. I love that. I just have
Speaker 1: such an admiration for singing. Yeah, admire your talent. But um,
Speaker 1: and I love what you do man, and I love
Speaker 1: I love what you chose as a career. Um. Personally,
Speaker 1: I think you know, I've always fantasized since I was
Speaker 1: a little kid. I always wanted to be g I Joe.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say specials, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to do. So um. You know,
Speaker 1: of course we all have different desires growing up and
Speaker 1: things like that, but that was always like fantasy land
Speaker 1: for me. You know, UM. But then I remember told
Speaker 1: my dad one day, I was like, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I'm gon joining the military, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: go kick ass and this and that. And he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me tell you what your military crew would be like, Gavin,
Speaker 1: what I mean, I would like to see you in
Speaker 1: the military. We didn't even know you're gonna be here
Speaker 1: for He was like, he was like, you end up
Speaker 1: getting into order from some officer that you knew you
Speaker 1: were smarter than, and you let him know you were
Speaker 1: smarter than he was, and that would be the end
Speaker 1: of your military career. So so anyway, so that would
Speaker 1: be like, that would be what I would want to do.
Speaker 1: But I still in my mind, I still fantasize about
Speaker 1: UM being involved in in that element of the world,
Speaker 1: in that element of mission of you know, getting involved
Speaker 1: with I remember years ago there was a charity that
Speaker 1: that was, you know, focused on on freeing the child
Speaker 1: soldiers and things like that in Africa, and UM there's
Speaker 1: a lot of that type of stuff that goes on
Speaker 1: around around the world, you know, where people get abducted
Speaker 1: or they're taken from their families and they're sort of enlisted,
Speaker 1: uh into militias or they're they're taking advantage of I still, personally,
Speaker 1: I still feel that's something that's doable, even even at
Speaker 1: this age of getting involved in things like that. But
Speaker 1: but in my mind, I still want to be door kicker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I still want to show
Speaker 1: up at those places and I still want to be
Speaker 1: involved physically physically in that world, you know what I mean? Um,
Speaker 1: And maybe that's how you satisfy that g I Joe Leman,
Speaker 1: or your of your psyche that hasn't been satisfied yet.
Speaker 1: I have another one too. I love that I aligned
Speaker 1: with that completely, and I have another one. I'd love
Speaker 1: to work at NASA. Just the concept when I think
Speaker 1: about this, if you think about space, that space extends
Speaker 1: for infinity as far as we know that there's no
Speaker 1: cap on space. That just blows my mind. How can
Speaker 1: you keep going forever and never hit a wall? Like
Speaker 1: where does space go? And like to work in that
Speaker 1: environment in NASA Exploring that concept of like that space
Speaker 1: is never ending just fascinates me. So I'd like I'd
Speaker 1: like to go work at NASA. To some NASA engineers
Speaker 1: do that at all? That would feel so I feel
Speaker 1: like I wasn't washing my hands enough clinical So you know,
Speaker 1: just like I can imagine being in sort of that
Speaker 1: philosophical environment, but but physical environment of of being in
Speaker 1: that that that that world that more, it would just
Speaker 1: almost be a little too clean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Moving on can figure that out. Yeah, that's why I said,
Speaker 1: moving on. Oh, you know, everybody's like walking around and
Speaker 1: rubber gloves, and that's what you saw in the movie.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm seeing, you know what I mean in
Speaker 1: my mind, you know, to clean. I'm too rugged and
Speaker 1: mountain too rugged to be at NASA. No, it's just
Speaker 1: just not I don't know, it just sounds a little
Speaker 1: I could imagine the concept of the of sitting around
Speaker 1: and you know, thinking about the grand the grandeur of
Speaker 1: it and the grandeur of the mission, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's fascinating to me. The environment of being there.
Speaker 1: It's probably such a slow moving train. I'd be like man,
Speaker 1: sleepy time. Okay, who takes care of you the best?
Speaker 1: Who takes care of me the best? Good question? It
Speaker 1: has to be me. Yeah, you take care of You're
Speaker 1: in charge of your own life. I mean that's a
Speaker 1: very simple also. M Yeah, it's just me. Um. I
Speaker 1: think that there's certainly a good element of that. I
Speaker 1: rely on a lot of people though for I rely
Speaker 1: on I don't know if a lot of people, but
Speaker 1: some people for sure, for that kind of emotional boost
Speaker 1: when you need that emotional boost, you know, close friends
Speaker 1: and things like that. And uh, like, there's a buddy
Speaker 1: of mine I'm so aligned with. He's one of my
Speaker 1: one of my dearest friends. And we don't talk every day.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll talk sometimes we won't go from we
Speaker 1: won't talk for a few months, but he'll reach out
Speaker 1: whenever I'm feeling whatever reason. He just knows. He just
Speaker 1: knows energetically, I believe it. That's a really weird man.
Speaker 1: And he he and me are like really connected on
Speaker 1: that level, and it's really weird. And I said, he'll say, hey,
Speaker 1: how such a section? How did you? How did you
Speaker 1: even know that? That's bugging me right now? You know,
Speaker 1: He just like, I don't know, dude, you mean you man,
Speaker 1: were just connected. Man, So I just thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna call you and and see see what's going on
Speaker 1: with that man. That's so agreeably strange. It's a great
Speaker 1: friend to have. Many unbelievable really unbelievable. So so my
Speaker 1: day to day obviously, you know, I take care of me,
Speaker 1: but but I have a network of people who who
Speaker 1: I'm aligned with in different capacities and I and I
Speaker 1: need every one of them, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: say one not other thing too, because this is my
Speaker 1: first time, like having a big dog, like having dogs too.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they take so much I never noticed before,
Speaker 1: Like they take so much care of you in ways
Speaker 1: that you aren't even aware of, and how much support
Speaker 1: they give and love they give, and just like that
Speaker 1: is such a unique partnership and that bond between you know,
Speaker 1: my dog and no dubt a bad ads man's best
Speaker 1: friend for real, it's just you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to acknowledge that kinship. They're totally agree. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a special thing. It's a special thing. Every time
Speaker 1: you show up at the house, it's like, wow, where
Speaker 1: have you been missed? You so much? So great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah totally. And you're like just check your mail outside,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like you, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's you are so great, but it is and like
Speaker 1: that tail is just wagon and like they're stomping their
Speaker 1: feet and like that energy is just isn't that the best?
Speaker 1: It's so it's so precious, like it's it's so precious. Okay,
Speaker 1: ready for next question. Master, good to see you. Oh
Speaker 1: my masters, Yeah, girlfriends, cabin's past. He's like, you don't
Speaker 1: speak to me like buddy? Yeah the best? Master. Okay,
Speaker 1: have you ever had you be more like buddy when
Speaker 1: you talked to me? Have you have you ever had
Speaker 1: an experience that led you to believe in angels or ghosts? Yeah?
Speaker 1: M I love this question. I'm trying to think. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was angels or ghosts. I've experienced
Speaker 1: miracles before. Can we here at least one? It's a
Speaker 1: little weird, that's okay if you're willing to cell please sure.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I got I got surrounded once in a
Speaker 1: bathroom and uh wait, where were you? What bathroom? A teenager?
Speaker 1: And uh, there are no windows in this bathroom, only
Speaker 1: all official light. And I went in, uh to hit
Speaker 1: the head, you know. And I walked in and there
Speaker 1: was a group of people in there, and uh, they
Speaker 1: said it was jump time, you know. So I was
Speaker 1: about to jump and the lights went out, so it's
Speaker 1: pitch black, and I was like all right, well, I
Speaker 1: guess I have to fight a group of people. And
Speaker 1: they were actually like reality and reality really yeah, oh
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And so I grew up in a prison town,
Speaker 1: you know. So I was like, all right, I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, well, I mean, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: bad minute, you know what I mean. Anyway, Um, so,
Speaker 1: as I was waiting for the attack, uh, I was
Speaker 1: waiting for the attack, I heard like this little this,
Speaker 1: and that sound was the sound of a lighter, right yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then so then I saw the people
Speaker 1: around me, right the group, and then I thought, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I obviously have to hit the guy with the lighter,
Speaker 1: because that way they have no one awoke with they're hitting,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So so anyway, but even
Speaker 1: before that happened, the lighter bled all over him and
Speaker 1: lit him on fire, lit his hand on fire, and
Speaker 1: it was and that was and that essentially was that
Speaker 1: he started screaming and flailing and they're freaking out, and
Speaker 1: they put the light on and I pushed through the
Speaker 1: group and I walked out. I've gone out of the room.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of that of a lighter leaking on you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so you felt that was some sort of divine intervention.
Speaker 1: I experienced a miracle and uh, and I remember I
Speaker 1: had heard I don't know if it was like if
Speaker 1: it was real or not the story, but that that
Speaker 1: year there were recalls or something on Dick Lighter's for
Speaker 1: having some kind of weird problem. Um, but this is,
Speaker 1: you know, twentysome years ago. Yeah, so that was like
Speaker 1: I would call that a miracle just because you know,
Speaker 1: that was just you know, sometimes it's just too many.
Speaker 1: That was too many, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it's wild. Yeah. So when you
Speaker 1: see a man's hand light on fire in that one
Speaker 1: moment we were I was like, I walked out. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, cool, thanks God. He's looking at me
Speaker 1: like when I have a story that it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean I'm trying to think I
Speaker 1: don't have anything right now honestly that I can because
Speaker 1: because the question was angels or ghosts, Yeah, angels or ghosts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a ghost one. Um,
Speaker 1: have you ever had a feeling where you felt somebody
Speaker 1: was like next to you or have you ever do
Speaker 1: you believe in people who can call into their side
Speaker 1: do you believe in spirituality? Yeah, I believe in all
Speaker 1: of that. I believe your spirits can exist around us. Um.
Speaker 1: I believe you can tap into different spirits, or you
Speaker 1: can transcend time a little bit and go into different
Speaker 1: like I believe that. I'm I've been doing a lot
Speaker 1: of energy work and stuff like that and starting to
Speaker 1: learn about that kind of thing. I fully believe it. Um.
Speaker 1: I believe in in out of body experiences. Um. But
Speaker 1: do I have a specific story or anything like that
Speaker 1: that would I would really love to share that I could.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm blanking right now. Yeah, but I do
Speaker 1: believe in all of it. I believe in angels undoubtedly.
Speaker 1: I also believe in ghosts. If you knew you wouldn't
Speaker 1: get hurt. Would you rather skydive or view sharks from
Speaker 1: an underwater cage? I did an underwater I did the
Speaker 1: underwater cage with sharks. I'm actually thinking about doing free
Speaker 1: diving with great whites where you don't have a cage.
Speaker 1: Would you do that with ham uh sorts? I don't
Speaker 1: think I would do it with the play to ham
Speaker 1: on men. Well apparently though with you? Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: way into it. I want to get in there. Just
Speaker 1: I've never went with a giant predator. I never, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but here, who's the predator? Gave like, are we the predator?
Speaker 1: If you actually look at that relationship, who's the predator? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, asked and asked the asked the sailors
Speaker 1: who get eaten by sharks when they're when they're when
Speaker 1: they're floating on a raft for for two weeks, and
Speaker 1: each year there are a hundred million sharks killed in
Speaker 1: the world. Did you know that for shark fin soup?
Speaker 1: Then that sounds Listen, so I hear you and that
Speaker 1: your story is touching. But the fact is, which one
Speaker 1: should you fear when you hop in the ocean? I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hop in their world and try
Speaker 1: to make a buddy out of out of something whose
Speaker 1: teeth grow back within the day. I know. But there
Speaker 1: are people that I am serious than. So I've done
Speaker 1: this great white sharks. I did it in Guadalupe Island.
Speaker 1: I am seriously considering going to do a free dive
Speaker 1: with great white sharks. I think it's okay. I think
Speaker 1: when you die, can I have your stuff? Yeah? You
Speaker 1: can have my percentage of if I die. That means
Speaker 1: you're in charge of this podcast. But no swimming. It
Speaker 1: would be could you imagine to magic man? Can you
Speaker 1: imagine if that was your go to right there? If ga,
Speaker 1: hey man, let's do that. We just want to check
Speaker 1: in and see where you are. He can we do
Speaker 1: just trying to figure out where you are? Could you
Speaker 1: just you're alive with buddy? Have you ever been skydiving?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been skydiving? No? Yeah, I haven't either,
Speaker 1: but I want to go. No, I would do both.
Speaker 1: Which one would you do? Much more likely to skydive? Okay, certainly,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's more that's more up to me.
Speaker 1: I feel like the hopping in the water, um, and
Speaker 1: I'm pretty handy in the water. I feel pretty pretty
Speaker 1: confident in water. I'd say if I had to fight
Speaker 1: the terrifying human being, I'd say, well, let's get in
Speaker 1: the water. That's more like a comfortable place for me
Speaker 1: to be. Ice to swim a bit now with lifeguard
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And but I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in there with sharks, no thank you, not not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. A predator, no thank you. But that's just
Speaker 1: because you look at them like that that's because it's
Speaker 1: what they are. So were you No, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: look how I treat this animal? Yeah, that's that's him
Speaker 1: swimming around. Him swimming around on the surface would be
Speaker 1: treated differently by a shark than than him walking up
Speaker 1: to me on my yard. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: that that you know this is my yard out here,
Speaker 1: that the ocean is the shark's yard. And I can't
Speaker 1: see saying go ahead, buddy, why don't you go swim
Speaker 1: out there and you try to, you know, tap into
Speaker 1: the psyche of millions of years of predatory evolution. Next one,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Which which of your personality traits would you
Speaker 1: like to change my feelings towards great white sharks? I'll
Speaker 1: pick one for you being one time you're what's unpunctual?
Speaker 1: Is it? What's your unpunctuality? Was that today you weren't?
Speaker 1: You were actually right on that You're actually right on
Speaker 1: the nose. It's just we didn't know at all. There
Speaker 1: was no communicado if you were even coming. But you
Speaker 1: made it okay. But real talk, predictability is how you win.
Speaker 1: This isn't the art of war. What personality would you
Speaker 1: want to change? Um? I'm merely thinking. Here. One thing
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is I had a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: Steve Weatherford, super Bowl winning kicker played for the Giants,
Speaker 1: gave me great advice that I still take with me.
Speaker 1: Is two years ago and gave me great advice, and
Speaker 1: he said, Brooks, I'm gonna pray for you, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pray that you give up control that your boat
Speaker 1: is in a river. Think of like you have. You're
Speaker 1: a boat in a river, but your anchor down in
Speaker 1: the river and the current is just running by you.
Speaker 1: And I pray that you'll lift your anchor and just
Speaker 1: let your boat go with the current. And it's just
Speaker 1: still stuck with me. Two years later, it's still stuck
Speaker 1: with me. And releasing releasing like certainty, releasing the need
Speaker 1: to control circumstance advirus, that's why you want to get
Speaker 1: in the water with the shark, because you're trying to
Speaker 1: get over that. Maybe maybe it's yeah, just like um,
Speaker 1: it's it's something I'm really trying to work on, and
Speaker 1: I've made a immense strides in it, but still it's
Speaker 1: something that quote just resonated so truly. I think what
Speaker 1: it is is leaving space in my life for like
Speaker 1: the unknown to come in and come through me, versus
Speaker 1: me having to create things all the time. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that I would actually change would be finding
Speaker 1: that line between figuring out my happiness level with things,
Speaker 1: not my happiness emotionally, but like where I'm at as
Speaker 1: far as like feeling good about where I am career wise,
Speaker 1: work wise, life wise, but also creating a sense of urgency.
Speaker 1: I lack urgency because to me life is good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so finding that line between getting the mission accomplished, um,
Speaker 1: still being happy and feeling like I can do things
Speaker 1: at my own at my own rate, at my own pace,
Speaker 1: but at the same time having enough urgency I need
Speaker 1: to tap into moving towards yes, just because I almost
Speaker 1: never feel like, oh, I have to get this done,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just because I feel good
Speaker 1: about things like I feel like, well, why do I
Speaker 1: have to get it done right now? What? What for?
Speaker 1: You know? Um? Am I happy right now? Yeah? I'm
Speaker 1: happy right now? But how do you mix that with
Speaker 1: also getting things done when you when you should be
Speaker 1: getting them done? Know, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: here's something because I don't like to I don't like
Speaker 1: to have I don't like to stress out. I fundamentally
Speaker 1: pretty much never stress out. You understand what people freak out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, relax, it's good, it is okay, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. This is fine. It's a bump in
Speaker 1: the road. But that's but that interferes with having a
Speaker 1: sense of urgency to you know what I mean, everybody's
Speaker 1: bugging out of like, relax, We're cool. We're a hundred
Speaker 1: miles from nowhere, but we know at least it's a
Speaker 1: hundred miles and we know it's nowhere. We know something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm always trying to be like,
Speaker 1: just calm down, you know, I get it. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I also think there's a give and take with that.
Speaker 1: Obviously there's negatives to that too. Clearly the final question, Yes,
Speaker 1: you're trying to get to that next question, right, He
Speaker 1: was about to say something right, meaningful. I was gonna
Speaker 1: let it go. He kept giving me the nod to
Speaker 1: go to the next No, do you want to know
Speaker 1: what I say? You want to sometimes so you need
Speaker 1: to say something. Here's here's something that I think about
Speaker 1: sometimes too. If I don't follow through on something, who
Speaker 1: suffers if I don't follow through on something, who am
Speaker 1: I affecting negatively? Who is not benefiting? Who? Is it
Speaker 1: just me? Though? What if it's just you and you're
Speaker 1: like I could live with that, Yeah, that's fine then.
Speaker 1: But sometimes when it's like a project or a thing
Speaker 1: or something, I'm like, oh, I know that, I know
Speaker 1: that people could use that and it could help people.
Speaker 1: And if I just don't feel like doing I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: that I'm actually gonna cost a lot of people suffering
Speaker 1: if I don't do this for them, right, So anyway
Speaker 1: something to think about maybe to help that urgency because
Speaker 1: I feel the same sometimes. Yeah. T final question, would
Speaker 1: you prefer money for a housekeeper, a cook, a gardener
Speaker 1: or a personal assistant? Oh? What a question? Personal assistant? No? Why?
Speaker 1: Because then you can be like, hey do all those things.
Speaker 1: That's a great that's that's actually where's hr or there's
Speaker 1: actually that's how that's how top CEOs make make decisions.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a decision making process that if you
Speaker 1: have four problems, you select the one problem to fix
Speaker 1: that's going to fix the other three problems. So if
Speaker 1: you've got a personal assistant, I guess the question is
Speaker 1: the money though, you know, if you could only afford one, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can only have one. I think they call it
Speaker 1: an intern. Is that just you can get them credits
Speaker 1: so they can work for free? That's what it is.
Speaker 1: Damn the intern A little slippery right. A housekeeper, a chef,
Speaker 1: and a personal assistant and a personal housekeeper, a chef,
Speaker 1: a guard again to take personal assistant off there because
Speaker 1: you can actually be like, can you cook and then
Speaker 1: go trim the edges? Is not going from the office
Speaker 1: to your household to cook you at dinner. It depends
Speaker 1: what that personal assists for. I would say, I would
Speaker 1: say housekeeper. Okay, yeah, what's the main reason for that's
Speaker 1: the one thing you hate to do most childskeeping lines? Well,
Speaker 1: just just because then I can I can have that
Speaker 1: time I like. I like a clean home environment. I
Speaker 1: just really do. I like a serenity at home, and
Speaker 1: then if that's in place, I can take my time
Speaker 1: and focus it on things that I need to do elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I like to make a bean bag out of a
Speaker 1: laundry pile. Okay, that's your that's your Yeah, what's the
Speaker 1: one you would want? Mm hmm. A gardener, housekeeper, chef,
Speaker 1: hard one. This is a hard one. I would say
Speaker 1: maybe it is a eight question. Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Probably a housekeeper. I hate making the bid, something about
Speaker 1: making the bed and just doing your laundry and like
Speaker 1: cleaning floors or like all all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: like you want to have a nice home, to a
Speaker 1: nice home. A nice home creates order in your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's a foundation. I think it's inn I
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think I think it really is.
Speaker 1: So housekeeper. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's it. That's it for
Speaker 1: these questions. I like this game. This is a good game.
Speaker 1: And t I appreciate you, Tory, our producer Tori here
Speaker 1: to help you were okay, I guess Tori, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I'm not a person. Oh my god, could you
Speaker 1: imagine myself? Do you imagine if you were Gavin's personal assistant,
Speaker 1: just the time that we spend together at the at
Speaker 1: the podcast, I feel like you have to go meditate
Speaker 1: after I'm meditating right now. That's what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: love this. I love this contrast right here. That's it
Speaker 1: for those questions. So I I appreciate that Tory gave.
Speaker 1: I always appreciate you. Man. I always appreciate your insc.
Speaker 1: Every time we talk, I learned something more about you
Speaker 1: and learned like your journey and you're like I learned
Speaker 1: more about you. And perhaps there's not enough room between
Speaker 1: our homes. Hey, how many times have I tried to
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Speaker 1: play date with the dogs, bro. We need to have
Speaker 1: played what I mean, And that's why I bring Buddy
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Speaker 1: and cold A rip around, a couple of two year olds,
Speaker 1: just tearing up his life. I love it. That's it
Speaker 1: for this episode, how Man, Thank you guys. Always appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys listening. I don't know if we say it enough,
Speaker 1: but I always appreciate you guys listening. Yeah, I thought,
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