1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is how Men Thing with brooks Like and Gavin 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Gros and I heard radio podcast. Welcome to another episode 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like and 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: I got my dude, Mr Gavin de Gros. Yeah you too, buddy, 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: could be back. I've been getting to see you a 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: lot lately, too much, right, No, never tired of this guy. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: By the way, I like your sweater today. I know 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about fashion before. Yeah, don't know what that is. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Looks simple, looks like a good take on simple. How 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: they recommend this brand. It's called Brooks Brand sweaters coming out. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Maybe that's my new player. I got a new thing 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: called Brooks Brand sweaters. It's actually a Noble sweater. Noble 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: noble and O b U l L. And everyone comments 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: on this sweater. Tory commentsed on this sweater before. It's 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: very nice, asked and everything. Yeah, this is a difference. Um, 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep the large okay, just trying 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: to keep up with you. Man. You got voted as 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: you can Tasia Adams voted you recently as like more 19 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: fashionable than No. No. I got dissed and yelled dissed me, 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: and it was like I don't like scarves. I think 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: it's called out that scarf was dope, thank you very much. 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: It was Danielle Is coming to send us the straight um. 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: That scarf was just not making any warm. So it 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: was the point of it. It was making me warm. 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: It was an accessory piece of it. That's pretty much 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: like he was. He was accessorized. What if I had 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: to drive my hands in the bathroom and I don't 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: want to get stuff into bathroom? Very practical, that's right 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: where that scar travel with hand towels. That's what I say. 30 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: You know what we're gonna do today, buddy, I guess 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: the answer is we're gonna have a way. We're gonna 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: have a fireside chat today. That's a good ideas fireside 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: And what's going to happen is Tory has a bunch 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: of questions and so this is like a get to 35 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: know Gavin, get to know Brooks type day. Can I 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: say something before we continue? It is a podcast. I'm 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: not a gas fireplace fan. Just in general. I like 38 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: the crackle of wood fire. Everybody talking about the environment stuff, 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: I get it, I understand, but if the thing doesn't 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: crackle and move, it's just not really fire. I get you. 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: I agreed. At our lake house, we have multiple fireplaces 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: and we just feed wood into those. Man, those are 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: it just it makes the whole smell. That smell, it 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: is my favorite scent in the world, best best. I 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: love Carstena Jins. So anyway, that being that little tangent 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: being said, we're going to do get to know Gavin today. 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: Our viewers, our listeners. The one way they want to 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: know who Gavin to grow is you know what, I 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: want to know who Gavin grow. We're going to try 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: and figure that out. So can you ever figure that out? 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: I think it ever changes with him. One word you 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: would use to describe Gavin, I would use three shock 53 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: and awe. I was literally just saying this. We're having 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: lunched outs to so I was like, Gavin likes to 55 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: hit people with the old shock and awe because when 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: he saw the people are like look at him for 57 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: a second, and then he like he holds it and 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: then he furthers his thoughts and you can always see 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: like a perplexion on the face of somebody. It's like, huh, 60 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: it's a little shock and awe. So that's how I 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: would I would describe gave thanks, but they're also very 62 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: profound and very deep. How would you just make fun 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: Brooks thoughtful, kind and adventurous? My man appreciate. Yeah, I 64 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: feel like like he gave me a better review. Like 65 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: I feel like my review didn't do him justice. I 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: don't need to be done justice is what is one 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: thing you wish you had that Gavin has? Like? What quality? 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm really no, No, actually it's not. It's 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: not that I can't come up without it. I'm trying 70 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: to think of like something like when you enter a room, 71 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: you meet every single person in that room. Yeah, you 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: always meet every person. You introduce yourself to every single person. 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: You want every single person to feel included, you meet them, 74 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: you all whenever you show up, you always show up 75 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: high energy. I love that you're always and everybody in 76 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: the room could tell you're in the room, and you 77 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: are too. You're an extremely kind and caring person. You 78 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: have a tough outer shell, but I undeniably know it's 79 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: your heart that you're an extremely kind and caring person 80 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: and people matter to you. Um, you love people? Yeah, 81 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: you do. I know you do. I try to see 82 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: the good people, I really do, and I give everybody 83 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt, of the doubt off the bat, 84 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: and I even let them be a dick for the 85 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: first couple of minutes if it need to be, you 86 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean, to get past that first moment, 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And I think it's important 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: to kind of give people that, you know, just a 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: little grace period, a little grace period, because some people 90 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: are just a little bit more awkward than other people 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: at first, and I try to give them a little 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: bit of that leeway, you know, because not everybody is 93 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: warm at first, you know. Um, sometimes I could be 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: like a little bit socially aggressive, like hey, what's up? 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: Are you good to meet you man? Blah blah blah, 96 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: And some people someone would be like like this, what's 97 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: up with Mr Social? You know so? 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It's a fantastic deal, Yavin, What is the 136 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: quality Brooks has that you wish you had? I love 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Brooks is calm mhmm. What do you think that's rooted 138 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: in and for him? I think that Brooks has done 139 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: wild already in other fat sits of his life, and 140 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: that's helped sort of create a relaxed mindset for him 141 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. And why do you think 142 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: you don't have calm? Because I spent a lot of 143 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: my time suppressing my wild Did you say suppressing? Because 144 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: this is the tip of the iceberg, you know, what 145 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: is my behavior what we're seeing? Yeah? Yeah, but really 146 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: you want more? I'm left always being like, what else 147 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: does he have up his sleeve? Yeah? Um, I feel 148 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: like I have a really good grasp on gave. I'm 149 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: very careful about a lot of things because of the 150 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: type of job that I do and things like that. 151 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: I can be careful with my hands, I have to 152 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: be careful with my voice. I have to be careful 153 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: physically about certain things. So I really had babied a 154 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: lot of things that I normally would't have babied if 155 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: this wasn't my career, you know what I mean. Besides 156 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: a family member or a manager, who knows you best, Joey, 157 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: my best buddy Joey, No, my brother, probably the best. 158 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: Besides family or co workers. Who knows you the best, 159 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: probably my buddy Joey or my buddy Fezzy Fez from 160 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: Keith Andrew. I mean, there's a group of guys so 161 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm real tight with Yeah. We call him Fest because 162 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: he looks like Yeah, So everybody started calling Fest. But 163 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: there's a group of guys. They know different versions of me, 164 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and each one of so 165 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of colors, you know what I mean, 166 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: personality wise, And each of my friends fits into a 167 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: different I think each of them brings out different shades 168 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: of those different different colors of me. You don't understand 169 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Here's a question for you. Do you 170 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: feel you'll internally like you cannot decide which of those 171 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: shades you truthfully are and you are hoping to step 172 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: into full time being one of those shades. I'm all 173 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: of them. I mean, I'm somebody who always went from 174 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: table to table growing up, you know what I mean, 175 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: Like at lunch, I'd go to ten tables and sit 176 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: there hungry, friends, very so hungry. No, just because that 177 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: was my personality type, you know what I mean. And 178 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: and I fit in different groups for different reasons, you 179 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 1: know what i mean. So you know, I had friends 180 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: who were the nerdier group, nerdier groups or whatever because 181 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: I got good grades. And then I played sports, so 182 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: my other friends were more of the jocks. And then 183 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: I enjoyed music, and so I had music friends, and 184 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: then the theater and he had theater friends. And then 185 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're like, you know, you understand. So I 186 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: had a lot of different interests and those interests. Um uh, 187 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: I had aptitudes and all of the all of those interests. Fortunately, 188 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: and so you know, I had a very diverse group 189 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: of people who I associated with or got along with, 190 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: and not any of them necessarily got along with each other. 191 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: That makes sense, you know what I mean, Because I 192 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: was just my personality type. You were kind of the 193 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: middleman that brought he just common ground to anyone. But 194 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't really put all those groups together. I couldn't 195 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: put those groups together. You know, they were so separate, 196 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you understand advanced placement group, 197 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: but that you're also you know, you're you're playing street ball, 198 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just a different 199 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was the same for me, like a 200 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: lot of I was. I was part of the athlete group, 201 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: but I also had other groups I didn't. I didn't 202 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and some some like I remember some of the hockey guys, uh, 203 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Like in school when I was in grade ten or 204 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: eleven or two, of the hockey guys only hung with 205 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: the hockey guys like they hung in the click. And 206 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: I was like, like, people are people, you know, like 207 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: that you don't have to be on the hockey team 208 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: for me to be friends with you. And that was 209 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the same way when I played hockey. We still had 210 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: friends in the community that I was playing in that 211 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: weren't hockey players. Um, so I assimilate with that very 212 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: much totally. I just had a conversation about it with 213 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: buddy of mine if I grew up with He was like, yeah, 214 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: I remember me, like you got to be like sixteen fifteen, sixteens, 215 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: Like yeah, we'd call you come play ball, and You're like, no, man, 216 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I gotta work. I'm working on these songs. And I 217 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: kind of felt in love so much the music that 218 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: I yanked myself out of playing ball. And then they'd 219 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: be like, man, we're playing a game. Man, you don't 220 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: want to be out here. It's you know, we're going 221 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: to the next town. We're gonna play those guys and whatever. 222 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, man, I got I got a gig 223 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: in three days. Man, I want to get the songs 224 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: up and ready and so. But it was nice having 225 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: those invites, and you know, I still loved all those guys, 226 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: but my ultimately, my interest in music kind of sucked 227 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: out of a lot of those those those things that 228 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: I enjoyed a lot, you know, that makes sense, you 229 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: need to do. But I still love those guys, and 230 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I still played ball here and there. It just wasn't 231 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: as it wasn't as much. The same thing happened to 232 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: me when I was fifteen. I stopped playing baseball because 233 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: I started playing summer hockey. So they play hockey through 234 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: the fall and winter, and then I play hockey in 235 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: the summer where I used to play baseball too. Yeah, 236 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: you get it. You get pulled, you get pulled away, 237 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: but with interest. But you still have those friends there 238 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: because you They knew you were competitive and you're cool 239 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: on whatever, so they wanted to you know, you understand 240 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, And the true friends, the ones 241 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: that are actually your true friends, actually just support you 242 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: in your mission to know they see what it means 243 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: to you. And the other ones that maybe aren't your friends, 244 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: it's a filter. That sort of separation is a filter, 245 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: and they'll be like, oh, he's too cool, he's doing 246 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: his own thing or whatever. But your true friends yet 247 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: there there for you agreed, How would you guys describe 248 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: your high school self? And maybe like a couple of words. 249 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: This is very easy for me. I was non existent 250 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: high school when I was thirteen. I was already nineteen 251 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: year old playing pro hockey. That is where my mindset was. 252 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: So like, my friends used to try and get me 253 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: go drinking, and you're trying to get me go to parties, 254 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: used try and get me to smoke. Um. And these 255 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: were my grooms and these are best friends in the world. 256 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: And I would just sit there and be like, thirteen, 257 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: fourteen fifty. I'd just be like laughing. I was like, 258 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: you guys don't even know it. Well, you know it, 259 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: but I have the NHL in the palm of my 260 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: hand four years from now, Like I'm already four years 261 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: from now playing in the NHL. UM. And they were 262 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: just they were teenage kids in school, and so I 263 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: was like, I have to be in school for now 264 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: because this is part of the process. But I'm already 265 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: three or four years from now. So I didn't School 266 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: to me was completely irrelevant dating and like high school 267 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: and those problems and issues and peer pressure was all 268 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: irrelevant for me because I was just I was lasered 269 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: on making the NHL. So I wouldn't say my my 270 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: like my high school years were normal at all. But 271 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: how would you describe yourself and focus just like focus. 272 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: And what was the other one? You said, irrelevant school. 273 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: It was just the first one, he said. I don't know. 274 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: It was just I wanted to matter. I wanted to Yeah, 275 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: it just didn't matter. I wanted to be somewhere. I 276 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: knew where I was going, and I wanted to be there. 277 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's multiple years in high school and each 278 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: one was you know, different. It's totally totally and it 279 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: sleeps and bounds. I mean, those years are so uh, 280 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: they're they're they're big years of your life, you know. 281 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Um see that's where I disagree, like those years were 282 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: nothing for me. Well, thirteen to seventeen is a giant 283 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: change in my opinion. I mean when I was thirteen, 284 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: it went from like you know, went from like g 285 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: I Joe to you know, medical school. And I was like, oh, 286 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to medical school to me, I'll probably 287 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: end up medical school. You know. I was really religious, 288 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: and I thought, I want to make the Blind Sea 289 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: like Jesus did. I'm going to be an ophomologist, and 290 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. I've already played mu Zick, 291 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: but I thought it would be a selfish lifestyle. I 292 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: went to a concert, and I was like, no, this 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: is good. This heals people, this helps people. I decided 294 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: to play music. I was fifteen when that happened. That's 295 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: so cool. Weird, right, it's silly, but it's so cool 296 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: if you got into music because it heals people and 297 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: helps people. I already played music, but I didn't think 298 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: that's a career it would be the right thing to 299 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: do because I felt like it was such a personal 300 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: thing to me and it seemed selfish. It's weird, right, 301 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: So so then but I thought, well, this would be selfish. 302 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: But then when I saw a contract I saw believe 303 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: jel play, I went wow. I looked at the people 304 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: around me. I thought, wow, this is this is medicine. 305 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: Music is medicine. This this is not selfish. I should 306 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: do this, you know. But that really can really change 307 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: my focus from it being this this hobby, this uh 308 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, something I did just for me too. Wow, 309 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: this is this is something I should do because because 310 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: it only not only makes me happy, but it'll it'll 311 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: it'll be good for people to other people too. Um 312 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: So then, um so for me, those years were very 313 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: big because those are the years that changed me, you know. 314 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I literally remember having a meeting as a 315 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: kid as uh, probably a fourteen, fourteen year old with principle, 316 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, and uh and I remember I said the principle. 317 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: I said, listen, I'm wasting my time here in high school. 318 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: I need to pursue medicine. This is this is the 319 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: time in my life where I need to be focused. 320 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I need moving ahead. Why am I reading Shakespeare? I 321 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: don't want to read Shakespeare. Ironically, I've become what a writer. 322 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: I've become a songwriter. Right, So, so I didn't know. 323 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: I thought I knew, but I didn't. You know, the 324 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: big life moment hadn't happened for me yet to truly 325 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: find my direction. And um, amazingly, just having that opportunity 326 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: allowed me to really choose my direction. And then and 327 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: then from that point on, you know, everything changed. Academics 328 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: became less important. You know. I still did well in school, 329 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: but by the time I got accepted the college, you know, 330 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: I changed completely. Once that happened, I was like, forget. 331 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: I started wearing pajamas to school, you know what I mean, 332 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: bringing a pillow, putting down on the desk when the 333 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: teacher started talking, going to sleep, laying on the table 334 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: in the back. You know, it became different leaving school 335 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 1: early because it was done for me. I had my direction, 336 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: I want to play music, and it was somewhere else. 337 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was exactly the same way you talk 338 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: about hockey. The second you made that full decision that 339 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: you really knew what it was you were chasing. Everything 340 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: else was just kind of in the way. You know, 341 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: they were like they were just just That's why I 342 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: said high school, you were just slapping out of your way, 343 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There were it was a 344 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: slalomn course and you were just slapping down the you 345 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: know those those polls you know, Um, it was the 346 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: exact same for me, and um that happened younger for me. 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: But then my grade twelve of my last year in school, 348 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: second half of the of the semester, second semester, like 349 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: I didn't go to school hardly at all. All. I 350 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: had like a hundred and thirty absences, Like I just 351 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: my teachers would be like, I'd be like, why am 352 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: I coming to school. I'm not going to school next year. 353 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make pro hockey totally. Why do I 354 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: need to be in this math? You want me to 355 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: share another odd thing piece of information. Apparently I had 356 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: set the school record from tardiness. I don't believe it. 357 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: I think you've definitely set the I heart I heard 358 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: podcast record for tardiness as well. But you made it 359 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: here today, and whenever you show up, you do show up, 360 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Buddy said, So, okay, we're gonna get it. We'renna take 361 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: a break. We're getting into more questions. Get to know Gavin, 362 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: get to know Brooks. Coming back after this. Okay, we 363 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: are back from break and we have producer Tory ready 364 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: to ask us some fun questions. We're gonna have some 365 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: fun questions and see if we can find a way 366 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: to add some value here. Are you ready? By the way, 367 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: let's just preface Yeah, let's just preface this. Gavin and 368 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: I have no idea what kind of questions are coming 369 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: our way. She's got some cards. What do you have 370 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: their tea? Can you set this up for us? I 371 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: have some table topics and they're just like little cocktail. 372 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, this would actually be great for like a 373 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: first take and to know someone. Um, I think they're 374 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: just called table topics. Aren't they order them a speak? 375 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: It's a little speed date right here. Okay, where would 376 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: you wake up tomorrow? If you could choose? Where would 377 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: I wake up tomorrow? If I could choose Rome, I'd 378 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: wake up in Rome. I've never been to Room of One. 379 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: I watched Gladiator again the other day in the Colosseum. 380 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Has always been calling me. Um. I would wake up 381 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: in Rome tomorrow. Ah, somewhere in Hawaii probably? Why is nice? 382 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: Which last trips? Why? It was pretty amazing? Which island 383 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: did you go to? Um Onto? The Big Island? Is 384 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: that the one I went to? I think so? I 385 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: have some friends were all the were most of the 386 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: volcanic activity. I went on this unbelievable trick through a 387 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: collapsed volcano. Oh, it's crazy. Uh. And then um let 388 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: me drove to thegether side of the island, more local, 389 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: and uh, that was just it was just awesome, man, 390 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Just the views and and sort of like the terrain 391 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: was so extreme from one side of the island to 392 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: the other. It was like you were traveling through time 393 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: because you'd see all that, just the volcanic activity, and 394 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: then the results of volcanic activity, and then sort of 395 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: as the progression of growth as the island got healthier 396 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: and healthier, it's just it's a superredible island. Crazy crazy, 397 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: that's ride. Wake up tomorrow, t what's the next? If 398 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: you could be any age again for one week, what 399 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: age would you be. Oh, that's a great question. If 400 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: you could be any age again for one week, what 401 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: age would you be? Man, Damn, I would go back 402 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: to Like, I'd go back to like maybe like twenty one, 403 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like I missed out. Look looking back 404 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: at it now, I was so like wired into becoming 405 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: a hockey player that I missed out on. Like I 406 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: never went to college, so I never had college years. Um, 407 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: even through high school. High school basically didn't exist to 408 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: me because I was just training and wanted to get 409 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: out of there to go play hockey. So I never 410 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: had like those social experiences of that most youth would enjoy. 411 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: So I would go back. I'd be twenty one years old. Um, 412 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: that would And I'd spend a week at the age 413 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: of twenty one, maybe in college or something universe, just 414 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: to understand what it's like. I like that. I like 415 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: twenty one. That was a good time. Um, this is 416 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: a couple of you kind of like exactly like a 417 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: year ago. I'm just wondering like, I don't know if 418 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: I really want to go back to a time I 419 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: really like where I'm at. I almost would rather change 420 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: the technology back to what it was when I was 421 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: twenty one. We're like, not everybody was running around taking 422 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: pictures everyone all the damn time, and videoing everything it 423 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: did and recording everything you said. I'd like to bring 424 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: back the that technology to right now and see, like 425 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: just kind of have people interact in a way that 426 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: they didn't feel like it was being documented. Okay, wow, 427 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: profound buddy. I like it though, It's just where I'm at. Okay, Tori, 428 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: I do. Would you rather have more energy or more time? 429 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: Let me think of this for a second. Would you 430 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: rather have more energy or more time? I have a 431 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: ton of energy a time. What I'm working on in 432 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: my life right now is creating more time. I feel 433 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: like I fill time with stuff to do, and I'm like, really, 434 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: is this what I want to do or do? I 435 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: just want to have fun in my life, and so 436 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: for me, one of the things I'm working on in 437 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: is making sure I have space and time in my 438 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: life to do things that just make me happy, not 439 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: things I think I'm supposed to do or what I 440 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: should create or what I should do for a paycheck, Like, 441 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: I just want to do things that make me happy 442 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: at that moment, not putting like say I wanted to 443 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: fly to Hawaii today, Like why not go? Let's go, 444 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: Let's go to Hawaii today, you know, instead of putting 445 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: that off. Oh that's something I would like to do. Yeah, 446 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: that sounds fun. So I would say time energy, I 447 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: got an abundance of I'm trying to create more time. 448 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: I'm down with that. I'm I'm with you completely actually 449 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: on that old thing what he said, Yeah, time for sure. 450 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Where do you guys feel like you have wasted? Like 451 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: where do you feel like you waste the majority of 452 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: your time that you want to cut back on? My 453 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: mine is like entrepreneurial activities, things that like coming out 454 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: of hockey. Right, So, as an athlete come out of hockey, 455 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: you stop playing, you stop getting paid. So you know 456 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: you're making millions of dollars a year, all of a sudden, 457 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: now you you don't have a paycheck coming in. So 458 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: there's also a purpose. So like, Okay, I want to 459 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: do something that serves and impacts people and inspires people, 460 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: and so what does that look like um, and then 461 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: I just started doing some things like I'm like, oh, 462 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: I should create something. I want to create a business. 463 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I want to read some business books. I want to 464 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: like explore the business mind in a way with time 465 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: and resources that I couldn't when I was playing, Like 466 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: as as a having the time that I have now 467 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: has allowed me to explore other curiosities in my life 468 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: that I could never do what I was playing. And 469 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: so I think I went overboard on that and created 470 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: businesses and stuff that all of a sudden required my 471 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: time And I'm like, for what, Like why am I 472 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: doing that? So it's entrepreneurial stuff that I want to 473 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 1: sort of back off on. And when I do something 474 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: like when I come to this podcast to do this podcast, 475 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: I want it to be for the right reasons, because 476 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: I choose to be here, not I think I'm supposed 477 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: to be here if talent and money were no factors. 478 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: What jobs would you have or what to have? What 479 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: a great question, man? What jobs would I have? You 480 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: know what? Well? I mean I could I could do 481 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: this right now like I would. I would love to 482 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: be able to sing like I I admire this man 483 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: right here because like when you performed at the like 484 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: when you performed at the podcast Awards, Like, I admire 485 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: that so much of being able to go up and 486 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: entertain people. And you're entertaining people, Yeah, but to sing, 487 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: like I just I love music so much. I have 488 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: music on at all times of the day. I am 489 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: listening to music. I find myself. I learned so much 490 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: about myself. I feel comforted in music, Like lyrics are 491 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: powerful to me, and like I could just but I 492 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: could go sing. I could go to like an open 493 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: mic night and just get booed right off the stage. 494 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: I play a little rock band. I sing in some 495 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: rock band over there. I love that. I just have 496 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: such an admiration for singing. Yeah, admire your talent. But um, 497 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: and I love what you do man, and I love 498 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: I love what you chose as a career. Um. Personally, 499 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: I think you know, I've always fantasized since I was 500 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: a little kid. I always wanted to be g I Joe. 501 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say specials, you know what I mean, 502 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to do. So um. You know, 503 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: of course we all have different desires growing up and 504 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: things like that, but that was always like fantasy land 505 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: for me. You know, UM. But then I remember told 506 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: my dad one day, I was like, yeah, I think 507 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm gon joining the military, you know, I want to 508 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: go kick ass and this and that. And he was like, Okay, 509 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: let me tell you what your military crew would be like, Gavin, 510 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, I would like to see you in 511 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: the military. We didn't even know you're gonna be here 512 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: for He was like, he was like, you end up 513 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: getting into order from some officer that you knew you 514 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: were smarter than, and you let him know you were 515 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: smarter than he was, and that would be the end 516 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: of your military career. So so anyway, so that would 517 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: be like, that would be what I would want to do. 518 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: But I still in my mind, I still fantasize about 519 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: UM being involved in in that element of the world, 520 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: in that element of mission of you know, getting involved 521 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: with I remember years ago there was a charity that 522 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: that was, you know, focused on on freeing the child 523 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: soldiers and things like that in Africa, and UM there's 524 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: a lot of that type of stuff that goes on 525 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: around around the world, you know, where people get abducted 526 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: or they're taken from their families and they're sort of enlisted, 527 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: uh into militias or they're they're taking advantage of I still, personally, 528 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: I still feel that's something that's doable, even even at 529 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: this age of getting involved in things like that. But 530 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: but in my mind, I still want to be door kicker, 531 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I still want to show 532 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: up at those places and I still want to be 533 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: involved physically physically in that world, you know what I mean? Um, 534 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: And maybe that's how you satisfy that g I Joe Leman, 535 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: or your of your psyche that hasn't been satisfied yet. 536 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I have another one too. I love that I aligned 537 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: with that completely, and I have another one. I'd love 538 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: to work at NASA. Just the concept when I think 539 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: about this, if you think about space, that space extends 540 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: for infinity as far as we know that there's no 541 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: cap on space. That just blows my mind. How can 542 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: you keep going forever and never hit a wall? Like 543 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: where does space go? And like to work in that 544 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: environment in NASA Exploring that concept of like that space 545 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: is never ending just fascinates me. So I'd like I'd 546 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: like to go work at NASA. To some NASA engineers 547 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: do that at all? That would feel so I feel 548 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: like I wasn't washing my hands enough clinical So you know, 549 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 1: just like I can imagine being in sort of that 550 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: philosophical environment, but but physical environment of of being in 551 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: that that that that world that more, it would just 552 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: almost be a little too clean, you know what I mean. 553 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: Moving on can figure that out. Yeah, that's why I said, 554 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: moving on. Oh, you know, everybody's like walking around and 555 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: rubber gloves, and that's what you saw in the movie. 556 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: That's what I'm seeing, you know what I mean in 557 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: my mind, you know, to clean. I'm too rugged and 558 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: mountain too rugged to be at NASA. No, it's just 559 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: just not I don't know, it just sounds a little 560 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I could imagine the concept of the of sitting around 561 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: and you know, thinking about the grand the grandeur of 562 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: it and the grandeur of the mission, you know what 563 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I mean. That's fascinating to me. The environment of being there. 564 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: It's probably such a slow moving train. I'd be like man, 565 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: sleepy time. Okay, who takes care of you the best? 566 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Who takes care of me the best? Good question? It 567 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: has to be me. Yeah, you take care of You're 568 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: in charge of your own life. I mean that's a 569 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: very simple also. M Yeah, it's just me. Um. I 570 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: think that there's certainly a good element of that. I 571 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: rely on a lot of people though for I rely 572 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: on I don't know if a lot of people, but 573 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: some people for sure, for that kind of emotional boost 574 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: when you need that emotional boost, you know, close friends 575 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: and things like that. And uh, like, there's a buddy 576 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: of mine I'm so aligned with. He's one of my 577 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: one of my dearest friends. And we don't talk every day. 578 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: You know, we'll talk sometimes we won't go from we 579 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: won't talk for a few months, but he'll reach out 580 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 1: whenever I'm feeling whatever reason. He just knows. He just 581 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: knows energetically, I believe it. That's a really weird man. 582 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: And he he and me are like really connected on 583 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: that level, and it's really weird. And I said, he'll say, hey, 584 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: how such a section? How did you? How did you 585 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: even know that? That's bugging me right now? You know, 586 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: He just like, I don't know, dude, you mean you man, 587 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: were just connected. Man, So I just thought I was 588 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna call you and and see see what's going on 589 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: with that man. That's so agreeably strange. It's a great 590 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: friend to have. Many unbelievable really unbelievable. So so my 591 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: day to day obviously, you know, I take care of me, 592 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: but but I have a network of people who who 593 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: I'm aligned with in different capacities and I and I 594 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: need every one of them, you know, I want to 595 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: say one not other thing too, because this is my 596 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: first time, like having a big dog, like having dogs too. 597 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they take so much I never noticed before, 598 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: Like they take so much care of you in ways 599 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: that you aren't even aware of, and how much support 600 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: they give and love they give, and just like that 601 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: is such a unique partnership and that bond between you know, 602 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: my dog and no dubt a bad ads man's best 603 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: friend for real, it's just you know what I mean. 604 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to acknowledge that kinship. They're totally agree. Man, 605 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: it's a special thing. It's a special thing. Every time 606 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: you show up at the house, it's like, wow, where 607 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: have you been missed? You so much? So great? Yeah, 608 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: yeah totally. And you're like just check your mail outside, 609 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like like you, oh my god, 610 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: it's you are so great, but it is and like 611 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: that tail is just wagon and like they're stomping their 612 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: feet and like that energy is just isn't that the best? 613 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: It's so it's so precious, like it's it's so precious. Okay, 614 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: ready for next question. Master, good to see you. Oh 615 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: my masters, Yeah, girlfriends, cabin's past. He's like, you don't 616 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: speak to me like buddy? Yeah the best? Master. Okay, 617 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: have you ever had you be more like buddy when 618 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: you talked to me? Have you have you ever had 619 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: an experience that led you to believe in angels or ghosts? Yeah? 620 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: M I love this question. I'm trying to think. I 621 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: don't know if it was angels or ghosts. I've experienced 622 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: miracles before. Can we here at least one? It's a 623 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: little weird, that's okay if you're willing to cell please sure. 624 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I got I got surrounded once in a 625 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: bathroom and uh wait, where were you? What bathroom? A teenager? 626 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: And uh, there are no windows in this bathroom, only 627 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: all official light. And I went in, uh to hit 628 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: the head, you know. And I walked in and there 629 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: was a group of people in there, and uh, they 630 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: said it was jump time, you know. So I was 631 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: about to jump and the lights went out, so it's 632 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: pitch black, and I was like all right, well, I 633 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: guess I have to fight a group of people. And 634 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: they were actually like reality and reality really yeah, oh 635 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And so I grew up in a prison town, 636 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: you know. So I was like, all right, I thought 637 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: to myself, well, I mean, this is gonna be a 638 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: bad minute, you know what I mean. Anyway, Um, so, 639 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: as I was waiting for the attack, uh, I was 640 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: waiting for the attack, I heard like this little this, 641 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: and that sound was the sound of a lighter, right yeah, 642 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then so then I saw the people 643 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: around me, right the group, and then I thought, okay, well, 644 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: I obviously have to hit the guy with the lighter, 645 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: because that way they have no one awoke with they're hitting, 646 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So so anyway, but even 647 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: before that happened, the lighter bled all over him and 648 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: lit him on fire, lit his hand on fire, and 649 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: it was and that was and that essentially was that 650 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: he started screaming and flailing and they're freaking out, and 651 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: they put the light on and I pushed through the 652 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: group and I walked out. I've gone out of the room. 653 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that of a lighter leaking on you. Yeah, 654 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: and so you felt that was some sort of divine intervention. 655 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: I experienced a miracle and uh, and I remember I 656 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: had heard I don't know if it was like if 657 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: it was real or not the story, but that that 658 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: year there were recalls or something on Dick Lighter's for 659 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: having some kind of weird problem. Um, but this is, 660 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: you know, twentysome years ago. Yeah, so that was like 661 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: I would call that a miracle just because you know, 662 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: that was just you know, sometimes it's just too many. 663 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: That was too many, you know what I mean. And 664 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it's wild. Yeah. So when you 665 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: see a man's hand light on fire in that one 666 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: moment we were I was like, I walked out. I 667 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, cool, thanks God. He's looking at me 668 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: like when I have a story that it sounds crazy, 669 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: I know, but I mean I'm trying to think I 670 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,439 Speaker 1: don't have anything right now honestly that I can because 671 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: because the question was angels or ghosts, Yeah, angels or ghosts. Yeah, 672 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like a ghost one. Um, 673 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: have you ever had a feeling where you felt somebody 674 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: was like next to you or have you ever do 675 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: you believe in people who can call into their side 676 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: do you believe in spirituality? Yeah, I believe in all 677 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: of that. I believe your spirits can exist around us. Um. 678 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: I believe you can tap into different spirits, or you 679 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: can transcend time a little bit and go into different 680 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: like I believe that. I'm I've been doing a lot 681 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: of energy work and stuff like that and starting to 682 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: learn about that kind of thing. I fully believe it. Um. 683 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: I believe in in out of body experiences. Um. But 684 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: do I have a specific story or anything like that 685 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: that would I would really love to share that I could. 686 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm blanking right now. Yeah, but I do 687 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: believe in all of it. I believe in angels undoubtedly. 688 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: I also believe in ghosts. If you knew you wouldn't 689 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: get hurt. Would you rather skydive or view sharks from 690 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: an underwater cage? I did an underwater I did the 691 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: underwater cage with sharks. I'm actually thinking about doing free 692 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: diving with great whites where you don't have a cage. 693 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: Would you do that with ham uh sorts? I don't 694 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: think I would do it with the play to ham 695 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: on men. Well apparently though with you? Oh yeah, I'm 696 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: way into it. I want to get in there. Just 697 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: I've never went with a giant predator. I never, but yeah, 698 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: but here, who's the predator? Gave like, are we the predator? 699 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: If you actually look at that relationship, who's the predator? Um? Well, 700 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, asked and asked the asked the sailors 701 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: who get eaten by sharks when they're when they're when 702 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: they're floating on a raft for for two weeks, and 703 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: each year there are a hundred million sharks killed in 704 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: the world. Did you know that for shark fin soup? 705 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: Then that sounds Listen, so I hear you and that 706 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: your story is touching. But the fact is, which one 707 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: should you fear when you hop in the ocean? I'm not. 708 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: I don't want to hop in their world and try 709 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: to make a buddy out of out of something whose 710 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: teeth grow back within the day. I know. But there 711 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: are people that I am serious than. So I've done 712 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: this great white sharks. I did it in Guadalupe Island. 713 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: I am seriously considering going to do a free dive 714 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: with great white sharks. I think it's okay. I think 715 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: when you die, can I have your stuff? Yeah? You 716 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: can have my percentage of if I die. That means 717 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: you're in charge of this podcast. But no swimming. It 718 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: would be could you imagine to magic man? Can you 719 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: imagine if that was your go to right there? If ga, 720 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: hey man, let's do that. We just want to check 721 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: in and see where you are. He can we do 722 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: just trying to figure out where you are? Could you 723 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: just you're alive with buddy? Have you ever been skydiving? 724 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Have you ever been skydiving? No? Yeah, I haven't either, 725 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: but I want to go. No, I would do both. 726 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: Which one would you do? Much more likely to skydive? Okay, certainly, 727 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 1: I feel like that's more that's more up to me. 728 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the hopping in the water, um, and 729 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm pretty handy in the water. I feel pretty pretty 730 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: confident in water. I'd say if I had to fight 731 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: the terrifying human being, I'd say, well, let's get in 732 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: the water. That's more like a comfortable place for me 733 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 1: to be. Ice to swim a bit now with lifeguard 734 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. And but I don't want to 735 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: be in there with sharks, no thank you, not not 736 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: gonna happen. A predator, no thank you. But that's just 737 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: because you look at them like that that's because it's 738 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: what they are. So were you No, I'm not. I'm 739 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: look how I treat this animal? Yeah, that's that's him 740 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: swimming around. Him swimming around on the surface would be 741 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: treated differently by a shark than than him walking up 742 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: to me on my yard. You know what I mean 743 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: that that you know this is my yard out here, 744 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: that the ocean is the shark's yard. And I can't 745 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: see saying go ahead, buddy, why don't you go swim 746 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: out there and you try to, you know, tap into 747 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: the psyche of millions of years of predatory evolution. Next one, 748 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Which which of your personality traits would you 749 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: like to change my feelings towards great white sharks? I'll 750 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: pick one for you being one time you're what's unpunctual? 751 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: Is it? What's your unpunctuality? Was that today you weren't? 752 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: You were actually right on that You're actually right on 753 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: the nose. It's just we didn't know at all. There 754 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: was no communicado if you were even coming. But you 755 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: made it okay. But real talk, predictability is how you win. 756 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: This isn't the art of war. What personality would you 757 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: want to change? Um? I'm merely thinking. Here. One thing 758 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do is I had a friend of mine, 759 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: Steve Weatherford, super Bowl winning kicker played for the Giants, 760 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: gave me great advice that I still take with me. 761 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: Is two years ago and gave me great advice, and 762 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: he said, Brooks, I'm gonna pray for you, and I'm 763 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna pray that you give up control that your boat 764 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: is in a river. Think of like you have. You're 765 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: a boat in a river, but your anchor down in 766 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: the river and the current is just running by you. 767 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: And I pray that you'll lift your anchor and just 768 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: let your boat go with the current. And it's just 769 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: still stuck with me. Two years later, it's still stuck 770 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: with me. And releasing releasing like certainty, releasing the need 771 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: to control circumstance advirus, that's why you want to get 772 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: in the water with the shark, because you're trying to 773 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: get over that. Maybe maybe it's yeah, just like um, 774 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: it's it's something I'm really trying to work on, and 775 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: I've made a immense strides in it, but still it's 776 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: something that quote just resonated so truly. I think what 777 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: it is is leaving space in my life for like 778 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: the unknown to come in and come through me, versus 779 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: me having to create things all the time. I think 780 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: the thing that I would actually change would be finding 781 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: that line between figuring out my happiness level with things, 782 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: not my happiness emotionally, but like where I'm at as 783 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: far as like feeling good about where I am career wise, 784 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: work wise, life wise, but also creating a sense of urgency. 785 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 1: I lack urgency because to me life is good. Yeah, 786 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: And so finding that line between getting the mission accomplished, um, 787 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 1: still being happy and feeling like I can do things 788 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,760 Speaker 1: at my own at my own rate, at my own pace, 789 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: but at the same time having enough urgency I need 790 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: to tap into moving towards yes, just because I almost 791 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: never feel like, oh, I have to get this done, 792 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, just because I feel good 793 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: about things like I feel like, well, why do I 794 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: have to get it done right now? What? What for? 795 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: You know? Um? Am I happy right now? Yeah? I'm 796 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: happy right now? But how do you mix that with 797 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: also getting things done when you when you should be 798 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: getting them done? Know, you know what I'm saying. So 799 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: here's something because I don't like to I don't like 800 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: to have I don't like to stress out. I fundamentally 801 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: pretty much never stress out. You understand what people freak out. 802 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, relax, it's good, it is okay, you know 803 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: what I mean. This is fine. It's a bump in 804 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: the road. But that's but that interferes with having a 805 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: sense of urgency to you know what I mean, everybody's 806 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: bugging out of like, relax, We're cool. We're a hundred 807 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: miles from nowhere, but we know at least it's a 808 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: hundred miles and we know it's nowhere. We know something, 809 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm always trying to be like, 810 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: just calm down, you know, I get it. Yeah, but 811 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: I also think there's a give and take with that. 812 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: Obviously there's negatives to that too. Clearly the final question, Yes, 813 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: you're trying to get to that next question, right, He 814 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 1: was about to say something right, meaningful. I was gonna 815 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: let it go. He kept giving me the nod to 816 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: go to the next No, do you want to know 817 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: what I say? You want to sometimes so you need 818 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: to say something. Here's here's something that I think about 819 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: sometimes too. If I don't follow through on something, who 820 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: suffers if I don't follow through on something, who am 821 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: I affecting negatively? Who is not benefiting? Who? Is it 822 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: just me? Though? What if it's just you and you're 823 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: like I could live with that, Yeah, that's fine then. 824 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: But sometimes when it's like a project or a thing 825 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: or something, I'm like, oh, I know that, I know 826 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: that people could use that and it could help people. 827 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: And if I just don't feel like doing I'm like, wow, 828 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,760 Speaker 1: that I'm actually gonna cost a lot of people suffering 829 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: if I don't do this for them, right, So anyway 830 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 1: something to think about maybe to help that urgency because 831 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 1: I feel the same sometimes. Yeah. T final question, would 832 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: you prefer money for a housekeeper, a cook, a gardener 833 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: or a personal assistant? Oh? What a question? Personal assistant? No? Why? 834 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: Because then you can be like, hey do all those things. 835 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: That's a great that's that's actually where's hr or there's 836 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: actually that's how that's how top CEOs make make decisions. 837 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: That's a that's a decision making process that if you 838 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: have four problems, you select the one problem to fix 839 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: that's going to fix the other three problems. So if 840 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 1: you've got a personal assistant, I guess the question is 841 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 1: the money though, you know, if you could only afford one, Yeah, 842 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: you can only have one. I think they call it 843 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: an intern. Is that just you can get them credits 844 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: so they can work for free? That's what it is. 845 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: Damn the intern A little slippery right. A housekeeper, a chef, 846 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: and a personal assistant and a personal housekeeper, a chef, 847 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 1: a guard again to take personal assistant off there because 848 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: you can actually be like, can you cook and then 849 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: go trim the edges? Is not going from the office 850 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: to your household to cook you at dinner. It depends 851 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: what that personal assists for. I would say, I would 852 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: say housekeeper. Okay, yeah, what's the main reason for that's 853 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: the one thing you hate to do most childskeeping lines? Well, 854 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,399 Speaker 1: just just because then I can I can have that 855 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: time I like. I like a clean home environment. I 856 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: just really do. I like a serenity at home, and 857 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: then if that's in place, I can take my time 858 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: and focus it on things that I need to do elsewhere. 859 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: I like to make a bean bag out of a 860 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: laundry pile. Okay, that's your that's your Yeah, what's the 861 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: one you would want? Mm hmm. A gardener, housekeeper, chef, 862 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: hard one. This is a hard one. I would say 863 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: maybe it is a eight question. Actually, I don't know. 864 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: Probably a housekeeper. I hate making the bid, something about 865 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: making the bed and just doing your laundry and like 866 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: cleaning floors or like all all that kind of stuff, 867 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: like you want to have a nice home, to a 868 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 1: nice home. A nice home creates order in your life. Yeah, 869 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a foundation. I think it's inn I 870 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,400 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think I think it really is. 871 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: So housekeeper. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's it. That's it for 872 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: these questions. I like this game. This is a good game. 873 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: And t I appreciate you, Tory, our producer Tori here 874 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: to help you were okay, I guess Tori, I'm so 875 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: glad I'm not a person. Oh my god, could you 876 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: imagine myself? Do you imagine if you were Gavin's personal assistant, 877 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: just the time that we spend together at the at 878 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: the podcast, I feel like you have to go meditate 879 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: after I'm meditating right now. That's what I'm doing. I 880 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: love this. I love this contrast right here. That's it 881 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: for those questions. So I I appreciate that Tory gave. 882 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: I always appreciate you. Man. I always appreciate your insc. 883 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: Every time we talk, I learned something more about you 884 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: and learned like your journey and you're like I learned 885 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: more about you. And perhaps there's not enough room between 886 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: our homes. Hey, how many times have I tried to 887 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 1: get you to move to l A. I always trying 888 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: to get that's true, that's true. We need to have 889 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: play date with the dogs, bro. We need to have 890 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: played what I mean, And that's why I bring Buddy 891 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: to the house. Yeah, bring Buddy to the house. Him 892 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: and cold A rip around, a couple of two year olds, 893 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: just tearing up his life. I love it. That's it 894 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: for this episode, how Man, Thank you guys. Always appreciate 895 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: you guys listening. I don't know if we say it enough, 896 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: but I always appreciate you guys listening. Yeah, I thought, 897 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: I hope you got some value and entertainment from this. 898 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: But I hope you're having a fantastic day. That's it 899 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: for now until next week. Take care of one another, 900 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: love one another, and we'll see you back here for 901 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: another episode of How Men Think. See