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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: the deep dive into the Ravens twenty eight to three

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Speaker 1: win over the Cleveland Browns. There's a lot to like

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Speaker 1: on tape about this one, Garrett.

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Speaker 2: I mean, when you win twenty eighty three, there's probably

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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot to like. Yeah, And you know,

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Speaker 2: as we said in the reaction podcast right after the game,

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Speaker 2: defense was dominant, offense was really efficient, and I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to talk through it, and I just like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's NFL week to week, of course, but like it's

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Speaker 2: just kind of crazy how different the vibe is around

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Speaker 2: the team. When Lamar Jackson played as well as he did,

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Speaker 2: the defense was totally dominant. What a difference a week makes.

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Speaker 2: And now I think that a lot of fans are

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Speaker 2: looking at this like, man, this Ravens team is gonna

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Speaker 2: be tough to stop, tough to stop. And that's just

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Speaker 2: kind of the world of the NFL week to week.

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Speaker 2: It real swings.

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Speaker 1: It really is wild. I mean, it's just you do

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Speaker 1: have to really costion yourself on extrapolating too much, too

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Speaker 1: big a picture, like takeaways from any one game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I think the Ravens are a really

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Speaker 1: good team. They have been every single week. You know,

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Speaker 1: that hasn't changed. And they're still figured it out on offense.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, they they cracked this Cleveland defense for

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns, right, the Cleveland defense that had given up

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Speaker 1: one touchdown total the previous three weeks. That's an accomplishment, right,

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Speaker 1: But like when you started the game, the first quarter

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Speaker 1: was not pretty. Yeah, you know you had three three

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Speaker 1: and out so in the four first strut, but let

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Speaker 1: me three out of four, three out of four started

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Speaker 1: with three and out. A lot of numbers, a lot

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Speaker 1: of threes there, and so you know, then they kind

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Speaker 1: of got things going in the second quarter for back

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Speaker 1: to back touchdown drives that really kind of put the

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Speaker 1: game away. But you know it was intermittent and uh.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I want to dive into the tape of

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Speaker 1: what worked well for the Ravens offensively and why they

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Speaker 1: were able to crack the Browns number one ranked defense.

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Speaker 1: And from what I saw, they really use the Browns

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Speaker 1: kind of over aggressiveness against them, right, and that's what

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Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz is known for, is this very aggressive downhill.

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Speaker 1: You got these defensive ends lined up out wide right,

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Speaker 1: you have Miles Garrett, you have Zadarias Smith, and they're

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Speaker 1: coming from that wide stance and they're crashing in the

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Speaker 1: backfield and then they're hitting their line inside linebackers through

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Speaker 1: those gaps their safeties like they come at you. And

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Speaker 1: John Harball even said like it's an all out blitzkrieg

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Speaker 1: was his his term for it, at the start of

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Speaker 1: every play, and it's kind of, you know, first handling

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Speaker 1: that first wave and being able to CounterPunch is really

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Speaker 1: what you have to do against such an aggressive defense.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just like all out blitzing, it's just

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Speaker 1: that's the scheme, right, is like kind of how they

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Speaker 1: play even straight up, and I saw that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: really did a great job of using that against them,

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Speaker 1: oftentimes with the use of motion. A lot emotion was

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers. Jay Flowers was decoy number one in this

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Speaker 1: game where Todd Munkin really kind of dialed it up

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Speaker 1: of froze some of those defensive ends when they were

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Speaker 1: lined up out wide right, you see Zay Flowers coming

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Speaker 1: you're at lined up so wide that now you have

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Speaker 1: these gaps, right, you have these gaps in your defensive

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Speaker 1: line where the Ravens are able to pull somebody leave

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Speaker 1: a defensive end un blocked, pull somebody, get double teams

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Speaker 1: and get to the second level with that pulling blocker. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really it was the run game that kind of got

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Speaker 1: the Ravens offense going. Well.

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Speaker 2: That was yeah, that was the thing. And like Zay

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Speaker 2: flowers in his on those decoy plays where he's you know,

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Speaker 2: used Devin Duvernai a lot in that role last year

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Speaker 2: and Zay is now taking over a lot of that

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Speaker 2: stuff this year. They still us Duvernai at times in

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Speaker 2: that role. But you know, you look at like the

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Speaker 2: final stat line for day and it was the biggest

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Speaker 2: play for him was at forty three yard er down

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Speaker 2: by Lamar, a great play by him set up a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: So great play there, But like it wasn't a gaudy

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Speaker 2: of those plays I think is an important one not

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Speaker 1: Well, and you set up a lot of this stuff

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers get the handoff on the jet suitep? I

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Speaker 1: mean how many times in the Texans game alone? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean that threat is there for sure, and Zay

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Speaker 1: flowers speed and his ability to make defenders miss in

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Speaker 1: the open field, Like, opponents have to respect that. And

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Speaker 1: so when you bring Zay across the formation and you

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Speaker 1: fake that handoff to him, you're really freezing that wide

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Speaker 1: d end. Yeah, Like they have to respect that. And

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Speaker 1: when you go back and you look at the ten

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown run by Lamar Jackson, the Ravens first touchdown

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Speaker 1: on the first quarter, Oh my gosh. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: like five Browns defenders are all crashing down on the za.

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Speaker 1: You have their safety on the ze motion, does it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you see the safety like pointing him out first, like

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Speaker 2: And then Lamar's waving goodbyas well.

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Speaker 1: The funny, the best part is that the two Browns

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Speaker 1: and like pushes them over as Lamar goes untouched, I

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Speaker 1: It's pretty hard to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. I mean there's not There's one of the

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Speaker 2: things Top Monk has talked about from literally the day

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Speaker 2: he got here was creating space. I mean, you get

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Speaker 2: of it. It is condensed, but somehow and basically this

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Speaker 2: is how the Ravens created a decoy that the Browns

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Speaker 2: bought hard to go after Zave Flowers and then that

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Speaker 2: created nothing but open space for Lamar Jackson a cruise

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Speaker 1: It was part of like the red seas.

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Speaker 2: But I mean plenty of space, plenty of space for

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Speaker 1: Yep. I mean and even on his second touchdown run,

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Speaker 1: It was it was a he block.

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Speaker 2: Basically, he played. He made himself a pinball. He made

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Speaker 1: Was yonda well Yanda, there was one that was known

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he did. I'm sure he did,

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Speaker 2: But I can't remember who said this to me at

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Speaker 2: one point. It might have been Recard or I think

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Speaker 2: it was a full back. Maybe you check. But something

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Speaker 2: needs to be this like this dominant, pancake like block.

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Speaker 1: You just need to get in the way. We'll tell

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Speaker 1: patrickcard and call.

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Speaker 2: I know, maybe it probably wasn't Patten how to think

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Speaker 2: Linnen Bomb like Lennarbaum, basically he just got in the

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Speaker 2: throwing it into reverse and running into a guy with

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Speaker 2: his back. Like, that's not how you're gonna draw That's

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Speaker 2: how you draw it up in the film room and

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Speaker 2: But like he's crafty. Yep, Yonda was incredibly crafty. And

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought the Ravens like gap scheme running was

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Speaker 1: really good this game. And and obviously you had the

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Speaker 1: albatross of Miles Garrett. Right, it's like going into the game,

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Speaker 1: it's how do you handle that dude? Yeah, from a

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Speaker 1: Pat McCarey had his hands full. Like we said, Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett didn't wreck the game, but he was a factor, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, was actually the highest pressure rate of his entire career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So he had a good game.

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Speaker 2: So he had a good game. Like he was in

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Speaker 2: It's not like you just all right neutralized Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: And I thought that Lamar's ad a really good job sometimes,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you had blitzes and you had Miles

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Speaker 1: about it, it wasn't just that the Ravens created gaps for

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Speaker 1: the running game. It was also you created some gaps

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Speaker 1: for Lamar to step up the play that really was remarkable.

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Speaker 1: Lamar's part on their first of the two second quarter

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Speaker 1: touchdown drives when he hit Mark Andrews across his body

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Speaker 1: that one. I mean, he just does a great job.

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Speaker 1: We have a blitzing linebacker, you have Miles Garrett coming

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Speaker 1: off the edge and found a crease to step up

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Speaker 1: Twitter saying if Pat Mahomes makes that play where we've

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Speaker 1: seen it fifty times by now by Monday morning, it

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Speaker 1: was a great play by Lamar to step up through

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Speaker 1: that gap. I thought he he really maneuvered the pocket

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Speaker 1: in the space in the pocket very well in this game.

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Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the long bomb to Za.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was really good blocking up front too

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Speaker 1: to give him that time. And then he rolled away

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Speaker 1: love Lamar throwing on the run, by the way, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: when he's when he's rolling out and he's on the move,

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Speaker 1: like I feel like that's sometimes when he throws his

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Speaker 1: most accurate deep ball. So I thought Lamar did a

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Speaker 1: good job handling that pressure. And one thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: also have to run against him, and I thought the

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Speaker 1: Ravens did a really good job of running at him. Right.

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Speaker 1: So one the Melvin Gordon twenty two yard run that

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Speaker 2: He plays quarterback. He wears number eight.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I think it really was. And I know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's like five six throw He made five

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Speaker 1: That play exactly. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this a great play. And then the other I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I think that Todd Monkins deserves a

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Speaker 1: I mean there's not a lot of secrets here. I

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Speaker 2: Got after him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the pressure up front was relentless. It is

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Speaker 1: so fun to watch what Mike McDonald has done scheme

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Speaker 1: of Lounge that we did with him last week. Is

435
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Speaker 1: really impressed with what Mike McDonald has done with his role,

436
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Speaker 1: right and really freeing him up to get those past

437
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Speaker 1: rush opportunities and play his kind of style where he

438
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Speaker 1: can line up anywhere and be this kind of versatile guy.

439
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Speaker 1: You're seeing that payoff in spades for Javion Clowney. I

440
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: think he's ninth in the league in pressures right, He's

441
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Speaker 1: on track for eighty quarterback pressures this year. Now, you know,

442
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Speaker 1: we talked to Javon. He wants to finish this as

443
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Speaker 1: bad as you know we want we all want to

444
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Speaker 1: see him finish some of those sacks. He wants it.

445
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Speaker 1: And you see in this game, Gosh, going through the reps,

446
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Speaker 1: I mean, he really did have a shot at four

447
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 1: of them legitimately. Yeah.

448
00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's living in the backfield, just needs to

449
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Speaker 2: get home on a came of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's so quick off the step. I mean,

451
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: like the swipes, the moves, like he is just really twitchy,

452
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Speaker 1: uh in those first like three steps. Yeah.

453
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Speaker 2: I've just I've been really impressed with him. And you know,

454
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Speaker 2: like he made the point. You know, this was part

455
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Speaker 2: of I think some of the frustration last year in

456
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Speaker 2: Cleveland is like he made the point on the podcast,

457
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Speaker 2: like I didn't really have a role. My role was

458
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Speaker 2: basically played one spot, and then Scarett moved all over

459
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Speaker 2: the place. Now he's he's the one that's kind of

460
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Speaker 2: moving all over the place, and so the Ravens had

461
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Speaker 2: the flexibility with him because he's he's such a freak

462
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Speaker 2: athlete to use him in creative ways and you're seeing that,

463
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Speaker 2: and I think it's paying off now. I think that

464
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Speaker 2: he's going to get home on those like like I

465
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Speaker 2: think that the you know, it hasn't hurt the Ravens.

466
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Speaker 1: You know, well, his pressure is still create problem.

467
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Speaker 2: No, they exactly. I think it's a good point. They

468
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Speaker 2: create problems.

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Speaker 1: I mean one led to the Geno Stone pick. Yes,

470
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Speaker 1: one led to Dorian Thompson Robinson just dropping the ball,

471
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Speaker 1: which was a huge loss.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he was gonna get on that one.

473
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Speaker 2: I was like, I was actually wondering when I watched

474
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Speaker 2: that live. I'm like, anyway, they give him like a

475
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Speaker 2: force fumble there because he was like he kind of

476
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Speaker 2: forced that even though he was on his seals. He

477
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: was on he was like six inches away from him

478
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Speaker 2: and and uh, you know, Dorian thoms Robinson just dropped it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, those pressures matter, like sacks of

480
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Speaker 1: all you want them, of course, but like when it

481
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Speaker 1: leads to an interception, cool, I'm good with that. You know.

482
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Speaker 1: One another led to just a throwaway, right, Like the

483
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Speaker 1: dude is the dude is making his presence felt, and

484
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Speaker 1: it's been I mean, considering the injuries a huge get

485
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Speaker 1: for Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that like the Ravens, the late additions

487
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Speaker 2: they made to the team, him being one of them. Obviously,

488
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Speaker 2: Kyle n Nois came in and played well. Ronald Darby,

489
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Speaker 2: like late Arby's played really well, and he's played really

490
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Speaker 2: well when they really needed it given the Marlin Humphrey injury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So like you've got these late additions that the Ravens

493
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Speaker 2: added to the equation, I mean, one of them a

494
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Speaker 2: few days before the game, and to like have them

495
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Speaker 2: come in step in immediately play make an impact, I

496
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Speaker 2: think is a pretty impressive thing for this team. And

497
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 2: also like it's really fortunate the Rams were able to

498
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Speaker 2: get that caliber player at the right time.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And I think it also speaks to Mike McDonald's

500
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Speaker 1: defense and the coaches on the whole defensive staff that

501
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Speaker 1: they're able to catch these guys up so quickly. Yeah,

502
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Speaker 1: you know, it's credit to the players for learning it,

503
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Speaker 1: and it's also a credit to their system and being

504
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Speaker 1: able to put a guy like van Ney in a

505
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Speaker 1: place where he can contribute whatever four or five days

506
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Speaker 1: after being signed, you know what I mean. Ye, that's

507
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Speaker 1: pretty impressive. So you know, and then defensively. We talk

508
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Speaker 1: about it every single week. Roquan Smith and Patrick Queen

509
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Speaker 1: are on another level. I mean Rokwan Smith, you know,

510
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Speaker 1: there is a lot of talk about his words going

511
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Speaker 1: into this game, and golly day. I mean you watch

512
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Speaker 1: you know, third quarter, late third quarter, it's a blowout.

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Speaker 1: He's ripping guys heads off. I mean, like just ripping

514
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Speaker 1: helmets straight off. I mean dtr Toriian Thomson Robinson, I

515
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Speaker 1: mean that man got pummeled on the one where Yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly think that I was second quarter,

517
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Speaker 1: first score in the first half when he scrambled and

518
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: he had a decent scramble and then he tried to

519
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Speaker 1: lateral it and he got destroyed. Yeah by Roquan and Peek.

520
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Speaker 1: You were so on the seals two. It was kind

521
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Speaker 1: of like both of them were hitting him at the

522
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Speaker 1: same time.

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Speaker 3: Oh my.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I honestly think that changed him for

525
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Speaker 1: the rest of the game. I mean, things were kind

526
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Speaker 1: of getting a little wacky. Like that was like the

527
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Speaker 1: twenty yard loss that they had where the Ravens just

528
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Speaker 1: totally had that whole play sniffed out. The Browns basically

529
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Speaker 1: tried a little trickery they're in the they're on I

530
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Speaker 1: think they're like the eighteen there, just inside the resume,

531
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Speaker 1: try a trigger you with a creative kind of formation.

532
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Speaker 1: And then Elijah Moore comes on the Jets sweep and

533
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens just totally walled off.

534
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Speaker 2: I mean they're just going nowhere.

535
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Speaker 1: They were going. They had that like sniffed out.

536
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Speaker 2: And he made the classic mistake that I'm sure the

537
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Speaker 2: coaches on the Brown sideline were saying, like, no stop.

538
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Speaker 1: He thought he was playing maddening first field and that

539
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: is not a good thing to do against this Ravens defense. Yeah,

540
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: that was that was ridiculous. And uh and then and

541
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Speaker 1: then I think that that hit they put on dcr

542
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Speaker 1: on the lateral that had to stick with him. Yeah,

543
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: things got kind of wacky after that.

544
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Speaker 2: I think he felt it, Like he felt it in

545
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Speaker 2: a big way. And I just felt like as the

546
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Speaker 2: game wore along, like he just seemed he seemed less

547
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Speaker 2: confident and like a little more rattled.

548
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was the ball up in harms way and.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like at that point, it's your first game

550
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: and this defense is hitting you hard. Like he just

551
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: seemed to feel it. And I think that took its

552
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Speaker 2: toll over the course of the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool too to see Roquan Smith, like

554
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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of a blowout, still sniffing out,

555
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, running back screens and just detonating on them.

556
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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy just like he says, it's every

557
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Speaker 1: single snap, one hundred miles per hour, every single snap

558
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Speaker 1: all game long. That's not just talk, right, Like it's

559
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Speaker 1: I like the talk. It's good talk, but it's not

560
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Speaker 1: just talk. Oh, that's the way the dude plays. And

561
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Speaker 1: you know, did you see the quote from Clowney about

562
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Speaker 1: how he's the best linebacker that he's ever played with,

563
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Speaker 1: and he's played with some good buddies yep, who are

564
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Speaker 1: inside linebacker, and nobody's better than Rokuan not only just

565
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Speaker 1: how he plays on the field, but what he does

566
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Speaker 1: all week on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and how

567
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: that elevates the rest of the guys around him to

568
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: see the way he approaches a game. Yeah, it was

569
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Speaker 1: pretty pretty strong stamp of approval from Javion Clowney.

570
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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Another thing I want to point out in

571
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Speaker 2: this game, and this is it's specific to this game,

572
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: but it's really broader, is Brandon Stevens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing, you know, when I'm going through

574
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: the film and like they just don't complete many balls,

575
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, what's his name, Gosh, the Browns Amari

576
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: Cooper caught one ball against Brandon Stevens. Yeah, he caught

577
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Speaker 1: one ball for like sixteen yards. I mean, heck of

578
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Speaker 1: a day. But like when you're watching it, it's not

579
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Speaker 1: that it's just not as fun to watch shutdown cornerback play.

580
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Speaker 1: I guess you know, it's like, all right, the ball

581
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: didn't come his way, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

582
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: he had good coverage, he didn't throw it his way. Like, yeah,

583
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't know why. That's just a little trigger. I

584
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet. Yeah, Okay, Well, I like to

585
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: be honest. For me, it's like it's less about this

586
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: game because I recognize that, like the Browns are without

587
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Speaker 1: the starting cornerback. They get a rookie fifth round pick

588
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: playing in his first game, and as we just talked about,

589
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: like he's he's getting pushed around a little bit. But

590
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Speaker 1: with with Brandon Stevens, like he's played at a really

591
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Speaker 1: high level and hopefully Marlin Humphrey's coming back at some

592
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Speaker 1: point soon.

593
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Speaker 2: Maybe this week.

594
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Speaker 1: We'll see.

595
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Speaker 2: But John Harble I said this week, like, first of all,

596
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Brandon's moved all over the place, as we well know,

597
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: the plan is to keep him a cornerback, like he's

598
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: played so well, They're like, all right, he should be

599
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: a cornerback. That's what he should play. And when we

600
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Speaker 2: talked to him, he made the point that like, yeah,

601
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Speaker 2: I like corner Like that's that's where I want to be.

602
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: And you know, it'll be interesting to see how the

603
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: Ravens approach things like do they move Marlin to outside corner?

604
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: Do they move Brandon Stevens? Do they did they keep

605
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens at the same side? Do they does it?

606
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: Is it Marlon and Brandon is the top two corners?

607
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: And then who plays in the slot? Do they do

608
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 2: they move Marlon Humphrey in the slot? Of times? Do

609
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: they move Caught Hamilton in the slot? Of times they

610
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: move off them?

611
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: All?

612
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: Let to the slot?

613
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: Like, well that's exclusively were Arthur Miller?

614
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but not moved. Do they put him in

615
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: the slot?

616
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

617
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: I think basically, if it's two corners, I think it's

618
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: gonna be Brdon Stevens and Roland Humphrey, like Brandon to me,

619
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Speaker 2: has solidified himself as the as the starter opposite of Marlin,

620
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Speaker 2: and that means you have depth there with Ronald Darby

621
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Speaker 2: and Rocket Scene.

622
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Speaker 1: It's wild, Like we spent so much time talking about this,

623
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of fretting around Baltimore about the

624
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: Ravens cornerback depth and it got thin there during training camp.

625
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: That was before it even Marlon went down. And then

626
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: you look at it now and you're like, man, you

627
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: got you know, Darby's playing really well, Rocky Scene's playing well.

628
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: Where do you don't even have a spot for him

629
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Speaker 1: in two corner situations? You know, like, yeah, it's they've

630
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Speaker 1: They've got an abundance of depth there and that's that

631
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: can serve you really well. And I think the Ravens

632
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: are just gonna play. You don't have to make that

633
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: decision and say, all right, this is what it's gonna be.

634
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: Here's who's playing the slot every every snap and every game, right,

635
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Like they can play matchups, they can roll it. That's

636
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: that's their advantage is to play I think a number

637
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: of different you have a number of different scenarios that

638
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: you can use formationally, you know, what do you want

639
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: to do on that specific play matchup wise, what kind

640
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: of you know, who are you facing, what are their

641
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: strengths or just game plan wise? Right, And so I

642
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: think that you you have a lot of Mike McDonald

643
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: has a lot of different avenues that he can go.

644
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: What's your what's your guess for? Like, all right, I

645
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: know I think all that is true. And if you

646
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: play a big tight end, you maybe will say that's

647
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: what Kyle Hamilton moore on the slot against a tight end,

648
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: But like, and that's you know, Let's say Marcus Williams

649
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: comes back this week, like he was full participant in

650
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: practice some time last week and he didn't end up playing,

651
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: but I gotta believe he's close if he's fully participating

652
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: in practice. So like, if he's back out there, did

653
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: you put Kyle Hamilton, him and Kyle Hamilton as your

654
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: two safeties and then your three corners b Brandon, Marlin

655
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: and Darby with Marlon in the slot? To me, that's

656
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: my thought, Like in that situation, I think the most

657
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: likely scenario like that is that question.

658
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: The question is do you really it comes down to

659
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: who do you like having on the few do you

660
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: want on the field more Geno Stone or Rock. You

661
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: seen slash Ronald Dark I love the slash. Yeah, they're both.

662
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: They're splitting Repsby Derby played two thirds. Yeah you've seen

663
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: played a third, but yeah, Rock played.

664
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 2: Just put a bunch of slash Ronald Darby slash you're

665
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: seeing slash Steven, slash Mullett, slash Malette.

666
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of slashes. That's that's that's

667
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: that's what Mike McDonald wants. He wants a lot of slashes. Yeah, yeah,

668
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: And I mean kind of that's what it comes down to, right,

669
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: always played well. So I don't know that there's an

670
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: easy answer there, And like I said, I don't think

671
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: there has to be one answer. Like you're trying to

672
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: put me on the spot, you're trying to put me answer.

673
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: I I probably like the the three Marlin in the slot,

674
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, I like I mean, I like that a lot.

675
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: But I like Gino too. I don't know. It's tough

676
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: to pick man.

677
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: But maybe just put twelve guys out there and see

678
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: if you get called to. I think that's the approach.

679
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: That's what we tried on special teams at one time.

680
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: Hang and the rest are watching that try something else.

681
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So the other big news coming out of John

682
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Harball's Money press conference, David Ajabo has a decision to make. Yeah,

683
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean it might be a season ending injury. It

684
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: sounds like he's basically reading between the lines deciding whether

685
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna get surgery or not. On John Harbell said

686
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: it was a knee so to be determined on that one. Obviously,

687
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: I would love to have him turn from IR, but

688
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: he and the Ravens have to do it's best for them.

689
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's that's a tough one. You miss

690
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: almost your whole rookie year coming back from the Achilles

691
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: and now you suffer a knee injury. Just kind of

692
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: got rolled up on early in that Colts game. It

693
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: looked like and for a guy that I think we

694
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: were all really excited about, and you know, he gets

695
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: a sack in the in week one, sack force fumble

696
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: in week one. I mean, he and o Way were

697
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: really the guys coming into the season pass rush wise,

698
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: and now you have both of them on the shelf,

699
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: but potentially one for the whole year. I think Gadaf

700
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: is going to come back in the coming week or

701
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: weeks he's not too far off. But that's tough news

702
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: about David Ajavo.

703
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, now the positive is I already mentioned Marlin, so

704
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: that you know this is the range. He's in the

705
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: range where he could come back. So we'll see, you know,

706
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: it would be you know, I always kind of felt

707
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: like they would maybe give him a practice week and

708
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: then and then get him out there, you know, after

709
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 2: he has some time to practice. He has not returned

710
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: to practice yet, so I think the practice report will

711
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: be an indication this week.

712
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Like he is Marlon Humphrey needs Mordally, it's physical. He like,

713
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he and the Ravens medical staff are

714
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: going through the physical aspect of this, right, they're testing

715
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: that foot from a physical standpoint.

716
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: He's basically just been on the shelf now for six

717
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: plus and so.

718
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Like there's a question of rust. I think, like how

719
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: much like to as you need for Marlin to shake

720
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: off the rust.

721
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 2: But I think it's like the rest of your body too.

722
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know that, like, has he been ramping up.

723
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

724
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: On the side with the medical staff, I wouldn't rule

725
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: that out. Just because he's not practicing doesn't mean he's

726
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: not in a ramp up process. We just don't see that, right,

727
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: we don't see all that. Maybe it isn't happening. I

728
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just saying it's possible. And I kind

729
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: of the point of what I'm saying is I push

730
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: back a little bit on the notion that Marlon Humphrey

731
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: needs a week of practice, like two weeks of practice

732
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: before we see him in Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily

733
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: sign off on Yeah.

734
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's a mandate, you know.

735
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously the guy knows the defense in and out right,

736
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: and I think it's mostly he needs the practice just

737
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: to kind of shake off the russ and get some

738
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: live quote unquote bullet.

739
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: Yes, and then of course you see how it feels,

740
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: how does it respond all that stuff once you're back

741
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: out there on the field, Tyas Spouser is elsible to

742
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: come back and and so you could get some up there. Yeah,

743
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 2: you can get some reinforcements there it outside linebacker with

744
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: Millie cam Anti Spouser. And then yeah, Keith Mitchell. I

745
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: think Mitchell is a really interesting one. Everyone was excited

746
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: about him the way he played this summer. The Ravens

747
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: have used three practice squad elevations so far, Melvin Gordon

748
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: have these three?

749
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, three, I.

750
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 2: Think it's three, Okay, So what.

751
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: They either he would have to go to the fifty

752
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: three or stay on the practice right.

753
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: And so the status there of Keaton Mitchell is he

754
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: healthy enough to come back and play? Do they just

755
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: want to activate him and give him a role in

756
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: this offense? You know, undrafted rookie again, he impressed in the.

757
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: Preseason and Justice Hill were sideline there, you know for

758
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's early, was like all right, keeping

759
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: Mitchell step right up. But you know, now you have

760
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: Kenny and Drake as well, yep, so they can continue

761
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: to elevate Kenny and Drake and then yeah, you're right,

762
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean maybe then Keaton Mitchell becomes the third running

763
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: back potentially.

764
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean it's there's some there's some.

765
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: Tyas Bowser is you know, of the three guys eligible

766
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: to return, that's the biggest. That's the headliner, right, I

767
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: mean you talk about this outside linebacker corps, especially without

768
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: a Fa and Najabo, the return of Tyas Bowser would

769
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: be a big deal. I Mean, here's a guy who.

770
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: Is one of the higher paid players on this defense.

771
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: He had what seven sacks two years ago, he had

772
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: a career year and then he suffered the achilles and

773
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: last year, you know, when he came back, it wasn't

774
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was kind of shaking it

775
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: off a little bit, had a couple of sacks. But

776
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: that would be a big deal, especially for the Ravens

777
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: pass coverage from an outside linebacker standpoint. Really good player

778
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: in that regard, kind of you know, similar to a

779
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy is also known for his pass coverage.

780
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: But that would be another big time body to get

781
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: out there and give the Ravens where we're still in

782
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: depth at outside linebacker.

783
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

784
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: You know what Morgan Moses is the other injury, Oh yeah, yeah.

785
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: So John Harwell did not really have an update on him,

786
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: said it's not a long long term injury. That will

787
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: know more for Wednesday than MRI was still being evaluated.

788
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: But that you know, when we talk about t J.

789
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: Watt coming up with the Steelers and he plays off

790
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: the right tackle, that's a big deal. If Morgan can't play,

791
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: here's a guy who hasn't missed the game since his

792
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: rookie year. So if he can play, he will play. Yeah,

793
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: but it well, the good news is it sounds like

794
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: he's not going to be out for the whole year.

795
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be out for you know, maybe he

796
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: misses a chunk of time.

797
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

798
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: The other question there, like, let's just say Morgan Moses

799
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: doesn't play. Do the Ravens put fall the right tackle

800
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: or do.

801
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: They if Stanley comes back.

802
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: McCarey, if Stanley's able to you know, Stanley practiced this

803
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: last week, never fully, but he at least was on

804
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 2: the practice field. Did not practice on Friday. So is

805
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 2: Ronnie Stanley after missing two games, able to get back

806
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: on the field. Certainly you hope that the case, and

807
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: then you have flexibility with McCarry.

808
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm not just CJ. Watt too. On the other side,

809
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: is Alex Heighsmith. Yeah, very good.

810
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: They have a great defense. They have great two great

811
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: guys coming off the Yeah, it's just a tough assignment.

812
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 2: I mean it's Pittsburgh's other defense, So like it's gonna

813
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: be a tough tough assignment for those time I.

814
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Don't have Kim Heyward. Inside linebacker has been a sore

815
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: spot of theirs in recent years. But yeah, the edge.

816
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's kind of similar to the Browns

817
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: defense in a way.

818
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I'll just be curious to see today

819
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: what they do with at right tackle. If if Moses

820
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: missus time do you put do you put McCarry out there?

821
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Like that's the probably mcarry.

822
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: I probably would put McCarry out there.

823
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's played well at left tackle. He's held

824
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: his own, he knows how to how to do it

825
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: on either side of the defense. So you want to

826
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 2: have that. That's part of the beauty of him. You

827
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: have that flexibility with him. He's the veteran, he's the

828
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: sixth man.

829
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so if Stanley's back, well, then the sixth

830
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: man takes over for the one spot. Yeah, right tackle

831
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: that that's what I would think, but who knows.

832
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: All right, So before we go, are you are you

833
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna forget your dog of the week?

834
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're right, are you?

835
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: I mean we got an email, We got an email.

836
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: We're like two weeks in.

837
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is we did it once and now you

838
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: already forgot. You're you're supposed to do your talking this week.

839
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: And also we got an email here from John Stremmel

840
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: at the last at Ravenston NFL dot net. He he

841
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: has some submissions, he did, Yeah, he has submissions. Yeah,

842
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 2: Smark Andrews and rookwand Smith.

843
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's he it's that's it's between the tough

844
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: thing is you know Roquan is like he's just a

845
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: dog every week. I mean, it says Mark. But you know,

846
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I think you go back to last week and Roquan

847
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Smith had the quote about you know, oh, we're going

848
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: into the dog pound. I'm a dog myself, Pryce, can

849
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: we roll that clip?

850
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going there as the enemy to go take over,

851
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: and that's all plan to actually go take over. I

852
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 3: think they call it the dog pound. I consider myself

853
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: a dog. So I'm right at home and that play,

854
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: so I'm excited to get back in there. And I

855
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: know they have physical football team, but so are we.

856
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go, Roquan Smith already calling

857
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: himself a dog. Then he goes out there and he

858
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: basically takes a man soul on the lateral. On the

859
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: lateral play, Uh, I think I gotta give it. With

860
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: all the talk, all that stuff about going into another

861
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: man's house and beating their butts in front of their

862
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: wives and kids. My no, the big no, the top

863
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: no of the week goes to Roquan Smith.

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Speaker 2: All right, I gotta give it to him. Look, I

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Speaker 2: the game ball afterwards. Yep, and uh the guys were

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Speaker 2: firing up about it. Clearly like that. He's a tone center.

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Speaker 2: And I think he did that last week and then

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Speaker 2: he got to tell you that on Sunday. So very

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Speaker 2: deserving Dog of the week.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how many rokwon racks up? Who won it

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Speaker 1: last week? Last week was Coyle Hamilton? Right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, this three sacks because you can just kind

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Speaker 2: of pass.

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Speaker 1: We need to retroactively go back to the first two weeks,

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Speaker 1: or because I feel like there should be like some

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Speaker 1: award for the given to the guy. Is it dog bones?

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Speaker 1: You don't know what it is, but we got to

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Speaker 1: come up with you.

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Speaker 2: Have a you have a puppy that you now have

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Speaker 2: to take care of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, puppy. We're gonna have to think on this some more.

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