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Speaker 2: The video is apocalyptic.
Speaker 3: Some of the news broadcast I'm watching with what's happened
Speaker 3: in California, Los Angeles, Pacific Palisades.
Speaker 2: Man, it's heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: It's one thing when you get out of your house
Speaker 3: and you're safe and you've evacuated, but you still lost
Speaker 3: your house. And that video it is it is really
Speaker 3: really tough. It's it's devastating in more ways than one.
Speaker 3: So the firefighters, thank God for them. And I always
Speaker 3: think about this, you know, whenever you're in a hometown,
Speaker 3: you're small town and you see the firefighters out there
Speaker 3: and they'll have that day where they have their boots
Speaker 3: and they're collecting money. Think about that next time. Just
Speaker 3: think about that next time with those great people. But uh,
Speaker 3: you know, well, this feels like it's a yearly thing
Speaker 3: that goes on an annual thing. Unfortunately with California and
Speaker 3: these winds are whipping, I mean eighty ninety miles per hour,
Speaker 3: you're not sure where to go even when you evacuate.
Speaker 3: Talking to a friend last night at two in the
Speaker 3: morning my time, and he said, I don't know where
Speaker 3: to go in the which direction said, it's scary, so
Speaker 3: the proverbial thoughts and prayers, but certainly more than that,
Speaker 3: whatever that is, certainly more than that. But really really
Speaker 3: that you watch and you're like, that is real, and
Speaker 3: that's happening right now. It's almost like from a movie set.
Speaker 3: But it's not all right.
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Speaker 3: Chase Daniel, the former quarterback. He'll join us from now.
Speaker 3: He's driving up from San Diego to Los Angeles and
Speaker 3: he works for Fox Sports one. So hopefully Chase will
Speaker 3: be okay commuting from San Diego up there with the fires.
Speaker 3: Mike Florio on the comings and goings here of you know,
Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce gets fired. I was not surprised that he
Speaker 3: got fired. This has Tom Brady's fingerprints all over it.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, as a minority owner, if I'm Mark Davis,
Speaker 3: it'd be crazy not to use Tom as the sounding
Speaker 3: board to say what do you think we should do,
Speaker 3: how do you think that we should approach this, and
Speaker 3: what coach do you have in mind?
Speaker 2: So Florio will join us a little bit later on
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: Got a poll question, Play of the Day, stat of
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Speaker 3: Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. Got a
Speaker 3: big basketball game tonight. It'll be the Thunder against the Cavaliers.
Speaker 3: Thunder the best in the West, the Calves the best
Speaker 3: in the East. That's National TV. And then you'll have
Speaker 3: Spurs in the Bucks so you got Wemby against the
Speaker 3: Greek freak. So maybe basketball will take the spotlight and
Speaker 3: showcase some great talent, some great teams there coming up
Speaker 3: later on tonight. Back to Antonio Pierce being fired, I
Speaker 3: didn't think he was going to keep his job because
Speaker 3: of Tom Brady coming in. Now, if they had the
Speaker 3: number one pick, then I thought, sure, he's not gonna
Speaker 3: keep his job. It's you want to come in, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's start. Let's start with a coach and maybe we
Speaker 3: get a quarterback here. I thought they were gonna go
Speaker 3: all in on Michael Pennox last year. Now they could
Speaker 3: have gotten bow Nicks, but they got Rock Bowers, who
Speaker 3: is gonna finish runner up and Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 3: He was great, But you gotta find your quarterback. Now,
Speaker 3: imagine if you had your quarterback. I mean that's another thing.
Speaker 3: When you look at Rock Bowers and Malik Neighbors. They
Speaker 3: put up these unbelievable seasons with bad quarterback play, which
Speaker 3: makes it like if you're grading it on a curve,
Speaker 3: Damn that's impressive. So here are the Raiders with the
Speaker 3: sixth pick. Now, it's not a heavy quarterback draft. You're
Speaker 3: gonna have cam Ward, who right now is the favor
Speaker 3: to be the number one pick. If the Titans hold
Speaker 3: on to it, then Shadoor Sanders. Then you're gonna have
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe at some point. But if you're the Raiders,
Speaker 3: are you going to get maybe somebody in free agency?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: I was talking to somebody, a former TV executive who
Speaker 3: is well connected with the owners around the league, and
Speaker 3: I'm talking to him about a couple of things, and
Speaker 3: I said, would the Raiders kick the tires on Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3: He said, well yes, and he goes, I would too,
Speaker 3: because Aaron respect for Tom Brady. Raiders, you're playing inside.
Speaker 2: Half of your.
Speaker 3: Games are going to be now granted you're in the
Speaker 3: AFC West, but if you want to do that bridge
Speaker 3: quarterback there And I said, okay, Like, I just I
Speaker 3: can't get into the Aaron Rodgers business now.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 3: And I know those are respectable numbers that he put up,
Speaker 3: but there's just so much more that's going to go
Speaker 3: with this.
Speaker 2: Now, are you like, what do you have and you
Speaker 2: bring him in? What do you like? What are your expectations? Hey,
Speaker 2: let's win five games.
Speaker 3: Hey, it doesn't matter what our record's going to be
Speaker 3: peop who are still going to show up.
Speaker 2: We're a tourist destination.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the mindset would be for the
Speaker 3: Raiders that how quickly do they want to win? But
Speaker 3: if Tom Brady's involved in this, Tom Brady, he's not
Speaker 3: used to losing, and that's what I think. How do
Speaker 3: you expedite this? Does he bring in Mike Rabel? Does
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel? And this is another thing I asked the
Speaker 3: former TV exect. I said, does Mike Rabel turn down
Speaker 3: the Patriots as a way of showing respect to Bill Belichick?
Speaker 3: Because what happened at the very end with the Craft
Speaker 3: family in Belichick?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: He said, yes, I could see that happening now. Once again,
Speaker 3: this is just somebody's opinion on this, because I don't
Speaker 3: think anybody really knows what goes on with the Patriots.
Speaker 2: They're pretty, you know, close to the best.
Speaker 3: But if you're Mike Brabel and you have respect for Belichick,
Speaker 3: would you want to go back to where Bill coached
Speaker 3: and created this legacy? And he's going to have I
Speaker 3: think multiple opportunities. I think Brabel will have a couple
Speaker 3: of different places to choose from, which is interesting because
Speaker 3: he was available last year and maybe he decided that
Speaker 3: he didn't want to coach, didn't want to be a
Speaker 3: head coach, maybe wanted to kind of step back be,
Speaker 3: you know, a consultant for the Cleveland Browns. But now
Speaker 3: he's going to get that opportunity. But Brady's got to
Speaker 3: get his quarterback. That's the crazy part of this that
Speaker 3: the greatest quarterback now needs to find a quarterback and
Speaker 3: who's going to be good enough?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Is that where you go to Sam Darnold. That's a
Speaker 3: possibility as well. So I think there's so much going on.
Speaker 3: Then you got the Dallas Cowboy situation Mike McCarthy. Now
Speaker 3: the Cowboys said no, you can't interview with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting that in a week's time, if
Speaker 3: he's not re signed, they can't do anything about it.
Speaker 3: But then if he's not rescign and then they're not
Speaker 3: bringing like, I don't know what the hold up there is.
Speaker 3: But Jerry Jones after the game on Sunday was asked
Speaker 3: about Mike McCarthy interviewing elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Then I would say, go talk. I really would go talk.
Speaker 5: Sounds like I just.
Speaker 6: Let Zeke do that got But I don't want anybody
Speaker 6: here that's not healthy to have somebody around it wants
Speaker 6: to be someplace else.
Speaker 3: Really, it's not Okay, then why didn't you deny permission?
Speaker 3: Mike doesn't want to interview with the Bears. He'd rather
Speaker 3: stay with the Cowboys. But if you're not going to
Speaker 3: resign him and let hingm go interview with the Bears,
Speaker 3: mind boggling. Mind boggling. All right, Seaton, what's pole question
Speaker 3: for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 2: Well, we got a few of them here for you.
Speaker 5: Let's see PAULI sent one over the head coachless team
Speaker 5: that feels furthest from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Furthest from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Head coachless the phrase this sounds weird. Look at this,
Speaker 3: we're head coachless. How's the rest of the body? Okay, well,
Speaker 3: let me think about that. Maybe we'll do that in
Speaker 3: a few minutes. Okay, what else do you have?
Speaker 4: Seed?
Speaker 5: Uh, let's see we have better gig Fox Broadcaster or
Speaker 5: Raiders front office.
Speaker 3: Well, he is a part owner, so that's different than
Speaker 3: and they kept Tom toe LESCo as their GM.
Speaker 2: I just see Brady as a one and done.
Speaker 3: He does the Super Bowl and then he decides that
Speaker 3: he's going to be more involved with the Raiders. I
Speaker 3: just don't see Tom sort of in and like one
Speaker 3: foot in, one foot out with the Raiders.
Speaker 2: I just he's too much of a competitor.
Speaker 3: And it's one thing you can compete in this business,
Speaker 3: like I compete with myself every day. We compete, you know,
Speaker 3: with ourselves each day. But this is different. These are
Speaker 3: wins and losses with Tom and creating something, building something,
Speaker 3: and I think that would probably intrigue him as opposed
Speaker 3: to being a broadcaster. I mean, Tom can be at
Speaker 3: a certain level and he knows that there'll just be
Speaker 3: people who don't like him just because he's Tom Brady
Speaker 3: or he beat their team or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3: You know, Tom is competing against Tom, and I think
Speaker 3: that I don't know if he gets the same kind
Speaker 3: of adrenaline rush now he will when you do a
Speaker 3: playoff game, when you do the Super Bowl, Tom's going
Speaker 3: to be like, oh my god, that was awesome, but
Speaker 3: it's still not that awesome of playing in it. Or
Speaker 3: you're part of a team. Now it's a different team.
Speaker 3: It's the Fox broadcast team. But he's used to winning
Speaker 3: and losing, and when you get done with the show,
Speaker 3: only you decide if you've won or lost. Hey, how
Speaker 3: did I sound?
Speaker 2: Was that good? This is different with the Raiders, yes see.
Speaker 5: But if his plan was to be part of the
Speaker 5: Raiders organization, right, he's a minority owner, but he wants
Speaker 5: to be involved in the day to day operations. Why
Speaker 5: would you sign a ten year contract at Fox?
Speaker 3: Well, he got that before he got the Raiders situation.
Speaker 3: He didn't know that was going to be approved. Now,
Speaker 3: once again, I don't have any information on that, but
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking. I think Tom realized broadcasting is a
Speaker 3: little bit tougher than he thought. The thing he thought,
Speaker 3: you know what, this is fun. I'm around the game,
Speaker 3: and I've been around a lot of former players and
Speaker 3: former coaches who realize that those who make it look easy,
Speaker 3: that's how they stand out. Those are the stars. It's
Speaker 3: not easy. But when you make like John Madden made
Speaker 3: it seem like, oh man, you just kidding them in
Speaker 3: them mom, But it was so much more than that,
Speaker 3: Like you have to put in your time. Tom can't
Speaker 3: even go and be in these meetings now, Like he
Speaker 3: can't even be there to talk to these people like
Speaker 3: you know, the analysts normally do. So I think Tom
Speaker 3: it was an offer he couldn't refuse. And then I
Speaker 3: think he probably realizes that all right, I kind of
Speaker 3: like it, you know, it's kind of fun, but nothing
Speaker 3: compares to competing, and he's one of the ultimate competitors.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think. And look Andrew Marshawn of
Speaker 3: you know, the media critic, he's the one who brought
Speaker 3: it up and said, hey, he thinks Tom's going to
Speaker 3: be one and done.
Speaker 7: Yeah, pulling if you had this could be a five
Speaker 7: minute poll question. If you had a bet that Tom
Speaker 7: Brady has one job a year.
Speaker 2: From now, which would it be the Raiders?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: The competitive angle, yeah, yeah once once again.
Speaker 3: You know, I was around Drew Brees and when you're
Speaker 3: when you're in the studio, it's sterile. And that's what
Speaker 3: it's really jolting for these former coaches and players.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 2: Watching these games and.
Speaker 3: Then you talk a little bit about them with highlights
Speaker 3: and analysis. But if you go to games, broadcast games,
Speaker 3: there's a whole different energy when you walk in. And
Speaker 3: I thought, okay, maybe that can replicate something that Tom
Speaker 3: had when he played. That feeling and I Man, I
Speaker 3: like this. I think he realized it's a little bit
Speaker 3: tougher the critics. You know, you can't just go out
Speaker 3: there and say I'm gonna throw a touchdown pass. It
Speaker 3: doesn't work that way. Or man, wait till they get
Speaker 3: this analysis. And Tom is working with somebody who is
Speaker 3: trying to help him bring up things that nobody else
Speaker 3: is bringing up, Like he wants to get that he's
Speaker 3: a competitor there. And I was told that he works
Speaker 3: with somebody at Fox and they're trying to give him
Speaker 3: these stats, you know, things that he can work on
Speaker 3: bring up. And then it's like, all right, I see
Speaker 3: what you're doing there, Tom, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 2: Is he more concerned about his look or how he
Speaker 2: sounds in the air, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think his looks are all set, I think,
Speaker 3: but though, yeah, well, I think he's pretty good for
Speaker 3: a little clearly. I think in the next ten years
Speaker 3: he'll look pretty good.
Speaker 4: Still.
Speaker 3: His voice, his voice is something that you know it
Speaker 3: he doesn't have that great voice, But I don't know
Speaker 3: if that would factor in it all. I think this
Speaker 3: is just Tom. Get a coach in there, maybe get
Speaker 3: Mike Rabel in there, and then you find your quarterback,
Speaker 3: and then this is a different way of kind of
Speaker 3: differentiating you from anybody else.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Elway tried to do it, it didn't work out. Now
Speaker 3: others have tried to be part of a franchise, and
Speaker 3: certainly great quarter Hall of Fame court of Dan Marino's
Speaker 3: with the Dolphins. This is something where if you create
Speaker 3: something like this, I think you just put that on
Speaker 3: the resume. It's another thing to put on the resume
Speaker 3: and say, yeah, I did that, did you yeah?
Speaker 7: Pulling as journalist Tom Brady just last night posted a
Speaker 7: picture on vacation. He's at the beach with a football
Speaker 7: in his hand. He goes, man, it's January. I got
Speaker 7: to see how the arm is. See if I can
Speaker 7: still do it like for fun. He's just goofing around.
Speaker 7: But of course he's shirtless and he looks the lighting
Speaker 7: is just perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he could still play, that's the thing. He
Speaker 2: looks lean he will.
Speaker 3: He will be the best quarterback in the building with
Speaker 3: the Raiders next year. Even if they bring in Sam Darnold,
Speaker 3: Tom or bring in Rogers. He Tom would probably think.
Speaker 2: You know, I could probably do this. It's just you know,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't rule it out after watching Lebron last night.
Speaker 3: Now it's different. Lebron's, you know, freakish the dunk that
Speaker 3: he had against the MAVs. But you know, in his mind,
Speaker 3: Tom probably goes, I could still do it. Only forty
Speaker 3: I'm only forty seven. I can see that, all right.
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Speaker 3: Chase Daniel, co host of The Athletics scoof City podcast,
Speaker 3: host of The Chase Daniel Show on YouTube, and co
Speaker 3: host of The Facility on Fox Sports One. Chase joining
Speaker 3: us from his car driving through Los Angeles. How would
Speaker 3: you describe what it's like driving through Los Angeles right now?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm on the ten right now, then getting
Speaker 4: trying to get to work. You know, Fox is about
Speaker 4: six miles from Pacific Palisdays. Also, there's a huge brush
Speaker 4: fire going in Pasadena. But I'm going through downtown LA
Speaker 4: right now, traffic, a ton of smoke, maybe some fog,
Speaker 4: but it smells. I mean I started smelling smoke about
Speaker 4: ten miles south of downtown LA. So just trying to
Speaker 4: get through this. You know, it's a lot worse than
Speaker 4: probably what people think. Pacific Palisades one of the premier
Speaker 4: neighborhoods in LA. I mean, it's just burned to the ground.
Speaker 4: It's going up to Malibu right now. Just a really scary,
Speaker 4: scary thought for a lot of these people. Thirty thousand
Speaker 4: people already evacuated and as zero percent contained. And the
Speaker 4: crazy thing about it, Dan is there's ninety nine mile
Speaker 4: per hour wind gusts. Yeah, and so that's the difficult
Speaker 4: thing here for these firefighters trying to contain it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was live texting with somebody who lives in the
Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades over by Riviera and he was evacuating. You know,
Speaker 3: he said, I you don't even know where to go,
Speaker 3: He said, I don't know what.
Speaker 4: Direction the thing exactly, and there's some road closures around,
Speaker 4: so we're having to do that. But my wife and
Speaker 4: I literally were in Pacific Kyle States Village the whole
Speaker 4: thing is burning and the houses. We were there this
Speaker 4: weekend we did a staycation up from San Diego where
Speaker 4: we lived and just saw it for the first time.
Speaker 4: It was just amazed at how nice it was. I
Speaker 4: think it was built in twenty eighteen and it's just
Speaker 4: completely devastated.
Speaker 3: Right now, I'll make the awkward segue so we do
Speaker 3: talk some football here. More surprised that girod Mayo was
Speaker 3: fired or Antonio Pierce.
Speaker 4: For me, I think it was Drove Mayo. I think
Speaker 4: that was a surprise firing of the cycle. Look, I
Speaker 4: don't agree with it either. You bring him in. What
Speaker 4: did you think was going to happen when you when
Speaker 4: you draft Drink may your your entire team, really your
Speaker 4: offensive weapons, not where you want it to be. Look
Speaker 4: what Belichick did in this last season, and you you know,
Speaker 4: you have this coach and waiting term for him that
Speaker 4: he's had for a while, and you just give up
Speaker 4: on him for one year. Doesn't make a lot of
Speaker 4: suff And you don't even start Drake may at the
Speaker 4: start of the season. I think things could have been different,
Speaker 4: Like they're like, oh, he's not ready, he's not ready. Well,
Speaker 4: he's played exceptionally well shown some growth. This firing to
Speaker 4: me is two things. One I guess that Robert Kraft
Speaker 4: and the Patriots didn't like the progression and the developmental
Speaker 4: plan for Drake May and two like it just screams
Speaker 4: Mike Brable and so it looks like, you know, who
Speaker 4: knows what direction they'll go. I just think he got
Speaker 4: the raw end of the deal in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but then Antonio Pierce gets fired, which I wasn't surprised.
Speaker 3: I thought Tom Brady's fingerprints are going to be all
Speaker 3: over this franchise, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean there's no doubt about it. That was the one.
Speaker 4: You know, you go five and four as an interim
Speaker 4: coach and I think they were four and thirteen or
Speaker 4: something like that. It comes down for me with the
Speaker 4: Raiders and Tom Telesca, which I like Tom. They didn't
Speaker 4: get a quarterback this past year. They could have easily
Speaker 4: had the mo to move up to get one of
Speaker 4: the top six guys. I mean, look at what bo
Speaker 4: Nicks has done, right, they end up with Brock Bauers.
Speaker 4: I understand that, but I mean this definitely has Tom
Speaker 4: eighties singer prints. He's gonna have a say and the
Speaker 4: next echo. So then you look at who who's out
Speaker 4: there for him, it's like, oh, well, Rabel as well.
Speaker 4: So it just seems like Brabel's name keeps coming up everywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, give me the best opening right now.
Speaker 4: You know. For me, I'm a huge Chicago Bears fan,
Speaker 4: and I like what the Chicago Bears have done. I
Speaker 4: like what they have on defense. I like what they
Speaker 4: have on offense. They got to get Caleb playing well.
Speaker 4: But one of the main openings that I think actually
Speaker 4: would attract some people. And you're gonna think I'm crazy
Speaker 4: for saying this as the Patriots job, because you do
Speaker 4: have your franchise quarterback. I would argue that Drake May
Speaker 4: along with Jayden Daniels, are probably the top two quarterbacks
Speaker 4: that have developed throughout the entire year. They have their
Speaker 4: guy in Drake May. I fully believe that, and they
Speaker 4: have a lot of cap space to spend in free agency,
Speaker 4: so it depends on who they get, but I like
Speaker 4: both of those. I'd probably Patriots for me.
Speaker 3: You have to have an offensive minded head coach. Like
Speaker 3: what's more important to a quarterbacks development your offensive coordinator
Speaker 3: or your head coach.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's your head coach. There's no there's
Speaker 4: no more important relationship in my opinion, based on the
Speaker 4: teams I've been in the Hall of Fame coaches I've
Speaker 4: been with, and that relationship between a head coach and
Speaker 4: a quarterback, right. I just have said this always about
Speaker 4: defensive head coaches, and I've been with few. I've been
Speaker 4: with two of them, Brandon Staley and the guy and
Speaker 4: Detroit who got fired Matt Patricia. Everything is the quarterbacks
Speaker 4: fault when it goes wrong, or everything is the offensive fault, right,
Speaker 4: And I think that when you have an offensive minded guy,
Speaker 4: he protects the quarterback a little bit. So when you
Speaker 4: have these young quarterbacks and when stuff doesn't go right,
Speaker 4: I've just seen things go awry when a defensive head
Speaker 4: coach takes over because it's never their fault.
Speaker 3: We're talking to Chase daniel co host of the Athletic
Speaker 3: Scoop City pod cast, also the Chase Daniels Show on YouTube,
Speaker 3: which is great. He breaks down more film probably than anybody,
Speaker 3: and co host of the Facility on Fox Sports One.
Speaker 3: Speaking of breaking down film, I'm curious what if the
Speaker 3: Ravens go back and look at what Lamar did or
Speaker 3: didn't do these previous playoff appearances and you're going against
Speaker 3: a familiar opponent here, what do you think the Ravens
Speaker 3: will do differently or Lamar differently to get them past
Speaker 3: that first round.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, man, and everyone knows. You know.
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson's career playoff record two and four, nine touchdowns,
Speaker 4: nine turnovers in his career in the playoffs a one
Speaker 4: to one ratio. He was at a five to one
Speaker 4: ratio this year. Dan, For me, when you're playing a
Speaker 4: team for the third time and I've done it a
Speaker 4: few times in my career, stuff gets weird, it gets interesting.
Speaker 4: You know them, the Steelers know you. I would love
Speaker 4: to see Lamar get out of the pocket early in
Speaker 4: the game and make them to his legs. And I
Speaker 4: know you're like Chase, you ran for almost eight hundred
Speaker 4: nine hundred yards. I get that. But I think when
Speaker 4: you get into a game where you know each other,
Speaker 4: they're going to have a great plan defensively. The Steelers are.
Speaker 4: I think if Lamar uses his legs early, I think
Speaker 4: it's going to get them off Kelter and then it'll
Speaker 4: open up the past game. And then obviously you know
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry over nineteen hundred yards rushing. I think that
Speaker 4: is a big part of their deal, is like control
Speaker 4: the football, play in smash mouth football, you know how
Speaker 4: this is in the AFC North. I think this game
Speaker 4: will actually be closer than people think. I know, the
Speaker 4: Ravens are playing really well as a way, and the
Speaker 4: Steelers obviously four game losing streak, but I think this
Speaker 4: will be close.
Speaker 10: Chase.
Speaker 3: There's a lot on the line here, and some of
Speaker 3: it is just the perception. Some of it could mean changes.
Speaker 3: John Harball hasn't been successful in the postseason recently. Mike
Speaker 3: Tomlin hasn't been successful recently. Lamar hasn't been successful recently.
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson's trying to hold on. I mean, there's a
Speaker 3: whole lot of storylines in this game.
Speaker 4: I mean, it really is, and I think the biggest
Speaker 4: one and what we've been talking and that was the
Speaker 4: biggest proponent when when Russell Wilson was six and one,
Speaker 4: I said, hey, let's resign him right now, you know,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden he's like, okay, you know,
Speaker 4: zero to four, a couple of big red zone turnovers.
Speaker 4: As of late, you can't point the finger right at him.
Speaker 4: I think that's a big storyline. How does Russ play?
Speaker 4: If Russ doesn't play well, do they look behind door
Speaker 4: number two? This year for the quarterback. We had a
Speaker 4: conversation on the Fox Show of the facility. Hey is
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin on the hot seat and I was like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: And the more you think about well, I mean, like,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes this might be good for a change.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he's not one of the best
Speaker 4: coaches out there, but it could be time for a change.
Speaker 4: And then everyone knows Lamar thing. I think that's easily
Speaker 4: the number one storyline in this game is like, Lamar,
Speaker 4: you've put up Really you could be an MVP again
Speaker 4: this year. You could be a three time MVP, although
Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen will win it. You could be
Speaker 4: an if you go and you go two and five
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, what is your legacy? Like, I think
Speaker 4: that's a great game for storylines. You hit them all man, all.
Speaker 3: Right, before I let you go, give me the surprise
Speaker 3: this weekend. There's gonna be a road team that's well,
Speaker 3: maybe even a home team like the Rams against the Vikings.
Speaker 2: But you got a surprise for me.
Speaker 4: I look I would not want to go into Tampa
Speaker 4: and play the Bucks offense and Liam Calm and what
Speaker 4: they're doing, because they are playing really well. I think
Speaker 4: a team that can do it though, is Jade and
Speaker 4: Daniels and the Washington Commanders, even a rookie on the road.
Speaker 4: We all know what Philly did last year. Layden egg
Speaker 4: in Tampa. It's just a weird place to play in
Speaker 4: the playoffs. But Baker's having the best year of his career.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if dan Quinn has some good
Speaker 4: defensive minded strategies to help slow down Baker, and then
Speaker 4: I think Jayden really balls out with his legs. I
Speaker 4: think zach Ertz sketches a touchdown. I think they might
Speaker 4: win on the road.
Speaker 3: More importantly, safe travels this morning. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon, Chase. Thanks for having me
Speaker 3: on Dan, Chase, Daniel.
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Speaker 3: Mike Florio is joining us on loan from Pro Football Talk.
Speaker 3: Always great to talk to Mike, and you can see
Speaker 3: him with Chris Simms Monday through Friday, preceding this show
Speaker 3: on Peacock. Why did the Raiders wait a day to
Speaker 3: fire Antonio Pierce?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, first of all, Dan, there's no happy
Speaker 6: New Year if it's not too late to say happy
Speaker 6: to New Year too much of all? Yes, okay, that's fine,
Speaker 6: Happy New Year anyway. I mean, what's the alternative? Unhappy
Speaker 6: New Year?
Speaker 10: Is that? What happens?
Speaker 2: How about just hi Mike? How are you hi?
Speaker 6: Hi?
Speaker 4: Dan?
Speaker 6: Unless you are going to jump into the chase for
Speaker 6: Mike Vrabel, which maybe the Raiders will. You can't have
Speaker 6: face to face interviews with coordinators from other teams until
Speaker 6: January twenty, so you don't have to make a snap
Speaker 6: decision right away. But you'd like to think, as Jerry
Speaker 6: Jones so eloquently said last week, going into the Week
Speaker 6: eighteen game against the Commanders, the hey is in the
Speaker 6: barn on what you're going to do about your coach.
Speaker 6: The Patriots knew why wait now, Look, there's an element
Speaker 6: of awkwardness that creeps in when you're firing the guy
Speaker 6: still in the locker room after the regular season finale.
Speaker 6: But once you know what you're going to do, any
Speaker 6: delay in implementing it runs the risk that someone else
Speaker 6: is going to find out and it's going to get
Speaker 6: out there, So you know, whether it's Mark Davis wanted
Speaker 6: to talk to Tom Brady who was working on Sunday
Speaker 6: and not at the game and not available for Davis
Speaker 6: to cauc us with.
Speaker 10: Whatever the case may be.
Speaker 6: One day isn't a huge thing in the grand scheme
Speaker 6: of things, because if you're looking for coordinators, you've got
Speaker 6: a couple more weeks before you can even sit down
Speaker 6: and talk to them.
Speaker 3: I talked to somebody yesterday I trust in the business,
Speaker 3: and we were talking about a variety of things, including
Speaker 3: Brady's fingerprints all over the Raiders' situation here, and I said,
Speaker 3: I thought Antonio Pierce was going to be fired, So
Speaker 3: now you're the Mike Rabel situation, Rabel Brady relationship. And
Speaker 3: so this person said to me, I could see a
Speaker 3: scenario where Vrabel doesn't go to the Patriots because of
Speaker 3: his allegiance to Bill Belichick and what the Crafts did
Speaker 3: to Belichick out the door. I don't know if he
Speaker 3: would do that. You know, it seems like he's the
Speaker 3: obvious guy there. But can Brady convince Brabel to go
Speaker 3: to the Raiders.
Speaker 10: Well, that's where.
Speaker 6: It would become extremely interesting, interesting if Brady would use
Speaker 6: the way the Patriots treated Belichick, even though it kind
Speaker 6: of fell apart for Brady and Belichick near the end,
Speaker 6: but that's a way to convince Rabel not to go
Speaker 6: back there. Rabel's going to do his own thing. Rabel's
Speaker 6: going to do what's right for him. And he's got
Speaker 6: that red jacket with the crest on it that makes
Speaker 6: him a member of the Patriots Hall of Fame. It's
Speaker 6: going to be tough to pull him away from New England.
Speaker 6: But he's the one guy right now who is going
Speaker 6: to have multiple opportunities interviewing with the Bears today. Saints
Speaker 6: want to talk to him, Jets have talked to him,
Speaker 6: Raiders presumably will want to It's everybody with the Jaguars
Speaker 6: so far have been linked to him in one way,
Speaker 6: shape or four.
Speaker 10: And at the end of the day, he'll know in
Speaker 10: his heart whether he wants.
Speaker 6: To go to New England despite the things that happened
Speaker 6: with Belichick, and I could see Rabel compartmentalizing it. I
Speaker 6: could see Rabel smoothing things over with Bill. If Bill's
Speaker 6: noses out to joint. How dare you take that job
Speaker 6: and go to New England when I was there all
Speaker 6: those years? And you know, Rabel's got He's got a
Speaker 6: lot of parcels in him where he'll make his point
Speaker 6: in a very blunt way, but it's also kind of
Speaker 6: a charming and funny way, and he's good with people
Speaker 6: in that respect. And I think that he'll manage Belichick
Speaker 6: and he'll go where he feels like he should go.
Speaker 6: And it just seems like a no brainer for him
Speaker 6: to go to New England. But how many times do
Speaker 6: we see no brainers that just blow up and go
Speaker 6: a different direction.
Speaker 3: How do you think Brady like after he does the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? Do you think Tom Brady's won and done
Speaker 3: as a broadcaster.
Speaker 6: I think that Tom Brady and I made this point
Speaker 6: last week. Tom Brady either has no self awareness whatsoever
Speaker 6: to realize the various landmindes and conflicts of interest, and
Speaker 6: it's just a bad look him trying to do two
Speaker 6: jobs that do not mesh. And Miles Simmons of PFT
Speaker 6: put it best when this was all first percolating. He
Speaker 6: wants to be the best at everything he does. It's
Speaker 6: impossible to be the best possible broadcaster you can be
Speaker 6: and the best possible part owner of a team.
Speaker 10: You can be.
Speaker 6: And he's either completely oblivious to that or he is
Speaker 6: hyper aware of the fact that he can do whatever
Speaker 6: the hell he wants, and he's going to do whatever.
Speaker 10: He wants to do.
Speaker 6: But I think at some point he's going to realize
Speaker 6: not being able to go to the games, not being
Speaker 6: involved with the team in the regular season as involved
Speaker 6: as he'd like to be, because he has another job
Speaker 6: that keeps him occupied on Sundays in other cities covering
Speaker 6: other games. I think at some point he's going to
Speaker 6: realize on his own that I shouldn't do both. I
Speaker 6: can't do both. I want the competitive juices. I want
Speaker 6: to be in the fray. I want to be with
Speaker 6: the Raiders full time. And I think that there are
Speaker 6: people in the league.
Speaker 10: Who are quietly hoping that's the way it goes.
Speaker 2: Will the Lions lose both their coordinators it?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, Ben Johnson is only gonna leave if
Speaker 6: he feels like it's the right opportunity. Alignment with the
Speaker 6: front office is one of his top factors, and he's
Speaker 6: learned from the mistakes of others where that window opens
Speaker 6: to be a head coach, you jump through it, and
Speaker 6: you land in a briar patch and two three years
Speaker 6: later you're out of a job, and you'll wish you
Speaker 6: hadn't left. And I also think, and I heard this
Speaker 6: this weekend, he'd much rather be the mad scientist who
Speaker 6: is designing all these different crazy trick plays and exploiting
Speaker 6: defensive weaknesses than the guy who's at the center of attention,
Speaker 6: the guy who gets all the pressure, the guy whose
Speaker 6: address gets posted online and people show up at his house.
Speaker 6: And Dan Campbell goes through a lot. Now he makes
Speaker 6: a lot more money, but four or five million a
Speaker 6: year for an offensive coordinator's not bad life. And you
Speaker 6: get to do what you want to do, and you
Speaker 6: don't have to do with all the hassles of being.
Speaker 10: A head coach.
Speaker 6: And he seems to be just sensitive to the fact
Speaker 6: that life changes dramatically when you become a head coach.
Speaker 10: It's got to be the right spot.
Speaker 6: And I would not rule him out going back to
Speaker 6: Detroit and just waiting and waiting and waiting for the
Speaker 6: perfect opportunity.
Speaker 3: Talking to Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk Live co host
Speaker 3: also contributor to Football Night in America, we just played
Speaker 3: our weekly game of in or out. I'm sure you've
Speaker 3: heard of it. The first pick of the NFL Draft
Speaker 3: will not be a quarterback. Are you in or out?
Speaker 6: I'll say I'm out because if the Titans decide they
Speaker 6: want a quarterback, they'll take one, and if they don't,
Speaker 6: I think they should trade the pick to a team
Speaker 6: that really falls in love with one of these quarterbacks. Now,
Speaker 6: it's still early in the process, and whatever teams have
Speaker 6: put together by way of preliminary draft boards that goes
Speaker 6: out the window once the coaches aren't coaching anymore and
Speaker 6: they get involved in the scouting process and their opinions
Speaker 6: begin to skew things. So there's a lot of work
Speaker 6: still left to be done. But just from the standpoint
Speaker 6: of teams that need quarterbacks, you got teams that have
Speaker 6: franchise quarterbacks and teams that don't, and the teams that
Speaker 6: don't are.
Speaker 10: Trying to get one.
Speaker 6: And the Raiders are a team that could maybe trade
Speaker 6: up with the Titans. You know, there are teams out
Speaker 6: there that I think if it's not the Titans taking
Speaker 6: a quarterback, they'll trade the pick to a team that
Speaker 6: wants one. Because the Titans could then parlay that into
Speaker 6: a bunch of other picks that could address other needs.
Speaker 3: If Jared Goff wins Super Bowl MVP, He's going to
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: Are you in or out?
Speaker 6: I'd have to take a close to look at his
Speaker 6: entire career. It would be his second Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 6: You know, the Rams basically attaching a first round pick
Speaker 6: to get him off their.
Speaker 10: Books is not a good look.
Speaker 6: I don't know that it's enough to get to the
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame, but it puts him on track for
Speaker 6: something that three years ago we never would have dreamed possible,
Speaker 6: because I mean, this never gets described this way. But
Speaker 6: the Rams gave up an extra first round pick, They
Speaker 6: gave a one and a three for Stafford, and they
Speaker 6: attached the first round pick to Golf to get his contract.
Speaker 10: Oh wait, that's how far he had fallen in the
Speaker 10: eyes of Sean McVay.
Speaker 6: And it might have been the best thing that ever
Speaker 6: happened to him because it sparked this resurgence where, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, I'd never thought of that, but I still
Speaker 6: think he'd have more work to do.
Speaker 2: Rank Final one.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers will not be a player or a broadcaster
Speaker 3: slash analyst next season?
Speaker 2: Are you in around?
Speaker 10: Well?
Speaker 6: I think if he retires, he won't be a broadcaster.
Speaker 6: He said he'll walk off into the sunset. But I
Speaker 6: also can't imagine him fading away from relevance and keeping
Speaker 6: his mouth shut. I am out on him not being
Speaker 6: a player, though. I think he'll find a spot next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do you think he will?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been watching Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh makes a
Speaker 6: lot of sense. And Sims made a point today this
Speaker 6: guy Chad Brinker that nobody heard of until yesterday, who
Speaker 6: somehow arrived in Tennessee two years ago and is now
Speaker 6: completely in charge of the operation. Nashville is a place
Speaker 6: where Rogers has a house. The Titans need a quarterback.
Speaker 6: Here's the key. Brinker was with the Packers from twenty
Speaker 6: ten through twenty twenty two in the front office. And
Speaker 6: we know how Rogers feels about the Green Bay front office.
Speaker 6: And he either loves Chad Brinker or he hates Chad Breaker.
Speaker 10: There is no in between with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6: So you may scratch Tennessee off the list right now
Speaker 6: if he doesn't like Chad Brinker. But I can see
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin finding a way to join
Speaker 6: forces for one season, and man, that would be exciting.
Speaker 3: The MVP conversation is always fascinating. And you have a
Speaker 3: guy that if this was the Academy Awards, it's Josh
Speaker 3: Allen's turn, they would probably say whereas Lamar Jackson probably
Speaker 3: had his best performance. But you get voter fatigue, You
Speaker 3: get voters who go, yeah, but he doesn't do well
Speaker 3: in the like people.
Speaker 2: Have their own criteria here.
Speaker 3: What do you think this comes down to as to
Speaker 3: why this quarterback will win the MVP?
Speaker 6: Well, and I said this the other day, trust your
Speaker 6: gut if you're a voter, because what we do as
Speaker 6: humans we find objective statistics and facts to support whatever
Speaker 6: it is our gut is telling us to do. Anyway,
Speaker 6: watch Josh Allen, watch Lamar Jackson. Look at the season
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson had in comparison to the last year.
Speaker 10: When he was the MVP.
Speaker 6: And I know that other guys had less seasons than that,
Speaker 6: and guys had better seasons than I get.
Speaker 10: All that, but you had to trust your gut. Who
Speaker 10: is the MVP.
Speaker 6: And you know the problem with this award, Dan and
Speaker 6: I say, this is one of the voters fully cognitive
Speaker 6: in the fact that they may take the award away
Speaker 6: or they vote away, and if they do, I don't care.
Speaker 6: What the hell is an MVP, Like, what does it mean?
Speaker 6: I heard Chris Fowler talking about it during the game
Speaker 6: on Saturday.
Speaker 10: Most valuable to your team? Well, is that what it is?
Speaker 6: I mean, it's an age old debate in sports, most
Speaker 6: valuable to If it's the most valuable player to the league,
Speaker 6: it's Patrick Mahomes every year until he retires, because there
Speaker 6: is no one bringing value to the sport like him.
Speaker 6: So it's just a crazy thing. And I just tell people,
Speaker 6: whatever your gut feeling is, go with it, because if
Speaker 6: you start coming up with objective justifications, all you doing
Speaker 6: is because we can find any stat to support whatever
Speaker 6: it is we want to do.
Speaker 2: Wow, but don't say that you don't want your vote.
Speaker 2: They can take it away.
Speaker 6: Oh well, let me tell you something. I've spent about
Speaker 6: this week. And this is a busy week, and I
Speaker 6: know we're covering sports. I've had real jobs. Real jobs suck.
Speaker 6: I'm not complaining about my job, but to throw another
Speaker 6: ten hours of work between the All Pro votes and
Speaker 6: the awards ballots on top of everything else, for the
Speaker 6: grand total salary of zero dollars in zero cents. You
Speaker 6: get to a point where you're like, you know what,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be so upset if they.
Speaker 10: Took my vote away.
Speaker 3: I'll take your vote, okay, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: the commissioner will let me have it.
Speaker 10: Trust me, the commissioner has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 10: I would not if the commissioner, how did you have
Speaker 10: the vote? Yeah, I wouldn't have the vote.
Speaker 2: He would vote against you getting a vote.
Speaker 10: He would he would blackball me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well you can ship me your your
Speaker 3: m v P vote.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Mike, thank you.
Speaker 4: D's talking.
Speaker 2: That's Mike Glorial. Happy new year of mine.