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We pointed out so much 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: stuff that we didn't even talk about, the narratives that 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: they put forth when they show these videos of how 20 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: they intentionally try to find some negative thing about the person. Right. 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh, we didn't touch on that thing, but there. 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Was so much other stuff and I think, you know, 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: as we reflect on episodes, like, there's always after we 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: usually after we end the episode, there's usually like something like, 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: oh shit, we forgot to mention it in this episode, 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: Like I feel like we touched on so many points 27 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: that people might bear off. I think our audience is 28 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: aware of the negative stereotypes that they put out right, 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: so I think we're okay with not mentioning that. But 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: it just goes to how much of this gets put out. 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to her Space podcast dedicated to uplifting women like you. 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: We're your hosts doctor Dominique Broussard, a college professor and psychologist. 33 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: And Terry Lomax, a techie and a motivational speaker. 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: In a world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, 35 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: please join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything 36 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: from fibroids to fake friends, and create a safe space 37 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: where black women can. 38 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: Just be Hey, lady, it's Terry here from the Hurstpace podcast, 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: and I have a question for you. Do you want 40 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: to start your own podcast? Have you been thinking to yourself, 41 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 2: you know what, I want to start a podcast, but 42 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: you just haven't taken the leap. If that's you. I 43 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: got you. I'm hosting a free podcasting masterclass where I'm 44 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: going to teach you how to create your own podcasts 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: from start to finish. So visit Terrylomax dot com and 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: click on the pink link in the middle of your 47 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: screen and register for my free podcasting masterclass. 48 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Until the Lions have their own historians, the history of 49 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: the hunt will always glorify the hunter. And that quote 50 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: comes to us from Chinua Achebe, author of Things Fall 51 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: Apart t When you hear that quote, for me, it 52 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: really speaks volumes about our narrative. And I can think 53 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: about so many things that I know we're going to 54 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: dive into today, But what comes up for you when 55 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you hear that. 56 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Well and dom, I think that is such a powerful quote, 57 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: and it makes me think about that saying where there 58 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: are three sides to a story, your story, my story, 59 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: and the truth right, and just thinking about how it 60 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: really does depend on who is telling the narrative based 61 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: on what perspective you get. So, I mean, it makes 62 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: me think about you being in a place right, you 63 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: being let's say at a concert and you're down on 64 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: the floor level and you're attending the concert and you 65 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: see someone else's like in those bleeds, You're going to 66 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: have different perspectives even if you're at the same event. 67 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: So for me, it just makes it so much more 68 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: important for us to be mindful of who is telling 69 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: our narrative and what is their advantage point? 70 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Right? 71 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: What are their intentions and all that stuff we're going 72 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: to dive into today. But I think this quote is 73 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: so powerful. What about you don what comes up for you? Yeah? 74 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: I think you know, just truly thinking about who owns 75 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: the story, right, So if we as a people are 76 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: not telling our stories, then our perspective is going to 77 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: be lost. And again, like you mentioned, like what is 78 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: the intention behind those who are telling our stories not 79 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: from our perspective? 80 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: Like are you telling the story from Christopher Columbus's perspective 81 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: or the indigenous people who were already on the land 82 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: that he air quotes discovered, you know what I mean? 83 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: Like cause depending on who you talk to, you're gonna 84 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: have a very different story. And it makes me think 85 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: about what we talked about down on our episode with 86 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: Rachel where we talked about we talked about how oftentimes 87 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: white people will say, oh, they brought slaves over on 88 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: the ship. No, no, no, they brought doctors and teachers, 89 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: and you know, they brought people who were established and 90 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: living their lives, you know, and they were professionals and 91 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: they had their own way of living. But it all 92 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: depends on who is telling the story. So that takes 93 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: us right into our topic of the day time when 94 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: we talk about media and defining media and what that means. 95 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, when we were talking 96 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 2: about okay, we want to have a conversation about media, 97 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: what does that even mean? What is media? Right? And 98 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: so we kind of look that up and we see 99 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: that media is really the main means of mass communication. 100 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: So broadcasting, publishing, and the internet, right, regard it collectively. 101 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: So you think about social media, you think about news media, advertisements, newspapers, film, 102 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: There are so many ways in which we are consuming media, 103 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: and of course we're often influenced by the media that 104 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: we consume, right, because there's usually a message or some 105 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: type of reinforcement that we are getting from the media 106 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: that we consume. It's really powerful stuff too. Media can 107 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: be very powerful. 108 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: It really truly, can you know. I think about my 109 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: day to day and how heavy the influences that media 110 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: plays right. So I generally watch the news maybe once 111 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to day, but then I also read the news through 112 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: like online print articles. But then depending on how much 113 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: time I have throughout the course of my day, I 114 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: may get on Twitter and read articles that someone shared 115 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: via Twitter. And then I think about conversations that I 116 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: have with people and the information that they're passing along 117 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: to me that they received from somewhere. And so media 118 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: truly has an influence on us, that's right. And so 119 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: TI when we think about like the influence that media 120 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: really has, one of the terms that I know comes 121 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: up is this concept of propaganda. And so do you 122 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: want to tell us a little bit about, like because 123 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: you did the research for us and like really trying 124 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: to understand what is propaganda and where did it come 125 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: from and how is it used? 126 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: Yes, Dom, so I will say when I researched proper 127 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: and the United States specifically, it talked about how you 128 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: propaganda in the US is spread by both government and 129 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: media entities, and propaganda's information, ideas or rumors deliberately spread 130 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: widely to influence opinions, usually to preserve the self interest 131 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: of a nation. And I think about when I was 132 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: first introduced to this concept of propaganda. And I remember 133 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: hearing this. Many of you probably remember this as well. Lady, 134 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: I remember hearing about propaganda when I was in school 135 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: and we learned about the Holocaust, and there was so 136 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: much that we learned about. We took a significant amount 137 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: of the year reading books and learning about Ann Frank 138 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: and things like that. But what I remember is I 139 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: just thought how powerful this medium is for you to 140 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: tell a lie in such a compelling way, and to 141 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: use these different platforms to perpetuate a lie that people 142 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: buy in and they begin to believe it. And then 143 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: when I was researching on the Holocaust Encyclopedia, it talked 144 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: about how the Nazis, it felt, actively used propaganda to 145 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: win the support of millions, okay millions of Germans in 146 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: a democracy and later in a dictatorship, and they used 147 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: that to facilitate persecution, war and ultimately genocide. I mean, 148 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: those are major moments in life. When you think about persecution, 149 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 2: war and a genocide of a people like to get 150 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: people to buy into that, that's so major. And so 151 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: you know, when you think about stereotypes and images found 152 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: in Nazi propaganda, they weren't new. It was already familiar 153 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: to their intended audience. And so it's just powerful stuff 154 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: that I think we have to be mindful of. And 155 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: so that's why I'm really excited that we're talking about 156 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: this today, because we'll talk about this a little later. 157 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: There was a moment recently where I had to check 158 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: myself because I consumed a certain media and I was like, 159 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: oh wow, my perspective was shifted. And when I began 160 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: to ask critical questions and do my own research, I 161 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: was like, oh wait, wait, wait, this was a one 162 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: sided story. 163 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: Right. 164 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: So when you think about the US and propaganda World 165 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: War One, right, first large scale use of propaganda about 166 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: the US government, and they used you know, the government 167 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: enlisted the help of citizens and children to help promote 168 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: war bonds and stamps to stimulate the economy. 169 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: Right. 170 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: You think about the Cold War. You can look up 171 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: propaganda they used for the Cold War, and also the 172 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: War on drugs, right, the War on terrorism, right, the 173 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: Iraqi War, all that stuff. You think about how the 174 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: media has an agenda and they're pushing that agenda by 175 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: way of propaganda through film, through news, through social media, 176 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: through all of these various mediums. And so we really 177 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: have to be mindful of what we are consuming. And 178 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: we'll dive into that in a bit, But dom I 179 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: want to ask you, what has your relationship been like 180 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: with media or even propaganda over the years, and have 181 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: you noticed anything and your upbringing as it relates to media. 182 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things that you were saying, 183 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: like as you were pointing out like how propaganda was 184 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: used by the Nazis but then also used in the US, 185 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: and the examples that you found in the research mostly 186 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: centered on things that happened to white identify people right 187 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: until you got to the examples of the War on drugs. 188 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: And so for me, it just there's so many layers 189 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: to this, right, I think that that in and of 190 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:29,359 Speaker 1: itself is part of this narrative that's not really ours. 191 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: As you were talking, I immediately started thinking about how 192 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: recently the companies that produce aunt Jemima syrup and Uncle 193 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Ben's Rights, how those are everyday products, Like I literally 194 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: have some Uncle Ben's Rights sitting in my pantry right now, 195 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: And if I hadn't switched to like really liking maple syrup, 196 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: I probably would have some an Jebima syrup in my 197 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: pantry as well, but I just think about those little 198 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: everyday products that we use and how that is propaganda 199 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: as well, how that shapes our image, right, because if 200 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: we think about the image of Uncle Ben and where 201 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: that came from, and we think about the image of 202 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: aunt Jemima and where that came from, and when we 203 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: see that on our syrup and our rights, and it's 204 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: something that we use every day. So there are like 205 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: even small subtle ways in which our narrative is being 206 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: fed to us that we aren't necessarily aware of all 207 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: the time. 208 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: And Dom, I know you're going to dive into this shortly, 209 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: but I will say when I was doing my research, 210 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 2: you made a good point. I noticed that from what 211 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: I saw, right, Because I didn't like do an extensive 212 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: research study, I just kind of did some googling, looked 213 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: at a few articles, read over them, and a lot 214 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 2: of the propaganda articles were about, like you said, mostly 215 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: impacting white people. Know that the propaganda when it comes 216 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: to people of color, minorities, and black people specifically, it 217 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: is alive and well, but they didn't really talk about that, right. 218 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 2: You have to go to certain sources to see where 219 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: are they going to talk about the things that relate 220 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: to our narrative because it's totally going on. So I'm 221 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: going to pass the night to you down because I 222 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: know you're going to dive in a bit deeper on 223 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: how propaganda is used for our community specifically. 224 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: Yes, So I'm teaching a class this semester and one 225 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: of the books that the students are reading is post 226 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Traumatic Slave Syndrome. 227 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: But I have to join the group. 228 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: And one of the things that she points out in 229 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: the book, she talks about how media the influence of media, 230 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: But the example that she specifically cites is the LA 231 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Riots from nineteen ninety two, after we saw on TV 232 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: Rodney King being beaten by LAPD and outside of the 233 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: civil rights movement, that was probably the next time that 234 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: we are actually seeing a black man being brutalized by 235 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: the police. Right now, when we think about that, and 236 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: I want us to just pause for a moment and 237 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: think about the images that come to our mind when 238 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: we think about what we remember seeing about the LA Riots, 239 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: and even right now, Netflix has two documentaries on the 240 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: LA Riots. I watch both of them, and I can 241 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: guarantee you what I'm about to share was not mentioned. Okay, 242 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: what doctor Joy Degruz pointed out, was that over fifty 243 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: percent of the people who were writing and looting were 244 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: of Latino descent, and the other half was a mix 245 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: of Asian, White and African American. Now, what I can 246 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: say from what I saw in those documentaries and from 247 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: what I can recall being a child watching the news, 248 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: all of the images were about our people, black folks 249 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: rioting and looting. 250 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Hell. 251 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I think about the images after Hurricane Katrina. Now that 252 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: was one of the first times in our history that 253 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: we truly got to see how the role a natural 254 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: disaster can play depending upon your class, your socioeconomic status. Right. 255 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: But when you think about the images that were shown 256 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: in the medium, when most people can conjure up in 257 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: their minds, are images of black folks quote unquote looting, right, 258 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: and then this narrative of white folks searching for resources 259 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: child Right. And so when you think about what seeing 260 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: that does for you, how does that shape your image 261 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: of black folks in America? Is that's what you see 262 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: on the news. If we go back to the example 263 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: you gave about the propaganda in terms of the war 264 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: on drugs, right, I mean, we know the reality is 265 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: that these drugs were intentionally implanted into the black community, right, yes, yep, 266 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: And so we know that, but what's the narrative? 267 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: What's the narrative? Really quick? It makes me think about 268 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: how black people were demonized, criminalized, ostracized during that time 269 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: for these drugs that were planted in our communities, right, lady, 270 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: research that if you're not familiar. And then I think 271 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: about this opioid crisis, and now all of a sudden, 272 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: the people that are again drugs or drugs, right, the 273 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: people that are suffering from addiction, the people that are 274 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: impacted by the opioid crisis are more white people than 275 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: black people, right. And now they're talking about rehabilitation, they're 276 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: talking about offering resources for these folks. And my thing 277 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 2: is just like, the discrepancies are so disgusting at times 278 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: with the way that you know, black people are portrayed 279 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: in media opposed to white people or other folks. And 280 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: so for me, it's like, just how the plane field 281 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: be even right? If you're gonna be shitty to people 282 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: and just lie and paint these narratives, do it for everyone, 283 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: or just be fair, because when you look at the discrepancies, 284 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: it's just so blatant and It makes me think about how, 285 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: like you were saying, how does this impact your view 286 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: on certain people? Because whether you know it or not, 287 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: we are being programmed right when we consume the media, 288 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: we are being programmed. Unless we're you know, thinking critically, 289 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: we're asking ourselves these questions. But you just flip on 290 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: the news and you're like, you know, you become this 291 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 2: black person. It's like, damn black people always doing this 292 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Black people, and it's like that's what we're shown. 293 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: Right. 294 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: There are black millionaires and billionaires in this world who 295 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: are successful, who are you know, just living right? I mean, 296 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: they're doing their thing, but they only show us these 297 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 2: in some cases outliers or anomalies or or bad cases, 298 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: and then that perpetuates the stereotypes that black people have 299 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: often had, right, So you're spot on with that, dumb yes, think. 300 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: About it, right, Like you you brought up a real 301 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: one right there with that, the comparison of the opioid 302 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: epidemic versus the crack epidemic, right, Like, just think about that, 303 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: Like what that narrative is really telling us? You know, 304 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: you think about they would call kids who were born 305 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: in the late eighties and the nineties crack babies, right, 306 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: And so are we calling the kids that are born 307 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: out of this opioid epidemic coke babies? Are we calling 308 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: them opioid babies? And I know that disparaging of names 309 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: of any kind are wrong, but that goes back to 310 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: what you were saying about even in the playing field, right, 311 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: if we're going to use disparaging names, everybody should get 312 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: the disparaging name, right. And that brings me to thinking 313 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: about modern day imagery around the killing of black folks, right, 314 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: And I think about how many times you turn on 315 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: the news, or you're scrolling through your social media feed, 316 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: or you're turning on the news and you're seeing imagery 317 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: video of black people being murdered by the police, And 318 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: what message is that sending to us. There's this first 319 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: piece of the trauma that it causes us as black 320 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: folks to constantly have this image, this message of our 321 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: lives do not matter, hence Black Lives Matter movement, right. 322 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: But then there's also this piece of psychological control because 323 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: if I'm watching this, the message that I get is 324 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: that I need to be on my best behavior when 325 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm engaging with the police, otherwise I could lose my life. 326 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: That's psychological control. And it goes back to Jim Crow 327 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: era and slavery, you know, thinking about how on the plantation, 328 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: the white slave owner when one of the enslaved people 329 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: would quote unquote commit a crime, they would bring that 330 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: person out in front of everyone and beat them, or 331 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: they would do things like rape the women in front 332 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: of their husbands to inflict this psychological control. Then we 333 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: moved to the Jim Crow era with lynchings to again 334 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: send the message black folks, you step out of line, 335 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: this is what's gonna happen to you. And stepping out 336 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: of line means doing anything that we as white folks 337 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: don't like. So in some instances, just our mere existence. 338 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: I was about to say that not anything that you 339 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: don't like though, just existing, just showing up with your 340 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: black face and your black body is like boom, you're 341 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 2: a victim, you know, right, Yes, you hit the nail head. 342 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: Like the dress you're wearing today, So you gotta go. Mm. 343 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: That type of psychological control, controlling the narrative. What message 344 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: is that sending to us? That's sending to us again 345 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: one that we need to be that we're supposed to 346 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: be controlled. Right, But continuing to send the message that 347 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: we are not worthy and if we're being real, lynchings 348 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: still happen today. 349 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: No, really, Tom, I thought they were suicide. That's what 350 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: the news said, right right. 351 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: Oh, that narrative, the narrative one of Okay, so the 352 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: police know that these are lynching, but they will still 353 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: report it as suicides. Intentionally reported as suicides. 354 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: Why is that? Why do you believe they do that. 355 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: We'll think about it. We're in the Year of Our 356 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty. Aren't we supposed to be progressive in 357 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: a post racial society? If we put out this message 358 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: what you thought was a lynching, was it actually a suicide? 359 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: And we can gaslight you? 360 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 361 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: So now you're second guessing yourself because that's what gaslighting 362 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: causes you to do. 363 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 2: That's right. 364 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: You recognize what's real, you call it out, and then 365 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: you're told, no, that's not what you saw. 366 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: You're crazy. 367 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: What you saw something else exactly. Now you start to 368 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: question your every movement and you start to wonder, well, 369 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: I guess that person might be right. So now they 370 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: can continue their psychological control by pushing other narratives on 371 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: you as well, and not just on you, but to 372 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: everyone else. So now everyone else, every other non black 373 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: person who gets this narrative starts to believe that narrative. 374 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: It's deep. Tone cool child, Yeah, it's deep, And I 375 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: think that taking a moment too. Like I posted something 376 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: on my page this week, oh gosh, after you know, 377 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: seeing that Chedwick Bothman passed away that which was so 378 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: sad for I know many folks, especially in the black community, 379 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: because of what he represented, and it was just really tough. 380 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 2: So I posted something about, you know, holding space for 381 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: ourselves to be honest and realize this is a really 382 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: fucking tough time that we are going through as a people, 383 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 2: especially Black people, because of the many layers. Right, I 384 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: think about what I'm going through and this you know 385 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: in the Bay 're in San Francisco specifically, but us 386 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 2: in the Bay Area with you know, you got COVID. 387 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 2: We still haven't even opened up, y'all. Okay, I haven't been, 388 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: And I know this is the first world problem, but 389 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I haven't been to the nail shop 390 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: y'all since March. All right, Like it's still closed because 391 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: cases are rising. Now I think about the wildfires and 392 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: our air quality being bad. So now taking a walk 393 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: going outside. That's taking a toll on you. You know, we're 394 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: already working from home. Any factor in the racial injustice 395 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: and seeing black people. I saw something else on social 396 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: media before we tuned in, and I just had to 397 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: scroll down because I literally it's hard. One. I don't 398 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: watch the videos. That's just already a no no. We 399 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: talked about that the last time. I think we did 400 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: an episode about we talked about George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. 401 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: So I definitely don't watch the videos. But just seeing that, 402 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: I think it was in LA another black man wasn't 403 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: murdered by police, and I was like, oh, okay, I can't. 404 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: I don't have the mental bandwidth to do this. You know, 405 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: I have to figure out what I need to do 406 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: for my mental health already. So you think about all 407 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: that we're going through. I think holding space for yourself 408 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: and realizing it's okay to cry. You know, some people 409 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: feel numb right now. This is one hell of a year, 410 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 2: and I often say this to myself, like it's an 411 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: uncomfortable but necessary time because I do believe that the 412 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: things that are happening in the world right now, they're 413 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 2: happening for a greater purpose. I may not understand it 414 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: right now, but I think that, you know, they're bringing 415 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: awareness to certain things that have been sort of under 416 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: the surface for so long. 417 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 3: Right. 418 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we may not understand why everything's happening, but I 419 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: think remaining hopeful while also giving ourselves the permission to 420 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: feel all these emotions is so key because this is 421 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 2: a lot dumb. 422 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: It is, It is truly a lot. And I think, 423 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a historian, so I'm not perfect 424 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: in knowing all of the historical events, right, so I 425 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: may not get the dates right, but what I do 426 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: know is that history will repeat itself until we get 427 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: it right. And so I think about, you know, over 428 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: the past weekend, the March on Washington commemorating over fifty 429 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: years ago, that this march took place, right, and even 430 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: though it was supposed to be a commemoration, it was 431 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: also about this shit is still happening. We still need 432 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: this change. And so I think about MLK, who has 433 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: been quoted as saying that like rioting, even though because 434 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: again let's go back to like the narrative, right, because 435 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: the narrative is that MLK was all about nonviolence, right, 436 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: But he has been quoted as saying that writing and 437 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: protesting are the way for people who have been unseen 438 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: and unheard to have their voices heard. Right, So if 439 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: I keep yelling to you, help, help, and you ignore 440 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: my cries, then what is it gonna take. What do 441 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: I need to do for you to hear my cry 442 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: and do something to help me? Well, that usually means 443 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: I need to be in your face and you need 444 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: to be made to feel uncomfortable, because then once you 445 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: are uncomfortable, you will be propelled to move to do something. 446 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: Yep. 447 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: And that's what this is. And so I want us 448 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: as we think about how we control our narrative, I 449 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: want us to think about how is this information really 450 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: being fed to us? Like, what is the intention behind 451 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: the stories that we are receiving? You know, these video 452 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: and these stories of so many black folks being killed 453 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: by police again is intentional to keep us oppressed and subjugated. 454 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: And living out of fear. You know, Yes, it's hard 455 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: to move and progress when you're on that low vibration 456 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: of fear. Like dom I was thinking. We went for 457 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: a drive down to like Palo Alto over the weekend, 458 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: and girl, we saw a police car on the highway 459 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 2: and the anxiety I didn't even tell my husband, but 460 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: the anxiety I felt in the passenger seat. I was 461 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: just like, Dann, that's so crazy, Like we're literally just 462 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: driving on the freeway and he could pull us over 463 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: and something could happen, and I just got super tense, 464 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: and I was just like, Okay, I hope you know 465 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: he drives off he ends up pulling someone else over. 466 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: But like, we shouldn't have to live like that, you 467 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 468 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: But they want us to write mm hm, I agree, 469 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: that is not a way to live. No, what's happening 470 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: is when we are living like that, our sympathetic nervous 471 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: system is constantly being activated. And when we talk about 472 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: the medical the physical health concerns that we experience as 473 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: a people, well that's because we are constantly being activated. 474 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, stress, trauma, all that. 475 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: That causes deterioration of our physical bodies. And then we 476 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: get into the medical system and we try to tell 477 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: the medical professionals when we do get over the past hurts, 478 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: the past wrongs of the medical system, when we can 479 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: bypass that enough to advocate for ourselves, we get ignored. 480 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: So again we're being fed the message. Something is wrong 481 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: with us. We are misinterpreting. We don't know better. 482 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: And before we dive into how to consume media in 483 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: a healthy way, you know, we talked a bit about 484 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: how media, how film, movies, off these things can change 485 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: and shape our minds and our thinking, and you ask 486 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: some really good questions that I think we should definitely 487 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: think about as we are tuning into media. And one 488 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: of the things that I wanted to point out is that, 489 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: you know, I was telling you before we started recording 490 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: that I watched The American Playboy, the Hugh Kefner Story, 491 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: and I mean, when I tell you this series, I 492 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: think it's on Amazon. It was so goodm I Binge 493 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: watched it in like a weekend, and after watching it, 494 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: I was very surprised, like because I was very inspired, 495 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 2: like as a creative and entrepreneur, I was so inspired, 496 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: and I was like, Wow, everyone should watch this huge 497 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: f from the story so great. And then I was like, 498 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: let me go through my research. I started reading some 499 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: of the reviews and there were definitely some mixed reviews. 500 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: Like he was part of the docu series or whatever 501 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: you want to call it, and so he obviously painted 502 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: himself in a very good light. I want to say, yes, 503 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: he you know, came from the bottom and he had 504 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: these I want to say revolutionary journey and you know, 505 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: media and business and all that. But there was also 506 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: a lot of things that I researched that were not 507 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: in the film that made you kind of side. I 508 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: am like, hmm, Okay, that wasn't really good. Okay, that's 509 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: what was going on. And so it just reminded me 510 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: of how we need to fact check, We need to 511 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: do our own research. We can't just take everything at 512 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: face value that we see on social media, right, We 513 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: really do need to be mindful of how our minds 514 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: are being influenced, because whether we know it or not, 515 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: whether we want to admit it or not, they are 516 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: being influenced. And so if we are not owning our narrative, 517 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: taking control over what we are consuming, then we'll find 518 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: ourselves in situations where we are going along with what 519 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: everyone else thinks, right, or going along with the narrative 520 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: that we might not even believe, but because it was 521 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: fed to us, we're like, Okay, it's easier to just 522 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 2: believe this instead of doing my own research. Right, So, lady, 523 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: we want to talk about I know we covered a 524 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: lot today, but this is such important information that we 525 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: need to just be privy of, especially when it comes 526 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: to our children and what they're tuning in too. I mean, 527 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: that's just a whole other conversation. So we want to write, 528 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: we want to end up on ways to consume media 529 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: in a healthy way that can help us all as 530 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: we are bombarded with social media. Netflix, I mean, you 531 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: have so many different shows coming out where it's like 532 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,719 Speaker 2: history air quotes, but whose perspective is it coming from? Right, 533 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: So just we've got to be healthy right when we 534 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: are consuming this content. So now I'm going to pass 535 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: the mic over to you to dive into our first tip. 536 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so our first tip is to know your sources, right, 537 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Know your sources. Fox News, that's one that we all 538 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: generally know is conservative media, and they still have not 539 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: figured out how to pronounce Kamala Harris rite and let 540 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: me not let me back up. It's not that they 541 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: haven't figured it out, they intentionally choose to mispronounce her 542 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: name right, So know your sources. So on one end 543 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: of the spectrum, we know Fox News is not the 544 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: source for us. They are not telling our narrative. But 545 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: also let's not be so quick to follow CNN. 546 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, or MSNBC. 547 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Or even like your local news, right, because again, they 548 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: have agendas that they're following. They are being paid by 549 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: larger companies, and so you want to be aware of 550 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: what is influencing those sources and how they are providing 551 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: the information to you. So I could do a better 552 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: job of like PBS, like watching the news on PBS, 553 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: because that's public broadcasting, like what is their phrase? Paid 554 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: for by viewers like you, So that means the public 555 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: we are putting into that. 556 00:34:59,120 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 3: Right. 557 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: The other thing that like I have heard and I 558 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: have done, but need to be better about, is news 559 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: from outside of the US, because they often share things 560 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: with us that are happening in our country that we 561 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: don't know about. 562 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: M donim. I will say, I think I have to 563 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 2: do a better job of this too, because I don't 564 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: typically watch the news often because I am still working 565 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: on my mental health plan and right now it's not 566 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 2: my best interest. But I still keep up to date 567 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 2: with certain things that are important. But I will say 568 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: I think it is important to tune into media that 569 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: we might disagree with, right, Like I might watch Fox 570 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: News just to see what kind of bullshit are they 571 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: spewing these days? Like what is the narrative, what is 572 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: the redit? What are they sharing? Just so I can 573 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: be aware of other people's perspectives out there that I 574 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: may engage with, right and interact with. And so I 575 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: think it is important to also, you know, tune into 576 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: media that you don't necessarily agree with, just to see 577 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 2: what else is out there. But again, we want to 578 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: be mindful of what we are accepting as truth, right. 579 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Like I like that idea of that's a really valid 580 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: point of like knowing what the other side is saying, 581 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, so that you have all perspectives in front 582 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: of you, right, and you can make an informed decision 583 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: on what you choose to consume. 584 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 2: Yep, that's right. I would agree with that, dom And 585 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: I think that takes us to number two, which is 586 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 2: ask questions right, use your critical thinking skills. So anytime 587 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: you see a news story, what's the intention here? Right? 588 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: I don't think the news was intended to be a 589 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 2: feel good broadcasting experience for us, right, Like the news 590 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: isn't like, oh, yeah, we're going to give you butterflies 591 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: and sunshine. No, that's not what I get When it 592 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: comes to intention. That's just not what I that's not 593 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: what I get, right, So what is the intention? Who 594 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: is the messenger? Who is the storyteller? Yes, it's important 595 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 2: to be informed, but also we want to look at 596 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: the intention behind the way that you're being informed. Right, 597 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: What political messages are we getting? How is this driving 598 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: the agendas that we believe are being pushed in the background. Right, 599 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 2: So just asking ourselves questions as we consume this content. 600 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: Right, And you know, I think as we have been 601 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: talking today, we've talked about controlling our narrative. Right as 602 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: we're talking, I keep in my mind going back to 603 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: our quote of the day about who is telling the story. 604 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: But I'm also reminded that again all skin folk ain't kinfolk. 605 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: So it's okay, Well, you know, people that we will 606 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: not name like to put out stories, like to twist 607 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: the narrative for their own benefit. And so again that 608 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: goes back to like we said, like tip two of 609 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,399 Speaker 1: really asking who is this person that's sharing this with 610 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: me and what is their intention behind them sharing this 611 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: with me? Now? 612 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Yes, Tom, you hit the nail on the the fucking head. Okay, girl, 613 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: I think we should question every thing, like lady, if 614 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: you're listening to Domini and we start talking sideways and 615 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 2: we say some shit that you're just like, paulse go 616 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: do your research. Go do your research, research us and understand, 617 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: like what are their intentions? What are they trying to do? 618 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: Because I personally believe that what I mean, you can 619 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 2: probably tell what we're trying to do with this platform. 620 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: Our goal is to uplift our community, especially black women. 621 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: And so there are black people out there, unfortunately who 622 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: don't mean black people well, who don't love black people, 623 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 2: and we need to be mindful of that. And you know, 624 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 2: just because we see a black person promoted to a 625 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 2: certain space, or just because we see a black person 626 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 2: in a certain powerful position, we still need to question 627 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: them and their intentions as well, right because I think 628 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: oftentimes I love the concept of I'm voting for everybody 629 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 2: black and everybody black. But the caveat and the asterisk 630 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 2: is what is this black person standing for? What are 631 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 2: their intentions? 632 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: Right? 633 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: Because if you're a black person that is supporting and 634 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 2: driving white supremacy, then we're not gonna fuck with you. 635 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: Like that's just not what we're doing here, you know 636 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's important research everyone question everything. 637 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I find myself going back to thinking about 638 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: the started on the plantation right of you get a 639 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: black person to. 640 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: Be the overseer. Yes, mm hm. 641 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,879 Speaker 1: So you have another black person coming in telling other 642 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: black folks what to do, how to be, and given 643 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: that taste. 644 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: Of power to. 645 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: Use discipline, enforce discipline. So then cool child, Yes, yes, 646 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: every know that all skin folks truly ain't kinfolks. 647 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: And watch out for that episode because we're going we're 648 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: gonna do an episode on that. Okay, it's coming soon. 649 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 1: And then tip number three, limit the news and social media. 650 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, Tea, you talked about this like of how 651 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: part of your mental health plan is to not consume 652 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,240 Speaker 1: the news. We don't have to be watching the news 653 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, even though it's available to a 654 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven, we don't have to consume it. 655 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: We can also be intentional on who we follow on 656 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: social media. Tie, I know you've talked about this before 657 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: in multiple episodes about how you keep the number of 658 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: people that you follow on social media pretty limited and 659 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: you focus on people who are putting out positivity. 660 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: Yes, and it helps tremendously downb oh my gosh. It 661 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 2: really does. 662 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: But I think that that speaks to your mental health plan, right, 663 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 1: and I think for some of us it means that 664 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: we limit our news intake to once a day, or 665 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: we decide that we're going to take a social media 666 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: break when things are getting too heavy. You know, I 667 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: saw a couple of folks over the weekend posting that 668 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: they notifying their followers and they were going to take 669 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: a social media break because they needed some space from 670 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: all that we were receiving in the news, all of 671 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: the net you were receiving, Yes, And so just to 672 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of recap for us the ways in which we 673 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: can consume media in a healthy way. It's the first, 674 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: know your sources, two ask questions, and three limit the 675 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: news and social media. 676 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. We're sending you big 677 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 2: virtual hugs because I know this is a tough time 678 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 2: for us all. And we'll see you next week. 679 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor Dom here from the Herspace podcast. 680 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: Do you have a burning question you're dying to get 681 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: feedback on? Do you want an unbiased perspective on a 682 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: situation you're facing. If so, visit herspacepodcast dot com and 683 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: click ask doctor Dom under the start here option. 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