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Speaker 1: it's like exercise bikes with really loud music, and they

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Speaker 1: actually like candles and they'll be a very um, very

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Speaker 1: fit and enthusiastic. Well, in my case, lady teaching the

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Speaker 1: class and was like, just hold on to your intention

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Speaker 1: and just spind your little hard out. Yeah, spin class,

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Speaker 1: that's right. And I was like, what is mine. What

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Speaker 1: is my intention to not have a gross dad bot.

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Speaker 1: I'm confused. I guess that's my intention, but I feel

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Speaker 1: like it was a deeper, more like zen thing than that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there was somebody who does a spin class indec there

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Speaker 1: has a spin class in d C runs one and

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Speaker 1: she said she saw Vanka Trump and she is going

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Speaker 1: to insist next time that she gets some time to

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Speaker 1: talk to her about her concerns about the country. And

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Speaker 1: it's like, no, no, not not cool, not okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: She's just she's just there to take your class, doesn't

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Speaker 1: really want to be accosted by you to have you

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Speaker 1: be like I just think that, like the polar bearers,

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Speaker 1: they're starving, and like I'm just trying to teach this

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Speaker 1: class and I'm so distracted by like the starving polar

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Speaker 1: bears and like do something of Anka. Yeah, so there's that. Um,

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Speaker 1: I see this all. I see this all the time,

448
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Speaker 1: though with there are no boundaries for Democrats between like

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Speaker 1: what could be considered a political position and what is

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Speaker 1: a day to day life and what's going on to

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Speaker 1: day to life. So okay, anyway, that's where I saw

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Speaker 1: the Ava thing. Now let's make fun of Hillary. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the latest situation with Hillary Clinton. So

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Speaker 1: this is up on Fox. It's based on a new

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Speaker 1: Federal Election Commission complaint and there is an accusation here,

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Speaker 1: an accusation of corruption and Clinton and those things go

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Speaker 1: together like peanut butter and jelly, as we know. Show

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Speaker 1: with that, let me say, I'm actually gonna hold this

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Speaker 1: One'll talk to you about what's happened after the break,

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Speaker 1: because it seems that the Clintons were trying to do

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Speaker 1: an end run on campaign finance and oh, it's so

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Speaker 1: dirty and there's so much hypocrisy and it's so Clintonian.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe also talked about how Frankin still when

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Speaker 1: is Tyrone? When is Frankin stepping down? Do we know yet?

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Speaker 1: Has he said yet? No? It was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: January all along it was okay, okay, So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm jumping the gun a little bit here. Alright, Alright,

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Speaker 1: some people are saying, buck, I buck, I I smell

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Speaker 1: and I told you so about that whole thing. Oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no not yet, everybody. I still I said he was resigning.

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Speaker 1: I still, but I'm getting nervous. We'll talk about Hillary though,

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Speaker 1: on the corruption. That's that should just be the title

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Speaker 1: of her autobiography, the Corruption. We'll talk about that after

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Speaker 1: the breaks. They we're getting into the Hillary corruption. I'm

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Speaker 1: really I'm really milking s are and I uh, Greg

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Speaker 1: you Okloba City, listen on the I heart up? What's up? Greg? Hey? Buck?

477
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to reach out to see if you

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Speaker 1: had read the article by Politico they put out on

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Speaker 1: Sunday about the d A and operation for a project

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Speaker 1: in Cassandra and HESBLA and the whole drug wandering and

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Speaker 1: gun running situation all over the world. Oh, I'm all over,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Next hour we got shans Are joining from

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Speaker 1: f DD to talk to me about it. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go deep on that one. It's a it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: astonishing story, isn't it. Hey, It's quite quite amazing buck.

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Speaker 1: Um As if I remember, I was sniper in US Army,

487
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Speaker 1: started to deal with division level intelligence and tracking people

488
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: all over Sodder City and um everything like that. And

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Speaker 1: to see the network that HESBA was built throughout the

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Speaker 1: world and the opportunity that we've had to make massive

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Speaker 1: DNS within that organization, UM and just have a blind

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Speaker 1: eye turned to it and pushed aside and stopped. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's kind of mesmerizing, uh, in the sense that

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Speaker 1: how we just didn't go after these guys and they're

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Speaker 1: known terrorists and yeah, and you know that Iranian proxies

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Speaker 1: were directly responsible for killing U S soldiers in Iraq,

497
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Speaker 1: that that that was the part probably hit close to home.

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Speaker 1: I have a buddy that lost the leg because of

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Speaker 1: UM one of those types of I D S called

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Speaker 1: e f p s. Yeah. UM, And to know that

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Speaker 1: I was riding around in the administration was like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to go after that. I know that

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Speaker 1: they've killed thousands of soldiers and named tens of thousands

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Speaker 1: with these things. They are gonna go straight through a

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Speaker 1: tank for those who don't know what this is, um.

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Speaker 1: And they did nothing to stop this. And we knew

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Speaker 1: when we were there in our or in Iraq where

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Speaker 1: in Iran they were making these out of the plan. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's talking about explosively formed penetrators everybody e f P S.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned it before, and they basically can punch a

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Speaker 1: cylindrical hole and armored vehicles, uh, and do it, you know,

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Speaker 1: kill everybody inside. Name them, and the Iranians were pushing

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Speaker 1: as many of them into a rock as fast as

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Speaker 1: they could to kill US soldiers. And he was helping

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Speaker 1: funding this and transfer those types of weapons in Iraq.

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Speaker 1: And it's really infuriating that we did nothing about it

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Speaker 1: or nothing to stop it when we we had the

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Speaker 1: chance to. Yeah, I mean that that Obama and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the details of this coming up, and

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Speaker 1: that Obama would have in any way taken pressure off

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Speaker 1: of HESBLAG given that organization's history of blood, us blood

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Speaker 1: as well as many other people's blood on its hands,

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Speaker 1: is as utterly appalling, but not all that surprising in

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Speaker 1: a sense when you think about the priorities of the

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Speaker 1: Obama administration. But Greg, thank you for servis buddy, thanks

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Speaker 1: for your call, and we will touch with next hour.

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Speaker 1: Next hour. We're on this for sure, So thank you.

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Speaker 1: It's a good reminder and uh and a preview of

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Speaker 1: what is to come. All right, I've been I've been

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Speaker 1: talking about it. Yes, you have Hillary Hillary campaign d

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Speaker 1: n C accused of corrupt money scheme and new FEC

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Speaker 1: complaint this up on Fox News. Let me give you

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Speaker 1: some of the details. A new legal complaint file with

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Speaker 1: the Federal Election Commission alleged at the Hillary Clinton campaign

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Speaker 1: and the Democratic National Committee used state chapters as strong

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Speaker 1: men to circumvent campaign donation limits and laundered the money

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Speaker 1: back to her campaign. Uh, this doesn't really surprise anybody,

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Speaker 1: does it. Quote Individuals who had maxed out their dollar

539
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Speaker 1: contribution limit to the campaign could write an additional check

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Speaker 1: for three hundred and fifty three thousand, four hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: to the Hillary Victory Fund. That figure represented ten thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to each of the thirty two states parties who

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Speaker 1: were part of the Victory Fund agreement. Grand and thirty

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Speaker 1: three thousand, four hundred of the d n C reads

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00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: a passage from the book that's on this, the money

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Speaker 1: would be deposited in the states first and then transferred

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Speaker 1: to the d n C shortly after That. Money in

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Speaker 1: the battleground states usually stayed in that state, but all

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Speaker 1: of their states follow that money directly the d n C,

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Speaker 1: which quickly transferred the money to the Clinton campaign headquarters

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, YEP. So they're saying eighty four million dollars

552
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Speaker 1: was funneled illegally from the d n C through state

553
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Speaker 1: party chapters eighty four million. Now, look and I know

554
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: that they spend hundreds of millions of dollars on presidential

555
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Speaker 1: races now billion billion dollars now on the presidential race.

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Speaker 1: But a four million dollars a lot of money no

557
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Speaker 1: matter what presidential race are in or not, no matter

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Speaker 1: what political race you're in, And that Hillary's people would

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Speaker 1: have found some way to violate the spirit, if not

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Speaker 1: the letter, of campaign finance laws. It's particularly rich because

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Speaker 1: and I think this is a critical point to hit on,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are the ones who are always yelling about

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Speaker 1: dark money in politics, uh, corporations as people and making

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Speaker 1: donations and all this that that is what Democrats are

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Speaker 1: constantly whining about. Right, They're the ones who say that

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Speaker 1: because of citizens United and Obama said outside money will

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Speaker 1: flow the United States. That was just an out and outlie.

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Speaker 1: I should note this is not true, as Samuel Alito

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Speaker 1: mouth during that State of the Union address. It just

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Speaker 1: was not true. But here we are the same individuals

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Speaker 1: who will go on TV and shamelessly just prattle on

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Speaker 1: about how Republicans want there to be all this money

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Speaker 1: and politics and all this bad stuff, uh, all this

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00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: bad stuff going on when it comes to funding campaigns.

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Speaker 1: Then we see when we when we actually get to

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Speaker 1: open the books and look around a little bit, we

577
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: find out that sure enough, sure enough, Democrats are pulling

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Speaker 1: every dirty trick they can. And we're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Clintons here, everyone, we're talking about Hillary. I want to

580
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Speaker 1: know when we get a full financial accounting, a kind

581
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: of Clinton campaign autopsy that lets us look at all

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Speaker 1: of the different schemes and conspiracies and everything else that

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Speaker 1: they had going on there, because I I think that

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Speaker 1: that that is a component in why they're so outraged

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00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: about Trump winning, because they did everything. I mean, they

586
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 1: pulled out all the stops, and they had the media

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00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: in their back pocket, and it was all supposed to happen.

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00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: They just ran a really unlikable, charmless candidate who didn't

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Speaker 1: even know why she was running and was just foisting

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Speaker 1: herself on the American people. And like all uh and

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: like all of those whose egos greatly outpaced their ability,

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00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton assumed that while she was foisting herself on

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Speaker 1: us to be the next president United States, she was

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Speaker 1: doing us a favor, a big favor. So that's now

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00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: finally melted away. I think as a narrative because she

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00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: lost again. But you know, it's just a reminder that

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00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: while we're always told that the Trump campaign, well we're

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00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: hearing all about the rush of stuff these days, and

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00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: we're told all these stories about it, the more we

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Speaker 1: look into it, the more we will find out that,

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00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: sure enough, there was all kinds of shadiness, all kinds

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Speaker 1: of shadiness when you look at Hiller's campaign. Alright, one

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Speaker 1: more here here's and I think we played this yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to get into a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You got Frankin not yet resigned ties ties keeping me

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Speaker 1: calmon here. I'm not yet freaking out about this, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not because Frankin's gotta go. Uh. That's too gross,

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Speaker 1: even for the Democrats at this stage of the game,

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Speaker 1: I hope. And some of your like, no, it's not buck.

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Speaker 1: I think it is, though. But you got Senator Mansion,

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Speaker 1: who I don't believe was initially calling for Franken to

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Speaker 1: step down. No, he was not saying this. What they

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Speaker 1: did al was atrocious. The Democrats the most hypocritical thing

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen done to human being. And then have

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Speaker 1: enough guts to sit on the floor I'm watching giving

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Speaker 1: speech and go over and hugging. That's hypocrisy at the

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Speaker 1: hostile I've ever seen in my life. Made me sick.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't resigned yet, he said, I hope he doesn't know.

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Speaker 1: I just what is the mansion? The mansion play here

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Speaker 1: is he? You know? Why why say this unless he

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Speaker 1: really thinks that there's a chance that it would have there.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason to curry favor with Frankin on the

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Speaker 1: way out and mansion may get may get a little

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00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: blowback from this, So why do it unless it's a

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00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: trial balloon, right, unless he's trying to just just creak

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00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: that door open a little bit. We all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: Franklin's like and a lot. I'm just gonna stay. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna be in the That's not stay forever. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna be here. Uh. I don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But there's a part of me that thinks that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. So we will keep a close eye

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00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: on that. One of the Trump's accusers and missing information

633
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: broke on the Hill last night. One of the people

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Speaker 1: that has in the past accused Trump of sexual assault

635
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Speaker 1: to talk about that in the next hour. Also that

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Speaker 1: incredible story about the obadministration and taking the heat, taking

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Speaker 1: the pressure off of a terrorist organization, off of hasblow.

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Speaker 1: We've got that North Korea cyber hacking. Big second hour,

639
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Speaker 1: a big third hour. So say there are you are.

640
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Speaker 1: I'll be back in just a few. So you have

641
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Speaker 1: said that you've so often about the tax cut set

642
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: families will see in the first few years of the plan.

643
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Speaker 1: What can you say about the tax cuts that individuals

644
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: will see in the end of the next decade. Because

645
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Speaker 1: the j c T analysis showed that so pously, we

646
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Speaker 1: have every intent of making those permanent because of the

647
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: Senate rules. You know why that that sunset is there,

648
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: So it is obviously our intent, like time's passed to

649
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: make all those permanent. Speak of the House, Paul Ryan

650
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: saying they're gonna make the tax cuts permanent. They passed

651
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: it in the House. We are waiting on the big

652
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: hurrah from the Senate. Whoa, and then the House is

653
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to pass again, as I said to you,

654
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: And so after that that Trump is gonna that's a

655
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: signing ceremony that I feel like it's gonna be worth watching.

656
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: I don't know why I couldn't tell you how. I

657
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: just have a feeling that Trump is gonna it's gonna

658
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna get it's gonna get trumped up, it's gonna

659
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: get trumpeified. It's in a good way. That's signing ceremony.

660
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what, you know, He's gonna come in

661
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: on a you know, dangling from I don't know, helicopter

662
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 1: with a cape on, and it's gonna be there's gonna

663
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: be some theatrics, right, There's gonna be something behind it

664
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Speaker 1: because it's a big deal for the GOP. It is

665
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: a is a big deal. So anyway, uh oh, one

666
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: more thing. I didn't get a chance to mention the

667
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: last hour about the tax cuts in that whole situation.

668
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing when you see that the analyzes, I

669
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't even say nonpartisan analyzes, but analysis from both sides.

670
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that Americans will get a tax cut

671
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: of some kind if you pay taxes basically, and you're

672
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: not a really high owner or a property owner in

673
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: a blue state with already high property taxes, because the

674
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: changes to the state and local tax reduction salt, uh,

675
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay less in taxes, and yet somehow, and

676
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: this is the Wall Street Journal reporting on it, and

677
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Wall stt drum, They're like, oh my gosh,

678
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: tax cuts, Like yes, it's the super Bowl over the

679
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: Wall Street draw right now. It does not get more

680
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: exciting than the biggest tax one point five trillion dollars

681
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: of cuts, biggest tax cut in thirty years. The Wall

682
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: Street Journal is like, oh baby, it's amazing. Like there,

683
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: you know what is the guy who's the sports guy

684
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: who would like yell the you know what, dick is it?

685
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Dick fightal is that? Well? Would he always yell I

686
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: don't know, diaper dandy. It's beautiful baby, It's beautiful baby.

687
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, it's beautiful baby. That's what I was trying

688
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: to think of. It's beautiful baby. Over the Wall Street Journal.

689
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: That's what they're They're they're gonna accept the Wall Street Journal.

690
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: So instead of doing Dick vital thing, they're like, you know,

691
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a phenomenal expansion of the markets. So yeah,

692
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. Um. I

693
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Speaker 1: wanted to, But forty one percent of Americans, according to

694
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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, say the tax plans a bad idea,

695
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: and this has become a Democrat talking point, which is

696
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: somewhat astonishing when you think about it. How how is

697
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: this possible that they don't like that, that a majority

698
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: of Americans don't like a tax cut. Well, when you

699
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: look at roughly American still paying income tax, and then

700
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: you look at the power of the media to frame

701
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: this narrative as they see fit, and you've got Nancy Pelosi,

702
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: He's like, heaven, it's going to die because of the

703
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: tax cut. Uh. Then you know, I guess it's kind

704
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: of scary, But no reasonable rational analysis of this thing

705
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: should make anybody oppose it, unless you're gonna talk to

706
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: you about the debt, the deficit, right that then that's

707
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: a whole other discussion. But the government shouldn't give you

708
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: back more of your money. It is it is now,

709
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: I think an article of faith on the left that

710
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: tax cuts are just a form of you stealing money

711
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Speaker 1: from the government. Think of how twisted that logic is,

712
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: how how backwards that psychology has become. But that's what

713
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Speaker 1: they believe. That your money, in the eyes of the

714
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, is not in fact your property, that is

715
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Speaker 1: not the result of your labor, your decisions. It is

716
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: whatever the government deigns to let you keep. That's what

717
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: your money is. It's as though you're on an allowance.

718
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Speaker 1: Whatever your cash accounts are, whatever you have in the bank,

719
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 1: whatever you own your home, that's what the government lets

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Speaker 1: you have. That's really the mentality of the Democrat Party

721
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Speaker 1: has now that it's almost as though, yeah, we were

722
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Speaker 1: not a communist state, but there's all property is really

723
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: property of the state, and then we just distribute it unequally,

724
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Speaker 1: which is something they probably want to address at some

725
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Speaker 1: point in the future, isn't It's concerning Well, we're all

726
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: in the Senate, the Senate countdown here, I see the

727
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Democrats are all fired up to about how Trump has

728
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Speaker 1: been saying he will likely take a quote big hit

729
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: on the tax plan. They're all saying, no, he won't.

730
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Speaker 1: See this is where at CNN they're like, oh gosh,

731
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Speaker 1: the presidents such a liar, and everyone's like, who cares

732
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: what he's trying to sell it. He's a salesman. It's

733
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Speaker 1: not really. There are lies, and there are are lies, right,

734
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Speaker 1: the President saying he's likely to take a big hit.

735
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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, maybe you won't take a big hit,

736
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Speaker 1: but nobody cares CNN. This is why. Hey, you know,

737
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Speaker 1: you get in prime time three million people watching Fox

738
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Speaker 1: to a half million people watching MSNBC and like eod

739
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: people watching CNN. There's a reason for it. Chris in California,

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00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: what's up? Chris? Hello, Shields, Hi, Hey, Shields High. So

741
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Speaker 1: we spoke last Friday and we were discussing corporate tax rates.

742
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Speaker 1: Much more in favor of the reduction. I know your favorite,

743
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm more in favor. And along the way

744
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: you had mentioned we're talking about reconciliation. If you had

745
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: mentioned that one of your big problems that they're not expending, well,

746
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I was completely wrong, and I wanted

747
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: to call and tell you that. Wait, wait, I wanted

748
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: to hear this. You're telling me that what were you saying?

749
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Speaker 1: So I was under the impression, the false impression that

750
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Speaker 1: in order to pass the eating but your recociliation, but

751
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: pretty much everything had to stay the dame. The revenue

752
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: is dispending. Everything has to be the same, and you

753
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: could shuffle around where that money went, but the numbers

754
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: had be the same. And you had said that, you know,

755
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: part of the problem with the bill is that they

756
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: aren't cutting spending, which obviously I agree we do need

757
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: to do, and that is what I was wrong about it.

758
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm still firmly in favor of the corporate tax rate production,

759
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: but I was completely wrong about their ability to cut spending,

760
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: eating but recociliation, and I just wanted to guess and

761
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: let you know that you were right and I was wrong. Well, well,

762
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: thank you, sir. I appreciate you you being a stand

763
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: up guy about it, and I like your fire on

764
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: the tax issue. You know, like it's important, right, this

765
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: is about your property, This is about your ability to

766
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: provide for yourself if you've got a family, your family,

767
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: and and uh and this does really matter. But yeah,

768
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Speaker 1: you know, I think it's it's important that we don't

769
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Speaker 1: completely lose sight of the fact that spending we're now

770
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: in like spending nirvana with the federal government. Remember just

771
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: spend spend, spence, spence. No one even talks about touching

772
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Speaker 1: and tounlements. Don't even how many people know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: be honest with yourself that we went over half a

774
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: true allion more into debt this year. I think I

775
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: think we have the highest tax receipts. I mean, you know,

776
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: most tax taken from people in American history. I think

777
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: it was like three point three trillion or something like that. So, Chris,

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Speaker 1: that's concerning, right. I mean people say, oh, twenty trillion,

779
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: We're okay, it's thirty trillion, okay, is forty trillion okay?

780
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: You know, at what point do we start crowding out

781
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: other parts of the economy just by trying to service

782
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: the debt we have the moment interest rates rise by

783
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: the way, I feel like things are gonna get wild. Absolutely.

784
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: I worked in finance, which is part of the reason

785
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: that I'm all about lower in taxes for everybody. But

786
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: the spending is certainly an issue, and politically it's another

787
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: part of the conversation we had last week. Politically, I

788
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: mean this text that's hard enough. You just spread the numbers.

789
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: People their taxes up. So what I'm hopeful that spending

790
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: reductions are on the horizon at some point about talking

791
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: about a trillion dollars. Infrastruct are bailed at tax problems

792
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: and for spending reductions. But if they didn't do it now,

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Speaker 1: I can actually understand that as well, because you pointed out,

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00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: you know the politics of this are very, very difficult

795
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: and if we were cutting taxes for the richest one

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00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: percent and at the same time cutting spending, I think

797
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: the firestone be ten times worse. So a hundred ten

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00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: percent agree with you. We need to cut spending, and

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Speaker 1: I hope that they do something about it. I think

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Speaker 1: the twenty trillion dollars an unfathomable number. People do not

801
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: They're not able to comprehend it, and so it doesn't

802
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: mean very much to them. But eventually, especially as interest

803
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: rates rise, which we've been seeing, they are going to

804
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: start going up. And as he said, once the debt

805
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: service becomes unmanageable, then what are we gonna do? Yeah,

806
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: And the problem with these issues is that, as you know,

807
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: when everyone realizes a problem, it's kind of too late.

808
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: That's the exactly that's kicking the can down the road, right.

809
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: You've been doing it for years and years. I remember

810
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: when when George W. Bush doubled it from what four

811
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: to eight trillion, and Obama said that it was immoral. Yeah,

812
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: like it was I'm patriotic or amoralia he said, all

813
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: kinds of patriotic. There you go, And he doubled it

814
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: from eight to sixteen. But that's completely patriotic so politics problem,

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Speaker 1: I hear. Hey, Chris, thanks for a great call man,

816
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Speaker 1: Thank you for for calling in to follow up. I

817
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: appreciate that he's a good guy. You know, maybe somebody

818
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: else wants to call and be like, you know, I

819
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: think you're actually right about that shooting in Arizona, Buck.

820
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: I thought your analysis was spot on, and I probably

821
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Speaker 1: should have been a little bit more friendly putting that

822
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Speaker 1: out there. Oh, by the way, there is also a

823
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: follow up from the story about that judge who was

824
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Speaker 1: asked by a Republican do what was the judge's name, Tyrone?

825
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: You remember the I forget his name? Was a Senator Kennedy? Okay, no, no,

826
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Speaker 1: but the the the guy who was up on this

827
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Speaker 1: state you know who was getting question? I forget his name. Um. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: he was sitting there there like so, uh, have you

829
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Speaker 1: ever have you ever handled the motion in court? Have

830
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: you ever trying at a civil case? Have you ever

831
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: tried a criminal case? Uh? Do you know anything about

832
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: the law? Can you, in fact read the first few

833
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: pages of a legal textbook? Would you be able to

834
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Speaker 1: represent yourself on an episode of Judge Judy? I mean,

835
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Speaker 1: he just kept going through this thing and then the

836
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: guy's answer was like, um, no, sir, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: His name was Matthew Peterson. Matthew Peterson. I thought it

838
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: was Peterson. Anyway, he had a rough time. You know,

839
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: you think you you're just gonna get to be a

840
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: federal judge. He had a rough time, and he has withdrawn.

841
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: The Internet era is unforgiving of things like that. So yeah, hey,

842
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: but in a sense, you know, in a sense, this

843
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: is the way the process is supposed to work. We

844
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: all say all these hearings. It feels like a rubber

845
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: stamp sometimes with the all this grandstanding. But you know,

846
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: sometimes the Senate actually serves a useful purpose with this stuff,

847
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Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, so this person is just really

848
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: not qualified to do this job. It was a little

849
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: small key though. I was hoping that my twenty years

850
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: of service would overtake too bad minutes on the internet.

851
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh he said that, Yes, as if he wasn't completely

852
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: unqualified any competence, I think he I think he was

853
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: be clowned. Yeah, yes, yes, accurate, he was. He was

854
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: clowned well, well a little bit huffy. I didn't know

855
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: about that part, thank you, Tyrone. So he's he's stepped

856
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: down from it. Um, well, they're an update on the

857
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: Moulla probe and to get to that, also North Korea

858
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: and the cyber programs that they're running that affect anyone

859
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: who's connected to the internet, So that's a problem for

860
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: all of us. The bombshell story yesterday, I'm just holding

861
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: it because we wanted to wait till we get Jonathan

862
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: Schanzer joining us from f d D. I mean, I've

863
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: got a lot of thoughts on it too, but we're

864
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: gonna spend a good chunk on how Obama was like, whoa, hey, hey,

865
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: US law enforcement d e a back off of Hezbollah

866
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: because we want to keep Iran happy. Think about that.

867
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty wow in a bad way. Um, and

868
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: we'll talking about the mother thing and uh, how much

869
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: longer is it gonna go on? I'll give you the

870
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: latest on that and that question right after the break.

871
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: So I think it was a day ago that the

872
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: storyline that the press was pushing on the Muller probe

873
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: was that Trump was gonna fire Muller, and it was

874
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: almost like they were they were daring him to fire Muller.

875
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: That became though it was Trump gonna do this, Oh

876
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: Trump might do this, and and Trump had said, and

877
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: I played the audio of the president on this show,

878
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: Trump had said, I'm not gonna fire him. Is that

879
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: It kind of like that too, You know, it's not

880
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but they're still raising it all the time.

881
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 1: A lot of you know, think pieces in the media

882
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: are often just an excuse for making stuff up and

883
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: writing it and putting it out there. Right, So, you know,

884
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm just doing it. I'm just doing a think piece

885
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: on you know, what it would look like if Donald

886
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: Trump became a fascist and destroyed America. It's just a

887
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: thick piece. I mean, I don't I don't need any

888
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: sources or it. Uh. Today the storyline is that the

889
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: Mueller probe may go on for another year. That's what

890
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: they're So that's what the different sources out there are saying.

891
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: I see here Vanity Fair reporting on this, and and

892
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of others, and they're wondering, you know

893
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: what that will mean in terms of his response, And

894
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: what I would just say is it doesn't doesn't really

895
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: mean anything thing in terms of presence response. There was all,

896
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much this reporting is true.

897
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: How much of this is just rumor intelligence so to speak,

898
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: This out there just meandering on with whatever people in

899
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: DC are saying. But there was a storyline that Trump

900
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: was having his Trump's lawyers met with the Mueller people

901
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: and he thought they might exonerate him or something. Right now,

902
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: was that true? I don't know who, who are the sources?

903
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: Who knows you? I think at this point you have

904
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: to take a lot of there's a lot of salt

905
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: that you must take with many of these allegations, accusations,

906
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: news stories, all of it right, and on the Muller probe,

907
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: I would just note that what has it brought us

908
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: this past year? What have we what? What has the

909
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: Muller probe shown us? Nothing? It's been going on for

910
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: months and months and months, and there is nothing from

911
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: that probe that we can point to and say, well,

912
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: isn't this a good idea? Aren't we glad we knew

913
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: that all of the prosecutions that it had, or the

914
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: charges that have come from it so far, prosecutions haven't

915
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: been completed yet, are for mickey mouse stuff. It's slowing

916
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: down the administration. It's definitely a hindrance to Trump. And therefore,

917
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: if you believe as I do, and I'm sure almost

918
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: all of you listening do as well. Exaph for you

919
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: one or two crazy libs out there who like to

920
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: just listen in to some form of you know, driving

921
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: yourself crazy. But hey, welcome to the Hut. If you

922
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: believe the President Trump is doing good things for the country, there,

923
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: that means that people who are standing in his way

924
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: with political nonsense like the Mueller probe are hurting the country.

925
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: That this is actually damaging, That this is not just

926
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: an exercise in fact finding, but an exercise in sabotage

927
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: via prosecution or sabotage via investigation. That's what I think

928
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: it is. So this does not come without costs. And

929
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't just mean the millions of taxpayer dollars that

930
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: go into it. I mean what this does to the agenda,

931
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: what this does to the function functions of the White House.

932
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: That really could help people. You know, it could help

933
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: you get further ahead in your career, pay some bills,

934
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: and have a sense of optimism and prosperity. Right, That's

935
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: that would all be really good stuff. Carl in Virginia, welcome, sir. Hey,

936
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: how are you doing this? Evening? Buck I'm good, Thank

937
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: you for calling in. Yeah, you were talking about the

938
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: deficit and the budget. One of the things I hope

939
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: President Trump brings in the next year or two is

940
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: more of a business mindset to the government. Um, as

941
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 1: far as they're spending practices. Because having my mom was government,

942
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: my dad was there force, I was in the army,

943
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: so we saw it at all different levels. Was they

944
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: act like that, oh, it's uh open well, and especially

945
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year, we have this money

946
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: we have to spend, you know, they don't act like

947
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: it's their own. Yeah. Of course. In fact, in a

948
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: lot of government agencies and contracts and things, if you

949
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: don't spend it, you get less than next year. So

950
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: there's a there's a built in incentive to spend money

951
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't spend that taxpayer money. Yeah. And there's

952
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: another point. On last night, you were talking about Judge

953
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Ruary Moore and he made a reference to how it

954
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: was like a Japanese soldier in hiding. I know one

955
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 1: well known case was back in seventy two or seventy

956
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: three there was an Imperial Japanese soldier who they had

957
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: sightings of and he was in the Philippine Island and

958
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: they used a psychological you know, both out speakers and stuff,

959
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: and brought people from Japan and he finally came out

960
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: of hiding then, and that was in seventy two or

961
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: seventy three, So there was a confirmed case. You're telling me, Okay, yeah,

962
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: that was well known. Yeah, yeah, I'll check that one out,

963
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: all right, man, Well, thank you very much for calling in, Carl.

964
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Shields high, do you, sir? Uh? Yeah,

965
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: I gotta have you heard about that on the the island.

966
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean, people was talking about the Japanese soldier that's

967
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: still on the island, like ready to fight, you know,

968
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: twenty years later or whatever. But I didn't know if

969
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: that was actually that it actually happened. You know, it's

970
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: like people always saying Napoleum is really short, false people

971
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: are actually just shorter. Then you know that there's people

972
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: don't know stuff. I hear the rumors and sometimes I

973
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: hear like the guy has taken a life, but he

974
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 1: still like thinks he has to fight. It's weird, and

975
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: he still goes out there to fight every day, but

976
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: he's like living a normal life behind the scenes. I've

977
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: really heard stories like that. Just because we're talking about

978
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: the subject if someone left bed makes me think of

979
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: the movie Last Samurai, which is a very well shot,

980
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: very poorly written screenplays. In my opinion, he's the only

981
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: guy who survives two battles and he becomes like a

982
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: super samurai and about two months. But other than that,

983
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, good movie. I guess you are now entering

984
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: the Freedom Technical Operations Center. Programs must be kept strictly.

985
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: Need to know Team Buck is cleared and ready for

986
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: the Buck brief. After careful investigation, the United States is

987
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: publicly attributing the massive one of christ cyber attacks in

988
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 1: North Korea. We did not make this allegation lately. We

989
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: do so with evidence, and we do so with partners.

990
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: That was a revelation that I think many people are

991
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: not surprised by, but nonetheless is deeply concerning. White House

992
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: Homeland Security advisor Tom Bossert wrote in a Wall Street

993
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: journal or this week, and that was him speaking there,

994
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: that the Wanna Cry Wentz a ransom where virus from

995
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: back in May that caused billions of dollars of damage

996
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: and was essentially a virus that would seize control of computers,

997
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: including I believe hospitals in the UK their computer systems

998
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: and demanding bitcoin as payment, that the North Korea was

999
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: behind that. Now I understand that in the pop culture

1000
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: will be living. There's a lot of mocking of North

1001
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Korea's technological inferiority, and there have even been some parody

1002
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: Twitter it's created about how you know, Kim Jong ill

1003
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: is still so excited about his new VHS recorder that

1004
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: he got and all that. I understand that that's out there,

1005
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: but understand this that at the top levels of that government,

1006
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: they still have substantial resources and they play by their

1007
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: own rules. They do not care. There's nothing that is

1008
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: out of bounds for them if they think it is

1009
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: going to serve They're very narrow interests, and that includes

1010
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: all kinds of criminal activity around the world. As long

1011
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: as the North Korean regime, as long as Kim Jong

1012
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: on believes that there is a way to make money,

1013
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: he's basically fine with it because there's nothing that he

1014
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: can really do short of maybe trying to, I don't know,

1015
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: engage in massive currency duplication counterfeiting that would be an

1016
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: active war financially, that would actually get a war to

1017
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: his doorstep. So if that me if that with that

1018
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: in my cyber war and cyber warfare, especially for criminal profit,

1019
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: is going to become an increasingly serious problem. I mean

1020
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: it already is an issue, but it is going to

1021
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: get worse. And North Korea does not just operate on

1022
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: its own territory when it comes to this as well,

1023
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: Um there are concerns in North Korea has elite hacker

1024
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: units that operate off of its own soil. So uh,

1025
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: this now means that our idea of boxing in North Korea,

1026
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: our idea of locking them into a state where they

1027
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: are just going to be essentially the regime will will

1028
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: shrivel and and won't be able to continue on doesn't

1029
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: take into account one the smuggling across the border, and

1030
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: two that they will engage in all kinds of criminal activity,

1031
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: elicit black market activity. So this is something that I

1032
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: think needs to be factored in when we talked about

1033
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with with North Korea. And Bureau one

1034
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: is the North Korean cyber Warfare Agency, and it is

1035
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: a clandestine It has does clandestine operations and is is

1036
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: not just aggressive but also is uh much more capable.

1037
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people recognize and what

1038
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: do you do if you have somebody who is out

1039
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, all you need really is an Internet turnal right,

1040
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: what do you do if you have people who are

1041
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: operating under the North under North Korean direction, in rogue

1042
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: states or regimes where it doesn't matter if we find

1043
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: out who they are, there's not gonna be any extradition.

1044
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: So this is a this is a big problem, a

1045
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: big concern, and just the whole notion of ransomware I

1046
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: think is going to get a lot worse. Cyber spending

1047
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: has been coming up, has been raised sin actually in

1048
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: recent years, and we will have to see if the

1049
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: North Koreans, if there's a way to stop them effectively

1050
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: stop them from doing this. But you know the Sony

1051
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: re member, the Sony Pictures hack that was North Korea.

1052
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: These guys are a menace. And it's not just about

1053
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: cutting off oil reserves and hoping that we will somehow

1054
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: find a way, um somehow find a way to make

1055
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: their economy collapse. It's it's already operating largely in black

1056
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: markets and in the dark on the dark web. It's

1057
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: just just an added layer of complexity. All right, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the Hasblah situation that

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Speaker 1: has come to light because of politicals reporting. It's a

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Speaker 1: bombshell report and it's really you should obviously listen what

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Speaker 1: we're about to talk about here, but if you get

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Speaker 1: the chance tomorrow or you know, this weekend, read that piece,

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Speaker 1: because when you see the details, it just feels like

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Speaker 1: there was very little that the Obama illustration. The President

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Speaker 1: Obama himself was not willing to concede or even sell

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Speaker 1: out to make Iran happy. This wasn't even like a

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Speaker 1: horse trade in the sense that we didn't even have

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Speaker 1: to get anything. I mean, Obama wasn't saying I'll back

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Speaker 1: off Hesbalah, but you'll do this really important thing for me.

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Speaker 1: He was saying, I'll back off Hesbala because I don't

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Speaker 1: want to upset the Iranians because I want them to

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Speaker 1: sign this deal. Oh okay. It just goes to show

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Speaker 1: you that the Iranians had all the leverage in the world,

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Speaker 1: even though Obama, because of the United States and the the

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Speaker 1: US military, had a winning hand going to those negotiations.

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Speaker 1: So that's coming up in just a moment. Stay with

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Speaker 1: me for that. So, just how much was President Obama

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Speaker 1: willing to trade away in order to get that hopelessly

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Speaker 1: flawed nuclear deal. What we found out, courtesy of an

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Speaker 1: investigation by Politico that it might have even included backing

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Speaker 1: off of a vicious she A terrorist group. She Islamic

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Speaker 1: terrorist group known as Hezbollah. Uh to walk us through

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Speaker 1: this incredible story and the implications of it for the

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Speaker 1: for the Trump administration. Now we've got doctor Jonathan Schanzer

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Speaker 1: on the line. He is a senior vice president at

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Speaker 1: the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Also got a piece

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Speaker 1: in the New York Post how Trump can repair the

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Speaker 1: damage from Obama's narco terror fail. Jonathan, great to have

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Speaker 1: you back. All right, can you just tell everybody what

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Speaker 1: happened here with this political investigation and what have we

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Speaker 1: found out about Hezbollah and the actions of the Obama

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Speaker 1: administration towards that group. Sure? Well, I think first it's

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Speaker 1: incredibly important to point out here that his BLA is

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Speaker 1: probably the prized asset of a run that it his balls,

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Speaker 1: it's probably its most most lethal terrorist organization. They think

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Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars into his BLA every year,

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Speaker 1: and recently they've expanded from Lebanon and into Theoria, for example,

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Speaker 1: where they're fighting on behalf of the Aside regime, and

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Speaker 1: and now we've learned that they have this expansive drug

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Speaker 1: network that stretches as far as Latin America. Now fast

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Speaker 1: forward to two thousand and fifteen when the nuclear deal

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Speaker 1: is signed. Now, the lead up to that was incredibly

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Speaker 1: delicate for President Obama. Uh. He was trying to give

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Speaker 1: the Iranian to everything that they could possibly ask for,

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Speaker 1: because he quite frankly did not want to go to

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Speaker 1: war with Iran over its nuclear program. He was desperate

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Speaker 1: to get to get a deal done, and so there

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Speaker 1: was one concession after another, the most famous, of course,

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Speaker 1: being that we provided the Iranians with about a hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty billion dollars in sanctions relief. Some of that

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Speaker 1: came in the form of cash on pallets by way

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Speaker 1: of unmarked aircraft. And now we find out, through this

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Speaker 1: remarkable story by Josh Meyer Politico, that that Obama actually

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Speaker 1: instructed the U government to back off of his ball

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Speaker 1: for fear of upsetting Iran. This is astonishing, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, if it wasn't written in Politico, I think

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Speaker 1: you would have seen a lot of the left wing

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Speaker 1: media come out against this and say that it was

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. There's no way, it's crazy. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of pushback on this. I didn't even see,

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Speaker 1: although it might have happened, any tweets from former Obama

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Speaker 1: official Ben Rhodes saying, oh, you guys have got this

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Speaker 1: all wrong. So far, it sounds like this is what happened,

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Speaker 1: which would mean that Obama was telling the d o J, Hey,

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Speaker 1: that international terrorist group that's involved in NARCO smuggling and

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Speaker 1: weapons trafficking and all that stuff, why don't you leave

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Speaker 1: them alone? Because I don't want the Mullas in Tehran

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Speaker 1: to be upset with me. I really need this nuke deal.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And I actually I think it's even worse

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Speaker 1: than that, because I thought that was pretty bad. How

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Speaker 1: was it worth? It's bad? But but now now just

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Speaker 1: think for a moment that you've got his ball of

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Speaker 1: running cocaine two places in the United States and two

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Speaker 1: places like Europe, and Obama is telling his his narco team,

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Speaker 1: this group called Project Cassandra, which was basically spearheaded by

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Speaker 1: the d e A, he dismantles this program. So what

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Speaker 1: he's basically saying is, let's let his bullah continue to

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Speaker 1: get wealthy off of drugs that they sell to the

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Speaker 1: West in order to get this deal done. And so

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Speaker 1: you really get a sense of how bad this is.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, we're not hearing uh protests at least

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Speaker 1: not yet from what we call the echo chamber of

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Speaker 1: former Obama officials. It'll be interesting to see whether they

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Speaker 1: mount a comeback, but so far it really has been

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Speaker 1: bit players trying to challenge this on the margins. This

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Speaker 1: does look like it happened. And maybe one other PostScript

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Speaker 1: here is we have talked at FTD, We have talked

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Speaker 1: to people who were part of Project Cassandra, and they

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Speaker 1: are openly UH talking about this. They have been seething

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Speaker 1: for a long time and they were finally apparently able

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Speaker 1: to get Josh Meyer over Politico to write it up.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Jonathan Chanzer, who's a VP over at the

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Speaker 1: Foundation for Defensive Democracies. And before we move on to

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Speaker 1: one other topic of the Mid eastn't want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about Jonathan. I thought that it got not nearly

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Speaker 1: enough attention that in President Trump's National security strategy there

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Speaker 1: was specific mention or specific citation of Hezbollah. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this administration is gearing up for at least confronting

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Speaker 1: has not necessarily militarily, but tackling this challenge in ten

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Speaker 1: How do you think that's a fair read and how

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Speaker 1: would they do that, assuming they do it well? I

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Speaker 1: think it is a fair read, and I think we

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Speaker 1: all need to understand that his blah is a core

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Speaker 1: part of a run's regional strategy. In other words, as

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Speaker 1: we see the collapse of ISIS in places like a

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Speaker 1: rock in Syria, you're going to see a vacuum, and

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Speaker 1: that vacuum right now is most likely to be filled

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Speaker 1: by Shiite militia us UH, and so that would include

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Speaker 1: his BALLA, but also about twenty other groups, some of

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Speaker 1: whom are already identified as as terrorist organizations. Some of

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Speaker 1: them probably are not known to most people in the

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Speaker 1: United States or even the national security establishment. But what

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Speaker 1: we're hearing right now from the Trump administration is it

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Speaker 1: is time to push back on this. So you sort

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Speaker 1: of think about it in kind of historic terms. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had to defeat the Nazis first, but then came

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Speaker 1: the Cold War. This is what's about to happen in

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Speaker 1: Iraq and Syria that once ISIS is finally dislodged the

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Speaker 1: next challenge is going to be the Iran network, and

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Speaker 1: his Balla is going to play a huge role in that.

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Speaker 1: What can we what can the Trump administration do? What

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Speaker 1: should they do in order to counteract this phenomenon that's

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Speaker 1: happening right now of really chia extremist resurgence across the

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Speaker 1: Middle East. Well, this is the question that I think

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Speaker 1: everyone is asking now. And you know, obviously the sort

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Speaker 1: of Trump doctrine UH is about not putting boots on

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Speaker 1: the ground, not getting into expensive battles um and battles

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Speaker 1: that you can't win. But on the other hand, it's

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Speaker 1: not it's about not seeding ground to terror states like

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Speaker 1: like Iran. So what that means is unclear to me.

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a financial battle, no doubt

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Speaker 1: that we'll see sanctions start to ramp up. I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start to see more actions like we saw

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Speaker 1: with Nikki Haley at the United Nations. She was calling

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Speaker 1: out a different she eyed militia that's based in Yemen

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Speaker 1: called the Hoothies. She did that last week. I would

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Speaker 1: not be surprised to see more international coalition building U

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Speaker 1: with regard to his blah, I think we might even

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Speaker 1: see the air of States start to get more into

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Speaker 1: the act here and trying in terms of trying to

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Speaker 1: pressure his BA. But I do wonder what will happen

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Speaker 1: if and when these she eyed militias do take over

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Speaker 1: large swaths of Iraq and uh and and Syria. What

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Speaker 1: kinds of options will be left that you know, that

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Speaker 1: that preclude kinetic activities, that that that preclude military strikes.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not sure what that strategy might look like

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Speaker 1: a military strike X. And we we transitioned into this

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Speaker 1: just naturally because it's what's it's what's happening now with

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Speaker 1: these Shia Uh militants. You mentioned the Houthis in Yemen.

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Speaker 1: There was another missile, I mean, what was it? A

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago? Missile was fired towards re Aud International

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Speaker 1: Airport from Yemen. The Saudis I believe shot it down.

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Speaker 1: That was the report. And now I saw today another

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Speaker 1: missile fired. Now we don't have to worry about the

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Speaker 1: Saudia's engaging in air strikes against Yemen in response, because

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Speaker 1: they've engaging in a lot of air strikes against Yemen

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Speaker 1: for quite a while. But this seems like quite an

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Speaker 1: escalation because the Saudis are now coming out saying these

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Speaker 1: are Iranian missiles being fired at Saudi Arabia by proxy

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Speaker 1: of Iran a Shia Houthi militia in Yemen. That's right,

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Speaker 1: And and I will tell you this that what Nikki

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Speaker 1: Hilley said at that press conference where she was standing

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Speaker 1: in front of that Hoothie rocket that was supplied by Iran,

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Speaker 1: I think it's just the tip of the iceberg. Well,

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Speaker 1: we have heard from administration official is that, uh, that

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Speaker 1: Iran is crawling all over Yemen. And it's for this

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Speaker 1: reason that the Saudis have been uh so uh mobilized,

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Speaker 1: that the Maradis have been mobilized, the Bahrainis, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean really all the sunny golf are of states

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Speaker 1: have been outraged over this, and it's right in their backyard.

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Speaker 1: And so what's what's sort of remarkable here is that

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Speaker 1: what the hoofies are doing with Iranian help and training

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Speaker 1: is really what Hamas and his Palestinian Islamics you hawd,

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Speaker 1: have been doing to the Israelis for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So you see that they're taking a page out of

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Speaker 1: their own playbook and really wreaking havoc across the region.

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Speaker 1: And this is the real concern that the Trump administration has,

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Speaker 1: that Iran is expanding that through its proxy networks. It

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Speaker 1: is just lighting the Middle East on fire. And of course,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about how this happened, how

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Speaker 1: they're able to do it, a lot of people point

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Speaker 1: right back to that two thousand fifteen flawed nuclear deal

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Speaker 1: that gave Iran a hundred and fifth billion dollars to

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Speaker 1: start to fund its terrorist proxies around the region. One

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Speaker 1: more for you, Jonathan, before we let you go. How

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Speaker 1: realistic is the threat of an open declared war between

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia and Iran and the next eighteen months? I

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Speaker 1: think it's hard to put a percentage on it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: do you worry about it? Though? You know? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, you know, no one can predict the future.

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Speaker 1: But is that a real concern? Or are we still

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Speaker 1: is that? Is that too far off, too remote to

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Speaker 1: be a worry. It's it's far off. But I will

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Speaker 1: say this that we are on pace for a conflict.

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Speaker 1: In other words, the rhetoric that we're seeing out of

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, the responses that we're seeing out of Iran,

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Speaker 1: the the emboldened behavior of Iran in the sense that

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Speaker 1: they're willing to allow the Hoopies to fire their rockets

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Speaker 1: into Saudi airspace. This is the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: the Saudis will not will not suffer lightly. The only

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Speaker 1: question is how comfortable are they with their own military capabilities.

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Speaker 1: This is I think the only thing holding the South

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Speaker 1: East back, and I would argue that what they're doing

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Speaker 1: in Yemen right now is honing their skills. They're testing

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Speaker 1: their weapons, and they're gonna see how far they could

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Speaker 1: take it if they wanted to. Jonathan Schanzer is a

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Speaker 1: senior vice president the Foundation for Defensive Democracies. You can

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Speaker 1: check out all their research and publications at defend Democracy

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Speaker 1: dot org. Jonathan, always great to have you man, Happy holidays,

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Speaker 1: have a great new year. We'll talk to you in

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Speaker 1: sounds good. Thanks. Alright, team, we're gonna roll into a break,

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Speaker 1: we come back. Uh, We're gonna be switching gears a

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Speaker 1: lot in these last few days of shows. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about farmers and the challenges facing

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Speaker 1: American farm communities and skyrocketing rates of depression and suicide.

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Speaker 1: We've got an expert to weigh in on that. We'll

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Speaker 1: also talk about the surveillance state in China, and then

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Speaker 1: uh talk about universities, college universities. They're they're finally feeling

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Speaker 1: the heat from the fact that the public thinks that

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Speaker 1: they're not really doing a lot in the way of

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Speaker 1: educating sometimes and a whole lot of political indoctrination. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then we will get into Team Buck Speaks, which

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Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about the ways in which we can

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Speaker 1: come up with a new and exciting way to brand

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Speaker 1: that segment. So Big Third Hour coming up eight four

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Speaker 1: four eight to five, eight four four n Buck if

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Speaker 1: you'd like to call in, and for those of you

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Speaker 1: who are listening on either delay or if you're listening

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Speaker 1: on I on iTunes, Facebook, dot com, slash Buck Sexton

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01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: is a great way to let us know what you

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Speaker 1: think of the show, and also please tell your friends

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Speaker 1: back right after this break stay with me. The American

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Speaker 1: farmer is not often a focus of attention in our media,

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Speaker 1: but there is a growing problem among our farmers, and

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Speaker 1: it has to do with depression and suicide rates. Selena

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Speaker 1: Zito is a New York Post columnist and co author

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Speaker 1: of the upcoming book the Great Bolt inside the populist

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Speaker 1: Coalition reshaping American politics. She wrote a piece that really

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Speaker 1: caught my eye, why depression and suicide are rampant among

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Speaker 1: American farmers. I want to talk to you about it, Selena.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining. Thank you so much for having me. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know at this time of year for such a

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Speaker 1: serious and solemn peace, we're going to the holidays, But

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Speaker 1: I think that it's important topic, and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: take some time today to allow you to explain to

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Speaker 1: everybody what's happening with American farmers and how that impacts

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Speaker 1: American farm communities with with widespread depression, even more so

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Speaker 1: than in other high stress occupations. Yeah, so the the

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Speaker 1: study were actually behind because the study was conducted in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve by the CDC, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: released and the data was not released in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixteen, so and and and and based on the

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Speaker 1: view that I did with Dr Jeffrey Men he says,

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Speaker 1: it's only increased um since then. But the problem is

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Speaker 1: sort of multicaceted in that, uh farmers are more isolated,

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Speaker 1: uh farmers than a general population. Uh. They they were

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Speaker 1: there sort of their income is is not in control

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Speaker 1: by them. So no matter how hard they work, there's

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Speaker 1: is what they get and returned UM in terms of

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Speaker 1: their money is out of their control. It depends on commodities,

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Speaker 1: it depends on whether it depends on people's buying habits.

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Speaker 1: You know, all of that plays into it. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, there is a lot of uncertainty. And while

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Speaker 1: American people, I think generally understand that farmers are hard workers,

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Speaker 1: I think what they don't think about is the amount

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Speaker 1: of bureaucratic red tape and paperwork that is part of

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Speaker 1: not just like their yearly life, it's part of their

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Speaker 1: daily life. And you know, as I was visiting with

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Speaker 1: several farmers, you know, in Pennsylvania, in Ohio. I focused

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Speaker 1: on Wisconsin in the story, but you know, the stack

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Speaker 1: of paperwork that they have to do is astronomical. I mean,

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Speaker 1: farmers have to do this. This is new to me. Actually,

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Speaker 1: farmers have to do a lot of paperwork. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: lot of government paperwork UM in terms of saying UM

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Speaker 1: in compliance with the government, and it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: staggering when you think about it. Now, depression period is

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Speaker 1: up in the American um population, but it is more

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Speaker 1: so in rural areas and more even the most among farmers.

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Speaker 1: But what came the professions that came after farming work, construction, manufacturing, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, people that arked with their hands, and also

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Speaker 1: people that have been the most uncertain in the economy

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Speaker 1: since you know, I would argue since World War Two.

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Speaker 1: So in during World War two, sort of everyone was

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Speaker 1: on the same level playing field. A farmer or someone

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Speaker 1: who was making the steel for a battleship or a

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Speaker 1: tank or you know, contributing to the war effort. Everyone

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Speaker 1: was on the same playing field. You were as important

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Speaker 1: as the person in Washington and or New York then

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Speaker 1: if you were on a farm in Wisconsin, or if

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Speaker 1: you were working at a steel mill in Pittsburgh. But

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Speaker 1: after the sort of big boom of building um during

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Speaker 1: after post World War two, that began to separate. And

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Speaker 1: that is where this disconnect that we have seen across

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Speaker 1: the country really just started to inch forward, and we

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Speaker 1: we ignored it. We ignored it, then we ignored it

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Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties, and finally it caught up

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Speaker 1: with us beginning in two thousand and six, when we

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Speaker 1: started having these sort of wild fluctuating nit term elections

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Speaker 1: that you know, sort of peaked with a populoist election

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Speaker 1: of the president. We're speaking to Selena Zito about her

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Speaker 1: column the New York Post why depression and suicide are

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Speaker 1: rampant among American farmers, And you had a line in here, Selena,

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Speaker 1: that people should just be reminded of the farmers take

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Speaker 1: their lives more often than people in any other occupation

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Speaker 1: in the country, including the military. So that because we

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Speaker 1: you know, we we hear the terrible statistic about the

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Speaker 1: lives lost to suicide because of depression and PTSD on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, and the military community, we think farmers

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Speaker 1: take their lives more than people, including in the military,

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Speaker 1: on a per capita basis. That's just staggering. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I didn't even you know, when I first looked

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Speaker 1: at the doubt about about farmers, I was just stunned.

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Speaker 1: I think was eighty four point five out of per

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Speaker 1: one thousands, right, And I thought, Wow, that's crazy. And

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Speaker 1: then I started looking at the other occupations underneath it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, you know, they don't have military

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Speaker 1: built into this list. So I went over and looked

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Speaker 1: at the next of the latest studied by the v

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Speaker 1: a and almost it was like under, just under, just over,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember the number off the top of my head,

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Speaker 1: a half of the number of farmers. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing that doctor Men sort of pointed out to me

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Speaker 1: was that, you know, said, look, we don't always capture

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Speaker 1: all the suicides either. There's you know, people can haven't

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Speaker 1: you know, quote accident with their shotgun. They can have

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Speaker 1: an accident with one of their uh, you know, their

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Speaker 1: farming equipment, and you know that that could be as

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Speaker 1: you know, a sort of a suicide that that is

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Speaker 1: not even counted this plague that we're talking about here

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Speaker 1: of depression and suicide among farmers and in the farming community.

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Speaker 1: What can be done to alleviate this? Or what are

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Speaker 1: is this? Ah? Is there a policy issue here that

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Speaker 1: could be addressed out of d C? Is there is

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Speaker 1: this just a function of you know, big agra and

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Speaker 1: mechanized farming and the slow extinction of the individual family

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Speaker 1: owned farm. I mean, what are the dynamics you that

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Speaker 1: could be addressed to fix what's going on? Actually this

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Speaker 1: this is also a number that really really strugged me,

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Speaker 1: the number of people. There's a number of farms in

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Speaker 1: this country. Seven percent of them are owned by farming families.

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Speaker 1: So the family farm is still alive. And well, it's

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Speaker 1: the disconnect in our culture and our society that is

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Speaker 1: the biggest plague. And and you know it's it's not

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Speaker 1: any different. And the conversations that I've had with you

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Speaker 1: on on this show about people in uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: in the rest bell or in small towns or in

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Speaker 1: even midside towns where culture has separated in those towns

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Speaker 1: from the sort of popular culture of our society which

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Speaker 1: comes out of places like New York and in Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and and and Washington, d C. And And that disconnect

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Speaker 1: like those you know, like the other people that are

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Speaker 1: feel disconnected from society, it is just even more pronounced

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Speaker 1: in the farming community. And the other thing is is

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Speaker 1: that so it used to be that churches and and

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Speaker 1: you know, community centers were the hub of farming communities.

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Speaker 1: What's that is not so much the case anymore. And

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Speaker 1: what's replaced it is local sports, you know, high school sports.

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Speaker 1: And while you know, sharing for your team is wonderful

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Speaker 1: and you know, great in the center prize, but that

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Speaker 1: doesn't give you the same sense of community and that

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Speaker 1: church does. And and the doctor men pointed out to

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Speaker 1: me because there's a lot of He's in the Driftless

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Speaker 1: area and western Wisconsin. He says, you know, we have

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Speaker 1: a large Amish community here. And he said, in his

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Speaker 1: thirty seven years of practice, he's only seen one suicide

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Speaker 1: among the Amish. And I said, well, why is it

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Speaker 1: because they're so clannish. There's no because they believe in

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Speaker 1: God and they know you're not going to get to

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Speaker 1: God if you get rid of yourself, and you know,

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Speaker 1: there's that sense that you have to you have to

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Speaker 1: be accountable for your actions. And the other thing he

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Speaker 1: says that the Amish are really good at doing is neighboring.

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Speaker 1: They close their businesses up early on Thursday and they

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Speaker 1: go out and they just go and visit with other

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Speaker 1: members of the community. Communities are really really big part

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Speaker 1: of this. Then we have to leave it there for

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Speaker 1: this time around. But I would really encourage everybody to

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Speaker 1: check out her peace on the New York Poach Why

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Speaker 1: to Pressure in suicide rampant among American farmers, and also

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Speaker 1: her upcoming book, The Great Revolt Inside the Populust Coalition,

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Speaker 1: Reshaping American Politics. Selena Zito, Great to have you back, Soluna.

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Speaker 1: Thank you thanks so much for having me. We didn't

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Speaker 1: even get to talk about the fact that my understanding

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01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 1: is John Deer Corporation has made tens of billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars of loans to farmers so that they can keep

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: buying mechanized equipment. Those are loans they will never be

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Speaker 1: able to pay back, and it keeps getting deeper and deeper.

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Speaker 1: That whole something to talk about for another time. UM.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna switch gears here though, in just a moment,

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Speaker 1: so when we come back, I'm gonna talk to you

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01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 1: about China instead of American farmers. What's going on with

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Speaker 1: the surveillance state there. Fascinating stuff. Stay with me. North

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01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: Korea gets a lot of attention from the news media

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Speaker 1: these days. I feel like we haven't spoken about China

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01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: in some time, except with regard to trade deals, bad

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Speaker 1: trade deals. We're not focused at all. And what I

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Speaker 1: mean we I mean the news media and those in

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Speaker 1: this country that are paying attention to these kinds of things.

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Speaker 1: We're not focused on the expansion into the South China

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Speaker 1: Sea that Beijing has been engaged in for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: We are not looking at internal dynamics in China from

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Speaker 1: a political political and security perspective that could have enormous

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Speaker 1: implications for its economic future. I mean, I remember, and

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Speaker 1: I just always have to keep this in mind to

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Speaker 1: try and put the Chinese expansion and growth miracle into

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Speaker 1: a realistic context. I remember in the nineties, in the

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Speaker 1: early nineties, there was a fear in this country that

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Speaker 1: the Japanese were going to overtake us economically, buy up

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Speaker 1: all kinds of US landing corporations, and would effectively control us.

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Speaker 1: And this was a kind of limited xenophobia, really, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was I think well exaggerated at the time, but nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: right now, we know that the only near peer civilizational

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Speaker 1: competitor to the United States is China, and we should

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on what's going on internally in that

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Speaker 1: country so that we can understand the policies that we

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Speaker 1: do focus on, like trade and Trump talking about getting

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Speaker 1: better trade deals with shijin Ping. But I saw this

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Speaker 1: piece in the Wall Street Journal Twelve Days in Shinjiang,

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Speaker 1: how China's surveillance state overwhelms daily life, and I would

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01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: really recommend it to all of you. It is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: It's by Josh Chin and Clement Burge, and this piece

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01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: was incredible. It talks about Shinjiang Province mostly, which for

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Speaker 1: those who don't know, Shinjiang is if you're in China

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01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 1: and you're looking at the map of China and you

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01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: go to the far west of the country where it

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01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: borders Kazakhstan, that's Shinjiang Province, and it's where you find

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Speaker 1: the ethnic minority known as the Weaker's and the Wagers

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01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: are of high security interest to the Chinese government because

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01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: they are Muslims and they do not fit in with

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01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 1: the cultural dictates and and political uh dictates that come

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Speaker 1: along with it from the Communist Party in Beijing. There

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: have been some terrorist attacks in recent years, nothing on

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: the scale of a nine eleven, but mass stabbings most notably.

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01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: And the Chinese government is well already it's a police state,

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01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: but even for a police that, they have cracked down tremendously,

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Speaker 1: and this piece Twelve Days in Shinjang gives you a

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Speaker 1: sense of just how thorough and yes truly orwelly in

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Speaker 1: that crackdown is. For example, these these two journalists who

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Speaker 1: are traveling around talk about the ways that the Chinese

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01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 1: authorities tried to monitor people in this province, and it's

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01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: just endless. You have location trackers on that are mandatory

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01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: on all commercial vehicles. Irish scanners and other advanced I

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: D technology are used at a lot of checkpoints. They

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01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 1: use voice pattern analysis at checkpoints and in other security

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01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: measures as well. The police carry around smartphone scanners that

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01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: can look over your smartphone to try to see if

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01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: you have any encrypted in apps or or any content

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01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: that they find problematic, right if you have videos that

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01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 1: are forbidden. We often I think, loose sight of the

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01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: fact that short China is nowhere near as bad as

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01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: North Korea. But it is a police state and it

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01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: is absolutely not a place where individuals have any rights. Uh,

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01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: and it has much better technology and much greater resources

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01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: to monitor. Obviously, it's tremendous, tremendously large citizenry than North

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01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: Korea does at least better technology. When you start to

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01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: expand out Chinese surveillance efforts over a billion or so

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01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 1: people versus the thirty million or so North Korea. I

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01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know how much technology can make up for when

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01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: dealing with a mass of that size, but anyway, the

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01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Chinese are on lockdown in Shinjiang Province, and like I said,

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01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 1: smartphone scanners They have I D scanners that police carry

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01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: around with them, and this was the one that that

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01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: I found particularly fascinating. If you buy a knife, they

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01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: market with a QR code, any knife, butcher knife, chef knife,

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01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: a QR code that includes your I D number and

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01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:21,959
Speaker 1: other personal information. They do I D stamping four knives.

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01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind the next time. So on,

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01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: this is what are they're gonna do bend knives next? Well,

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01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: they may not ban them in this country, but they

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01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,679
Speaker 1: they may. You know, we could get to a place

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01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 1: where the government's gonna know who every knife belongs to.

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01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: And the Chinese are already doing that at least in

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01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: Shinjang Province. Now you may be wondering, okay, well, why

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01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: do the Chinese care so much about what happens with

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01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 1: only about a population of oh what, it's about thirty

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01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 1: thirty million or so weagers. Remember those are ethnic Muslims

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01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: who are out in the step in the western part

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01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: of China along the border like I said, with with

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01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: Kazakhstan and Mongolia, and it goes up into where you

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01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, India to the kind of southwest. So it's

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01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: in the far really northwestern corner of China, And the

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01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: part of this that gets the Chinese attention is, yes,

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01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: you have this restive Muslim separatist movement, and there are

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01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:31,679
Speaker 1: there have been weaker terrorist attacks as I mentioned. And

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01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 1: then there's also the hope that jin Ping has to

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01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 1: re establish a massive trade route really using the old

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01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: ancient spice roots dating back to the days of Marco Polo,

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01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: that would go west overland through China through the stands

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01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: to Europe. And given the advances in high speed rail

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01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: and better road technology and everything else, this is a

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01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 1: dream that Si jin Ping has for the future. They're

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01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 1: saying that he's going to invest trillion. He wants the

1554
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Chinese government to invest a trillion dollars in this initiative.

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01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: But that passageway goes right through Xinjiang Province and it's

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01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 1: ethnic Muslim minority, so that's why the Chinese have it

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01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: so on lockdown. And then you also odd into it

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01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the other disparate identity sensibilities inside of China, which we

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01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: think of China's monolithic, but there are other groups in

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01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: China that are not Han Chinese and do not necessarily

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01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: like the way the central government is treating them or

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01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 1: or views their role in the future of China. Any

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01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: separatist movement in China is considered a threat to Chinese

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01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: territorial integrity. And you can imagine how upset they get

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01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: over Taiwan, which they have not controlled in many decades. Uh,

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01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: if they actually had Chinese mainland territory that tried to succede,

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01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: it would be a well, who knows where that would go,

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01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: would be a nightmare for them. But the real point

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01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,920
Speaker 1: here that I want to make is just that the

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01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: Chinese we are seeing a full spectrum and advanced right.

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01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: This is a difference with with what North Korea has.

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01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: Although you probably saw the North Korea now is being

1573
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: blamed for the recent global rant, a recent global ransomware attack.

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01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: That's pretty advanced stuff. But the Chinese are taking their resources,

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01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: their technology and creating a totalitarian surveillance state that is

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01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: way beyond anything we've seen anywhere else in the past.

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01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: And it's it's gonna have some Like I said, we

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01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: don't know what it means for the future, but we

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01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: know it's gonna mean something. So I just like to

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01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: keep an eye on these things. I do recommend if

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01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: you have a chance, just read this piece. Twelve twelve

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01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: days in Shinjiang in the Wall Street Journal. All right, team,

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01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,000
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about colleges. I'm gonna

1584
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: make fun of them a little bit. You'll like that.

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01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 1: Stay with me. As a general rule, I don't like

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01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: to take any pleasure in the misery and downfall of others.

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01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: But I think that colleges and universities, they could be

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01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 1: taken down a few pigs, would probably be a good

1589
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: thing for the Harvards and Yales of the world to

1590
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 1: have to deal a bit more in reality. And that's

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01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,599
Speaker 1: what I saw some glimmer of in this piece in

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01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: Politico on education, and it's basically pulling together a bunch

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01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: of different university presidents who are saying, well, I've been

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01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: blood sided or they've been blindsided. And their concern is that,

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01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: well is several. First of all, that people start to

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01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: think that these looney left wing institutions that have in

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01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 1: some cases, and I do not exaggerate because it was

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01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: the case at my own college Amherst, more socialists and

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01:34:55,439 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 1: self described communists on the faculty than open Republicans. That

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01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: the public has caught onto this and this is problematic,

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01:35:05,040 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and their lack of intellectual diversity and their complete devotion

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01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:17,200
Speaker 1: to all other kinds of diversity, primarily racial, but also

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01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: uh gender diversity, not just meaning male and female. As

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01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, there are now twenty seven genders that are

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01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: on offer at Harvard for incoming first years. Not freshman.

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01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: You can fish me me, and I think you bac

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01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: sineing me and like fish man, not even fish woomy,

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01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:40,719
Speaker 1: it's a fish person, but even person who confuses student

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01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: limitation of the full fulfillment of the self. This is

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01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I could actually just quote

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01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 1: that and put it in some kind of doctoral thesis

1612
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: on the on gender studies in seen and I would

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01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: probably get a pretty decent grade because it is nonsense,

1614
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: and they're teaching nonsense, and they've been come factories that

1615
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:08,760
Speaker 1: are churning out uh dogmatic progressives who don't really understand

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 1: not only the history of their own arguments, they have

1617
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: no real understanding of the origins of American progressivism. It's

1618
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 1: amazing how many smug and smarmy liberals come right out

1619
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: of college and right out of university and don't have

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01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 1: the faintest idea of the origins of these beliefs that

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01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,320
Speaker 1: they have. They just know that that's what smart people think.

1622
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: You know, what do they know about climate change? That's

1623
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 1: what smart people think. Why are they pro choice? Because

1624
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: that's what smart people say. You know, they don't understand

1625
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 1: the basics. They don't understand the history because they're not

1626
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 1: taught it and they don't care to learn. They also

1627
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 1: certainly don't understand the arguments from the other side. But

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:58,560
Speaker 1: this political piece gets even beyond the concerns over the

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01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: lack of continued institutional reverence that these universities are. You know,

1630
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,320
Speaker 1: they're worried that it's slipping away. Often in the Trump era,

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01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:15,520
Speaker 1: one of the big discussions has been, well, he's eroding

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01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: support for institutions, or he's he's undermining our hallowed institutions,

1633
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: whether it's democracy or the FBI or the intel community

1634
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:27,879
Speaker 1: or the judiciary or whatever. We're also seeing a change

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01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: in perceptions about university level college level education, and we

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01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:38,440
Speaker 1: should because they are ideologically diverse, and it's an embarrassment.

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01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 1: The product isn't worth the price, and any study of

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01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: what it costs to go to college thirty years ago

1639
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 1: and I mean to go to Harvard thirty years ago,

1640
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: versus what it costs to go to Harvard today in

1641
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: terms of how many hours. Here's a good way to

1642
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: gauge at how many hours would you have had to

1643
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:01,879
Speaker 1: work at a minimum wage job or summer jobs in

1644
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties versus how many hours you'd have to

1645
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: work at a minimum wage or low wage job today.

1646
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: And it goes from yeah, you're you could pay off

1647
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: your college loans pretty quickly. You could even save up

1648
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: by working a job and pay off school while you

1649
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: were in school, too. You're gonna be working a minimum

1650
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 1: wage job for the next hundred years and not pay

1651
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: off your loans. I mean, it's just insane how expensive

1652
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,560
Speaker 1: these schools are. I mean, the top tier is basically

1653
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: fifty thou dollars a year now in tuition for four years.

1654
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. And some of these places,

1655
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: because they realize that the costs are just out of control,

1656
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: have taken to offering a lot of need blind full

1657
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: tuition UH scholarships, which on its face is a is

1658
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: a good thing. I mean, I'm happy that anybody who

1659
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: qualifies can go. But keep in mind that there are

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01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,560
Speaker 1: a lot of families that are middle class families that

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01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: are safe ving up money, and especially if they don't

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01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 1: fit into a protected category. If they're just like a

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01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 1: white middle class kid from the Midwest and they want

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01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: to go to Harvard, you know, they got to take

1665
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 1: out loans. So that creates an interesting dynamic, doesn't it.

1666
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: And maybe the family saved twenty or thirty grand for college,

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01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 1: but the rest of it's on loans and on that

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01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 1: student to pay. So you know, there's a lot of

1669
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 1: issues with that as well. But what I think is

1670
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: is fascinating is that they also now realize that they're

1671
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: not these standalone institutions that don't have any government largees whatsoever.

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01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 1: The change in the tax code that we're seeing right

1673
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: now could impact some of the very biggest schools endowments.

1674
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, any changes as have been

1675
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 1: discussed to the way that individuals can deduct charitable giving

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01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: to college and universities that also would have an enormous

1677
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: impact on these schools bottom lines. Remember, you get to

1678
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: give to a university which is a leftist indoctrination factory,

1679
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:16,639
Speaker 1: and get to write that off as charitable giving when

1680
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: these institutions are paying certainly bureaucrats that administrators pretty fat

1681
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 1: cat salaries and have amazing benefits and advantages for being

1682
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: involved in the institution, for being paid by it, and

1683
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: the tax code awards them, and that doesn't have to

1684
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 1: stay that way. Look, I don't have the time to

1685
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 1: get into it in full detail today, but it is

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01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: it is time now for a radical rethink of the

1687
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 1: four year undergraduate degree as some kind of necessary step

1688
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: in becoming a functioning and economically competitive adult in this country. Which, look,

1689
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: I know that's not true. There are plenty of you

1690
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 1: listening are high school and grads or didn't even finish

1691
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 1: high school and have gone on to very successful careers.

1692
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 1: But that's the point. Colleges create this atmosphere where they

1693
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 1: try to convince everybody, oh, you have to go to

1694
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:15,719
Speaker 1: a four year school, and a lot of people get

1695
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,320
Speaker 1: caught up in that, and we just need to as

1696
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 1: a as a culture, as a society, move away from this.

1697
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:27,600
Speaker 1: We don't need everybody spending four years studying English. Uh.

1698
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: We would be much better off, I think, first of all,

1699
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: taking a gap year for everybody, maybe two to work

1700
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 1: to serve, uh, to just grow up a bit, and

1701
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,639
Speaker 1: then maybe two years of school and then a third

1702
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: if necessary for certain degrees or majors. But condensing the

1703
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,719
Speaker 1: four years into two. I've got all kinds of ideas

1704
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 1: about this. The current system is problematic politically, and also

1705
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: with a trillion dollars of outstanding student loan debt, it

1706
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: is not sustainable, and the colleges, the universities are figuring

1707
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: this out. All right, we'll come back with Team Bucks

1708
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,400
Speaker 1: Speaks right after this break. I can't believe that we

1709
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:10,280
Speaker 1: are three days away from our last live show here

1710
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 1: in the Freedom Hunt of twenty seventeen. I'm gonna try

1711
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 1: to save the sappy, nostalgic stuff for Friday, but get

1712
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: ready for that because it's coming. Team. But I'm amazed

1713
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: at how quickly this period has gone by. I was

1714
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: speaking to some of the folks I work with behind

1715
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: the scenes here on radio earlier this week, and they

1716
01:42:34,160 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: kept saying, well, you know now that we have our

1717
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 1: first year pretty much in the books, and I'm like,

1718
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: it's been a year. It's amazing when I think about it,

1719
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: and and then I go back to I've been in

1720
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:50,679
Speaker 1: media since twenty eleven, so it will be my seventh

1721
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: year in the media business coming up in well technically

1722
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 1: in June, but in this new year, and yeah, time

1723
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: is flying. But I will, Like I said, hold off

1724
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: on sending you all big high fives and hugs, whichever

1725
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: you prefer. In this day and age, I feel like

1726
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: we all have to ask, right, Team, I can't. I

1727
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: can't just assume that we can hug it out. We

1728
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: might only be allowed to do high fives. Uh, and

1729
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 1: and that's whichever you prefer, is fine. Had this situation

1730
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 1: a few times. I have some very dear friends in

1731
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 1: the media business, including a bunch at Fox News, And

1732
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: when I've been over there and seeing them in the

1733
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 1: hallway once or twice, you've gone, uh, can we because

1734
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 1: we've been hugging each other for years When we see

1735
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: each other and it's now Christmas, hug is that okay?

1736
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, have a great holiday? And the answer has

1737
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 1: always been yes. But we we have to laugh because,

1738
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, the boundaries feel like they're being a little

1739
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,240
Speaker 1: bit redrawn. So you can take a high five or

1740
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 1: a hug, or just you know, a cool, nonchalant thumbs up,

1741
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, thumbs up. Team. But anyway, we'll get more

1742
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: into that on on Friday. Team Buck Speaks is up. Now.

1743
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you like the name Team Buck

1744
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Speaks team or should I think about changing it up.

1745
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: I was toying with the possibility of it maybe being,

1746
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, Team Buck Lights it Up or something like that.

1747
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about it. You know, I want to

1748
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: make sure that this branded segment of the show where

1749
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: it's really all of you carrying the carrying the content load.

1750
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: Um that you think it's a it sounds appropriate to

1751
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,679
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do here. So I thought about

1752
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 1: Team Buck Muster, but sounds too much like like mustard

1753
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,920
Speaker 1: on the radio. Like I'm telling you all that this

1754
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 1: is where we discuss yellow condiments for sausages and hot

1755
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: dogs and hamburgers. Right, Team Buck Muster. I know you

1756
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: know what must means, but it doesn't really translate on

1757
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 1: radio all that. Well, Uh, Team Buck Assemble. That would

1758
01:44:58,320 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: be strange because it's at the end of the show.

1759
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: So to yell out assemble now go home. You know,

1760
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 1: it's like a weird game, as Simon says. So anyway,

1761
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: here's here's what we got on Team Buck Speaks for now.

1762
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 1: This one from Jeff. Hey. Buck just want to offer

1763
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: a merry Christmas to all three of you who make

1764
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show the best radio show out there

1765
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 1: and miss Molly. I am oss original Saturday Squad and

1766
01:45:23,880 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: a former fellow former Intel analyst. I used to download

1767
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 1: your show way back when and would listen to it

1768
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 1: on the drive to work from when you were on Saturday's.

1769
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Still pretty much listen every day to the podcast now

1770
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 1: looking forward to the History show. Sounds like Battle of

1771
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: Hastings should be a great candidate for the show. Just

1772
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,799
Speaker 1: as a side note, I heard you say on Monday's

1773
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: podcast that you have to entertain Miss Molly over the holidays.

1774
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: If I may offer a suggestion from someone who will

1775
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: be very happily married for twenty three years, I would

1776
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: phrase it I I'm lucky that I get to entertain

1777
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 1: Miss Molly over the holiday season. Just a suggestion. I

1778
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: look forward to everything you guys produced in the coming year.

1779
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 1: Shields High Well, thank you so much. Jeff much obliged

1780
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 1: to have you with me from the original Saturday Show.

1781
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a great here in the Freedom Hunt.

1782
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 1: That much I can assure you of. Uh t J

1783
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 1: writes in with the following buck perch is not a

1784
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 1: junk fish. I'd take a bucket full of perch over

1785
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: bass anytime to eat. They grow perch like football's up

1786
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: in the glacial lakes of so dak South Dakota. I

1787
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: guess uh, okay, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend

1788
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:53,760
Speaker 1: the perch eating community. I just have a particular fondness

1789
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 1: for landing a big bass. And maybe I'll try to

1790
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 1: post some of those photos. I think the best ones

1791
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 1: are actually my little brother, you know, holding up a

1792
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: fish that we used to call a crappy, which I'm

1793
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 1: sure is not actually what it's called, but crappy and

1794
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: perch and bass. And I remember going fishing with my

1795
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: dad up in Minnesota, and that was when I was

1796
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 1: introduced to pike and muskie. And while I and all

1797
01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: that good stuff, musca lunch. So okay, perch is good

1798
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 1: for eating. I stand corrected on that, And thank you

1799
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: t J and Merry Christmas to you. Thank you for

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01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 1: writing in Josh with the following don't change a thing, Buck.

1801
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 1: Your show has quickly become my favorite talk show period.

1802
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 1: I have listened to Rush, Limball and many others over

1803
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: the years, but your humble, light, courteous manner, combined with

1804
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: excellent analysis, make this the most enjoyable and informative show

1805
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 1: on the air. Not just politics but it's a show

1806
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: about so many things, and primarily about policies. I love

1807
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:07,759
Speaker 1: the practical, not theoretical takes to issues, particular on national security. Well, Josh,

1808
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 1: thank you so much for the kind words about the show.

1809
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: Means a lot, and I am deeply gratified that you

1810
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: enjoy all the research and an effort that I put

1811
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 1: into this, So thank you. Joe is next up on

1812
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: Team Buck Speaks. Meat, bacon, chocolate, whole milk, and French fries.

1813
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Sounds like a list of virtues and the majority of

1814
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 1: my diet. Joe, You're not the only one. Buddy, me too.

1815
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Squirt is a very tasty grapefruit pop. You should give

1816
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: it a try. Feel free to share this with the

1817
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 1: rest of the Team Buck and Shields High. Well, Joe, Yeah,

1818
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: I think those are my food weaknesses. Meat, bacon, chocolate,

1819
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 1: whole milk, and French fries. Those are the things that

1820
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 1: I should probably try to limit my intake of, but

1821
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm not really capable of limiting it, so I just

1822
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: deal or or or or I'm not successful in limiting

1823
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: it as much as I should. Somebody asked me that recently,

1824
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: if you had to give up chocolate or any form

1825
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: of potato, So that's not just French fries, but sweet potato,

1826
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 1: all potato, what would it be? And my roughly Irish

1827
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: heritage was like, you give up that chocolate, lad, And

1828
01:49:23,960 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. It's a tough call.

1829
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: It's a tough call. Uh Bo writes in with the following,

1830
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: Hey Buck, what is the chance of getting Tyrone's opinion

1831
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 1: of the committee's BCS playoff choices in particular Alabama versus

1832
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State or Wisconsin shield Hie and Roll tied? Well,

1833
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: why don't we say this Tyrone tomorrow? Uh let us

1834
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 1: know what you think. Will close out the show and

1835
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:56,400
Speaker 1: we'll get Tyrone's opinion during Team Buck speaks then, because

1836
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 1: I got them working on something right now on what's

1837
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: going on with the BCS playoff choices? James with the

1838
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 1: next one, Hey Buck, love listening to your show. I'm

1839
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 1: looking forward to the history podcast talking about terrorists attacking

1840
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: trains in World War Two. Nazi Germany tried to attack

1841
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: the Horseshoe Curve in Blair County, Pennsylvania during the war.

1842
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: It was a very important rail still is to this day.

1843
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, James, I will have to check that out. Uh,

1844
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 1: and I think that's where we're gonna have to. Oh wait, no,

1845
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 1: we got one more from Mikey here, Hey Buck and

1846
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:37,400
Speaker 1: Team Buck. This is gonna be a bit out of

1847
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,559
Speaker 1: the park. So I just received orders to Korea and

1848
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: follow on to Germany. For the first time in my

1849
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 1: three decades of life, I'll be experiencing a winter from Texas.

1850
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: My question is leather jackets, not the biker kind or anything,

1851
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,640
Speaker 1: but what am I looking for in a jacket in

1852
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 1: terms of general price range, for quality and where to

1853
01:50:57,080 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: look where I'm currently stationed. I haven't felt below in

1854
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 1: over two years. Any help appreciated, Well, Mikey, I feel

1855
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 1: like this is kind of a climate humble brag you're

1856
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 1: pulling off here with Well, I've never had to deal

1857
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: with the winter, which I can appreciate. I can't say

1858
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: that I know all that much about leather jackets. I

1859
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: don't own one. Now that I think about it, I

1860
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: can tell you that my father, uh Mason, also known

1861
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 1: as speed Sexton, is a leather jacket connoisseur and has

1862
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,320
Speaker 1: been for as long as I've been alive. So I

1863
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: will pose the question to Dad. I'll ask him what

1864
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:35,840
Speaker 1: is the best leather jacket for the money that you

1865
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: can get these days, and I'm sure he will have

1866
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: an excellent answer for me and Mikey. I will write

1867
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,840
Speaker 1: it to you via Facebook. Alright, team, Like I said,

1868
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: only a few days before we take our holiday breaks,

1869
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 1: so be sure to join us every day this week.

1870
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Download that podcast, get in the queue so that the

1871
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: History Show will pop up automatically starting in January in

1872
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: iTunes or on the I Heart app. I have a

1873
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: fantas stick. Rest of your evening or day until next time.

1874
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas and She'll tie