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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague

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Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at Lambeau Field and West We are here to talk

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Speaker 1: about another Packers victory. I think the phrase game of

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Speaker 1: inches originally was attached to the game of baseball, but

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Speaker 1: there are days it applies to football, and it certainly

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Speaker 1: did on Sunday at Lambeau the Packers stopping Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: inches shy of the goal line to preserve a twenty

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Speaker 1: four to sixteen victory, right down to the final play.

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Speaker 1: My friend, yeah, it was something else to watch and

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Speaker 1: you know, talking to guys in the locker room about

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Speaker 1: it afterwards, the snow is coming down. Jamal Williams said

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Speaker 1: that line about he felt like he was in Frozen too.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, it's just this is what this team

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Speaker 1: has done so well, and I know you can look

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Speaker 1: at it defensively and be like, there were too many

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Speaker 1: yards again, you know, there's too many times where you

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Speaker 1: know they were able to convert. But man of life,

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Speaker 1: when they get down to the nitty gritty, gotta have

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Speaker 1: the moments this defense finds a way, and they did

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Speaker 1: it once again. And in watching that play, and I

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Speaker 1: wrote an entire story about it for our Locker Report

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Speaker 1: to see how that played out. I mean, Mike Patton's

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Speaker 1: keeping his dime personnel on the field there two yards

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Speaker 1: away from the end zone, and Truman Williams said it.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these guys said it. They didn't know

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Speaker 1: if it's gonna runner past, but they knew the ball

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Speaker 1: was going to Christian McCaffrey. That's the MVP candidate for

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. That's the guy you want to have the football.

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Speaker 1: And the Packers with Kyler Facro being readjusted moments before

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Speaker 1: the play is snapped and he breaks through and get

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Speaker 1: some you know, hesitation the backfield from McCaffrey and then

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Speaker 1: press the smith a two sack performance day makes that

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Speaker 1: final tackle, and despite Greg Van Rowton's best efforts trying

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Speaker 1: to pull McCaffrey into the end zone illegally, I might add,

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Speaker 1: the Packers hold their grounds and are eight and two

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Speaker 1: going to the bye week. What a start. Well, you

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Speaker 1: and I both were thinking in the press box four

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Speaker 1: seconds left final play. You and I were both thinking run.

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Speaker 1: I actually thought the Panthers might try to cross the

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Speaker 1: Packers up and do a quarterback draw with their rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 1: because as you say, the Packers were in the dime defense.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like they were in a goal line set

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Speaker 1: up front. But they went with their guy McCaffrey. You

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Speaker 1: can't fault him on the call. And uh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: even really setting their stances as the ball is snapped.

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Speaker 1: But Factor was able to slip the block from Van Rotten,

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Speaker 1: which is why he ends up trying to drag McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: into the end zone because he missed his block on

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Speaker 1: the play, and Preston Smith comes crashing from the other side.

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Speaker 1: They don't block him on the back side. He comes

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Speaker 1: crashing into to get there, and then Blake Martinez is

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Speaker 1: there to try to, you know, keep that surge from

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Speaker 1: getting across the goal line. Just an incredible finish. As

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Speaker 1: you said, the scene with the snow falling at Lambo

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Speaker 1: kind of that snow globe scene. It only still early November,

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Speaker 1: not even really mid November, just yet early for that,

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Speaker 1: but uh, but quite the scene and the Packers at

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. We'll talk about this a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: They got a big win down in Dallas on the

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Speaker 1: road to stay one game behind the Packers. But you

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Speaker 1: said it West. This defense, somehow, more often than not

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Speaker 1: this year, when the unit's back is up against the wall,

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Speaker 1: they find a way the end zone interceptions that we've

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Speaker 1: seen in crucial moments this year. Yesterday basically two stops

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Speaker 1: at the end zone. You get one interception in the

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Speaker 1: third quarter in the end zone that takes points off

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Speaker 1: the board for the Panthers, and then you get the

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Speaker 1: stup at the end of the game. Yeah, this defense

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Speaker 1: still has a lot to work on, but but boy

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Speaker 1: they are Um they're right in a story of clutch

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Speaker 1: plays in nineteen. Yeah, and Kenny Clark, a guy that

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Speaker 1: I don't think you look at his box score, I

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Speaker 1: he had with four tackles. I mean, he was much

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Speaker 1: more effective than that. Showed the same thing for Zadarius Smith, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question. Talking to Clark in the locker room efforts,

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Speaker 1: he said, I mean this is an emotional way to play.

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Speaker 1: It's a dangerous way to play, and they don't want

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Speaker 1: to play that the entire season. But that being said,

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Speaker 1: you have to look at it where the last you know,

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Speaker 1: sixteen points allowed Carolina. You can move the ball as

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Speaker 1: much as you want. No game in NFL history has

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Speaker 1: a tiebreaker. So for them to be able to come

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Speaker 1: You and I've talked about it in here before. But

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Speaker 1: the other thing I think, you know, you're gonna look

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Speaker 1: at this game, You're gonna see that the Panthers have

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Speaker 1: fourner one total yards. What doesn't really tell you the

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Speaker 1: story there is, by the traditional definition, the Packers did

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Speaker 1: not allow an explosive play to Christian McCaffrey. I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a big difference in this game. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: had a hundred yards rushing, he had thirty some odd

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Speaker 1: yards receiving, but he didn't have that breakaway moment that

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Speaker 1: can be backbreaking that has allowed the Panthers to win

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Speaker 1: a lot of these games. Yeah, you never felt like

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was the guy controlling the game, which is

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Speaker 1: what he has done in a lot of the games

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Speaker 1: that the Panthers have won this year. Yeah, And regardless

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Speaker 1: of whether or not was the base personnel or whether

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Speaker 1: or not I was that dime personnel in the final stage,

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Speaker 1: when the Packers were between the hashes, really on both

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Speaker 1: sides of the ball, they won this football game. They

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Speaker 1: did it offensively. Aaron Jones another three touchdown performance, first

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Speaker 1: time that's been accomplished in a single season since nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty two with the great Jim Taylor. Him and Jamal

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Speaker 1: And when the Packers were largely successful, and you and

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Speaker 1: I talked about this after the game. There were a

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Speaker 1: few moments where McCaffrey slipped out, but for the most part,

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Speaker 1: when Carolina tried to play the rough and tough nor

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Speaker 1: the south football, the Packers won those battles. And that

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Speaker 1: able to make some critical stops at important junctions of

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Speaker 1: that game. Well, that final drive, as I wrote about

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Speaker 1: full of all kinds of ebbs and flows. Emotionally, ended

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Speaker 1: up being eighteen plays in all the Panthers started at

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Speaker 1: their eleven yard line. They get credit for eighty eight yards,

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Speaker 1: But you look at that final drive. JayR Alexander has

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Speaker 1: get pressure on Kyle Allen. You're thinking, okay, this is it,

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Speaker 1: at Preston Smith is flagg for offside. So there's eight

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Speaker 1: of that, And that was the phrase that Matt Lafleur

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Speaker 1: it's life in the NFL. It's a roller coaster ride,

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Speaker 1: and and that's what that final drive was. And you know,

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Speaker 1: just credit to the Packers. I mean, it's one of

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Speaker 1: still need to get the two point conversion. And the

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Speaker 1: down to the two point play. Yeah, it was funny too.

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Speaker 1: I was asking Kenny Clark about this after the game

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Speaker 1: see on that play that you know you almost had

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Speaker 1: Alan He's like, well, which one are you talking? Because

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Speaker 1: there was so many instances in Saidarius Smith talked about

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Speaker 1: it too. Smith estimate. He's like, I might have had

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Speaker 1: to see when Pro Football Focus gets done with this

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Speaker 1: because he was so elusive. Jimmy Graham said afterwards, it

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Speaker 1: was like he was doing some Ben Roethlisberger's stuff out there.

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Speaker 1: Truman Williams said, it was like Harrison Wentz the way

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Speaker 1: he showed a lot of poise and you know, three

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Speaker 1: interception nearly two years in the end zone off of

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Speaker 1: one could have ended everything. He had nothing but daylight

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Speaker 1: you had to come back, You had to persevere. The

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Speaker 1: off a penalty on that series, so many things. You know,

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Speaker 1: that offsides call that he got flagged for. He flint

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Speaker 1: He flinched, and there's a question as to whether he

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Speaker 1: the game. But the flag gives UH the Panthers new

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Speaker 1: life and UH and the Packers have to come up

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Speaker 1: with another stop to win that. But that's what adversity

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Speaker 1: have been pretty good in that area this year. Adversity

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Speaker 1: important critical to the overall success of a team. This

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Speaker 1: Ibraham Campbell back. I thought they looked better in their rotations.

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Speaker 1: There were some yards, some plays, some some breakdowns that

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Speaker 1: gonna have an extra week to kind of rest up

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Speaker 1: for now. But they put their offense in a position

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Speaker 1: the third quarter, and you know you can't argue with

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Speaker 1: eight and two. Yeah. Well, with Kyle Allen, I was

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Speaker 1: asked an insider inbox, what I thought in my first

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Speaker 1: response was he belongs. He showed he belongs in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: The elusiveness you talked about was certainly impressive. I thought

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Speaker 1: he made some really pinpoint throws, especially the over route

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Speaker 1: That that tell you anybody who's in anybody who's in

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Speaker 1: every week. Anybody who was still alive in a knockout

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Speaker 1: have picked them to beat to beat Atlanta there, and

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Speaker 1: they just got knocked out themselves. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the NFL for you right there. And uh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: favorite going into that game the Saints were and they

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Speaker 1: lose by seventeen point Mike, you and I we we

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Speaker 1: get over it. It happens that's what that's This is

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Speaker 1: the NFL. That's what I leaned over you during the

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Speaker 1: game as we're watching it, we're seeing the result on

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Speaker 1: the TVs. It's like, this is exactly what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: The NFL is so unpredictable at times, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Charges played really well offensively against green Bay. They make

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Speaker 1: that short trip over to Oakland, and then they couldn't

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Speaker 1: find themselves in the first half this particular game. Atlanta's defense,

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Speaker 1: which could do no right all season, last two seasons,

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Speaker 1: then suddenly they're finding a way to shut down one

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Speaker 1: of the games you know, best offenses and a future

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback. It is remarkable at times what happens.

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Speaker 1: And the playoffs is not about which team just dominate

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Speaker 1: which six teams were the most consistent over the course

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Speaker 1: of a sixteen game schedule. There are highs, there are loads,

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Speaker 1: there are bad games. You do not want, bad stretches,

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Speaker 1: and as Aaron Jones talked about Jamal Williams discussed, the

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Speaker 1: green Bay Packers prevented themselves from falling into a bad

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Speaker 1: stretch with bouncing back with thatctory Yeah, well, and you

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Speaker 1: look at what's coming up here Monday night, the undefeated

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Speaker 1: five and four West and they're there chances at any

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Speaker 1: kind of a division title in the NFC West West

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Speaker 1: of the some of these two upcoming San Francisco Seattle

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Speaker 1: a lot of things still have to sort themselves out here,

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Speaker 1: but but a big one tonight um in the Bay Area,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco hosting Seattle, trying to remain the only unbeaten

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Speaker 1: NFL team in twenty nineteen. There's a lot to like

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Speaker 1: now with you know, George Kittle being injured. I just

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Speaker 1: They have Seattle at home for this but if you

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Speaker 1: or bye, they are going to be facing a murderers

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Speaker 1: row here. It's lining up. Yeah, you have Seattle twice.

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Speaker 1: You have the Cardinals before the Packers game, a Cardinals

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Speaker 1: team that looks like it's been more dangerous and took

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Speaker 1: them to the wire just week. Yeah, Baltimore at Baltimore

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Speaker 1: at New Orleans, and they do have the Rams down

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Speaker 1: the stretch man. We're gonna learn a lot about the

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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers coming out of the bye with how

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Speaker 1: they play against the forty Niners. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: now that there's going to be more of a barometer

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Speaker 1: on where they're at than what San Francisco is going

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Speaker 1: to face. Now the last eight games including tonight, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is uh, this is gonna get This is gonna

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Speaker 1: get really interesting. Buckle up everybody, because I like to say,

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Speaker 1: all right, with that, we do have to go. We'll

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Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the

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Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com. We've got lots of content

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Speaker 1: coming up through the bye week, so don't desert us

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Speaker 1: podcast services. On Twitter, He's West Hot. I met Mike

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Speaker 1: Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody,

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