1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Third hour of Clay and Buck starts 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody, thanks for being here with us. We 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: had just mentioned at the end of the last hour 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: this breaking news story that I think is going to 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: certainly be factored into the discussion underway about law enforcement, 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: although I don't now that we have more of the details, 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: it isn't going to be I think in an inciting 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: incident of the likes we have seen in other police 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: involved shootings or police involved use of force. Obviously Tyree 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: Nichols and that abuse of police power has got everybody 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: very focused on the issue right now across the country, 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: but as Clay was pointing out, less focused than they 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: would be certainly from the media and Democrat Party perspective, 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: because all five of the officers involved in the fatal 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: beating of Tyree Nichols were black. In California police and 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: this is on video and we can link to the 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: Dailymail story on Clanbuck dot com so you can easily 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: see it on California an individual there are two cops 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: who are following a double amputee, So I mean the 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: visual is is very look, it's it's very upset a, 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: it's very troubling. This this double amputee is trying to 23 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: run away and you know, he's missing his legs from 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: below the knee, and he has a butcher knife in 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: his hand. And the report is that he stabs someone, 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: although there was no further information on who he stabbed, 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: and then was trying to get away from police in 28 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: his wheelchair and turns around with this butcher knife in 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: his hand. The cops say that they were afraid he 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: was going to throw the knife at them, and they 31 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: opened fire and they killed this man who had a 32 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: butcher knife in his hand. It is also in the 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: story that Anthony Lowe Junior, he's a thirty six year old. 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: The whole story's very it's just it's very sad. He's 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: a father of two. It is also in the story 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: that he lost his limbs, and there's no further information 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,679 Speaker 1: on the specifics from a previous encounter with law enforcement. 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know this is I'm just going by 39 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: what's reported in the Daily Mail here, but it seems 40 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: this may be an individual based on the history and 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: based on this exchange here in the streets, who is 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: deeply psychologically troubled and a danger to people. That's when 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: you're going around stabbing people with a butcher knife. So 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: I think that Clay. So far the police use of 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: force here. Law enforcement seems to be in Huntington Park, California, 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: seemed to be standing behind this incident. It's under investigation. 47 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna look at it. But this isn't in the 48 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: same category of use of force certainly, certainly anywhere near 49 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: what we saw with with Tyree Nichols. Because there is 50 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: a threat. He did stab somebody. He wasn't complying. He 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: turned with the knife. But he's on. I mean, I 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: don't know what the particular terminology is, but he's basically 53 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: running away on on. You know, Uh, he's disabling. He 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: does make a motion and look and I'm watching the 55 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: video too, and we'll see whether this turns into a 56 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: larger issue. The knife is a big knife, right, I mean, 57 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: this is like, uh, this is like booie knife. It's 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: not like it's a it's a large butcher knife or 59 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: like a chef's kitchen knife. It's big and razors and 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, you can tell it's a big sharp knife. Yes, 61 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: he's already stabbed someone. And in the in the video 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: as you watch it, he makes a motion with he's 63 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: carrying it, I think in his and what would be 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: his right hand, and he kind of turns as if 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: he is going to throw that knife, which is when 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the police officers start to pull their weapons. So I 67 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: understand it's up on the uh, it's up on the 68 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: front page to Daily Mail. You can watch you can 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: watch that video yourself and stuff. And the headline is 70 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: killed on his stumps, is what the headline is that 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: they have right now. And so that's where I think 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: there's going to be an emotional response to this. But 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: clearly this guy is is uh, you know, emotionally psychologically 74 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: on well, well he was, he's he passed away after 75 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: being shot by these officers. He did not survive that 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: that exchange. But you know, Clay, this is where you 77 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: know you're seeing an incident here where this you know, 78 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: cops have to deal with very difficult stuff day to day. 79 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, you're dealing with somebody who stab people, who 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: has previous previous violent encounter with law enforcement. We don't 81 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: have details on it yet, who's not complying, who has 82 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: a you know, anybody who understands. You know, it's a 83 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: little bit different in this case because this individual has 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: a has a disability, But anybody who understands edge weapons 85 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: knows if if you are within twenty feet of somebody 86 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: and you have an edge weapon, the chances are you'll 87 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: be able to stab them, even if they have a gun. 88 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: So you know, and that's how they train you in 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: law enforcements, how they train this in the CIA, even 90 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: you have to keep a perimeter of twenty feet because 91 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: within that twenty feet, if somebody has an edge weapon, 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: even if you shoot them, they're likely to be able 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: to get that knife and bury it into you somewhere. 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: So and if you have it holstered by the way, 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: they'll probably stab you before you can even get a 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: shot off. But cops are dealing with this stuff all 97 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: the time in Clay that you know, people talk about 98 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: the mental health issue and it's almost as though it's 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: a throwaway. There is a lot, you know, in the 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: context of law enforcement and what we can do. There's 101 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: a huge correlation between the drug abuse epidemic that's getting 102 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: worse all the time, specifically fental but meth also methamphetamine 103 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: and schizophrenia are very closely tied together, or or creating 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: situations of exacerbating existing mental health issues. And I view 105 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: these issues as all tied in, you know, And I 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: think law enforcements having to deal with an epidemic not 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: just of drug use, but of extreme mental health issues 108 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: that put people at risks at risk day in and 109 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: day out. Well, we saw the Paul Pelosi video. What 110 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: how quickly a near death experience could happen in that 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: situation For those of you who watched it when it 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: finally came out on Friday, we talked about it during 113 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: the show Friday as that video was released. How quickly 114 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: the guy hit, even with police officers there, pulled, pulled 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: that hammer and hit the individual in the head. So again, 116 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: I think it is so imperative to have experienced what 117 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: police have to experience at some point in your life 118 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: before you actually render judgment. And I've said this for 119 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: a long time. I think every lawyer who was doing 120 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: anything in the criminal law system or even contemplating it, 121 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: should do a ride along with a cop on a 122 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: night right, just see what the average things they have 123 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: to deal with are, right, Because whenever one of these 124 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: viral videos comes out, and I think This is important 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: because certainly Twitter and social media in general amplify these 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: viral videos and doesn't mean that cops don't sometimes misbehave 127 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: certainly look at Tyree Nichols. But when you are able 128 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to see the full context of a interaction and know 129 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: how it ends, it is a very different situation than 130 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: being in the middle of that event yourself and not 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: having an idea how it ends. So when I watch 132 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: this video that is up on the Daily Mail now 133 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: of this individual getting shot, he's got a massive butcher 134 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: knife and he makes a motion as if he is 135 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: going to throw that knife in the direction of the officers. 136 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: When you have already stabbed someone and you are holding 137 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: a massive butcher knife knife and you refuse demands from 138 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: all officers to drop the butcher knife, I don't have 139 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: any I don't have any judgment at all for an 140 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: officer who decides that they have to shoot you no 141 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: matter who you are, right, I mean, because to your point, Buck, 142 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: if you throw that massive butcher knife like you could 143 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: kill someone with it, and you're clearly refusing to accept 144 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: officer demands after already having assaulted someone, so they know 145 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: that you're violent and willing to use that weapon, and 146 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: I just think that we ask in a lot of cases, 147 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: we ask so much of cops. Look, let's put aside 148 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: for a second the Tyree Nickel situation that is fortunately rare, 149 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: where it's just cops who are acting well outside of 150 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: the boundaries of the law and decency. That the reality, 151 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: by the numbers day in and day out of law 152 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: enforcement across the country is they are put in very 153 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: difficult situations and they're often really used used as a 154 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: frontline mechanism to deal with extreme substance abuse, extreme mental 155 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: health issues. You know, people who have suffered tremendous abuse 156 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: themselves throughout their lives and now they're adults, and now 157 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: certain patterns are set, behaviors, a tendency to violence, and 158 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: they're the ones that are supposed to just make everything okay, 159 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: and if they don't do it perfectly, we jump on 160 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: them right away. Again, I'm not talking about the extreme 161 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: crossing of the line. I'm talking about what is actually 162 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: regularly happening, which is cops in very difficult circumstances being 163 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: asked to do a lot and to do so perfectly. 164 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: This is also why you know there are people that 165 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: go around or they do this. They like to get 166 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: into these filming police officers to see if they actually 167 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: know whether they can ask for idea or not. It's 168 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: very minor stuff, but they're basically trying to show that, 169 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, the cops aren't as constitutionally literate, perhaps as 170 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: some folks them to be on very minor on the 171 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: very basic issue of can you ask me for ID 172 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: or not? Have I committed a crime or not? And 173 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: they go down the list. You know, cops are under 174 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot of stress, a lot of strain, especially at 175 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: high crime you know. Look, I'm not talking about somebody 176 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: who's in a place where they haven't had a murder 177 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: in ten years or something, right, I mean that's a 178 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: different situation, but in major cities or in high crime areas, 179 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: and I mean I know that these two officers you've 180 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: seen this on this video, there was no part of 181 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: them that showed up to work thinking that they would 182 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: be in a position where they would have to choose 183 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: whether or not they were going to shoot a double 184 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: amputee in broad daylight on video who was running down 185 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: the street with a butcher knife, you know, And there 186 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: was no part of them that I can assure you 187 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: afterwards thought anything other than what a horrible situation this is. 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: People forget I mean, if you have if the cops 189 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: end up using their service weapon in their jobs, they're 190 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: going to go to mental health counseling there. You know, 191 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: this is something that stayed even in a justified shooting. 192 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: It will stay with those officers. There's the rest of 193 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: their lives. You know, even if you had no choice. 194 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: It can be a traumatic experience for the officer as well. 195 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: And I just think that with a wide open border, 196 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: the flood of the streets, flood on the streets of 197 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: fentanyl and meth and what that does. So much of 198 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: the homelessness problem play is tied directly to drug abuse. 199 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: The drug abuse problem is tied directly to the spiraling criminality. 200 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: The mental health crisis that I think you're seeing in 201 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: cities across the country is tied to both the drug 202 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: abuse and the criminality that comes from it. And then 203 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: we throw cops out there in these cities, we say 204 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: fix it, you fix it, you deal with it. Who 205 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: else is dealing with it? I know there are some 206 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: nonprofits and things that are trying, but they're not called 207 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: in when the guy's waving the butcher knife around also 208 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: Buck and I think this ties in with the five 209 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: cops in Memphis. Who's willing to even do this job now? 210 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't think we talk enough about the number of 211 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: guys out there and girls who are listening to us 212 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: right now, who might have had twenty years in the police, 213 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: and after George Floyd, they were thinking about retirement twenty 214 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: five years, they said I'm out. I'm not dealing with 215 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: this anymore, the lack of respect, the danger that I face, 216 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,479 Speaker 1: So they tap out these every one of these communities. Minneapolis, 217 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: I think is one of the hardest hit is having 218 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: a massive amount of experienced police that are saying I 219 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: can't do this anymore. And who are the people that 220 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: are willing to take these jobs? You don't get paid 221 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: a great amount right, You have your life under danger 222 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: every single day. You aren't particularly well respected in many 223 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: parts of the community you serve, and if you make 224 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: a split second error in judgment during the course of 225 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: your policing, you're getting examined with a fine tooth comb 226 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: and you may go to prison for the rest of 227 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: your life. How many people want to sign up for 228 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: that job? I don't be honest with you, there's no 229 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: part of me that would be willing to be a 230 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: cop right now. I appreciate and respect everybody who is. 231 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: But how many people out there and that are twenty 232 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: years old are thinking, hey, I want to be a 233 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: cop right now? I bet fewer than has ever existed 234 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: in any of our lives. And so you're getting a 235 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: pool of candidates that is probably weaker, which is going 236 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: to lead to a worse performance on the job probably 237 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: and poorer relations in the community, which becomes a self 238 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: fulfilling cycle. That's where I feel like we are. And 239 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: the more we demean this job, the more difficult it becomes, 240 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: and the worse the candidates who are willing to do it. 241 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: You know, Heather McDonald who wrote The War on Cops. Yeah, 242 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: and we should have her on because there's some if 243 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: you want to look at data and you want to 244 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: understand what's really happening. I think she's an excellent and 245 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: fearless which is necessary on these topics because remember, you 246 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: have to be willing if this is about saving lives. 247 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: So to make real change happen here for the better, 248 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: and to save lives, you have to to say things 249 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: that care more about the lives saved, and the disproportionate 250 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: number of black lives that will be saved by better 251 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: policies rooted in reality than the sensibilities of the left 252 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: and the Democrat Party set on a podcast or about 253 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: a year ago, she said, there's a study done under 254 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: the Obama administration in Philadelphia that found that black and 255 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: Hispanic officers have a higher rate of what is called 256 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: threat misperception, which means an officer mistake somebody's cell phone 257 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: for a gun and shoots. So the push this is 258 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: a quote, the push to diversify forces at the expense 259 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: of some standards of recruiting is insane end quote. And 260 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: she's saying it's effectively. The push to diversify police at 261 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: the expense of skill set in any or you know of, 262 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: of ability in any way can result in more violence, 263 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: actually more violence that is outside. So promoting people above 264 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: their schools their skill set isn't just a problem of 265 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's administer. Yeah, my friends out there who like 266 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: to spend time at the gun range, let me tell 267 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: you amo super expensive. 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Buck Victoria Azarenko. 293 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert in women's tennis, but she made 294 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: the semifinals down in Australia and she gave one of 295 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: the best answers I have seen any pro athlete give 296 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: when they were trying to ask her about Ukraine and Russia. Listen, 297 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: does it frustrate you that, yeah? Particularly last night for example, 298 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: it was a clear sort of pro Russian demonstration happening 299 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: within the grounds of the tournament, that these people are 300 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: coming and using the Australian Open as a platform for 301 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: these kind of demonstrations. So whatever the answer, I'm going 302 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: to give it to you right now, it's going to 303 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: be turned whichever way you want to turn it to. 304 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: And I don't know. Are you covering politics? Yes, And 305 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm an athlete and you're asking me about things that 306 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: maybe somebody says are in my control, but I don't 307 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: believe that. So I don't know what you want me 308 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: to answer. And if it's a provocative question, then you 309 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: know you can spin the story however you want. That's perfect. 310 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, she's totally right in how 311 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: she handled it from multiple perspectives. One is I don't 312 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: care what she thinks about that. She's a tennis player. Yes, 313 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: they should be asking her about tennis. They should not 314 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: be asking about geopolitics. This is a perfect example of 315 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: athletes starting to understand that a lot of sports media. 316 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: And she's doing a press conference there right after a 317 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: tennis match, and she gets asked about Ukraine, Russia and whatever. 318 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: She says, She's right, the writer is going to spin 319 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: it the way that they want. I just love that answer. 320 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: I wish more athletes would give it. 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So we've 338 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: seen a number of states start to take action on 339 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: the issue of what the left calls gender affirming care 340 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: for youth, but what I think is more properly called 341 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: transgender hormone and surgeries for adolescence and for kids. And 342 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: so this is a major issue that has gotten a 343 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: lot of attention in the last year or so. Some 344 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: folks have done very good work in raising this because 345 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: it's gone through the usual cycle. When their left knows 346 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: they're doing something that isn't going to play well with 347 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: a majority of the American people, perhaps even seventy or 348 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: eighty percent of the American people, they always start out 349 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: by saying that's not really happening. Why are you so 350 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: focused on that? And then when it's clear it is happening, 351 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: they say, why are you such a bigot? Why are 352 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: you even talking about this issue? You have to think 353 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: of it the way that we want you to. And 354 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: so they've done that with transgender surgery for kids. You know, 355 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: out in Utah, the governor there just signed signed a 356 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: bill putting put on his desk. This is Governor Spencer 357 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: Cox that will ban youth. This is from the PBS 358 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: write up of this Clay from receiving gender affirming healthcare. 359 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: That's the way they're they're presenting this now. Really, what 360 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: it will do is at least try to apply the 361 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: breaks a little bit to giving teenagers twelve, thirteen, fourteen 362 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: years old hormone blockers and perhaps even engage in, or 363 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: or be given surgery that is supposed to change their 364 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: their gender. And you know, I was really really remarkable. 365 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: I saw this and I wanted everyone to hear it. 366 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: It was Jordan Peterson, who everyone knows Jordan Peterson. He 367 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: does very very good work. He's with the Daily Wire. 368 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: Now here he is Clay talking about something we discussed 369 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: on the show, which was back in the Disney v. 370 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Dis Santis throwdown era, there was that Disney executive who 371 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: spoke about having a transgender child and a separately, a 372 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: pan sexual child. This is what she was talking about. 373 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: This is the head of creative content at Disney and 374 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: one of the most storied content companies in all history, 375 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: if not the most. And this is how Jordan Peterson 376 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: did his analysis of that. By the numbers, listen, the 377 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: chance you have a trans kit is one in three thousand, 378 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: and let's say the chance that you have pan sexual 379 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: kid is the same. So the joint probability that you 380 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: have a trans kid and a pan sexual kid is 381 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: one in nine million. The odds that you're a pathological 382 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: narcissist sacrificing your own children to the glorification of your 383 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: compassion is eight million, nine hundred ninety nine, nine hundred 384 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: ninety nine to one. So like, do you have a 385 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: trans kit in a pants sexual kid or are you 386 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: a devouring mother? I think you held to play so 387 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: well said, it is amazing how often the most far 388 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: left wing, inclusive and I'm putting it in quotation marks 389 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: people end up with kids like this. And I think 390 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: I've said this on the show before, but one, you 391 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: can't get a tattoo in most states under the age 392 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: of eighteen. That's because we decide that you are not 393 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: of sound enough mind to decide to get a tattoo. 394 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: How in the world can it be permissible to have 395 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: gender reassignment surgery before you're eighteen. We won't even let 396 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: you get a barbed wire tattoo legally on your arm, 397 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: And we're gonna let someone chop off your genitals, chop 398 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: off your breast before the age of eighteen. I mean, 399 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: that's madness. It's child abuse, and that should be the 400 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: law of the land everywhere. And I give credit to 401 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Spencer Coxon, Utah, the governor there, for signing this, but 402 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: this should be a law that every Republican governor in 403 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: the country should sign. It's not remotely controversial. Also, if 404 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: you are out there arguing that your child is gender 405 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: non binary and they are six or seven years old 406 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: or even younger, that's child abuse too. No six year 407 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: old knows what gender they are in terms of wanting 408 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: to flip their gender. And my wife pointed this out, 409 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: but I think it's important we don't let six year 410 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: olds pick their own meals because if they could, they 411 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: would eat birthday cake for every meal. Doesn't sound awful, 412 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: by the way, and for a six year old, it 413 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: sounds downright delectable. So if we don't let a six 414 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: year old choose every meal they eat, and anyone who 415 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: has raised a six year old knows that experience of saying, 416 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: before you can eat, so you've got to finish. Why 417 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: it's a huge part of parenting. How can anyone justify 418 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: this idea that a child should be able to pick 419 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: their gender. It's not coming from the kid, it's coming 420 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: from the parent who wants to feel special and inclusive. 421 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: I think Jordan Peterson absolutely nailed that. And it's the 422 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: fact that that Disney executive can brag to all of 423 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: the other people in Los Angeles about how inclusive she 424 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: is because her family is so is so inclusive itself. 425 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what is pan sexual mean, buck, 426 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: You're attracted to everything. Yes, every literally will sleep with anyone. 427 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: And that's a different than bisexual how because it includes 428 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: intersex people. Bisexual, I believe relies on a gender normativity 429 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: of cis gender individuals, whereas if you're pan sexually will 430 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: also include in your pen sexuality the possibility of an 431 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: intersex individual who is nonsius gender. You like that, everybody, 432 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: That's how it goes. That's a really your ability to 433 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: know all this is both impressive and troubling simultaneously. And 434 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I can't even keep up with all this terminology and 435 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: uh and and but but in all honesty, like who cares? Right? 436 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: Like why is this? Why is this in any way? 437 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: And obsession of the left? I think the answer is 438 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: because there's so little else to fight for at this 439 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: point that they just have to make up stuff. It's 440 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: it's all just really, I think, by and large, people 441 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: who are very disturbed mentally and unhappy, and they think 442 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: if they make a dramatic change in their life that 443 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: it's somehow going to cure the deep well of darkness 444 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: that they fill inside them. And I hate to have 445 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: to say that, but doesn't it feel that way that 446 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: there's this idea if you're sixteen years old or fourteen 447 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: years old, and you feel unhappy and unhealthy in your body, 448 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: and that's totally common for many different adolescents out there, 449 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: they feel as if they have to undertake some sort 450 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: of radical transformation in order to attain happiness. And I 451 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: feel almost certain that after this radical transformation in their lives, 452 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: they don't feel very much different at all. And that, 453 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: to me is the ultimate tragedy of this is that's 454 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: what they've convinced themselves. And there's a cottage industry of 455 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: people trying to tell them it's not normal to be 456 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: uncomfortable when you're an adolescent. This will fix it, and 457 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: most of the time it's a lie. And also, you 458 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: don't have to be an expert to know when people 459 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: are lying to you. You can just think, get through 460 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: critically and come to the proper conclusion, which is that 461 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: something is wrong in a situation that is outside of 462 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: what would be your your expertise as an I don't 463 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: have to be a doctor to know that. When I 464 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: was thinking about having effectively clay an ankle reconstruction surgery 465 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: about a decade ago, it's my ankle's a total mess. 466 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: They walk me through all kinds of possibilities. We might 467 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: have to, you know, take the screws out again. It might, 468 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: you might get an infection, you might you know, all 469 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: the stuff. You know. Doctors do this with any surgery. 470 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: They're like, look, if you're gonna be under it's anesthesia. 471 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: You know it's rare, but bad things gonna they take 472 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: you through all that. You'll notice at the moment anybody says, hey, 473 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: when you have top surgery as a as a female 474 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: to become trans you're actually going you might have lifelong pain, numbness, 475 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: all kinds of things you know, might might, It will 476 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: affect your your home oones. Whatever the side effects may be, 477 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: you're not even allowed to discuss. Just like we saw 478 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: what the vaccines. Is it even possible there's a side effect? 479 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: Shut up, you anti science lunatic. You're not allowed to 480 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: say that. Well as we know, of course the worst 481 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: side effects, they just suppressed them. Same thing is happening 482 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: with transgender surgery for children. What are the long term 483 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: effects of taking puberty blockers on bone density? Go through 484 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: a whole list of side effects. If you bring up 485 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: those side effects, the progressive left, the Democrat base will 486 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: say you're a bigot. That's all. Yeah, that's all you 487 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: really have to knowe or know something's up right. This 488 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: is about kids and their health and we can't even 489 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: know what the risk factors are. That's shut down. Tells 490 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: you everything. I agree, and it should be a law. 491 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm glad Utah's got it now. But this 492 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: should be the law of the land everywhere, all right. Look, families, 493 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: you want to preserve your family memories for as long 494 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: as you possibly can. 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Make sure that you don't miss a single moment. 520 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned this on the show yet today, Bucks, 521 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: so I figured we probably should. It's good news on 522 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: some level, although it's crazy. Joe Biden yesterday evening announced 523 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: that he would be ending our COVID emergency status. I 524 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: believe on May the eleventh of twenty twenty three, so 525 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: almost three and a half years after the COVID emergency 526 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: started in late January of twenty twenty twenty twenty, if 527 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, it's hard to even remember. Now we 528 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: are getting to the point where Biden is finally willing 529 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: to say, hey, I'm not going to continue this now. 530 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: The fallout I believe of the COVID shots is just beginning, 531 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: and there was an MSNBC host and I believe we 532 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: have the audio of this. This is Yasmin and I'm 533 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna try to pronounce her name right, Yasmin Vosgian, and 534 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: I might have just gotten that wrong a little bit. 535 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: But she told viewers out there on MSNBC that she 536 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: had gotten a very severe case of myocarditis. I'm not 537 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: even sure if you've heard this yet, Buck, this was 538 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: her talking directly to the MSNBC audience from a cold. 539 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: She's had all of her COVID shots and everything else. 540 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: She said, myocarditis as well as periocarditis, all because she 541 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: had a cold. Listen. I was diagnosed with paracarditis, inflammation 542 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: of the lining of my heart, brought on by a virus, 543 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: a literal common cold. On January fourth. I was finally 544 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: discharged after doctors drained the fluid around my heart and 545 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: I bounced out of the hospitife with hopes I was 546 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: on the mend, but that was not the end. Three 547 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: days later, I was readmitted when I felt a flutter 548 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: in my heart and determined I had developed myocarditis, inflammation 549 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: of the actual heart. Now they ran a battery at test, 550 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: just my meds, and made sure nothing else was fueling 551 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: what was happening, and in fact, in the end it 552 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: was still just the cold that was doing all of this, 553 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: that had caused all of this inflammation in and around 554 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: my heart block. I don't know her particular medical diagnosis, obviously, 555 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: but doesn't it feel like there are an awful lot 556 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: of people out there who are otherwise young and healthy 557 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: suddenly having heart issues that they're blaming on things that 558 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: don't seem very likely. I mean, in my life, how 559 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: many people in your forties have you known in their 560 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: forties who are otherwise healthy? She said she was running 561 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: seven miles every other day, who suddenly get myocarditis or periocardiis. 562 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: I think we could make this even even simpler. It's 563 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: going with your question. But until the era of COVID, 564 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: who had even really honestly heard of myocarditis? Which I 565 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: do think it's fair too. Yeah, I think it's fair, right. 566 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe, Look, I'm sure there are a lot 567 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: of people the audience who are very scored away on 568 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: all things medical and doctors and so forth, But I 569 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: do think that there's something to that that we've had 570 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: to learn what myocarditis is for a reason in the 571 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: era of COVID. And I also would add to it, 572 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: Clay that the people who were supposed to be trustworthy 573 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: have destroyed the public's trust when it comes to health 574 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: and all issues related to COVID. And so when you've 575 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: destroyed all trust, they are going to be people that 576 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: take a an approach of at a minimum cynicism, if 577 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: not disbelief to their pronouncements. So the more they claim things, 578 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: for example, like you're more likely to get myocarditis from 579 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: COVID that from the vaccine, more people say, well, that's 580 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: not true. Are you saying that because they can't trust 581 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: these individuals? They just don't trust that, they don't trust 582 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: the consensus anymore. Yeah, I'm not sure there's ever been 583 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: a time where institutions were less trusted in America than 584 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: right now. And when I see that video and I 585 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: shared it, you can go watch it yourself. I wonder 586 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: how many people in the MSNBC audience even have their 587 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: ears perk up and question, wait, is this really the cause? 588 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 1: Is this really what's going on? And look, I hope 589 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: things start to get better when this May eleventh date 590 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: gets here. I would point out that Joe Biden tried 591 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: to justify his student loan waivers his student loan racier, 592 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: even though it's not an a racier, it's just shifting 593 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: the debt to the American public from the individual. He 594 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: said one of the reasons why he was able to 595 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: do that was because of the COVID emergency. So is 596 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: he just acknowledging that that was a desperate ploy to 597 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: try to get young people to vote for Democrats, even 598 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: though he knew that there was no way it was 599 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: going to stand constitutionally, just like the eviction moratorium, just 600 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: like the COVID shot mandate. Think about how crazy that is, Buck. 601 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty, we entered a COVID emergency state. 602 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember there being a lot of people who 603 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: made arguments against it in January of twenty twenty. It's 604 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: taken us almost three and a half years to leave. 605 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, kids could basically have graduated from college and 606 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: been under the COVID emergency this entire time. That's indefensible. 607 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: We can't ever allow something like this to happen again. 608 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: Everybody who was saying at the beginning of the pandemic, 609 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: I would put myself in this category. I know you 610 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: would too, slow down. This is crazy, and once they 611 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: have this power, they will not want to relinquish it. 612 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: Everyone who identified the authoritarian slippery slope that COVID presented 613 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: was correct. All of it. It all happened as we 614 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: thought it would. They stretched it out, they abused the 615 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: public trust, they abused power, all of it. It happened 616 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: exactly as was anticipated. Because when you understand the nature 617 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: of power and how it corrupts, you understand how those 618 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: in power will use it. And there's actually right now 619 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: is laughing kind of dejectively watching some of the congressmen 620 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: and women react to this declaration on the House floor. 621 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: We are not being led by the smartest among us 622 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: and is sending us their best Clay. No. I know 623 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: that probably doesn't stun a lot of you out there, 624 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: But when the people that we are employing are as 625 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: dumb as the argument Sheila Jackson Lee just made about 626 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: COVID that I was watching, I am troubled. Like you 627 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: can agree or disagree on a lot of issues, but 628 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: we have so many dumb people that are in Congress 629 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: right now. They literally don't have the mental faculties to 630 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: be able to make legitimate arguments in an intelligent fashion. 631 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: A lot of them don't. Fortunately this show exists, though, 632 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,280 Speaker 1: so people can hear smart stuff too,