WEBVTT - Ep22 Jonny Lieberman 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.880 Welcome back to another episode of Car Stories with Sun. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:09.039 Kane and Amelia Hartford. 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.000 So, Amelia, question for you, oh dear, when you go 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:19.200 to a place like Starbucks or Baskin Robbins, right, and 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:22.360 you pay with a credit card okay, and then they 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.560 flipped the screen over to you and there's like. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:30.520 Tip, tip, always, always tip everything, Tip a lot. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.320 You've at the grocery store. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.880 I am so thankful to have an income and be 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:37.640 in the position I am in, and I worked in 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.480 food and service for so long in my life. Always tip. 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:43.120 I'm a thirty percent or more person. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:44.559 But what if they didn't do anything? 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:46.200 Tip? Really? 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.920 Yeah, I'm in a better position there, and if I 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.080 can help, that's all that matters. 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.680 God, you're so much better human being there. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:53.400 You don't like tipping? 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.480 No, I love to tip, Like I worked in the 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.240 service industry forever, so when I'm at a restaurant, like, 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:04.920 I make sure that you know people are taken care of. Right. However, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.959 when I feel pressured, like you buy a bottle of 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:14.400 water and it's like a dollar ninety nine and then 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.520 there's a thirty percent tip option for that and they 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.600 didn't It's not like, look, I'm about like being fair. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.040 It's like if you did something. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.479 So here, here's the thing. If they were to raise 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:28.080 the minimum wage and pay people more, they're just gonna 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:31.360 make the cost of goods more. So there's no they're 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.000 not going to raise them in on wage. So I 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.200 feel like we as people who are fortunate enough to 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.480 be able to help someone else's income, that's our responsibility 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.040 because the big business isn't going to do. 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.319 Why don't they just raise the prices of the food then, like, 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:43.039 I don't mind. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.520 They do, they will? They wild? 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:45.520 Why do I have it? 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.480 But not everyone can afford raising the prices of food. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:49.760 Starbucks can. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.040 People who are buying, Well, have you picked in and 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:56.559 out now? Or double double? 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:01.600 It's over ten dollars, So that's that's inflation, right, But 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.040 they don't ask for a tip. How come in and 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:04.160 out doesn't ask for a tip? 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.160 Well, they pay their their people, I guess I don't know. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.359 So so but Starbucks cannot like Starbucks is. 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.079 Way bigger, Well, they could and they I'm pretty sure 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.560 Starbucks will actually help pay for your college and give 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:16.360 you health. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.000 Care for your college. Yeah, that's true. 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.760 When it comes to tipping, I'm just a tip always 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.320 tip generously. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:25.320 Bad service, even. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.720 For bad service for twenty Yeah. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:32.880 Bad service, bad food, and you'll still tip. Yeah, bad attitude. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:34.440 Maybe they're having a bad day. 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:35.280 Huh. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:37.840 Really yeah, I'm a tipper. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:38.320 Huh. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.280 The tipping thing is like very stressful for me. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.520 That's why I don't think about it. I'm in a 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.400 position where I can help someone more than I need it, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:48.760 don't think about it. I tip. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.760 I went to the drive through with Teedji to go 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.519 get them a pop cup and myself a drink, and 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.000 they pull out the credit card thing, and you know, 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.880 I tapped it and they had to tip. Yeah, and 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:06.320 then we met eyes. It's just one. I was like, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:10.040 they're like, I know you, what do I tip? And 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.280 I was trying to press like the one dollar thing 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.200 all right, and then I dropped the credit card and 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:16.840 there was like a whole fi. I had to move 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.639 the car up and like come out of the car 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.400 and she's just like I looked at her and I 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.040 was like, oh, she's thinking. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:23.799 You cheap. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.560 Do you think it's only awkward because you make it awkward? 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.720 They make it awkward. Why why is this? Like why 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.840 is it that there's the thing is like at this 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.360 place I've paid cash before and there's no tip jar. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.640 I've seen tip jars, well not at this place, so 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.840 there's no tip jar. So I'm like, I don't understand. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.200 If I pay cash, you're not you're not asked to 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.839 leave a tip. But then with the credit card it's 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:52.480 like three dollars twenty five cents option for one thing. Anyway, Okay, 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.360 so all right, I'm not going to win this argument. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.280 There's no argument here. It's just it's not. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.520 It's a it's a perfect It's also a new. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.000 Thing because to Japan there's no tips. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.600 Right, there's not. They actually, in fact, they get insulted 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:05.960 when you try to offer a tip. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.760 Yeah, because there's something wrong with this tip culture. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.120 It's the cost of going out. It is what it is. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:12.480 If you don't like it, don't go there. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:13.000 I don't know. 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.360 I guess yeah, I can't control it. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:15.600 You know. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.320 When I get a Domino's pizza delivery, I tip huge 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.120 because it's the best pizza. Well, all right, so speaking 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.640 of best, our next guest old friend Johnny Lieberman, Yes, 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.520 co host of The Inevitable with our one of our 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.039 past guests, Ed Low, an old friend as well. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.640 Johnny holds a high level position within the motor tren 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:42.359 family and very knowledgeable, knows a lot about cars, and 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.240 we had a conversation that I wasn't expecting to have 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.159 and he was a complete open book. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:52.200 Yeah, it's cool to be able to have car conversations 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.720 about cool cars and racing and all that. But then 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.680 you know, I have like a vulnerable like talk, right, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.880 and then be able to share things. I think probably 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.440 most of the listeners wouldn't imagine, like you go through 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.200 the war, I go through, he goes through, and then 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.360 that they were all human. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:10.279 It's nice to be able to I always say, if 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.880 I'm not learning something, I kind of don't get as 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.440 interested in it. That's why I love cars. So I'm 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:17.599 constantly learning, and I feel like these conversations we have 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.760 with people, I'm constantly learning things, which I find a 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.880 gift and so interesting. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.680 Yeah, I agree, just like the gift of a Dumbinos pizza. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:35.640 All right, without further ado, it's you're a dog guy too, right, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.440 you have a dog, just one at the moment we've 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:39.800 had a couple, had a coupling. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.280 They come and go, what kind of dog you have? 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.440 Now, Mutt? She let me, is we. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.039 Saw her mom. Her mom is a Wiener dog. Dad 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.520 is taller and fluffier, but no clue. We found her 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.760 at the pound. Yeah, she's she's getting up there, but 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.360 she's she's still pretty cute. Pretty stinky at this point, 0:05:58.400 --> 0:05:59.080 but pretty cute. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.839 It's hard when though they pass on. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.360 I mean we had what well, yeah, yes, yes, it's 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.160 horrible when they passed. I've had I've had one almost 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:11.000 killed me and another one was pretty sad. But yeah, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.440 actually I've had three. Yeah, it sucks. It's one of 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.400 the worst things. Yeah, I went there next to a 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:15.960 person dying. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.680 It is it's like a child like dying. When my 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:23.000 previous dog, we had actually three, we had two chowchows. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.159 One was really connected to my wife, Simba. The female 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.520 was like really attached to me. Yeah, and went and 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.719 and we had a Maltese that Simba actually killed Jesus. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.560 But that's horrible. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.760 But but Simba waited for me to come back from 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.880 Germany like I was working. I came back, I come 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.159 into the house. She jumps to give me a kiss, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:51.599 and then she lays down and then and then I 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.279 took her to the vet and then Bet said, you 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.160 have to go get an MRI because there's something wrong 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.839 with her. But she was like thirteen already, right. And 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:03.480 then it was like during the pink Berry kind of craze, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.480 Remember pink Berry the yogurt place. It was like dead 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:10.160 summer and I was like driving to the MRI place 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.160 and Simba was in the back seat and she started, like, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.480 you know, breathing hard. So I pulled over and I 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.200 took her out of the car and she just passed 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.400 away in my arm and I started. It was like 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.240 out of a movie. I was like crying and like 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.560 yelling at God, and snot was coming down my nose 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.320 and I'm like ah. And then I look up and 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.280 all these kids are eating their pink berry going like. 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:44.360 This man was holding this dead dog, Like I look 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.760 up and all, okay, I think we'll wrap this up 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:52.200 real quick. Yeah it's horrible. Yeah, I could have do 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:53.560 another dog forever. 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.960 This is a great way to start a podcast. 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.560 Yeah, you know, but it's also you know, and then 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.800 when we got Tedgi, if a dog's life span is 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.080 like ten to thirteen years, thirteen is like. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.920 That depends if little dogs live longer's that's you know, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.800 so a little dog in fifteen years can be pretty normal. 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.360 Big dogs live like eight years eight ten. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:14.840 It depends on the size. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:16.000 That's like that. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:17.920 Oh yeah right, oh yeah, and. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:22.320 He's already four. So he reminds me of knife is short, right, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.160 and go for some cuddles and kisses right as much 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:25.680 as you can. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:31.120 Yeah right, well said bring it in after the show. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.600 Well, Johnny, thank. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.839 You so much, thanks for joining us today. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:36.720 This is so cool. 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.880 This is I mean again good to run into you 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:40.600 at the best green barbecue in La. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.840 Yes, parks barbecue. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:43.680 Starting each other parks. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:44.280 You know parks. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:45.199 Yeah, I love parks. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:46.560 You love parks? Do you love parks? 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:47.160 Of course? 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.720 Okay, okay, So we have a mutual friend Saying Saying. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.679 Saying is a restaurant or he owns Father's office. He's 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.040 a big car guy. He's been on your show, a huge, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:58.559 huge car like official. 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.480 So funny story. So say Father's office. It's actually the 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.280 one in Santa Monica is now I think twenty four years. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:05.280 Old as of last week. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:07.840 So I used to be really into homebrewing and I 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.200 was in this beer club and we had our meeting there. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.360 This is back in like two thousand and one, and 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.480 he had the best beer at the time, you couldn't 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.280 find good beer anywhere, just didn't exist in restaurants, and 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.760 he had like Pliny the Elder on. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.120 Tap I love plenty. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.760 Yeah, but again, this is twenty one years ago, twenty 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.600 three years ago anyways, and I'm like who is this guy? 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.559 Like who? And they're like, oh, I sang, but he's 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:29.120 a real dick. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:29.960 No. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.400 Everyone likes me, and I remember I walk up, I 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:33.000 like tap him on. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.440 The shoulder and I'm like, hey man, like you have 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.560 the this is amazing, what a cool restaurant. And he 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.000 literally just like looks at me and turns his back. Really, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.560 I say a word, just turns his back to me, 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:44.800 and I'm like, fuck that guy. I don't know if 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.720 we can swear on this fuckcast. Okay, great sucked this 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.079 guy and I didn't. I had nothing to do with him. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:52.280 I stopped going to father's office. They got a good burger. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.680 I'm like, the owner's an asshole. And then on Instagram, 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.120 I get a message like hey man, like we should 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.080 hang out, you know, like you want to go to parks. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.280 And I showed up and I tell her that story 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.160 and he's just like, yeah, this is like something. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.599 I do you think you think the connective tissue eventually 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:10.840 was cars. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.480 Was saying one hundred percent, yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:13.719 Yeah. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.199 And then it turned out that I have a big. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:18.240 Interest in food, and you know, he's mutual friends in 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.160 the food world and the car world and everything. So 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.560 but yeah, for sure, but that was that was what 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.559 was so funny was so I was I was at 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.360 parks with my son, my brother in law, and my nephew, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.800 and I'm telling stories about eating there with Sang. I'm 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.360 like saying this, saying that my nephew, who's a huge 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.000 fast and furious fan, thought I was talking about him, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.640 and he's just like, you come here with he thought 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.040 your name, was saying and I'm like no, no, no, no, 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.400 that's Sang, not Sung. And we're walking out, I'm like, oh, hey, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.280 so I'm always just talking about you and my nephews 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.160 like just stars. It just like goes silent word and 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.640 then like running up, He's like that, I can't believe 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.240 you know him, I can't like. 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.160 And the guy that I was with was the writer 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.920 of the of the movies. Oh seriously, what was the 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.560 name Chris Morian? Chris right, yeah, yeah, nice guy. Yeah, 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:03.240 he's super nice. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:04.520 Oh cool? Oh how funny? 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:05.880 Was this coincidence? 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.280 Small La World? Yeah? 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:09.800 So okay, so this was recent, this is like the 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.120 past week or yeah, that was so funny. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:13.880 The day that Ed was here. 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:15.240 Yeah. 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.640 On the podcast, Ed brought you up quite a few times. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:19.760 I'm like, you guys have this. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.920 Yeah, well I've been working with Ed for over thirteen years. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:25.440 Wow. 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.240 Another one who was mean to me when I first 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:32.480 met him. Yeah, this was like back in so I'll 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.600 tell you exactly what this was. So I knew his name, 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.800 you know, I never really met him. And then we're 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.880 on the X six launch this this is like two 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.240 thousand and seven, and he's there and it's Motor tren. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:45.679 I wasn't a motor tray at the time. I was like, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.280 I don't even know what I was at, but like 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.760 motor trend, big big deal. And he had like a 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.120 video guy with him. And this is again two thousand 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:55.480 and seven, and I remember I was like trying to 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.400 say hello to him, just like wouldn't look at me, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.840 wouldn't give me the time of day, you know. So 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.600 but you know, since I was I did a podcast 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:04.719 with that this morning, so you know. 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.319 It seems like a reoccurring theme. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.080 That I mean it could be Yeah, I don't know, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:12.280 it's just those two. Really. 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.800 When I first met ed, he was very intimidating to 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.439 me too, really, yeah, because he I met him at 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.959 Motor Trend. Yeah, and he was in a suit. Any 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:26.200 Asian man in a suit intimidates you. Yeah, totally didn't 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.720 like he's wearing a suit. He's that corporate guy right 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.880 right right, And then you find out like, oh he 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:32.480 makes bread. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.040 Yeah, he's a goofy surfer, he's super cool. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.360 Yeah, you can never judge a man by his. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:39.880 Suit, fair enough. I wasn't intimidated. I was just like, 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.960 this guy just does not like me. 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.440 But you know, where were you riding at the time. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.640 I was probably still at Gelotnik and I might have 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.480 also been writing for a site I don't even know 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.800 what's around anymore called The Truth about Cars. But that, yeah, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.280 I started in I started writing about cars two thousand 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:55.640 and five. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.080 Do you always want to do that? 0:12:59.120 --> 0:12:59.240 Like? 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:00.400 Yeah, in a. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.959 Way, like like you know, I love cars my whole 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.240 I was just telling this story. I was trying to 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.160 explain to a younger kid how lucky they are. Like 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.200 where I lived, there was a there was a hill 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:11.839 a grow up in Thousand Oaks, and there was like 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.760 the rich people lived on top of the hill. And 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:17.080 I knew up there a guy had a Lamborghini Yalpa 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.559 and it was green and it never moved. Now, the 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.600 reason never moved is because I couldn't move. I didn't 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.520 know that, and I could ride my bike up the 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.360 hill and like once a week or more I would 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:26.960 go up there just to look at it. Because at 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.920 the time, nobody made a Yaulpa poster. There was no 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.440 Yelpas on television, there was no internet. Maybe once every 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.040 four years, road and Track and a black and white 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.640 photo would have a picture of a Yaalpa. 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:39.199 That's it. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.599 That's that's that's how you saw a Yalpa unless you 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.880 got a Lamborghini book, which there really weren't any Lamborghini books. 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.800 So, like, you know, I was I've always been super 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:49.480 into cars. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.120 I used to I've always been a writer, and I 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.760 used to write like fiction stories based on what I'd 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.600 read in you know, Car and Driver about like you know, 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.880 the hero would drive a GTI, because like a gt 0:13:59.920 --> 0:14:02.320 I was like a big deal in like nineteen eighty whatever. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.200 You know, I've read like these like horrible James Bond 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.720 rip off stories where the guy's driving a GTI, because 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.320 that really appealed to me, you know. And then yeah, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:11.760 I did a bunch of others, a lot of other 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.840 stuff in my life. And then I was twenty five, 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.680 I found myself unemployed. I was doing like software dot 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.640 com bubble burst, and I was back in LA and 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.360 I cold called Motor Trend and they were basically like, yeah, kid, 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:23.200 you'll never work here. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.560 They actually gave me good advice. I just chose not 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.200 to listen to it. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:26.680 Uh. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.200 And then fast forward and I'm I'm a webmaster at 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.040 cal Arts, the art school up by Magic Mountain, and 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.600 I turned thirty and I couldn't figure out a way. 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:38.160 To goof off. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.480 I was so bored, like I'd reached the end of 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.960 the Internet. And in this like voice is realization hit 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:45.920 me and it's like, if you don't get up out 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.880 of this chair now, you're gonna turn forty sitting in 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.360 this little tiny office by yourself, another decade of your 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.400 life gone, like do something. And it was a real 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.040 like panic attack moment. And this truth about cars at 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.480 the time was just one guy, Robert Farrago, and I 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.200 send him an email like I want to I want 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:05.880 to write about cars, and he said, go find a 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.800 car and review it. And it was a it was 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:11.760 this remember the SABERU the SOB ninety two X, which 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.800 was a WRX wagon, uh dressed up as a SOB. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.760 So my buddy had one. I hey, can I borrow 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.480 your car? And I took it up Angela's Crest and 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.600 like wrote a review, and you know, long story short, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.120 he was like, yeah, okay, that's pretty good. I'll send 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.160 you a press car. And then the rest is sort 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:26.880 of history. And now I've been a motor trend like 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:27.960 over thirteen years. 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:28.480 Wow. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.800 So yeah, so pretty. 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.320 Crazy, but like it was, yeah, it was a real 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.280 like better start moving type of realization. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.880 What is awesome about being able to sit down with 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.800 someone and getting to know them? I was like, what 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:02.520 keeps Johnny's like headlights on high beam? Because I meant 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.120 I used this. I used that kind of phrase a lot, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.760 like when I meet people that are even younger than me, 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.920 I go, dude, your headlights are damn in life? Like 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.960 you're like you're just kind of in neutral, just kind 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.400 of coasting through life. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:17.680 Right. 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.280 Then you meet people all different ages, right and they're 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.880 like the redlining through life. It's awesome, right, It's like 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.120 I want to live like that and going back to 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.840 and I want to put emphasis on that at thirty, Yeah, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.560 you had the courage because it's it's not it's easy 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.640 to just say and kind of overlook, but to go 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.920 I am uncomfortable going out like this. I'm going to 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.720 go fucking chase my dream. 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.640 Life is precious and short and fleeting, and like, just 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.920 take advantage of the time that you have here because 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.000 it doesn't last forever, you know, it just really doesn't. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.200 Where'd you get that? 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:56.000 I don't know. 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:00.640 Look, I mean probably my dad died real suddenly when 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.920 I was twenty five, our heart attack and died. I 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.959 think that had a lot to do with it. And 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.640 then recently we were talking about dog dying. I've had 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.399 like people dying. I mean it hasn't been that reason, 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.480 but like a few years ago, like I you know, 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:16.480 it was like the Davy who I was talking about. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:20.240 I want my mother in law, my mother, my sister, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.640 my best friend, they all died kind of like every 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:25.919 six months one of them was dropping. Yeah, you know, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.840 and then you have you know, if you have children, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.040 you know that like they just don't stop growing, you know, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.520 and like it's it's getting to the point where my 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.560 kid's about to turn seven, and like I can still 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.240 hug him and snuggle him. But like sometimes it's like, no, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.480