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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Car Stories with Sun.

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Speaker 2: Kane and Amelia Hartford.

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Speaker 1: So, Amelia, question for you, oh dear, when you go

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Speaker 1: to a place like Starbucks or Baskin Robbins, right, and

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Speaker 1: you pay with a credit card okay, and then they

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Speaker 1: flipped the screen over to you and there's like.

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Speaker 2: Tip, tip, always, always tip everything, Tip a lot.

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Speaker 1: You've at the grocery store.

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Speaker 2: I am so thankful to have an income and be

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Speaker 2: in the position I am in, and I worked in

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Speaker 2: food and service for so long in my life. Always tip.

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Speaker 2: I'm a thirty percent or more person.

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Speaker 1: But what if they didn't do anything?

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Speaker 3: Tip? Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in a better position there, and if I

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Speaker 2: can help, that's all that matters.

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Speaker 1: God, you're so much better human being there.

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Speaker 2: You don't like tipping?

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Speaker 1: No, I love to tip, Like I worked in the

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Speaker 1: service industry forever, so when I'm at a restaurant, like,

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Speaker 1: I make sure that you know people are taken care of. Right. However,

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Speaker 1: when I feel pressured, like you buy a bottle of

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Speaker 1: water and it's like a dollar ninety nine and then

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Speaker 1: there's a thirty percent tip option for that and they

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Speaker 1: didn't It's not like, look, I'm about like being fair.

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Speaker 1: It's like if you did something.

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Speaker 2: So here, here's the thing. If they were to raise

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Speaker 2: the minimum wage and pay people more, they're just gonna

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Speaker 2: make the cost of goods more. So there's no they're

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Speaker 2: not going to raise them in on wage. So I

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Speaker 2: feel like we as people who are fortunate enough to

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Speaker 2: be able to help someone else's income, that's our responsibility

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Speaker 2: because the big business isn't going to do.

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Speaker 1: Why don't they just raise the prices of the food then, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't mind.

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Speaker 2: They do, they will? They wild?

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Speaker 1: Why do I have it?

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Speaker 2: But not everyone can afford raising the prices of food.

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Speaker 1: Starbucks can.

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Speaker 2: People who are buying, Well, have you picked in and

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Speaker 2: out now? Or double double?

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Speaker 1: It's over ten dollars, So that's that's inflation, right, But

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Speaker 1: they don't ask for a tip. How come in and

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Speaker 1: out doesn't ask for a tip?

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Speaker 2: Well, they pay their their people, I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So so but Starbucks cannot like Starbucks is.

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Speaker 2: Way bigger, Well, they could and they I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: Starbucks will actually help pay for your college and give

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Speaker 2: you health.

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Speaker 1: Care for your college. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to tipping, I'm just a tip always

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Speaker 2: tip generously.

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Speaker 1: Bad service, even.

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Speaker 2: For bad service for twenty Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Bad service, bad food, and you'll still tip. Yeah, bad attitude.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're having a bad day.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, I'm a tipper.

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Speaker 4: Huh.

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Speaker 1: The tipping thing is like very stressful for me.

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Speaker 2: That's why I don't think about it. I'm in a

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Speaker 2: position where I can help someone more than I need it,

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Speaker 2: don't think about it. I tip.

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Speaker 1: I went to the drive through with Teedji to go

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Speaker 1: get them a pop cup and myself a drink, and

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Speaker 1: they pull out the credit card thing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I tapped it and they had to tip. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then we met eyes. It's just one. I was like,

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Speaker 1: they're like, I know you, what do I tip? And

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Speaker 1: I was trying to press like the one dollar thing

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Speaker 1: all right, and then I dropped the credit card and

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Speaker 1: there was like a whole fi. I had to move

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Speaker 1: the car up and like come out of the car

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Speaker 1: and she's just like I looked at her and I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, she's thinking.

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Speaker 4: You cheap.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's only awkward because you make it awkward?

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Speaker 1: They make it awkward. Why why is this? Like why

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Speaker 1: is it that there's the thing is like at this

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Speaker 1: place I've paid cash before and there's no tip jar.

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Speaker 1: I've seen tip jars, well not at this place, so

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Speaker 1: there's no tip jar. So I'm like, I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: If I pay cash, you're not you're not asked to

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Speaker 1: leave a tip. But then with the credit card it's

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Speaker 1: like three dollars twenty five cents option for one thing. Anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so all right, I'm not going to win this argument.

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Speaker 1: There's no argument here. It's just it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a perfect It's also a new.

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Speaker 1: Thing because to Japan there's no tips.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's not. They actually, in fact, they get insulted

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Speaker 2: when you try to offer a tip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's something wrong with this tip culture.

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Speaker 2: It's the cost of going out. It is what it is.

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Speaker 2: If you don't like it, don't go there.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I can't control it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: When I get a Domino's pizza delivery, I tip huge

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Speaker 1: because it's the best pizza. Well, all right, so speaking

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Speaker 1: of best, our next guest old friend Johnny Lieberman, Yes,

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Speaker 1: co host of The Inevitable with our one of our

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Speaker 1: past guests, Ed Low, an old friend as well.

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Speaker 2: Johnny holds a high level position within the motor tren

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Speaker 2: family and very knowledgeable, knows a lot about cars, and

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Speaker 2: we had a conversation that I wasn't expecting to have

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Speaker 2: and he was a complete open book.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool to be able to have car conversations

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Speaker 1: about cool cars and racing and all that. But then

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Speaker 1: you know, I have like a vulnerable like talk, right,

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Speaker 1: and then be able to share things. I think probably

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Speaker 1: most of the listeners wouldn't imagine, like you go through

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Speaker 1: the war, I go through, he goes through, and then

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Speaker 1: that they were all human.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to be able to I always say, if

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Speaker 2: I'm not learning something, I kind of don't get as

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Speaker 2: interested in it. That's why I love cars. So I'm

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Speaker 2: constantly learning, and I feel like these conversations we have

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Speaker 2: with people, I'm constantly learning things, which I find a

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Speaker 2: gift and so interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, just like the gift of a Dumbinos pizza.

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Speaker 1: All right, without further ado, it's you're a dog guy too, right,

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Speaker 1: you have a dog, just one at the moment we've

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Speaker 1: had a couple, had a coupling.

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Speaker 2: They come and go, what kind of dog you have?

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Speaker 4: Now, Mutt? She let me, is we.

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Speaker 5: Saw her mom. Her mom is a Wiener dog. Dad

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Speaker 5: is taller and fluffier, but no clue. We found her

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Speaker 5: at the pound. Yeah, she's she's getting up there, but

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Speaker 5: she's she's still pretty cute. Pretty stinky at this point,

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Speaker 1: It's hard when though they pass on.

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Speaker 5: I mean we had what well, yeah, yes, yes, it's

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Speaker 5: horrible when they passed. I've had I've had one almost

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Speaker 5: killed me and another one was pretty sad. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: actually I've had three. Yeah, it sucks. It's one of

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Speaker 5: the worst things. Yeah, I went there next to a

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Speaker 5: person dying.

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Speaker 1: It is it's like a child like dying. When my

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Speaker 1: previous dog, we had actually three, we had two chowchows.

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Speaker 1: One was really connected to my wife, Simba. The female

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Speaker 1: was like really attached to me. Yeah, and went and

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Speaker 1: and we had a Maltese that Simba actually killed Jesus.

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Speaker 4: But that's horrible.

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Speaker 1: But but Simba waited for me to come back from

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Speaker 1: Germany like I was working. I came back, I come

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Speaker 1: into the house. She jumps to give me a kiss,

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Speaker 1: and then she lays down and then and then I

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Speaker 1: took her to the vet and then Bet said, you

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Speaker 1: have to go get an MRI because there's something wrong

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Speaker 1: with her. But she was like thirteen already, right. And

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Speaker 1: then it was like during the pink Berry kind of craze,

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Speaker 1: Remember pink Berry the yogurt place. It was like dead

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Speaker 1: summer and I was like driving to the MRI place

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Speaker 1: and Simba was in the back seat and she started, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, breathing hard. So I pulled over and I

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Speaker 1: took her out of the car and she just passed

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Speaker 1: away in my arm and I started. It was like

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Speaker 1: out of a movie. I was like crying and like

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Speaker 1: yelling at God, and snot was coming down my nose

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Speaker 1: and I'm like ah. And then I look up and

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Speaker 1: all these kids are eating their pink berry going like.

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Speaker 6: This man was holding this dead dog, Like I look

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Speaker 6: up and all, okay, I think we'll wrap this up

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Speaker 6: real quick. Yeah it's horrible. Yeah, I could have do

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Speaker 6: another dog forever.

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Speaker 2: This is a great way to start a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but it's also you know, and then

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Speaker 1: when we got Tedgi, if a dog's life span is

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Speaker 1: like ten to thirteen years, thirteen is like.

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Speaker 5: That depends if little dogs live longer's that's you know,

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Speaker 5: so a little dog in fifteen years can be pretty normal.

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Speaker 2: Big dogs live like eight years eight ten.

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Speaker 4: It depends on the size.

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Speaker 1: That's like that.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah right, oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: He's already four. So he reminds me of knife is short, right,

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Speaker 1: and go for some cuddles and kisses right as much

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Speaker 1: as you can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, well said bring it in after the show.

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Speaker 1: Well, Johnny, thank.

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Speaker 2: You so much, thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 4: This is so cool.

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Speaker 5: This is I mean again good to run into you

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Speaker 5: at the best green barbecue in La.

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Speaker 1: Yes, parks barbecue.

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Speaker 2: Starting each other parks.

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Speaker 1: You know parks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love parks.

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Speaker 1: You love parks? Do you love parks?

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Speaker 4: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So we have a mutual friend Saying Saying.

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Speaker 1: Saying is a restaurant or he owns Father's office. He's

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Speaker 1: a big car guy. He's been on your show, a huge,

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Speaker 1: huge car like official.

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Speaker 5: So funny story. So say Father's office. It's actually the

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Speaker 5: one in Santa Monica is now I think twenty four years.

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Speaker 4: Old as of last week.

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Speaker 5: So I used to be really into homebrewing and I

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Speaker 5: was in this beer club and we had our meeting there.

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Speaker 5: This is back in like two thousand and one, and

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Speaker 5: he had the best beer at the time, you couldn't

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Speaker 5: find good beer anywhere, just didn't exist in restaurants, and

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Speaker 5: he had like Pliny the Elder on.

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Speaker 2: Tap I love plenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but again, this is twenty one years ago, twenty

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Speaker 5: three years ago anyways, and I'm like who is this guy?

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Speaker 4: Like who? And they're like, oh, I sang, but he's

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Speaker 4: a real dick.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: Everyone likes me, and I remember I walk up, I

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Speaker 4: like tap him on.

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Speaker 5: The shoulder and I'm like, hey man, like you have

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Speaker 5: the this is amazing, what a cool restaurant. And he

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Speaker 5: literally just like looks at me and turns his back. Really,

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Speaker 5: I say a word, just turns his back to me,

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, fuck that guy. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: we can swear on this fuckcast. Okay, great sucked this

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Speaker 5: guy and I didn't. I had nothing to do with him.

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Speaker 5: I stopped going to father's office. They got a good burger.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, the owner's an asshole. And then on Instagram,

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Speaker 5: I get a message like hey man, like we should

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like life's almost over? You're not You're

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Speaker 5: No, but you know what, I hang out with older

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Speaker 5: and just like I just want to take advantage of

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00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 5: the time. I want to make the most of this

443
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 5: this really crazy sitting here on this like little tiny

444
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 5: rock orbiting a small sun on the edge of a galaxy,

445
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 5: Like it's pretty rare that you get, you know, seventy

446
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 5: eighty ninety years on this rock, like take advantage of it.

447
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,920
Speaker 1: Do you see a fifty year old and go, god dang,

448
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 1: that's all?

449
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,479
Speaker 2: No, not at all. What scares me and what prompts

450
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 2: the question is how fast life goes. Because I really

451
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 2: feel like the last decade of my life like went

452
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 2: by so fast. And I heard the analogy of like

453
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 2: a toilet paper roll when your baby, you're just at

454
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,919
Speaker 2: the beginning and the next thing you know, it's like

455
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 2: almost at the end. Because for a.

456
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: Lot of because I heard that before, it is good

457
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 1: at altitude though.

458
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,240
Speaker 2: Because as you get older, it goes faster and faster.

459
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 2: Because like when you're a kid and you're in school

460
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 2: the end of class, you're looking at the clock, You're like,

461
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 2: how's this going so slow? And then needs to get

462
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: older at links and then I imagine at least place

463
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 2: some people I talk to, the older you get, the

464
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 2: quicker it gets. And that's what scares me because I

465
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: want I don't want it to go buy too fast.

466
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: How about you, Johnny? I remember in my twenties time

467
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 1: was slow. Yeah, Like I was like, geez, get to

468
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 1: the weekend, come on, mane. Now I wake up and

469
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 1: it's seven pm.

470
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 4: It is. You're right, it is.

471
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 5: It is really funny. How if I have something to

472
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 5: do that week, it's just there instantly. It's like there's

473
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: used to be like, oh, that's on Thursday, like this podcast,

474
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,120
Speaker 5: like that's in four days, but it's like it's Monday.

475
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,160
Speaker 4: Now it's Thursday, and it is quick.

476
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 5: But I think, uh, having kids in my case, like

477
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 5: that really sped up time because I still you know,

478
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 5: your phone's like six years ago today and I'm like,

479
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 5: how was that six years ago? Like he what, it's

480
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 5: the same kid, you know, And it's like really, I

481
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 5: think kind of distorts time in a way. But then

482
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 5: at the same time, like if I stop, that's the

483
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 5: thing is it's rare to like stop and not just

484
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 5: go write on your phone. If you stop and think

485
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,199
Speaker 5: about I think about what I've done in my you know,

486
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,440
Speaker 5: car career. It's like I could write a really good

487
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 5: book because I've done so much, you know, Like it's it's.

488
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: Crazy, would you write a book.

489
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 5: I've always wanted to write a book. I don't know

490
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 5: who would read it, but I've always wanted to write

491
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 5: a bit read it, Okay, yeah, you know, because it's

492
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 5: just like I've I've done some like pretty wild stuff,

493
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 5: and you know, but it's also like you know that

494
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 5: there's also the temptation to do like a tell all,

495
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 5: you know, because I know I've seen some. But it's

496
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 5: also like I really want like an inside baseball of

497
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,479
Speaker 5: a very obscure industry.

498
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: I want to know all about ed.

499
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 5: No, I'll tell you there's a lot to tell.

500
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: There's there's a lot to tell. Uh yeah, yeah.

501
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 5: He put he presents swell as you said, he dresses

502
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: up for. I don't know, is it like insanely narcissistic

503
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 5: to like I'm going to write a book about me?

504
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: You know, like probably think so.

505
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 5: But if it's interesting, it's interesting, you know what I mean? So,

506
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 5: and like I've just done some wild stuff, you know.

507
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: So what's the craziest It's funny.

508
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 5: The one that pops in my head when I said

509
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 5: that is well, it was I was trying to go

510
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty miles an hour in the Bugatti

511
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 5: Sharon Uh.

512
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 2: Supersport and.

513
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 5: Florida h Space Shuttle runway and like, you know, you're

514
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 5: doing the driver's meeting and they're like, so, you know,

515
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: keep your visor down, uh, because even though you got

516
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 5: a windshield. Like if a bird comes through at you know,

517
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 5: two hundred and some odd miles an hour, it'll it'll

518
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 5: kill you, so, you know, one extra layer of protection.

519
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, oh.

520
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 5: And if there's alligators on the runway, like don't hit them,

521
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 5: try and go around them, like you don't want to

522
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 5: turned too much. But it's pretty wide, and as we're

523
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 5: driving up to it, there's just alligators everywhere.

524
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 4: Luckily they weren't on their runway.

525
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 5: And then the way we did it was we did

526
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty mile an hour run, a two

527
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 5: hundred mile an hour run with a guy in the car,

528
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 5: and then he gets out for the two fifty.

529
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 4: But as we're doing you know, two hundred and eleven

530
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 4: miles an hour, there's birds. They go right over to

531
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: the top.

532
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 5: They were both like down, you know, like okay, maybe

533
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: they knew what they were talking about.

534
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 4: But I go, I do it, and they're very adamant.

535
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: They're like, don't look down.

536
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 5: At the speedo, just floor it and hold it and

537
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: you know, go for eleven thousand feet or whatever it was.

538
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 5: And when you see the flags, lift and hit the brakes.

539
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 5: So I do that, and I'm like yeah, you know,

540
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 5: two fifty. I get back there and they look at

541
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 5: the data. It's like, now you went two forty five.

542
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, what you know? I was welded to the

543
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 4: floor and they're like, yeah, we don't know. Do it again.

544
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 5: Well it was really dumb to say do it again

545
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 5: because the protocol was they changed the tires every time

546
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 5: you go.

547
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: You know, those are.

548
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: Expensive tires, aren't they, or that as that was old

549
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: in the day. It was like ten thousand of tire

550
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: for the Bugattis for the.

551
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 5: Veryron tires had they were like they were like impregnated

552
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 5: with carbon fiber.

553
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 4: Uh, they were very unique to the varn.

554
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 5: These I believe were just like Vayron Spec Michelin Pilot

555
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 5: Sports Cup twos.

556
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 4: So it is expensive, but it's not like yeah, no,

557
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: what it.

558
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 2: Was like forty thousand for a full set.

559
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 5: I think it was more than that. I think it

560
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 5: was like sixty thousand for the physical tires. But they

561
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 5: and then but they were also they were bead locked,

562
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 5: so that the actually changing was a whole process and

563
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 5: it had to be done like in France, I don't

564
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 5: even ask. So no one had done a two hundred

565
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 5: and forty mile an hour run and then done another

566
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: one back to back. It was really a bad idea

567
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 5: because the tires were shot, they got heat cycled so much.

568
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: And I just went again, changing tires, just wind changed tires.

569
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 5: I just wanted to get it, and like the rain

570
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 5: was coming, you know it, you know it a one day,

571
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 5: you only had one chance, like do it, do it?

572
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 5: So I went and it turned out the reason why

573
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 5: I couldn't go faster than two forty five on that

574
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 5: first run was that there was crosswinds, and so when

575
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 5: the crosswinds hit the car, it creates a vortex on

576
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: the other side that like pulls the car and it

577
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: just it just slows it down enough. So before we

578
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: knew that, one of the drivers said, hey, he goes.

579
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 5: You know, we built in a lot of safety margin.

580
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 5: So when you see the flags, just keep your foot

581
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 5: in it for another thousand feet or so.

582
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: Just count to one. Because by the way, at two hundred.

583
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 5: And you know, fifty miles an hour, you're going a

584
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 5: football field in like a second.

585
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really fast.

586
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: That's hard to get another five miles per hour though

587
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: in a second it is it is, So I.

588
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 4: Keep my foot welded.

589
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 5: But at about I remember I was looking this time,

590
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 5: so I'd done it before, and I'm going to stare

591
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 5: at the speedometer this time to make sure.

592
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 4: And at two hundred and.

593
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 5: Forty miles an hour, a wind hit and it was

594
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 5: like if I didn't turn the car, like I was

595
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 5: going to go off the runway.

596
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, because I've suddenly been redirected.

597
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: Is it right?

598
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: As you were looking down? It caught you off card.

599
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 5: It was just I was, you know, I'm doing this,

600
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 5: but it was just I just I felt something push

601
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 5: the car and it's like suddenly my trajectory was not

602
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 5: straight down the runway, it was at a thing. So

603
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 5: I had to do this at two hundred and forty

604
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 5: miles an hour, which was like, just saw my kid's face.

605
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: It was just Richard's face just popped into my head.

606
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 5: It was like oh. And then kept my foot and

607
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 5: it kept my foot and it just wouldn't go over

608
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 5: two forty. Came back in and said, I'm done.

609
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: I don't care.

610
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 5: You know, three hundred and ninety six kilometers an hour

611
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 5: is fine, it doesn't matter.

612
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 6: You know.

613
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 4: That was pretty wild.

614
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: And then I guess the other crazy thing I do

615
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: is I raised Pike's Peak in twenty twenty two and

616
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 5: that was, Yeah.

617
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 4: That wonderful, but also really I kind of got robbed.

618
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: It was like super foggy.

619
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: What car were you?

620
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 5: I was in a Porsche seventy eighteen, came in GT

621
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: four Club Sports.

622
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

623
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is kind of the worst car to do

624
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 5: Pike's Peak in because it's naturally aspirated and rear wheel drive,

625
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 5: Like you sort of want all wheel drive and as

626
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 5: much turbo charging as possible. So yeah, the car at

627
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 5: sea level makes four hundred and twenty horse power. At

628
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 5: the peak it was making about two hundred and fifty.

629
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 5: So it was a pretty slow way to go. And

630
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: I had seven days of practice of glorious, perfect sunny, clear,

631
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: dry weather. The race is Sunday morning, Saturday night ten

632
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 5: inches of snow, and then get there in the morning

633
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: it's raining and freezing. Track is wet, and then after

634
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: like the bottom quarter, it's just pure.

635
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 4: Fog all the way to the top.

636
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 5: Like I mean, like twenty I can show on my

637
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 5: phone afterwards, like twenty feet of visibility in front of you,

638
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 5: and you know, sheer eighteen hundred foot drops everywhere, and

639
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 5: you know, so I made it to the top.

640
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 4: I didn't crash. That was something.

641
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: Have you driven pikesbeak?

642
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: I haven't. It's on my bucket list to do.

643
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 4: You should do it. You'd be good for it, and

644
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: you'd be good at it. You got to do it.

645
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the bucket list.

646
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and don't not even bucketts. Just do it now,

647
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 5: you know. And I'm itching to go back. It's just

648
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 5: that like racing, you know, it costs a lot. Water's wet.

649
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 5: Racing is expensive, you know, just it really is.

650
00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that before. Yeah, I heard that's too

651
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: t shirt life. I've the more propular one I know

652
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: is to make a small fortune racing. It takes a

653
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: big one.

654
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, start with a large one, exactly right. Yeah, No,

655
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: I was. I was just everything's crazy. It's like you

656
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 5: gotta you gotta buy oxygen. I remember the morning I

657
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: was doing the middle section, like I didn't turn my

658
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: oxygen on, and my my crew chief was talking to

659
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: me and he's asked me some questions and I could

660
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: see the expression on his face was the way I

661
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 5: look at my kid when I know he's lying to me, Okay, what.

662
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: Really did you really wash your hands? You know?

663
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 5: And he's looking like that, and I'm staring back at him,

664
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: and he goes, is your oxygen on?

665
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 4: I no, he goes, turn your oxygen on?

666
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 5: Oh okay, And I remember I was trying to buckle

667
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 5: my seatbelt and I just I couldn't. I didn't have

668
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 5: to wear with the mental capacity to buckle my seatbeltesting yeah,

669
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 5: and then suddenly the oxygen's on. It's like, oh okay.

670
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 5: So it's it's a very weird, harsh environment and it's

671
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: just yeah, it's just it's a neat, neat, neat race

672
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 5: that if it if it wasn't a thing and you

673
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 5: today said hey, let's race up this mountain. Never happened

674
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: in a million years. It's just totally grandfathered in. There's

675
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: you know, I forget what it is, but like ten

676
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: percent of the field crashes in practice, fifteen percent crashes

677
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: during the race. Like it's a you know, the cars

678
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: are safe now, but they weren't always, you know, So

679
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: it's just it's just, yeah, it's nuts.

680
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: Every year, isn't there like a huge accident And there's.

681
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: A lot of accidents. Yeah.

682
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, I think it's like twenty

683
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: percent or twenty five percent of the field doesn't.

684
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: Make it to the top right now. If you google

685
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 4: Pike's Peak evo, you'll see this.

686
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: I was just thinking the EVO. Yeah, that was probably

687
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: one of the more famous crashes.

688
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 4: They named a corner after it, Evo Corner.

689
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he he was fine, The driver was was

690
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: okay from loping arm. There was a fine, but he

691
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: didn't you know, coulda or that car.

692
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 5: Went eighteen hundred feet end over and over end over

693
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: end or it was crazy and I think one broken arm.

694
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: There's two guys in the car, one broken arm. And

695
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 5: like they they did a video for Racaro the seat

696
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 5: maker about how great this is because the seats didn't fail. Yeah,

697
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: you know, and they got yeah, which which you've done

698
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: some racing, you know that not all cages are built equally.

699
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, whoever built their cage is a very good

700
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: cage builder.

701
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yeah again I can I'll show you more.

702
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: We're done.

703
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 5: And it's bad to talk about photos on a podcast,

704
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: I know, but like I got a picture from my

705
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: go Pro of the fog on EVO corner, and then

706
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 5: I was slided over to picture of the EVO going off,

707
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: just to show people like I could not see that corner.

708
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty feet.

709
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: That would have scared me a little too, not being

710
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: able to see what a cliff right there.

711
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: It was just weird because we had total perfect weather

712
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: for seven days straight and then the race itself. I

713
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 5: wasn't scared. I was just frustrated and annoyed because, like

714
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: I could.

715
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: I knew.

716
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: One shot. Well, anyone's driven in fog, even driving a

717
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: fog on the freeway, like all of a sudden, bam,

718
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: car you hit it because they're parked and you can't

719
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: see in front of you.

720
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: And again there could be a you know up there

721
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 5: the sheep, you know, a rock could have fallen.

722
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 4: Like the sheep like to grab the hay bales and

723
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: drag them all over the place.

724
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: Like it's it's really it's a weird race. I mean

725
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: that was the thing of the driver's meeting. They'd be like, okay, yeah,

726
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 5: so somebody saw a bear at four point thirty and

727
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: then there was some sheep up by engineer's corner, but

728
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 5: they seem to be off the track. Now a couple

729
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: of bowlders the size of bowling ball. But you know,

730
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 5: just avoid them all right, have fun.

731
00:31:36,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's crazy.

732
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Is your sign in to cars too. No, No, not really.

733
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: Do you think he will be?

734
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's in two you know.

735
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 5: This week he's into Minecraft uh and Minecraft Legos. Last

736
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 5: week he was into Harry Potter and Harry Potter Legos.

737
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: I got into cars probably when I was like nine

738
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 5: or ten, So I really like it hit me like

739
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: I always liked him and knew about him.

740
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: And your dad was a car guy, right, Yeah, he

741
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: had a Z.

742
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

743
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 5: I mean that's honestly, I believe my earliest memories.

744
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: I hate saying honestly.

745
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: I've been lying about everything else. This is one thing

746
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 5: is true. My dad, Yeah, he we I grew up

747
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: in Thousand Oaks, and so my dad used to love

748
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 5: to drive the Malibu canyons and so I, you know,

749
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 5: I remember this really well. He'd strap me into the

750
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 5: front seat in a car seat, and he had a

751
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: blow punked tape deck that had a microphone input and

752
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 5: you could record, and he used to like drive around

753
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: with me on like Decker canyon stuff and like you know, record,

754
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: you know, me talking to him and interesting, yeah, and

755
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: he'd play it back. So I have this real strong

756
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: memory of that, probably the one memory, not probably one

757
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 5: hundred percent with when I was like nine or ten,

758
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: my dad's from Montreal, and we were back in Montreal

759
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 5: and in Old Town Montreal, which is like gray cobblestone streets,

760
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 5: there was an orange Coontash, you know, and especially this

761
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: would have been probably like eighty four. At that point,

762
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: they'd only built like a couple hundred, you know. The

763
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: total run of the Kuntash was probably like fifteen hundred

764
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 5: cars total, but that really ramped up towards the end,

765
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 5: you know, like post eighty six and on. So like

766
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: in eighty four, he just didn't see Coontashes, you know,

767
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 5: even living in La But here was an orange one

768
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: on the gray cobblestone streets in old town. And my

769
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 5: dad liked cars enough that he'd let me just just

770
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: blew my mind. I like short circuited, and I just

771
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: stood there like gaping. There's nothing looked like at the time.

772
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 5: Now there's a lot of things that are shaped like

773
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: the Cuntash. But at the time, all cars were front engine,

774
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 5: rear drive. There was no mid and the mirror before it,

775
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 5: which was mid engine, looked like a front engine car,

776
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 5: you know, So it just looked like a classic sports car.

777
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: The Cuontash was so new, so unique, and yeah, it

778
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: him it out for a decade or so, but I was,

779
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 5: you know, I was nine, what did I know? And

780
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 5: that like the second after that, it was just cars, cars, cars, cars, cars,

781
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: and that's just all I cared about.

782
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: That experience to go to a car dealership with my

783
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: stepdadd It was like one of the memories that I

784
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: still vividly recall to watch him like negotiate, go for

785
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: test drives. The whole experience was this like wonderful experience

786
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: that I wanted to actually share with my nephew. My

787
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: nephew was staying with us to the freshman in high school,

788
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: and so he would be around like, you know the

789
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: cars that I have, and I was like, you know what,

790
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: We're going to go and experience how to buy a car.

791
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 4: What car would you like.

792
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: When you turned sixteen? And he's like cheap? So I

793
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: took him to a Jeep dealer and we met the

794
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: salesman at the lot and it was this guy. He

795
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: had just started there very excited that the guy from

796
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, the Fast movies are there, and I was like,

797
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: hey man, I really want to share this experience with

798
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: my nephew, and I let my nephew like pick the car,

799
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: and he's like, okay, we're going to go for a

800
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: test drive. And the car was like in the storage

801
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: area and the parking lot. Okay, right, And I have

802
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: never driven the Jeep before, and it was a manual

803
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: because I was like, hey, so if we're gonna buy

804
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: a Jeep, you gotta buy a manual. So I'm driving

805
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: the car. He first of all, he doesn't take my license.

806
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: There's like this is his first day, and he's just excited,

807
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: right yeah. And so he's in the back seat, my

808
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: nephews in the front seat, and I'm driving the car

809
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: and we get to this incline. I go, hey, dude,

810
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: lift up the gate and he's like, I thought it's automatic.

811
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: So he gets out and he's like the intercom and

812
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: nothing's happening. He's like, hey man, no one's answering. So

813
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I think we got to take the car back and

814
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: we got to go downstairs, and I was like all right,

815
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: and I thought I put the car reverse and boom,

816
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: I slam into the gate right and it's just like boom,

817
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, oh, this is not good. Right,

818
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: And I was like what do I do? And he

819
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: goes the car. I go, how do I put the

820
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: car in reverse? You have to lift it up and

821
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: pull it. There's like some weird thing, right yeah. And

822
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know do this man, I go,

823
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: come here, you don't know anything about the car. I

824
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: put it in reverse and he goes, okay, and he

825
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: does something and I'm like all right, and now we're

826
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: like way at the bottom. I gotta give it some gas,

827
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: so I do it again. And now I'm in.

828
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: The gate.

829
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Gate.

830
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: You when did this happen?

831
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to say is wrapped around the Now

832
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: he's going to remember those calculating how much damage this is?

833
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: This is like what a great experience. And he's just like,

834
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: oh my god, finally we figure it out.

835
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: I get the car of your surfaces on the internete

836
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: of you slamming.

837
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: It's now it's this is it's a ship show. It's

838
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: had a little fender bender this thing, and I'm like

839
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: looking and I'm looking at this, dude, I go, this

840
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: car is jacked up. Man, this it's like not look.

841
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, this is going to cost the

842
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: amount of the value of the car, right, And I'm

843
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: looking at him and he goes, just leave and I

844
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: was like what. He goes, it's my fault. Just leave

845
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, but you're gonna get fired, and

846
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: he goes, I don't like this job anyway, right, So anyway,

847
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, this is crazy and we so

848
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: we go home and fast forward last week, right, I

849
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: was at AutoZone picking up something.

850
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: Was he working there?

851
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 5: No?

852
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: No, no, And I'm like and the guy's like, hey, what's up?

853
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's up? And he goes, hey, man,

854
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I heard that you like crushed this right into the gate.

855
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, who told you that? He goes,

856
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: My buddy is like one of my best friends. And

857
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: I go what happened to him? He goes with that job.

858
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: That is my experience.

859
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: I mean, well, the good news is that there's a

860
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: dealer lot insurance thing. So it's like an eighteen hundred

861
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 5: dollars deductible fixes all that.

862
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah? Yeah, okay, so I don't feel so bad.

863
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: Don't ask me how I know that.

864
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 5: But no, I was gonna say, but like that that

865
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: dealership experience, yeah, like like.

866
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: How there's no real segue. You're doing a great jobship experience.

867
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna be fantastic for him. He'll never forget

868
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: this experience. It was, it was.

869
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 5: It was hard to explain because again just before the internet,

870
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 5: like I remember when Lexis appeared, this was this was

871
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 5: huge because it was like late eighties, forty thousand dollars

872
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 5: for a Japanese car, which was unheard of, you know,

873
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 5: I mean that Mercedes cost that much. And I remember

874
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 5: my dad's like, we got to go see this thing.

875
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: It was like they had an event at the local.

876
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 5: It was a Cadillac dealer that also suddenly was Lexus,

877
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 5: and we went down there and it was at night

878
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 5: and they had an LUs four hundred under spotlights.

879
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 4: And it was just like look at it. It's like this.

880
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 5: Looks incredible and like and they do stuff like that now.

881
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 5: But I think I feel like for the most part,

882
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 5: you see stuff on the internet.

883
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: Even with the Internet. My first experience with the Seat

884
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: Corvette was I it was touring. I was like, I

885
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: need to go find a dealership that houses car in

886
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: the showroom. And I convinced this dealership to let me

887
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: like film a video like thirty minutes before they open

888
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: and just walk around and show it and I was

889
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: like geeking out. It's so cool to even if you

890
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: see something online or not at all, to just see

891
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: it in person is such a different experience.

892
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

893
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 5: Look, until you see a car in sunlight, I always

894
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 5: feel like you haven't really seen the thing, like.

895
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 4: You know, like two D photos or video.

896
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: And that's one thing like when you actually like lay

897
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 5: your hands on it, see how the paint reflects in sunlight.

898
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: You know, that's that's you get the full.

899
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 5: Measure of the car.

900
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

901
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Do you think your sun will or this generous your

902
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: song generation is going to be able to appreciate cars

903
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: like you did?

904
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I look like the way I did was

905
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: really weird, you know. I like I said, I was

906
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 5: riding up a hill to go look at the go

907
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 5: by myself.

908
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

909
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure you know of what you've done with

910
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 5: your movies, because what if you've done you know the videos.

911
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 4: I used to make.

912
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 5: I mean I meet people all the time, like do

913
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 5: everything I know about cars I learned from watching your videos,

914
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 5: Like oh you know, so I think I think we're

915
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 5: creating enthusiasm, you know, and like like my but the

916
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: reason I ran into you at Parks is because I

917
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 5: had that Porstra of the g T three RS.

918
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is uh I drive that car. Yeah driven,

919
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing.

920
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: I haven't drawn it, but I love your stories with it,

921
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: and it looks very nice.

922
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 5: I really connected with that car. But by my my

923
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 5: nephew's fourteen, he's like uncle Johnny called me. That never

924
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 5: called me Uncle Johnny. Do you think maybe, like you know,

925
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 5: I haven't seen you in a while, we go out

926
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 5: to dinner. Yeah, sure, could you bring the Porsche. It's

927
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: like I can bring the porch, so you know, And

928
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 5: like I said, like the thing we do together is

929
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 5: when a new fast and Furius comes out, I take him.

930
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: You know, that's our like, that's our thing.

931
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: On a personal note, yeah, uh, what do you feel

932
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: like your dad taught you as a father that you

933
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: have taken and applied to your own relationship question?

934
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 4: God? Uh, you know it's funny. I've done a lot of.

935
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 5: Therapy, especially recently because, like like I said, had a

936
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 5: series of deaths that were just like devastating. I remember

937
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 5: my dad and at the time it just seemed very normal,

938
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 5: and then when he wasn't around, I was like, this

939
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 5: is weird. All my dad would do is like talk

940
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 5: to me about science. He really didn't know history or science.

941
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: He really never like it was never like how you doing,

942
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 5: what are you doing at school? Didn't never came up.

943
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: You know, all my friends were little idiots. All he

944
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: wanted to do was tell me about like World War

945
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 5: two and science.

946
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 4: That's it.

947
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 5: And so I remember, like, you know, going out to

948
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 5: lums with them all the time, and we would talk

949
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 5: about the general theory of relativity and you know, but

950
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 5: so I was able to this morning this morning, you know,

951
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 5: I remember my dad doing the same thing. I'm like, Richard,

952
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 5: if you're in a train and I'm standing outside the train,

953
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 5: and I, you know, I think you're going sixty miles

954
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: an hour, and then if you throw a baseball on

955
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 5: the train, to you, the baseball is going sixty miles

956
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 5: an hour. But to me, I see the baseball is

957
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 5: going one hundred and twenty because it has the speed

958
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 5: of the train, it has the speed of the ball.

959
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: So that's that's relativity. It depends on where you are,

960
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 4: you know.

961
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 5: So my dad has been good for stuff like that,

962
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 5: and he was, you know, was a wonderful man, kind

963
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 5: man all that stuff like, was he what you know,

964
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 5: did he give me equipment for life, Like, wow, if

965
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 5: I would have been a scientist or a historian. Maybe

966
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 5: he was a good storyteller, and I'm pretty good at

967
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: telling stories, so maybe he gave me that. But I

968
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 5: try and be I always wanted more time with my dad.

969
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, he worked when he started his

970
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 5: own business, he was working fourteen hour days and you know,

971
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 5: so I'm trying to be real present in Richard's life,

972
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: and I haven't been traveling as much. So yeah, I

973
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 5: don't know that was a good answer or not, but that.

974
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Was That's a great answer.

975
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Did you say you lost your mom also recently?

976
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 4: Yeah? I lost me. Yeah, in two thousand and twenty one.

977
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: So you've lost both your parents.

978
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 5: And my sister. Yeah, wow, I'm in well, I guess

979
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 5: my son, but yeah, yeah, my sister had a freaky,

980
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 5: like out of the blue heart attack, and my mom

981
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 5: was really sick for years and years and years. She

982
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 5: had like five different types of cancer and and that

983
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: wasn't even what killed her. I mean she had a

984
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: million different maladies. You know, my best friend, you know,

985
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 5: overdeed thought he was doing heroin, was doing fentanyl. Mother

986
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 5: in law had an aneurysm, Davy, you.

987
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 4: Know, drowned in a river. It was craziness. Wow, it

988
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: was all within like two and a half years. It

989
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 4: was a lot. That was a lot. But it's been

990
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: it's been a lot better since no one, no one

991
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 4: closes died, so it's been nice.

992
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: But I mean there was a time where it's like

993
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 5: every six months, like, well, who's it going to be?

994
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: Oh shit?

995
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: Was there one thing that you learned in therapy that

996
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: helped you the most?

997
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about thing, but I was very angry.

998
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 4: I was very angry, and I was very angry.

999
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 5: I had a very loving childhood. Nothing bad happened, but

1000
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: my parents communicated through screaming. My mom was a yeller.

1001
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: My dad was very quiet, very quiet until he wasn't.

1002
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: Then he was screaming.

1003
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: And I sort of learned that like.

1004
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 5: That's how you are, and like, you know, everyone in

1005
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 5: my family was screaming at all times. It's fine and

1006
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: that like, Nope, that's actually not the way to be

1007
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: to have these like crazy angry outbursts. And and I,

1008
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: you know, I just just sort of like trying to

1009
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: be a good person. I wouldn't yell, but I was

1010
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 5: I would get like enraged about stuff that I couldn't control,

1011
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 5: and therapy really helped me with that. And I had

1012
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 5: a lot of anger that all these people died. I

1013
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 5: was very angry about it. I wanted to like lash

1014
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: out about it, and we spent a lot of time

1015
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 5: exploring that, like, well, you know, where's this anger coming from?

1016
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 4: So I think that was My wife commented that, she said,

1017
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: you know, you're a lot calmer these days.

1018
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: Do you like have a mantra? Do you tell yourself

1019
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: something or like when you get angry, do you just

1020
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: recognize it and say there's nothing to get angry about.

1021
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1022
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: And I also like, when you're a parent, you realize

1023
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 5: this that like children model their behavior on the way

1024
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 5: you act. And so when I see my son, like

1025
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 5: if you can't do a math problem or something, I'm like, boy,

1026
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 5: he's getting that from me, you know what I mean.

1027
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: So you try, and you try and like cool it down.

1028
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: It seems like therapy is something that people that haven't

1029
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: gone through therapy they kind of dismiss it or they

1030
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: don't give it any credit, and then go through it

1031
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: and you're like, holy mokes, it's like finding the owner's

1032
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: mailua all of a sudden.

1033
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yes, right, analogy, Yeah, right.

1034
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's right. What's an owner's manual? It's an explanation.

1035
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 5: And so this woman she was able to like, you know,

1036
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 5: I think you're angry because of this.

1037
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been very helpful.

1038
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: I thank you so much for your willingness to be

1039
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: open and share that. Yeah, because I think a lot

1040
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: of the listeners that look up to you, that follow you,

1041
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: that connect with you, like with cars and stuff, I

1042
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: think we forget that you're a car enthusiast, but you're

1043
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: still human beings. Sure, you know, there's things that break down,

1044
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: and sometimes you need another person you look up to

1045
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: and going, hey, they break down like me too.

1046
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1047
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: It's easy to look at Instagram and see a highlight

1048
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: reel or any of that. But yeah, it's really kind

1049
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: of you, involved of you to open up and feel comfortable,

1050
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: and I thank you for feeling comfortable with us to

1051
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: talk about it.

1052
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: Oh totally.

1053
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 2: I can only imagine that this has hopefully helped someone hearing.

1054
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know the other thing I find, and

1055
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 5: not so much with therapy, but like I've been on

1056
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 5: this like kind of like body transformation kick, Like I've

1057
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 5: lost it.

1058
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: So you've lost like almost thirty pounds.

1059
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 5: No, I'm but twenty a little over twenty, you know,

1060
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 5: but this one has been insane where like cause I've

1061
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 5: just been I said, like, well, how am I going

1062
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 5: to keep myself? Like, what's one habit I have that

1063
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: I do all the time? I post on Instagram. I've

1064
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 5: done over ten thousand posts. Obviously I'm serious about Instagram now.

1065
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: And I just thought it up. I said, if I

1066
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: do like a weekly update, it'll it'll keep me honest.

1067
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,919
Speaker 5: If I know that, like in five days, I'm gonna

1068
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 5: have to post a picture and talk about my weight

1069
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 5: and whatever.

1070
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it.

1071
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 5: If I can kind of like hide in the shadows,

1072
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: I won't do it. And like the amount of people

1073
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 5: that have like A signed up with my trainer, but

1074
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 5: also B like just said, like, man, I struggle with

1075
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 5: that so much, so hard, thank you so much. I

1076
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 5: know how hard this is.

1077
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: I'd a woman I don't know who she is.

1078
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 5: She sent me a DM to O the day She's like,

1079
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 5: you know what, man, I said, if that, if Johnny

1080
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 5: Lieberman can lose weight, I can do it. I'm down

1081
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 5: sixteen pounds. I've stopped doing this and I'm.

1082
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: Just like, that's amazing.

1083
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 5: This is great, you know what I mean. Now I

1084
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 5: have a long way to go to where I want

1085
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 5: to get to. But yeah, I mean it's like my

1086
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 5: my pants are too big, my wallet falls out all

1087
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 5: the time. This ring is starting to come off, you

1088
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 5: know what I mean. Like it's it's a transformation, and

1089
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 5: it's it's really you know, I'm sure you guys know

1090
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Speaker 5: it's a diet more than anything. I mean, he's got

1091
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 5: to like, you know, as much as I love eating,

1092
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 5: you got you gotta stick mostly to a to a

1093
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 5: pretty boring diet.

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Speaker 1: It's it's awesome you were talking about this because that

1095
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: was on the road for like ever this year and

1096
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the roads the killer and stay in hotels and then

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00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: and then I was like I feel like shit, Like internally, yeah,

1098
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: like it's a human being. I feel like what is everything?

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Speaker 1: It was like the headlights dimming right and I would

1100
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Speaker 1: and I go down the bathroom. I would never turn

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Speaker 1: on the light ever. Yeah, I would like when I

1102
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: would wake up and go, you know, brush my teeth

1103
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: or go to pee or go to shower, I would

1104
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: leave the lights off because I couldn't like stare at myself.

1105
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: You yeah, yeah, looking man?

1106
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: No no no, no no. And then I mean even

1107
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: Amelia I would tell that I don't second, but they

1108
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: take pictures and I'm like, I don't want to see

1109
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: myself like any movie or project I would do. I

1110
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: was like, I can't see I can't look at myself.

1111
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: It would get me, yeah, it would make me super depressed.

1112
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Speaker 2: Has that changed?

1113
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: As soon as at November twenty third? I remember I

1114
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: was like sitting there, going, what are you gonna do?

1115
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 4: Then?

1116
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do about it? Right? It's like

1117
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm smoking like half a pack to its pack of

1118
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: American spirits a day, yeah, and you're like, okay, delicious,

1119
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: but you yeah, yeah, yeah right right, But like and

1120
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: then I'm garbage whatever I want. I'm eating right, and

1121
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you doing this? But what are

1122
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: you going to do? And then so I threw the

1123
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: cigarettes away and I started going for like a walk,

1124
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: and I go, I'm gonna start running again, like really running,

1125
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: and then the run like reprogram my brain. It's almost

1126
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,479
Speaker 1: like rebooting your computer, right or getting like a tune

1127
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: up and going The reason you feel this way is

1128
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: because your oil is dirty right, and you you got

1129
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: to change that filter, bro, like every three thousand miles,

1130
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: like change it, or even change it at eighteen hundred miles,

1131
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: because how hard are you going?

1132
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: I have bad dysmorphia, and I get roasted whenever I

1133
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: share that, because like why you like, you're fucking beautiful

1134
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: or whatever, but I have bad dysmorphia. I can't look

1135
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: in the mirror and feel good about it.

1136
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: This is really, this is what's beautiful about this conversation,

1137
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: because that's YouTube. When I when I like, when I

1138
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: see her, when I see her posts right, and she's like, oh,

1139
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: you know amazing, right, I'm like, geez, I go, I

1140
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: wish I could that.

1141
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1142
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to look at those photos for me.

1143
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1144
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 5: It's crazy with you two, because you know, you guys

1145
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: make a living to some degree off your looks, like

1146
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 5: you're you're good looking.

1147
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: At it's we feel and think the exact same thing

1148
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: because objectively, when I look at you and then I

1149
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: and I see your videos and I'm like, god, this guy,

1150
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: it's like he just fucking has everything together.

1151
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so smart.

1152
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: Remember, there's charisma. It's like a it's a it's a personality, right.

1153
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's why this this conversation is awesome for

1154
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, yo, like you feel the same thing,

1155
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: you feel the same thing. We all have our.

1156
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 4: I thought you guys have other problems. I'm shocked at this.

1157
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: This is no no, no, no no. I mean I mean

1158
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Speaker 1: daily I wake up and I have to hug him

1159
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I'm worth this man, yeah, right, Like

1160
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: and if these dogs are like I think, sent to us,

1161
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: because then he comes up to me like certain days

1162
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: like when I'm like I don't even want to get

1163
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: out of it because I'm I'm a piece of poop, right,

1164
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: and then he'll like lay on me, and I know

1165
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm sulking.

1166
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: When my dog has come over to me to sit

1167
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: with me, I'm like, oh, I guess I'm I need

1168
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: to go take a lap.

1169
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't allow myself.

1170
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: I have that feeling, but it goes away and like

1171
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, I just say nope.

1172
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, and I clear it instantly.

1173
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: But I know that feeling where it's like I'm worthless. Yeah,

1174
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: and I still suffer from like imposter syndrome, you know,

1175
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 5: And it's like it's weird, but I do you know,

1176
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 5: like it's like, why am I here, and it's like, well.

1177
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 4: Because you're invited, you know.

1178
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, so yeah it's weird.

1179
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird being a human. Huh.

1180
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: But thank you, Tony, Yeah, thank.

1181
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: You so much for coming on, taking time out of

1182
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: your day to come sit.

1183
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: With us, you know, anytime. It was great. It's a

1184
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: lot of fun.

1185
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: Thanks. I appreciate you.

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