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Remember Promo Code snaps if you're signing up 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.360 for a new account. And shout out to Papa Cola, 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.359 without whom none of this would be possible. And I'm 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.960 very excited on this Monday because we got a few 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:25.280 big storylines to break down. The coaching Carousel is here. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.880 will discuss maybe what it means for Nebraska. Should they 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:34.840 go after urban? Aaron's got some very pointed thoughts in 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.120 this matter. A bit later on we'll continue to talk coaching. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:41.120 Is this guy's not out the door, but something he 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.560 might be little fine bomb on Harson as I mean, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.760 if you're an Auburn Fan, dude, how are you feeling 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.480 about Brian Harrison? A farm but I'm saying he thinks 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.000 it just feels like it's over. Outside of the drama, 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.320 we'll get into some of the Games. Shout out to 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.880 the back twelve, dude, the west striking back man, not 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.720 just you USC any fun. We get the best weekend 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.799 the bag twelve has had in a very long time and, 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.880 as always, we'll give you our snips and our snaps. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.440 Get it's like a classic good bad TV segment thing. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.280 So if you're in the chat, first off, welcome. Secondly, 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.359 you can put your own snips and snaps from over 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.919 the weekend and we could address the best ones. Eron 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.200 Murk qb one. What's up, Dude, man, I'm in and 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.239 Daytona Beach. I gotta talk tonight to a actually back 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.440 to back Monday. So for those that are like what 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.200 the hell, whereas that beautiful Georgia helmet behind Aaron that 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.720 we're used to seeing on the show. The next two 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.040 Mondays I will be on the road. I'm in Sunny Florida, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.840 Daytona beach. You gotta speaking at a touchdown club tonight. 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.920 Next Monday I'll be in Savannah speaking at another touchdown club. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.280 So your boys stays on the road. I got home. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.080 I got home yesterday morning from Tennessee, from Knoxville for 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.280 the weekend. That's spent a little bit of time with 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.440 the family and then I'm like baby, just reminding you 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.240 that I'm being once again on Monday for the day 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.280 to go speak. I'll see you on Tuesday. So thank 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.600 God she is an angel. Are you wait, are you 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.960 in the Doghouse? Not, not, and I know that might 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.040 be a thing at Georgia, but are you in the 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.320 Doghouse at all right now? No, because yesterday, I mean 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.440 I was dog tired. So you and I, you know, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.320 we do our late night show on Saturday, so I 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.719 went to bed, you know, one thirty two. You know, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.400 I always make sure I take like the first flight 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:25.960 home on Sunday. So I was on the flight at 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.400 seven thirty ish. I was up like at six UH, 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.560 get home. I'm dead tired, but I'm like, gimme Maddox. 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.640 Madi is not gonna go spend the boys boys day together. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.040 So I took I took a little man from like 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.400 eight thirty, nine o'clock till about essentially four. So I 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.200 gave her the afternoon to come like chill, you know, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.000 it's good for me a little man to hang out together, 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.359 and then we spent a fun night together at the 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.640 dog park. So I'm not in the DOGHOUSE. But once again, 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.039 I still can give my my wife, who's thirty weeks 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.920 pregnant's a big shout out for for being a Badass. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.560 I'm got on the weekends during the fall, I'm gonna 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.760 go ahead and put our producer Ryan Brumley and the 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:11.600 snaps snaps, snaps for sharing snaps for Sharon, and Brom 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.120 put his Aaron in the Doghouse as a poll in 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.839 the chat. Great poll question, but Brom, you didn't spell 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:21.160 it d a w G. I mean, I know it's Monday, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.320 but I need you to lock in. Okay, dog D 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.880 O g. What is this dude? Anyway? And then we 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.480 get confused with the good bad doghouse thing. I think 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:34.240 the bad doghouse is exclusively O G and good doghouse 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.720 is a w g. So I did think of that. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:41.040 And who's WHO's having Monday problems? Now, you're right, that 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.000 is a classic. You just you're you know, reversed me, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.240 like I'm not even get off the Mat. I'm just 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:52.320 gonna take that L I'll move on. Well played. Let's 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.920 say I go ahead and dive into the first topic. Now. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:58.440 I got another left on that. Uh. So, if you've 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.279 Lin listen to this show, you know that I've somehow 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.960 kind of memed my way into being a Nebraska fan here. 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.239 What I have learned Eron since Scott Frost was fired 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.400 is that I was never there for frost. I'm there 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.360 for the irrational passion of husker fans. There was no 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.960 reason why Fox's big kick off this Saturday in Lincoln. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.360 There was no reason why anybody should have been there, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.440 and yet the set was packed. People were going crazy. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.159 I follow all kind of Nebraska fans on twitter. They 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.400 slowly through the week worked themselves into convincing their themselves 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.160 are gonna win. Every single weekend the stadium is packed 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.200 and they're awful, but that's sort of dedicated because like 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.040 I would tell us you. On Saturday state it was 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.320 kind of weak, to be honest, dude, the openers, Brian Kelly, 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:49.000 it was pretty empty, like relatively Nebraska. Not The case. Okay, 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.600 so I'm still here with you, husker nation, and so 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.040 we have to figure out where are we gonna go 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.560 for our next head coach and on that broadcast on 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:01.839 Saturday on Fox, crowd made a very clear as we want. 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:08.560 Urban chants started to break out urban. I know how 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:15.920 you feel about this. Urban Urban. Okay, urban meyern in Nebraska. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.640 What do you think? And do like? I guess that 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.240 actual fate. Could that actually work? Yeah, I think it 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.440 can work. I mean he's won three national championships in 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.800 his career. Uh, he won one in fourteen and you 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.760 know before the show, you know, tea BOPs like, oh, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:31.520 it's been almost a decade. Well, who else has won 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.080 in National Championships in fourteen? What like three other coaches 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:36.680 in America? So it's not like there's a budget coaches 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.120 rotating through winning the National Championship. So he is an 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:44.840 elite category. Two at Florida, one at Ohio State. Um, 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.200 you know, there are teams gonna be and then I 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.040 think he's a really good head coach. I do think 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.720 that he is a top head coach in America if 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:53.480 he decided to come back. Is he a top five? 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.120 I don't know. Is he a top tend I would 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.760 think so. Like if urban came back today and took 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.440 them to Braska job, I would throw her it into 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.000 a top ten category for college coaches and for Nebraska 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.880 fans to get a top ten coach for what Nebraska 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.120 has been for the past decade. You're you're jumping up 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.280 and down, you're you're excited, your static, like hell yeah, 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.200 give us urban. We don't give a damn about everything 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.640 that that went on in his past, whether it's at Florida, 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.120 whether it's that Ohio state and obviously what went down 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.600 there at Jacksonville. Like we don't care. Kick our kickers, 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.720 just win football games, win championships. That's all we want 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.680 right now from a head coach. We are tired of 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.160 being irrelevant. We have too much of a rich history 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.680 not to be good. So yes, if there's a coach 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.880 that I'm gonna target and I'm in Nebraska and I 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.360 just want to win, and winning, as we know, solves 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.400 all problems, I'm going to go after coach Urban Meyer, 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:50.600 regardless of how much it's gonna cost me. We're going 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.599 after Urban Meyer. So I think it's legitimate, man, I 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.200 think it's real and I think he's on the shortlist 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.360 right now to be the next head coach at Nebraska. 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.920 And as an outsider, or even as someone who would 0:08:59.920 --> 0:09:03.160 be Nebraska Fan, I am plenty okay with it because 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.720 I want to Brask gonna be good. I'm here for you, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.320 T bob, I'm here for you. I Want Nebraska to 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.720 be good as well, but I don't know that there 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.280 is any guarantee that the man to do that job 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.760 is urban Meyer. Now, no, real quick let's focus on 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.640 the nearly a decade thing, right because, to be fair, 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.760 it's a fantastic uh debate turn of phrase right where 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.400 it's like seven years and up. Just make it sound 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.560 like ten, okay, because it feels like it's been two 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.640 decades since Urban Meyer had success on the college level. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.080 You look at and and then and and it's not 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:40.959 just that, like when he stepped away Um and went 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.200 and tried the NFL thing, it's not just that it 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.880 didn't work right, like like Saban didn't work in the NFL. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.400 Urban Meyer was a car crash. It was a rocket 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.800 explosion before it even got to, you know, out of 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:59.440 the atmosphere. It was destructive and beautiful and horrible to 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.520 watch all same time. I mean like, okay, so you 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.160 said you would pay anything, amory, you're gonna pay this 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.400 man a hundred plus million dollars. It's gonna be the 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.640 coach of school and you're gonna eat the PR blowback 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:15.040 from uh, well, the Zax Smith something got enforced out 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:17.480 of Ohio state at the beginning of the day. But, but, but, like, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.840 even outside of pr I mean, this is a man 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.800 who in Jacksonville, the things that he were he was 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:28.079 doing don't really work on the college or NFL level. Like, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.160 if he displays that same lack of accountability, if he 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.920 displays the same lack of interest, I mean, to me, 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.600 the craziest, the the absolute wildest, like whatever, the thing 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.800 where he's like party on the boat with his boys 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.840 and his boys like hitting a ball in the background, 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.800 but it's like in the reflection whatever, and you see 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.600 him kind of doing one of these okay, okay, whatever, 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.160 pretty stupid, but that happens. But to be the head 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:56.280 coach of an NFL football franchise and to stay behind 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.240 after you get your ass kicked and then to be 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.520 in public drinking like that, grinding on girls and again, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.839 all things that I'm complete fine with. I love grinding, drink, 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.160 I love all of this. I love all of this, 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:15.439 but in that position it shows a like shocking, a 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:21.440 mind lemon mind numbingly dumb lack of situational awareness. And 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.200 so I don't know if he's like the San Franciscans 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.199 in that one salad park episode where they're just loving 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.440 the smell of their own farts. But somewhere along the 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.360 way urban Meyer lost his way. He got obsessed with 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.040 his own sin. Okay, I would not hire this man 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.000 to be my head coach and I definitely would not 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.240 pay him a hundred million dollars. Because what if it 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.000 doesn't work? Worst case scenario, Brian Kelly doesn't work at 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.119 L S you. Is it a huge miss? Absolutely, okay, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.439 but you're not. It's not viewed as kind of selling 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:52.240 your yourself out morally, like if you put all that 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.240 money in here and then it doesn't work, it's a 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:57.160 complete it's it's it's it's even work. You're you're at 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:58.920 you're at a cross rods front, like there is a 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.560 level of desperation, and I said it at the beginning 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.360 of the season, like, if you're going to be a 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:05.000 team that wants to look at urban, you have to 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.520 kind of look yourself in the mirror and say how 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.280 desperate are we to win? Because of the possible PR nightmare, 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:12.160 because of the fact that if it doesn't have success, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.280 people arena come at you saying, well, look, look at 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.360 all the facts. How did you think this was gonna work? 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.400 Look what he did Jacksonville. Look at all the nightmare. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.720 So why would you bring a guy that has had 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.960 some issues in the past couple of years into our 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.360 locker room? So, yeah, you have to worry about that 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:27.920 PR nightmare, but then you also have, I think in 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.440 Nebraska right now there's also a you gotta take a chance. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.560 It's this is a high risk, high reward situation right now. 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.720 Do you want to go for a guy that is 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:41.240 won more national championships than anyone else besides Nick Saban 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.960 the past fifteen years, or uh and a guy that 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.120 that has won at Florida, Guy That's one of Ohio 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.719 state that is considered possibly a top ten coach in America? UH, 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.040 with the risk of obviously the PR nightmare of the 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.400 you know, he's the kind of left Florida and shambles 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.280 a little bit. I disagree with with UH Kirby Weiser 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.480 and the chat. He don't really leave Ohio state and shambles. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:03.440 Ohio states still find a kicking ass ever since he 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:06.240 left Ohio state. So I don't agree with that comment. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.040 So that's that's the reward aspect, the risk aspects, as 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.480 you allude to, the PR nightmare that goes with hiring 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.400 urban but you know, once again, people make mistakes, people 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.240 screw up, even coaches like Urban Meyer. Maybe he corrects himself, 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.880 maybe he's a better human, a better husband, a better 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.760 coach at the end of the day from everything that 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.839 went on at Jacksonph and if he is a better person, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.200 if he is a better coach and learn from his 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:33.160 mistakes and can improve on that, that's a pretty damn 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.760 good head coach. So I think the question is this. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:41.880 He would would would urban Meyer look at Nebraska's appealing job? That, 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.320 to me, that's more of the question, because I think 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:45.920 that once again, I think he has to be on 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.480 the shortlist and definitely an offer us to come and 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.520 I want to another point here is like going to 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:54.200 my tangent here. You bring up the money aspect, and yes, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.520 it's gonna cost him an arm and leg to buy him. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.199 But if Nebraska was was going to be stingy with money, 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.640 why the Hell Are you firing frost with three weeks 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.480 ago and essentially wasting seven and a half killon dollars? 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:07.560 So if you're willing to wait seven and a half 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.199 million dollars by keeping a coach around or not keeping 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.760 coach onund for three more weeks, when you know you'RE 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.760 gonna lose Oklahoma regardless, you got a bye week and 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.600 then it doesn't matter after that. Uh, you have money 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.680 to spend in my in my mind, so they don't 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.240 care how much it costs, they just want to win 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:28.960 at this point. Okay, so here's the other deal. Why 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.960 I don't feel great about urban here. And yes, there's 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.920 PR risk, but again, I don't know that I actually 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:39.280 believe that he is still that guy that won all 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.840 those national championships. Yes, he did not leave Ohio state 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.360 in shambles, but he wasn't really given the opportunity. He 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.400 was forced out the door. He did leave Florida and 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.920 shambles when he stepped away for health problems and came back. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:56.320 That's one place. For what it's work. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.880 that's fair. That's fair. But but again, I I do 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.160 think it's been a while since he's had success. I 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.280 think we were talking before the show. I thought that 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.640 our producer, Ryan Brownie, made a really good point, which 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:11.200 is that this is not a Florida or Ohio state 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.560 type of job and not this is not one of 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.120 the major blue bloods. It's going to be harder Um 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.080 for urban to win there than it would have been 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:21.840 at his last couple of spots. And I know he 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.440 did at Utah, but again, that's even longer ago. And 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.680 more than that, like I feel like Nebraska needs a 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.600 coach that represents the type of team that they have 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.040 to be in order to have success in the modern 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.360 era of college football. Like, and by that I mean 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:42.000 a a scrappy team, like, if I'm Nebraska, worrying about 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.760 National Championships feels a bit presumptuous, like I know that 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:48.840 is the goal, but how about we just build a 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.760 solid foundation and put together a couple of winning seasons 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.160 in a row? And I'm looking around right now and 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.440 I see a Washington team that it looks very excited, 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.200 has turned it around after Jimmy Lake, and that's why 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.000 they go get Kaylin de Boor, a very proven head 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.680 coach on the small division three level. Uh Lante Leopold 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.400 is doing great things at Kansas Right now. Another higher 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.440 where you went and got a guy who had a 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.320 lot of long term success at like small division three 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:20.840 sort of level. You know, I love Jamie Chadwell out 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.440 of Coastal Carolina. I think you got to try to 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.000 catch a riser here, dude, and you gotta catch someone 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.880 who's kind of young and scrappy as well and can 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.960 bring you to where, Um, I guess, because like yeah, they're, they're, they're, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.119 they're not one of the big dogs at all. Nebraska 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.400 is not anymore, and so I don't know, you look 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.160 around and then they look. There's even names like John 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.040 Smith at Oregon State. I think he's doing a really 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.160 good job. You want to get touch with him. Um 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.840 Kalonnie Sataki, which I don't know why he would ever 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.240 leave by U, but you know, enough money maybe. So, Um, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.800 Todd Muncan and Georgia's kind of interesting if you want 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.480 to do bill O'Brien's taking over awful situations before. So 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.800 there are names out there that I would go with 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.560 before Urban Meyer on multiple fronts. Some of those guys 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.600 I would go with them before on the football front 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.040 as well. But every single one of them is also 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.200 just a way less of a headache. Higher I would 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:14.760 say no, man, make you make a t I think 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.600 you make valid points. A lot of people, someone, I 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.920 think in Georgia fan the chat, said no, Todd Mankin. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.959 I don't think todd wants to be a head coach. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.440 Maybe why? Why? To me, if you're an O C 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:33.040 or a D C at a program that's winning like Georgia, uh, 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.320 and you're making a ton of money as it already is, 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.719 why take the headache of being a head coach at 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:42.040 a place like Nebraska that hasn't had success? Million dollars, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.439 I get it, but that's seventy million headaches too. So 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.680 I guess I mean it's like, how much more money 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.880 do you really need? Like, like Athens is a great town. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.639 Athens in the phenomenal town. If you'RE gonna be a 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.600 coach in America. There's not many bit better places to 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.200 live and raise a family than Athens. Georgia. You're making 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:01.639 a ton of money. You don't have the headaches of 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.960 being a head coach, responsibilities of being a head coach, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.639 like you also have to weigh in the quality of life, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.760 like if I win the coaching I would not want 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.560 to be a head coach. Like give me, give me 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.359 a quarterback job that's making six figures, give me a 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.840 a coordinator job that's making one of two million dollars, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:18.560 and I don't gotta deal with all the BS of 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:24.600 being a head coach, like like Todd mounken can. And 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.200 and I also feel brum right, like never doubt a 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.480 human ability to want more money, like, even if it's 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.560 not rational, right, uh, people don't care. Billionaires are out 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:38.440 here finding to make sure they don't pay any taxes. Um, 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:40.800 but at the at the same time, Eron, I definitely 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.399 see what you're saying. But this is where, this is 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.000 why I always get the head so well, it's like, yeah, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.640 that's why I never got that job in the first place, 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.960 because to me, I'm with you, one to two million 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:52.600 year to chill under Kirby, like he's the lightning Rod. 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.320 He does all the recruiting. Sure you know you gotta 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:57.040 do you know, you gotta close deals, you gotta talk 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.119 to kids and family, but like, okay, yeah, Kurby has 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.719 all the heavy lifting, he has to deal with all 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.000 the media BS, and I just get to sit here 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.840 call offices. Oh, and you're gonna give me the best 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.159 players in the country, so I get to like just 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.320 go out and call offices with a team that is 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.000 just better than whoever winds up across me. I do 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:16.800 get you. That sounds appealing. That sounds appeal but monkey 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.720 isn't interest. Like if he has that drive to get 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.960 back to being a head coach, he is an interesting 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.240 name because when he was at southern miss he was 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.679 in a bad situation and he did well as a 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.960 head coach. So it's it's just something to look look 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:32.600 the bottom line is a retread. Like urban feels like 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.000 such a trap in multiple different ways. For me, it's 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.440 been too long. The kicking the kicker ship is still 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:44.080 just insanity to me. I'm I'm for whatever it's work. 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.359 There's been no contact Nebraska nerble. I just want like 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:49.480 for Nebraska fans, whoever does watch this, they need to 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:53.360 understand that this isn't no matter who you get, this 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:56.480 is not an easy rebuild. And let's let's also remember too, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.159 that Nebrassa is in the big tent uh, and right 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.640 now the big ten is pretty, pretty good and they've 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:04.640 been really good. You've got the big boys in that conference. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.560 You're about to add USC and U C L A 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.240 and not really too scared about ul a. But you're 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:11.840 adding another elite program with a damn good coach and 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.240 a program that looks like they're they're they're somewhat back 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.680 right now. So you're in a situation where you're gonna 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:20.760 be recruiting against all those schools, competing against all those 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.919 schools year in and year out, and you're already so 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.639 far behind. This is a this is once again a 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:31.080 three or four year project, regardless of whoever gets the job. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.439 Like there's not gonna be all of a sudden magic's 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:35.119 gonna Click and some head coaches Canna go on there 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.240 and turn this program one of two years, like you're 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:41.800 just to me. The main thing right now is patients, patients, patients, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.399