WEBVTT - Our 2025 First Base Tier List (with Jolly Olive) 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.320 Hello, and welcome to Waken Jake. As we are in 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:07.480 tier list season and we are doing first base. This 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.680 is gonna be a breeze right first base. Put the 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.000 best hitter you got and let him catch the ball. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:15.800 This will be one of the ugliest tier lists we 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.760 do this year. I am joined by Jolly Olive BBD 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.840 and I think you know, we normally like to get 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.119 some tiers in front of you. We have some concepts 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.680 we've discussed. First base might blow some people's minds what 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.200 we're about to stumble into because there is a pack 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:43.160 of Lamont Wade our guy Vinnie p that I there 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:45.680 is a middle tier of first baseman that I currently 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.960 don't know how to slice up. Jolly, what was that? 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:49.959 Was that a dance move? 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.519 It's the only position I didn't get to play in 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.640 Little league. Okay, so I'm a little biased against first basemen. 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.520 They got to live dreams that I never got to live. 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:58.120 First base is a nightmare. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.320 But it's a little messy. It's a little short guy, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.360 But I always wanted to try. I could pick it. 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:05.520 If it was high, I can't get there. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.240 Yeah, you didn't want that. I had a couple games 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:09.559 and that was just a bad time. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.720 At least you got those get it first. It's just 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:14.200 everyone's just looking at you. 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:16.640 Luckily, these guys are tall. We will find out who 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:21.679 the shortest player is coming up. Probably a Rise, Probably 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.840 a Rise. He's listed. He had a nice Instagram post, 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.440 him and his wife, a bunch of kids. Everyone is 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:28.200 looking good. 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:29.840 Let's spend thirty minutes on that. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.600 Andrew Vaughan, don't say that to me. We won't start there. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.440 Here's what we're gonna do normally. We we have the list, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.600 and we I think we have our S tier. There's 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:42.840 been a couple names thrown out, but we're gonna do 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.120 this traditional tierless style. We're gonna start off S tier 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.520 ABC D, and then we're gonna separate as we go 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:55.440 because I'll be honest, I'm a little frazzled. The S 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.520 tiers kind of clear. There's a couple guys you can 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.320 negotiate up or down and may maybe we will look 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.200 at that. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:05.240 That's nice. The whole squad man you show out looks great. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:08.680 Miami Rise kind of has a see through shirt going on, 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:11.840 like that's that's the vibe. That's what I want. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.880 Okay, he's still a padre right, that didn't change. 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:16.960 We'll see by the time this comes out. 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:18.799 I don't know, kind of flexing his wife, kind of 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.000 big time half those slides. We're just her. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:26.200 We love that for her. So we're going traditional tierless 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:30.799 s tier ABCD, and I think we can chew off 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.160 the top jolly. I think we mutually agree that there's 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:39.480 four that deserve to be at the top. I think 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.640 there's one guy that could make a push for a 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:45.160 solo one, but he doesn't have quite the resume yet. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:46.919 Would you like to dive in? 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.920 Yeah, I mean the way I'm sectioning this off is 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.000 the guys that are either getting paid nine figures or 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:59.040 are going to get paid nine figures as first baseman. Uh. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.839 The one who's going to paid nine figures is vladimirker 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.880 Or Junior. This is his walky year. He's coming off 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:08.120 a fantastic bounce back year, bounce back in the way 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.800 that he was always good, but that was a truly great, 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.680 elite caliber season last year. Nine ops, thirty bombs, one 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:19.079 of three RBIs career one thirty seven ops plus he's 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.520 going to be twenty six. He could get better, you 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.960 never know, uh, And he's gotten better defensively, and we 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.880 know how feared of a slugger he is. He will 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.920 be the ball or the bell of the ball at 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.000 next year's fore agency class. I think I had it 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.560 right and he belongs at the top, no doubt in 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:37.360 my mind. 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.280 So I think, oddly enough Laddie with what he did 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.600 last year. If there's anyone who has a claim to 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:50.200 be on top top, it is Vladito. Yes, six point 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:56.600 two war ninety ops one sixty six ops plus. I 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.880 mean the way he finished last season, and when I 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.400 say finished, I mean basically the second half of the year, 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:06.720 finished sixth in MVP. I do think I think Gladdy 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.520 grew up a little bit. He's turning twenty six in 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:14.360 a couple weeks. Youth factor goes for him that there 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.039 may be more in the tank or last season just 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.440 might be the regular. He does have a career one 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:24.520 thirty seven ops plus, which is lower than I think. 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:28.240 It's lower than Harper. I believe it's lower than Freddy career, 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.040 and it's lower than Olsen's career. So there's definitely people 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.719 that would come on here and say Olsen should maybe 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.040 be a tiered down. I think I think the two 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.040 arguments that Bryce and Freddy are linked for life. That's 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.920 just how it goes. Olsen and Freddy also linked for life. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.359 I think Matt Olsen's last year, you can make an 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.880 argument a tier down. I think it was a weird 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.080 year and the year before that, as you've noted, Jolly 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.400 fifty four homers, one hundred and thirty nine rbs and 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.440 six oh four slugging all at the NL. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.400 A better better than what Vladdie did last year. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.560 Matt Olson correct put it in context, Matt Olsen has 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.880 played every game the last three seasons. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:07.400 And that matters to me. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:13.080 That's cool that, Yeah, I think I hope that the 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:17.039 tierless next year, as Vladimir Guerrero Junior on a tier 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.240 all by himself or maybe with another one of these 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.800 guys like Bryce Harper's still new to first base. Yeah, 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.880 how silly is that in the defense, Like he grades 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.800 out well for a first baseman, which nobody grades out 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.800 well for a first baseman. So that's kind of cool 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.599 to see. And yeah, Matt Olson with a hot April 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.360 could be on track for another fifty homer season. Also, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.760 Matt Olson thirty two point eight career war. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.600 Madd Olson's entered like an interesting conversation. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.320 I mean, he'd have to, he'd really have to keep 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.680 it rolling until he's thirty five to. 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:51.520 Yeah, I'm not saying that he's going to make the 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.800 Hall of Fame, but I think his interesting conversation is 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.359 he had one quote unquote down year where he was 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.640 still a four or player, hit thirty home runs and 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.960 played every single game, Like, oh, I guess he's not 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.800 among the elite. Adilson's still really really good and he 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.080 definitely belongs up here. So I had like that slight 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.080 moment of like do we move him down? Because you 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.279 can see a world where it's those three and it 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.920 kind of looks right right, But Matt Olson definitely belongs 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:15.279 up there. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.560 I think they all belong. I could see any of 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.839 those players having a better year than everyone else on 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:28.200 the list, Vladdie with the easiest up potential, and honestly 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.279 Father Time and Freddy when does it happen? Thirty five 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.279 hasn't happened yet. Last year the numbers ticked down, But 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.719 when I say tick down, one hundred three oh ps plus, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.200 like they ticked down for Freddy Freeman. He hit three 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.640 point thirty one the year before to eighty two last 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.880 year got six and a half war. 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.200 It's Freddy Freeman, like a first ballot Hall of Famer. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:54.120 Kind of feels like. 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.240 Well, world series. I'll tell you what also matters, World 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.320 series and being liked by the media. He's been MLB's 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:06.560 media darling for eight years now. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.760 I think Freddy's the first bound Hall of Famer. 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.240 Poppy and he was a d H didn't even. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:13.800 Play the field. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.560 Eh, let's leave that s here. We'll see if we 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.800 need to circle back and separate anything I think we've done. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.240 I think we've done good there. Do you want to 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:24.800 do the next tier or do we want to? 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.720 I don't want to some of the bottom I don't 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.040 want to do any of those. I know it's a 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.880 disturbing mess. I have a couple pairings that I like, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.360 and then after that it's kind of out the wazoo. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.520 Tyler Soderstrom on the A's of course, please don't say 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.200 that into the microphone had some nice numbers last year. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.239 Scaring people had some nice numbers last year. Jolly. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.880 I have Paul Goldschmidt and Carlos Santana group together. They 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.640 got paid roughly the same money and free agency. They 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:54.760 serve kind of similar roles. They're club first dudes who 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:56.680 are a little bit on the older side, who can 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.480 still hit at you know, league average above league average. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.200 I have them somewhere in the middle in a tier 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.920 called your dad's old glove, your dad's old glove, your 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:09.960 dad's old glove that he gave to you as like 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.040 your first really good like you had your little league 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.920 glove and now you have your first good glove to 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.080 your dad's old glove. He's been using it for years. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:23.680 Man Carlos Santana turns thirty nine in April. Damn Paul 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.600 is a young thirty seven and about to have a 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:31.120 massive season. Uh okay, so BBD naturally put that in 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.200 the Sea tier for now. We can call it your 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.640 dad's old glove. I'll be interested to see if anyone 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.040 we think deserves to be lumped in with them. And 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.760 it's got a very similar contract. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.880 Open to discussion. Because Paul goldschmianth was in our second 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.439 tier last year next to Bryce. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.360 Harper, Well Goldie took a step back, and we're talking 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.199 about Matt Olsen and could he reach Hall of Fame 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:57.320 and Harper Freddy like Paul Goldschman's got that sixty two 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:00.800 point eight war in the bag and he had an 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.160 eight hundred ops in the second half of last year. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.839 Does he find the porch a couple of times? The 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:09.640 pin stripes? The pin stripes? 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.240 What's look at Paul Golchmith's Sprayshart, Are you getting it? 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:15.199 Did he go with any home runs like one opo home? 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.839 You went for a homer twice last year? 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:23.199 It's PPP prep season. A lot of the nerd sites 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.120 do say he will pep with that porch? Well, he 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.200 would have. I think he would have gained like three 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.000 homers as a yank last year. We'll figure that out. 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:37.400 Two years removed from MVP one. Yeah, and uh hey, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.600 maybe he needs to wipe the cardinal off of him 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.200 just a little bit. Uh tell me, who is your 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:48.760 favorite cardinal free agent signing this year? That's rude, blank 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:50.480 blank space. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.280 That's what I was thinking. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.439 We are recording this February tenth, that should be noted. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.720 The Piaveta welcome, come on down. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.880 Yeah, the Mets. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:05.520 No, we don't need a picture to who to Saint Louis. Okay, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.040 he looks like a cardinal. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.440 What do you mean? No, he does. Let's see what 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.920 the Olds do this year as they are fighting for ground. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.360 Paul goldschmid seven point four War, three point one War, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.080 one point three War. So there's a nervous side of that. 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.280 Carlos Santana was kinda on that boat and last year 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.920 just said, fuck it was bad. So we respect your 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:32.520 dad's old glove. Let's see what gets filled in above them. 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:37.360 Let's jump to the second tier. When we go from Olsen, Harper, 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:42.240 Vladito and Freddy, I guess who's the first name. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.880 I think it's Pete, which is weird because I feel 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.200 not one hundred percent confidence saying that, but I feel 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.679 like he can't go any lower than that, right, I mean, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.400 he's the biggest home run bat on this list. 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.800 It's interesting because it's twenty twenty five. Yes, you get 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.760 paid in free agency for what you're about to do, 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.800 you don't get paid for what you've done that. I 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.319 think the two names that were the hot topic at 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:14.680 first base this offseason, Pete and Christian Walker, both have 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.160 their argument. Pete's going to get at least thirty million 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.400 dollars to play baseball for this upcoming season, and if 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.440 he plays well, he will cash in even more than that, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.440 or he's got an insurance policy for next year. Christian 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.560 Walker got the contract everyone kind of expected, and it's 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.920 the whole two way. He leads every defensive first base 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:41.199 metric you could possibly look into while being a very consistent. 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.480 But I haven't looked at Christian Walker's numbers. He was 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.760 a hot topic of this free agency and then he 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:54.240 wasn't ops plus the last three years one twenty one 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.720 and he's won the Gold Glove all three of those years. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.760 His war has gone down per year. He will be 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.840 turning thirty four on March twenty eighth. Is that opening day? 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:04.600 Yeah? 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.480 Yeah, I I'm very interested to see. Arizona's a good 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.440 place to hit. That's been a good lineup. He was 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:13.600 very comfortable there. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:16.719 These two feel linked to they currently are. Yeah, they 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.480 just feel like, like in the same way that like 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.040 Freddy and Olson are kind of always connected. These two 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.280 feel like they're gonna be connected even though they're very 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.680 different players. Yes, like Walker's glove first and like very 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.920 consistent offensively. Pete definitely not a glove first dude, but 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.440 he has like the offensive volatility where like one year 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.199 he could put up forty six homers and people aren't 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.520 gonna be like surprised, you know what I. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.280 Mean, maybe this year I'd like that, you think so 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:40.160 I'd like it. 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:40.720 I don't know. 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.000 And Uncle Steve's got to get that check book out. 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.559 I think he's good for it. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.240 What if he wants flatty pork dose. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:50.840 There's a DH spot in the National League. 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:57.559 Now Pete to third. Okay, let's party the dos. I 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:03.800 think those two begin this. The question is my one 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:07.719 other name here feels wrong? Okay, but then you look 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.400 at his page and he absolutely belongs to be next 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.400 to some of these guys. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:14.520 But maybe not. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:15.280 Okay. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:17.760 I'm having a really tough time with Nathaniel Lowe. I 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.640 think we all are at a really tough time with them. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.000 He's never been below the average offensively in his six 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.120 year career. Last year he was a one twenty ops plus. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:29.160 He doesn't have the home run power that Pete does, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.360 and doesn't have quite the glove that Walker does, but 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:36.120 he kind of feels like a hodgepodge of the two. 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.400 I mean, he's definitely more doubles than Homer's. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.679 Won the Silver Slugger in twenty two, won the Gold 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:47.800 Glove in twenty three, and last year he had a 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.280 very Nathaniel low season, and. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.040 He just feels better than the guys that are going 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.439 to be below them. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.360 Can I tell you, Okay, here's a weird sniff test. Okay, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.720 White Texas trade him. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.880 I think it's so Jake Berger has more years of control, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.559 and I guess they wanted to swap in one guy 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.439 for less money. He was more years of control. But 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.960 I do think that Nathaniel loves the better player get 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:14.840 a little more powerful. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.000 I just signed John, they signed Jock, so that's your 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.680 lefty DH replacement. It's great for the next I guess 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.680 they got Burger at a good value. So I don't know. 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.000 That's just been one that's thrown me off. And we're 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:31.520 talking about you know, your network is your net worth? Wow, 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.000 Christian Walker got the contract maybe plus a year than 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.280 what people were expecting or I don't know. In the range. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.720 Pete was chasing AAV and blew his cover that he 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.720 wanted to be a met, but he didn't get the 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:48.440 full contract he was expecting. 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:49.920 He will be the highest paid for his spapes in 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:50.360 next year. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:56.560 Nathaniel Lowe was traded for Robert Garcia, and the whole 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:00.760 thing throws me off. It was from California. Robert Garcia 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.160 is from California. 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.800 And Robert Garcia is good. He's got three nasty pitches. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.520 But it felt just like a years of control type thing, 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.320 which is a good way to build your roster. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.880 And it was a team that was pretty desperate for bullpen. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.560 Health right, and the Marlins were dumb enough to trade 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.520 Jake Berger who still had like tons of control. So, like, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.920 I get it from that standpoint. And this is about 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.320 Nathaniel the player. Not really like him getting traded. It's 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.280 just a weird discussion. Like I still don't really know 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:27.880 why it happened. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.120 Maybe Robert Garcia is good, he had a negative war 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:34.880 last year. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.720 I don't where do you want to put him? 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:43.640 Jacob, So there's Pete and Christian Walker, sure lump together 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.440 for life. I like Nathaniel Lowe. I'll tell you one 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:57.000 that's tormenting me, Wilson Contrara's I hate these here. I 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.920 don't know if he can play the position, but if 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:04.760 you tell me the hitter, I like, go look at 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.560 his offensive stats since and like these numbers, we'll probably 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:09.280 get better. 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.640 That You'd think he doesn't have to catch. You'd think, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:17.800 so does he? In the second tier of a position 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.320 that he's never played. I think I draw the line there. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.320 I've never seen him play it. I don't know how 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.040 it's gonna. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:27.240 Look well, like his bat's not that good, but it's good. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.880 I think we're gonna get old headed out like he's tier. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.800 He's a name value list. It currently kind of is 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.760 name value list. So who's who? 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:40.600 Nathaniel Lowe? 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:42.320 Third tier is good? 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.920 Wilson contrere is. I'm just gonna yell some names real quick, 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.040 is there? I'm gonna yell every name. How about this, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.400 here's a fun exercise. Okay, every name that I'm currently 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.600 looking at that's frustrating me on what their value is. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:05.000 Josh Naylor, he has an argument, Sure, he has an 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:10.000 argument cosas yes and no, he's got to do it 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.880 for like a year, but his stats are. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.720 But now he's got that full one sixty two and 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:14.440 it's nice. 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.600 Right, but he's got to do that for a full 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.160 one sixty two, Like would you rather? Would you rather 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.320 have a first base next year? Paul Goldschmid, Carlos Santana 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:29.040 or Tristan Cassas, Tristan Trists and Cossas. So that's coming up. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.359 But I'm not even frustrated with that. I can figure 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.359 that out. Vinny p might be too close to the 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.760 sun there. That is what it is. We'll get there. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.720 Rhys Hoskins mm hmm. 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:43.360 I'm a little lower on him. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.919 I am too, but also am I. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.480 It's the it's the leg injury, okay. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:53.800 Lamont Wade Junior on. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:57.520 Base God, I think he's like, I think he led 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.720 first base in an on base percentage last year. I 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.560 don't don't need second. 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.200 Wilson and Treres I already talked about that. YONDI Diaz 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.359 get rid of his slow start and he was a 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.840 baller again. I think there there's some nerd stat that 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.920 he was top eighty fifth percent tile and sweet Spot contest, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.800 Sage and the biggest hammer. 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:21.400 Come on. 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.359 And then Nathaniel low like, I don't I don't know 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.639 how to separate these. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.800 So I've got some ideas. Sure, I think that we 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.040 make the B tier the my brain hurts tier, and 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.800 we just throw all these guys in there because they 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.800 all have like a hitch right. Wilson has never played 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:38.879 the position before. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:40.280 He's never played first. 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.439 Casas doesn't have the full season. Nathaniel Lowe has just 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.880 kind of been good, not great, And I don't mean 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.960 that in a negative way. He's just been a solid, 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:55.600 good first baseman. But but Alonzo and Walker have had 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:56.120 great season. 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.600 They can be game changers, right, game changer. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:05.720 Naylor hasn't played your position right, doesn't rack up war. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.360 No, I mean, did he had defense? Did he get 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:12.200 boosted by Cleveland getting rid of some outfield seats last year? 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.720 Oh? Yeah, I forgot about that. That was weird. 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:20.560 His numbers landed, They're fine. The thirty one homer stand 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.119 out more than the ops plus the county. Okay, I 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:24.960 feel better with that. 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:25.520 Yeah. 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.679 Defensively he played with three other like great defenders are 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:33.080 like yeah, like I feel like otherwise bad defense where 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.400 he'd have to be scooping more like, do we talk 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:39.000 about he's not a great defender. I was worried there 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.560 was gonna be a much bigger conversation for Josh Naylor 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:42.680 to be up on this list. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:43.560 I don't think there is. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.600 He he slowed down in the second half last year. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.960 I didn't realize to what degree. In the first half 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.720 last year twenty two homers and eight one six ops. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:57.320 He slowed down in the second half. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.600 So okay with him like me and Dalton. Both the 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.159 dbacs acquired their new designated hitter, not their new first baseman, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:11.080 and he's their first baseman now, so we'll see easy. 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.919 So let's let's all right, let's put those Okay, So 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.159 who's up there. That's Wilson, that's Low, that's Cassas, and 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:23.760 that's Nailer and then Vinnie. Who would you rather have 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:28.680 next year? Goldie Santana or Vinnie Vinnie Vinnie. A part 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.640 of me, I'm thinking that row is gonna become two rows. 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.640 A part of me was just gonna say, like, make 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.239 that into two rows. My brain hurts, Please make my 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:44.800 brain hurt. Oh and that's Vinnie and Casus. Yeah, I'm 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.760 open to that. Let's make two rows there. We're gonna 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:47.760 need two rows. 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.480 Because they also kind of feel like they go together. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:55.080 Cassas has just done more right, but he doesn't have 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.600 a full season. Cassas has done it at a higher level. 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:04.760 I should say not having the full season hurts. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:11.240 Yeah, they both, Yeah, they're both. They're they're high in games. 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.440 Is one thirty one and one thirty two for these 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:14.560 two guys. 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:21.440 They again, I'm an OPS plus guy nowadays. Sure, Cossas 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.040 won twenty five ann he won six one twelve career. 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.480 Who's won eighteen last year? 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.000 Kaufman's tough. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:29.320 Coffin's tough. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.920 Fenway not tough fen Way, know it's tough. 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:34.720 I might have just read the Rock stats. I was 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:39.800 on Josh Naylor's page. Benny, where'd you go? There's Bennie 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.840 Vinni's a career one sixteen ops plus. Yeah, this is 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.800 gonna be He's twenty seven, this is gonna be his. 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:48.960 I mean he's really only got one full season and 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:49.760 that was last year. 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.560 That's what I'm saying. They're kind of the same class, 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.879 Like they're both young people are both really excited for 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.120 what they can do, but also nervous because they haven't. 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:02.840 Seen s get the full year and be a guy. Yeah, 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.280 where does Lamont Wade go? Has anyone ever seen him 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:09.919 play baseball? Honest question? 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:11.760 Isn't he more an outfielder? 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.160 Not so much as stop. I think he's a great 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.879 picker and not much else going on Defensively. I know 0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:22.280 there's some nerd stuff about, like he hits velocity and 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:23.800 spin both very well. 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:26.520 His on base was one tick lower than his slug 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:28.840 that's his game. 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:30.280 He gets on base. 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.479 He gets on base, that's valuable. That's extreme. 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:33.400 Have you seen moneyball? 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:38.440 I heard playing first base is easy. That's what I heard. 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:40.960 The last two years, two hundred and fifty two games, 0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:43.960 he's gone on at a three seventy six clip proposal. 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:47.560 Okay, Lamont Wade does not great out well defensively at 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.399 first base and can hit. Do we agree on that? 0:22:52.520 --> 0:22:53.560 I think I can agree with that. 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.920 Y Diaz does not grade out well defensively and can hit. 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.240 I think I have another guy too, Luis. 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.520 Arias does not it out well defensively and can hit. 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:02.800 That feels like a. 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.920 Group a couple batting title winners. There they. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.240 Are contact over you just talk to me out of 0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:13.200 Wade being in there? 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:16.240 Now, Well. 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:19.280 You totally did. 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.360 Oh all three of them lead off? 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:26.040 Do they really? 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:26.840 Yeah? 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:27.920 I kind of love that. 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:32.920 Yeah, one one b hitting one and one something like that, 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.160 one hitting one, one hitting one, one hitting one. Put 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:43.560 that's above Goldie and Santana. Oh question Mark. The Olds 0:23:43.560 --> 0:23:45.040 are flying down the board. 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.840 It doesn't feel right about them below. I think it's above. 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:52.920 Who would you rather have? 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.800 If I think, if we're being honest, I would rather 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:03.720 have Louis Arise Yandi is Lamont Wade gets interesting, but 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:08.480 every stat tells me I would if you could tell 0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:10.679 me Lamont Wade Junior could get on at a three 0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.440 seventy three clip in front of Aaron Judge next year, 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.560 I would love Lamont Wage. 0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.360 And that that question is not who would you rather 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:18.919 have on the Yankees? It's would you rather have on 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.520 a baseball team? Like take out defensive issues, whatever construction 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.760 of the roster, like who what what's the better player? 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.840 I think the three of them move above, And it's 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:30.320 it's an age conversation too, you know what I mean? 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:35.760 Like fall off? They could, they could fall bad. 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:42.720 There's an argument that Paul Goldschmid has already already pinky old, 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:48.680 isn't it Yandy turns thirty four in August? That's okay, Cuban. 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:52.240 I like the way we sorted that out. 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.760 Okay, Yeah, we have some things happening. 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.280 We have a lot of tears. 0:24:56.720 --> 0:25:05.000 Good Wilson contraras Wilson. I mean, if he can catch 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.960 the ball, he's going up. 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.520 He caught the ball for many years of his life. 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:13.320 Get a whole position named after it. 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.520 If his offensive season is repeated and he's fine at first, 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:21.679 I need to see the guy play first base. This 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.800 is a guy that had problems catching. 0:25:24.600 --> 0:25:28.080 Can I just say this is the weirdest contract of 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.959 the past five years is the Wilson Contrats Cardinals contract. 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:33.879 Because they keep being mean to You're not our catcher 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:38.800 and you're the reason we're losing. Actually, you will catch, though, 0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.800 and we're not going to trade anybody in the season, 0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.080 and then we're gonna let everyone go and we're gonna 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:46.320 make you a first baseman even though you want to 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.359 be a catcher. He smells of a trade. 0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.080 There's four years left on the deal. 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.639 But if he hits and he can catch balls at 0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:55.520 first base. 0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:56.720 They need to full reset. 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:58.639 I'm with you, that's how they reset. 0:25:58.800 --> 0:25:59.280 I'm with you. 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:05.080 God, don't trade him to Seattle. And there's my Seattle 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:10.119 Mariner shrap real, which brings us to Luke Raley some 0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.159 numbers that like him. I'm just gonna get Jonah bride 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:13.560 on there. 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:17.159 See, this is the problem with the bottom is that 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.280 there's a lot of guys that have like one thing 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.000 going from. 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.000 Hey, let's let's clean up the bottom. I think Colt 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.400 Keith hasn't seen him play the position. I haven't seen 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.959 him play haven't seen him hit. I hope he has 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.359 a very nice career. We thought we thought you were 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.000 a Tree Sweeney last time. 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:34.720 He did think you were. 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.320 He's had a lot of appearances on this. 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.320 We didn't mean that. 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.720 Anyone want to go to battle for Spencer Horowitz. 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.399 You could hit a little bit. I feel bad putting 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:49.040 him at the bottom. 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:49.960 I kind of do too. 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:51.640 He's got after. 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.240 Strum, all right. 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.240 I don't know anything about Tyler. 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:03.240 Watch ball. Whyika there is no time for this? 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:05.639 Why did he have a one? Fourteen ops plus? 0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.720 It's pretty brief but still a lot of games. He's 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.240 like he was a real prospect. 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:11.800 His first round pick. 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:16.800 Was Oakland a's hit. Damn, no time for this kind 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:17.160 of true. 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.480 Andrew vaugh Bottom kind of feels like we know who 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:22.440 he is at this point. 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.320 I wish I didn't I bought some Andrew Vaughn stock. 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:28.639 Really I would love to get him anywhere else. 0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:33.560 Twenty homers, seven fifty ops. 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:34.840 Damn really no. 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.879 Nuts yr No. In my head, he had one in 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.399 my head. It was twenty twenty one, but he was 0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.800 a rookie in my head. 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:48.359 Twenty twenty two he was like legit good, which like 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:52.160 these are good numbers, but as a twenty four year old, 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.280 that's a very nice season in twenty twenty two for 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.560 Andrew vaugh I thought we were building something. 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.280 I mean, go ahead and make an argument for Andrew Bond. 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:06.080 No no, no, no, no no. The bottom of this 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:17.720 list Jonah Bride, Sorry, new friend, but yeah, like you 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.480 know these young guys, you can talk yourself into Spencer Horrowich, Sure, 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:22.640 maybe there's something in there. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:23.720 I think that might be a teer. 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:29.680 Michael Toglia, Like he hit, he hit twenty five last year. 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.119 He's a Spencer Steer. 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.800 Yeah, it's Spencer. I have Shanwell and that young guys. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:41.360 You want to talk about conversation like what is he? Like? 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:44.080 Does Cold Keith deserve to be with the young guys? 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.719 He's had a full rookie year, slow starting good? 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:49.960 Yeah, why is he? 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.239 I thought the numbers were a lot worse. Okay, how 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:57.880 about the second to last tier before the olds? Yep, 0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.160 put Cold Keith up there? 0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:01.120 Wow? 0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.640 Yeah, I mean, hey, real prospect. He I didn't realize 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.080 how close the league average the season got last year. 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.120 So we're doing like a young guy's tier. 0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.760 Then, yes, these are guys that we have hope for okay, 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:23.880 Like I'm looking at Chanel Januel. 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:29.840 Yeah, he's another like high draft pick. They didn't sign 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:31.520 a first baseman because they believe in him. 0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.480 Solder shrum Hive. Yeah wrong, right now? 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.680 Another first round pick? Is this the first round picks? 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.360 Tire these guys all first round picks? 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:42.120 A first round pick? 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:44.320 Come on? 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.200 Cole Keith is a fifth round pick. 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.040 Andrew was the third overall. 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.480 I have some Andrew va on SoC and I'm still 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:51.080 sitting on it. 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:52.760 Who went after Andrew? 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:54.760 Trade him to a good team. 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.400 Do you know who went one and two in Indre 0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.800 Von's draft, Adley Rushman and Bobby but Jr. 0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:03.600 I'm still a Vaughn guy, Riley Green two picks later, 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:11.120 j J. Bolda Carroll, I have Andrew Vaughn stock and 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:17.360 it's going back. But maybe this is the year. Maybe 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:24.000 this is the year. Like where does Michael Bush go? Man? 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:26.240 Bush goes above these guys? 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:31.240 I think, where do the Orioles belong with Michael? Michael 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:35.480 Bush had almost three war last year, full season. Here's 0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:37.880 what we're doing, Top one hundred prospect. Here's what he 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:43.760 goes with Vinnie and Cassas. Yeah right, I'd like him 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:53.120 to make my brain hurt. Rights. 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.520 Plus, he's he's the only one with a full season 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:04.440 lefty right, Yeah, yeah, he does, he does. I think 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.280 he has more war than Passquatch and he's only played 0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:07.680 one year. 0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:12.160 That's fine. He's still a top one hundred prospect entering 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:12.840 last season. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.200 I think I'd rather have him over Louise Orias. 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.360 That's interesting. I mean, Louis rises a wrench in every conversation, 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.520 so I'm saying kind of doesn't play defense, has an 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.600 argument for best contact hit or we've seen I'd rather 0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.520 have the guy that can also hit right. It starts 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.520 getting into your team a little bit. And Michael Bush 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:34.960 what if he gets better? 0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.760 Right? All three of those guys have the youth factor. 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.160 The reason Michael Bush is a Cub is the Dodgers 0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:43.440 just didn't have room for him. 0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:47.160 Literally didn't have room on the roster for him to play. 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.840 Who's in on Luke Rayley? Is that? You know what 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:53.320 I'm saying? 0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.000 Is that how you normally start conversations. 0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:58.400 Yes, it was not popular at the Super Bowl. He 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.280 feels like he belongs. 0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:04.280 With Oh my god, is he not an outfielder? 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.360 He had one great year last year. 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:14.440 Stats last year he's been good for multiple years. 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.400 He's playing first base for the Mariners. 0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.160 That's so messed up that they would do that to us. 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.400 By the time this is out, maybe they've signed Justin 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.520 Turner and really will return to the outfield. But he's played. 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:30.320 He's played a lot of first base in his life. Also, 0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.440 damn it, Luke Rayley is he in my brain hurts? 0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:38.720 It's a little bit, man, it's a little bit. I 0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:43.080 think his savant is also pretty at times. There's actually 0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:47.360 a dark horse position for him. I think Luke Rayley 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.320 got some leadoff run last year. 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:50.880 Let's check today. 0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.400 Let's check. Maybe I dreamt that the leading Okay, he 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.960 let off. He let off like eight times last year, 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.560 So I don't think three games started up there. My 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.240 brain has that in it, but I don't know how 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:08.160 to do anything else. 0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:16.680 I have him in my brain hurts. He's the epitome 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.680 of my brain hurts. I didn't think about Luke Raley 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.600 at all before this tier list, and I just discovered 0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:22.040 that he is. 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.400 Now, do you brain hurts or please make my brain hurt? 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.160 I mean, he's You'd rather have Luke Raley than Tristan Cassas. 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:30.080 That is a lie. 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:31.560 That's a lie. 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.080 The test came back and said that. 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.320 Was that's a lie. But that's a that's a name 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:37.400 value thing. Dude. 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.120 We're getting name valued pretty hard. 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.400 We're getting name valued because Luke Raley is objectively, right 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:48.640 now a better player than Tristan Cassas, which is a 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.040 crazy statement because even I don't believe. 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.800 That Luke Raley is six four two thirty five. Okay, 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.480 like sprint guys, I was about to ask what sprint 0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:00.240 speed you've got on He's like NIF or something. What 0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.040 Grayley flies? Luke Rayley's a. 0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:11.000 Glitch eighty eightieth percentime ninety split. The difference, everything about 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:12.879 him that I've learned in the past five minutes. It's 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:13.760 made my brain hurt. 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.160 He's up there, He's like a lot of center fields. 0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.719 And you owe it to Mariners fans? You do? You do? 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:28.319 You owe it to Mars fans. You're so mean to them. 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:29.479 This hurts my brain. 0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:30.520 You look like brain hurts. 0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:39.840 This is there's something beautiful about this, and there's something 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.759 horrible about this. I know I have Yankee syndrome, but 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.239 in my head, Goldie and Carlos Santana could have fine 0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:56.080 years this season. Yondy arise, I expect to have very 0:34:56.120 --> 0:35:03.759 strong seasons at what they do Wade. The expectations not there. 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.800 But he gets on base, and that's how the Oakland 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:14.680 Athletics almost won something. Barry Zito, Nope. 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.839 Tim Hudson, no, think you older because Scott Hadiberg got 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:19.800 on base, Sully. 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:28.400 That reference was for my sister x Files, who's not 0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:32.040 even on the board right now. Why don't you say 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.640 anything about Spencer Steer? Are you scared? 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:37.560 I have no thoughts on him. I have him. Okay, 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:38.160 do you want to hear. 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.799 My you have? Where would you have? Have you had 0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:41.319 had him? 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:46.320 Your brain's fully broken thought, here's my tier at the bottom. 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:50.280 You're righty, at the bottom, below your dad's old glove. 0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:57.040 I have Jake Berger, I have the two Orioles first Baseman, 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.879 I have Steer, and I have Hoskins. I have no 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.440 idea what I'm calling this tear, but they kind of 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:06.200 just feel like. 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.000 It feels kind of wrong for him to be below 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.279 the old But now I feel like we're getting rude 0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:15.960 to Santana. 0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.880 Now we're getting really rude to Santa. 0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.200 You can almost pencil Jake Berder and for thirty. 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:22.879 Homers you look like you're having a horrible time. 0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:28.560 I am, I mean, I'm maybe is it something about 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:32.839 like how are you hitting thirty homers? And there's part 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.319 of this that makes me just want to do it 0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:38.520 as a thirty person tier list and just do like 0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.840 a gun to my head. Who do I want at 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:45.560 third base next year? Or first base? Jonah Bride your 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.160 last And I'm sorry, dude, and I don't know you, 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:52.520 and you're probably a nice cat. See your first round pick? 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:53.200 Why do I care? 0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:54.000 He was? 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:59.800 Yeah, twenty third round pick, Jonah Bride. Don't look at. 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:07.560 His ok Here's here's what we're doing, and this is final. Okay, 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:11.440 here's what we're doing. We're putting Bride and Vaughan together 0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:15.719 with the whole hodgepodge of the young guys who haven't 0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:18.040 really proved it yet but we're like weirdly interested in. 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:25.400 So it's like Jose Miranda Spencer, Horowitz, Michael Tolia, Sean Well, Colt, Keith, 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:29.720 Jonah Bride, Soderstrom, Vaughan. That's a tier. All of them are. 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:31.280 Just a tier one line. 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:34.239 Yeah, one line, because that's that's what it is. That's 0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:37.120 what it is. Any one of them could break out 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.239 and become great. But you have no idea because all 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.440 they've done is had like either brief stretches of greatness 0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.040 were great two years ago, or they're just a high 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:49.440 draft pick. So we expect them to be great, but 0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:53.600 he can't really say anything else about them. And if 0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.759 we keep dwelling, our brains are gonna combust. 0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.480 I like Nolan Shanuel, you're on your own. 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:01.759 Kid. 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.000 It's gonna be twenty turns twenty three on Valentine's Day. 0:38:06.320 --> 0:38:08.920 Let can we make this tier? Let someone be mad 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:14.120 about this? Just let someone be mad about it. That's it. 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:16.319 I mean, almost every fan base should be. 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:22.200 Let someone be mad at this. You're mad about it, 0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:28.880 I'm mad. Yeah, you're mad about this, and you gotta 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:32.120 let Andrew Vaughn go. You're hurting. 0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:35.120 I'm gonna bring up Ree Hoskins, right y? 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:35.799 I think so? 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.680 All right? How about this? Okay, Reese Hoskins, and Jake 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.319 Berger currently deserve each other. 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:49.239 Okay, drinking buddies, not the name of a tier. They 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:51.120 just look like they would be drinking buddies. They both 0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:52.440 work at a construction site. 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.320 Reeese one of the nicer guys in baseball. Jake Burger 0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:07.520 has to be. Name's Jake Berger? Who else belongs with them? 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:14.640 Pardon me? Has all of these guys together, and it's like, 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.879 you can reason there's a chance at thirty homers. Are 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.160 we being too harsh on Reees for one year on 0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:23.759 a bad leg? 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:29.200 I'm worried about the leg going forward decently, worried about that. 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.120 The numbers didn't land in an awful spot. 0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:36.040 No, he kind of had like it's a down year 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.960 after a leg injury. He had goldies year offensively, but 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.560 he didn't have anywhere closer to that defensively, which is 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:47.480 why I'm harding him the numbers. The numbers are pretty similar. 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.200 Like, okay, I'm not even gonna say that sentence because 0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:54.520 that would just blow up the whole thing. 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:55.879 What's that? No, you gotta say? 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.680 Come on, could Reese have a better year than Wilson? 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:00.640 I don't think. 0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.920 I don't think so. I don't think it's baseball. Anything 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:11.919 can happen. Okay, Jose Miranda's on the bottom. You can't 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.359 look at him anymore. Had the most hits ever consecutively 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:21.400 that your cousin made Hamilton great? Yeah, how about that? Yeah, 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:25.920 it gets overlooked pretty quick. You think my job's cool. 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:32.959 Cousin Hammy Zach saw it this weekend. Ever, tweeted Zach, 0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.000 who's not on the board currently, Spencer Steer has to 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:42.040 go with the pile at the bottom. The four names 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.359 I'm looking at, well, Spencer Steers out them. The three 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:50.320 names I'm looking at are Jake Berger, Rhys Hoskins and 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.560 both Orioles. But as one man. 0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.040 And I have those three and Steer as a tier 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:56.280 above the young guys. 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:00.000 You're putting Steer above. Yes, you have some Spencer Steer style. 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:00.880 I do know about. 0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:01.759 I kind of like that. 0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:03.440 I think Steer is going to get better now that 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:05.840 he has one position. If you look at his baseball reference, 0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.080 each of the last two years, he's played six different positions. 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:15.319 I'll say he was good back to back twenty homer seasons. 0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.280 I think he's a good player. I think he deserves 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.520 to be above the bottom tier for sure. Who would 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.200 rather have next year Spencer Steer? Paul? 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:29.640 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:36.759 that's the point I don't think, Paul. I don't know. 0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.719 I feel like I've made you lose love for Paul. 0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:44.120 Yes, kind isn't what I expected. No. I mean there's 0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:48.000 there's something to being a certain level of reliable. I 0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:52.200 think Paul and Carlos should bring for one more summer 0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:56.879 slash one of them probably won't. We know they can 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:00.640 pick it, Yes, Steer, I know there is a guy 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:04.920 who like hasn't been good at any position. I kind 0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.279 of want to rename that one more summer question mark. 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.839 I'm okay with them because I think that's what they're 0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.319 looking for, Just one more summer. 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.000 One more summer for old times sake. 0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:21.879 So, babes, you've cleared the board. On that page, every 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:24.920 available to us is on the board. 0:42:24.960 --> 0:42:26.440 I have them. Yeah, but now we can. 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.160 Do some So now we have to finagle. 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:30.480 That was my rationale for the BOTTB tier. Let's just 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.120 get him on there and then we'll figure it out. 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:39.760 Top tier is what it is. It's very good baseball players, Okay, 0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:44.400 Pete and Christian Walker. Do they deserve their own tier 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:53.640 over Wilson, Contraras, Nathaniel Lowe, Josh Naylor, Grayley? What what 0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:59.879 did we just don't land? 0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.719 He absolutely belongs up there. 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:05.120 I cannot say that. I can't say that with a 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:10.200 clean conscious. I cannot Where do you want to put him? 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.719 I'd put him a tear down, make my brain hurt. 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:19.040 I mean, okay, Jolly, you want to play games. 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:20.160 He's not mad. 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:20.759 I've got a. 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:22.759 Game, Mariners. Make you mad. I understand this. 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:24.600 Hey, you play a lot of out of the park baseball. 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.759 You're putting together a team I do. Hey, Jolly, you 0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:31.120 could have and money doesn't matter. Let's say your owner, 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:36.759 Steve Cohen, would you rather have Luisa Rise or Luke 0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:42.880 Rayley for first base to be your first baseman in 0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:43.879 twenty twenty five. 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:49.400 I'm picking Luke Rayley. 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:50.720 Dude, I don't know. 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:52.840 Luise Rice cannot play the position. 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:54.960 Yandi Diaz or Luke Rayley. 0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:57.600 Yandi's a little more interesting because I think Yandi's a 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.200 little better defensively. He's got a little more popp. 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.800 What do you do? You have Luke Rayley being prime 0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:06.279 John Olrood at first ball? 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:08.960 But I'm saying, this is a guy that played corner 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.399 of field well, so I have to imagine he plays 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:12.080 first base well. 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:13.880 I mean, he shouldn't even be in this conversation. 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:15.440 Yes, I thought he was gonna be in the left 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:15.839 fight tier. 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:21.440 Why you should be mad at the Mariners rated out 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:28.280 poorly at first base last year. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, okay, 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.920 I'll get over, Luke real, Jake, it's your show. I'm 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:31.399 getting over. 0:44:33.600 --> 0:44:35.279 Let's move him down. You move him down. 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:37.560 He's moved down for now. 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:39.359 One being bading one. That's right. 0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.879 Paid. Pete and Christian Walker be on their own tier. 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:43.040 I think the tops. 0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.600 I think so because they just got paid like it. 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:48.319 I don't see any of the well we know for 0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:50.239 a fact controllers didn't get paid like them. He got 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.799 paid less. I don't think Nailor is going to get 0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:54.920 paid like that, And I don't think Nathaniel lo is 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:55.799 gonna get paid like that. 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:59.640 Pete and Christian Walker can be game changers for your season. 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:04.439 Christian Walker plays the whole year offense and defense. You're 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:08.239 looking at thirty homers, five war Pete Alonso. If he 0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.320 has a Pete season, he can put up a forty 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:14.560 five homer season. You feel that, yep. I think that 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:18.600 separates them from everyone else currently, So I'm okay with that, 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:18.920 I think. 0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.760 And then like you can even just play the resume 0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:23.839 game too, Like, how many great years do do Pete 0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.439 and Walker have compared to the guys below them? Say 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:30.319 more Contrarest gets unfortunately snake bitten because he's never played 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.080 the position. If he had two years of first base, 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.080 even one year of first base, he'd go in my 0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:36.640 second tier. But he's never played the position. 0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:40.279 Yeah, and I guess it'll be interesting. Bryce Harper. Bryce 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:44.640 Harper has changed the tone. Yeah, first basily I got 0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:47.120 to see it. First first base became the oh he 0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.719 actually first base isn't easy to play, and Harper's kind 0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:54.759 of been like I figured it out. Let's see what 0:45:54.800 --> 0:46:02.040 Willie does. So Wilson Contreri's Nathaniel Lowe, Josh Naylor. I 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:02.920 feel okay with that. 0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:04.239 I think I feel okay with that too. 0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:10.560 Costas is a tough one for me. I think he's 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:14.680 really good. He's never played what's his most games played. 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.000 In a seasons? 0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:17.120 Yeah? 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.839 What was that last year's War? 0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:24.319 I don't know how his defense is going to rank out. 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:29.040 I know his foot speed is slow, and trade him. 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.680 I don't really know. They were begging the Mariners to 0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:40.000 take him. It feels like they got Luke. 0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.399 Then you're gonna say that I knew the next word. 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.719 And Marrier's outfield is stacked. I have I don't know 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.160 what he's of respect for Luke Raley while being offended 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.120 by him. 0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.800 I have him below this tier now, who Louke Crayley? 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:02.400 I think so? 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:04.400 Yeah. 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.400 I like what contreres can be at first base. I 0:47:07.480 --> 0:47:10.000 know what I'm getting from Nathaniel Lowe. I kind of 0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:12.000 know what I'm getting from Naylor. Does he need to 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:12.839 go down for you? 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:13.279 No? 0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:14.839 Are we overvaluing him? 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:16.480 I don't think we are at all. 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:18.200 Well, Luke Grayley doesn't hit lefties at all. 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:20.640 Good exposed? 0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:25.040 What? Okay, how much of a gap should there be 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.160 between Josh Naylor and Jake Berger? 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:30.840 Oh? Right, now, there's a massive gap between. 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:35.399 Currently on our tier list. There's a massive gap. Jake 0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:39.000 Berger was real good. I drove by his childhood home. 0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:47.280 Listen, man, I'm just I just make video essays. Okay, 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:49.120 So I asked me the hard hitting questions. 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:50.960 Naylor has a leg up on Burger. 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.920 Jake Berger's here last year is not that Good's the 0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.319 league average bat and worth worth less than replacement level 0:47:57.360 --> 0:47:58.759 at first base, and he played one hundred and thirty 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:00.759 seven games. I don't feel that bad about him being 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.160 that low, But I do appreciate your question about me. 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.840 I just I try to talk. 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.520 Things through in one second half. That's what helps me. 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.120 It's a name value thing. 0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:10.439 Man. 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:11.880 It exists. 0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:24.040 Cassas, Passquatch, Bush, and Luke Rayley, all lefties, all young, 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:29.120 all with a chance to be very really good. 0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:34.120 Is gonna be thirty. I think Raley goes down. Those 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:38.759 three are such a tier. Really just doesn't. He doesn't fit. 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:41.960 He's a little bit older, he's not a first baseman. 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:43.120 He's in a corner outfield. 0:48:43.239 --> 0:48:44.640 I mean, I can't tell you he's going to be 0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:45.520 better than Lamont Wade. 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.399 And he's a platoon player, and maybe he should bat 0:48:47.480 --> 0:48:49.759 lead off. That's the thing for me. Really is a 0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:52.440 platoon player. The other three aren't. They're gonna play every day, 0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:53.800 they're every day first baseman. 0:48:54.840 --> 0:48:59.520 Those he's batted leadoff he has. 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:03.920 I think that's okay, And you hate the Mariners. 0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:05.480 Mariners. I like that. We kind of have a letter 0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:06.319 egoing here. 0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:11.520 Oh yeah, kind of. It's a long last. 0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:18.480 Leg, okay, Wilson, Nathaniel Naylor, Cassas, Vinnie and Bush. 0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:19.600 That feels much better. 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:24.759 Something I can come up with something fun there Arise Diaz, 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:31.520 Wade and now Luke Raley is with them. 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:33.560 You want to move no. 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:42.640 Name value is something I'm okay with that tier. 0:49:43.480 --> 0:49:46.560 It hurts to have name values. I think the most 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.040 egregious here because you think of batting titles and you 0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.560 think Arias has been like the gun for higher batting 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:56.080 title guy. But the book is out on him being 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.840 a one tool player. He's a one tool player, and 0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.719 that one tool is elite, probably better than anybody else 0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.640 in baseball. But he is a one tool player. 0:50:04.719 --> 0:50:08.479 It's true. It might be better than anyone else's tool. Right, 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:15.000 a nice tool that my way gets on base Luke Rayley, 0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:15.759 what can he do? 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:17.239 What can't he do? 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:23.319 The Olds searching for one more summer Goldie and Sandana. Yeah, 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:24.960 I mean this starts. This part starts to get a 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.600 little tricky because, like I'm looking at the tier below 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:34.239 that Burger. It kind of depends your team's construction. If 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:39.399 I needed if my offense needed thirty homers, I'd I'd 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.960 rather have Jake Burger than Goldie at this point. If 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.920 I needed a two way, seven hole hitter, I'd much 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:49.680 rather have Paul gold right. Santana has some similar arguments. 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.880 He crushed lefties last year. He played gold glove defense. 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.439 But yeah, I think I'm Okay with the Olds tier. 0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.760 I'll tell you what if I did this before free agency, 0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:03.960 I would I'd much rather have Nathaniel Low for a 0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:04.800 lefty reliever. 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:10.160 Nationals made off like Bennetts and that I feel like 0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:11.360 people won't realize that. 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:13.640 Just kind of forgot to do anything else this winter, 0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:20.960 A little scared of this. That Mo the right move. Okay, 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:25.360 so that's Berger, Hoskins, the Oriel Orioles hybrid human which 0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:29.799 is a great player, but his two people. If we're 0:51:29.800 --> 0:51:33.359 gonna knock Luke Rayley's platoon splits, Spencer Steer you love. 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:37.879 I like him, solid player. I always like the Reds 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:38.879 and Thews on me down. 0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:47.000 I'll tell you what that bottom row Miranda Keith, Shanuel Soderstrom. 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.840 I've become a Joonah Bride guy. The numbers are crazy. 0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:55.359 The numbers are kind of nice. Andrew Vaughan, you know 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:59.120 how much of that stock I've had totally barely got mentioned. 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:02.919 And he hit twenty five last year with a two 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:03.919 point two war. 0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:07.120 I met him. He's a massive human being. 0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:09.960 Is he a bottom of the guy. 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:12.319 We might have to split up the bottom round. That's 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:13.200 the next conversation. 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:19.040 That's the problem. Pop. I don't know how you do it. 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:20.080 I don't know the difference. 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.800 I am perfectly comfortable leaving everyone. 0:52:23.000 --> 0:52:26.120 I think. Unfortunately, that's the answer. I would just if 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:30.680 I was a Rockies fan, okay. 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.040 Which you are? Which you are? Mind you. 0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:37.280 Totally. It has some stuff he needs to work on. Yeah, 0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.719 and that's fine. So does everyone in the big strike 0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:44.600 cats right, there are some strikeouts. Oh, batting ages low, 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:50.000 he's hitting homers, which, hey, we like those. But negative 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:55.160 war that's cool, Okay, earn your way, earn your way. 0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:58.920 What would you change? At this point, I just I'd 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:01.960 rambled up and down the Is there anything you would change? 0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:06.960 You're a tough time I am, I am, I I'll something. 0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.200 I'm happy I've landed on because at first I was 0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:11.520 looking at this first baselist, I was like, what the fuck? 0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:16.600 And I still obviously am to a degree. The depth 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:23.480 at the position is a little impressive. Jose Miranda can 0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.279 be good, Colt Keith can be good. Shanual can be 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:32.040 really good. So I've gone through all these names. Horwitz 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.400 had some nice numbers, and it's getting penciled in to 0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:38.560 be like I like that. There's not a couple of 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:42.320 these positions you look at like shortstop, I feel like 0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.960 Urcia and a couple of those names. It's like, it 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:48.799 sucks we have to even talk about there's no upside. 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.800 It's this is what you're gonna get, and that's okay. 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.000 These guys have serious upside. 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.280 I don't think there's a bad player. Is that crazy 0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:57.880 to say. 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.439 There's not a player on here that if they were 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:02.880 on your team you couldn't talk yourself into. Yeah, I 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:06.600 mean it'll turn all these players have hope, which that's 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:11.600 that's kind of cool. I mean, Jake Berger could in 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.759 that lineup as things click. 0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:15.400 Like get on yourummy eyes. 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:23.120 Reese has a okay, Jake Burger just feels let's let's 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:26.720 rename these s tier. You want the nine figures. 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:29.719 I have it as nine figure man. Yeah, that was 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:31.160 just an easy separator from me. 0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:36.520 Like chasing each other's wallets. You get paid, I get paid, 0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.240 I get paid. I'm about to get paid. 0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:41.799 I got a new home, old home for my second tarer. 0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:42.759 But we can think of something better. 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:45.200 I was thinking. I think like new money because they 0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:51.560 both just signed a deal. Yeah, there's a uh something 0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.160 about doing free agency right and doing free agency wrong. 0:54:57.200 --> 0:54:59.279 Come on, good cop, bad cop? 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.680 Uh good owner owner. 0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:09.160 That's that's first basement. I want to circle back, right, 0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:10.600 Jolly likes the new home. 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.560 What is it? There's something better there, there's something better. 0:55:14.600 --> 0:55:17.760 I'll come back to it. My brain hurts, and please 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:23.759 make my brain hurt. Well, let's get let's Cassus Vinnie, 0:55:24.239 --> 0:55:36.920 Tristan Vinnie and Michael Bush Pasquentino and Cassas Lefty futures. 0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:41.719 Give me one sixty two something like that. 0:55:41.840 --> 0:55:43.520 I think it's give me one sixty two. Give me 0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:46.520 one sixty two because that was kind of the uniting 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:47.520 thing with all of them. 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:52.240 Yeah, I like that one be batting one. That's something. 0:55:53.200 --> 0:55:54.040 One more summer. 0:55:54.080 --> 0:56:00.480 I like that, this one, the second, the last. I'm 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:04.840 out in trouble with. I'd love thirty Homers. 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:06.480 A lot of good first basemen. 0:56:07.800 --> 0:56:11.360 That's also good. 0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:15.160 Yeah, some something with thirty homers. 0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:19.680 It's like, have they all done it? I mean, I'm 0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.480 sure the Orioles combined I have done it. But Steer hasn't. 0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:23.719 Steer's been twenty back to back. 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.040 What I need pop to pop? Like none of those 0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:28.680 guys are playing defense. 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:32.840 Right, need pop to pop like Hoskins needs pop Like 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:35.799 twenty five homers out of those guys is almost disappointing 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:37.960 except Steer. Steer's kind of the odd. 0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:39.960 But I like need pop to pop. I me to 0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:43.600 Steer if he did a thirty homer season, we'd be like, 0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.640 Steve might fly up. Yeah, if he can pick it, 0:56:47.760 --> 0:56:51.040 need pop to pop. That's just a fun word sentence 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:54.640 to say, Pat, you're mad about this. I want to 0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:57.239 change that. We've got a lot of youth and potential. 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:05.759 Uh potential almost like first base is stacked, Like I 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:18.400 don't know, potential in both directions. Like if I'm an 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:19.880 Angels fan, I'm not happy. 0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.560 If I'm a fan of anyone on the spots. 0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:23.520 They're happy with. 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:28.560 Bottom tier, but not in a bad way. 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:30.840 No offense. 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:33.880 M now that that would. 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:37.480 Read no offense. Your bad team should like this guy? 0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:38.919 Yeh. 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:43.320 I mean Twins are the only ones that can get 0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:50.400 loud there. I think Tigers, your MEDA team should like 0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:55.280 this guy. Likes this guy. 0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:05.200 Mid team high upside, which that leaves. 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:13.440 That Alonso Walker tier is Walker boris no right? Uh oh, 0:58:13.480 --> 0:58:24.520 I don't know Martini sports management. Okay, Martini. I think 0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:30.080 it's just like something about like a favorite son. Yeah, 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.520 I was, I just went to like the graduating class, 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:37.640 like they just hit free agency together and they got compared. 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:40.400 Like long lost brothers. 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:44.280 Brothers, yeah, misplaced brothers. 0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:49.280 Two halves of an elite first baseman. 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:56.480 Yeah, the glove and the stick, Yeah, the glove and 0:58:56.480 --> 0:59:02.560 the stick figure. All right, geez, let us know what 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:06.600 was horrible. I think if you're a baseball fan, you 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:08.840 just you just went for the ride with us, and 0:59:08.880 --> 0:59:10.160 I think you understand why. 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:11.480 I think this is a good list. 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:14.439 I think this is a good list. I could see 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.920 if I was a fan of the bottom row, I 0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:23.280 would be a little hot to trot the bottom two rows. 0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:26.680 Feel like you're happy there. 0:59:26.720 --> 0:59:29.560 The depth of this position ended up actually making me 0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:32.760 feel better because I got scared when we were We're 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.480 doing the second second tier of first basement and I'm 0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:38.520 thinking about Wilson Contreras. I just I don't know, and 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:43.280 hopefully that comes true for Cardinals fans in baseball. Let 0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.000 us know where you think we went absolutely wrong. 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