WEBVTT - Pod Meets Twirl'd: The Traitors 405 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.119 Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl, the podcast from two guys 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.320 who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:15.560 Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.960 now we turned to Traders, another show I've never seen, 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:21.880 while Will is convinced that he could win it. We 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.440 are wilfred Ell and Rider Strong, two best friends, one 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:29.960 a TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars, 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.640 join us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.360 and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod Meats 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:43.040 Twirled Trading Places. Yes, I Will, Hi Rider. So by 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.599 wearing a hood every episode, you're aligning yourselves with yourself 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.959 with the Traders, Well, I. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:48.800 Just you are. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.040 Frankly, it doesn't really matter either way what I am 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.319 when I get there. Eventually, I just I you know. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.160 I had the cloak. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.400 I very rarely get a chance to wear it, and 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.240 when I do, people throw stuff at me. So fun 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:01.360 to just be able to wear it in the comfort 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:03.920 of my own home. What's funny is that I actually 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.840 went into the hot tub last night and soaked for 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:07.520 a little while and then put this on after and 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.440 it's still a little damp. Oh so it's fun to 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.720 just just have a gross kind of little damp, little 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.080 little robe on me there, love it. This is what 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:18.840 we do for entertainment, my friend. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:24.400 All right, Episode five this was uh, this is a 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:25.280 dramatic one man. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.920 Yikes, yeah, yikes, yeah, yeah, this is for a lot 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.839 of reasons, for a lot of reasons. 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:36.120 But well we talked about it last episode. Just getting personal, 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.760 you know, like stuff and people. You know, it's one 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.440 thing to role play and to like call each other 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.959 like traders and faithful, like as if those things actually 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.960 mean something. But yeah, it gets it gets a little 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.400 personal in this one and started. Yeah, you know, I'm 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:57.080 really curious how this how this show plays out when 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.120 they're not celebrities or reality stars, do you know what 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:00.400 I mean? 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.560 Like, because that's how it started, right with regular people. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:04.800 I think it's I think it was a combo. At 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.480 least in the US version, it was a combo. I 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.359 think there was some celebrities, some some regular people or 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:14.080 what we call muggles, and then uh yeah, and then 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.480 I think it went all celebrity. But in the UK, 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.000 I'm not sure if they do only celebrity or they 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.720 do a combination of the two. But I know that 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.480 they're now casting for the ABC or NBC version, so 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.560 straight network of of all regular people, no. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.160 Celebrities, which again will be an interesting thing to see. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.120 Yeah, I mean, I just wonder how much of this 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:38.800 is like heightened because they're they're they're going for a drama, 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.359 do you know what? I sure because their reality or 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.079 you know, actory type people and yeah, I don't know. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.760 In the UK it started as a non celebrity then 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.120 went into celebrity, gotcha. 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.480 Okay, yeah, well I guess even if it's non celebrity, 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.919 they're probably casting people hopeing for drama, right, I mean 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:56.560 that's like the old reality show thing. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:01.840 Yeah, I think so, It's just it's yeah, it's this 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.280 was tough though. This this episode. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.800 Really was a little watching some of it through my 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.000 fingers kind of cringey. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:13.560 Yeah, all right, Well it started at breakfast, Derinda smearing 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:20.640 Ron again, no salmon, normal breakfast. He doesn't know anything 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.200 about me and my family, and I'm just like, you know, 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.680 it came up later in the episode when Ron actually 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.120 you know, set to her face, but I you know, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.560 a little less harshly, was already in my head saying 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.880 like why does that matter? It's a game, like you know, 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.440 but Derinda's just clearly playing on a social game, like the. 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:41.960 Same thing about Donna. Yeah, like Donna's not trying to 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.480 get to know any of us. Don is not telling 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.280 us about her family. And it's like, Okay, my kids 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.280 are football players and my stepdaughter's famous, super famous, So 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:51.480 what do you need to call? 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.640 And the smoke salmon drama continue again. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:56.880 There was some some looks. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:04:01.240 SSD smokes salmon drama telling you don't have it. I 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:06.320 think out of a smoke salmon com fosters, you're. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.400 More worried about coming in the late and losing the 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.200 smoke salmon then whether they get banished. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:18.000 Like wait, who was murdered? Alright, that's right handed over. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.360 Yeah, so the last two people to walk in, Tara 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.760 and Johnny meaning Monet was murdered. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.800 And that's I called it because again he's the only one, yes, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.440 who mentioned a trader's name passed through his lips. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.200 But here was my thinking why that was a bad 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:38.120 call when I when I when I saw that he 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.320 was murdered, I was like, oh, you idiots, because if 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.440 somebody mentioned somebody and then they get murdered. But that's 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.560 where they asked he mentioned he only said it to 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.000 Canvas exactly. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:55.840 I was like, oh my god, exactly, that's a I know. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.720 But but in my mind I was like, wait, who 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.000 did he say it to because I thought he said 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:00.640 it in a car with like a bunch of people. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.680 No, he said it in the woods. He just said 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.400 it in the woods to her, and he like whispered it. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.160 And he's like, I have a bad feeling about bad 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.520 vibes about Lisa. Yeah, and she's the only time, so 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.240 perfect kill right there. And that's they even say, like, I. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:13.800 Hope he didn't say it. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:15.200 I hope he didn't say it to anybody else, Like, 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:16.480 hope he didn't say it to anybody else. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:16.839 Correct. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.560 If he only said it to her, then it's a 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.880 perfect murder. It's like okay, yeah, let me take care 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:22.120 of that. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:23.560 And then you go, yeah, you're done. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.760 So and if you can't Rollo Tomasium and and get 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.960 out a regular thing, then you're done. So wait, do 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.680 you get that reference? You don't get Tomas Jensen? Did 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:36.679 you get Rollo Tomasi? 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.240 Noms Rolo Tomasi was the name of the Did you 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:46.159 ever see La Confidential? Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes, that's 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.840 the name he gave to his father's killer, who they 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.080 never caught. And so when Spacey goes and tells the 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.080 main guy, hey, I think it's him, and he turns around, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.360 he kills him in his in his kitchen, and then 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.440 before he dies, he says, rollo tomasi, So that it's. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.080 At least one thing to get out there. It's the 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:03.080 possibility of being caught. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:07.640 Yeah, it's like Wilfred Dell pull great movie. Great movie. Yep, 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:09.400 go google everybody, go watch La Confidential. 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.120 It's funny because when he said the name, I was like, 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.080 that sounds familiar. I love La Confidential. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:13.600 It's been a while. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.240 I should watch it again. 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.000 All right. After breakfast, the group split. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:20.280 Up to talk. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:26.720 Going for Ron, it almost just seems like, no, there's 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:27.400 nothing he can do. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.960 He can't win there. They're not going to keep him around. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.839 It's like, guys, unless he gets a shield every week 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.719 or find some way to make it to where he 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.640 can't be murdered every week, his time is obviously very limited. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.320 They don't like him, there's no reason not to like him. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:41.839 But now he's just there. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:42.840 I feel bad. 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.600 Ron is you know? He starts throwing out Michael and Derinda, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:53.080 which I just like it. It's so like, Okay, sure 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.880 you know you again you kind of don't like them 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.560 or they don't like you, like, but I'm just not 0:06:58.600 --> 0:06:59.839 sure what they I know. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:01.800 I think it is it comes down to, well, you 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:03.919 don't like me, well I don't like you, and that's right, 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:05.040 you know. It's that kind of thing. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.320 And then Kristen brings out Colton. 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.680 Yeah, still love Kristin. God, I love her. She's so cool. Yeah, 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:12.560 she's really cool. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.320 She also has this great quote about being confused between 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.680 like and trust, which I think it's at the heart 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.960 of like this challenge of this game, you know which 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.400 other people don't seem to be able to make that distinction, 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.360 like you can like somebody and also not trust them 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.480 in this game because it's not really their choice to 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.640 be a trader or not right, like you get selected. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.000 It's not like so once you're once you're playing the 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:39.080 game from a position, it's not personal. It's like literally 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.840 just your job to win the game is to either 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:44.000 be a trader and lie to everybody, or to be 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.200 a faithful and assume everybody's line. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.560 Like it's kind of like it's not anyway it was 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.440 a good quote. Yeah, love her. I went to her 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.080 and Mark Ballast still my team that i'd want to 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:53.520 be a part of. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.920 Right and I too, you know, I think that Kristen 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.640 naming Colton kind of makes sense. It's wrong, and we 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.080 know it's wrong, but you know, he has this mistake 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.800 that he's not adjusting his aggressiveness at all. Yeah, like 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.200 he's just constantly coming full bear like and and he 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.119 was wrong about Tiffany and has been wrong. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.040 Like I just feel like, you know, he. 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.160 Also it seems like they always they break up in 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.040 groups and they kind of almost whisper to each other. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.160 Here's who I think it is. He like gathers a 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.320 group together. He's like, here's here's what I'm voting for 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.360 and why. And it's like wow, oh wow, okay, you're 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.200 just throwing it out there. And he'll do that with 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.320 multiple groups or it's like he's like, all right, I 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.040 gotta go. It's he's in the Senate. He's like, I 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.200 gotta go whip votes, see you guys, And it's like, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.120 oh my god. And he just goes off and does it. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.760 And because you're right, he has the natural charisma. He's 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.959 a leader obviously, and he got one right. He got 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.080 the only one right so far. People gravitate towards him 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:44.800 and listen to him. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.240 But I also thought it's in a backlass. 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.640 I honestly I forgot that he was the one who 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.280 like really called out Donna. Yeah, and that does give 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.760 him more cred it does. When I was watching this 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.679 episode in the one before, I was like, why is 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.680 everyone trust He's not saying anything other than I have 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.880 a few, But you're right. I guess he had the 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.920 credit because he had called Donna. All Right, we get 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:10.120 to the mission, gather at the fountain, take the coins, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.760 but not the wrong coins with the shields that maybe 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.640 we'll go into the statue underneath how many? 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:17.960 I was like, what's going on? 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.400 There's blood statue fixing the statue, but you have to 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:24.880 go get these other statues, spend the map from the thing. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.080 I still don't know what happened, but I guess they 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.959 ran around. Something happened, and okay, but the shield thing, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.400 please explain to me, because I was sitting there going like, 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.560 the shield thing doesn't make any sense, Like there would 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.640 be no benefit to grabbing a shield then you can't 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.400 be killed, right, But if anybody knew that you had 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.240 grabbed a shield. But I thought it was going to 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.559 be revealed who grabbed a shield before roundtable. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:50.360 So did I. So did I. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:52.400 But that maybe they're not gonna touch maybe they don't 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.800 tell you who it is, or then they're just gonna say, 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.240 because we're on a cliffhanger, we don't know. Maybe they're 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.800 just gonna say, sorry, somebody grabbed a shield. 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:01.480 So now you're all up for murder and you don't 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:01.959 know who it is. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.840 But again, they'd have to tell you who it is 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.080 because then you're not allowed to vote for that person. 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.800 No, but you're not voting the traders know who it 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.840 is whose shielded, right, So wait. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.600 If you get a shield, though, you can't be murdered, right, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.240 So it's only so they could not ever know until 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:21.000 the next morning. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:22.960 But that's what I mean. I want to know when 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:23.640 it's revealed. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.800 I thought literally they were going to come back and 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.199 have to say after the challenge, me too, I took 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.280 a shield. I didn't, So then they don't and they 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.920 don't reveal that, so then they have the roundtable without 0:10:32.920 --> 0:10:34.600 knowing if anybody took a shield or not. 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.160 Which seems like I don't know. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.200 I was just very confused by the rules, and I 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.120 kind of wish they had spelled it out because it 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:40.760 was hard to. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.360 Know, Like if anybody else, wouldn't the people you were 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:48.080 there with watch you take a shield, Like would you 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:49.640 have to run back and be like, oh god, I 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:52.679 drop my phone and like go back, and they take 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.200 a shield without anybody. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.240 Knowing, Yes, this is this is what I don't understand. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:59.439 What again, this is the joy of the challenges here 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.440 are there just so unbelievably convoluted and then they just 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.400 add heavy things on top of it where it's so cool, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:06.760 but it is you're just kind. 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.040 Of going like, wait, what I get? 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.720 The premise is an interesting one where it's like, if 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.319 one person takes a shield, you can all be murdered. 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.599 If nobody takes a shield, there's not going to be 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.040 a murder tonight. Yes, And that's kind of great because 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.600 then it's like and the thing that they said when 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.160 they walked away, I think they pointed it out and 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:25.760 they did it in an interesting way, which is what 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.000 I would have done as a player, is I'd say, 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.880 all right, look, nobody's taking a shield. Anybody who takes 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.680 a shield is a trader one hundred percent yes, and 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.800 then walk away. Yes, because it's like if you take 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.079 a shield, you won't nobody will be you know, we're 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:44.000 all up for murder except you. That's fine, but the 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.960 next time we're going to kill you because you're obviously 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.080 a trader. Right, So you have to guarantee nobody's gonna 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:50.880 take a shield. I wonder if they're they have to 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.480 tell people, but maybe they only have to tell the traders. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:54.680 I don't know how, I don't know what. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.120 That's what I mean, the reveal is really important to 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.760 the case strategy, Like yes, because I was thinking, yeah, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.840 like it kind of does make I mean, especially for 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:07.880 the traders when they see four like in a pile together, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.520 it makes you there is a good argument to crowd 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.160 to like for four people to cover your butts and 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.440 just be like, okay, let's just especially if. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.079 You're Ron and you know, like everybody's out to get you, 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.600 and all you have to do is reach down and 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.520 take a shield. Hey, I'm taking a shield, right, Sorry, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:25.600 that's what's gonna happen. 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.640 But it's all about assuming other people see. This is 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.360 why they're called faithful, because it's all about having right 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.760 you have to have faith in your fellow players, but 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.960 you also know some of them are traders. It's so tough, man. 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.480 I need to know what the shield, how the shield 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:55.040 rules work. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.840 Well, they're different every time because sometimes it's like it's like, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.640 you know, if you do this thing, you know, if 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.360 you stay all the skulls, you get a shield, and 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.480 that you can't be you know, you can't be murdered 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:04.880 that night. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.800 So it's things like that too that that work. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:11.400 Colton was admitting that he had already come into the 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.240 game saying, if I get a chance to get a shield, 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.080 I'm taking it. And this at this point I realized 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.959 Colton is actually playing like the perfect trader. Yeah, he's 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.760 playing this game like a trader. He's aggressively picking who 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:28.000 he wants to get banished, making sure everybody goes on 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:30.559 board with him, right, and then like he's going to 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:35.880 take a shield, like he's really he's a perfect if 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.000 he were a trader, this is how he would play, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:38.640 do you know what I mean? 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.080 Yeah? 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.880 Yeah, And that's why I think the traders love him 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:43.800 because they get to just sit back and let this 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.800 guy do a lot of the heavy lifting. Yeah, both 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.839 literally and figuratively where it's like, Okay, he's going to 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.240 do great in the challenges, and then he's aggressively going 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.600 to go after somebody that we know is not a trader. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.319 Make a big scene. Great, let's do that, and we'll 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:57.600 hop on board with him. Hate Colton. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.719 I think he got a point about Tiffany there. And 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.120 then you keep getting getting people out and they don't 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:02.800 have to do anything. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.720 I love how ridiculously squeamish everybody was about getting in 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:08.080 the water. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.400 It's like that was great because they're all in their 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:10.920 own clothes. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.160 I know, but you like if you watch Survivor and 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.640 like the things that these people go through, put their 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:20.920 bodies through, put their foett It's like you guys, you're 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.560 you're you're at a castle. You're not even sleeping in 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.080 the castle. You get to go to a nice hotel 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.120 every night, I'm sure, but like it's it was just 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.520 hysterical the way like so many of them were like. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.840 Oh oh I gotta stand and blatter and put my 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.200 get over it. What did somebody say, am I gonna 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.360 get canas? 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.720 Was like, no, I'm gonna get a yeast infection. Who's 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:47.080 gonna take care of my kuchie, what is wrong with you? 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:48.800 It's the weirdest thing to worry about. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.760 Heyston, can I pull What's gonna go wrong with my coochie? 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.880 Can I pull that drop just from right? Or I 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:54.720 want it forever? Thank you? 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.200 It's gonna go wrong with my kouchi? 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.240 Yeah, but it was like you're gonna get a yeast 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.200 infect what But again, it's also like the every fourth 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.800 coin will be part of the third coin, where it's like, wait, what, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.720 what is actually happening? You have to find the right 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.280 coin and then you have to run off. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:23.680 Insert the coin into the statue. What like a vending machine. Damn, 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.840 my statue's broken. It's the sixteenth century vending machine. 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:34.120 This vending machine was carved by Michelangelo himself. So yeah, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.520 and then they have to carry the back place them 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.560 around to then have the blood statue. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:39.960 It's so ridiculous. 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:44.000 Reinvigorate itself. It looks cool, brilliant, cool, brilliant. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.680 And so during this, you know Colton had already he 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.160 admitted to the camera that he was thinking about the 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:55.320 shield and Candace Trader. Candace is on his team, and 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.640 she says that she thinks Colton would take a shield 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.120 if she suggested it, which she's right, And this is 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.760 when I want to Candice is a good player. 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:06.280 Yeah, she's gotten better. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.520 She's gotten way better. I was like, she's playing too 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.080 hard or talking too much. But now like she's she's fallen, 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.200 you know, she's she's mellowed out. She's taking a back 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.840 and she's reading the room right like she knows that 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.880 Colton is like gonna be her front mat and basically 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.600 like she can hide behind him. So I thought that 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.320 was really really insightful that she's she's figuring it out. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.840 And then the statues run with blood of course they do. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.360 Of course, you know why no smoke, salmon, They're all. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:43.120 All right. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:50.120 After the mission, it really became Colton versus Michael running 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:51.120 from room to room. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.640 Wow, and Ron and Derinda. 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.760 You know, it was like some some real personality standoffs 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.640 here that were not super fun. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.920 No, and real kind of gloves are off kind of situation. 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:07.200 This was nothing was was kind of subdued, and it 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.800 wasn't an undercurrent of anything anymore. They brought all this 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:13.600 stuff right to the surface and it got bad. I meant, 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:17.040 it got uncomfortable to watch, and several several points. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.280 I thought Colton going after Michael by asking to what 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.159 Alan was wearing in the turret last night. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.320 Now that was funny, brilliant, yeah. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.040 Right right, but then Michael gets flustered and just starts 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.159 yelling you know, well, of course it's yeah. Can you 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.359 imagine being married to Michael Rappaport or just being in 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.840 a family with him, like if this is how he 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:38.639 is on TV? 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.200 One of his girlfriends had to allegedly put a restraining 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.240 word on him for stalking, so that that's ae wow. 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.560 Yeah, well he's a member of the Clean Plate Club, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:50.320 So there's that. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:52.240 The guy is. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:53.520 Such an emotional wreck. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.960 It's like it's it's I think it's kind of what 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.119 makes him very compelling as as an actor too, you know, 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:02.760 like he has this like rawness to him and this 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.240 honesty about him, and like, again, I kind of appreciate 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:07.080 kind of like it. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:08.639 But yeah, I was. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.159 I was looking at my my wife and I was 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.040 just like, god, you think I'm an emotional wreck? Can 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.960 you imagine what this guy is like in home? 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:16.800 Like poor? 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.520 Like, oh my god, I. 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.200 Know, Hey, I've eaten with you too. You have much 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:21.440 better table manners. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:21.800 Than my. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:26.440 Jaw for the plate? 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.320 Do you remember Slimmer from the original Ghostbusters. 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:34.040 Exactly what it looks like, just like he looked like. 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:40.000