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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl, the podcast from two guys

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Speaker 1: who had never seen an episode of Dancing with the

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Speaker 1: Stars but took it on and walked away experts. So

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Speaker 1: now we turned to Traders, another show I've never seen,

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Speaker 1: while Will is convinced that he could win it. We

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Speaker 1: are wilfred Ell and Rider Strong, two best friends, one

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Speaker 1: a TV expert, one a TV skeptic, both dance scholars,

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Speaker 1: join us as we step into a castle full of lies, alliances,

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Speaker 1: and over the top wardrobe choices. This is Pod Meats

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Speaker 1: Twirled Trading Places. Yes, I Will, Hi Rider. So by

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Speaker 1: wearing a hood every episode, you're aligning yourselves with yourself

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Speaker 1: with the Traders, Well, I.

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Speaker 2: Just you are.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, it doesn't really matter either way what I am

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Speaker 3: when I get there. Eventually, I just I you know.

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Speaker 2: I had the cloak.

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Speaker 3: I very rarely get a chance to wear it, and

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Speaker 3: when I do, people throw stuff at me. So fun

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Speaker 3: to just be able to wear it in the comfort

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Speaker 3: of my own home. What's funny is that I actually

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Speaker 3: went into the hot tub last night and soaked for

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Speaker 3: a little while and then put this on after and

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Speaker 3: it's still a little damp. Oh so it's fun to

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Speaker 3: just just have a gross kind of little damp, little

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Speaker 3: little robe on me there, love it. This is what

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Speaker 3: we do for entertainment, my friend.

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Speaker 1: All right, Episode five this was uh, this is a

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Speaker 1: dramatic one man.

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Speaker 3: Yikes, yeah, yikes, yeah, yeah, this is for a lot

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Speaker 3: of reasons, for a lot of reasons.

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Speaker 1: But well we talked about it last episode. Just getting personal,

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Speaker 1: you know, like stuff and people. You know, it's one

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Speaker 1: thing to role play and to like call each other

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Speaker 1: like traders and faithful, like as if those things actually

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Speaker 1: mean something. But yeah, it gets it gets a little

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Speaker 1: personal in this one and started. Yeah, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: really curious how this how this show plays out when

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Speaker 1: they're not celebrities or reality stars, do you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, because that's how it started, right with regular people.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it was a combo. At

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Speaker 3: least in the US version, it was a combo. I

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Speaker 3: think there was some celebrities, some some regular people or

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Speaker 3: I think it went all celebrity. But in the UK,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they do only celebrity or they

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Speaker 3: do a combination of the two. But I know that

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Speaker 3: they're now casting for the ABC or NBC version, so

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Speaker 3: straight network of of all regular people, no.

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Speaker 2: Celebrities, which again will be an interesting thing to see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just wonder how much of this

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Speaker 1: is like heightened because they're they're they're going for a drama,

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Speaker 1: do you know what? I sure because their reality or

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Speaker 1: you know, actory type people and yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: In the UK it started as a non celebrity then

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Speaker 4: went into celebrity, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, well I guess even if it's non celebrity,

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Speaker 1: they're probably casting people hopeing for drama, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's like the old reality show thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, It's just it's yeah, it's this

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Speaker 2: was tough though. This this episode.

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Speaker 3: Really was a little watching some of it through my

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well it started at breakfast, Derinda smearing

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Speaker 1: Ron again, no salmon, normal breakfast. He doesn't know anything

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Speaker 1: about me and my family, and I'm just like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it came up later in the episode when Ron actually

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Speaker 1: like why does that matter? It's a game, like you know,

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Speaker 1: but Derinda's just clearly playing on a social game, like the.

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Speaker 3: Same thing about Donna. Yeah, like Donna's not trying to

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Speaker 3: get to know any of us. Don is not telling

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Speaker 3: us about her family. And it's like, Okay, my kids

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Speaker 3: are football players and my stepdaughter's famous, super famous, So

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Speaker 3: what do you need to call?

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Speaker 1: And the smoke salmon drama continue again.

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Speaker 2: There was some some looks.

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Speaker 3: SSD smokes salmon drama telling you don't have it. I

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Speaker 3: think out of a smoke salmon com fosters, you're.

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Speaker 1: More worried about coming in the late and losing the

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Speaker 2: Like wait, who was murdered? Alright, that's right handed over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the last two people to walk in, Tara

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Speaker 3: And that's I called it because again he's the only one, yes,

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Speaker 1: But here was my thinking why that was a bad

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Speaker 1: where they asked he mentioned he only said it to

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Speaker 1: Canvas exactly.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, exactly, that's a I know.

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Speaker 1: But but in my mind I was like, wait, who

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Speaker 3: No, he said it in the woods. He just said

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Speaker 1: And he's like, I have a bad feeling about bad

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Speaker 1: vibes about Lisa. Yeah, and she's the only time, so

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Speaker 1: perfect kill right there. And that's they even say, like, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope he didn't say it.

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Speaker 3: I hope he didn't say it to anybody else, Like,

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Speaker 3: hope he didn't say it to anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 3: If he only said it to her, then it's a

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Speaker 3: perfect murder. It's like okay, yeah, let me take care

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Speaker 2: And then you go, yeah, you're done.

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Speaker 3: So and if you can't Rollo Tomasium and and get

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Speaker 3: out a regular thing, then you're done. So wait, do

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Speaker 3: you get that reference? You don't get Tomas Jensen? Did

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Speaker 3: you get Rollo Tomasi?

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Speaker 5: Noms Rolo Tomasi was the name of the Did you

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Speaker 5: ever see La Confidential? Oh yeah, yeah, yes, yes, that's

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Speaker 5: the name he gave to his father's killer, who they

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Speaker 5: he kills him in his in his kitchen, and then

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Speaker 5: before he dies, he says, rollo tomasi, So that it's.

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Speaker 3: At least one thing to get out there. It's the

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Speaker 3: possibility of being caught.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Wilfred Dell pull great movie. Great movie. Yep,

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Speaker 2: go google everybody, go watch La Confidential.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because when he said the name, I was like,

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Speaker 1: that sounds familiar. I love La Confidential.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while.

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Speaker 1: I should watch it again.

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Speaker 2: All right. After breakfast, the group split.

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Speaker 1: Up to talk.

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Speaker 3: Going for Ron, it almost just seems like, no, there's

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Speaker 2: He can't win there. They're not going to keep him around.

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Speaker 3: It's like, guys, unless he gets a shield every week

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Speaker 3: They don't like him, there's no reason not to like him.

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Speaker 3: But now he's just there.

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Speaker 2: I feel bad.

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Speaker 1: Ron is you know? He starts throwing out Michael and Derinda,

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Speaker 1: which I just like it. It's so like, Okay, sure

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Speaker 1: you know you again you kind of don't like them

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Speaker 1: or they don't like you, like, but I'm just not

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Speaker 2: I think it is it comes down to, well, you

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Speaker 1: And then Kristen brings out Colton.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still love Kristin. God, I love her. She's so cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She also has this great quote about being confused between

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Speaker 1: of like this challenge of this game, you know which

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Speaker 1: other people don't seem to be able to make that distinction,

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Speaker 1: like you can like somebody and also not trust them

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Speaker 1: in this game because it's not really their choice to

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Speaker 1: It's not like so once you're once you're playing the

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Speaker 1: game from a position, it's not personal. It's like literally

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Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like it's not anyway it was

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Speaker 2: a good quote. Yeah, love her. I went to her

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Speaker 2: and Mark Ballast still my team that i'd want to

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Speaker 1: Right and I too, you know, I think that Kristen

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Speaker 1: naming Colton kind of makes sense. It's wrong, and we

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Speaker 1: that he's not adjusting his aggressiveness at all. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: Like I just feel like, you know, he.

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Speaker 3: Also it seems like they always they break up in

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Speaker 3: Here's who I think it is. He like gathers a

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Speaker 3: And because you're right, he has the natural charisma. He's

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Speaker 2: But I also thought it's in a backlass.

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Speaker 1: I honestly I forgot that he was the one who

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Speaker 1: like really called out Donna. Yeah, and that does give

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Speaker 1: him more cred it does. When I was watching this

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Speaker 1: a few, But you're right. I guess he had the

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Speaker 1: to the mission, gather at the fountain, take the coins,

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Speaker 1: but not the wrong coins with the shields that maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll go into the statue underneath how many?

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Speaker 2: I was like, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: There's blood statue fixing the statue, but you have to

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Speaker 1: I still don't know what happened, but I guess they

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Speaker 1: ran around. Something happened, and okay, but the shield thing,

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Speaker 1: please explain to me, because I was sitting there going like,

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Speaker 1: the shield thing doesn't make any sense, Like there would

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Speaker 1: be no benefit to grabbing a shield then you can't

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Speaker 1: be killed, right, But if anybody knew that you had

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Speaker 1: grabbed a shield. But I thought it was going to

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Speaker 1: be revealed who grabbed a shield before roundtable.

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Speaker 2: So did I. So did I.

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Speaker 3: But that maybe they're not gonna touch maybe they don't

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Speaker 3: just gonna say, sorry, somebody grabbed a shield.

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Speaker 2: So now you're all up for murder and you don't

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Speaker 3: But again, they'd have to tell you who it is

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Speaker 3: If you get a shield, though, you can't be murdered, right,

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Speaker 3: So it's only so they could not ever know until

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Speaker 2: But that's what I mean. I want to know when

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Speaker 1: I thought literally they were going to come back and

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Speaker 2: Which seems like I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Know, Like if anybody else, wouldn't the people you were

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Speaker 2: Knowing, Yes, this is this is what I don't understand.

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Speaker 3: What again, this is the joy of the challenges here

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Speaker 3: The premise is an interesting one where it's like, if

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Speaker 3: If nobody takes a shield, there's not going to be

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Speaker 3: then it's like and the thing that they said when

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Speaker 3: all right, look, nobody's taking a shield. Anybody who takes

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Speaker 3: then walk away. Yes, because it's like if you take

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Speaker 3: all up for murder except you. That's fine, but the

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Speaker 3: next time we're going to kill you because you're obviously

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Speaker 2: I don't know how, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean, the reveal is really important to

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Speaker 3: You're Ron and you know, like everybody's out to get you,

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Speaker 1: But it's all about assuming other people see. This is

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Speaker 1: why they're called faithful, because it's all about having right

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Speaker 1: I need to know what the shield, how the shield

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Speaker 3: Well, they're different every time because sometimes it's like it's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you do this thing, you know, if

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Speaker 2: So it's things like that too that that work.

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Speaker 1: Colton was admitting that he had already come into the

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Speaker 1: I'm taking it. And this at this point I realized

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Speaker 1: Colton is actually playing like the perfect trader. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: playing this game like a trader. He's aggressively picking who

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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's why I think the traders love him

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Speaker 3: literally and figuratively where it's like, Okay, he's going to

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Speaker 2: Make a big scene. Great, let's do that, and we'll

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Speaker 2: hop on board with him. Hate Colton.

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Speaker 3: I think he got a point about Tiffany there. And

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Speaker 1: I love how ridiculously squeamish everybody was about getting in

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Speaker 2: It's like that was great because they're all in their

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Speaker 1: I know, but you like if you watch Survivor and

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Speaker 1: like the things that these people go through, put their

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Speaker 1: you're you're at a castle. You're not even sleeping in

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Speaker 1: the castle. You get to go to a nice hotel

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Speaker 1: every night, I'm sure, but like it's it was just

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Speaker 2: Oh oh I gotta stand and blatter and put my

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Speaker 2: get over it. What did somebody say, am I gonna

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Speaker 2: get canas?

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Speaker 1: Was like, no, I'm gonna get a yeast infection. Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna take care of my kuchie, what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: It's the weirdest thing to worry about.

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Speaker 4: Heyston, can I pull What's gonna go wrong with my coochie?

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Speaker 4: Can I pull that drop just from right? Or I

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Speaker 4: want it forever? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: It's gonna go wrong with my kouchi?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was like you're gonna get a yeast

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Speaker 3: infect what But again, it's also like the every fourth

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Speaker 3: coin will be part of the third coin, where it's like, wait, what,

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Speaker 3: what is actually happening? You have to find the right

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Speaker 1: Insert the coin into the statue. What like a vending machine. Damn,

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Speaker 1: my statue's broken. It's the sixteenth century vending machine.

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Speaker 3: This vending machine was carved by Michelangelo himself. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then they have to carry the back place them

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Speaker 3: around to then have the blood statue.

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Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Reinvigorate itself. It looks cool, brilliant, cool, brilliant.

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Speaker 1: And so during this, you know Colton had already he

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Speaker 1: shield and Candace Trader. Candace is on his team, and

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Speaker 1: she says that she thinks Colton would take a shield

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Speaker 1: if she suggested it, which she's right, And this is

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Speaker 1: when I want to Candice is a good player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gotten better.

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Speaker 1: She's gotten way better. I was like, she's playing too

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Speaker 1: you know, she's she's mellowed out. She's taking a back

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Speaker 1: and she's reading the room right like she knows that

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Speaker 1: Colton is like gonna be her front mat and basically

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Speaker 1: like she can hide behind him. So I thought that

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Speaker 1: And then the statues run with blood of course they do.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you know why no smoke, salmon, They're all.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: After the mission, it really became Colton versus Michael running

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Speaker 2: Wow, and Ron and Derinda.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was like some some real personality standoffs

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Speaker 3: No, and real kind of gloves are off kind of situation.

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Speaker 3: This was nothing was was kind of subdued, and it

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Speaker 3: it got uncomfortable to watch, and several several points.

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Speaker 1: I thought Colton going after Michael by asking to what

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Speaker 1: Alan was wearing in the turret last night.

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Speaker 2: Now that was funny, brilliant, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right right, but then Michael gets flustered and just starts

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Speaker 1: yelling you know, well, of course it's yeah. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine being married to Michael Rappaport or just being in

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Speaker 4: One of his girlfriends had to allegedly put a restraining

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Speaker 4: word on him for stalking, so that that's ae wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's a member of the Clean Plate Club,

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Speaker 2: So there's that.

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Speaker 4: The guy is.

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Speaker 2: Such an emotional wreck.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's it's I think it's kind of what

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Speaker 1: like he has this like rawness to him and this

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I was.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at my my wife and I was

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Speaker 1: just like, god, you think I'm an emotional wreck? Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine what this guy is like in home?

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Speaker 4: Like poor?

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Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I.

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Speaker 3: Know, Hey, I've eaten with you too. You have much

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Speaker 3: better table manners.

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Speaker 5: Than my.

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Speaker 1: Jaw for the plate?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember Slimmer from the original Ghostbusters.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what it looks like, just like he looked like.

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Speaker 1: The whole plate goes down afterwards, the fork Slimer.

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Speaker 2: God, it's crazy like watching him. This is reality.

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Speaker 3: He is the quintessential example of reality TV.

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Speaker 2: You just can't look away, you can't look away. I

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Speaker 1: So Ron just flat out tells Deranda that he thinks

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Speaker 1: here that that he said the thing about I don't

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Speaker 1: all right, So but it started here, yeah, and then Michael,

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Speaker 2: It was it was a lot o okay.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I was like, man, the traders are

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Speaker 3: Loving it, and they don't have to do anything. They

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Speaker 3: it's the graded. They just get to step back and

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's great, and uh yeah, Michael starts off super

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Speaker 1: your name out, you just defend yourself and just say

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Speaker 1: I'm not. But instead it's like, how dare you. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: we have to call somebody. Somebody is a trader, right, So.

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Speaker 3: It's not not exactly you're like, you've been flying under

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Speaker 2: No, of course. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's always so weird to me that these

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Speaker 1: It's like, well, we're our job is to not trust

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Speaker 3: And I've known you for six days exactly, No, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Colton does have some evid you know, his his evidence

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Speaker 1: is that everyone but one who was written Michael's name

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00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 1: down has been banished or.

439
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: Which is valid by the way. Yeah.

440
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because that's what you'd want to do if

441
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 3: you're a traders, get rid of everybody who thinks you're

442
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 3: the trader.

443
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 2: So okay, right, understandable.

444
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 3: You couple that with the fact that he's very brusque

445
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 3: people don't like him.

446
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 2: Well, that's what it really comes down, That's what it

447
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: comes down to.

448
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,239
Speaker 3: They just want and then eventually, you know, as we

449
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 3: will talk about. That's what it just becomes is they're like,

450
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 3: we just don't want you here anymore.

451
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love during to Colin Ron a housewife hunter.

452
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 1: What housewife hunters? He's really really into getting rid of

453
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 1: the housewives on the show.

454
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird argument. Okay, you came in to

455
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 2: kill all the housewives, gotcha?

456
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, this is when she said the thing

457
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 1: about Harry doesn't get to know her family or doesn't

458
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: want to know about her family, and and he says,

459
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: my family is none of your business, which it a

460
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 1: valid point. It was a little harshly said.

461
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

462
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Again, at this point, I think he's just walking around

463
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: angry where it's like everybody hates me. I'm apparently the

464
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: nicest guy in comedy. Nobody likes me. I no matter

465
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 3: what I say, they're jumping down my throat. They're gonna

466
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 3: kick me off eventually. I'm at least gonna go down swinging.

467
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

468
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's terrible. I feel bad for Roun like

469
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: I legit, feel bad for Ron too, me too. And

470
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 3: you wonder who the next run is going to be,

471
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 3: because when he does get kicked off, that hatred will

472
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 3: go somewhere else.

473
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

474
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: There's there's always got to be a scapegoat, right like,

475
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: and it's so misdirected in this case. Yeah, the traders

476
00:21:50,160 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 1: are just getting away scott free, all right. And then,

477
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: of course, the probably the most dramatic moment is when

478
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: Michael says, nobody in this room to be better at

479
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 1: holding the secret than you, Colton, which is pretty obviously

480
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: a reference to him not coming out yet.

481
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: I know, yes, And he tried to walk it back.

482
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 2: He tries to walk it back. You can't, that's out.

483
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what you meant, dude, you meant this

484
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: guy's been lying his whole life because of course, being

485
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: a football player, the easiest thing to do is come

486
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: out of the closet. So it's like, yeah, everybody knows

487
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: how simple that is. So yeah, that was you knew

488
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: this set. And here's the thing. I went back and

489
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 3: watched it twice before he said that. He was making

490
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: valid points, and I think people around the table were

491
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: starting to listen to it about Colton, Yeah they were.

492
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: And then he said and everyone's like, I don't even

493
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 3: want to have anything to do with you ever.

494
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: Again he was winning the argument.

495
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I feel like more than fifty percent

496
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: of this room is queer, right, Like, so you're really

497
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: you're in the worst position, Like why would you possibly

498
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: think that that's a valid argument, Like you're talking to

499
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: a room of people, like half of them are gay,

500
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, or if they're not, they're super gay friendly.

501
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Mike, exactly.

502
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: This is just yeah, it's just but you know, this

503
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: is like, this is his mouth just going. You know,

504
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: he's like he does stuff before you think if he

505
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 1: had thought it through, he you know, And I guess

506
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: what really is disappointing to me is he probably should

507
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: have just immediately been like, oh shit, that was over

508
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, I apologize, I apologize, But instead he's

509
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: trying to defend himself saying that's not what I meant.

510
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: I didn't I wasn't insane.

511
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: But you're like, there's actually no nothing else I think

512
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 1: you could have meant, do you know what I mean?

513
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: Like, I also have to disagree a little bit with

514
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: what you're saying. I think I don't think he said

515
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 3: this heat of the monk. I think he's been thinking

516
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 3: this for days. Yeah, that he's that this guy's gay

517
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: and he's been holding that If anybody could hold the secret.

518
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 2: It's that guy, and then it came out of his

519
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: mind and you know what, But you know what I

520
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 2: think if it came out and.

521
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: It was pointed out to you, which I think Johnny does,

522
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: is like, you know, the the that not being able

523
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: to come out of the closet is as much a

524
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: self deception and a traumatic situation, like you know, it's

525
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: it's not like a conscious lie, you know, like like

526
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: just explaining that to.

527
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: I know, he said.

528
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 3: No, but Colton said that a couple episodes ago, remember

529
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: where he was like, They're like, wait, you're in the

530
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: football you played football and you're a bachelor. He's like, yep,

531
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: trying to convince myself I was straight for years, like

532
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: he he.

533
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: Says this episode, I think, Okay, I know he says that,

534
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: which I think that's why they had that moment, is

535
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: because they had to set up this conversations because that

536
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: was why they included it. And yeah, I know, because

537
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I I could I guess basically,

538
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying I could see that. I think there are

539
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people who probably have Michael's opinion about

540
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: gay people out there, you know, or people that are

541
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: in the closet, yes, And I think it's if he

542
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: said it and then it's pointed out to him, like

543
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: that's not how this really works, dude, Like you know,

544
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: and Colton is saying, like I was not lying. I

545
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: was trying so hard to be something that I wasn't feeling.

546
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: You know, denial is not denying exactly exactly. It's self

547
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: deception as much as you know. And I think that

548
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: the second that that comes out, Michael Rappaport could have

549
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 1: walked it back and just been like, you know what,

550
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: I didn't think of it that way. You're right, I'm

551
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: so sorry. That is unfair, like being being gay in closet.

552
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: It does not make you a better liar or tilling

553
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: this person, which is essentially what he was saying. So

554
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, he could have walked it back, even even

555
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: off camp, even out of the round table when he

556
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: was doing his follow up defense at the instead, it's

557
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: just like I was in a situate. So it's a

558
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: real bummer man, Like that could have been a moment.

559
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he also does the typical thing that people

560
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: always do, where it's without taking accountability, the no accountability

561
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: account I'm sorry that you felt that way.

562
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: Exactly.

563
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: It's like, no, no, no, no, be sorry you said it.

564
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: Don't be sorry that you felt that you made someone

565
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: feel bad.

566
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: And he could have just I think it would have

567
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: been a service to a lot of people who out

568
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: there who might feel that way to hear him say

569
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I heard this and I'm adjusting my thing. Yeah,

570
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: because that is unfair, like that is an unfair and

571
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: stead he said, it's not what I meant. It's like, yes,

572
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: it is, dude, I don't know what I mean.

573
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Could have possibly meant. Of course that's what he meant.

574
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: That pissed me off.

575
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 3: Man.

576
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: That was like yeah, and that's why he was gone.

577
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: It didn't matter me.

578
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 3: They even said, they're like, I just don't want castle.

579
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't care if you're a trader or faithful anymore.

580
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: I just don't want you here. I don't care.

581
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: And so yeah, you knew, you knew what it was

582
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: gonna He knew too the second it came out of

583
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: his mouth and he got that response, he knew. And

584
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: if you go back and you watch it again, he

585
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 3: was winning the argument. He was making valid points about Colton,

586
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 3: and then he came out with that, and it.

587
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: Was like, get out, you're We're done with you. I

588
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: don't care.

589
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: It was very similar to a moment on Survivor where

590
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: a trans character was outed for being trans they had

591
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 1: not you know, yeah, he was this great player and

592
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: and uh, another another player was getting heat and he

593
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: decided to try and get heat off of him by saying, like,

594
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: why haven't you told everybody that you're trans?

595
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 3: And it was like, dude, wow, so born female and

596
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: transition to male.

597
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: And but you know, like it was just you know,

598
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: it's like so under the belt off like people and

599
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: just immediately, immediately everybody was like nope, you're just gonna

600
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: leave now.

601
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: Chef Probes is like, we don't. I don't think they

602
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: had a vote. It was just like walk away, dude. Yeah.

603
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: It was a very This was like an echo of

604
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: that moment in some ways. I mean that was more

605
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: extreme because it was actually outing, you know, against somebody's will.

606
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: But in this case, yeah, you could.

607
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: Just yeah, such a bomber, dude, it is.

608
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: And it took it to a whole different kind of

609
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: level and it was like, yeah, we it did. It

610
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 3: brought it back to the fact that it is a game.

611
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we want to.

612
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: We want to play the game, and we'd rather do

613
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: it without somebody like saying ship like that here. So

614
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: if you could go, that'd be awesome, and then we're

615
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 3: just going to write down your name.

616
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: That's let's just go.

617
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: But all of which you know is it's not good

618
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: playing the game is going well, faithful, it is no one,

619
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the traders are are so you could be.

620
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: Right, maybe maybe this is the year that that the

621
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 3: Traders walk away with the money.

622
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: Well at the end of this episode though, Colton thinks

623
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: it could be.

624
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: Least and somebody also they now they're really starting to

625
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: mention Colton. So I do want to very quickly because

626
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: in our last Dancing with the Stars podcast, A Wonderful One,

627
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: I told you that I am was a master of

628
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 3: knowing everything about history when it comes to dance expert.

629
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm also a traders expert.

630
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you're aware of that, a famous

631
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: trade TV show of actual famous traders throughout history. And

632
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: I wanted to put it in and I realized Michael

633
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,959
Speaker 3: Rappaport is arguably the most famous person around that table,

634
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: which led me to believe was like, you know what

635
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: I haven't told ryder about is other famous traders from

636
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: his Okay, and so we're gonna start a new segment

637
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: now that's called whiz famous traders from history or something

638
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: that's not the history of dance.

639
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: I'm still working on the song.

640
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: Yea, the song could use a little I'm working on it.

641
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: I agree, maybe some notes, not just like note I'm

642
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: the key I'm picking is wrong.

643
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the key I've picked.

644
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: But we're going to start today with uh Failties of Trachis.

645
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: He's from the fifth century BC. Yes, A Failties and

646
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: in for ADBC. A Failties betrayed the Greek impatriots by

647
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: revealing a little known goat trail in the mountains at

648
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Thermopylae in eastern Greece to the massive invading army of

649
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: the Persian king Xerxes. They outflanked the small force, mostly

650
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: by Spartan warriors who had held off the Persian army

651
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: for three days, killing all of them and continuing their

652
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: march southward. I Failties hope for a place in the

653
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: new order of Greece in Greece of Persia one, as

654
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: well as a monitory a reward, but instead Greece prevailed

655
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: and a Failties wound up with a price in his head.

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Speaker 3: He was eventually killed, believe it or not for unrelated reasons.

657
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Speaker 3: But ever since the backstabbing of the Greeks at Thermopylae,

658
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Speaker 3: the Greek word for nightmare is still a failties.

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Speaker 2: Well, he is a famous trader. Isn't that what three

660
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Speaker 2: hundred is based on? It is?

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Speaker 4: This is not wildly natural. I mean, he says he

662
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: knows it, but it felt felt kind.

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Speaker 2: Of No, that's natural. I like to say it as

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Speaker 2: if I'm reading it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like you want to sound scholarly, erect

666
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: a monotone of Wikipedia right now while I'm talking to you.

667
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: But you couldn't possibly be doing that because I'm you're

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00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: looking at me.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking right and you know me in the computer,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to do two things at once,

671
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Speaker 3: so I wouldn't know how to look up something and

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Speaker 3: have a separate I think they're called window. So I'm

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00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: just looking at you, and I wanted to tell you

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Speaker 3: a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. We're gonna have a new little segment,

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Speaker 2: and I hope you enjoy it. A Failties a Failties

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Speaker 2: a Failties.

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Speaker 1: Here you go all right, Well, sweet Dreams don't have.

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Speaker 3: A failty and Failties was also known for just shoveling

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Speaker 3: food into his mouth.

681
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: Little known fact.

682
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: Cut it out of three hundred smoke salmon into it. Yeah.

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: The thing about Michael, I really did come into this

684
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: season liking him, and like you I there's something like,

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00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, like naive about him, about his like and

686
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: even when he's kind of an emotional like mess or

687
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: a dick, I was always like, oh, you're a good guy.

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00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. That's because you only know him from movies.

689
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: I know he stinks social media, he stinks so much ways.

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00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, really I don't know. I don't know anything about him,

691
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: know him.

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00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: Family, that's yeah, I'm only known for movies.

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00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: And like now I'm like, you're lucky.

694
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: Because this was this was a really like I said,

695
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: this was a chance man, like you could you could

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00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: be an idiot thinking that and once it's corrected, like

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00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: it's it's just the change exactly, And like you know,

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00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: because what I guess, I guess I don't. I don't

699
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: like the expectation that everybody is supposed to be perfect

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: about a lot of these things. Do you know what

701
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: things like sexuality gender race, Like it's hard, you know,

702
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: it's like they're not always natural for everybody, and especially

703
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: how people are raised, and you know whatever, they're inheriting

704
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: bigotry or just blindness.

705
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: Or just lack of knowledge totally.

706
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Like, So if you say something dumb or offensive and

707
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: you don't mean it or you don't understand how it like,

708
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: learn from learn from it, learn from it.

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00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: We've all been there, dude. It's the way it works.

710
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: And it's it's the people that instantly, again, first try

711
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 3: to backtrack what they said right. Then they try to

712
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: justify what they said. Then they apologize for making someone

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00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: else feel bad with what they said, as opposed to

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00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: taking any accountability or learning from it, which.

715
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Is all we do.

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00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: That's what life is is learning. So maybe he goes

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: home and has an epiphany. You never know, maybe he

718
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: watches himself back and doesn't like what he sees and

719
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: becomes a better person for it.

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Speaker 4: I will say today, even though I hate defending me

721
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: such a garbage but I will say today, he said

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00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: in an interview him and Colton are in contact and

723
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: totally fine and friends and whatever. But yeah, Michael wrapport sucks.

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00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's good to hear, though at least they're like,

725
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, able to talk after this? Yeah, not hold it?

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00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, all right. So yeah, now Rob overheard

728
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: this that Colton thinks it's Lisa, And I do think

729
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: Colton gives a good argument, which is, wait, wait, who

730
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: is it that he asks? He asks somebody like, is

731
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: she does? Isn't she more like usually a little more

732
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: outgoing middle But yeah, have you ever not seen Lisa

733
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: talk like that? It's Dinda?

734
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: Right, it was Dirinda, I think, yeah, Direnda's like, yeah, no,

735
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: I've never another housewife.

736
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Yes, so this is where but again I don't know.

737
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: Colton might be the perfect person to keep around because

738
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: again he gets everybody to vote for other people and

739
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: they've but if he's getting it everybody to vote for

740
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: a trader.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

742
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: This is where you don't know what's gonna happen.

743
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: Oh, we blew right past my favorite moment, which is

744
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: the commiserate thing. Oh, he just keeps saying, Coulton, what

745
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: are the three season corrupt? Commiserate? And then who is

746
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: it that this points Rob? Oh my d by the way,

747
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: dressed in just overalls, Oh.

748
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: My god, underneath to feel sympathy. We got to stop this.

749
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: It's like he's like more upset about the.

750
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: Fact that he's misusing the word commiserate than anybody said.

751
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: And I loved it.

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00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: That's why I sort of got this guy sitting there

753
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: with a snake tattoo that takes up his whole body,

754
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: that is just wearing overalls is actually a secret genius,

755
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: is what I think is going on, which is amazing.

756
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: It's funny because I mean, I like, I didn't think

757
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: about it until he pointed it out.

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00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't sound right. I was like,

759
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: is that the right word? But it didn't. I didn't.

760
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember what the actual definition was.

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00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: So he said it. I was like, good job, dude.

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00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: That's not all, is it.

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00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: I love it.

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00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it anyway. So Rob over

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00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: here is Colton uh uh suspecting Lisa Lisa, which is

766
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: bad news because then he can go right back to

767
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: Lisa and say, ham it up a little bit because

768
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: they're gotten.

769
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: But it does.

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00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: I think of the traders, Lisa's probably the most exposed

772
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: right now.

773
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: I would agree this is twice now people have said

774
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: her name, well, her horrible lion too.

775
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: You know, it was bad lying and I think even

776
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: if people didn't realize it in the at the time,

777
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: it can get you know, it's it's subconscious, it's in.

778
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: The back of your brain.

779
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: Like that was a little weird, you know, like she

780
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: acted a little strange that morning, and you don't even

781
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: quite know why exactly.

782
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, I agree, this was a very got just

783
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: an interesting episode for so many reasons. We still don't

784
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: know if any forget forget all the craziness was rapaport.

785
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 2: We still don't know if somebody took a shield.

786
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: Oh well, we still have no idea there's going to

787
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: be or what the hell is going on?

788
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: Right, so they just they're going to tell the traders

789
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: right now in the turret, Like, yeah.

790
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: I'm so curious.

791
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: I'm so curious how they're going to do it, so

792
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: nobody knows official was taken, if a murder's even going

793
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: to occur.

794
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, crazy, just absolutely crazy.

795
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for this episode of Pod meets Twirld.

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00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: Alliances were tested, trust misplace, and once again we're left

797
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: with a cliffhanger. Join us next time as we continue

798
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: our journey through season four of Traders, a show in which,

799
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: as Shakespeare said in his Scottish play, fair is foul

800
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: and foul is fair, And who's going to take care

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00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: of my Kutchiet