1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: up on this Thursday edition. Of course, we're gonna have 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: the usuals. Albert Breer stops by, We've got the leftovers, 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: we're handing out an award, and we've got in case 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: you missed it, We're also going to talk about Game 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: five of the World Series that went a little bit 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: different than a lot of people thought it was going to. 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: But there's kind of a false narrative about this matchup 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: between the Blue Jays and the Dodgers. We'll discuss also 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: going to discuss the turnaround in Detroit that resulted in 12 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: a payday for Aiden Hutchinson. We're gonna have a conversation 13 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: about somebody who clearly has their priorities in line when 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: it comes to coaching hires in the world of college football. 15 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: A surprise for Thursday Night Football, and at least we 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: know where the national championships are going to be for 17 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. It's all yours. 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Yeah. 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: They look like that eighteen inning game kind of stole 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: every ounce of energy they had left in them. Oh no, 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: And I think Petros pointed it out on social media. 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: They looked old, they look afraid, and Baltimore is just 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: slugging away and Baltimore U or excuse me, Toronto. 54 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: I was about to say, Wow, Toronto's just slugging away 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: bird and that's an oriole, that's true. 56 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: And uh. And they're headed back to Canada for Game 57 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: six and seven coming up Friday Saturday night. 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 3: Dang. 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Not not what everybody thought, but not the 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. I want seven games. I 61 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: said it from the get go. I want to see 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: seven games. That company man right there, let's let's get 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: this rocking. Yeah, Kenda sub jays kind of blue Jays maintain. 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: See now, it's like you had that two game giveaway, 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, where you're getting your your rest or you're 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: getting yourself back together during that two game stretch. Can 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays handle the next two games? Or did 68 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: they did they shoot their load to get back to Toronto? 69 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? 70 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: Did they give did they give their all to get 71 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: back to Toronto? 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, and they got nothing left? 73 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: And maybe or maybe even the emotional you know, the 74 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: emotional aspect of going into to the Los Angeles and 75 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: winning at Dodger Stadium. You know, there could be some 76 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 3: hangover from that. 77 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm viewing this differently, but it's not so much 78 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 5: to me like the whatever you just said as far 79 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: as like the the I'm not eve gonna repeat. 80 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: What you must said. But me, I mean, what are 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: you talking about? If you shoot you you know, I 82 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 3: don't know. 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 5: I don't feel like they're the exertion that baseball players 84 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 5: put out unless. 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: You're pitching, Uh maybe catching, that's kind of the extent. 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 5: Like it's it's not you're not running a marathon every 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: time you're playing nine endings or even if you go 88 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 5: to eighteen. This to me is more about this this 89 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: thought that when when we first saw the World Series announced, 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: we thought the Dodgers were gonna win, hey in four 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 5: and five, Like that was some of the conversation, Like 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 5: people made this series made out to be a David 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: versus Eliath. 94 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, we kind of forget that. 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 5: Okay, they played in the regular season, the Dodgers weren't 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 5: like that much better, and in fact, the Blue Jays 97 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 5: obviously won a game more, which is why Toronto has 98 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: home field. Like these teams are much more evenly matched, 99 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 5: and might I say, like outside of the star power 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 5: that the Dodgers have, the team, the entire Toronto Blue 101 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 5: Jays team has kind of showed up more so in 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: a better spot than the Dodgers have. 103 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: Like I kind of sit there and just watch. 104 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: This series and say, like, this is basically a team 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 5: that was all about hype because they've got arguably the 106 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 5: greatest talent we've ever seen in baseball and some other, 107 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, really good players. But then that 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 5: kind of just that's kind of it. It feels like 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 5: you've got a team versus a bunch of like star power, 110 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 5: star player individuals, and we're kind of seeing how that's 111 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 5: playing out right now. 112 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know about what he's 113 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: talking about. All I'm saying is, since when the emotions 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: run high, you were just. 115 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: So good to be back by the way at LSU Florida, 116 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: then Penn State, they're head coaching search. 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 4: That's what I'm getting, at least from the people out there. 118 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: What's interesting, who say good? 119 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: What LSU Florida, fron State, the order of appeal, That's 120 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: how the. 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: Search from all these people are kind of talking about it. 122 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: Gus. 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: The only like Virginia Tech last night was the yeah 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: that's a four gun conclusion. 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, well looks. 126 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: A lot it does outside like last night was the 127 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: first game that actually surprised me in the series because 128 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised Toronto came out and won Game one. 129 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: There was a layoff for the Dodgers, you know, the 130 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: bats got hot. I wasn't surprised that Yamamoto came back 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: in Game two and pitched the way he did. He's 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: been fantastic. Game three win eighteen innings, and I wasn't 133 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: surprised that Toronto responded in Game four. That game last night, 134 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: they didn't the Dodgers did not look good and just 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: didn't make mistakes. There was one pitch that you savaged 136 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: through that key Ky Hernandez hit out. Other than that, 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: he dominated them. And it's not just Look the Dodger 138 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: bullpen gets a lot of credit or a lot of criticism, 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of people look at the bullpen and 140 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: go that's been an issue, and it has been an 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: issue clearly, But Mookie Betts has been awful. He said 142 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: it after the game last night. They've got a lot 143 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: of guys who just aren't hitting right now. And oh Tani, 144 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, he didn't deliver last night in a lot 145 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: of spots and a lot of opportunities. So I just 146 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: I looked at last night's game and I go, that 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: was the one that kind of surprised me because I 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: didn't expect for them to have the quote unquote hangover 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: effect another game after whatever happened a couple of nights ago, 150 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it felt like. 151 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: I might be traumatized. Maybe that's why I'm siding on 152 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: the side of the whole emotional deal. Let me ask 153 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: you guys this Toronto, if they were to win the 154 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: World Series, what type of impact does that have on 155 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: the MLB? Is it a positive impact? Is it a 156 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: negative impact? Is it indifferent? Is it? 157 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: Like? 158 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: What is it? 159 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: I think it's a thought. 160 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 5: Well, first off, like I would say this, like again, 161 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: the David and Goliath thought probably comes from payroll, Like 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: we tend to look at the teams to spend the 163 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: most money and say those are the teams that are 164 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: going to win. 165 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 4: A World Series. 166 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, it kind of stands in the way of 167 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 5: that argument or that discussion point well. 168 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: And like the other part of that David and Goliath 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: payroll aspect is there's like, oh man, you know the 170 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: it's like the Blue Jays are just piecing this whole 171 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: thing together with some gum and some duct tape. Dude, 172 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Vlad Grerow just got five hundred million dollars. It's not 173 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: like they're not shelling out a little bit of cash. 174 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: They've made deals at the deadline. They've got Bobashett who's 175 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: looking to get paid in the offseason, and whether or 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: not they're going to want to keep him around or 177 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: not that remains to be seen. But yeah, it's not 178 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: It's not like this team is devoid of talent like 179 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: they as you pointed, out they won more games in them. 180 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: So what it does to baseball, I think Baseball's and 181 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: kind of this holding pattern because there's more than likely 182 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: and I've talked to anybody in the know, it's about 183 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent sure there's going to be a work 184 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: stoppage after next year that you know, they want the 185 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: salary cap, the players don't want that, and so there's 186 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: a lot of teams who are kind of like, eh, 187 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: not really sure how we should go about this. The 188 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: Dodgers kind of got ahead of this whole thing and 189 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: have gotten their World Series last year and have been 190 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: on this run, and I think there's teams around baseball 191 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: that are just kind of operating with the understanding that 192 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: we're not really sure. So it's almost like, can you 193 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: get in your World Series in the structure that Major 194 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: League Baseball is in currently before everything might change here 195 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of years, and so I just I 196 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: don't know that long term you can look at it 197 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: and say what does this do for baseball? Because I 198 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: don't know that anybody has answers after this upcoming year 199 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: because there's going to be a stoppage. So that's another 200 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: part of the storyline that isn't. 201 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: So saying get locked out, which which would make sense. 202 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 5: I feel like this deal has been much better for 203 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: the players than the owners. The problem is, you know, 204 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: how much leverage do the owners have in those negotiations 205 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 5: to put in a salary cap. 206 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: I mean, this is and. 207 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 5: I understand there's a lot who feel like the spending 208 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 5: is out of control. I mean, when you see some 209 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 5: of these baseball numbers, it just everything else pales in comparison. 210 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: I mean even some of the NBA money, which is ridiculous. 211 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: And they've got a soft cap. But I do feel like, 212 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: you know, there there should be some sort of system 213 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: put in place, and if they do put in a 214 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: hard cap, it would be really interesting to see, like 215 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 5: if there's not more stories I want to say necessarily Toronto, 216 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: but more organizations that could be competitive with spending less, 217 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 5: which is obviously not what the players want. You know, 218 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 5: they don't want to have a cap put on what 219 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: they're potentially able to make and allow some of these 220 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 5: big budgeted teams to not go out there and just 221 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 5: buy them up. 222 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 4: But I do think during the. 223 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 5: Course of the regular season, I do think if you're 224 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 5: talking about like playoffs and figure out who's gonna win 225 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: it all. It does play into other teams having to 226 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 5: be a little more nimble and having to be able to, 227 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: you know, do more with less. 228 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: And that's what they call a moneyball. 229 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 5: Call whatever you want, because we've seen those success stories, 230 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: but that's ultimately what it gets to, and maybe it 231 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: leads to more parody within the league. 232 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: I would think at least. 233 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: I mean, a team hasn't won back to back World 234 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: Series in twenty five years. It's not as if the 235 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Dodgers are just running rough shot and winning every single 236 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: World Series like that. They've run into issues like there's 237 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: if you were to ask a Dodger fan, they would say, yeah, 238 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: we'd expect they would have won more by now. So 239 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: I just I know that people like to paint them 240 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: out to be well, it's the Yankees from back in 241 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: the day, but it's not because the Yankees actually were 242 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: winning a bunch of World Series and the Dodgers have 243 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: found themselves in difficult spots in the postseason, have come 244 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: up short several times over the past several years. 245 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 5: I think the hard thing is and by the way, 246 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 5: like it's not like the Blue Jays don't spend like 247 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 5: I think that's one of the misnomer about you know, 248 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: this whole situation, like, are they spending as much as 249 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: the Dodgers? 250 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 4: No, like that. 251 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 5: The total team payrolls like three hundred and fifty million 252 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 5: or something like that this year, and obviously the Mets 253 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: have paid a lot. You know, Philly's up there, the 254 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 5: Yankees are up there. And then you start getting down to, 255 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: you know, the depths of someone like the Blue Jays 256 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: fifty million. Oh, the Pirates on, let me scroll all 257 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 5: the eighty four million. 258 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: I'm more of an eighty four minutes guy, but damn 259 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: childhood Pirates, but more of an's guy. 260 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: Well, don't worry. 261 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 5: Only they're only spending one hundred and nine so but 262 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 5: don't worry, guys. No one's worse than the Miami Marlins, 263 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: who've spent a little over almost sixty eight million. 264 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 4: That's their total team payroll. 265 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Their team payroll was sixty eight million, a little under that. 266 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, all right. 267 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Good for the Marlins, good for them. 268 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: But but what you kind of notice is, for the 269 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 5: most part, there's a direct correlation. I mean, outside out 270 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 5: of Milwaukee, Milwaukee's only one hundred and twenty one, you know, 271 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 5: and that's a team that obviously made it really far 272 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: Cleveland one hundred million. You know, that's a team that 273 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 5: also made it decently, decently far. I was just exceed 274 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 5: the expectations. So that's that's part of the issue. Is 275 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: when you don't have a cap, there tends to be 276 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 5: more of a correlation between what you're spending what you're 277 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 5: getting out of it. With some exceptions, but more often 278 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: than not that's the case. So if that change happens 279 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: that you're talking about, it would it'd be interesting to 280 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: see how baseball would adjust. You know, the trade deadline 281 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: would probably look a lot different too. But it'd be fun, 282 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 5: I know that much. Just not as much fun for 283 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: the players. 284 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: Because that union is I would say, if you're an 285 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: NFL player, you would look at that union and go, 286 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: why can't we get that? 287 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: You should be consulting with them. Yeah, it doesn't make 288 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 4: any sense. 289 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: You guys know touch out. 290 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 6: Do it. 291 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 3: But you know, I gave what I had. 292 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: That's what you had. 293 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: Again, ahead, I mean the World Series I gave back, 294 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 3: but that's what I had. I don't know all this 295 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: other stuff, y'all right now, Like I'm sure some people 296 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 3: find gave us an inning that's it. I was just 297 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: looking at y'alls. 298 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Well, I just but it is kind of interesting that 299 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: the the MLB players Union is sort of the strongest 300 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: and the one that you want to be and meanwhile 301 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL you got a guy going to strip clubs. 302 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Like it's just it's kind of interesting that that now 303 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: you see sort of the end result of all that. 304 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, probably after next year, maybe some things will change. 305 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: It is two pros and a cup of Joe here 306 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar is it and Brady Quinn, 307 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox with you here. 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By the way, we get in 343 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: the three hours of Hatloween music tomorrow like nothing but spooky? 344 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 6: How you. 345 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Because this song stinks. 346 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: It's been hot outside. It was actually not a bad song. 347 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: This is a great Who is this? 348 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: I don't know who sings it, but I like the song. 349 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: I want to say it's childish Gambino, but I don't 350 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: think it is. 351 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: Wait, is that the actor? 352 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 353 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: He does that, he does everything. 354 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's his real name or acting name for 355 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, Donald Glover. 356 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: There you go, Yeah, there you go. 357 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: That's what I was looking for. 358 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: She's looking for birt. She pulled that right out of 359 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: your back pocket. 360 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: Just and yes, this is his song. Mm h because 361 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: Bursch has re enacted some of his music videos. 362 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is America. 363 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: Huh yeah, exactly, That's exactly what it would work if 364 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: if I do it. Yes, I might dad laughing if 365 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: I ever saw something like that, literally pass away laughing. Yeah, 366 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: it's a pretty good song. 367 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: By the way, I looked up his picture, it didn't 368 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: look like a gambino. 369 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: Dang up tops supposed to mean up top childish. 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Micah Parsons has a 393 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Charger annual salary among non quarterbacks by a million and 394 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: a half a year. Big win for us. 395 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: Talk at that bar. 396 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, all right, good for you guys. 397 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: Take that Trayvon Walker going number one over him? 398 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, my ass and all seriousness though, did he's been 399 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: through I don't know, do you guys remember his story 400 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 5: and msgging a little bit when he kind of came 401 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 5: to prominence at Michigan his final year, Like, he's been 402 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 5: through a lot of injuries. You know, it's it's not 403 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 5: a surprise he's been able to come back from it 404 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: because he did that during his time in college. 405 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: But what six sacs so far through seven games. 406 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 5: You got to feel happy for him, you know, like 407 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 5: he's just he never allows the adversity to impact him. 408 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 4: And he's been able to be the player that the 409 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 4: Lions were. 410 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: Hoping he would be and that you could tell to 411 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 5: just he's the motor, he's got the type of leader 412 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 5: he is. All those things they kind of add up 413 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 5: and this is this is the type of guy through 414 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 5: an organization. You know, you want to pay because he's 415 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: going to be a good guy in the locker room, 416 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 5: he's going to be a good leader and even probably 417 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: through the ups and downs. So happy for him, happy 418 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 5: for the team too. You know, this is typically spots 419 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 5: where Detroit's had you know, different draft picks and it 420 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 5: hasn't worked out, and this, obviously, this has worked out 421 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: the way they'd hoped. 422 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: It's interesting that the timing of it, the placement of it, 423 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: it doesn't come with any pre drama to it getting done. No, 424 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: is he going to make it into camp? Is it 425 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: is it going to hinder what, you know, what the 426 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: relationship is? Is it like it just boom, here's a 427 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: contract And and to me, I think that's more the 428 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: bigger story is like how do you find a way 429 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: to harmoniously be able to execute major contracts in moments 430 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 3: leading up to and it being executed like this? Like 431 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: it should. There should be a guide on doing contracts 432 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: without the drama. Drama free. And I think that that's 433 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: the coolest thing about it, because you didn't villainize villainize 434 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson. As you mentioned, he is a pillar in 435 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 3: the community. He's he's established a voice there obviously playing 436 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: college ball not too far away from the you know, 437 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: the place. Now that he's doing on pro level, it 438 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: just seems like this is the way you go about 439 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 3: doing it, Like it's like, Okay, it's going to be 440 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 3: a conversation. It's going to be he got a big contract. 441 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 3: But what it's not going to be is is this 442 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: negotiation of distraction is Aiden Hutchinson and his agent leaking 443 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 3: out information that they may want to seek a trade 444 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: or drama. You know, zero drama, bro, And now you 445 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: as a team, you're able to benefit from him continuing 446 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: to be the star that he is without people being 447 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: upset one way or the other. Did he win on 448 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: the contract negotiation? Did the team win? Did he lose? 449 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: Did the team lose? You gotta pick sides, Like, no, 450 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 3: it's just you got a contract done. He's happy, he 451 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: has gone through some injuries, he is productive, he is 452 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 3: a leader, he's a pillar for this team. They rewarded him, 453 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 3: Like I don't understand why it's so difficult, Like if 454 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: you're going to do a contract with a guy, then 455 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 3: due to contract. If you're not going to do the 456 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 3: contract with the guy, then don't do the contract with 457 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 3: the guy. I just think that it gets so like 458 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 3: we turned these these contract situations into such messy moments 459 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: and and for me, I just feel like this was 460 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: a win. 461 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 5: Is that on the player, the organization, the agent, like 462 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 5: who do you because they're obviously like was there there's 463 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 5: some drama. 464 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who this offseason. I mean, Micah 465 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: Parsons was biggest one. What Trey Hendrick said was was 466 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: a part of these types of conversations the TJ. Watt 467 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 3: conversation heat it up at some point. What they got 468 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: deals done, they did, but there were conversations about it 469 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: get traded away. Yeah, but the conversations were were there. 470 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: The conversations were there. That's all I'm saying. And no, 471 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 3: I'm just talking about a specific skill group. That's That's 472 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, and and and and it's not limited. 473 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: It certainly isn't limited. That was just what it was 474 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: this offseason. And it's a comparable because this is a 475 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: defensive end that got a big contract. So that's all 476 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But I don't listen. The major part of 477 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: it has to be on the organization because they're the 478 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: ones that are ultimately making the decision. They're the ones 479 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: that are cutting the check. It's ultimately on them to 480 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: try to handle things in a way where they keep 481 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: their reputation in play in good standing, and they try 482 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: to keep the player's reputation in good standing. Whether it 483 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: works out or not, it doesn't have to turn into 484 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: this like ugly nasty situation. Either you want to do 485 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: the contract and you want to keep the guy happy, 486 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: or you don't. That's I think that this is one 487 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: of those moments where I think the hats off to 488 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 3: Detroit as an organization for doing it this way where 489 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: it didn't turn into anything. 490 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: Kind of an incredible turnaround for them too, because they 491 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: were at the laughing stock of the league. They were 492 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: one of those teams that you paired up with the 493 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: Jets and be like, oh, it's the same old lion, 494 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: it's the lie Downs. Don't put them on Thanksgiving any more. 495 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: Of that organization is a disaster. And if you look 496 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: at what they've done in the draft over the past 497 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: few years, outside of maybe Philly, it's hard to find 498 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: anybody who's drafted better than Detroit has. And Aiden Hutchinson's 499 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: another guy who was a drafted player. And you could 500 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: go all the way back to TJ. Hawkinson, you could 501 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: go to Frank rag Now, you could go to DeAndre Swift, 502 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: Amen Ross Saint Brown was in the Pina Seol Draft. 503 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: He was taken in the fourth round. And if you 504 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: just go through year by year, they've drafted somebody that's 505 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: either made a Pro Bowl or somebody that's gotten paid already. 506 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: And that was an organization that was the laughing stock 507 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: of the league, like that was your second bye week 508 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: every single year. And yet here they are, they trade 509 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: for Jared Goff and they're they're paying another one of 510 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: their own. Kind of turn into a model franchise all 511 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden in the past few years. Brad Holmes 512 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit. Probably doesn't get as much 513 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: as he as he deserves from that standpoint, but kind 514 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: of incredible when you think about where they were not 515 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: long ago and where they are now. So yeah, good 516 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: for that. 517 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 5: And the crazy part is you see how it impacts 518 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 5: other owners, other organizations in the NFL, where now people 519 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 5: see what they've built and they want a piece of it. 520 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 5: Right Like if you look at the New York Jets, 521 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 5: they look at themselves probably similarly to where Detroit was 522 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 5: before Dan Campbell got there and Brad Holmes and everyone 523 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 5: else and built this. 524 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: Thing up, and they're trying to get a piece. Now 525 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: with Aaron Glenn. 526 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: The issue is, I don't know the Woody Johnson's gonna 527 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 5: be patient enough to allow Aaron Glenn to mirror what 528 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 5: they did in Detroit. And that's the hardest part. The 529 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 5: hardest part is being able to lose and stay the 530 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 5: course like this is this applies to anything in life. 531 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 4: Like think about even if you're trying to lose weight. 532 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: Right, you start working out and usually most people they 533 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 5: see that initial pop after the first month. It's they're like, man, 534 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: I feel good, I'm losing weight all stuff. Then what 535 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 5: happens They hit a plateau. They get to a point 536 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 5: where like now losing some of those pounds now, you know, 537 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: making those additional gains or changes. They become a bit 538 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 5: harder and it's like whether or not they're able to 539 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 5: like stick through that period of time. I mean, and again, 540 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 5: this could be applied to anything like that's always the 541 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: hardest part. It's it's easy to sit there and say, hey, 542 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: we got Aaron glennon here, we're winning. This is exactly 543 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 5: how it works, and it's like, no, it's not. 544 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: They lost. 545 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 5: When Dan Campbell first got there, you know, the ownership 546 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 5: group had to kind of stick through that and see 547 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 5: through that to deliver that plan. And Chris Pielman, who's 548 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: been a part of that group, I'm sure played a 549 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: role and trying to make sure he tempered the expectations 550 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 5: and tempered everyone else and say, look, we're building this 551 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 5: the right way from the inside out, you know, which 552 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 5: is always overlooked by the way that roster was always 553 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 5: built in the trenches, O line, D line and then 554 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: out before they worried about all the other stuff. And 555 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 5: then they hit on a quarterback who kind of had 556 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 5: something to prove and had that kind of tough mindset 557 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 5: and Jared Goff dad is Jack and you know, they 558 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: kept moving on from there. So like I look at 559 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 5: this and I just say it's an example to all 560 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: those other organizations as to how you should do it. 561 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: The problem is is like the owner is just not 562 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 5: many people and again it depends on how they made 563 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 5: their money, but not many are used to dealing with 564 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 5: a lot of the backlash, a lot of the things 565 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 5: that come with getting to the to the point of 566 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: it where the Detroit Lions are so good luck. I mean, 567 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: keep poaching different coaches, but if you're that ownership group, 568 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 5: you better be able to stand time. You better be 569 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 5: able to say, Okay, let's give this some time. Let's 570 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 5: give the Bears some time as they try to figure out, 571 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 5: you know what they are into, Ben Johnson, But I 572 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 5: don't know. 573 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean again, the. 574 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 5: Track record history, it hasn't been great for Chicago and 575 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 5: New York. If they're trying to mimic what Detroit's doing, 576 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 5: has it typically work out the way they hope? 577 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: Detroit's first twenty six games with Dan Campbell they were four, 578 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: nineteen and one. How many other organizations would have been 579 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: like that's it, like you gotta go at that. Yeah, 580 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: we're done from that. 581 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 4: He's talking about biting kneecaps and press conferences. 582 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 3: I just count down with this gate like he came 583 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: in out the gate like we're gonna get knocked down, 584 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: bloody my face, like what come on? Bruh, chewing his gum, 585 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 3: Like what are you talking about? Dad? But don't get hey, 586 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: don't cats in that locker room they believe and listen, 587 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: you got again. We talked about this at length all 588 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: the time. If you allow a guy who truly cares, 589 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: because I believe. To me, this is my my opinion. 590 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: I believe in today's sports scene, today's athlete, you got 591 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: to you gotta care about them, and it has to 592 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: be genuine care, Like it just has to be. If 593 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: you don't have a genuine fondness for the guys that 594 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: you're coaching and it's just you coaching, they don't react 595 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: the same like these these guys, this generation of guys, 596 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: they shut down if they don't feel the communication and 597 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: the care and the love coming towards them from their staff. 598 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 3: Like it's different. So if you don't allow for a 599 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: coach to genuinely live in who they are and they 600 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 3: have to like subscribe to what this whatever it is 601 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: is that the organization has created for you as a coach, 602 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: it's gonna be difficult for you to be able to 603 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: create an environment where who you are as a person 604 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 3: those things that Dan Campbell said, he's actually able to 605 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: walk his talk. A lot of people can't. They're they're 606 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: not able, they don't have the they don't have the autonomy, 607 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 3: they don't have the freedom to run it the way 608 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 3: that they want to run it. Would he have worked 609 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: in a previous era, Yeah, he would have, because he 610 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 3: has the type of mentality and the acumen and the 611 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: relationships people respect him. I think it would have worked 612 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: like Dan Campbell would have been Like Dan Campbell actually 613 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: has an old school mentality, but his ability to be 614 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 3: able to connect with his athletes is very current. It 615 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: is very current because some of these old school coaches, 616 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: they're disconnected to the idea of what they represent to 617 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: the player. Now they will say they don't, but the 618 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 3: way some of these guys are, and there's still some 619 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: of them around, there's still some guys. Like if you 620 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 3: hear how they talk to players, it's not that's not 621 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 3: going to work in twenty twenty five, like dog cussing 622 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: out a dude, like you mother effort, you stupid mother effort. 623 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 3: This isn't an age getting fun like that's not. Like, guys, 624 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: don't we live in a cringe generation, Like the cringe 625 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: general ration is real. They don't respond well to stuff 626 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: like that. So so just like players have evolved, coaches 627 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: have to evolve with how they cringe generation exactly. It's 628 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: so cringe it like everything everything like bothers you like, 629 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 3: everything is like like it's weird softly I mean listen, 630 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: I mean I mean. 631 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 4: How how else would you define that? 632 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it's soft because the I mean, my daughters 633 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: put me up on game on it right, like like 634 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: everything you do, Like if I like, I'll grab my 635 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: daughter like I'm I'm a big touchy pheelly. I'm a 636 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: big touchy phelly dad. And and my daughter's like like, 637 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: don't touch my shoulder, dad, Like and then y'all hear 638 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: I hear the cringe, cringe cringe, like like come on, 639 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: like I love you like to that point. Man, Oh 640 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: you'll get there, You'll get there. 641 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: It make me so sad. 642 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna get there. 643 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 4: Hug every day. 644 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 3: They love the hugs, they love the attention, but just 645 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: everything get prigd. 646 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: When does it stop? 647 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 3: It doesn't, that's the that's the problem. 648 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: Like when when do you notice, like they take a 649 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: turn towards please that's enough. Yeah, what age? 650 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: I would probably say, I mean, like, see, the thing 651 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: is with cute what he has on his side is 652 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: the one group. They're all like close in age, so 653 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 3: it'll all it just will all evolve at the same time. 654 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: And they're girls, so they'll be pretty advanced. What's going 655 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: to get interesting is when the boys start to get 656 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: older how that dynamic works out. Because my girls dominated man, 657 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: man up until like literally what a year ago, Like 658 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: he's eighteen now right, his older sisters nineteen, it's twenty 659 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: is eighteen. But they've like they dominated him so much 660 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 3: that he didn't even like communicating, Like he didn't have 661 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: to communicate, Like they'd be like, man, man wants eggs? 662 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: What no cheese? Like like they talked for him. They 663 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: oh yeah, like everything, like he just do you uhould 664 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 3: just put his thumb in his mouth. I was at 665 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: one point so concerned about what he stopped sucking on 666 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: his thumb, Like, dude, just be in the corner, like 667 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 3: what's man man? Man Man needs his diaper change? Dude 668 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: didn't even ask for his diaper to get changed. His 669 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: sisters be all over top of it, like man man's 670 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: mouths like man man went potty, you gotta change them? 671 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: Like and their babies like they're barely getting to the 672 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: point of where they're speaking, but they're speaking words to 673 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: take care of Anyways, I digress. The point I'm making 674 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 3: is is that this cringe generation, you have to be 675 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 3: able to handle them differently because, for what it's worth, 676 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 3: because they are way more advanced. They are way more advanced. 677 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: These kids. It's crazy they are way more advanced and 678 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: their thinking and their development than ever, more than ever 679 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: just based off of exposure, technology, different things like that. 680 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 3: They're just way more advanced. So you have to evolve. 681 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 3: And Dan Campbell, for what it's worth, he has an 682 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 3: old He's able to marry the two. He has an 683 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: old school approach. We're tough where you know, nose bleeders, 684 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 3: we're ankle biters, all those different things. But he's also 685 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: able to capture the imagination and the trust of the 686 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: guys that are in that locker room and most likely 687 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: even in the building, even with the ownership, all of 688 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: it all. It takes all of it aligning for you 689 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: to be able to build the type of culture that 690 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: could change a culture of dysfunction that has been a 691 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 3: part of what you've been doing for so long. 692 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: Man Man wants e. 693 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: No cheese. That's a true story, bro. They'd be sitting 694 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: like you know, we had a caretaker for them when 695 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: they were little, so it's like a twenty four hour 696 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 3: person like that was their person, and they'd be putting 697 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: in placing orders like I'm going tomorrow. Marley is the 698 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 3: main one. I have the avocado toats. Please no tomatoes. Okay, man, man, 699 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: I have eggs but no cheese. 700 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: I mean, did he ever ask for Louisiana hot sauce? 701 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes? I mean, I tell you why it would have 702 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 3: made it better, that's for certain. 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Good thing the guys are here to bring 735 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 6: you in case you missed. 736 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: It, and for that we turned it over to our 737 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: executive producer, Ryan Berschinger to find out what the hell's 738 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 1: going on. Bursh oh, good morning, guys. 739 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 8: Well as we know Carson Wentz is now out for 740 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 8: the season. He's having a season injury ending surgery. He 741 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 8: spoke to the media yesterday and pushed back on the 742 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 8: notion that the Vikings forced him to play through injury. 743 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: Oh what his injury. 744 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 9: This isn't my first rodeo. I'm not an idiot. I 745 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 9: know what I was signing up for going out there. 746 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 9: Nobody was forcing me, pressuring me any of those things. 747 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 9: Anybody in this building. Everybody's handled this tremendously. Communication has 748 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 9: been phenomenal from coaches, trainers, all the things, and so 749 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 9: knew what we were doing all along. 750 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound like what you said, Bursch. It sounds 751 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: like he was like we had supportive Yeah, he's pushing 752 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: back on it. What do you mean, well, because there's 753 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: some people with He looked like he was like he 754 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 3: was going to cry, right like I'm going to cry 755 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 3: about this, Like this hurts so bad, I'm going to cry. 756 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: Like it looked like he had a robotic arm. 757 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: And there's some people thought, you know, if he's that 758 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: banged up, why wouldn't you have just put somebody else in? 759 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 3: And oh, so it was claims that he was put 760 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: in against his will, not he said it, no, okay, 761 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 3: got push, Okay, I heard that idea, Okay, I got 762 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 3: you all right? Makes for I mean, why wouldn't you 763 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: have wanted to go back in? This is like maybe 764 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: his last shot to really get a chance. That's probably 765 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 3: paying that all on his face. Dang, this hurts like hell, 766 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 3: and I know it hurts. And if I if I 767 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: tell these people how hurt I am and I gotta 768 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 3: come out, this could be it Like people don't understand 769 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 3: the mental yeah go ahead. Is that people don't understand 770 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: that part of it. 771 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 5: Man, Well, I think there's also the position he's in 772 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 5: that that people can understand in regards to the desperation 773 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 5: to what Jonas is saying, like this is your last shot. 774 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 5: But the tough part is is like there's not too 775 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 5: many players who at seventy percent or in that much 776 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 5: pain are gonna go out there and play their best football. 777 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,760 Speaker 5: And unfortunately, like this this point of season, everyone's playing 778 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 5: banged up. It's just a varying degrees. It's very seldom 779 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 5: you see someone who's like, yeah, I feel great. It's 780 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 5: like no, no one feels great, and so everyone's. 781 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 4: Dealing with something. 782 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 5: But there's some guys who are so much more talented 783 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 5: that they can be at that eighty percent and they're 784 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 5: still better than most. So it's just it's a really 785 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 5: really tough spot for him to be in. But unfortunately, man, yeah, 786 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 5: it's uh it probably JJ McCarthy time. 787 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: Finally, did you guys ever play at one hundred percent? I? 788 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 3: No, I can't. At the beginning of the season, I 789 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 3: can't recall playing at one hundred percent honestly, Like, hey, 790 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: you feel good, you feel good, but you got to 791 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 3: you got to keep maintenance and maintenance in yourself. Like 792 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 3: it's just I can maybe think back to you Fleek, 793 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 3: maybe not even then, not even in high school, because 794 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 3: I played every position. Like you know, you're not going 795 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 3: to fit. You have to understand that your one hundred 796 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: is never going to be a hundred. Like that's that's 797 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: you get your mind right, that's all. Get your mind right. 798 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 4: That's why it doesn't really work for this cringe era. 799 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't really work for cringe guys trying to save 800 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 3: his football life and he's got a shoulder hanging off 801 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 3: his body like bright, it's a lot like imagine what 802 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 3: it was like, you know what that was like? 803 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 4: That was like when you dislocated your kneecap. 804 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, the differences though, stayed in it got back up, 805 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: pop back in hit the show. 806 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 3: How much did you process in that moment when you 807 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 3: blew your knee out that way? Like did you probably 808 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 3: just dislocated the kneecap? He didn't blow anything out, Okay, 809 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 3: I was trying to make it more no, keep going 810 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: bar Yeah, I was trying to make it a bug 811 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 3: when you blew that thing all the way out? Like 812 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: what were the first things you thought about? Like does 813 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: your life flash in front of you? Like? How am 814 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: I going to get to work or walk into work? 815 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 3: How am I going to keep doing what it is 816 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 3: that I'm doing? Like do I put, you know, one 817 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 3: leg into the rat suit one way? Like do you 818 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 3: start with the opposite leg? Do you start with the 819 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 3: hurt leg? Like what what you do? Like? Then you 820 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: came up with the conclusion, well, I mean that was 821 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 3: way past the chucky geese days? Oh was it? Because 822 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 3: if you went to a veterinary spot to get fixed, yeah, 823 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 3: you were still a rat well. 824 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: And they put the like I think the wrong uh 825 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 1: straight like all that stuff. Yeah, I didn't didn't work well, 826 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, listen you know they popped it back in 827 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: and hit the shot, so I can't relate to Carson 828 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 1: Wentz's place. 829 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 3: I just took the pain. You went and saw a 830 00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 3: vet animal. Doctor got right, kept going. That's Jonas knocks 831 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 3: the vampire