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Speaker 1: To The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast. I listen because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. Hey, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of The Black Guy Who Tills Podcast. I'm your host Rod,

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Speaker 2: Karen, and we are live.

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Speaker 1: On a Wednesday, which is becoming quickly everybody's favorite day

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Speaker 1: It means we're gonna review love Craft Country. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: everyone seems to be loving it, well, all the blacks.

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Speaker 2: When we talk about being one of the shows that's funded.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, cool, So let's go ahead and get

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Speaker 1: into it. Love Craft Country Episode five, Strange Case, written

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Speaker 1: Kid and Sonya went and ornamenting did the story.

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Speaker 1: All right. So yeah, Karen started out, we always do

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Speaker 1: We're in the room when we last saw Montross slash

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Speaker 3: That wouldn't that beaten, wouldn't just about that particular situation, right, And.

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Speaker 1: the But but you know, this is also a man

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Speaker 1: lot of people who are rage addicts or violent have violent,

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Speaker 2: So then he beats. He is Manchos gets a ship

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Speaker 3: And that's the real thing I've taught to other people,

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Speaker 2: Okay, come on, she got the power she was riding Dick.

439
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: Before riding Dick was even cool.

440
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: Okay, and this is only like the second time she

441
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: been fucking. She really was like, listen, I've learned, I've

442
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: read the instructions okay, Wikipedia, how to fuck, and I

443
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: got your girl does it? I mean my second time

444
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: was just as you know, just as awkward as my first.

445
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: Hers is.

446
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm already throwing this thing on them. So

447
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: and what a lot of people don't know. You know,

448
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: a lot of people say they tune into us for

449
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: the historical side of the podcast. They like that, I'll

450
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: use my book learning to add context. Well, this is

451
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: a new, little known fact. A lot of people don't

452
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: know that the large sized T shirt was not evented

453
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: til nineteen sixty, which is why Tick is always wearing mediums.

454
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: This medium was the largest you could go back in.

455
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: The day, nipples cutting through it.

456
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: That was all that was. That's all that was available

457
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: to the black man.

458
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: Okay, the white man had large black man stopped this

459
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: medium right there. We are not giving you all that cotton, boy,

460
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: even if you picked it, you're gonna have no arms.

461
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: Then we get Montress who goes to a hotel and

462
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: of course his faces beat the ship like because that's

463
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: the other thing. Montress didn't even attempt to fight Tick

464
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: back now, when Tik talked about leaving and how he

465
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: like left when he left for the when he came

466
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: back from the army, got interview by the reporter, his

467
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: father in front of him about the ship, like you

468
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: signed up in the white Man's army, and then Tick

469
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: basically got in a fight.

470
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: With his father and left. So that sounded like a fight.

471
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably he was probably one to pust the

472
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: holes in the walls.

473
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: I honestly believe Montress knew he was wrong, knew what

474
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: was coming. And Montress speaks violent because that's what he

475
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: learned as a kid, and that's what he gave his

476
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: own son. He knew that he was gonna get beat

477
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: up and never even like he just understood this was

478
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: the punishment and that's it, and he took the.

479
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: Fight like he just he just let him beat him up.

480
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: So because he knows that tickets kind of in the prime.

481
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: So he's like the funck I looked like fucking with

482
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: somebody that can bitch.

483
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: Press a car no, thank you?

484
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, I mean I think old man strength is real,

485
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: though it is so you never understated old man. I

486
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: think if man Tross would have fought him back, it

487
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: would have been better than I mean, obviously, what happened

488
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 1: to him.

489
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: I mean, that was just a I don't think he

490
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: had to fight in him like he was here. I think, yeah,

491
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: like you said, he just knew he was wrong and

492
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: there was nothing he could say to justify it, because

493
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: I think if he felt like there was some form

494
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: of justification, I think he'd fall back.

495
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: Well. I think the justification for him is that he's

496
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: already told them I'm saving y'all. He feels justified and vindicated,

497
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: righteous in this choice. But I think it goes to

498
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: something that I'm gonna try to remember to bring up

499
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: later about it. I think he also just felt bad

500
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: that he did that shit, regardless of regardless of whether

501
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: or not he thinks he saved his family's life, he

502
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: knows what he did was extremely wrong. So Montrose goes

503
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: to a hotel where Sammy answers the door. Also in

504
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: the s Medium, because the white man would not let

505
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: black men have largers at the time, and so he asked,

506
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: who beats you up this time? The old fays or

507
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: the color or the niggas or whatever, which kind of

508
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: hits at that intersection of, you know, the hate crimes

509
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: that black gay men experiences back in that time, which is,

510
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 1: you know you people were beating them up, whether it

511
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: be and you could catch it from either side, a

512
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: racist person or another black person who go you gay,

513
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, and so they have they also have sex.

514
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: But this is not that that.

515
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: Letty and.

516
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 2: Take sex. No, it was not. This wasn't I was

517
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: not ready. This wasn't like sexy sex okay.

518
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: This was like like fucking the demons out sex okay,

519
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: where it was just like I just got my ass

520
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: up by my son and I just need to feel

521
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: like a human. I need to feel something again. This

522
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: was Holly Bury and Monster's Ball sex.

523
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: You knowe what I'm saying.

524
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: It's a completely different type of sex. It wasn't like

525
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: and that's not because it's like, oh it's gay sex. No, no, no, no,

526
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: I watched Poles. There's been you know, there's been that

527
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: sex between same sex people that definitely is more quote

528
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: unquote romantic.

529
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: This wasn't that.

530
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I've watched poured it was softer than this, like

531
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: like who this was?

532
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: This was definitely like, uh, you know, make me feel

533
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: something type sex, okay, and they have intense sex to

534
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Frank Ocean and man, Charles just basically fucked the oppression

535
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: out of Sammy. It was.

536
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: It was just I mean, look, if it's one thing

537
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: Michael K. Williams character gonna do hbo, he gonna keep

538
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: on with bad light skinned man.

539
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: Okay, he gonna if it's one thing, oh ma man

540
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: Trousse gave me a comment.

541
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 2: Okay, they got a tight.

542
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: So then back to the basement food photo studio of

543
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: the house. Tick is taking a post sex nap because

544
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Letty put it on them, and she's of course, uh

545
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: processing all the photos and stuff.

546
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: Still she's a working woman. She was like, look, I

547
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: just looked a sleep.

548
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: But I just feel like she did him like Aria

549
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: did Ginjury. She did well. She's like, yeah, I'm a version,

550
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: but I got some ideas, you know, let me throw

551
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: this thing on you. And then we cut back and

552
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Ginjury was just like sleep and she was like, well,

553
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: off the battle. That's how I Leddy was. She was like,

554
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: I gotta go process some more pictures. But you taking that, baby,

555
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: You've been stressed out. Okay, beating your daddy up took

556
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: a lot out of you. You need to lay down.

557
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: Ha ha.

558
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: So, but apparently he had been intensely studying the word

559
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: the pages from the pictures, trying to decipher them into

560
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: some language he could understand. And he has a dream

561
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: of the burning mansion that he escaped in episode two,

562
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: and his ancestor being ahead of him leading him out,

563
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: except this time he stops and he's wearing a suit,

564
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: this time, he's not no longer running around naked, And

565
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: this time his ancestor looks at him and he goes,

566
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: what And then he looks down and he catches on fire.

567
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: Yes, she was actually mouthing something to him, and he

568
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: couldn't actually hear what she was saying. I'm eventually gonna

569
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: find out what she said, but you know, she was

570
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 3: saying something.

571
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, And the way that they work with ancestry

572
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: magic and spells and shit. I just feel like that's

573
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: important somehow, Like that connection between him and that ancestor, Like,

574
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: you know, maybe she got magical something. I don't know,

575
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's gonna come back. So then

576
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: when you started away, Letty's like, you know, you're okay,

577
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, I just had a had a you know,

578
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: dream or whatever. She was like, well, I was just

579
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: letting you sleep because you look like you was tired

580
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: after I threw that thing on you. And he's like,

581
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to decipher the code, but I don't

582
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: really know what it means. And he goes over his

583
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: like way of trying to decipher it. He used his

584
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: initials which were inside the ring that why can't I

585
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: remember her name, kat Christina what that Christina Breith White

586
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: gave him? So he looks in there, he's like, these

587
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: are my initials. We know the word protection in this language.

588
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: So that's like eleven of the twenty six letters of

589
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: the alphabet, to which he That's what Leddy says, and

590
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: he's like, if they basically using the same alphabet, because

591
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, like if it's translated into English, right,

592
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: because it could be translated to another language, and he

593
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: thinks it could be similar to Chinese hieroglyphics, which, you know,

594
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: maybe something that he learned and when he went to war.

595
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: Something I don't know. I think it is because he

596
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: seems to know some Chinese or some symbolism or something.

597
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: And then Leeddy says, this is would have been easy

598
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: with Yohima's help, but Montross had to let her go.

599
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: But that was good because she deserved to be free

600
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: and we wouldn't be no better than Titus if we

601
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: kept her hair locked up in this house. And that's

602
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: when he realizes she has not put the other what

603
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: he put together, which is my father killed Yohima, like

604
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: like like you ain't like you ain't gonna find her

605
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: walking the street, that there's no return, like we we

606
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: can't find.

607
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: A where's Waldo? Yeah, she's not here, no more right.

608
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: And uh, Domingo, I'm not saying Chinese is the same

609
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: as Korean. The uh we're we're a very sophisticated podcast here.

610
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying he may have learned something about that in

611
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: the war. And they do seem like they're gonna try

612
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: to go back and look at that time here because

613
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: he didn't say this looks like Korean hired girlyphics.

614
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: So I'm like, where the fuck.

615
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: Will he learned Chinese hieroglyphics from to even be like

616
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: I recognize this I mean, don't seem like he learned

617
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: that in the colored library, Okay, just saying the books there,

618
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: so we'll see if maybe I don't, because we still

619
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: don't know what he did in the war.

620
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: Right mm hmmm, hmmm.

621
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what he could have been doing, Like

622
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if he was doing something with that book knowledge,

623
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: because he's so smart, Like, could he have been a

624
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: translator of some tight? Does he know other languages? I

625
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: know he speaks or not speaks. He understands the language

626
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: of Adam when he hears it, So I don't know.

627
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on with Tick. We'll see, we'll see.

628
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: But he did not say Korean hieroglyphics. He said Chinese,

629
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know, y'all, let me know. Maybe he was.

630
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: Maybe he also was ignorant and thanks Korean is Chinese?

631
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: But then but yeah, he basically says he burned the pages,

632
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: but he also got rid of for real, permanently Yohima.

633
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: And when Leddy realizes this, she basically is like like

634
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: this just honestly drives her to like a breakdown point

635
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: of almost being like why are we even fucking with

636
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: this shit?

637
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: We should also destroy it?

638
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: Then and he's like, but it's just a tool, because

639
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: she's like, no, it's evil. It's making you know, she

640
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: was doing that good black acting journeys won't last year.

641
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: Was like no, no, this is evil, gotta get rid

642
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: of it. And he's like, no, it's just a tool,

643
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: and we need to do it. We use it for

644
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: the right.

645
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: Thing, to protect ourselves. It's done destroyed.

646
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: She you see, you see the left of your daddy

647
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: is going through that for us not to fuck with it,

648
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: like it must be some shit behind this that we

649
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 3: are unaware of.

650
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Right. So after it's like her thing was like, this

651
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: ship is evil, it's the devil, Like she went back

652
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: to old school, like the Bible religion.

653
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Honey, she was about that.

654
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: She was about to toss that ship at the house

655
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: and say, in the name of Jesus, you got to

656
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: get out of my house.

657
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Right, So she was like, this is evil, just gotta go.

658
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: And he goes, no, we can use it to protect

659
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: our family. She and she goes, that's what your dad

660
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: think he doing. So he killed somebody, like he burned

661
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: the pain. Like your father's being destructive because he thinks

662
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: he's protecting somebody.

663
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: So then.

664
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: The she she basically is like dis corrupting zed blah

665
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: blah blah. Backstage at a drag show in the dressing room,

666
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: everyone is getting ready and talking that shit, and Sammy

667
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: is putting makeup over Montrosse's face and they're kind of

668
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: joking about how Montrosse is so quiet, like are you

669
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: dating a quiet man? You know?

670
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: And you can tell this is something they do frequently,

671
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 3: like that, like making them up and you know, covering

672
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: up the scars and shit, that's something you think they.

673
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: Did that frequently.

674
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he did say who was to beat you up?

675
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: This time? So like clearly they've been physically assaulted almost

676
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: it's just part of the risk of life, I guess, yes.

677
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: And you can tell that Montress has been around them

678
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: like like like that was his ritual, was to be

679
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: there and just kind of be made up and just

680
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: kind of cover the scars. And it may have been

681
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: in the past, at the he coup of discuss, he

682
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: may have left, but this time he just might have

683
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 3: decided to stay. Like like, we don't really know, but

684
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: you can tell that he wasn't new to the atmosphere

685
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 3: of the Queens.

686
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't look he didn't look uncomfortable being backstage

687
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: like that, and he looks as if he's part of

688
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: the community, even if he's not necessarily out. But then

689
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: at that time, not many people really had the privilege

690
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: of being able to be out un atmosphere like that,

691
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: right exactly, which is why the ballrooms spaces and stuff

692
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: became popular in the first place, or the underground ballrooms,

693
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: is because this is the one place you can be

694
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: free and you know, whether it's the drag queen experience

695
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: or whether it's just being trans, whether it's being openly

696
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 1: gay and loving somebody like you. There were no real

697
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: spaces for you to do that because at the time

698
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: being gay was also just illegal, yes, but it wasn't

699
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: just a black thing, a white thing. It was like,

700
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: you don't get to be gay, whether whoever you are,

701
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: this is illegal. You go to jail.

702
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: You can go to jail for being gay.

703
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: Period.

704
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: That's a lot of states had sight of me. Just yes, right,

705
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: just so they can lock you up.

706
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Right. So back but backstage, you know, they're basically talking ship.

707
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: But one of the things that comes out is like

708
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: they called Montruss the quiet Man, and it's like, you know.

709
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: Quiet man can tell you everything they need to tell

710
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: you with their.

711
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: Eyes and something else too, you know, like it was

712
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: all that, and Montrousse wasn't even like laughing or get

713
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: into it at all, Like he just was very required,

714
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: like reserved, like maybe like it just felt like he

715
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: wasn't out out and whatever gay was in his mind,

716
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily okay to be. And it made me

717
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: think about his the conversation you had with George, what

718
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: George says, you should have protected him more and why

719
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: don't you? Why don't you do art and all this

720
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: stuff anymore? And he talked about his father beating him

721
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: for drawing the art and posters for the Negro.

722
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Baseball teams that came to town.

723
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: And it made me think to myself, So what if

724
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: his father was beating them all those years for quote

725
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: unquote being soft? And you see what I'm saying, because

726
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: that sounds like the beatings he got were worse and

727
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: more targeted, and George did not get as many. And

728
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: I wonder if his father thought he could beat the

729
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: gay out of him, which is not that uncommon.

730
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: Some people still believe that bullshit.

731
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like what you're doing drawing, you know, because

732
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: that's quote unquote because.

733
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: That's some kids. Shit, that's not that's not and I

734
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: don't mean it's scared in a mean way, but that's

735
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: not quote unquote gay stuff to a lot of people

736
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: like your son drawing like welcome to town.

737
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Jackie Robinson.

738
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: Is not necessarily the fucking like, oh my god, this

739
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: fucking kid. But if there were other things in the

740
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: household and he was like he go, ye's off again,

741
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: that you.

742
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: Know, and we know that George didn't get it as bad.

743
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, It's like I'm starting to think

744
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: a lot of the complexity with Montross and the abuse

745
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: stuff is gonna be around his sexuality.

746
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: Yes, And also it just made me understand ticks perspective

747
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 3: of his parents, you know, of Montreals and his mama,

748
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: because you know, it's one of those things where they

749
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: probably did not get along because he may not even

750
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 3: be sexually attracted to her, or he may be bisexual.

751
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but it may be one

752
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: of those.

753
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: Things where who knows if his mother knew about this

754
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 3: or not, and that may have been the problem, you know,

755
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: like like like because you're like a gay man with

756
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: a woman and a child and The thing is, you

757
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 3: don't even know if this child is yours.

758
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: You are a HUNDI a s.

759
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he did know. I mean,

760
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm going with my theory I brought up last week,

761
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: which is I think he does know this out his son.

762
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously knows because George brought it up

763
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: before he died.

764
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he didn't want to talk about it.

765
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got mad at him for bringing it up. Basically,

766
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: like we don't talk about that. I wouldn't be I

767
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: don't know for sure the backstory, but I'm leaning towards

768
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: George was in love with who God her name starts

769
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: with a D, I believe, but he was in love

770
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: with her with.

771
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: With Take's mom got Door, Yes, got Door pregnant.

772
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: And it's kind of like less solved too problems with

773
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: one solution. You're gay, you can't live outer life anyway,

774
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: so out of family obligation, you take care of basically

775
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: my child and and and my and the woman I

776
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: should have, the woman I got pregnant, and then you know,

777
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: George has his other life. Now I'm leaning towards that.

778
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. Obviously, things that happened I

779
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: haven't read the book.

780
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: And that completely makes sense, like they had already was

781
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: under the your Greek agreement, like, hey, so.

782
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: You can stop getting your ass beat, go ahead and

783
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: marry this woman, you know, and you know, claim the

784
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: child as yours.

785
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm sure George, being at least from what

786
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: we've seen so far, somewhat of an honorable character, maybe

787
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: we'll see what circumstance could have possibly happened that they

788
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: would agree to this, you know what I'm saying, because

789
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I know they got ran out of Tulsa. It could

790
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: be a lot of shit. I don't know, you know

791
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not saying I haven't figured out

792
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: all the answers, because that's what the fuck they supposed

793
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: to do. Tell us the story. But there's some threads

794
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: that are making me lean towards like this was an

795
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: obligation for Montress that he carried out but still ended up,

796
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: you know, being violent towards his son. They clearly never

797
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: were gonna tell Tig so it's just, you know, it's

798
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: just gonna be interesting. And then this is his way

799
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: of protecting Tick, which is the promise he made to George,

800
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, which is so interesting considering that you know,

801
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: this may not be the first promise he's made the

802
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: George to basically take care of Tick.

803
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: At any rate, though, So they.

804
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: You know, they just they just have a good old

805
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: time back backstage in the dressing room, everybody getting ready

806
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: talking that shit. Uh. Sammy puts the makeup on over

807
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: Montrost's face. They talk about him being quiet. They they

808
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: it seems like the people in the room kind of

809
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if that if they're like saying,

810
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: we know y'all are fucking, but we know y'all aren't

811
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: together because publicly he has not claimed you, or if

812
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: they're like literally they like, we didn't even know y'all.

813
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: We don't even know that that y'all like fuck in

814
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: or any of this shit.

815
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: It's okay because they do bring.

816
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Up like, well, you know, y'all, y'all when y'all gonna

817
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: make it official, you haven't even so much as kissed

818
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: or whatever.

819
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, this is me.

820
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: This feels more like he has not claimed you publicly.

821
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: He's not embraced like yes I'm gay, Yes.

822
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

823
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: Sammy talks about his theme for the night, It's gonna

824
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: be based off of the uh this news report that

825
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: we see earlier in the story talk for Ruby story.

826
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: We'll get to that soon.

827
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: But about African locust, he calls it locustuf migratoria, the

828
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: migrating locust or something, and uh. There's then a full

829
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: drag show ballroom and Sammy walks around in full drag

830
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: with a sashow and it says second place, which I noticed.

831
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: I was like ill thought because at first I thought.

832
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, Sammy one, and it's gonna be uh, it's

833
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna be first place. It was like, oh, Semmy one second, Okay, I.

834
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: Was like who was first?

835
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: Right? Who?

836
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: Like I missed the show right?

837
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: Like, let's go back, like did they have their own

838
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: the Prey tail back then in Chicago? Like did they

839
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: have their own version? I feel like there's a lot

840
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: of culture we missed, yes in this episode. Yes, a

841
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: lot of houses we miss right, And then Samy walks

842
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: over to Montross, who's kind of leaning up against the

843
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: wall on some like you know the the you know,

844
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: kind of like the boys at the school dance when

845
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: you're in seventh grade and no one is asking anyone

846
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: to dance because they're all too shy, you know, and

847
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: except this is a room full of people who are

848
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, out or within the lifestyle, and he still

849
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: feels like, you know, and it's not just because he

850
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: got his face is beating up or it's something else,

851
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: like it felt like he does this every week, Like

852
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: he goes there and he stands and leans up against

853
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the pole and he just looks down at the ground

854
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: because this is his space in his community. But also

855
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: he's not fully comfortable being himself yet but tonight it's different.

856
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also dealing with the sexuality, dealing with Tick,

857
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 3: dealing with all the who knows what he's picked up, Uh,

858
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: with Christina and them.

859
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: It's a form of sadness.

860
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: It's like they're telling us a sad story, a lot

861
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: of impression, a lot of anger.

862
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's a sad, depressed man. I mean,

863
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: we know he drinks to the point of fucking like

864
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: talking to himself on a regular basis.

865
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: You know, Tick had to throw water on him to

866
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 2: wake him up, like, you know.

867
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 3: And that might been why he sounds like this drinking

868
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: has been a part of his life for years.

869
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know adds to the violence. Like I said,

870
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: maybe he's been depressed. You know, this is kind of

871
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: before people had all these words and shit fa this

872
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: definitely nobody was getting fucking therapy at this time, not

873
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: for no colored person of that stat like, you know,

874
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: you're not fucking WB the boys and shit. So at

875
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: any rate, this does turn into like this beautiful scene though,

876
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: because it's almost like he finally lets himself go and

877
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: be free to a certain extent. Sammy takes his hand,

878
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: they dance together, then he starts dancing other people and partying.

879
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: Except the music is modern music once again, so it's

880
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: not like like we see horns in the old school band,

881
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: but that's not the music we hear.

882
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: Like.

883
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: The music is very much like some It's Lonely World

884
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: by Moses Somny, so it's very new shit. And then

885
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: they literally lift him up in their arms, the queens

886
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: like carry him across the party at a dance floor

887
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: as glitter rains from the ceiling. And then when they

888
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: let him down, he's so.

889
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 2: Like kind of charged up. Markak K will be acting dog.

890
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: He kisses Sammy in public for what I assume is

891
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: the first time in that environment, especially because they don't

892
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: even kiss when they had sex right, m hm so

893
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: and then he cries like it was a very emotional scene.

894
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: Now this is what I thought after that scene though,

895
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: So if this is his community, how does he feel

896
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: about what he did to Yohima? You know what I mean?

897
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: Because that was an act of violence against somebody that

898
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: essentially would have a home in the community, Like there's

899
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: people like that in the community he's in, you know

900
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: what I mean.

901
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: So how does he reckon with what he did? Who knows?

902
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: And I think.

903
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: That, like my prediction is Yahima is not dead, so

904
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: you know, I think she's going.

905
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: To reappear at some period of time.

906
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: And I think that that's why he was like, I'm

907
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: sorry because.

908
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: He knew what he was doing so fucked.

909
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: Up because it's coming and this is beautiful moment of

910
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: like freedom and liberation and it's so well choreographed.

911
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: But then there's it.

912
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: To me, it's always this albatross hanging above. But what

913
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: you just did, you know what I mean? You took

914
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: away someone's life, you know. So I don't know, man,

915
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: It's just it's very interesting conflict, and I do hope

916
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: they develop it and don't drop that thread. I don't

917
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: want it to just be yeah, and Yohima died and

918
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: that was it. So I'm with you. I really do

919
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: hope and think that for the plot's sake, she's got

920
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: to be alive or come back somehow, because oh yeah,

921
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: because that is a way of her going out to

922
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: me is just so not good.

923
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as long as she's been around, I could

924
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: see something where, you know, her skin literally came back

925
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 3: on her body, so I could see her being having immortality.

926
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another other thing for me too, is that.

927
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: Sammy almost looks like Yohima dressed dressed in drag and

928
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: stuff like. So, I don't know, It's just it was

929
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: a lot, man, and the violence to day experience as

930
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: gay people at this time, and how common it was

931
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: and they, I mean, no one even asked him about

932
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: the fact he has a black eye. Nothing.

933
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 2: So it was just I don't know, man, God.

934
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: So then Letty is taking a bath reading the Bible,

935
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: trying to get this evil out of their system.

936
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: Tick comes in to see if she's okay.

937
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: She's like, I've been trying to find a prayer to

938
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: say for Yohima, and then she talks about her mom

939
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: taking her and Ruby the church when they were kids,

940
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: and that never made.

941
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: Her a true believer. She just learned how to play

942
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: the part.

943
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: And they talk about trying to find some good in

944
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: the world, and then Tick says he feels responsible for

945
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: bringing bad stuff into Letty's life, which is why he's

946
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: trying to bring some good into it too, which I think,

947
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: you know.

948
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: She's like, what do you know, what does that mean?

949
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, what do you what do

950
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: you mean? And she goes, last time I thought you

951
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: were going, we were going so where like a like

952
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: as a relationship, I found out you were trying to

953
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: move back to Florida because you know, basically when she

954
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: was like, you know, when I thought, you know, maybe

955
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: there was gonna be something there.

956
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: You know, that's the day I found out you.

957
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Was gonna kill Christina and then packed your ship and

958
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: just was gonna go to Florida and not even say

959
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: good bye to me. So like, what the fuck is

960
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: what are we okay? Is this?

961
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: And everybody goes through that in a relationship at some

962
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: period of time?

963
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: What are we?

964
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like it was you know, so I know the rules, right,

965
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: Like you're not just gonna be uh playing me or whatever?

966
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 3: So bestally, not a person like lady. She was like

967
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: little either, I'm here, I ain't right.

968
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: It was very much, yes, you should have been with me,

969
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 2: very much, would have been.

970
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Right by my side.

971
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 2: It was very much this energy.

972
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: Okay, it was very much Jay love should have brought

973
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: your ass home last night. And that's when he tells

974
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,240
Speaker 1: her about Jia, who is the Korean woman that we saw.

975
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: I believe Korean who that we.

976
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: Saw in his vision in the room. I believe it's

977
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: also the person he called on the phone when he

978
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: in episode one that told him he shouldn't have come home,

979
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: excuse me.

980
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: And so.

981
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: He basically says there was a girl he was with

982
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: in Korea, but it ended strangely and he doesn't know.

983
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: Because she's like, well, did you love her?

984
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: He goes, I don't know if it was love because

985
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: I never had good examples of it growing up. Handing

986
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: back to what you said about his parents, Montross, and

987
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: well what he could soon to be his parents his parents,

988
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: and he also says his parents' love was unknowable, which

989
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: is a hell of a fucking way to describe your parents' love,

990
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: like you know, and and it would make sense if

991
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: your father, you know, if your father was gay and

992
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: doing this out of obligation to you, but also violent

993
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: towards you. You know, I don't know if he was

994
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: violent towards her as well or not.

995
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: They haven't really said I don't think.

996
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it may have been something with all three

997
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 3: of them were in coots, like you know, mantrose mom

998
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 3: and George was like, hey, we're gonna settle for this,

999
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: and they actually didn't like each other because she was like, nigga.

1000
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 2: I don't love you and you don't love me. So yeah,

1001
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 2: so we ended up.

1002
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: With uh Letty then saying like my mom and Ruby

1003
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: basically fall in love too easy, like any man flashed

1004
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: them some attention. It's you know, like, okay, you the one,

1005
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 1: and she was like, it made me the opposite once again,

1006
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: children trying to be the opposite their parents. She was like,

1007
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be with any man unless it

1008
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: means something.

1009
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't waste my time.

1010
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: And we know that she was sexually a virgin until

1011
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: the third episode of the show.

1012
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: And Ticks the first man she ever even slept.

1013
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: With, and so, which tells you that you know, she

1014
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: felt it meant something. And he says, this is special

1015
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not all confused at all confused about that anymore.

1016
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: And then later back in the basement he's deciphering more pages.

1017
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: He had some type of break.

1018
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: Okay, And before you go on, I think that Montrose

1019
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 3: played a role in that. When they were talking and

1020
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 3: lady was huffing and puffing and going ahead of him

1021
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: because she was mad, and you know, manchos talking about

1022
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: no song for you woman and stuff like that. I

1023
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: really think that that made Tick think, like like think like,

1024
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: how what does this woman mean to me? How do

1025
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: I really feel about this woman? What is our connection?

1026
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: And you could.

1027
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 3: Tell that there was feelings there, But when you have

1028
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: an an unknowing, you don't know what the hell love

1029
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 3: looks like. You don't know how to property respond to it.

1030
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 3: You don't know how to react to it because you

1031
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: don't really truly know what it is.

1032
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also that thing too that I think she

1033
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: saw that ugly side of him and didn't.

1034
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: Completely reject him.

1035
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: So there's something there too, you know, like she saw

1036
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: who like what he's capable of, and his kind of

1037
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: is great as shame, you know, to a certain extent,

1038
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: and in a weird way, that's intimacy too. Now, it

1039
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: can be used obviously for wrong shit. There's people who

1040
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: are abusive that do that. That's one of the reasons

1041
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: people get in the cycles of abusiveness is because well,

1042
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: they're they're so real with me.

1043
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: That's showing me what they would never show anyone.

1044
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: But it's like, yeah, but the thing that's showing you

1045
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: is violence and uh and and trauma and shit. This

1046
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: is not you know, like but it is an intimacy

1047
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: to it, you know, and hopefully so far, what they've

1048
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: done with these characters, that's not something we're gonna have

1049
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: in the show.

1050
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, it just it made me think about about that,

1051
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 2: you know.

1052
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: At any rate. Later on, he's deciphering the pages down

1053
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: in the basement and he has an epiphany, runs to

1054
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: the phone, calls that long distance number again, operating yeah,

1055
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: carea please, and he uh, the phone answers, no one

1056
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: says anything. He just can tell someone picked it up.

1057
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: He says, how did you know? And the voice ways.

1058
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: Of beating says, you believe me? Now you should have

1059
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: listened to me.

1060
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: What are you?

1061
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: And he goes, he goes, what are you now? Who now?

1062
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 2: Who are now?

1063
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: Who are you?

1064
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: What?

1065
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: What are you?

1066
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: And then she hangs up or the thing hangs up.

1067
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1068
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: And then the pages he deciphers at the bottom.

1069
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: It says, die D I E. And this is the

1070
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: same voice and the same phone number of the person

1071
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: that told him you shouldn't have gone home before he

1072
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 1: hung up on them.

1073
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: Episode one. Mm hmmm, that's it for let it ticking

1074
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: and mantrosse.

1075
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that that's the woman in Korea, Jia.

1076
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: Yes, so you think g is still alive? Mm hmm. Yeah,

1077
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, because he talks about Jia like like

1078
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 1: she died or something. I don't know what the fuck

1079
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: is happened, but yeah, it's I mean, I but with

1080
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: him saying what are you like now, I'm like, it's

1081
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: something taking.

1082
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: Her place, some controlling her. Is she some type of creature?

1083
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. All these fucking all this magic on

1084
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. I don't know what's happening. All right, speaking

1085
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: of magic, let's get the ruby.

1086
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the one.

1087
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: A white woman, her white woman wakes up in the

1088
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: bed and it's the same white woman who had the

1089
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: dogs back in artum.

1090
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 3: Oh oh okay, I was trying to place that.

1091
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: Wow, you watched the whole thing.

1092
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: You didn't know that.

1093
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: No, I just thought was a random white woman. Yeah,

1094
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: it's the same, it's the same. I didn't realize what

1095
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: that same because she was cleaned up. You know that

1096
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 2: it was dirty and nasty looking. I mean, you know,

1097
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: cused up a character, but you know she wouldn't know

1098
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: cleaned and up.

1099
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, they just picked the random

1100
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: white woman.

1101
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: I have white women facial blindness as well, but you know,

1102
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: researching some of the shell stuff, like when I have

1103
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: to look up characters and stuff, you know, it'll be

1104
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: like this character played this actress played these two characters

1105
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. But yeah, they yeah, it was the same

1106
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: white woman cleaned up and was wasn't dirty down, which

1107
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: is so funny because the racist version I heard that

1108
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: was our country and stuff was good. And I remember

1109
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: I remember being like, damn, they really didn't do much

1110
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: with that character at all, like with this actress. You know,

1111
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: that's like very few sometimes you eat up a role

1112
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: like Latavious on.

1113
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: Latavia's on Black Lightning. Yes you do so good.

1114
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, what are y'all gonna? I know y'all

1115
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: noticed it. As producers and directors what are y'all gonna

1116
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: do to get this man back on the show?

1117
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and play the hell out of that role.

1118
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 3: She ate that racist y'all go sell some old fashioned

1119
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: drugs whatever you want.

1120
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: Bus you know, And she was the black bears are

1121
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: not very smart, very stupid blacks, you know, but not

1122
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: stupid stupid like a dog, stupid, but like an ape,

1123
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: not nearly as smart as the white pure polar bear,

1124
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: that racist us. You know, them black bears eating, they watermelons, dancing,

1125
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: they jigs. Hmmm, while you looking at me like that

1126
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: yogi ah you docas so.

1127
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 2: Then the white woman wakes.

1128
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: Up and uh stretches and stares at her hands as

1129
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: if they are new hands she has never seen before.

1130
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: Then she stares, she jumps out of like like like

1131
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: jumps up in the bed, stares down at her body,

1132
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: like what the fuck are these white titt is doing,

1133
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: and then just out of bed and has trouble standing

1134
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: as if they're like new legs, dough legs, like when

1135
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: you see a deer born in the middle of the

1136
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: forest and it can't even walk.

1137
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: And uh, truth be told. When I seen it, I

1138
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: kept saying in my.

1139
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 3: Mind, I was like, that's rude because because in my

1140
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: mind I was like, he put a trance or a

1141
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: William put a trance or.

1142
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 2: A spell on her.

1143
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 3: I was like, whatever it did, this is the end result.

1144
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: Well, she looks in the mirror at her full naked

1145
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: white body and goes wake up, Ruby slaps her face,

1146
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: wake up. And that's when the title credits start, and

1147
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, what the fuck are we watching?

1148
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1149
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: I was this nigga fucked.

1150
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: Her white the change some too whole lass white woman.

1151
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 2: Okay, this motherfucker got the magic stick for real. Okay,

1152
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: this my fucking hat.

1153
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: Hi gonna sop all the racism trying to tell you

1154
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: into one white woman at a time.

1155
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: You fuck William?

1156
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: You wake up?

1157
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: You like? I love punkin spice latte? Where's my uther?

1158
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: And honestly, now that I think about it, all laves

1159
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: do matter?

1160
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, I want to all of a sudden,

1161
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: I want to go get a tan mm.

1162
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 2: Tom Brady is my favorite quarterback, all right.

1163
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,919
Speaker 1: Later on the street, we see the same white lady

1164
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 1: walking around looking disheveled lost. She is in the colored

1165
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 1: part of town, so like she is not a white

1166
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: lady looking disheveled and lost in the white part of town. No,

1167
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: she's where the blacks are because those will be the

1168
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: streets that are familiar to Ruby. Yes, she looks in

1169
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: a shop door in the reflection of it, and a

1170
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: shop owner comes out and says, mis can help you.

1171
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: Then she goes, I'm Ruby Baptists, I'm lost. I need help.

1172
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: And then she turns around and all the black people

1173
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: are staring at her like what is this white woman doing?

1174
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: You don't belong here, but like in a way of concern,

1175
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: like how do we how do we get you back.

1176
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: Where you belong because we don't want no problem.

1177
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: Right, like partially you present danger or something something happened

1178
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: to you, but then also like you need help. And

1179
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: so a little a boy sees her says, ma'am, are

1180
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: you okay? And she bumps into him because she's so frantic,

1181
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: And of course, as always, as soon as see this

1182
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 1: little boy boy holding this movie popcorn, bumps this lady,

1183
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: the police finally show up out of nowhere else and

1184
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: they just, you know, of course, like this little boys

1185
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: a rapist slim woman beat them down, you know, like

1186
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: they're about to fuck this little kid up. Yeah, they

1187
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: was slamming them on the hood of the car, like, ma'am,

1188
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: is he molesting you? Like they didn't even go there harassing, bothering.

1189
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: They went to no, right, like, ma'am, it's this little

1190
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: boy trying to sexually assault you in the middle street

1191
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: in front of everybody. She was like, and so, but

1192
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: the thing is, and this is such great acting on

1193
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: this actress's part, the way they played it, she is

1194
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: ruby inside, right, So she reacted how a black woman

1195
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: will react. She put her hands up, Yes she did.

1196
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's that is definitely ruby. Police

1197
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: showed up. She threw her hands like, oh, we all

1198
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 2: going to jail.

1199
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: Right right, Like she was clearly scared, like she was like,

1200
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, these motherfuckers are about to fuck me up.

1201
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, so she'm I didn't do it right.

1202
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: So she was like let me like like like put

1203
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: my hands up, you know.

1204
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 2: Officers, please don't shoot.

1205
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: And they're like, ma'am, miss white woman, what's this poor

1206
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: what's this boy? This monster trying to kill you or something?

1207
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: And she didn't look at your own no, no, she

1208
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: was like, no he didn't.

1209
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: And right before the cop was about to beat the

1210
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: shit out of the kids, she goes, oh, he didn't

1211
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: hurt me. I got lost, and and the police begrudgingly

1212
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: let the boy go.

1213
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: By the way, it's still still begrudgingly.

1214
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't aough. Oh, we're sorry about that. We didn't realize. Okay,

1215
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: we would not we They was like.

1216
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: I guess I got get viol on in front of

1217
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: this white woman. I guess we'll beat your black ass tomorrow. Tomorrow.

1218
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: Right now, we have a missing white woman alert. And

1219
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: so she says, he didn't hurt me, I got lost.

1220
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: The police let him go, and then they put her

1221
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: in the back of the squad car and they say

1222
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: they're taking her home, to which she's like looking at

1223
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, like, you can't take me here.

1224
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: This is where white people live. Yet this is I

1225
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 2: was at home. This is not home.

1226
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: And they're like, ma'am, your husband's been real worried about you.

1227
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: And she's like, husband, I don't have no husband. That

1228
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: man did something to me. And uh, they're like he

1229
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: said that, you know, you off your meds or something like,

1230
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: you might be having some problems and you need to

1231
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: come back to the house right away, right And so

1232
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: she started having these spasms in the back of the

1233
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 1: car and they're like, yep.

1234
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: This is the spasms he was talking about.

1235
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: And keep in mind she is a white woman, but

1236
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: they are not listening to her, would they She's still

1237
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: a woman. These two white men in the front of

1238
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: this cop car, like a white man said his wife

1239
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: is out. Now.

1240
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: Think about what the scenarios could have been.

1241
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: She could have been escaping an abusive situation at home,

1242
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: and she's telling them like, please don't bring me back

1243
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: to this man.

1244
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't trust him. That's not my husband.

1245
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: They was like, yeah, yeah, whatever, bitch. The white man

1246
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: already told us what happened is going back your meds

1247
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: and you need to get back home a property.

1248
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: We're taking you back to your owner.

1249
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm thinking, like, damn, did Williams Dick turn

1250
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: her into a wearcaren?

1251
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: Like is it every four more?

1252
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: When she's just whoa? You know, you just like, oh whoa?

1253
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: Like if you just stare till the moon and start

1254
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: howling Taylor Swift songs, uh, Miley Sire songs and her

1255
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: hands up playing and something at the butterfly sign a way,

1256
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: oh no, it's starting.

1257
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm transforming, Like yeah, head off, he just going to hate. Heykay,

1258
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'll take No, it's heavening. It's heavening.

1259
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 2: It's like, ray, come on on your wedding Dale. Oh no,

1260
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 2: I have to go train myself to a Starbucks before.

1261
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Where's the little limit? Where's the little limit? I have

1262
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: to go before it's too late?

1263
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: I know, isn't it ironic?

1264
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh no? So then she starts spasting her eyes. One

1265
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: of her eyes turns brown.

1266
01:06:58,880 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: We get a close up.

1267
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: With that freaky shot, and then so it's like, oh,

1268
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: she's starting to transform something. And then they pull up

1269
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 1: William take and she's so like the spasm she's going

1270
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: through of taking her soul like out of it. She

1271
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: can't even protest anymore. She really just needs to get

1272
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: somewhere and get in the house. So William pull pulls up,

1273
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: comes out, walks her like carries up into the house.

1274
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: And then we walk in and this motherfucker got the

1275
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: house decked out like American Psycho like right before uh,

1276
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: right before Christian Belle used to kill people in that movie.

1277
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: And he put like like some Dexterra shit like plastic

1278
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: all over.

1279
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 3: The floor and shit, and I'm like he had he

1280
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: and he had more plastic than your grandma couch.

1281
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it was the couch in the den plastic.

1282
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 3: And he did like, ain't nothing getting sucked up in here?

1283
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: So then he lays her on the ground. She's wriggling

1284
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: and ship and he's said, stop fighting, you're only slowing

1285
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: down the process, and then turns up the TV to

1286
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: the news to cover the He said, you know, the

1287
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: neighbors don't need to hear this. I'm like, what is

1288
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: he about to murder this white way? And then she

1289
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: tries to crawl away. He grabs or pulls her back

1290
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: onto the plastic and now he's wearing gloves, like.

1291
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: Like about it, get real? What the hell is about

1292
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: to happen up in this piece? And he got a knife,

1293
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: so he's basically, Ohjay, at this point, I'm about to die.

1294
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 1: Uh. So she says I don't want to die, and

1295
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 1: he goes he would.

1296
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: Say metamorphosis isn't death. Now, I don't know.

1297
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: Who the heat is in the heat when he says

1298
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: he would say metamorphosis is death. May we'll find out later,

1299
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: but that's what he said was he would say, I know,

1300
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: you know it's not William who's the heat?

1301
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:56,440
Speaker 3: Maybe from reading a book of item Titus. Maybe yeah,

1302
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: the father his father, Yeah, so uh. He opens her

1303
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,560
Speaker 3: robe and stabs her in the stomach as she screams,

1304
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: and then it kind of goes into the disc like

1305
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 3: the foreground of us watching this news report. But in

1306
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 3: the background we see like he is like ripping, Like

1307
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 3: there's this ripping motion of almost like ripping something.

1308
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 2: Out of her, like opening up her ribs.

1309
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: I was like the fun she's screaming in the background,

1310
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: and then the news report is like in breaking news,

1311
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: a swarm of sixteen billion Kenyon locus are moving across

1312
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: North Africa with.

1313
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: Fucking up everything. Why they why they move across the land.

1314
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: With Great Britain in their crosshairs because you know they

1315
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: only care when it start getting close to the white people.

1316
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 2: Shit, sorry to say.

1317
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: Locus nymphs hatch from eggs and they go through five

1318
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: moulting stages where.

1319
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: They will shed their skin.

1320
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be paying attention where they will shed their

1321
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: skin and develop their wings. After seven days, they can

1322
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 1: reach their full sexual maturity as adult locusts destined to

1323
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: devour everything in their paths. We will be coming back

1324
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: to this moment because I think it's important.

1325
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: So about to fuck some shit up.

1326
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like it's foreshadowing, Like, are you foreshadowing

1327
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: what Ruby will become? Are you foreshadowing what William already is?

1328
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: So we'll get into that. Then we come back. Ruby's

1329
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: laying on the bed, eyes closed like she sleep, and

1330
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: William walks in wearing only a towel, starts getting dressed

1331
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: in this dope ass burgundy suit, and goes on a

1332
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: rich white man monologue. A butterfly lives a full life

1333
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: before it dies, and a caterpillar emerges from the same cells,

1334
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: the essence of the butterfly yet different.

1335
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 2: It's more.

1336
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: I wanted to apply this process on metamorphices to human

1337
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: but my.

1338
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 2: Research is all theoretical.

1339
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: It was laughed at by the academic community until by

1340
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: chance I met a disgraced professor named harm Epstein, who

1341
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: is the former owner of the house, the one armed

1342
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: scientist the experimented on black people, who was kicked out

1343
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: of a university for experimenting on humans. He wanted nothing

1344
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: more than to understand the universe, but it was beyond

1345
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: his reach, so he created doorways, not scientific but magical,

1346
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: though one could argue that one in the same to

1347
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: which point He kind of sits down on the bed

1348
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: next to Ruby goes, I know you're awake, Ruby, and

1349
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: Ruby just stops bullshit and.

1350
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: It's like, ah, yeah, you're right, I'm up. Yeah.

1351
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: And the thing is, it is funny though, because I

1352
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 3: was like, oh, Ruby has no idea who the hell

1353
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: William is talking about. But we know you know, and

1354
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,480
Speaker 3: we know that Letty knows, and it's gonna be interesting

1355
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 3: when Ruby finds out what how what Letty knows and

1356
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 3: what you know and shit like that.

1357
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all for the show for us at home,

1358
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: the viewers, But for Ruby, you're right, this means next

1359
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: to nothing, like the people mean nothing to her. Yeah,

1360
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: that's the thing I would. I could say like sometimes

1361
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: I love the show, by the way, like it's to me,

1362
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: I love I just love it. But sometimes the show

1363
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: does step outside and become like a show show. And

1364
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: to me this is like you know, exposition, it's it's listen, audience,

1365
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: you need some help putting these two pieces together. In

1366
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: case you're not getting it, let's spell it out for you.

1367
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: You know, William is involved in this thing too, and

1368
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: this uh, this fight for the pages of Adam and

1369
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: all this type of shit so at any rate, he

1370
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: sits down on the bed and goes, oh wait, he

1371
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,799
Speaker 1: looks in the mirror, speaks some of the language of Adam,

1372
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: and then he sits on the bed and we see

1373
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 1: butterflies form out of nothing and start flying around the room.

1374
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: And he's like, Ruby, I know you're awake, and so

1375
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: she sees.

1376
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: She wakes up.

1377
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: She sees, well, she stops faking sleep, looks up and

1378
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: sees the butterflies flying around the room. By the way,

1379
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: her faking sleep is the blackest shit ever because this nigga,

1380
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: don't secretly turn me to a white woman. And now

1381
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: back to myself, I'm honestly just trying to sleep until

1382
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: you leave the house so I could sneak the fuck out.

1383
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 1: She was like me after every every time my parents

1384
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: were like, you know what you did today, You're gonna

1385
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: get a whooping. Now, I ain't gonna do it right now,

1386
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm gonna go fake being asleep. Okay,

1387
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: We're just gonna see if I can get through this

1388
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: one by just pretending to be sleep.

1389
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 3: And see for me, I was terrible. I pretend and

1390
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 3: then I'll actually go to sleep.

1391
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's what would happened normally, but you

1392
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: know what else, normally stop me from getting a whooping on.

1393
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: Parents don't like whooping sleeping children because you mean, you're

1394
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna be.

1395
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 3: Back up, right, and then they got to deal with

1396
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 3: your ass being woke again.

1397
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was because they thought I was a

1398
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: door was sleeping, but now I'm grown. I'm like, they

1399
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: probably just gonna whoop somebody, and then you gotta deal

1400
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: with two more hours of this nigga calming down again, right.

1401
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: Because then I got their energy back. No, thank you,

1402
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 2: stay asleep.

1403
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, he went to bed at

1404
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: four thirty in the afternoon. I already won this round.

1405
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 3: I was.

1406
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,480
Speaker 2: I got the said the day that my goddamn.

1407
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: Self, motherfucker went to bed before Star Trek the next

1408
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,520
Speaker 1: Generation came on, I'm gonna just take the gwind.

1409
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: And yes, I'm gonna take the victory. Oh, this nigga

1410
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: even missed dinner. I'm gonna take the victory. We'll talk

1411
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,759
Speaker 2: about this ship in the morning. So yeah, he.

1412
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: She he basically says wake up and she goes magic

1413
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: is real and he's like yeah, and then she was like,

1414
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: did you did I die? So you could turn me

1415
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: into that white woman. And he's like, no, the potion

1416
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: just mimics metamorphosis. It wears off after a time, and he's, uh,

1417
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: oh that's what she goes. Magic is really he goes,

1418
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: does that scare you? And she goes, it scares the

1419
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: shit out of me? To wake up white. Then when

1420
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 1: I was stumbling down the street crazy to shoveled and

1421
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: screaming at everyone around me, they weren't scared of me.

1422
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: They were scared for me.

1423
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: They all treated me like and he's like a human

1424
01:14:54,400 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: being message mm hmm. I know the transformation was painful,

1425
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: but that's the point I want to go back to

1426
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: with her going out the street, those people were concerned

1427
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: for her. Now, sure they were concerned for their safety

1428
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: because it's a white women in their proximity at that time.

1429
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 1: White woman shit to today can be weaponized the same

1430
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: thing that we just watch happen with Christian Cooper, you know,

1431
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: and many of these other white women calling the police

1432
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: on people agreed, So you know, in that moment, sure

1433
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: they were concerned for their own safety, but there's also

1434
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: an innate care and concern about another human being, something

1435
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: that we have as marginalized people that white people don't

1436
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: always have right like, you know, if that would have

1437
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: been Clan Country and some white black women was walking

1438
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: down the street to shovel, there would be a level of.

1439
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 2: Nigger, you don't belong, Get the fuck out, but not

1440
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: a ma'am.

1441
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: You seem to be heard. How can we help you? Yes,

1442
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: that's not a thing that would often happen then and

1443
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: sometimes to today. Not a thing that often happens. So

1444
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, you like, you can hope you run across

1445
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: aod white person, but there's just as much a chance

1446
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,600
Speaker 1: you run across a shit probably a better chance in

1447
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: a lot of areas, and definitely in nineteen fifty two,

1448
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: that you run across the wrong white person at any rate.

1449
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: She William says, I know the transformation was painful. She

1450
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,839
Speaker 1: says that wasn't pain, that was something else, like being unmade.

1451
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: And he says, I promise it'll be easier next time.

1452
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: She's like, it won't be a next time, and that's

1453
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: when he's like, I gotta go leave. I got some

1454
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: business take care of, you know, selid that interlude off

1455
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: of a supreme clientele.

1456
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 3: He might as well say, I got some hoes to go.

1457
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: I need to go look at I got.

1458
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: Some business take care of cause you've been fucking with

1459
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: the ace. And then on the counter he leaves a

1460
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: stack of money and another dose of that potion on

1461
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: a golden tray, and Ruby gets her stuff like she's

1462
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 1: gonna leave, and then she stops, stares back at that

1463
01:16:55,720 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: tray and guess what, y'all. The next the next thing

1464
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: we see is a montage or Ruby out in public

1465
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 1: as a white woman, being the whitest of the white

1466
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: and I love the way they felm this. It was

1467
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: overlaid to a narration of uh uh Indazaki uh Sean

1468
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:20,879
Speaker 1: Gay's poem an excerpt for Colored Girls who considered suicide

1469
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: When the Rainbow is enough.

1470
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 2: And so it's this beautiful spoken word but.

1471
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 1: At the same time, and it's talking about like the

1472
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: pains of being a black woman and the beauty of

1473
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: being a black woman. Why won't people, you know, celebrate

1474
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: black women and shit. But at the same time, it's

1475
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: Ruby as a living a white woman life.

1476
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 3: Yes, And and the thing is what was so beautiful

1477
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 3: about this is because we know it was Ruby. Her

1478
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 3: actions were still black even though she was a white woman,

1479
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 3: Like she walking and a police officer was directing traffic.

1480
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 3: She's stopping, and she like, you know, because white people

1481
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: have a tendency to when you when you're walking to

1482
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: they'll just walk into you like you're not even there.

1483
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: And so you know, she was moving around, moving out

1484
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 3: of people wags, you know, not walking like she was white,

1485
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 3: like like she.

1486
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 2: Owned shit, you know. And so I was like, oh,

1487
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 2: she might be white.

1488
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 3: But she is literally still moving like a black person.

1489
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's almost the same as what happened

1490
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: at first. It's almost what happened in that first scene

1491
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 1: with the cops pulled up on her. She raised both hands.

1492
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: It's not as pronounced as that. But the thing I

1493
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: noticed is her white her day of freedom. You know,

1494
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 1: in this poem that is talking about celebrating black women,

1495
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: that's womanness and stuff. Her freedom was just regular white people,

1496
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: just regular shit. It wasn't even white people shit like

1497
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 1: it stuff we take for granted today.

1498
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,799
Speaker 2: Like she goes to the park, she goes.

1499
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: And gets some ice cream which is given to her

1500
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: for free, which really hearkens back to that Gordon Parks

1501
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: ice cream homage that they had in episode one where

1502
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: they showed the colored ice cream section. She was going

1503
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: through the front, yes, right, and then and then the

1504
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 1: dude gave it to her.

1505
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 2: She didn't have to spend any money.

1506
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: Then she sits down on a park bench and she

1507
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: reads the newspaper.

1508
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Mary Poppins was gonna show up, butterflies is.

1509
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: Everywhere, right, it was. Honestly, when I tell y'all live

1510
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 1: a white woman of color life, the only thing missing

1511
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: was uggs.

1512
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 3: Okay, come out, look like a whole Disney Channel commercial.

1513
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 2: Right.

1514
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: And so then in the park she reads the newspaper

1515
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: and sees an ad I noticed one of the add

1516
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: that she was looking at. The must is a movie

1517
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: called Confidence Girl, which is a nineteen fifty two movie

1518
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 1: about a woman who was basically a con artist and

1519
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: then her and her boyfriend trying to con people led

1520
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: to her downfall. But yeah, it's just you know, it

1521
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: was but it was like, oh, because she's kind of

1522
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: a con artist, right now, no one knows this is

1523
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 1: a con movie, is not this white woman? And so

1524
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 1: then Ruby goes back to the mansion. She's relaxing in

1525
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: the tub singing Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea,

1526
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: which is a song about two impossible choices, like do

1527
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: you pick between the Devil, which you know, the devil

1528
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: always has song type of evil play.

1529
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get some up.

1530
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: Or the deep Blue Seed, which is you know, hopeless

1531
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: and infinite and a struggle that will you know you

1532
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: will eventually succumb to. So when she choose and when

1533
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: she's singing a song, you see William staring at her

1534
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,919
Speaker 1: from the doorway she's in the tub, and she basically

1535
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: just goes, all right, cut the ship. What do you want?

1536
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: You didn't do this for nothing?

1537
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I ain't that special. You could have

1538
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: picked any colored girl on that side of town, not

1539
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: just me. So what do you want from me? And

1540
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: he said, She's like, why me? And he goes why not?

1541
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 1: And he comes over to the tub, starts watching her back,

1542
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: and he says, laying eyes on her was the first

1543
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: time he felt magic where there was none, which is

1544
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: a smooth line, but it always feels like, you know,

1545
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: William is full of shit to a certain extent from me,

1546
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how you feel in these scenes.

1547
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like a smooth talker.

1548
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it don't feel It feels like seduction, not not

1549
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: like romance. But you know, so he says that eventually

1550
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: he will need a favor for a woman friend and

1551
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: does that bother you? And she's like, depends on what

1552
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 1: the favor is and he's like, it's a small favor,

1553
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: its significant, really, And then he holds a towel or

1554
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: she gets out of the bath, and until then he

1555
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: tells her, you can do whatever you please, come and

1556
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: gos you want and whatever skin you like. So I

1557
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: guess she's out of the boarding house. He asked why

1558
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't she use any of the money on the stand though,

1559
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: because he came back the potion was gone, but the

1560
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: money was still there, and she said she enjoyed her

1561
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: entire day using the only currency she needed, whiteness. Come on, yeah,

1562
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 1: like she was trying to tell y'all something back there.

1563
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: Okay, whites enjoying this show. Okay, we don't teach shit, we.

1564
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: Know, but yeah, it's like, I'm just gonna use the

1565
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: only currency that matters in America. Okay, whiteness is what matters, Okay,

1566
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: Which you can't really blame her with the red man.

1567
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: We can do anything, okay, uh in this case white woman.

1568
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: So uh then we get uh my notes here, all right.

1569
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 1: So then after saying you can do whatever you want.

1570
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: She also says, I don't know what's more difficult, being

1571
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 1: colored or being a woman.

1572
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 2: Most days I'm happy to be both.

1573
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: But the world he's interrupted, and I'm sick of being interrupted.

1574
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 2: And he says, so what's next for Ruby?

1575
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,560
Speaker 1: Uninterrupted? Now this was kind of like a panting Melton line,

1576
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: but not in a sexual way, but in the like

1577
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: empowering way, like I'm offering you something with this whiteness.

1578
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 1: So then Money by Cardi B plays, Now this is now.

1579
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm getting more and more used to

1580
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: the count, to the current music and the.

1581
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 2: Like it's growing on me even more.

1582
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: Like at first I was kind of like talking myself

1583
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: into it, like oh okay, but but now like sometimes

1584
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: you're just like that's perfect.

1585
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 2: That's perfect.

1586
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: And Money in this scene walking into Marshall Fields as

1587
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: a white woman, that was it. That's almost perfect for

1588
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: that scene and the way they show like all this

1589
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: this this consumer goods and shit that she probably would

1590
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 1: never have access to as a black person.

1591
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: And with that, I was born to flex Domad's on

1592
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: the neck.

1593
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 3: I like, even as a black woman, Ruby like the

1594
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: finer things in life.

1595
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: She liked to be fancy, and that's the thing.

1596
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: Even as a broke black woman, she find the shit

1597
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: so and well put together and all this stuff and

1598
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: all these scenes so like.

1599
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 3: And she walked I don't want to say up ay,

1600
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 3: but she walked like I owed it. Even as a

1601
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 3: black woman, she walked like, oh, oh.

1602
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that because you know what, you

1603
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: know what, But stick a pin in that because I'm

1604
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: coming back to that shit.

1605
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:31,879
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

1606
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: Because she does carry herself a certain way, some may

1607
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: even call her bougie okay. But yeah, So as a

1608
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,839
Speaker 1: white woman, though, she goes up to Paul Hughes's office,

1609
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: who opens a door, and he's like, come on in,

1610
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: it's Davenport. She's chosen the name Hillary Davenport. You know,

1611
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: maybe for Hillary Clinton. I don't know, uh, And he

1612
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,959
Speaker 1: basically looks at her resume and goes seven type of classes,

1613
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: eight the count classes. God, damn, you overqualified. You should

1614
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: be getting my job. Because white people think that's always funny.

1615
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 3: And it wouldn't surprise me if that was her true resume.

1616
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 3: Just what she changed the name?

1617
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: Come, I don't care, you see it, okay, be on

1618
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: the same page. And then he says, but tell me

1619
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 1: what's not on the resume? Who is Hillary Davenport? And

1620
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 1: she seemed to have a prepared story, but the counter

1621
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: prepared story you have when you haven't truly thought you

1622
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: would get this far, you know what I mean?

1623
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 3: Right, she started coming out and it was like, oh,

1624
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 3: wait a minute, I need to It was almost like

1625
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 3: I should have rewrote this out. I need to modify

1626
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 3: this story just a little bit.

1627
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 1: She tried to answer it like it was a movie monologue.

1628
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: She's like, who is Hillary Davenport? Well, I'm glad you asked.

1629
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: Hillary Davenport is an important, good, uh, white woman of

1630
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: ill of all sorts, of modern renown. Uh.

1631
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, but like where are you from?

1632
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: That kind of shit?

1633
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, yes, I'm a small.

1634
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: Town in Maine. And he's like, which one I'm from Maine?

1635
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: Small? It's too small.

1636
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: You wouldn't even know it would try me anyway.

1637
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: My mother moved to Chicago with my sister, and she

1638
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: would take me and let it I mean me and

1639
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: my sister, because a white woman would never say her

1640
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: sister's name. Me and my sister we go, you know,

1641
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: from her heartbreak, the heartbreak, and then she would take

1642
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: us to the department stores and all the people would

1643
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 1: greet her and she would feel whole again. And I thought,

1644
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 1: what would it be like to be on the other

1645
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: side of that counter. And I thought to myself, she

1646
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: didn't answer none of his questions, And honestly, at this point,

1647
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: I said, she didn't make a plan. She thought she

1648
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: could rely on whiteness and vagueness and would just get

1649
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: the job anyway. Now she's gonna get busted. And guess what, y'all,

1650
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: she ain't get busted because whiteness.

1651
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: Is that good. Whiteness is I told you the hell

1652
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: of a drug, right.

1653
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: He's like, looking at your resume, here says your social

1654
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: Security number one one one one one one.

1655
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: One one one.

1656
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: That's correct. Okay, checks out to me. Uh, you fucking hired?

1657
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: When do you start? You know? And so he's like, uh, yeah,

1658
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: good enough for me. But that's not really why I

1659
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: was asking you who you are. I really want to know.

1660
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop you right down, player.

1661
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: Uh, how do you.

1662
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: Feel about working with colors? That was the real question.

1663
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Uh, to be honest, And he's like, because we lost

1664
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot of employees.

1665
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:43,520
Speaker 2: When we had black woman Tamera from last episode.

1666
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, if she's qualified and hard working,

1667
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't see the problem with offering her the opportunities

1668
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: that US white folks take advantage of. And it may

1669
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: it remind me so much of that SNL skit with

1670
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy where he was a white man and in

1671
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: white he was in white man makeup and he went

1672
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: and got the loan from the bank.

1673
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 2: It's this whole scene just felt like.

1674
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 4: That, like, you know, us white folks wink wink, you

1675
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 4: know how we do right, we love our mayonnaise on

1676
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 4: both sides of the bread the.

1677
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: Other thing, do we do that? And so with cheese, right,

1678
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 1: like we love cheese as us whites often says, zip

1679
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 1: it did do doll And so then he's like, well,

1680
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: ever since you know our company uh started ending our

1681
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: white's only policy, and it just happened. She starts spasming again,

1682
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: which we know means a transformation is coming on. And

1683
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: this is when I realized that the transformation is really

1684
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: a symbolism for lactose in tolerance, which many of US

1685
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: blacks deal with. Okay, and you guys had to use

1686
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 1: the restroom in a public situation, it can be ugly. Nah.

1687
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: But he's like, uh, you know when she when she

1688
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: flexes off of the spasms, he thinks she's going like

1689
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: what it is no longer white's homely, and he has

1690
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: an impulse to calm her.

1691
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: It is not a oh well, then, bitch, get the

1692
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: fuck out. You can't work here.

1693
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, no, they're not race crusaders

1694
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: or anything. It's all about that almighty dollar. Okay, don't

1695
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 1: don't get it twisted. We don't actually see them as people.

1696
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 1: We just want the money.

1697
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 2: And then he goes, well, you know what, God damn it.

1698
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: You got yourself a deal assistant manager. And I saw

1699
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 1: number one. If she wasn't a woman, she could be

1700
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: the manager. That's what that told me, because she had more.

1701
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 2: He was like, I should be learning from you that shit.

1702
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: But then the other thing is she had applied with

1703
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 1: this resume to this job before as a black woman

1704
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: and had not gotten it.

1705
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 2: And she did not apply on.

1706
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: A whim like Tamra did so like they did not

1707
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,679
Speaker 1: select her qualified black ass but as a white woman

1708
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 1: over qualified. Boy, that ship was sh it was deep, y'all.

1709
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,879
Speaker 2: And she was doing the dance. Yeah, yeah, she was struggling.

1710
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:23,759
Speaker 1: Okay, it was getting it was getting real up in uh,

1711
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: up in Marshall Fields. And so he was like, let

1712
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: me tell you, let me take you on the tour.

1713
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: And she was like, okay, but first I need to

1714
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: go to the little girl's room. And he's like all

1715
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: right then and uh he looked in the seat and

1716
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: was like, wait, you dropped your and it was the potion. Yeah,

1717
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: he thought it was perfume, but we know it's the potion.

1718
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: And then she runs to the elevator, convulsing the whole way. Honestly,

1719
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 1: this ship was like some comedy ship. It was like

1720
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: the Nutty Professor when he started when Eddie Murphy Us

1721
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: just started transforming. Yes, that's like and then he was like, oh,

1722
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, Like she was Nutty Professor at Coonan

1723
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: all the way back to the elevator. She got on

1724
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 1: just in time, and she slammed herself up against the

1725
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: wall and the whole time, the way they did special effects,

1726
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 1: she's bursting through the white skin, so and it's bloody

1727
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: and underneath there.

1728
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. All all you could see was

1729
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: like the separation of skin. I was like, what the

1730
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: hell is happening?

1731
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: So they went for the very freaky special effects. But

1732
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: I have to say, this is definitely a moment where

1733
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: you go, this is a fucking TV show because all

1734
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: her transformations that were kind of comical and you know, like,

1735
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, what is she gonna do now? They

1736
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: were all like, ma'am, you turned back into a black

1737
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,919
Speaker 1: woman in broad daylight and walked home covered in blood

1738
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: and viscera. Several times during this episode, it's no fucking

1739
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: way like you. No, not nineteen fifty two, not nineteen

1740
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna stop your ass and be like, ma'am.

1741
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: Who did you kill?

1742
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: Like where are the bodies?

1743
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: Where is the white woman?

1744
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: You? You?

1745
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 2: You exploded through?

1746
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 1: Please?

1747
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 2: Yes we need her.

1748
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, so you know, but you know, it's a

1749
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: hard show, like you know, kind of the skip over

1750
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: there that's not very important, but I thought it was funny.

1751
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: So then yes, she does get the job. But like

1752
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: I said, they never take the tour. She just leaves,

1753
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: which I assume she left and just didn't come back,

1754
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: which another thing I said, God damn, white people got

1755
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: a good He.

1756
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 2: Figured I should just come back to Marrow.

1757
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I guess she had to go and just whooped the dude.

1758
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: So then in the morning, she's dressed to impress at

1759
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: the top of the escalator and Paul or stairs or

1760
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: Paul comes up there, mister hughes the manager and kisses

1761
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: her hand and.

1762
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 2: Says, uh, you know, hey, good luck, basically like.

1763
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm not the Apollo log at the Apollo, but good

1764
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: luck today on your first day at the job. And

1765
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: then she goes downstairs because some customers are complaining that

1766
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: they haven't been helped in times, like I've been waiting

1767
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: twelve minutes and where is that woman? And apparently Tamra

1768
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 1: of the black woman was supposed to be at the

1769
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: perfume counter and she wasn't there, and so she's kind

1770
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 1: of pissed and she's like, why weren't you at the

1771
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 1: We can't make money if you don't.

1772
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 2: Greet the customers. Where were you?

1773
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: And basically, all the white women coworkers had put Tamra

1774
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: to work doing their jobs like put away the shoes

1775
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: for me, do this, do that, and so she was

1776
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: now doing her job and their job right. Meanwhile they

1777
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 1: were complaining about her black ass even having a job.

1778
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, she basically but covering for them couldn't do

1779
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 1: what she was supposed to do. And to be honest,

1780
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: Hillary didn't seem to have very much sympathy for the shit,

1781
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 1: Like it was basically like, yo, well, well look I'm

1782
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: not trying. She's like, I'm not trying. You're not in

1783
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: any trouble, don't you know. Don't get too uptight. Breathe.

1784
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:06,000
Speaker 1: And I remember that you told me you got this

1785
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: job on a whim after all, And Tamor's like, I

1786
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 1: never told you that. And she's like, oh, I must

1787
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 1: have heard it from Paul, must have told me or whatever.

1788
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,360
Speaker 1: And she's like, well, I hope you still feel still

1789
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 1: in a part of the Marshall Fields family and that

1790
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: no matter what, they can't take your educational achievements away

1791
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 1: from you, okay, baby girl, And tamer goes, what educational achievements?

1792
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: I only got a seventh grade education. It's like she

1793
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: couldn't take the comments. She's like, no, ma'am, I'm dumb

1794
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: as hell. I don't know how I got this job.

1795
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: Which we know there's anger there because of course, as

1796
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: a black woman, she ruby felt overqualified and never got

1797
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: the job. And here's Tamar who is under in her opinion,

1798
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: underqualified or at least less qualified and somehow got the job.

1799
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: And so she's mad, ye about this, shit's right, even

1800
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: though she he's Hillary right, and so she says, well, well,

1801
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 1: you must have taken accounting classes down at the Frederick

1802
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 1: Douglas School for achievement. She was like, Nope, never heard

1803
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 1: of that. You can take them classes? That's crazy?

1804
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 2: Whoa uh rubenk like.

1805
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 1: Right, like how the fuck you get this job? You know?

1806
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 2: Man, look I hear you. It's funny to me too,

1807
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 2: and I mean it's strange. It's strange to me too.

1808
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: That's how Tamor was like.

1809
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: Hey. So then she gets so mad that she's like,

1810
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: takes the lotion off of the counter and slams it

1811
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 1: down and goes, your hands are a bit ashy and

1812
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 1: then walks off.

1813
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 3: Because yeah, as a black person she would notice it

1814
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:46,920
Speaker 3: like that.

1815
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, god, damn, Ruby, don't turn into a whole Karen.

1816
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 1: Yes she did, all right, so U yeah, she says

1817
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:58,000
Speaker 1: your hands are a bit ashy and storms off.

1818
01:35:58,640 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 2: Now this is.

1819
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 1: What but well, actually, you know, one more scene and

1820
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 1: then we'll get to my point about Ruby. In the back,

1821
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 1: all the white sales girls are taking a break, chilling

1822
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: and trying on dresses and shoes.

1823
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 3: They they day the type people that comes in for

1824
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: full eight hours and you may get a smooth too

1825
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,599
Speaker 3: at the max out of them.

1826
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, you know, tam are out there doing all their

1827
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 1: jobs and hers and getting fussed at.

1828
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 2: So the inn the back, they're just like, for.

1829
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 1: How hard we work, they should give all this stuff

1830
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: to us for free. And Hillary, the man who's the

1831
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: assistant manager, and over all these women goes, hey, it's

1832
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: been thirty minutes.

1833
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 2: When you get back to work, and they're like, oh,

1834
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:44,719
Speaker 2: you can try.

1835
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 1: Not be in a bitch and put on some shoes

1836
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 1: like yo, hudsy, yeah, you're stuck up sticking the mud,

1837
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: and like she's like oh they so she's kind of

1838
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: flattered and pear pressured into doing it. As she put

1839
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: it's on some knotty stilettos and they goof off. And

1840
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 1: these are some mean caddy white women, by the way, these.

1841
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Some mean girls.

1842
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: Like one of them was kind of fat and she

1843
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: was like, what do you think about this? And they're

1844
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: like her, you like marily Merrow. And the other one

1845
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: was like, I think if you stop stuff in your

1846
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: face with bond bonds, you might be able to close

1847
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: that coat and they're like, oh you Cad.

1848
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 2: I was like, all these women hate each other, yes, and.

1849
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 3: But bon bonds are fucking delicious. I understand white women.

1850
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 1: Uh so, So then she asked if like when they're

1851
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: putting on the hills Hilary slash Ruby asked the other

1852
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: white women, Hey, does Paul has he ever gotten fresh

1853
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: women in y'all?

1854
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 2: Now?

1855
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,080
Speaker 1: The reason this comes up one after her interview was over,

1856
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: he hugged her and then also that morning he kissed

1857
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,680
Speaker 1: her on her hand to start to day. So she's thinking, like,

1858
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,679
Speaker 1: is this nigga flirting with me? Is he gonna try

1859
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: some un towards shit? And they laugh at the mirrors,

1860
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 1: just like Paul. He comes afraight out of a rock

1861
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: for painting with his two kids and his wife Like

1862
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: that square nigga, He ain't gonna have to be doing nothing.

1863
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: And then they started dancing to the white version of

1864
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 1: too the Fruit the Ha And of course they were

1865
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 1: dancing terribly, except for Hillary, who's really Ruby, and she

1866
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: danced for him. She put on the show.

1867
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did in them heels in the hills.

1868
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: She even did.

1869
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 2: That's what Ruby would do. She loves shit like.

1870
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 1: That and She even did like the little step at

1871
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: the end, like where she's trying.

1872
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: To move to be like why boy blue blah blah

1873
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 2: blah bamboon.

1874
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 1: And like they was like and they was given the

1875
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 1: whitest compliments. Yes, they was with the rhythm in those hips.

1876
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 1: She's ready for the colored version.

1877
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:48,960
Speaker 2: You see her moving on.

1878
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 1: The ones in threes. Girl, you're ready for her.

1879
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Minsas Soul Comedy Hour, we need to get you on

1880
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 2: the show.

1881
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 3: They need to go ahead and get you ready for

1882
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:00,719
Speaker 3: the mistress, your girlfriend.

1883
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: You could do a whole episode of Soul Train with them.

1884
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: Two steps she just did. And then they shifted talking

1885
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 1: about their favorite pastime for bonding as white women, which

1886
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,839
Speaker 1: is hating on the blacks.

1887
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:16,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

1888
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 1: And so they was like, you know what, I'll tell

1889
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 1: you what. I don't need no more of black employees.

1890
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 1: You see that little girl out there, I hate her.

1891
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:29,679
Speaker 2: And then, uh, why they're not doing their jobs?

1892
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Hillary slash Ruby says, well, if they do hire some

1893
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: more black people, I just hope they qualified. And the

1894
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: white woman was like, of course they not qualified. They negroes,

1895
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: they black, what do you expect? Right? And then and

1896
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: then Hillary that took all the rhythm out of her dance.

1897
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,840
Speaker 1: She had her back to them, and you can see

1898
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 1: her face because she's still ruby inside. It just went

1899
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,280
Speaker 1: to like blank anger, like the fuck you just say?

1900
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: But she can't say anything.

1901
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 2: He'll break her thing.

1902
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: And part of what the day she's been playing as

1903
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 1: a white woman is not being too concerned with black

1904
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 1: people in black causes. You can't be a race warrior.

1905
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: You can't be like y'all, lay off a timor.

1906
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 2: Because people are beginning to be suspicious of you.

1907
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 1: Right, So she still played it kind of safe and

1908
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 1: fit in by being aloof towards it even when she disagreed,

1909
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: which reminded me very much of the fact that fifty

1910
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: three percent of white women voted for Donald Trump, which

1911
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: is people always say that number like it's this really big,

1912
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 1: damning number, and I do think it is a fuck

1913
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 1: up number. Block, don't get me wrong, But what I

1914
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 1: think about is forty percent of white women do not

1915
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 1: fuck with Donald Trump, and they are much they are

1916
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: so quiet, Yes they are now. They may not be

1917
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: as quiet now, but in twenty sixteen, they had a

1918
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: private Facebook group called sou pass Nation, which means they

1919
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 1: wanted to support this woman, but not to pay the

1920
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: social penalty of supporting this woman. And so the same

1921
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 1: thing goes back to this, Not every white woman is

1922
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: some fucking died in the wool.

1923
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,719
Speaker 2: I hate the Niggers racist person.

1924
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: There's a lot of white people that no shit is wrong,

1925
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: no shit is fucked up. They ain't made it all

1926
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: the way to like, you know, uh, slave abolition or

1927
01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck, you know, like they not ready to

1928
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,440
Speaker 1: die for but they are like damn.

1929
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: Like damn people too, God, damn Yeah.

1930
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: Can't y'all lay all like why we gotta be talking

1931
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,080
Speaker 1: about racism all the time. And that's what it reminded

1932
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: me of is that Ruby became that type of white

1933
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 1: woman to fit in.

1934
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 2: Where she was.

1935
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: She never said anything toward or fucked up towards black

1936
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:38,280
Speaker 1: people necessarily, but she still never stood up for any

1937
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: of the black people other than tepidly right. So uh

1938
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: and and honestly, she didn't really like Tamra no no.

1939
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 3: And also to go back to uh, when Tamor had

1940
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:56,520
Speaker 3: told her about her education and things like that, Uh,

1941
01:41:56,560 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 3: and the way we responded, Ruby was responding as a

1942
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 3: black woman even though she was white.

1943
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 2: Because Ruby, as.

1944
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 3: A black woman, looked down on that woman, like, like

1945
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:08,120
Speaker 3: a lot of people go, oh, that's the no, No,

1946
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 3: that was that was really Ruby.

1947
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: Ruby has respectability.

1948
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: And now, obviously this is nineteen fifty two, some of

1949
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,639
Speaker 1: y'all hear respectability, and because it's twenty twenty and you've

1950
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: been in these online circles, yeah, yeah, you know you

1951
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 1: think it's a mark on someone's character. Because I brought

1952
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 1: this up on Twitter, and of course most people understood

1953
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: exactly what I meant, but a couple people like, well,

1954
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: it's not that she probably was like this woman only

1955
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,640
Speaker 1: got hired because she's more prettier than me, And I

1956
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think so.

1957
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 2: Ruby's a very pretty person.

1958
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 1: And nothing about this show so far has seemed to

1959
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: center around like, well, people don't find her attracted right

1960
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: now if they want to put those beats in the

1961
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 1: narrative or they want to play it out, but this

1962
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: show is not a very subtle show. So I feel

1963
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: like if that was the issue, they would say that

1964
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 1: was the issue. Yes, if they were like, people don't

1965
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: find Ruby attractive, that would become a thing. If they

1966
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: wanted to say it's because Leddy's light skin and Ruby's no,

1967
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: I think they would just say it. I don't think

1968
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 1: this is a show where they would skirt around.

1969
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 2: That and be like, well they'll pick it up by

1970
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 2: episode ten.

1971
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,559
Speaker 1: No, this show pretty much tells you straight up on

1972
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 1: like message, this is racism, message, This is that right.

1973
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: So I really do think and now let's talk about

1974
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 1: what they have put in the show. I think Ruby is,

1975
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, one of those bougie kind of looked down

1976
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: on other black people at the party when they were

1977
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 1: playing cards before the cross burning, she said to the

1978
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 1: other people, if more I'm gonna go get this job

1979
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: in Marshall Fils, And if more black people thought like me,

1980
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 1: they would be a credit to the race, like we

1981
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: would be better off as a people, which is implying

1982
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 1: most black people, or not enough black people think like Ruby,

1983
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: which is go get a job. It's not like she

1984
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: said some old like revolutionary shit like it was just

1985
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,120
Speaker 1: go get a job, which implies you niggas don't want jobs,

1986
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,840
Speaker 1: you niggas don't want to work hard, you niggas don't

1987
01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: want to be educated, you know that type of thing.

1988
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she even looked down on her sister because,

1989
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,600
Speaker 3: as far as she was concerned, her sister didn't have

1990
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 3: the right type of job. You know, her sister wasn't

1991
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 3: doing the right type of thing, you know, because it

1992
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,719
Speaker 3: sounded like Letty was probably some form of an activist

1993
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 3: or something like that. And so to her sister, she's like,

1994
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 3: that ain't no real job. You're not trying. That's why

1995
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 3: you gotta always call me and ask me for money

1996
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 3: and shit, because you ain't got no real job.

1997
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's yeah, there's a lot going on with

1998
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 1: her and her sister. But that's the thing it made

1999
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 1: me think about specifically, like, oh wait, there's Ruby has

2000
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of been a hearty tatia the rest of you

2001
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 1: niggas type of black person.

2002
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 2: And it was coming out even when.

2003
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: She like she would seem to be more upset that

2004
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: that type of black person was able to get that

2005
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: type of job.

2006
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 2: Correct, you know what I mean, Like why not?

2007
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: Why it should have been me? And then when she

2008
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 1: found out that white.

2009
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 2: People do not, no, they don't. They don't see qualifications.

2010
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: They see skin color. You're disqualified for your skin color.

2011
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: So all this, like, you know, this hierarchy she had

2012
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: in her brain didn't really matter to these white people. Now,

2013
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: it didn't stop her from immediately like kind of resenting Temera,

2014
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: but I think it put a lot of stuff into

2015
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 1: perspective that Oh no, the hurdle is even bigger than

2016
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 1: you think. Like, whiteness is not a skin color, it

2017
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: is a mentality.

2018
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 2: Yes it is.

2019
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: And if you do not carry out that mentality, if

2020
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: you do not exist in that mentality, then you get

2021
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:40,440
Speaker 1: ostracized or at least alienated from the whiteness that people participated.

2022
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 2: And I think Ruby was definitely.

2023
01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,600
Speaker 1: Feeling that pressure from the other white people, like I

2024
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 1: have a decision to make I have to basically become

2025
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: mentally or play the part of these people that I hate,

2026
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna be able to skate by on

2027
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 1: just I'm a white woman. I'm a political I think

2028
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 1: everyone should have a chance and no, no, And I'm

2029
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 1: also not gonna get to be Ruby, which is well,

2030
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: I don't like Tamor because she's not qualified, not because

2031
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 1: she's black. That's not They're gonna be like she's black,

2032
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 1: it wouldn't matter. She's a fucking secretary of State. She's black,

2033
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 1: she shouldn't have a job. Meanwhile, she's doing all our

2034
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: jobs for us, right. Also, I thought it was funny too,

2035
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 1: And this is another white thing. Oh, we work so

2036
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: hard while they're backstage just.

2037
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 2: Goofing the fuck off for thirty minutes. They should give

2038
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 2: us it for free, that entitlement, you know.

2039
01:46:31,160 --> 01:46:34,000
Speaker 1: And it's what I talked about with Jessica Krug and

2040
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 1: Rachel those out. I'm like, they get shipped, They get

2041
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: shited done when they pretend to be black. Yes they do,

2042
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, because when they pretend to be black, like,

2043
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: they still have the ambitions of whiteness.

2044
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: Yes, not understand how whiteness works. They still have that greed.

2045
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 2: They still want it all, you know.

2046
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Ruby's whiteness moved that potion was supposed to be

2047
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 1: her access to power in the world.

2048
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 2: She didn't dream, he couldn't only dream up and guess

2049
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 2: what she went and did, got a goddamn job. Gotta

2050
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 2: got some ice cream in a job, right.

2051
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 3: The nigga gave her a fucking wide full of money,

2052
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:09,839
Speaker 3: and she was like, bitch, I just want to work.

2053
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 2: Read a newspaper.

2054
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,439
Speaker 1: All she wanted to be was left alone to achieve

2055
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 1: her just peace. Not She didn't want to become the

2056
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 1: fuck I'm gonna own the department store. It was just

2057
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: I want to be a regular, like a regular white

2058
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 1: woman I see on the street looking unbothered because her thing.

2059
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 3: Is lot of they don't want to blend in. White

2060
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 3: people come over here on outside, they're like, I won't

2061
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 3: take it all.

2062
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 2: You're like, the fuck is this?

2063
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 1: So? Yeah, then when they uh oh, they asked her

2064
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 1: basically like, oh, you know, we should do speaking of niggers. Uh,

2065
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: let's ask Tamara to take us to the south Side.

2066
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 1: And they're all like, ooh, it's so scary with those people,

2067
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 1: those blacks. You know, we can go down there and Hillary,

2068
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, once again breaking character as Ruby goes, Yeah,

2069
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 1: the south Side has nothing to be scared of.

2070
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 3: This.

2071
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 1: It's just basically she knows that she's lived. It's just

2072
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 1: black people living.

2073
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 3: It's not there's nothing exotic about it.

2074
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like and they're like you've been Oh you brave girl, girl.

2075
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 2: What was it like and what was it like in

2076
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 2: the jungle?

2077
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,640
Speaker 1: It was like Nigga's going to work, you know.

2078
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:28,240
Speaker 2: Uh so and so lives. They're like, we have to

2079
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 2: get Tamor to take us.

2080
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: And since you're the one that talks to Tamra, maybe

2081
01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 1: you can convince it to take us. And so they

2082
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: go outside, uh, after work, Tamra. No one really talks

2083
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: to Tamor, who's kind of ahead of everybody, uh and

2084
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: the only black person there. And Hillary does kind of

2085
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: look at Tamra and it makes me think, like, damn,

2086
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: that's the two black people at work. And it reminds

2087
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 1: me of how we a lot of black people feel

2088
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,000
Speaker 1: about having that black manager in corporate America, where you're

2089
01:48:55,000 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: like this nigga hard don't meaning new white people, right,

2090
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: because she really has singled her out, and she didn't

2091
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 1: sing out any of those white women. Those white women

2092
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,600
Speaker 1: were back there goofing the fuck off and she just

2093
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:08,479
Speaker 1: joined them. Meanwhile, she knew Temper was being overworked and

2094
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 1: it would have just been her if it would have switched,

2095
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:12,960
Speaker 1: and she would have got the job she felt she

2096
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: quote unquote deserved. They would have been thinking she was

2097
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 1: the nigger. They would have been thinking you better get

2098
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 1: back here and put my shoes up. It was not

2099
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: the dream she thought it was gonna be anyway. But

2100
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: waiting outside of the department store is William in a

2101
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 1: baby blue nice car, some shades on, looking looking like.

2102
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 2: A nineteen fifty two men's.

2103
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: Issu, looking like a snack Okay, looking like on a

2104
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: cup of odes, looking like a little Debbi is of

2105
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 1: what they had back then. You look like a snack, okay.

2106
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 1: And so he was like they you know, all the

2107
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 1: ladies that worked there was like who is that? And

2108
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: he's like, oh hey, honey, And he does that thing

2109
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: with the shades that you know people do where they

2110
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: look down the shades pulled them back up, and she

2111
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: he goes to kiss Hillary, who turns her mouth away

2112
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 1: and gets kissed on the cheek instead of the mouth,

2113
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: and he notices that, and the ladies of course all swoon,

2114
01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, just you can hear his flush in the alleyway.

2115
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,559
Speaker 1: And then she's like, you shouldn't have came here, and

2116
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: he was like, well, that doesn't look like I embarrassed you,

2117
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: because it does look like everybody was impressed. She was

2118
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 1: with him, and then he asked about like, how's your

2119
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: first day your dream job? And I thought, damn, this

2120
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 1: is only day one, you know, like I feel like

2121
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: we had, you know, the first day when she woke

2122
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: up and couldn't get her legs under. Then we had

2123
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 1: the day when she you know, went out and had

2124
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: the perfect ice cream.

2125
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:56,759
Speaker 2: Day three is a white woman assistant manager, not bad

2126
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 2: come up.

2127
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: Okay, it's like that game they played Blitz and Chips

2128
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:04,559
Speaker 1: and Rick and Morty when.

2129
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:09,880
Speaker 2: You get yeah, you get to live out with your life. Well,

2130
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,960
Speaker 2: you kind of wasted your thirties and your forties, right.

2131
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: So so she she uh So. Then basically William and

2132
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 1: her have like a little bit of a discussion where

2133
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:26,840
Speaker 1: he's like, well, look it's time for you to owe

2134
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 1: me that that favor. Don't take no more of that potion.

2135
01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 1: And he notices you didn't, like you didn't want me

2136
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 1: to kiss you as Hillary? Why not?

2137
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:37,200
Speaker 2: And she's like, did you want to kiss me as Hillary?

2138
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 1: And he goes, I want whatever you want, which to

2139
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,799
Speaker 1: me was like this nigga is not to be trusted.

2140
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,040
Speaker 1: That's another full of shit answer.

2141
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 3: Oh and uh, while it's on my mind, and not

2142
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 3: to get off topic, but I wanted to go back

2143
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 3: to when she dropped that potent potion and that dude

2144
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 3: owned it. I think that's gonna come back up at

2145
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 3: some period of time. Okay, I don't think she dropped

2146
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 3: that for no reason, Like somebody's going to find it.

2147
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 2: Somebody's going to be like, what's this.

2148
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna take it, like like something's going to happen

2149
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 3: because she didn't even realize she dropped it.

2150
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:19,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, could be man, because they definitely don't like tie

2151
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: that up. We don't like we see he gets it,

2152
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: but then we never see her get it, you know.

2153
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 1: But my thing is if he thinks it's a if

2154
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 1: he thinks it's a perfume, yeah, he might think it's

2155
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 1: a purpose.

2156
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 2: Like I wonder if.

2157
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: He'd even put those two together, you know what I'm saying,

2158
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 1: or someone puts those two together that you know that

2159
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: this is a potion and not a perfume. Because we'll

2160
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 1: get to it at the end.

2161
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously something happens.

2162
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, something happened that that gives you a chance to

2163
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: be like something was more than it meets to our her,

2164
01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: you know. But but yeah, I mean you're absolutely right,

2165
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,759
Speaker 1: Like it's we never get the scene of her getting

2166
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: that back, so we know it's just out there.

2167
01:52:57,840 --> 01:52:58,839
Speaker 2: Uh So then.

2168
01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 1: He says, don't drink that potion. I'm gonna need that.

2169
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need that favor of the night. Also, there's

2170
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: a box in the back seat with your name all

2171
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: over it. And she opens up the box and it's

2172
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: a maid uniform and she is pissed. Yes, and I

2173
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,480
Speaker 1: have to give this white lady props because that actress

2174
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:29,080
Speaker 1: she channeled Ruby, didn't she oh, man like she uh

2175
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: chant on Ruby the right, Like, no, you didn't, because

2176
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 1: that's the other thing. When he asked how she enjoyed

2177
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: her first day, she said, what's better than being some

2178
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:46,840
Speaker 1: damn charwoman? Well, charwoman is a woman that cooks and

2179
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 1: cleans and dude made stuff. So this outfit when he

2180
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:52,759
Speaker 1: opened it up, was a fucking made outfit.

2181
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 2: So she explains the face.

2182
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Yes, she was a meeting, like, man, what the fuck

2183
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: this is?

2184
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 2: This is the this is the help you say you

2185
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 2: need for me? Because Ruby's whole thing is what's the catch,

2186
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: what's the catch? What's the catch? So then.

2187
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 1: Uh we see Ruby working the party in that as

2188
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 1: a waitress and this and the.

2189
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 2: Thing is the thing that made me left.

2190
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 3: The whole time, nobody paid Ruby any fucking attention because

2191
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 3: she had the stinkness of the stink ass face and

2192
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 3: they was like.

2193
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 2: Sure you want our drm that was just picked.

2194
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 3: I was like, y'all not watching this woman face. She

2195
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 3: looks like she would could let it take a take

2196
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 3: one of these two picks and stab y'all niggas, and

2197
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 3: nobody's paying her no attention.

2198
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: They could not be less interested in whatever.

2199
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 1: Was going on.

2200
01:54:42,160 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 3: She was walking around like she would just like slam

2201
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 3: the train to the ground if she could.

2202
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 1: They could not. They were just looking like, ma'am, if

2203
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: you don't have me a motherfucking cocktail, weenie and get

2204
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 1: to push it in and keep moving, ain't nobody talking

2205
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 1: to your ass?

2206
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 2: Because basically was invisible to them.

2207
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,160
Speaker 1: And honestly, at that point, if a white man did

2208
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 1: know that she was a black woman, they probably wasn't

2209
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: gonna be a good thing.

2210
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 2: Oh come on, uh.

2211
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, So.

2212
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 2: She was pissed and she's giving out stuff.

2213
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: Captain Lancaster is there because this party is at the

2214
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 1: lounge that Christina went to last week, and he told

2215
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: her to get out, and so she goes in the kitchen.

2216
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: Christina's out back, knocks on the window and she's like

2217
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,080
Speaker 1: a Ruby's got an attitude of her too.

2218
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 2: She's like, you were supposed to be here an hour ago,

2219
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,360
Speaker 2: and like I've been doing this bullshit for nothing. Christina's

2220
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 2: like William does, like a demanding woman. She says, well,

2221
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 2: look here's this rock.

2222
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: It's like a talisman with an eye on it, and

2223
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 1: she's like, put this in the police captain's office.

2224
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 3: And I might be wrong, but that I look like

2225
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 3: the same eye that takes on that paper.

2226
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:52,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it does.

2227
01:55:53,200 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 1: And so Ruby declines, but Christina says, listen, do you

2228
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:03,959
Speaker 1: care about William at all? Because you know, Ruby declines

2229
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 1: like nigga the police captain. I'm not fucking with no police.

2230
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm in my black ass skin.

2231
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 2: I will go to jail.

2232
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: And she's like, Christina's like, no, Ruby, William got done wrong.

2233
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 1: He was shot in the back, thrown in the river,

2234
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 1: left for dead. I nursed him back to health. And

2235
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: this captain believes he murdered William and stole his birthright

2236
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 1: to this lodge.

2237
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 2: He's the right for air to it, and will you

2238
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 2: help him get his revenge?

2239
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:34,839
Speaker 1: And it is that motivation that does it for Ruby,

2240
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,960
Speaker 1: the revenge motives, which I think is important here.

2241
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 2: And she goes like okay, and then she.

2242
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,120
Speaker 1: Takes it, sneaks into the office, puts the talisman in

2243
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 1: the desk drawer of the captain. And I wonder if

2244
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: there's a power, because since it says I, it seems

2245
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be able to see what's going on

2246
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: in his office or something.

2247
01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 3: Ye possibly here's gonna know my I might be wrong

2248
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:01,760
Speaker 3: bop prediction.

2249
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 2: You know, kind of like those mirrors.

2250
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 3: You remember how they could look in there and they

2251
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:09,840
Speaker 3: could see a lady and uh tick and George, it's

2252
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 3: gonna I think it's gonna be something to that nature

2253
01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 3: where she's gonna be able to even though I'm not.

2254
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 2: Here, I can still see what's.

2255
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 3: Happening in the atmosphere, right so, and or be able

2256
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:22,879
Speaker 3: to fuck with him too.

2257
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 2: Right so?

2258
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: Then, uh, while she's in there, she hears the moaning

2259
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 1: from the closet that the same moaning Christina heard, and

2260
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: she goes to look into the closet and opens it

2261
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: and there's a man bleeding out his mouth who clearly

2262
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,480
Speaker 1: like is a very gross site. He must stink, because

2263
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 1: she covers her mouth immediately, and then like he's got

2264
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 1: cuts and like he's been being tortured or something, and

2265
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, like this is not good. Okay,

2266
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 1: it looks like Montross is the only one living in

2267
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 1: the closet.

2268
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 3: It looked like Frankenstide out those stitches.

2269
01:58:13,760 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was fucked up. Like whatever they've been doing

2270
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 1: to him. They've been doing for a while. And so

2271
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: then the captain comes in and he's got his underlings

2272
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:28,240
Speaker 1: with him and he's pissed and he's like, I'm out

2273
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 1: here dancing like a monkey for a ring, and I'm

2274
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 1: thinking he must want one of those rings, like tick got.

2275
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, because Christina was like, I don't remember

2276
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:38,840
Speaker 3: you ever being initiated.

2277
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,520
Speaker 1: Right, And he's trying to impress these old people in

2278
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:44,120
Speaker 1: the coat or whatever to get them the you know,

2279
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 1: glad that to get moved into the coat and get

2280
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 1: some power, I guess. And he's like, go give me

2281
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: a shirt from the closet and he's like, I'm sweating

2282
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:53,800
Speaker 1: like a fucking.

2283
01:58:53,680 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 2: Pig or some shit. And something was up with his skin,

2284
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say.

2285
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 1: What was it, Karen, I do not I do not know.

2286
01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have a theory.

2287
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: I think he got black skin, like a black body

2288
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: or something like a Negro, because it was this big

2289
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,160
Speaker 1: black like it looked like it was almost Frankenstein on

2290
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 1: to him, like it was ditched on or something. And

2291
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's from that scientist here on Epstein

2292
01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 1: that he that he knows or you know, you knew

2293
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,280
Speaker 1: who did experiments, Like if that was one of the experiments,

2294
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 1: like maybe he got injured or something or whatever and

2295
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 1: they use a black body to heal, like to patch

2296
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: him up or some shit.

2297
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it didn't make any sense, and I was like,

2298
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: there's something crawling over his skin? Why does his skin

2299
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't, by the way, it wasn't crawling, y'all. Just

2300
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:40,360
Speaker 2: I just want to be clear.

2301
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:41,160
Speaker 1: I watched it twice.

2302
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh, no problem. But for me, I'm from what I see,

2303
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:45,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, there's something wrong with his skin.

2304
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 2: It was never something wrong.

2305
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 1: But the thing is he took his shirt off in

2306
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 1: front of other dudes who didn't seem to even be like,

2307
01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 1: oh god, you got black body under there. They seem

2308
01:59:53,680 --> 01:59:56,480
Speaker 1: to be fine with it. Yeah, Like what in the

2309
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:57,880
Speaker 1: get out is going on with.

2310
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 2: That man's chest? I don't know.

2311
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: Uh. But then they talk also about, uh, like did

2312
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: you handle that business in Kentucky And they're like, yeah,

2313
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 1: we convinced it for local police that the Winthrop Observatory

2314
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: needed to be protected from local vandals, and it's like,

2315
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: good job. And I'm like, so there's a Winthrop Observatory

2316
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,920
Speaker 1: now Winthrop is what they called a house, the Winthrop House.

2317
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 2: Winthrop was also a person that was in that uh,

2318
02:00:23,960 --> 02:00:25,960
Speaker 2: the Sons of Adam Adam or whatever they call that,

2319
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 2: the Order of Adam.

2320
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:34,760
Speaker 1: And we know that he had some pages too, So

2321
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: he says, uh, that bleeding count Christina wants to oray,

2322
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 1: we'll let her bring it right to us because we

2323
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 1: know what she's looking for. And then the closet man meanwhile,

2324
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:48,520
Speaker 1: he's getting louder and then and and that means and

2325
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:50,760
Speaker 1: that makes one of the people ask about him, like, hey,

2326
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 1: so za done had as he dropped the dominant location

2327
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: of the lootie stove and they're like, nah, but.

2328
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 2: We're working on it. We're getting there.

2329
02:00:58,880 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: And uh, she's covering his mouth so he can't get loud.

2330
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 1: There's a couple of like little scares or whatever.

2331
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 3: And you know, it's one of those things where I

2332
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 3: was like, is this man? Did he die and they

2333
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 3: brought him back to life? Like, you know, did they

2334
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 3: do experiments on him?

2335
02:01:15,320 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's weird because if I thought they

2336
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: were torturing him for the location of something.

2337
02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:21,560
Speaker 2: But I was like, he don't sound like he could talk.

2338
02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand.

2339
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 1: I think they cut his tongue out. That's why he

2340
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 1: was bleeding so much from his mouth. Also, Ruby brings

2341
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:33,400
Speaker 1: it up later. But the other thing too, is like

2342
02:01:33,760 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 1: the scene just kind of ends or whatever, but like

2343
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:41,280
Speaker 1: it was just more scary that they did.

2344
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 2: I remember they did say he was dead. Yes, that

2345
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:44,160
Speaker 2: makes sense.

2346
02:01:44,200 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 3: I remember somebody was like talk about how you know,

2347
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:48,400
Speaker 3: he might be dead, but we could still get it

2348
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:49,400
Speaker 3: out of him or something like that.

2349
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:52,280
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I remember that phrase. Well, they also

2350
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:55,440
Speaker 1: said his tongue was cut out and it was definitely bleeding. Now,

2351
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 1: the thing I thought was weird is that he kind

2352
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 1: of seemed like he was trying to get their attention,

2353
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,400
Speaker 1: So like what kind of spell they put on them then,

2354
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,680
Speaker 1: like reanimate them and now he y'all slave or something?

2355
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 2: I don't And like, if so, why y'all had to

2356
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 2: cut him up so bad? And I think a lot

2357
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 2: of this goes back to that scientist dude mm hmm, yeah,

2358
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,440
Speaker 2: here on Epstein's experiments.

2359
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 1: So then as Hillary Ruby's back at work, this is

2360
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:26,920
Speaker 1: now like the fourth day, I believe, So as Hillary

2361
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 1: Ruby is back at work and she is fussing over

2362
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 1: Tamra putting the shoot wrong shoes by.

2363
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 2: The wrong dresses once again, you know.

2364
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: And now this I think her obsession with Tamra was

2365
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 1: also partially at this point almost she wanted to help

2366
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: her to a certain extent. I don't think it was

2367
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:53,400
Speaker 1: just like she now knows Tamra's plight and how these

2368
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:57,240
Speaker 1: white people really feel about all black people. So she

2369
02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 1: and she's seen some shit now magic and fucking dead

2370
02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:03,960
Speaker 1: zombie people with no tongues in closets, and so she

2371
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:06,280
Speaker 1: kind of loses it. She gets kind of loud in

2372
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 1: the things. She's like, Uh, you gotta put this right

2373
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 1: shoes of this because we're trying to you got to

2374
02:03:11,120 --> 02:03:12,160
Speaker 1: make it please it to the eyes.

2375
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:13,600
Speaker 2: And then Tamor goes.

2376
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 1: Not to be disrespectful, but I'm doing my best here, ma'am,

2377
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 1: And she goes, well, you have to do better if

2378
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 1: you want to get be a credit to your race.

2379
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 1: What's another thing another time she said that, y'all, if

2380
02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:27,200
Speaker 1: you want to be a credit to your race, you

2381
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 1: have to be better than mediocre. And you want to

2382
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: know why, because white folks are more fucked up thing

2383
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 1: you think they are. Yes, she was laughing at them too.

2384
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: Then white people turn around, like who is she talking

2385
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:36,920
Speaker 1: to that?

2386
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:39,800
Speaker 3: There wasn't no music playing or anything in the fancy

2387
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 3: department stores.

2388
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:43,280
Speaker 2: Right, Like she's trying to help, but she still true

2389
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 2: to the character of Ruby.

2390
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 1: Like I like it. They didn't just be like and

2391
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: then she magically understood respectability with some bullshit.

2392
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, not in nineteen fifty two, come not after

2393
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 2: one day?

2394
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 1: Hell no anyway, So she was like that's She was like,

2395
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 1: uh damn shit, you can't even imagine. That's why you

2396
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 1: have to be expert initally better than them so you

2397
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 1: don't end up in some closet half dead with your

2398
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 1: tongue cut off.

2399
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 2: And before she can finish that, Paul walks up, like

2400
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 2: what's going on? Like this white fucked up more than

2401
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 2: you think she was.

2402
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 1: She was trying to help girl to be back there,

2403
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 1: trying to make you take them to pause town. Oh

2404
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 1: wait is Paul? And so she turned around. Paul was

2405
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 1: like everything okay, people are staring and shit, and she

2406
02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 1: was like, uh, Hillary's like, well, Tamara was just saying

2407
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:29,000
Speaker 1: how she was gonna take us to the south Side.

2408
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: And Tamara goes along with the lie.

2409
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:32,400
Speaker 2: But what choice does she have?

2410
02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 1: This white woman lied and you can't be like I

2411
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't say that, so you gotta do take them. And

2412
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:40,800
Speaker 1: this white woman was being kind of bossy towards you

2413
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:46,520
Speaker 1: in a bit of hostile So at the Denmark Vessi Bar,

2414
02:04:47,360 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: the whites are taken into local Negro scenery with some music.

2415
02:04:52,120 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 1: One white girl was looking around at the brothers like

2416
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 1: she was ready to a scene for black dot com.

2417
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 2: Yes, and people look like white.

2418
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't even look like into it because they

2419
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 1: I think they just understood the stress of like if

2420
02:05:06,400 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 1: something happens to these white people, or these white people

2421
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 1: decide they can fuck up everything.

2422
02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah that this was just one of those things with

2423
02:05:13,640 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 3: this is our space and any white person's presence just

2424
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,880
Speaker 3: fuck up the atmosphere. Yeah, it wasn't like a vibe

2425
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 3: like oh yeah man, Like it wasn't like the first

2426
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:24,800
Speaker 3: time we seen the place.

2427
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 1: Not yeah, not just that. But it wasn't a vibe

2428
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 1: of like, oh, cool white people.

2429
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 2: It was like here come these crackers.

2430
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:34,880
Speaker 1: Here they go. I guess like even when she looked

2431
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: at the brothers, they didn't look into it, Like it

2432
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like oh shit, white woman alert.

2433
02:05:39,640 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 2: It was like go with this white woman won't please

2434
02:05:42,760 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 2: Lord Jesus. You know, I think I'm a call of

2435
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:46,400
Speaker 2: the night.

2436
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 1: Right, And so then they all want to get up

2437
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:53,840
Speaker 1: and like dance and all this shit. Uh, Tamera looks

2438
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:57,960
Speaker 1: nervous drinking with the with their coworkers, basically taking a

2439
02:05:58,000 --> 02:05:59,080
Speaker 1: shot and sip some wiles.

2440
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,640
Speaker 3: She's like, I'm here, but I can't even quote unquote

2441
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:04,280
Speaker 3: be myself because y'all here, right, they all get up there,

2442
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:06,240
Speaker 3: and plus we don't know Tammor that might not even

2443
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 3: be her scene, like Tamor might be a church girl,

2444
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 3: this one like, right, you never know.

2445
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:15,520
Speaker 1: Ruby's lie as Hillary Ruby's lie put Tamar in this

2446
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 1: fucked up position. You see what I'm saying. They would

2447
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 1: have not asked her if it wasn't for that, because

2448
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:23,960
Speaker 1: they were so busy on shunning her and not talking

2449
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 1: to her and making her do all their work. They

2450
02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: never would have gotten to know her to even be like, hey,

2451
02:06:28,320 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 1: can you take us out? But when she used that

2452
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: as an alibi, excuse or distraction or whatever, she actually

2453
02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: put her in this fucked up position of having.

2454
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:37,600
Speaker 2: To deal with whiteness in this space.

2455
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:42,200
Speaker 1: Agreed, And so then Hillary says she doesn't want to

2456
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 1: dance she'll get with the rest of them. And then

2457
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:45,840
Speaker 1: we have a slow mo shot of her kind of

2458
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 1: looking at them, dancing with the black people and seeing

2459
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 1: like the complexity of them being genuinely repulsed.

2460
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:57,760
Speaker 2: And racist. It behind the back storeroom.

2461
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 1: But then here they are take and in this exotic

2462
02:07:01,080 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: culture and cuisine and and and touring this this racial

2463
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:10,600
Speaker 1: tourism they were doing. Love us, they want to be us,

2464
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:13,440
Speaker 1: but they hate us, you know, And we want to

2465
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 1: be them, but we hate them to some extent as

2466
02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:19,000
Speaker 1: far as America goes, and the rights that we would

2467
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 1: like to have.

2468
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:22,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because I love.

2469
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 1: I do too, but you know, you know what I mean.

2470
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 1: So then they so they she goes outside and she

2471
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:34,400
Speaker 1: doesn't take the next DECI potion.

2472
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:38,920
Speaker 2: She she goes ahead and starts transforming back into.

2473
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:42,720
Speaker 3: Ruby and the first Yeah, this is the first time

2474
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 3: we ever see her.

2475
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 2: Truly. The special effects were so great.

2476
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,720
Speaker 1: It was like they when they really got because earlier

2477
02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:52,440
Speaker 1: we saw, like when they did the first transformation, we

2478
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,160
Speaker 1: see little stuff like there was an eye in the

2479
02:07:54,200 --> 02:07:56,320
Speaker 1: back of her throat, which is gross and all this stuff,

2480
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 1: but this one it was it was totally like they

2481
02:08:00,080 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 1: went all the way there it's like watching the Hoholpe transform.

2482
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:05,640
Speaker 2: Now, keep in mind, the title of this episode is

2483
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 2: I think strange. Oh God, don't let me fuck this up.

2484
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 1: Let me scroll to the top of my notes. Strange Case,

2485
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:21,800
Speaker 1: which is also the title of the very famous book

2486
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:25,960
Speaker 1: and movie The Strange Case of Doctor Jekyl and Mister Hyde,

2487
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 1: which is all about a person taking a drug that

2488
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 1: transforms them, and then once they're transform they become an

2489
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 1: uninhibited monster. They have much less control and all this stuff.

2490
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 3: In the.

2491
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:46,040
Speaker 1: Mister Hide form, in the Doctor Jeckel form, of course,

2492
02:08:46,080 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're in control. And I think in

2493
02:08:49,080 --> 02:08:52,240
Speaker 1: a way, this episode is saying that whiteness is that

2494
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:54,000
Speaker 1: monster that mister Hide.

2495
02:08:54,360 --> 02:09:00,360
Speaker 2: The ability and the potential to have uncontrolled impost with

2496
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 2: no consequences is too alluring and monstrous.

2497
02:09:07,960 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: So uh the message, Sorry, didn't mean get too deep

2498
02:09:13,080 --> 02:09:18,280
Speaker 1: on y'all, but yeah, so, uh, she transformed, She basically

2499
02:09:18,360 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 1: reversed those offs. Okay, she the whiteness falls off, She's

2500
02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:27,360
Speaker 1: black again. Uh, and so then, uh, Tamra is trying

2501
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: to leave the party and Paul, this gentleman, this Rockford

2502
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,440
Speaker 1: painting man, this you know, this Americana.

2503
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 2: Two kids and uh and uh, two kids and a

2504
02:09:40,200 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 2: wife right in a puppy.

2505
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,200
Speaker 1: The mister they laughed when they said, could he be

2506
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:48,240
Speaker 1: a sexual predator of any kind? Well, he is coming

2507
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 1: on to Tamra and being like, let me basically like,

2508
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:55,600
Speaker 1: let me grab your pussy on some fucking Donald Trump

2509
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 1: ship talking about I heard your girls are sweet down

2510
02:09:58,520 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 1: there some ship like that, and she says, I don't

2511
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,840
Speaker 1: want to do this, and he's like, come on, and

2512
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 1: she scratches him and he lets her go and then

2513
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:10,320
Speaker 1: he goes nigger bitch when she runs off. And Ruby

2514
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 1: sees all this through a tiny through a hole in

2515
02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 1: the fence that we see her face covered in blood

2516
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:17,360
Speaker 1: and her eyes are you know.

2517
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 2: Of course lit, just angry, and he didn't know she's

2518
02:10:21,800 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 2: seen that.

2519
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:24,920
Speaker 1: Right later, back at the mansion, Ruby sitting on the

2520
02:10:24,960 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 1: couch holding the potion, just kind of like she's deciding

2521
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 1: if she's gonna drink it or not, and she puts

2522
02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 1: it up to her mouth she's about to drink it.

2523
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:37,320
Speaker 1: Christina comes in from the basement, and Christina doesn't even

2524
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:39,840
Speaker 1: seem that surprised that Ruby's there, even though she clearly

2525
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:43,240
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting her to be there, and she Ruby goes,

2526
02:10:43,440 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 1: why do y'all what do y'all have in the basement.

2527
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,840
Speaker 1: It's the only door in the house that's locked. You

2528
02:10:49,000 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 1: and William going and out of there all times of

2529
02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:55,640
Speaker 1: the day. And Christina sits next to her without answering

2530
02:10:55,680 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 1: her questions and goes, I guess Ruby got interrupted again,

2531
02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:05,720
Speaker 1: which Ruby never told Christina, And so Ruby says, he

2532
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:09,080
Speaker 1: told you that, like basically, like, how much is William

2533
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:09,680
Speaker 1: sharing with you?

2534
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:11,040
Speaker 2: Is any of this shit private?

2535
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 1: Right?

2536
02:11:11,880 --> 02:11:13,960
Speaker 2: Well, he definitely said we fucked you know?

2537
02:11:14,080 --> 02:11:15,760
Speaker 1: Did he say? I sucked this dick from the back?

2538
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:24,000
Speaker 1: So Christina says she's been where Ruby is before. But

2539
02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 1: Ruby says, please shut the fuck up. You can't relate

2540
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 1: to who I am. And I spend enough time on

2541
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 1: your side of the color line to know the only

2542
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 1: thing you white women are disillusioned with are yourselves. I'm like, girl,

2543
02:11:35,160 --> 02:11:36,120
Speaker 1: stop stealing from.

2544
02:11:36,040 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 2: Black Twitter, okay, stop stealing from the world.

2545
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 1: Stop if you don't get a medium piece and uh

2546
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:45,520
Speaker 1: medium logging and sell this shit.

2547
02:11:45,800 --> 02:11:49,360
Speaker 2: Put this behind a paywall, your patren charge for it.

2548
02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:52,200
Speaker 1: Don't give this away. That's too much.

2549
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:58,000
Speaker 2: Christina agrees and says, we want to be you. You

2550
02:11:58,120 --> 02:11:58,800
Speaker 2: want to be us.

2551
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:02,680
Speaker 1: But you misunderstud William's invitation. It's not to be white,

2552
02:12:03,160 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 1: it's an invitation to do whatever the fuck you want.

2553
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:11,680
Speaker 1: That's the currency of magic, unmitigated freedom. Who are you really? Uninterrupted?

2554
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 1: And in this moment, what it made me think of

2555
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:23,400
Speaker 1: is how Christina sees that magic and that metamorphosis as

2556
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:29,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to seize power. Ruby, having been a black

2557
02:12:29,080 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 1: woman whole life, obviously the magic shit is brand new

2558
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:36,160
Speaker 1: to her. She saw it as an opportunity to seize whiteness,

2559
02:12:36,200 --> 02:12:39,920
Speaker 1: because whiteness is power to her. But Christina, as a

2560
02:12:40,160 --> 02:12:42,840
Speaker 1: person that's already a white woman, She's like, there's something

2561
02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 1: beyond that, Like whiteness is not even the ultimate power.

2562
02:12:48,280 --> 02:12:51,720
Speaker 1: You're thinking too small like this, Like you're not doing

2563
02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:53,800
Speaker 1: whatever you want. You ain't got a fucking job, you

2564
02:12:53,880 --> 02:12:56,760
Speaker 1: ain't got ice cream, you ain't read the newspaper like

2565
02:12:56,880 --> 02:13:00,800
Speaker 1: you you're not really Like your shit is predictive, pedestrian

2566
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,960
Speaker 1: compared to the ambitions that I have, you know, like,

2567
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 1: because we know Christina's thinking of ways to live forever,

2568
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:10,960
Speaker 1: she's got spells where you can't harm her, Like you

2569
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Christina, don't take over the order, right,

2570
02:13:13,880 --> 02:13:17,520
Speaker 1: Christina's on some other other shit. You know, she's trying

2571
02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:19,760
Speaker 1: to translate this entire book so she can have all

2572
02:13:19,880 --> 02:13:23,600
Speaker 1: the magic in the world, correct and ruby. Meanwhile, it's like,

2573
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:26,320
Speaker 1: I would like to be able to read a book

2574
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:30,040
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't come up and bother me. And I

2575
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:32,080
Speaker 1: think that shit kind of hipped her the game, you

2576
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's also a big difference

2577
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 1: on how black people and how marginalized people and privileged.

2578
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 2: People look at power differently. Yes, we do because most.

2579
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,120
Speaker 1: Of our dreams are literally like I just want to

2580
02:13:44,120 --> 02:13:46,880
Speaker 1: do what I'm doing and no one com penalize me

2581
02:13:47,360 --> 02:13:51,720
Speaker 1: because I'm black, yes, or a woman we have I just.

2582
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:54,080
Speaker 2: Want to live like like like our go is lit.

2583
02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:56,720
Speaker 2: I want to live. I want to roof up of

2584
02:13:56,800 --> 02:13:57,160
Speaker 2: my head.

2585
02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 3: I want my family to be taken care of for

2586
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:01,120
Speaker 3: a lot, for a lot of us.

2587
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:03,960
Speaker 2: You know, my kids go to the best school.

2588
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:06,560
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to have to bury them

2589
02:14:06,600 --> 02:14:08,600
Speaker 3: because they ain't got shot by police officers.

2590
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 2: Our goals are small, all jokes aside, like the limit

2591
02:14:12,760 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 2: is a scot Yeah, we just we a lot of times.

2592
02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 2: We want basic shit. Yeah, the sky's a limit for them.

2593
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 2: The limit is a skoy for us, you know.

2594
02:14:19,520 --> 02:14:23,080
Speaker 1: And I just love that, JUSTI position, because you're looking

2595
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:27,480
Speaker 1: at two women that could be allies to a certain

2596
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:32,680
Speaker 1: extent and seeing that they see the world totally different,

2597
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:36,960
Speaker 1: you know, because I think Christina is also very amorl

2598
02:14:37,040 --> 02:14:39,320
Speaker 1: in this like and by which I mean, I don't

2599
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,680
Speaker 1: think Christina thinks of herself as like evil. I don't

2600
02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,880
Speaker 1: think she thinks of herself as harming or helping these people.

2601
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:48,040
Speaker 1: Everybody is a tool for her to get the ultimate

2602
02:14:48,120 --> 02:14:50,920
Speaker 1: power that she's looking for. So to her, it's just

2603
02:14:51,040 --> 02:14:54,920
Speaker 1: like you just a tool. But I'm not saying that

2604
02:14:55,080 --> 02:14:57,520
Speaker 1: in a you're less than me. I'm saying you're just

2605
02:14:57,600 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 1: a tool. Why aren't you using me as a tool.

2606
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:02,400
Speaker 1: Everyone's a tool to get what you want? So why

2607
02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:04,720
Speaker 1: aren't you, like, what do you really want? Because this

2608
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:10,320
Speaker 1: ain't it? So then Ruby goes back to Marshalls Fields

2609
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:13,320
Speaker 1: as Hillary, and she's in Paul's office and she quits

2610
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:17,880
Speaker 1: m H and she says she's quitting because she's attracted

2611
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:21,480
Speaker 1: to Paul and she can't more. She can't, you know,

2612
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:26,200
Speaker 1: while on the clock work there and fuck, his brain's

2613
02:15:26,240 --> 02:15:33,480
Speaker 1: out and Paul is like, fucking my brain's out. Well yeah, sure, uh,

2614
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 1: Dick is not your friend, okay. Like, and the thing is,

2615
02:15:39,480 --> 02:15:42,120
Speaker 1: Paul had checked her out when she first got the job,

2616
02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:44,920
Speaker 1: when she walked past him to get interview, definitely looked

2617
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:45,440
Speaker 1: at her butt.

2618
02:15:45,720 --> 02:15:47,640
Speaker 2: He kissed her hand, he hugged her so.

2619
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:50,000
Speaker 1: Like it felt to me. And this is such so

2620
02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:54,720
Speaker 1: interesting and I love this juxtaposition too. Paul was not

2621
02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 1: a sexual predator to those white ladies because he's not

2622
02:15:57,760 --> 02:16:00,160
Speaker 1: a sexual predator. He was not a sexual predit to

2623
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 1: those white women because they have agency. There was something

2624
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:05,040
Speaker 1: that could be done about it. It's not saying that

2625
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:08,120
Speaker 1: white women don't experience sexual predation at work or any

2626
02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:08,560
Speaker 1: of the stuff.

2627
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:11,120
Speaker 2: But there's a certain type of white man.

2628
02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:14,120
Speaker 1: Who has made a civil pact, who has made this

2629
02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:19,400
Speaker 1: He's accepted the gentlemanness that he needs to present around

2630
02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:23,280
Speaker 1: white ladies, like, no, these are white women to be respected.

2631
02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:25,400
Speaker 1: But remember what I told you last week. We were

2632
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:29,280
Speaker 1: talking about jazz by Tony Morrison and stuff, And it's

2633
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:31,040
Speaker 1: in a lot of books I read out of the

2634
02:16:31,080 --> 02:16:35,199
Speaker 1: House of Bondage by Tifolia Glymph, there was no type

2635
02:16:35,240 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 1: of black woman, a white man had to respect all

2636
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 1: of them were they had no agency. Right, I could

2637
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:46,600
Speaker 1: sexually assault you and there's nothing you can do about it.

2638
02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:50,840
Speaker 1: You may even get in trouble. I could. You can

2639
02:16:50,920 --> 02:16:51,720
Speaker 1: have my children.

2640
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't have to take care of them. Nope.

2641
02:16:54,400 --> 02:16:59,320
Speaker 1: I have no financial obligation to you. My children are

2642
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:02,720
Speaker 1: whatever race the mother is. So therefore I can be

2643
02:17:02,879 --> 02:17:06,720
Speaker 1: like those are niggers. I can be nice if I

2644
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:09,120
Speaker 1: want to. I'm not obligated to be nice. I'm not

2645
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:11,720
Speaker 1: legally binded by any of it.

2646
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:12,200
Speaker 2: Nop.

2647
02:17:12,440 --> 02:17:16,240
Speaker 1: So if I own you and you have a child

2648
02:17:16,560 --> 02:17:19,640
Speaker 1: from me, I own your child, you know. So this

2649
02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:24,400
Speaker 1: is so like this is the world not of necessarily

2650
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:27,880
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty two, but the world that this the the

2651
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 1: building blocks of this world are based in that world.

2652
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.

2653
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:37,439
Speaker 2: And so even when black women and black people.

2654
02:17:37,320 --> 02:17:41,560
Speaker 1: Were trying to make these strides in the segregated Red

2655
02:17:41,680 --> 02:17:45,600
Speaker 1: Line Chicago and these major cities coming from Jim Crow South,

2656
02:17:47,080 --> 02:17:50,240
Speaker 1: they still were dealing with this, you know, white men

2657
02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:55,400
Speaker 1: sexually propositioning like women of standing in the community, you know,

2658
02:17:55,760 --> 02:18:00,480
Speaker 1: and then of course the unfair, callous, disregardless black women

2659
02:18:00,560 --> 02:18:03,880
Speaker 1: saying all of them are prostitutes, you know, the over

2660
02:18:04,200 --> 02:18:06,360
Speaker 1: importance because that's where white people came to do their

2661
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:08,720
Speaker 1: crimes anyway. So hey, if I want to do drugs,

2662
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to the black neighborhood. And guess what this

2663
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:13,000
Speaker 1: turns into. Even though it's white people going there and

2664
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:16,480
Speaker 1: fueling the drug trade. Black people are drug addicts and

2665
02:18:16,640 --> 02:18:19,480
Speaker 1: drug dealers, and they're bad people, even though they would

2666
02:18:19,480 --> 02:18:22,000
Speaker 1: bringing the drugs into the community, right, drugs that I

2667
02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:24,920
Speaker 1: need to use. But I'm only gonna look down on you,

2668
02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:29,440
Speaker 1: not me, right, So same thing sexually, you know a

2669
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:32,640
Speaker 1: lot of times. So even though Tamor worked there, and

2670
02:18:32,800 --> 02:18:36,000
Speaker 1: this man would never even think to approach one of

2671
02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:37,400
Speaker 1: those white women disrespectfully.

2672
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 2: He never saw Timor that way.

2673
02:18:39,959 --> 02:18:41,840
Speaker 1: And the second that he got a chance to like

2674
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:46,480
Speaker 1: be outside of the job or whatever, he was like, yeah,

2675
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:50,000
Speaker 1: I can sexually violate you, and if you say something,

2676
02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:50,840
Speaker 1: you're nigger bitch.

2677
02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:53,640
Speaker 2: And Ruby witnessed that.

2678
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:54,440
Speaker 3: You know.

2679
02:18:55,040 --> 02:19:00,480
Speaker 2: And so she pullses or pulls his tie around his arms.

2680
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:03,400
Speaker 3: She was slowly doing some BDSM.

2681
02:19:03,520 --> 02:19:07,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he was getting what is it a belt

2682
02:19:07,480 --> 02:19:09,680
Speaker 2: around his neck. He got his hands bottled up. I

2683
02:19:09,800 --> 02:19:11,240
Speaker 2: was like, where's we going with this?

2684
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:15,000
Speaker 1: She pulls his pants down around his ankles, and then

2685
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:17,360
Speaker 1: she goes and sits down on a chair and makes

2686
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:20,880
Speaker 1: them suck on the heels of the naughty stiletto that

2687
02:19:21,080 --> 02:19:24,960
Speaker 1: she was wearing, and she says, you said you wanted

2688
02:19:24,959 --> 02:19:27,360
Speaker 1: to talk to me about something before, you know whatever.

2689
02:19:27,440 --> 02:19:29,760
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, I mean he could.

2690
02:19:29,640 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 2: Wait, it's time.

2691
02:19:30,360 --> 02:19:31,880
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, you know, we probably need

2692
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:34,760
Speaker 1: to fire Tamera. And I'm like, yeah, you tried to

2693
02:19:34,760 --> 02:19:37,039
Speaker 1: sexually assault her. Now you wanna get rid of the evidence.

2694
02:19:37,560 --> 02:19:39,640
Speaker 1: So this black woman that got this job here, that

2695
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:42,320
Speaker 1: was very fortunate and all this shit, she basically about

2696
02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:45,440
Speaker 1: to lose this job because you never really respected her anyway.

2697
02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:47,920
Speaker 1: And the truth is that could have been you, Ruby,

2698
02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:52,280
Speaker 1: because it is not This is not about Tamera's qualifications

2699
02:19:52,360 --> 02:19:56,160
Speaker 1: or lack of qualifications. It's just about her blackness and expendability.

2700
02:19:57,720 --> 02:19:58,720
Speaker 1: And so he.

2701
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:03,040
Speaker 2: And honestly, it puts you in danger to be the

2702
02:20:03,160 --> 02:20:05,400
Speaker 2: first black anything. Yes, it does.

2703
02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:11,560
Speaker 1: So he then licks the heel and Bodak Yellow starts

2704
02:20:11,560 --> 02:20:14,120
Speaker 1: playing if you know the words of that, you know

2705
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:18,600
Speaker 1: perfect Jesus red bottoms, theseus bloody shoes, and he notices

2706
02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:21,000
Speaker 1: her eyes are changing like they did in the car.

2707
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:24,240
Speaker 1: One turns brown and he's like, what hillary your eyes?

2708
02:20:24,680 --> 02:20:28,240
Speaker 1: And she then gets behind him, kicks him on the ground,

2709
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:35,320
Speaker 1: and stabs him in his butt with the heels until

2710
02:20:35,440 --> 02:20:40,400
Speaker 1: they're bleeding as she turns back into herself.

2711
02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:42,040
Speaker 2: It was a lot going on.

2712
02:20:42,320 --> 02:20:46,000
Speaker 1: A lot was happening, Like she is turning back to

2713
02:20:46,160 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: her the naked, bloody black self while also stabbing him

2714
02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:53,680
Speaker 1: in his butt with these red bottoms, giving him the

2715
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:55,520
Speaker 1: worst prostate exam of all time.

2716
02:20:56,320 --> 02:21:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the thing is, Wow, this was happening. Is

2717
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:03,840
Speaker 3: one of those things where I go, somebody's gonna find

2718
02:21:03,879 --> 02:21:08,080
Speaker 3: him like that. They're gonna find this white skin all

2719
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:11,000
Speaker 3: on the ground, and I'm like, oh, they're gonna charge

2720
02:21:11,080 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 3: him with that white woman's murder and he's gonna tell

2721
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,120
Speaker 3: them what happened and they're not gonna believe him.

2722
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:20,080
Speaker 2: Maybe, man, I so much don't know what the fuck.

2723
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:26,280
Speaker 1: God, that's how much this episode threw me, because I

2724
02:21:26,360 --> 02:21:29,440
Speaker 1: don't know how much realism they're approaching it with or not.

2725
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:33,560
Speaker 1: Because she also walks out of this office after flipping

2726
02:21:33,640 --> 02:21:35,280
Speaker 1: him over and saying, I just wanted you to know

2727
02:21:35,920 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 1: that a nigga bitch did this to you with white

2728
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:41,959
Speaker 1: skin just falling off her on the floor, and then

2729
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:44,000
Speaker 1: she puts on like a coat and walks out covered

2730
02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:46,920
Speaker 1: in blood. And I kept thinking, like, there's so many

2731
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:48,960
Speaker 1: scenes where she's covered in blood and public and gets

2732
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:51,520
Speaker 1: back home and no one notices. Shit, I don't know

2733
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:54,320
Speaker 1: how much this episode is gonna be in the cannon

2734
02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:57,400
Speaker 1: of like you know. And then the police looked at

2735
02:21:57,400 --> 02:22:00,480
Speaker 1: the forensics and figured, so you know, like what counts

2736
02:22:00,520 --> 02:22:01,119
Speaker 1: and what doesn't.

2737
02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:02,840
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know.

2738
02:22:03,160 --> 02:22:08,920
Speaker 3: I think that, Uh, the Criocket cop end up finding

2739
02:22:09,200 --> 02:22:09,920
Speaker 3: that potient.

2740
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:13,039
Speaker 1: Good, that's a good call.

2741
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 2: And they're investigating. That's a good call that because.

2742
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:19,240
Speaker 3: Like he's he's he's seitching, he's he's looking and searching

2743
02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:24,040
Speaker 3: for ship too. So I could see that dude having

2744
02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:28,080
Speaker 3: that potient somewhere in there, assuming it was that perfume,

2745
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,600
Speaker 3: them finding it doing some analysism some ship like that,

2746
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:33,640
Speaker 3: and somebody was like, oh, this is this is a

2747
02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:35,520
Speaker 3: potion from blow blo because remember he got pieces of

2748
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:38,480
Speaker 3: the book. Who knows that that I'm telling you that

2749
02:22:38,560 --> 02:22:41,160
Speaker 3: potient at some period of time is gonna come back

2750
02:22:41,240 --> 02:22:42,320
Speaker 3: up and it's gonna be a problem.

2751
02:22:42,520 --> 02:22:44,160
Speaker 1: Now, that's a great call. That would make a lot

2752
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:46,440
Speaker 1: of sense. That would be a great next step. He

2753
02:22:46,640 --> 02:22:50,160
Speaker 1: investigates it somehow and then puts it together that magic

2754
02:22:50,280 --> 02:22:52,680
Speaker 1: is at foot and that you know, maybe even Christina's

2755
02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:53,600
Speaker 1: got something to do with it.

2756
02:22:53,840 --> 02:22:55,800
Speaker 2: So I don't think put this.

2757
02:22:56,800 --> 02:22:59,920
Speaker 3: He may eventually make the connection, but when it first happened,

2758
02:23:00,000 --> 02:23:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to assume it is Christina.

2759
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, no, I know, well, okay, I'm

2760
02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:08,480
Speaker 1: not I don't know what will happen, but I'm just

2761
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:11,960
Speaker 1: saying it'll have If it doesn't lead back to him

2762
02:23:12,000 --> 02:23:13,560
Speaker 1: figuring out Christina got.

2763
02:23:13,480 --> 02:23:15,360
Speaker 2: Something to do with it, then it don't make sense. Yeah.

2764
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think he's gonna start connecting the docs

2765
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:21,120
Speaker 3: and trying to you know, figure out and all that stuff. Yeah,

2766
02:23:21,840 --> 02:23:23,240
Speaker 3: because they're kind of like enemies.

2767
02:23:23,600 --> 02:23:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So because he knows she's not supposed to be

2768
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:28,879
Speaker 1: in town, he kicked her out and all these machinations

2769
02:23:28,920 --> 02:23:31,160
Speaker 1: and shit, and it's clearly something's gonna happen between the

2770
02:23:31,200 --> 02:23:32,680
Speaker 1: two of them because it's coming to a head because

2771
02:23:32,680 --> 02:23:33,720
Speaker 1: she's observing him now.

2772
02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:38,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, I might be wrong, but I think

2773
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:40,240
Speaker 3: it's true what Christina said about William.

2774
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:47,880
Speaker 2: I think that Christina, I gotta say this.

2775
02:23:48,959 --> 02:23:52,200
Speaker 3: I think that they did dump William's body in the

2776
02:23:52,360 --> 02:23:54,440
Speaker 3: river and all that stuff and shot him up, Like

2777
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:55,920
Speaker 3: I really do think that happened.

2778
02:23:56,320 --> 02:23:58,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I might be wrong, but I already do.

2779
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:00,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to say you might be wrong. We

2780
02:24:00,400 --> 02:24:02,280
Speaker 1: both might be wrong on everything we bring up on

2781
02:24:02,320 --> 02:24:06,920
Speaker 1: the show, so you know, don't doubt yourself. I never

2782
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:09,200
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm not.

2783
02:24:11,080 --> 02:24:13,320
Speaker 1: So then she leaves on the floor, Clark crying and

2784
02:24:13,400 --> 02:24:17,160
Speaker 1: shit walks off. Then she ambushes William at the house

2785
02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:18,000
Speaker 1: as he's coming out of.

2786
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:20,359
Speaker 2: The basement and she says, what's in the basement?

2787
02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:22,200
Speaker 1: You and your lady friend are coming out there all

2788
02:24:22,240 --> 02:24:23,720
Speaker 1: hours of the day and I want to know what's

2789
02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:25,960
Speaker 1: going on. And williams like, I don't have time to

2790
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:29,720
Speaker 1: talk about this now, and then he starts falling down

2791
02:24:29,800 --> 02:24:32,800
Speaker 1: on the ground and she's like, William, what's wrong or whatever?

2792
02:24:33,480 --> 02:24:35,320
Speaker 1: And that's when he.

2793
02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:39,080
Speaker 2: Transforms into Christinea.

2794
02:24:39,680 --> 02:24:44,120
Speaker 1: Because I am the smartest man on the motherfucking planet.

2795
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:45,960
Speaker 1: Many of you doubt it.

2796
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:48,800
Speaker 2: You didn't put the pieces together, but I.

2797
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:50,960
Speaker 1: Did told you. What did I tell you?

2798
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:54,920
Speaker 3: Didn't I tell you cause I told you, And when

2799
02:24:55,080 --> 02:24:57,160
Speaker 3: did I tell you a long time ago?

2800
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:58,880
Speaker 2: And what did I say what happened?

2801
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:04,840
Speaker 1: When I told you exactly what just happened. I told

2802
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:08,160
Speaker 1: you what would happened, and I gave you prophecy on

2803
02:25:08,280 --> 02:25:11,440
Speaker 1: this show. And that's just what I do, Okay, me

2804
02:25:11,480 --> 02:25:14,560
Speaker 1: and the fellow writers in the room, we already know

2805
02:25:14,640 --> 02:25:17,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I'm just parsing it out a little

2806
02:25:17,040 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 1: bit at a time. So yeah, she turned William turns

2807
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:28,600
Speaker 1: into but Christina burst out of William and then she goes,

2808
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:35,720
Speaker 1: Ruby goes, you've been William this whole fucking time, and

2809
02:25:36,040 --> 02:25:36,560
Speaker 1: that's the end.

2810
02:25:38,600 --> 02:25:45,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, amazing episode. I loved it, probably my maybe

2811
02:25:46,160 --> 02:25:47,000
Speaker 2: maybe my favorite.

2812
02:25:47,000 --> 02:25:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. They've all been so good.

2813
02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:50,480
Speaker 2: They've all been so good.

2814
02:25:50,560 --> 02:25:52,400
Speaker 1: I think maybe the first two was my favorite, but

2815
02:25:52,520 --> 02:25:54,199
Speaker 1: mostly because I didn't know what I was getting into

2816
02:25:54,440 --> 02:25:55,880
Speaker 1: and I'm so pleasantly surprised.

2817
02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:59,640
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think after the ending, that's when I

2818
02:25:59,840 --> 02:26:02,840
Speaker 3: was That's when I thought, Hey, I think that they

2819
02:26:02,920 --> 02:26:05,160
Speaker 3: really do think that quote unquote William is dead. I

2820
02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:06,480
Speaker 3: think that has a lot to do with why he

2821
02:26:06,680 --> 02:26:10,040
Speaker 3: has those holes and shit all across his chest. Probably

2822
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:12,200
Speaker 3: where he got shot up at and they potty did

2823
02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:14,520
Speaker 3: it dump them off the river and all that type

2824
02:26:14,560 --> 02:26:14,840
Speaker 3: of shit.

2825
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:20,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing I'm thinking, though, we know that the

2826
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:26,560
Speaker 1: woman whose body William body that Ruby was turning into

2827
02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:32,840
Speaker 1: was the same woman from Ardam or whatever that was,

2828
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,520
Speaker 1: So a couple of things. Could it be that the

2829
02:26:36,760 --> 02:26:40,200
Speaker 1: magic quote unquote is DNA related? And why I say

2830
02:26:40,280 --> 02:26:43,320
Speaker 1: that is they had a cow giving birth to a

2831
02:26:43,360 --> 02:26:46,959
Speaker 1: show goth monster, so they know some shit with some DNA,

2832
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 1: Like are they just taking the DNA of certain people

2833
02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:54,480
Speaker 1: and then you metamorphousize into them from drinking this potion?

2834
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:56,480
Speaker 2: And so that's why you always.

2835
02:26:56,240 --> 02:27:00,280
Speaker 1: Turned into the same person or something like that, because

2836
02:27:00,280 --> 02:27:02,480
Speaker 1: it's clearly a choice to be, like I can be

2837
02:27:02,760 --> 02:27:06,480
Speaker 1: this person, Like it's not you just magically turn into

2838
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 1: any white person or whatever. It's the same person from

2839
02:27:10,480 --> 02:27:14,720
Speaker 1: the same type of potion each time. And then also

2840
02:27:14,879 --> 02:27:17,800
Speaker 1: who is William? Then you see what I'm saying, like

2841
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 1: is that based off a real person somewhere and she

2842
02:27:20,920 --> 02:27:23,480
Speaker 1: took you know, did he really do it? Did die

2843
02:27:23,560 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 1: and she just took his place?

2844
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Like you know, it just makes you wonder what is

2845
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:30,480
Speaker 2: who and what is William?

2846
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:31,400
Speaker 3: You know?

2847
02:27:31,640 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 1: So that was something I was thinking about. The last

2848
02:27:33,480 --> 02:27:36,520
Speaker 1: thing I was gonna say is Ruby is the Locust.

2849
02:27:38,879 --> 02:27:41,280
Speaker 1: So that's another reason I think maybe she's gonna be

2850
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:45,200
Speaker 1: a bad guy, because you know, if you go back

2851
02:27:45,240 --> 02:27:48,200
Speaker 1: to what they said about the locust on the news report,

2852
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:55,119
Speaker 1: it was essentially like it transforms it, you know, after

2853
02:27:56,040 --> 02:27:59,520
Speaker 1: seven days of reach sexual maturity, and it devours everything,

2854
02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:03,320
Speaker 1: and so it's coming for Great Britain aka white people.

2855
02:28:04,080 --> 02:28:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I might be stretching it too far. I

2856
02:28:05,680 --> 02:28:09,320
Speaker 1: don't know, but it feels like this was this what

2857
02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:12,480
Speaker 1: five to seven days that we spent as Ruby and

2858
02:28:12,640 --> 02:28:15,640
Speaker 1: eventually knowing that it is called the Strange Case Doctor Jekyll,

2859
02:28:15,680 --> 02:28:19,400
Speaker 1: mister Hyde, and mister Hyde is about the unbridled, unfiltered,

2860
02:28:19,959 --> 02:28:25,520
Speaker 1: like dark motivations that laid in doctor Jeco, but we're not.

2861
02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:29,880
Speaker 2: He just couldn't hold him back once he transformed.

2862
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that maybe that for Ruby, she's transforming and

2863
02:28:35,080 --> 02:28:38,840
Speaker 1: then she's going to devour aka want like greedy ly

2864
02:28:39,120 --> 02:28:43,200
Speaker 1: want this power, this magic for herself. I wouldn't be

2865
02:28:43,240 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 1: shocked if she either joins up with Christina or turns

2866
02:28:47,680 --> 02:28:52,240
Speaker 1: like betrays and turns against Letty and them in a

2867
02:28:52,320 --> 02:28:53,240
Speaker 1: pursuit of power.

2868
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:57,440
Speaker 3: I gotta think I think she's gonna do both.

2869
02:28:57,560 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 2: I think that.

2870
02:29:00,280 --> 02:29:04,200
Speaker 3: She's going to force Christina to teach her and show

2871
02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:07,520
Speaker 3: her how to make that shit herself to be able

2872
02:29:07,560 --> 02:29:10,640
Speaker 3: to do it on her own, you know, because she

2873
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:12,880
Speaker 3: was like, bitch, if you don't tell me, I'm telling everybody.

2874
02:29:13,200 --> 02:29:15,320
Speaker 3: You know. I could because she's literally the only person

2875
02:29:15,400 --> 02:29:19,560
Speaker 3: that knows probably that they are the same person. And

2876
02:29:20,040 --> 02:29:24,119
Speaker 3: so I think that they're gonna end up working together.

2877
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:28,240
Speaker 3: And I think I might be wrong, but I think

2878
02:29:28,280 --> 02:29:30,959
Speaker 3: eventually Christina's gonna kind of let her in, because she's

2879
02:29:31,040 --> 02:29:33,680
Speaker 3: let her in but literally let her in tell about

2880
02:29:33,760 --> 02:29:38,320
Speaker 3: Leady and all that stuff and use. And Christina's gonna

2881
02:29:38,360 --> 02:29:39,560
Speaker 3: do it as a way to get to a book,

2882
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:41,040
Speaker 3: but Letty's going to do it out a way of

2883
02:29:41,120 --> 02:29:46,040
Speaker 3: revenge of getting to Tick and Letty and actually working

2884
02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:49,240
Speaker 3: with them to get them to accomplish things, and then

2885
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:50,800
Speaker 3: gonna turn around and.

2886
02:29:53,560 --> 02:29:54,840
Speaker 2: It all be a lie, you know.

2887
02:29:55,440 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 3: And I could see once Ruby learns how to this potion,

2888
02:30:00,959 --> 02:30:03,200
Speaker 3: I'm just speculating, y'all. Want Ruby learns how to make

2889
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:06,280
Speaker 3: this potion herself. I could see her going to Letty

2890
02:30:06,320 --> 02:30:10,240
Speaker 3: and Tick as a completely different person, you know, Yeah,

2891
02:30:10,800 --> 02:30:11,959
Speaker 3: like a mask off type of things.

2892
02:30:12,040 --> 02:30:14,440
Speaker 1: See. My thing is, I mean, yeah, sure, like why

2893
02:30:14,720 --> 02:30:16,760
Speaker 1: why not try to play both sides? But my thing

2894
02:30:16,879 --> 02:30:19,879
Speaker 1: is also like they would trust her if she came back.

2895
02:30:21,200 --> 02:30:23,080
Speaker 1: They really don't have a reason not to trust her,

2896
02:30:23,240 --> 02:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Like they don't know she's been up to any of

2897
02:30:25,360 --> 02:30:28,320
Speaker 1: this shit. So she could literally just quote unquote infiltrate

2898
02:30:28,520 --> 02:30:31,480
Speaker 1: without needing to pretend to be anyone else. She could

2899
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:33,480
Speaker 1: just show up and be like, so, what are y'all

2900
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:35,840
Speaker 1: up to? I want to help, And really she's just

2901
02:30:35,959 --> 02:30:39,040
Speaker 1: trying to get to the ory. She knows all the

2902
02:30:39,080 --> 02:30:41,879
Speaker 1: same people they know, and they don't even have the orry.

2903
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:46,760
Speaker 1: We still haven't caught up with d and Hippolyta from

2904
02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:47,440
Speaker 1: two weeks ago.

2905
02:30:47,480 --> 02:30:49,520
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're doing. Yes, they still on

2906
02:30:49,600 --> 02:30:51,680
Speaker 2: the road, y'all. They made it there yet, yep.

2907
02:30:51,959 --> 02:30:54,800
Speaker 1: So I'm you know, I'm just I'm just saying, man,

2908
02:30:54,959 --> 02:30:58,240
Speaker 1: they could do a lot with Ruby. But I also

2909
02:30:58,280 --> 02:31:00,960
Speaker 1: could feel her being mad if she was like, Yo,

2910
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:04,280
Speaker 1: y'all really left me out of this shit, Like y'all

2911
02:31:04,360 --> 02:31:06,440
Speaker 1: been fucking around with magic and power and all this shit,

2912
02:31:06,480 --> 02:31:07,960
Speaker 1: and y'all weren't gonna tell me nothing.

2913
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:12,400
Speaker 2: I just been out here on my own, and y'all, like,

2914
02:31:13,240 --> 02:31:14,080
Speaker 2: now that I've.

2915
02:31:13,959 --> 02:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Discovered it on my own, fuck y'all, you know what

2916
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, because y'all could have at any point told

2917
02:31:18,600 --> 02:31:23,160
Speaker 1: me like this shit is real. So and it'll also

2918
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,040
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how much Christina would let her

2919
02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:27,800
Speaker 1: in on, like would she tell her the full story?

2920
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:30,840
Speaker 1: Because Christina's a lying, crafty motherfucker that tells you what

2921
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:34,880
Speaker 1: you need to know and nothing else. Right, So, you know,

2922
02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:37,680
Speaker 1: it's just so much with this show, so many places

2923
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:40,920
Speaker 1: they could go, and this episode just had so many

2924
02:31:41,040 --> 02:31:43,320
Speaker 1: levels and layers to it, so I just thought it

2925
02:31:43,440 --> 02:31:47,080
Speaker 1: was so great. But yeah, so what are you looking

2926
02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:48,320
Speaker 1: forward to next week?

2927
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:50,600
Speaker 2: Next week should be fun.

2928
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:53,480
Speaker 3: Looks like we are actually going to Korea, so I'm

2929
02:31:53,520 --> 02:31:56,879
Speaker 3: interested to see the backstory a tick and what happened

2930
02:31:56,920 --> 02:31:57,640
Speaker 3: to him over.

2931
02:31:57,560 --> 02:31:58,000
Speaker 2: There and.

2932
02:31:59,760 --> 02:32:02,840
Speaker 3: Why what really made him come back? And you know,

2933
02:32:03,320 --> 02:32:07,240
Speaker 3: why did she tell him not to go back in

2934
02:32:07,320 --> 02:32:10,160
Speaker 3: the first place, Like what caused that relationship to fall apart?

2935
02:32:10,400 --> 02:32:14,360
Speaker 3: Like it's going to be a fun because we're literally

2936
02:32:14,440 --> 02:32:16,080
Speaker 3: going to be leaving the United States, you know, for

2937
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:18,200
Speaker 3: the first time in this series.

2938
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Same thing basically it looks like it's gonna be, at

2939
02:32:21,760 --> 02:32:24,200
Speaker 1: least in a preview, like a basically a self contained

2940
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:26,879
Speaker 1: story of just what happened back then, which is.

2941
02:32:26,879 --> 02:32:29,280
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things that's been happening in TV lately.

2942
02:32:29,400 --> 02:32:32,760
Speaker 1: Watchman did this, Like I love when a show is

2943
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:35,240
Speaker 1: really compelling and then they take time to really do

2944
02:32:35,360 --> 02:32:38,520
Speaker 1: it right. When they do that, like Bottleneck episode or

2945
02:32:38,560 --> 02:32:40,680
Speaker 1: like here we Go do going back to Korea or whatever,

2946
02:32:41,240 --> 02:32:44,920
Speaker 1: and hopefully it adds more plot points to what we

2947
02:32:45,000 --> 02:32:45,400
Speaker 1: already have.

2948
02:32:45,440 --> 02:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Seen if it's done right, Yes, it does, yeah.

2949
02:32:48,400 --> 02:32:50,720
Speaker 1: And I think this one will. Everything they've done in

2950
02:32:50,760 --> 02:32:52,280
Speaker 1: the show so far has been kind of done right

2951
02:32:52,360 --> 02:32:55,439
Speaker 1: to me, And like I said, I recognize the hopiness.

2952
02:32:55,680 --> 02:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I recognize the leaps of logic that you have to take,

2953
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:01,800
Speaker 1: you know, like I get you.

2954
02:33:01,879 --> 02:33:02,280
Speaker 3: Know, like.

2955
02:33:04,480 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 1: Her walking around bloody back to the house every day

2956
02:33:06,959 --> 02:33:09,280
Speaker 1: and never getting caught, you know, because as soon as

2957
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:11,680
Speaker 1: she would have to walk bloody as a black woman

2958
02:33:11,800 --> 02:33:15,440
Speaker 1: through this neighborhood to get to this mansion or whatever,

2959
02:33:15,640 --> 02:33:18,039
Speaker 1: you know, So I do get it. I'm not trying

2960
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:22,040
Speaker 1: to say, uh, you know, it's you know, like, oh,

2961
02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:24,080
Speaker 1: this show is just so it thinks of everything. But

2962
02:33:24,200 --> 02:33:25,320
Speaker 1: it's just a fun show.

2963
02:33:25,400 --> 02:33:27,560
Speaker 2: It's Buffy but with black people.

2964
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:30,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's in a better budget and rateed R

2965
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:34,240
Speaker 1: and sex Uh so it's you know, so I'm really

2966
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:34,840
Speaker 1: enjoying it.

2967
02:33:35,879 --> 02:33:37,960
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's some little things I think.

2968
02:33:39,879 --> 02:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I think the key elements for me was just the

2969
02:33:42,320 --> 02:33:46,000
Speaker 1: respectability angle. The fact that she kind of hated Tamera

2970
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:49,280
Speaker 1: and put Tamra, but she really was responsible for putting

2971
02:33:49,280 --> 02:33:54,560
Speaker 1: Tamor in a position to be sexually assaulted, and I

2972
02:33:54,640 --> 02:33:56,959
Speaker 1: think she got revenge for it. And I think that's

2973
02:33:57,040 --> 02:34:00,160
Speaker 1: why when when she helped the reason she went that

2974
02:34:00,240 --> 02:34:05,160
Speaker 1: police officer's office was because Christina explainatory would help William

2975
02:34:05,240 --> 02:34:09,160
Speaker 1: get revenge. And the fact that that was the motivator

2976
02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 1: for her to me speaks volumes because she understood, Yeah,

2977
02:34:13,240 --> 02:34:15,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that we end this with her getting

2978
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:19,160
Speaker 1: revenge on that boss essentially and Christina kind of helping

2979
02:34:19,200 --> 02:34:23,480
Speaker 1: her to some like, Yo, magic is power beyond just whiteness,

2980
02:34:24,400 --> 02:34:27,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what would that power look like in

2981
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:29,600
Speaker 1: the hands of a black woman like Ruby.

2982
02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:33,119
Speaker 2: Oh, she's gonna be she gonna be fucking white people up.

2983
02:34:33,080 --> 02:34:35,959
Speaker 1: Because everybody else shit is like we want to protect

2984
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:37,520
Speaker 1: it we want to protect each other. We want to

2985
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:40,480
Speaker 1: She's like, I want the power, and I'm like her

2986
02:34:40,520 --> 02:34:41,880
Speaker 1: and Christina could become allies.

2987
02:34:41,959 --> 02:34:44,680
Speaker 2: But let me tell you, some people that covet power

2988
02:34:44,879 --> 02:34:45,960
Speaker 2: normally don't like sharing it.

2989
02:34:46,160 --> 02:34:50,040
Speaker 1: So uh that even if she worked with Christina, somehow

2990
02:34:50,120 --> 02:34:52,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna come to a head and I just can't imagine.

2991
02:34:52,520 --> 02:34:55,200
Speaker 1: So all right, y'all, that's it for this week. Thank

2992
02:34:55,240 --> 02:34:57,000
Speaker 1: you so much for listening. This was long, but it

2993
02:34:57,080 --> 02:35:00,520
Speaker 1: was fun. Hope y'all enjoyed it. And and we'll talk

2994
02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:05,240
Speaker 1: to y'all Saturday for our feedback show Premium people. We'll

2995
02:35:05,280 --> 02:35:08,640
Speaker 1: talk to you Thursday and Friday. All right, until then, peace,

2996
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:11,879
Speaker 1: I love you, Okay, I love you too. Okay, oh

2997
02:35:11,959 --> 02:35:14,560
Speaker 1: my badmy throw you off. Until then, I love you.

2998
02:35:14,680 --> 02:35:15,240
Speaker 2: I love you too.

2999
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:15,640
Speaker 3: H