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Speaker 4: It is Wednesday, September thirtieth, twenty twenty, and it's time

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Speaker 3: Hello Luke, Welcome. It is Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: As you said, Welcome to the takeover. It begins now MK.

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Speaker 4: So for folks who may not know, this is now

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Speaker 4: at the beginning of our Wednesday rotation, which we're still

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Speaker 4: working through some segment ideas, keep firing them off. Luke

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Speaker 4: Thomas news at gmail dot com. But BC, let's start

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Speaker 4: with a few topics to discuss today. First, Connor continues

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Speaker 4: Connor McGregor, that is his war with Dana and has

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Speaker 4: now tried to schedule a charity exhibition fight with Dustin Poarier.

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Speaker 4: So he took to social media, as I'm sure we

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Speaker 4: you want to do something for charity. He told him

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Speaker 4: as well. They would do it in Ireland dustin seem game,

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Speaker 1: BC?

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Speaker 2: This is Connor upset at the machine, upset at Dana

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Speaker 2: The specifically in that chain of Twitter events, he was saying,

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Speaker 2: And I know there's people from our debate on Monday

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Speaker 2: anywhere before? Your boss doesn't always set it to you straight, right,

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Speaker 2: these guys are under contract to the to the UFC.

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Speaker 3: If you can pull it off, that's fine. Hey, Connor,

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Speaker 2: That would mean a lot and would actually give you

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Speaker 3: And this is certainly not coming from a Connor hater.

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Speaker 2: I love me some Connor, you know that, Luke, Okay,

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Speaker 2: but this is all just a big charade in a party.

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Speaker 3: There's money in Saudi.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure Connor can fight if he really wanted to.

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Speaker 2: I know he had big plans for this year. COVID

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Speaker 2: dere held them. Dana's not perfect, but go back to

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Speaker 2: come on, not for this.

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Speaker 1: What about let me plead devil's advocate?

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Speaker 4: What about Connors claimed that he's trying to get fights

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Speaker 4: and they're putting him on the shelf.

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Speaker 2: Well, look as we saw from that, here's the whole

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Speaker 1: It's true, a.

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Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez fight that didn't make any sense to anybody.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Dana.

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Speaker 2: Didn't potentially bait and switch or say something publicly.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't true. Again, it's the freaking game. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like it's where is what it is.

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Speaker 2: This is a different This isn't like your typical office,

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Speaker 3: Luke, I want to see him back, Come back, bro, Okay,

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Speaker 3: make it happen. Stop doing this. I'm gonna show you

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Speaker 3: how you know what my brand, We already know what

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Speaker 3: you are, that's why you get paid more than everybody else.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you got to come plug back into

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Speaker 3: that's my statement right there.

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Speaker 2: That's BC the fan and journalists coming together to tell

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Speaker 2: Luke when he responded to that area on DC show

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Speaker 4: DC has been between Yan Mahovich and Connor McGregor. Poor

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Speaker 4: DC's been getting fat shamed on social media every which

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Speaker 4: way to Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: Bro, well, he is thick with about four seas.

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Speaker 2: Ever since he'd be vulcan, he just never went back, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, He's yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: You know, here's the thing for me that it's like,

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Speaker 4: But you're gonna be throwing them hands. They want to

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Speaker 4: it's just training. We're not fighting. It's not an exhibition.

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Speaker 1: Buy the pay per view. Then how could you stop it?

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Speaker 4: These guys keep setting up scenarios where they have to

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Speaker 4: if you define it as an exhibition ahead of time,

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Speaker 1: Why can't they just do that? I mean, look, I

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Speaker 2: Down exactly what you're saying, and you know, could they

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Speaker 2: pull it off if they announced? But you got to

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Speaker 2: actually announce something early enough to get everyone's attention, Luke,

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Speaker 2: and I think in that short time, you know, UFC

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Speaker 2: Connor actually is going to do these exhibitions. I think

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Speaker 2: it's more of a larger public negotiation. I don't doubt

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Speaker 2: that Dana would prefer Connor come back, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: next year when we can get more people into a

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Speaker 2: and maybe you guys disagree with me, and everyone out

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Speaker 2: there seemed to disagree with me on Monday, and that's fine.

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Speaker 3: That if Connor really, really, really.

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Speaker 2: Really wanted to fight right now and just went to

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Speaker 2: Dana and was like I just need it, I just

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Speaker 3: Figure it out. They figure it out, Luke.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of fricking money in the Middle East, right,

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Speaker 2: So do you Is that part of this in your eyes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, does he lie publicly? Probably?

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Speaker 3: And you know, he hurt ray Borg and he you know,

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Speaker 2: Dana did not slap his wrist once, Luke, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: He is absolutely not the right guy for that.

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Speaker 4: Even as smart and capable of a leader, as improven

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Speaker 4: I just don't think that whatever is broken is is

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Speaker 1: It's just it.

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Speaker 4: Tells you a lot that the Contender series is firing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he look, you would have thought by the way,

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Speaker 2: Irreparable because Connor's going to need them eventually, right, unless

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Speaker 2: So it's not irreparable.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it takes us to our second bit of big

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Speaker 1: Beginning of the week.

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Speaker 4: Really John Jones's warpath BC. So he's just out there

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Speaker 1: But the key about it is you.

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Speaker 3: The only thing I know, Luke, is about this bretta

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Speaker 4: So he's taking shots at easy, which we'll get to

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Speaker 3: So here's what's very interesting.

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Speaker 2: But I thought it was weird after Blahoovich's win that

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Speaker 3: That would make.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no sense to me, Luke, you would gain nothing

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Speaker 2: in John Psyche right now short of heavyweight?

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Speaker 3: Is it a lot better?

438
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,840
Speaker 2: And is it time right now for UFC to go

439
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,800
Speaker 2: John isy at too five?

440
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 3: Billing it essentially.

441
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 2: As look, John, when you go up to heavyweight, you're

442
00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,239
Speaker 2: gonna commit, You're gonna do a lot of squats, You're

443
00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,280
Speaker 2: gonna try to get those tiny calves big for once.

444
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 2: You know you and your brother are gonna go in

445
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,880
Speaker 2: the weight room and get into that full heavyweight body.

446
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 2: But until you get there, why don't you do one

447
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,399
Speaker 2: more at tool five? And oh, by the way, Israel

448
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 2: out of Sonia is right on the verge of global

449
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,399
Speaker 2: bust out worldwide stardom. Let's give him this one off,

450
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 2: non title super fight and if he can win it, dude,

451
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 2: he's the face of our franchise. We may need, we

452
00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 2: may be able to tell Connor to pound sand for

453
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,200
Speaker 2: another six months because we may have this guy right

454
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,359
Speaker 2: here that seems like the smartest role right now, unless

455
00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 2: you're just gonna say, all right, John Jones Stipe right.

456
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Speaker 1: Now, I love the idea.

457
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Speaker 4: It was funny John was reacting this week to the

458
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Speaker 4: Yon tweets, but also Daniel Cormier being like, why would

459
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Speaker 4: you say you're gonna go to heavyweight and then as

460
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Speaker 4: soon as Reyes loses you don't mind going back to

461
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Speaker 4: two five? It's because you were ducking Dom Reyes. You know,

462
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Speaker 4: I don't know how much I believe in that theory,

463
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,959
Speaker 4: but it pissed John off because he was talking about

464
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Speaker 4: you know, he defended himself saying essentially that you know,

465
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Speaker 4: I've been solely focused on and moved to heavyweight blah

466
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Speaker 4: blah blah.

467
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Speaker 1: But you're right, it's it was.

468
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Speaker 4: The language that they used was weird around that I

469
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 4: didn't quite understand, being Dana and John like, why would you?

470
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Speaker 4: I mean the best part about gsp leaving the division

471
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 4: was that he got lucky in that Hendrix win. I

472
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 4: don't care what anybody says. I thought Hendricks won. That

473
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 4: one cleans a strong word, but he looked at me

474
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Speaker 4: to be the victor certainly didn't take nearly as much abuse, okay,

475
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Speaker 4: And it was a perfect time to just leave. Let

476
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 4: everyone remember you had the w Let the division regrow right,

477
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 4: let nature heal. So to speak right PC and to

478
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Speaker 4: go back would just be bizarre for all the reasons

479
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Speaker 4: you mentioned. Plus it would damage the division. Whether if

480
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Speaker 4: he won, excuse if you lost, it wouldn't be as damaging.

481
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Speaker 4: But I like your is the idea because Izi had said, look,

482
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Speaker 4: let me defend my title a few times. Is he

483
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Speaker 4: himself has said he counts the Gasoline win as his

484
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Speaker 4: first real title fight, so that he would have three

485
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Speaker 4: title defenses by Isy's own logic in that particular case,

486
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Speaker 4: that's a few. The Kennon ear fight is interesting, but

487
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Speaker 4: I don't think he's got much of a chance against

488
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Speaker 4: a guy like Adasania. And the interesting part about the

489
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Speaker 4: fight with John and Adasignya is Adasigna has an eighty

490
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Speaker 4: inch reach I think on the feet, to the extent

491
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Speaker 4: that is he can keep it there.

492
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Speaker 1: I think he torches John Jones.

493
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Speaker 4: However, that is even what John Jones is not saying

494
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Speaker 4: what he was gonna do if they thought he is

495
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Speaker 4: talking about ripping him limb from limb, taking him down,

496
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Speaker 4: wrestling him, making him his bitch, and very uh you know,

497
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Speaker 4: sundry other threats that are related to the wrestling game.

498
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Speaker 4: Got to tell you, though, if you look at John's

499
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: takedown attempts at a success rate over the last few

500
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Speaker 4: fights Anthony Smith, Tiago Santos and then let's see the

501
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Speaker 4: Arrays fight, and I'm forgetting one as well. Not especially high,

502
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 4: not especially high. I've said this before, Folks need to

503
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Speaker 4: wake up to it. What's keeping John in these fights

504
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: is he has a brilliant fight IQ.

505
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Speaker 1: It cannot be denied.

506
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Speaker 4: He's got just some of the best defense I've ever seen,

507
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 4: and I mean that sincerely, super super crisp defense. And

508
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 4: his offense is still good, but it's badly waned from

509
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Speaker 4: what it used to be at its peak. That to me,

510
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Speaker 4: that Adasanna versus Jones fight hella competitive and all right,

511
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Speaker 4: I want to ask you.

512
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you two important questions about this.

513
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Speaker 2: I want to follow you on trial here, Luke. Okay,

514
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Speaker 2: you are CITYO City Cockboxing's a number one fan. All right,

515
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 2: day stay City Cockrock. Look they're both six foot four. Okay,

516
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: let's say we gave is he time. You know, we

517
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: build it as a one off, but let's say we

518
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: gave him a little bit of.

519
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Speaker 3: Time to you know, get his body where he wanted it.

520
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Speaker 3: Let's not forget.

521
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but DC and

522
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: Ariel'll actually do a show together now. And DC said

523
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Speaker 2: on Monday, somewhat controversial statement, but he said, I think

524
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Speaker 2: is he's so good right now, he's the best two.

525
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: Hundred and five pounder in the entire world.

526
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Speaker 2: He's UFC's best light have you eight and he's never

527
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Speaker 2: competed in that division. Somewhat controversial take, but it fuels.

528
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Speaker 3: Into this question.

529
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Speaker 2: Some odds makers did come out with early odds and

530
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Speaker 2: they had Jones as a slight favorite. Seriously, two five,

531
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Speaker 2: straight up?

532
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Speaker 3: Who you got Jones?

533
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Speaker 4: Atisania Man's there's no way to divorce from recency bias

534
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: in terms of how good is he looked. Granted, he

535
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 4: didn't get tested in the wrestling department at all, so

536
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 4: it's almost irrelevant. But honestly, I might go izy, and

537
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have said that a year ago.

538
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Speaker 1: For sure, I wouldn't have said that a year ago.

539
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Speaker 4: And I'll, you know, could I imagine a world where

540
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I think is he wins and then John

541
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: goes in there and you know, clubs him over with

542
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: a knee tap and completely ground to pounds him into

543
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Speaker 4: into sand.

544
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Speaker 1: Sure, I might go, what about you? Where are you

545
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: on this whole debate?

546
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Speaker 2: You know, recency bias is very strong in this moment.

547
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: Let's not forget that John Jones is coming off some

548
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 2: some very close performances in which he you know, did

549
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: was far from dominant and spectacular. He was he was

550
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: cagey and he and he did what he had to

551
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Speaker 2: do to pull it off.

552
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Speaker 3: I would like his Isy's chances if he could keep

553
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Speaker 3: it a chess match, if he could really you know,

554
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 3: if his supernatural sort of striking ability, the ability to

555
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 3: own distance, the uh you know, the slights, all that

556
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: stuff that you do and dissected.

557
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: If that's real, I want to see that against Bones.

558
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: I think he could pull off a decision. When here

559
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,719
Speaker 2: they're both six 's four, John is a four inch longer,

560
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: longer reach. Obviously he's gonna have a potential wrestling advantage

561
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: and the size and power advantage.

562
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 3: Luke, how bad would this be.

563
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: Like when you when you do this. Let's say you

564
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: UFC did this. You're taking a gamble, right your roll

565
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: on the dice. That style bender can become an absolute global,

566
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: worldwide pay per view one million every time out star

567
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: by either beating Jones or looking really good in a

568
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: close loss. What would be the damage if it was

569
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: a wide loss or a knockout loss?

570
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Speaker 3: Is it?

571
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: Is it worth the squeeze? Is this the reason why

572
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: we never saw gsp Silva?

573
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 1: Maybe?

574
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Speaker 4: Although here's the thing. Let's let's sort of imagine two worlds. Right,

575
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Speaker 4: So Adasania loses, you could say, okay, first fight at

576
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Speaker 4: two o five in the UFC. Obviously he's faught a

577
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 4: highs heavyweight in kickboxing and boxing. But you could say, well,

578
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: you know, first time two of five all by the way,

579
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Speaker 4: the guy who was the consensus number one, top of

580
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 4: the found abound of the ground. Okay, you know whatever.

581
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 4: So you're asking about the other way, what if he

582
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 4: ends up losing? That is a little bit I think

583
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: you're viciously KO'ed. That's a little bit harder to I

584
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 4: think square for a move to heavyweight. But I still

585
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: don't think it ruins everything. It would derail a lot

586
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 4: of the hype and it would make his path at

587
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: heavyweight a little bit longer. But in some senses that

588
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: might be better, right, rather than just jumping to the front

589
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: with Francis, or if they made you fight, you know,

590
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: somebody that DC fought, like a Derek Lewis or someone

591
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: in that top five, top six, top seven orbit and

592
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Speaker 4: then another and then another. Not only is it rebuild

593
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Speaker 4: you if you can win, and I suspect he could

594
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Speaker 4: win those, but it's actually kind of fairer, you know,

595
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Speaker 4: rather than just jumping right to the front of the

596
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 4: line and poor Francis gets, you know, his chance.

597
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: Taken away from him.

598
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Speaker 4: I don't think that they will do that, but it

599
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: certainly seems like it's a possibility.

600
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Speaker 1: So I don't know that I.

601
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Speaker 4: Think it's it's not great, it's not great.

602
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that I believe that it's cataclysmic BC.

603
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: What about you, you know.

604
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if it's a you know, one punch

605
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: type deal, that looks bad.

606
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't think he would get one punched. I think,

607
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Speaker 3: you know, like you said, it would be more of

608
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: a ground and pound, it would be more of a thing.

609
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 3: But there are many ways this works out great for

610
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Speaker 3: the UFC.

611
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: So I'm gonnad a little bit more, you know, cherry

612
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: on top of this Sunday for you, Luke, this hot Sunday, right,

613
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, talking about those three

614
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 2: girls from Save by the bel Yes, yes, yes, okay, Luke.

615
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: Is Dana smarter than we think? Is Dana thinking? You

616
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: know what, Let's make this super fight really important. John,

617
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: go back in there and take your belt back from Yan.

618
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: We get a short term payday out of that, and

619
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Speaker 2: then we do it at two o five champ versus

620
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: champ on beaten guy who has next versus the goat

621
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Speaker 2: who still has the old belt, and if out of

622
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: Sonya wins, he's not just the face of this sport,

623
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Speaker 2: He's the two division champion.

624
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: Brother. I mean, you know this is promoting promotion one

625
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 3: O one. Luke, I'll learn you up anytime you want.

626
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 4: Okay, you can talk me into Hey, we got some

627
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 4: time to kill and by the way, we can make

628
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 4: a killer fight and Jones out of signy. Okay, all right,

629
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 4: you can sell me on it. I'll buy that, and

630
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: i'll buy it from probably more than it's worth. But

631
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: you know we're gonna put another hurdle in there by

632
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: beating Yan and then he has to fight is he

633
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 4: and someone it's injured along the way and the fight

634
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 4: gets delayed.

635
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: It's like the Ultimate Fighter.

636
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 4: It's like, why are we going to put a fight

637
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 4: on ice for nine months that we want to see?

638
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: Now? Fuck all that. I don't want to see that.

639
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: That's fair, that's fair.

640
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: We have a clip of out of sign. You're saying

641
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: he's gonna spank John Jones. Let's see it.

642
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: Your favorite look little pro wrestling. There a little Big Eie.

643
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: Who are these? Who are these two gentlemen?

644
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: That is Big Eie, the man standing from the New Day,

645
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: a great you know, one of the probably the best

646
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: tag team of this era, and he's about to break

647
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: loose and become an absolute single stud. And that's the

648
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 2: old Dean Ambrose who's spanking the ass of now John

649
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: Moxley in aew.

650
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: I know you don't care, but you know I've got.

651
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: My glasses on. But this looks suspiciously like room service diaries. Yeah,

652
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: uh okay, Well, with that in mind, I guess we'll

653
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: follow that story. Let's move to topic three if we

654
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Speaker 4: can here. BC Belt Wore two forty seven is this weekend,

655
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Speaker 4: and there's a lot to unpack her.

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Speaker 1: It's the you have see excuse me, teach you tomorrow.

657
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Speaker 1: Look all right, it.

658
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Speaker 4: Is Bellatore's debut on CBS Sports Network. It is tomorrow.

659
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Speaker 4: They're calling a Belotar two forty seven, also known as

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Speaker 4: belletorm MA line no BC, I know even following the

661
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Speaker 4: story all morning, Paul Daily was supposed to headline Semtex

662
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Speaker 4: but I don't think that's the case anymore.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell the viewers about what's happened?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welterweight main event was scheduled Paul Daily against Derek Anderson,

665
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Speaker 2: who was moving up from lightweight.

666
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Speaker 3: We know him.

667
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 2: He had beaten Patricky Pitbull twice. It's gonna be an

668
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: interesting matchup, largely because Paul Daily was looking for this

669
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Speaker 2: to be a launching pad back into a welterweight title belt,

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Speaker 2: maybe in a rematch with MVP. If Lima gives up

671
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: the belt when he moves up to face Musac, now

672
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Speaker 2: we're not going to have a fight at all. Paul

673
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Speaker 2: Daily weighing in two point six pounds over that one

674
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy pound limit, one point six over the

675
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: you know plus one, you get in a non title bout.

676
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: He was rushed to a hospital afterwards on a stretcher.

677
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: Then he put out an Instagram video saying, look, I

678
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Speaker 2: didn't receive any medical attention.

679
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Speaker 3: I'm fine. I can still make this fight out happen.

680
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: And you know, for reasons that we don't know up

681
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: to this point, that fight has stayed canceled and our

682
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Speaker 2: new main event will be women's flyweights Kate Jackson versus

683
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Speaker 2: Denise Keelholtz. Luke, that's not the same Kate Jackson by

684
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Speaker 2: the way from Charlie's Angels and Scarecrow and Missus King.

685
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: But sorry, miss Jackson, she's for real, she's gonna be

686
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Speaker 3: in that main event.

687
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Speaker 2: Tough break, Luke, because this is a big announcement card

688
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: for a new era of Belcher, of Belator, if we're

689
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: being serious here. Moving to CBS Sports Network going on

690
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: Thursdays moving forward, which is a very strategic and interesting move.

691
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Speaker 2: This card from Milan will be in the afternoon, but

692
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Speaker 2: we're going to start seeing this every Thursday night.

693
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Speaker 3: October fifteenth, of course, is that loaded card when Chris

694
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Speaker 3: Cyborg comes back to defender title against Arlene Buenco, and

695
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Speaker 3: then we also have Douglas Alima, gay Guard Musasi, come on,

696
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Speaker 3: pour it on me for the Middleway Belt.

697
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Speaker 2: So a lot of good stuff to look forward to.

698
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Speaker 2: Tough break on this initial.

699
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Speaker 4: Card, Luke, Now, didn't Semtex? I think you alluded to it,

700
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: but didn't Semtex. Paul Daily take to Instagram and say, Hey,

701
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Speaker 4: I wasn't administered any care at the hospital. I'm back

702
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: in the hotel, I've just eaten. I'm ready to go.

703
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: Fight's not canceled. There seems to be miscommunication from what

704
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: Daily is saying on Instagram and what Bellator is well

705
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Speaker 4: frankly announcing to the press.

706
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Speaker 1: At this point, what is the situation.

707
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Speaker 3: That's all we know up to this point as of

708
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Speaker 3: press time has been unfolding this morning.

709
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Speaker 2: Shout out to the Warlock Gareth A. Davis for being

710
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Speaker 2: on top of that over there in Europe. But that's

711
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Speaker 2: our situation. Certainly some interesting fights though on this card, Luke,

712
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Speaker 2: are you woke to this middleweight Norbert noven Ol Junior.

713
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. He's going

714
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Speaker 2: to be in there against Laide ZERHOUNI. Do you know

715
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Speaker 2: Norbert's data?

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Speaker 4: Well, hold on a second, let me just make a

717
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Speaker 4: qu We'll get to that in just a second, because

718
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Speaker 4: I do think it's a good fight, and no Venue

719
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Speaker 4: is his name. He trains with Michael Vini Page speaking

720
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Speaker 4: of Paul Daily out of London shoot Fighters.

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal. It sucks to lose.

722
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Speaker 4: Your main event, especially with somebody that the fans at

723
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Speaker 4: least on this out of the car. I mean, the

724
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Speaker 4: the about is and the event is taking place in Milan.

725
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Speaker 4: It's not like the end of the world for a

726
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: North American audience. It's not really catered to them exactly,

727
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: and if it's obviously airing on a North American television station.

728
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Speaker 1: But the.

729
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Speaker 4: I'll just say this, it sucks to lose the Daily

730
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: versus Anderson fight. But you're right, that Cyborg fight is

731
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: kind of like the official you know, all systems go launch,

732
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Speaker 4: write a name that fans know she's defending her belt.

733
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Speaker 4: This was something of a soft opening I feel like

734
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Speaker 4: would get fans ready to go, put them in the

735
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Speaker 4: mind frame. Let's start October the right kind of a

736
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Speaker 4: way if I can. Before we get to the Novenue fight,

737
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Speaker 4: let me talk about this main event with Keel Holtz

738
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Speaker 4: and Jackson. Now that it is obviously promoted to that slot.

739
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: Denise Kilholtz is an exciting fighter. She was on the

740
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Speaker 4: Dutch national Judo team Judo black belt. Obviously she is

741
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: a I believe a world and Muayti world champion. Kate

742
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 4: Jackson has a really interesting story BC. I was like,

743
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: why is her name familiar? Where do I where do

744
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: I recall that from? She fought on the I think

745
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: season twenty of The Ultimate or the season with Tatiano

746
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 4: Suarez on The Ultimate Fighter. And if you look at

747
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: her record, she's got losses to Suarez, Valerie Laturno, and

748
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: I believe somebody else. I got to look it up

749
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: here exactly, but she's very good. I was looking at

750
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: some tape on her. Yeah, Alama Ala McFarlane, who, by

751
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: the way, is the champion in that division. She's really talented.

752
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: She has wins of Anastasi on Kova, she has wins

753
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 4: over UFC vet Ashley Yoder. She had won two on

754
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: The Ultimate Fighter before losing ultimately to Tatiana Suarez. So,

755
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: by the way, doesn't play games on the feet, goes

756
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 4: right to the ground.

757
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Speaker 1: What's interesting.

758
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: You're gonna get to this judo athletic hip toss style

759
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: in kil Holtz I suspect against the more folk style

760
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: wrist ride. You know, jiu jitsu sweep style in Kate

761
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: Jackson could be actually a pretty exciting fight on the ground,

762
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Speaker 4: even if kilholts your belt or kickboxing Women's flatweight champion.

763
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Speaker 3: Absolutely you're looking forward to this one right there. And

764
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: how about novenue the son of the Hungarian legend?

765
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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

766
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: Luke the yes right Olympic wrestler, But you know I

767
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: was keeping his wiki there played a Russian henchman and

768
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: Arnold Swarzenegger's Red Heat You remember that one with a yeah, Jim,

769
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: I do the big shout out to that old school

770
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: in this right there, A lot of young names gonna

771
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: get a close up here. Sorry for Paul Daily being off.

772
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: I am interested by the way, if Daily can get

773
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Speaker 2: back on track and get back in that MVP rematch,

774
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: because their rivals over there in Europe, Michael venmpage. That

775
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: fight the first time around in the Waltsway Grand Prix

776
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: certainly didn't live up to the expectations that we got

777
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: ourselves fired up for.

778
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Speaker 3: With two action guys.

779
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: It was very tentative, both waiting for the other to

780
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: make a mistake, and it really never happened. But if

781
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Speaker 2: you go a little bit deeper down on this card, Luke,

782
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember last year a have

783
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: you seen this shit star? Do you know nineteen year

784
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: old kickboxing star jay Juranda France?

785
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: Are you are you woke to her? Can we play

786
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: the video?

787
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember this little callback when she made her

788
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: Bella Tour kickboxing debut, kind of looked a little bit

789
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: like the ref was going to jump in. Maybe maybe

790
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: we can cue this up correctly and run it back

791
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: right there. But Jade made her presence known on this show.

792
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 3: Rev kind of stepped in and she gets ow wow,

793
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: hold that, hold that.

794
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: Indeed, she's a world muatai champion, just nineteen goldna get

795
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: an Anna Adam waiteb out excuse me on Thursday against

796
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 2: Monica Chatchikova.

797
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: Someone to look.

798
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Speaker 4: Out for hair, Luke, Yeah, again, Belle Tour's this is

799
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Speaker 4: to me. They're putting on some of the younger names,

800
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 4: some names that might be familiar to some of their

801
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: European audiences.

802
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: It's a soft opening, to be clear. By the way,

803
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: as I.

804
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: Mentioned, Novegne training with the London shoot Fighters has the

805
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: almost exact same style as MVP has that super bladed stance,

806
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: kind of hops the whole time while showing you his side.

807
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 4: So kind of one of those guys you want to

808
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 4: pay attention to. Undefeated in the amateurs, undefeated in the pros.

809
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: Long way to go before we see what he's up to,

810
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 4: but certainly a prospect to keep your eye on.

811
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Speaker 2: But I think that actually on the on the Thursday

812
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: night move the CBS Sports Network, Let's get in. And

813
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: I've been banging that drum for a long time saying,

814
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: you know, not every fight needs to be Saturday night.

815
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: I know we see some Friday ones once in a while,

816
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: but you know, we're.

817
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: Always as fight journalists and promoters looking out. We don't

818
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: want to go up against college football or whatever have

819
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: you on a Saturday night.

820
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: I like this on a Thursday night.

821
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: It sort of makes it Belator night, if you will,

822
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: in your combat sports game.

823
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit I got mixed feelings. Tell me

824
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: if you think I got something going on about this.

825
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 4: On the one hand, let's talk about the good. I

826
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 4: have always been one of these guys that's like, to

827
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: your point, so I really want to spend every Saturday

828
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 4: parked in my case in front of the computer, in

829
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: many people's cases, in front of the TV. You know,

830
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 4: just constantly spending my saturdays doing this if I don't

831
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: necessarily have to, it gets a little old, and you know,

832
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: the middle of your week is just constant anticipation and

833
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: waiting and waiting and waiting. Hey, it's nice to break

834
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: it up sometimes. That Widman versus Muno's fight, which is

835
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 4: one of my favorite fights FM be Chrius Wibman.

836
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: We're hitting with that slashing elbow. That was a Wednesday night.

837
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Speaker 4: I think Stupi am Mi Yochich had a fight that

838
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: was a Wednesday night as well. I like it when

839
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 4: they break it up in the middle of the week.

840
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of fun. So for me personally, I am

841
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: all I'm just ready for it. Completely on the other

842
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 4: their hand, at least in the short run. BC, the

843
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: NFL is on Thursdays, that is going to be a

844
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: hard thing to go up again. Scran at different channels.

845
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: I get the whole thing. I'm just saying. The reason

846
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: why promoters go on Saturday more often is you're generally

847
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 4: going to get better ratings. Bellatore making a bit of

848
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: a calculated call to say we might dial back that

849
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: big Saturday night anticipation. But we'll have a home and

850
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: we'll be uninterrupted. But there is the NFL football component there,

851
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 4: so I'm a little bit mixed on it.

852
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not all year, Luke. Okay, we'll see what

853
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: happens there. I'm not discounting that. That's a legitimate competition,

854
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: believe me.

855
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: But you know, anyone want to make a Monday night series,

856
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: I'd be down for that.

857
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: Oh there's football that night too.

858
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. What about Tuesday night?

859
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 3: Oh wait, how about Tuesday morning? Anybody free at that point?

860
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: Let's do that. Let's breakfast with Belatour. I can do that,

861
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: Luke Okay.

862
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 4: Still, Nevertheless, it's going to be interesting to see where

863
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: they go. One last note of this. I made a

864
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: list BC. Let's see if I got them all right?

865
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: All the places that Bellatore has had a television home ready, ESPN, Deportes,

866
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 4: Fox Sportsnet, Nowtional, MTV two Epics with an X Spike

867
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: was turned into Paramount, which then went simultaneously with Dezonne

868
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: and now CBS Sports Net.

869
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,479
Speaker 1: Do you realize a couple of things.

870
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: One Bellatore was actually with Spike slash Paramount longer than

871
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: UFC was. I don't think a lot of folks realized

872
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: that they had a longer run on that network than

873
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: UFC ever did two. You know, I'm really I'm really

874
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 4: hoping that this fit in the Viacom CBS family and

875
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: the CBS Sports and in particular.

876
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: Really began listen.

877
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 4: They it wasn't a good fit for what Paramount ultimately became, right,

878
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 4: so they had to move them away. On the other hand,

879
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 4: they've kind of undergorn revenue. They changed into Scott They

880
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: went from tournaments, tournaments to no tournaments.

881
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: Now they got kickboxing.

882
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: Their their core mission, their core identity has changed, and

883
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: with it, they've had a lot of different broadcast partners.

884
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: It's going to be good, I think. And I want

885
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: to find them.

886
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 4: In a place where they have a marriage with a

887
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 4: production partner that's lasting and that you remember them for

888
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 4: that marriage, you remember spiking UFC together. You know, it's

889
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: going to be interesting to see if CBS and which

890
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 4: you know, label that pays me. But it'll be interesting

891
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: to see if CBS Sports and Bellator can forge the

892
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: same kind of shared identity for sure.

893
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: And also the prelim is going to be airing exclusively

894
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 2: on cbssports dot com.

895
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: Great little website right there. If you are not a

896
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: regular visitor.

897
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: Luke quick trivia question. Do you remember Beorn Season one

898
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: of Bellator? Who was the announced team on that?

899
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 4: John Annik was the play by play ConA second? And

900
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: your color was?

901
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: You know, I don't remember who was it.

902
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: I believe it was Glory color analyst Joseph Valtalini if I'm.

903
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 4: Correct, Oh, Bazooka Joe, who, by the way, has a

904
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 4: tremendous YouTube channel.

905
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: That'd be he was. He's a great commentator. He's a

906
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: great commentator.

907
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: Hey, he's great with Todd Grisham, friend of the program.

908
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: Shout out to their al.

909
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: Right, Shostol, big Todd buffetop a short time, had a

910
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: short run in UFC, but his call of Gaechie Johnson,

911
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: this is Justin's ultimate highlight.

912
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna lift forever. I think it was great.

913
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: All Right, Primo Primo is what it is?

914
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 4: Uh?

915
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Okay, with that in mind, BC, let's cuckle. Oh you

916
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: know what.

917
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: No, we have to do a new segment that we're

918
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: going to debut ABC, a new segment called I don't

919
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 4: know if we have any imaging for it.

920
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't think we do just yet.

921
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 4: Dead wrongs no, no, no, dead wrong, like the song

922
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 4: from Biggie after he died, Dead wrong. This is where

923
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 4: you and I are going to revisit things that we

924
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 4: totally botched on Monday. YESBC, we're gonna hold our own

925
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 4: feet to the fire. The listeners are not gonna let

926
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: us get away with just saying false fake news. So

927
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 4: this is where we come to correct it, all right.

928
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: First, yes, why don't you stand by and stand back.

929
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: For a second?

930
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: All right, thank you.

931
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I'm not a white supremacist. I don't need to.

932
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: Now we have two of these we have to acknowledge.

933
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: I think we have the video ready, do we not?

934
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 4: Jay or Corey whoever is in my ear? Do we

935
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: have the video ready? I'm not hearing anything a yes

936
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 4: or a no. Would Suffice speak on it? Speak on

937
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 4: it in each please?

938
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: This is somebody asking at Asnya about his nipple.

939
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we we came out Luke and said we

940
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 3: didn't believe anyone actually asked att A Sonya about his

941
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 3: nipple after UFC what was it two fifty three over

942
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: the weekend.

943
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: Let me hear this, Cory, you do not have the video.

944
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 3: All right, well, right, guys.

945
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: We definitely sent it yesterday. That's okay, let's give correction

946
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 4: where it's due.

947
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: BC, let's give it.

948
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 4: Jose Young's from MMA Fighting asked Adasania at the post

949
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 4: fight presser about it. At Asnia out there saying, why

950
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 4: are they looking at my titties, which was not much

951
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 4: of an answer.

952
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: He deflected, yeah, it was a little bit of a deflect.

953
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: Subsequently, I believe at Asnya was on Aerial show and

954
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: he said, you know, he didn't want to comment on

955
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: it because he didn't know what ghino was. And once

956
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: he did research, he said, Wikipedia says ghino happens in

957
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: both pecs, not one, so.

958
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: It couldn't be Guyino.

959
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: And he has gotten subsequent medical tests to get it

960
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: looked at.

961
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: And Ariel did buckle.

962
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: Down and say, hey, you know, are you on steroids?

963
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: Have you taken steroids? And he laughed at it and

964
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: said no.

965
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: So that's the truth.

966
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: We didn't have all the information, of course when we

967
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: did Monday's show, but shout out to Jose Young's taking

968
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: one for the team here and I hope he's still

969
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: credentialed next time, and I'll.

970
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: Give credit words due.

971
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: I'll give credit words due Aeriel ask him as well,

972
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: deserves a bit of a nod there, but by the way,

973
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: like it definitely, I mean, I.

974
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Don't know what it is.

975
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: I'm not a doctor, but can you get Guyino unilaterally from.

976
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: Ped Us, Yes you can.

977
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 4: Now, Again, who the hell knows, because what he actually

978
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 4: said in the Aero interview is it's been slowly happening

979
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: over time and it just sort of culminated in this.

980
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 4: He actually got a medical screening the day of that

981
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: interview he did with Ariel, So we'll see what happens there.

982
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: And as we indicated before, there's all kinds of reasons

983
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: why it could happen. I'm just sort of pointing out

984
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: that it happened in one is not evidence that it

985
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: was not necessarily something a little bit more on the

986
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 4: nefarious side.

987
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: I want to go with the rough sex excuse, right,

988
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: like titty twister gone bad something like that.

989
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 3: Right, people would have backed right off, like, Okay, bro,

990
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 3: you're a freak. That's cool, It's totally cool. You you know,

991
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: do whatever whatever goes on in your house. That's fine.

992
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: Bro.

993
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I banged everyone's mother who was a hater and

994
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: a you know, at moviepoopshoot dot com and this is

995
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 4: the result. All right, you want to take us to

996
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: our second dead WRONGBC.

997
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna blame Jay for this. Jay is currently

998
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: not in our ear hole. Shout out to Menietzsche for

999
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: taking that role this week. But on Monday, when we

1000
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: played the outrageous Bob Barker crocodile video in which some

1001
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: old white guy got almost had his shoulder ripped off, Jay,

1002
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: with very little research, jumped in to say, no, guys,

1003
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: you're wrong.

1004
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: Bob Barker's actually dead. So we did the you know,

1005
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: please get all your old people spade a neuterrd.

1006
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: Sorry to the Barker family, the long microphone, all those

1007
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: dropped lawsuits.

1008
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: You had a great run, Bob, Sorry about all that.

1009
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1010
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 2: No, he turns out still alive. Look turns out he's

1011
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: that old bastard's ninety six. Bro, Jay, what are you

1012
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: doing to us?

1013
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: Jay? All right, do we have the video? Can we

1014
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: throw to the Bob video? Please?

1015
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do we have the Bob video? We don't have

1016
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: that either.

1017
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: Oh wow, all right, hey guys, tune into Wednesdays. You're

1018
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: gonna a lot of you know, a lot of me

1019
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: wearing wrestling t shirts.

1020
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, we will.

1021
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 4: We don't have the video that they're saying they're gonna

1022
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: have a video of that.

1023
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: I guess what was the video.

1024
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: Bob Barker was in the hospital recently and Adam Sandler

1025
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: did what.

1026
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: Was actually five years ago, but it was hilarious. Bob

1027
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 2: was in the hospital when he was ninety one. Adam

1028
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: Sandler not that one. Although I'll watch this one over

1029
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: and over again.

1030
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for this is this is the Bob Barker

1031
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: want to be Sandler.

1032
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if I hope everybody saw this one

1033
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: where that I'm referencing Sandler five years ago went into

1034
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: Bob's hotel room and they filmed Luke a a new

1035
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: fight between them, and Sandler ripped a prosthetic leg off

1036
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: the guy in the bed next to him and started

1037
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: beating it.

1038
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 3: There were bedpans being thrown. It was classic classic television.

1039
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, very good.

1040
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 4: Uh well, that was a bit of a dud for

1041
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: the first time we did that BC.

1042
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if that were Yeah, I think dead

1043
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: wrong is is dead on arrival? Luke, Okay, we're gonna

1044
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna keep experimenting hopefully we have you know, dongs

1045
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: for donks eventually, Luke, where we just yeah.

1046
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Well we have to. But here's the thing.

1047
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: I want to keep the segment because we have to

1048
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: have one where reacknowledge the errors that have happened. Yes,

1049
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not sure who to blame for this one.

1050
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna blame Jay because it's convenient. But yeah, we're

1051
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: supposed to have those assets. All right, what are you

1052
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: gonna do? All right, well, let's let's wrap on this

1053
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: one for the Wednesday show. We started off the program

1054
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: today ABC talking about Connor and what was the situation

1055
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: with Dustin Parier. Let's put that aside for just a second,

1056
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: but let's keep talking about Connor. I really want to

1057
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 4: discuss his future and where you think things might be headed,

1058
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 4: because I know you were very pass im on Monday show,

1059
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: but you at least would I think, would agree. There

1060
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 4: are a series of plausible scenarios about which direction things

1061
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 4: can go. And I don't just mean in twenty twenty, frankly,

1062
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 4: even twenty twenty one. Let's say the next five years.

1063
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: I don't think he has ten years left as a

1064
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 4: prize fighter, but maybe five if he wanted them, which

1065
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 4: is obviously a big if as well. What to you

1066
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 4: is the most likely scenario with the following caveat the

1067
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 4: one thing I was thinking about with him and why,

1068
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: like we had alluded to it earlier, why were things

1069
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 4: with him and Connor? Excuse me, Daana so broken? Part

1070
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: of it is that his method of success from me,

1071
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: because he fought three times in twenty fifteen and three

1072
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: times in.

1073
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: Twenty sixteen BC.

1074
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 4: I mean, you were getting Connor almost every quarter out

1075
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: there competing, and Ronda Rausi was still out there as well.

1076
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, those were the heydays for the UFC.

1077
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: But he came along at a time where he knew

1078
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: how to manipulate the existing systems, that being the media ecosystem,

1079
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: that being how pay per view worked in ratings and

1080
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: blah blah blah.

1081
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: And he was like the ultimate He was the ultimate

1082
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: company man because he would take on fights on short notice,

1083
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: Luke and take chances, which always gets you ahead in UFC.

1084
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: But he was also equally so well aware of from

1085
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 2: a negotiation standpoint of what he brought to the table.

1086
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 2: He was really the ultimate businessman, which is why he's

1087
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 2: the pay per view record.

1088
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: Holder okay, but he did that for a certain kind

1089
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: of business arrangement that is no longer in place. This

1090
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: is my question to you. In this new ESPN plus era,

1091
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: where they go exclusively through them, they can sell a

1092
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 4: lot less than they get guaranteed money plus gravy on

1093
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 4: top they have numerous other existing contracts for overseas broadcast

1094
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: that is just guaranteed revenue coming in. UFC's got more

1095
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: guaranteed revenue in that sense than they ever have in

1096
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 4: the history of their company. Frankly, I think part of

1097
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 4: what is happening here is maybe they're fatigued with Connor.

1098
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: Maybe if they want to preserve him.

1099
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 4: For KABEEB, can he be the same businessman for his

1100
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: own success in a model where what he used before

1101
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: does it really work as well in this new paradigm.

1102
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: That's a very good question to start this off, Luke,

1103
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 2: because that leads me to believe, which you know, even

1104
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: without the business model change, this could have been the

1105
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: direction where we would go anyway. At this point, Connor

1106
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 2: is still only thirty two, let's establish that. But two

1107
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: fights in four years, fresh off a point at the

1108
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: end of twenty sixteen when he knocked out Eddi Alvarez

1109
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: in his lightweight debut, where you literally could not put

1110
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: a ceiling on what was possible for him. When he

1111
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: would talk trash about going up and taking Tyrone Woodley's belt.

1112
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: You know, your knee jerk is like, oh, come on,

1113
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: he'd get wrestled to death. But party is like, dude,

1114
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: I gotta see it right, fight Floyd. I got to

1115
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 2: see it right. There was a level of superheroism that

1116
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: we'd rarely seen in this sport.

1117
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 3: Because of the business change, It's.

1118
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 2: More likely, though, mixed with where his personality seems to be, Luke,

1119
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: that he would exclusively be a clout chaser.

1120
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: He would exclusively be a guy who goes after the

1121
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: biggest fight.

1122
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: Available at every single turn, maybe only once a year,

1123
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: maybe like Floyd Mayweather's welterweight run until he did sign

1124
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: that very large deal with Showtime at twenty thirteen and

1125
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: went on that run of fighting twice a year for

1126
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: three straight years. I think that's more likely, Luke, because

1127
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: you know, how do you offset the fact that you

1128
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 2: won't make as much by staying busy, Well, you make

1129
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: sure when you do come back that it's the largest

1130
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: event possible and within that grounds, I think, Luke, he's

1131
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: only going to be in title fights when those title

1132
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: fights are convenient in that if it's a rematch with

1133
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: Habib and there's a storyline and he can set pay.

1134
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: Per view records, well then he's a title fighter again.

1135
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: But outside of that, Luke, I think we have all

1136
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 2: the makings, you know for a slow exit with which

1137
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: is a couple of big bangs here and there.

1138
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: But I think that's really maybe now we saw the

1139
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: DM so I can counteract that.

1140
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: But that's really maybe one of the biggest problems of

1141
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: this COVID thing for UFC. As a fight fan, Connor

1142
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: was possibly coming off that cowboy when looking to have

1143
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: a legitimate fight season and fight on a regular basis

1144
00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: for the first.

1145
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 3: Time in four years.

1146
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: And to get your response on this, I want to

1147
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: take you back to that Connor fight because I think

1148
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: it's important, Luke. There's two ways you can look at it,

1149
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: or maybe you can blend it into both. But that

1150
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: was either the perfect absolute get well fight anybody could

1151
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: have ever gotten in a sport that never gives you

1152
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: stay busies and get well fights of a washed cowboy

1153
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: who never delivers in the big moment, can be starched quickly,

1154
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: and Connor took perfect advantage of it, and all of

1155
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: us you know who were jumping up and down, thinking, Wow,

1156
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: he could really be back, We can make big fights.

1157
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: It was all fools Gold or Luke, you can go

1158
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: back and rewatch those forty somethings seconds and see a

1159
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: pretty dialed in sharp guy, And you can go back

1160
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: during that fight week and see a guy who was

1161
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 2: actually pretty damn humble and seemed really happy to be back,

1162
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: and seemed like he actually did diego Sanchez DM slides notwithstanding,

1163
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: he actually did want to get back and plug in

1164
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: and climb the ladder and be the guy again, not

1165
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 2: just the guy who parachutes in for the big fights,

1166
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: but the guy again.

1167
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: So I want to ask you this, Luke. Are you

1168
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 3: more apt to.

1169
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: Believe it was all fools gold and he was going

1170
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: to go to the diego type rute anyway? Or did

1171
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: you see something and can you pair it with.

1172
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: The Hibbib loss?

1173
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 2: All right, it's always going to be a bad matchup

1174
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: for Carter versus Hibib. Always he could lose that way

1175
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: ten out of ten times.

1176
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: Yet I think you'd agree with me.

1177
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: It was coming off two years off, and he wanted

1178
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 2: to kind of say without saying during Cowboy fight week

1179
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: that there was a lot of extracurricular stuff going in

1180
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: the build to the Hibbib fight. I think his actions publicly,

1181
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: press conferences, et cetera, bus window, et cetera show you

1182
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: that that, yeah, he was in shape, but he wasn't

1183
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: mentally where he needed to be. There may have been

1184
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: some fun and games going on outside the scenes that

1185
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: didn't help him be the same wired guy. I feel like,

1186
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: whether it was full gold or not against Cowboy, that

1187
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: we actually saw a dialed back, in full speed ahead

1188
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: guy and he could have done that to even better

1189
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: fighters than Cowboy. But I think the quarantine sadly may

1190
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: have broken that up.

1191
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 3: Luke, what was there? How do you read this whole situation?

1192
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: Who was Connor in February when he or January whatever,

1193
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 3: when he destroyed when he destroyed Cowboy?

1194
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: And you know, do you give any credence to the

1195
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: idea that that wasn't really him against Abib?

1196
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: How much you know? Are you gonna believe in all

1197
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 3: these different hot plates I'm presenting to you.

1198
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: I I mean, who is he? Who is he not?

1199
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: It's tautological, but he is who he is. Here's what

1200
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: I mean by that. Let's say Paulo Costa fought Israel

1201
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 4: outa SIGNYA next month. Do I think the second fight

1202
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 4: would at a bare minimum look differently than the first one.

1203
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: He still might lose, but would it look like the

1204
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 4: first one?

1205
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: No, I don't think that it would. I think it

1206
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: would look very different.

1207
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: He would try something different and maybe calamitously, But I

1208
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: don't you know, he certainly would learn from this one

1209
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 4: and make some kind of adjustments that he's capable of

1210
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 4: making out a sign You of course would make some too.

1211
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: But I am of the belief that, like if Connor

1212
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 4: fought kuld Beb again, would I favor Habib to win? Yes, yes,

1213
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: I would do. I think that Connor could make a

1214
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 4: stronger account of himself. I absolutely do. Connor is in

1215
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 4: this weird position where his critics say he can do

1216
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: nothing and his supporters say he walks on water, so

1217
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 4: it makes getting an accurate read of his actual abilities

1218
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 4: kind of hard.

1219
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: And then to your point, you take the two years.

1220
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: Off, well, you know, there was the stupid ass boxing match,

1221
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: but you know, two years off and then in MMA,

1222
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 4: and then you know, maybe he was training properly. Maybe

1223
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 4: he wasn't, and you know, God only knows. I take

1224
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: that seriously.

1225
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: I fully believe that that is real. I think he

1226
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: actually is.

1227
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 4: A very very good fighter with a couple of really

1228
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 4: difficult shortcomings to get over. I don't think his guys

1229
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: think is good, and I don't think it's ever going

1230
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 4: to be good. A little bit like Tyren Woodley in

1231
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 4: that regard.

1232
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 3: But was it good at two? Though fair Connor was

1233
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: good at two?

1234
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: It was good enough. That's the thing. It's not fatal.

1235
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: It's not fatal in but it's never gonna be something

1236
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: where it's like, okay, this camp, I can go five

1237
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: rounds and I'll be breathing through my nose by the

1238
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 4: twenty fourth minute's He's not like that. I don't think

1239
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 4: he's built for that kind of a thing. I think

1240
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 4: the second thing i'd say is beyond just that that

1241
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 4: being a known weakness, you know, the ground game. I

1242
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: actually think he's got a good ground game. I don't

1243
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 4: think he's got a great one. But people kind of

1244
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 4: say that it's it's worse than it is. It's really

1245
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: not true. But what he did mostly against Kobeeb, was

1246
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 4: like oh, I shut down X I shut down why

1247
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 4: Kudbee was conservative in the ground game early. And secondly,

1248
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 4: there's three levels to jiu jitsu. There is survive, there's defense,

1249
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 4: and then there's offense. It was a lot of the

1250
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 4: surviving defense. There was no real guard play from him,

1251
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 4: there was no real sweeping, there was no real separation.

1252
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 4: He was able to create with you know, various kinds

1253
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 4: of butterfly hook lifts or whatever. And so to me,

1254
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 4: it's like, I don't think that's a fight he can win,

1255
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: But like, do I think he can be more than

1256
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: what he has been? I absolutely believe that is true,

1257
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 4: and I think you got a glimpse of that against Yeah,

1258
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: maybe Seroni was just worn the fuck down by.

1259
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: The time they fought.

1260
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: I honestly think kub Be not being in the equation,

1261
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: we still don't know enough about Justin's limits. We have

1262
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 4: no some but not this new version, so it's a

1263
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 4: little harder to make a sense of things.

1264
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: But Kuldbee being there. Do I think Connor could be

1265
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: champion again? Yes? I do.

1266
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: I'm not predicting that will happen or that he's my

1267
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 4: number one leader to get there, But do I see

1268
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 4: that as a plausible scenario, BC, I absolutely do. I mean,

1269
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 4: here's what I really just can't wrap my head around.

1270
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: I understand that the COVID situation it fucked everyone's life up,

1271
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: not just in this country, in South America, in Europe,

1272
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: in Asia, everywhere. Everyone has taken a bite of the

1273
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: shit sandwich on this one, some bigger than others. But

1274
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 4: it's not been great for anybody. So UFC notwithstanding, and

1275
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 4: I get that they have really reprioritized their business around

1276
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 4: efficiency's sake, you know, just the ability to cross the

1277
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 4: finish line, make the events.

1278
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: I get all of it.

1279
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: And maybe BC we didn't talk about this either. Maybe

1280
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: that money they got from Abu Dhabi to bring their

1281
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 4: shows to Fight Island, maybe that sighte fee they got,

1282
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: maybe it was a shitload, and they're just like, we

1283
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: don't need Connor the same way that we did.

1284
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I don't.

1285
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 4: I just can't quite figure out, unless you are totally

1286
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: cynical about Connor, how you haven't put him in a

1287
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: Jorge Masmadoal fight. How you haven't found a way to

1288
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 4: do a DS fight. I've talked to Diaz as people,

1289
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: They're ready and willing to do that fight. That is

1290
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: not some hard thing to get them to cross the

1291
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 4: finish line or one of these other.

1292
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: Fights he's asking for.

1293
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 4: Dude, to me, everyone's like, why was he asking for

1294
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: Diego because he's desperate. He had asked for all these

1295
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 4: other guys, and Anderson Silva and all these other ones,

1296
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 4: and none of them came to fruition BC. I. You know,

1297
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 4: we're asking about his future. His future is hard to understand.

1298
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: But as long as he can't get along with UFC,

1299
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 4: it's going to be limited no matter what.

1300
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: So is it more likely that his future if Habib's

1301
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: true to his word saying one, you know I'm not

1302
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: fighting Connor again and two I'm done in April right

1303
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: of next year.

1304
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: That's my final fight. Does Connor's future begin when that

1305
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: division reopens in.

1306
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to.

1307
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: Like I don't recommend him boxing many Pacquiao, and I'm

1308
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 4: pretty sure you don't recommend it either, But like, tell

1309
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 4: me which makes more sense Jorge versus Connor or Orgey

1310
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 4: versus Colby. Now I'm not saying either fight is bad, well,

1311
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 4: but are Here's the thing you see, would't you agree?

1312
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: They're different fights, not just different people of course, but

1313
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 4: I mean they ultimately solve different problems.

1314
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, they do.

1315
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 2: I think it does come down to a certain degree

1316
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: of until that Habib rematch is off the table. For Dana,

1317
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: I just don't see him wanting to do anything but

1318
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: set that up. I mean, he would have given Connor

1319
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: the ability to fill in had somebody gotten injured. But

1320
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: to Connor's point and maybe credit, you know, he's nobody's

1321
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: filling He's not gonna be the backup for anybody who's

1322
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 2: not gonna be a late replacement.

1323
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: That's fine. I'm not a necessarily against that.

1324
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 2: I kind of think he should have come back already

1325
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: and fought yas I really mean that. But the spirit

1326
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: of this question, Yeah, you can make a lot of

1327
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: money off off the Masvidoll fight right now if you're

1328
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: a UFC trying to push Connor.

1329
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 3: But the fact that they don't want to. Part of

1330
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: that equation is this, you know, stadiums. Once we can

1331
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 3: open the football stadium and get twenty thirty forty thousand

1332
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: and they're you know, sixty thousand, that could change a

1333
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: lot of things.

1334
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: But I think until that fight is off the table,

1335
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: because Habib Connor too is is really the only.

1336
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: Fight that I think you can get Mayweather numbers on

1337
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: now four billion. But you can get Mayweather numbers on.

1338
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: If you do it right, If you could revitalize the

1339
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: hatred between them, that's the true absolute, Uh. We don't

1340
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: have to take cut corners and bring in the retire boxer.

1341
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: That's the two active guys who hate each other, that

1342
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: are two of the best in the game. That's that's

1343
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: that is the one as a promoter that you can't

1344
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: let die. So until that dies, maybe maybe we don't

1345
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: see him come back, you know, on that type of basis.

1346
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: But it sucks, you know, he should have been back

1347
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: two three times this year and we would have found

1348
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: out a lot of bottom luke. We could have scratched

1349
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: off some of these grudge matches, we could have done

1350
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: a lot of things. I do tend to believe there

1351
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: is a lot left in that tank, though, if he's

1352
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: dialed in, and I think a lot of those little

1353
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: signs that I talked about the week of the Cowboy fight,

1354
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: and also when you look back at that Habif fight,

1355
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: it just didn't seem like him. There were no starch

1356
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: on the punches. Mentally, he was just so all over

1357
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 2: the place, Luke that that's not an excuse for the loss.

1358
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 2: He went head to head in the biggest fight of

1359
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: all time and he came up empty.

1360
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: Right, he didn't have it. He got knocked down by

1361
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: a wrestler. But I don't think that was him, so

1362
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: to speak. And it kind of is a tough situation

1363
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: now when we look back over the last four years. Okay,

1364
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: Connor kashed in.

1365
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: He put he put worldwide fame and gluttony of wealth

1366
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 2: above the sort of you know, foundational thing of I

1367
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: want to be great, you know.

1368
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: And I'm not here to damn that.

1369
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: Right.

1370
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 3: People are in this game for different reasons. This game

1371
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: will take a lot from you. He has generational wealth

1372
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: and an all time brand and has a whiskey line

1373
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: because of it and all that great stuff.

1374
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: But look how damaging was that to his fighter legacy

1375
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: when you consider he was walking on water at Madison

1376
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: Square Garden in twenty sixteen, when you know, when he

1377
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: took a part at Eddie Alvarez with that six punch

1378
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: combination or whatever. At that point, you're like, this guy

1379
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: is gonna be in the goat table and he's going

1380
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: to compete with the silvas and gsps for that if

1381
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: he keeps this up and keeps climbing up and wait,

1382
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: And it's not that we didn't see limitations there.

1383
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 3: We saw him loose to nate all that. But do

1384
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: you think there was a little.

1385
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Bit of selling your fighter legacy soul for the fame

1386
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: and the control that he ended up getting over his

1387
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: career that really no one else has because of it.

1388
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 4: There's two kinds of changes to people who get a

1389
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: little fame and a little celebrity in this world, and

1390
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 4: one is that it changes them internally while the rest

1391
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 4: of the world doesn't, and it puts them at odds

1392
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: with it. Or they become something through fame and popularity

1393
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: and then hold on to it too long, where now

1394
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 4: the rest of the world changed around you and you didn't,

1395
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 4: and that puts you at odds with it. It's hard

1396
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 4: to stay current with the world, right, It's hard. I mean,

1397
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 4: you know, we're two forty forty something, you know, white

1398
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 4: dads like we don't know what's cool anymore, and you

1399
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: gotta let that shit goes. We still have value to

1400
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 4: society BC. But I'm being serious, like it's large, it's.

1401
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: Sure, I'm wearing I have no idea what's cool anymore.

1402
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't.

1403
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I see what's trending on YouTube videos and

1404
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, holy crap, I don't even know who these

1405
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: people are anymore. And you know, when you're twenty one,

1406
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 4: you don't ever think that way. You don't you ever

1407
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 4: think you're gonna age out. And so he's not aged

1408
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: out in that sense. But what I mean to say

1409
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,959
Speaker 4: is to go back to the original point in these COVID.

1410
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: Times, which I do think really was a game changer everything.

1411
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 4: I know you're talking about two five, Give me just

1412
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: a second, what people really want and why?

1413
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: Why? How are we saying the UFC is killing it.

1414
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 4: Yes, they're putting on some big fights, but in general,

1415
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: it's because they're just consistent.

1416
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: Man.

1417
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 4: There's just a consistent presence in your life. They're reliable,

1418
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: they're there, they're visible, you know.

1419
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: And I think in.

1420
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 4: These COVID times, with so much uncertainty and the Titan's

1421
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 4: gonna play because the bunch of their players got COVID

1422
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 4: the last couple of days and blah blah blah, you

1423
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 4: just feel like the world is changing around you and

1424
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 4: slipping and like the best thing to be right now

1425
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 4: is consistent. Connor at two oh five was like, okay,

1426
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: I'm playing with house money. Remember at that postfight presser

1427
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 4: with his glasses on, Like me, he was like, I

1428
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 4: want shares in the company. He already knew he was

1429
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: going to ask for that when he beat Eddie Alvarez.

1430
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 4: He knew that was the plan and he did it,

1431
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 4: and a bunch of us were like, I don't think

1432
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 4: that's the worst idea in the world. It was an

1433
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 4: amazing way to manipulate things. And part of that new

1434
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: era was, Okay, I took every Tom Dick and Harry

1435
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 4: fight I had to on the way up here, on

1436
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 4: schedules that were not accommodating, had the knee injury heading

1437
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: into the Mendesk fight, and blah blah blah. I'm not

1438
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 4: doing that shit anymore. I'm gonna pick my shots. I'm

1439
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 4: gonna be very careful. If I want to sit i'll

1440
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 4: sit out. If I want to take a Mayweather fight,

1441
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 4: I will that style of just on the bench when

1442
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 4: I feel like it.

1443
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that works right now.

1444
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 4: That to me is the issue. So you're like, you're saying,

1445
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 4: did he play it wrong? From that moment well in

1446
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 4: the world in which he was playing it. No, no,

1447
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 4: I don't think he necessarily was misplaying it. It was

1448
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 4: frustrating for you and I, But was he really damaging

1449
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 4: his stock per se? Maybe it went on a little long,

1450
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 4: a little bit too far he played it, But honestly,

1451
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the real thing. I think the

1452
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 4: world has changed around us and he hasn't adapted yet,

1453
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 4: and until he does.

1454
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't know what to say

1455
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: about him.

1456
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: There's a romantic notion of you know, what, could his

1457
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: fighter legacy have capped out at if he didn't walk

1458
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: away in twenty sixteen. But there's also the I mean,

1459
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 2: you know, tell me if I'm wrong here. There's also

1460
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: the reality of freaking Habib Normaga medalf If Connor had

1461
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: stayed act.

1462
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 3: Let's say he took six.

1463
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: Months off for the birth of his son to open

1464
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, Right, you're still gonna.

1465
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: Have to see Habib, right, you know what I mean?

1466
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 3: So who would he have fought in seventeen and eighteen?

1467
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: In your eyes, Luke, what do you have lost to Habib? Done?

1468
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 3: The trilogy with Nate down the rematch with a bebe.

1469
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean we could be in some ways in the

1470
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: same spot anyway, correct, right.

1471
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 4: I Mean here's the thing, Like, to your point, if

1472
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 4: he had stuck around in those years, who would he

1473
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 4: have fought? Well, there was no shortage of names you

1474
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 4: could have lined up. But given his status and given

1475
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: what he was trying to do, and let's be clear

1476
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 4: about it, Mayweather said this, and I think it's true.

1477
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't say it as a slide.

1478
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: I'd say it because no one else was even eligible

1479
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 4: to do it. He was borrowing the Mayweather game plan,

1480
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 4: like I'm so elevated, I'm going to have my own

1481
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 4: promotions company, I'm going to be a partner with the

1482
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 4: networks and blah blah blah.

1483
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: He was trying to do that.

1484
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 4: Of course, he went his own way with the with

1485
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 4: the with the alcohol sales, and God bless him for it.

1486
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: But I.

1487
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 4: Don't begrudge him not taking those fights again. I think

1488
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 4: my one real issue was he stayed way too long

1489
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 4: out overall, and then the l with the fight against

1490
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 4: Mayweather wasn't great. The other thing I'd say is you

1491
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 4: want to borrow the Mayweather game plan? This isn't boxing, right,

1492
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: Here's what I mean to say, Mayweather had such an

1493
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 4: advantage over his opponents and was so far ahead of

1494
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 4: them technically that he could take time off. He also

1495
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 4: BC as you will know, did he not have multiple retirements?

1496
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 4: Yes he did, and he came back and he would

1497
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 4: still win fights.

1498
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: But he was very selective, I think, not very selective.

1499
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: He was a little bit more selective in the last

1500
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: two chapters of his career in terms of who he picked.

1501
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 4: But here's the deal. That game caught up with him too,

1502
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: but he still had such a gap.

1503
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: That it might have narrowed, but not narrowed enough to matter.

1504
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: My Donna got.

1505
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: Pretty close with the courtchscrew punches, but not really. You

1506
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 4: can't really do that in modern mma. Modern mma is changing.

1507
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: Like that, and he wasn't, and Connor wasn't DJ or

1508
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 2: John Jones where he had that type of game. Connor

1509
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: was almost winning fights you didn't think he could have,

1510
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 2: which was almost like old Muhammad Ali. And if there's

1511
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,439
Speaker 2: any comparison between the two there so you're right, it's

1512
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: not the type of bill in Foundation where taking time

1513
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: off will ever help you.

1514
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: That's right.

1515
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 4: So, but the last point of this besoning, I'll pitch

1516
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: you back to you here in just a second. Is

1517
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 4: you know he was thinking promotionally as a businessman, how

1518
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: do I exert muscle for maximum gain? And then meanwhile

1519
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 4: the game just kind of moved along, and by the

1520
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 4: time he wanted to go back to MMA, it was

1521
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: a little bit, not too little too late, but it

1522
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 4: was a little too late for that particular moment against Habib.

1523
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 4: Still he is out there training. I don't know how

1524
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 4: well anyone's guess.

1525
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: We both, I think, share this view.

1526
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: It's not it's not the end of the world's he

1527
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 4: still has more left in the tank. So I pitch

1528
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: it back to you in the SENSEBC, let's say he

1529
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 4: really has enough to get back out there and compete

1530
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 4: in UFC in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one and so forth.

1531
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 4: We talk about how much losing, how bad a fight

1532
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 4: with Pachiel might go, but he's already having trouble negotiating

1533
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 4: with UFC to get what he wants. Does part of

1534
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 4: you think that maybe the UFC wants this Pacquiao fight

1535
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 4: to happen because he would lose so badly it would

1536
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: drain his stock and he would be forced to do

1537
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: not whatever they wanted, but it would significantly limit his options.

1538
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,959
Speaker 2: I like that back end conspiracy theory right there, because

1539
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: you always have to think you know Dana's where he is,

1540
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 2: not because he's a jerk, because he's freaking smart, right,

1541
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: So there are you always gotta be one step ahead.

1542
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: But no, I think the damage to the brand isn't

1543
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 2: worth it. So here's the deal, let me come back.

1544
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 2: Is Connor smarter than we think? Does he have no

1545
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: plans to box pack?

1546
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: Yew?

1547
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 2: And this is all a ruse to get the price

1548
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: in situation that he wants in the UFC. Also in play, Luke,

1549
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you with a quick, rapid fire. I

1550
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: need a yes or no no caveats here about Connor,

1551
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: where he's been and where he's going, Luke, are you

1552
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: ready right now?

1553
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: Is he one of the ten best fighters in the world? Yes?

1554
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: Or no?

1555
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: Pound for pound Yes?

1556
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 4: No?

1557
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: Will he ever reach the level critically not commercially.

1558
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: That he was against Eddie Alvarez in two thousand at

1559
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: two o five Again.

1560
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: No?

1561
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: Will he ever fucking bar though it's pretty freaking yeah?

1562
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: Will he ever beat a top fifteen pound pound fighter? Again?

1563
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: Yes?

1564
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 3: Okay? And if yes or no, aside.

1565
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: If you had the handicap the next year, your best

1566
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 2: guess where's he going?

1567
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 3: What's it going to look like?

1568
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 4: I kind of tend to think he does fight Pacio.

1569
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's the most likely scenario, but

1570
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: I do think he's trying. I mean, here's the thing,

1571
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 4: obously that I'm trying to wrestle with. And maybe you

1572
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 4: can help me imagine for me just a second. We're

1573
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 4: talking about his future, right, it is really what it's

1574
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 4: all about. We're drawing lessons from his past about what

1575
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 4: it all means. Could you imagine if he sits out

1576
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 4: the rest of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one and

1577
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 4: then decides to come back when at that point it's

1578
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: really too late. We're talking about the game shifting. You

1579
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: can you imagine much it'llle shift in the next year?

1580
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: Like what would be the story there? Like what would

1581
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 4: people say? Would they blame connor would they blame Dana?

1582
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 4: I mean, on some level, you can blame who you want.

1583
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 4: It's a loss for us all. It's a loss for

1584
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 4: us all. If this guy sits out long enough where

1585
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 4: we begin to ask questions, not what he could have been,

1586
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: but why did we waste our time not embracing the

1587
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 4: moment that we had win or lose, just to see

1588
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 4: what was there. That seems like such a calamitous waste.

1589
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and right now he's trending to be more brock

1590
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 3: lesnar or Ronda Rousey in history where it's a little

1591
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: bit more about the impact he had than what he accomplished.

1592
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: Where there was a time when he was trending to

1593
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 3: be you know, with GSP and and Anderson Silva. So

1594
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: you know history will blame him. But if this is

1595
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 3: the end, Luke, if it really is where it's done with.

1596
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 2: Him being a real fighter, and then we just see

1597
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: a couple of different castions before he walks away or

1598
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: boxes you know, some some ill advised opportunities there, or

1599
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: maybe goes to Jake Paul Business, who knows it will

1600
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 2: have been Luke one of the more uh you can

1601
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,600
Speaker 2: only lament right where we were in twenty sixteen to

1602
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: where we are now from that regard of a of

1603
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: a of a great fighter and what he could have

1604
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: been or the potential or maybe you're a Connor hater

1605
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: from day one, and it's like it's always been smoking mirrors.

1606
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: He got lucky that Mendes took the fight on last minute.

1607
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 2: He got lucky that although walked into one punch. I mean,

1608
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: look there, you know he got lucky. He wasn't exposed more.

1609
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 3: It's very interesting. I like deep diving it with you.

1610
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 2: But uh, there's no there's no uh, there's no way

1611
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:31,560
Speaker 2: to really handicap it.

1612
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: Luke.

1613
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,839
Speaker 4: You know what the big difference is between Mayweather and Connor.

1614
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: There's a lot of differences. You know what the big

1615
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: one is though skin color.

1616
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 4: One's black. Uh No, Mayweather bought out his contract from

1617
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 4: top rank.

1618
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,480
Speaker 1: That's the difference. Yes, I want you to imagine.

1619
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 4: The world where after UFC two O five Connor's a

1620
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: free agent, and not that he signs with Bellots or

1621
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: or one or I don't mean that stays with UFC,

1622
01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 4: but he does these one fight deals where he's in

1623
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 4: total con total command. If he wants to take a

1624
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 4: detour and go fight Adrian Broner or whatever he could.

1625
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 3: That's interesting.

1626
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: What does this vary interest?

1627
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 4: Like?

1628
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: Now, that's something I haven't even thought of. And just

1629
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 3: so people have full reference, Floyd was about to become

1630
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 3: a breakout star. Bob Berriman top Rink was his promoter,

1631
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 3: back in like six, They're like, you know seven, we

1632
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: want you to fight your toughest fight to date.

1633
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: Antonio Margarito will offer you eight million. Floyd was like, dude,

1634
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 2: I could make twenty million. I want to fight dal

1635
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: La Hoya. Bob was like, no, you can't for seven

1636
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand. Floyd bought out that deal and

1637
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: then started making twenty million every single fight, So he

1638
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: was right.

1639
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,879
Speaker 3: Is there a world in which.

1640
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 2: Connor can piecemeal to your point one championship?

1641
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 3: You know, pfl who you know whatever?

1642
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 1: Suitor?

1643
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: And I didn't even thought about a Broner fight.

1644
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 2: You want to talk about a guy in Broner who

1645
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: has a fading brand, who could who needs That's why

1646
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: I want him to fight amer Con, who needs somebody

1647
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: who's flawed but is still famous to sort of.

1648
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 3: That's why I've always wanted to see Berner against Lloyd.

1649
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: By the way, and I say, don't ever count that

1650
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 2: out right student versus teacher, that's you.

1651
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: Know, you were there right there.

1652
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: You were you at that fight in DC when he

1653
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: was like, Floyd needs to see me after he beat

1654
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: Ashley THEO fan.

1655
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I was a completely there.

1656
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Spiked. That's Spike TV that night. Uh, that's

1657
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 2: an interesting build toward that. Can we do that on

1658
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: show time.

1659
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 3: Pay per view?

1660
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: Luke? But don't you think it's interesting?

1661
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 4: It's like what fights would he have taken if he

1662
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 4: was on a one fight deal and had the control

1663
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 4: over his destiny that Floyd had? I mean, what is

1664
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: the lesson there? Because caause the answers, who knows?

1665
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: Maybe he fought Packya, maybe he fought Canelo or well.

1666
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 3: Let's map it out, Luke. You want it. You want

1667
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: him to fight Eddie Alparez in one in a rematch

1668
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: you want to do.

1669
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm saying.

1670
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 4: You can't understand the Connor McGregor story and this particular

1671
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 4: chapter of it, and certainly not the next one without understanding.

1672
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but

1673
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 4: it just really as a relevant factor BC, the nature

1674
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 4: of UFC contracts, the nature of the MMA industry, how

1675
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 4: much the fighters are at the mercy of their promoters,

1676
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 4: because it's not just UFC, it's all of them, uh,

1677
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: and how much that narrows their options and what it

1678
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 4: means for how they define their future. Floyd had essentially free,

1679
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: not totally but essentially free reign. Connor has to constantly

1680
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 4: go back to the parents to figure out a way

1681
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 4: to work with them and.

1682
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: Higher dynamic.

1683
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, is there a world, Luke where that is realistic,

1684
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: where he says, Fu Dana, I will box and fight

1685
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: MMA on my own terms.

1686
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 3: Are there enough names out there for.

1687
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: Us to care? Yes? Yes, absolutely sure.

1688
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 2: So you're gonna Connor MVP in Bellator, Connor Elvarez two

1689
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: in one.

1690
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: Connor Douglas Numa. You could do. You could do.

1691
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 3: Rory and pfl.

1692
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: No, he couldn't do that. You couldn't do that.

1693
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 4: You could have him box or kickbox for sure, you know,

1694
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 4: which would be a waste, but it would just sort

1695
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 4: of tell you, like, this is where we're at on

1696
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 4: this whole thing, Luke.

1697
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 3: You had mentioned Paulo Coston. I did want to just

1698
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 3: follow up real quick.

1699
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: Did you see that video he put out where he

1700
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: was very angry about out of Sonia humping him, even

1701
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: though Paula had some you know.

1702
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 3: Fairly homophobic comments in the build up himself.

1703
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: As well, but that he sort of teased that there's

1704
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: an injury or that there's something that would explain his performance,

1705
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: and then a lot of people were coming back and saying, look,

1706
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: he an't throw one right hand in that fight. Luke

1707
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: has your love of dissecting out of Sonia and me

1708
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: making him number three pound upound in the world.

1709
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 3: Right now, are we missing the fact that Costa was

1710
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 3: hurt and shouldn't have taken the fight.

1711
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 4: Uh No, he might have been hurt. Lots of guys

1712
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 4: show up to fight hurt. You show up, you get,

1713
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 4: you get judged accordingly. Again, I don't know how I

1714
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 4: will add to that. I will add to that, BC.

1715
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 4: I am perfectly willing to admit a second fight could

1716
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 4: go very differently. Yes, but you get, you get judged

1717
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 4: how you get judged, and that's the end of it.

1718
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: I mean this guy right here, Caine, you know that guy.

1719
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm the one of the worst wrestlers of all time,

1720
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: Caine Velaskaz did that on Fox in the first JDS fight.

1721
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: Showed up with a knee injury, got knocked out, came

1722
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: back and went, you know, won back the title though.

1723
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 1: So I was I was wondering.

1724
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 4: I thought kin was supposed to be a good wrestler

1725
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 4: and then just kind of fizzled out.

1726
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so in ring he's good in ring. He's better

1727
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: than he should be. But here's the problem here. It

1728
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Speaker 2: looks now in hindsight as if Vince McMahon and company

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01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 2: only threw money at him to avoid him going to

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Speaker 2: aw right when they were rising up the competitor and ww,

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: it seemed like all they did was a piece to

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01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia put him in there against brock Lesner, which

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01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: actually had a storyline, right, They started to tell the

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01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 2: story pretty well for the rematch, and then they went

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01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 2: to Saudi and Brock beat him by uh Komura in

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Speaker 2: like under a minute, which tells no story at all.

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 2: And then they pretty much caught Kane Velascas once the

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01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: quarantine hit. So yeah, the problem here is Kane can't

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01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: talk at all. And Luke, you know, vincemick Man's a

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01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 2: body guy. Kine showed up for that with like love

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: handles and stuff. Dude, you gotta you gotta, you gotta

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01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: juice bro all right, you got you gotta you gotta

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 2: be willing to jump in the guyin no pool Okay,

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: and uh, you know if you want, if you want

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01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: to win over VKM, all right, it's just the way

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: it works.

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 4: Well, you know what I understand it. Okay, see, well

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 4: we're still working out some of the kinks. We'll be

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01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 4: back on Friday with an we'll get you ready for

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01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 4: home versus all Donna, what do you want to do

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01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 4: with the Dark Knight? You want to you want to

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01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,759
Speaker 4: do a bit on that on Friday?

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Friday, that'll be our first sort of you know,

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Speaker 2: rewatching reaction.

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01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 3: I will be watching this film.

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01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 2: I may have to buy it, I'm not sure, but

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: I will watch it for the first time. This is

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: the second in the New Batman trilogy. Correct with your

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01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: director friend there? All right, I did see the first one.

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01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 3: I'm ready. I'm gonna be watching it. We are ready.

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Speaker 3: Webscream has told me it's the greatest movie of all time.

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Speaker 4: Well that's a little much. It's certainly better than the

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 4: first Batman. Excuse me, it's better than it's better than

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Speaker 4: any of.

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Speaker 1: The other Batman's.

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Speaker 4: The third of the new Christopher Nolan films with Bain

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 4: is better than the first one, but not better than

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Speaker 4: Heath Ledger.

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Speaker 1: Heath Ledger is amazing in this movie.

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Speaker 3: So, all right, I'm expecting Roko Safreddi here. If I

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01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 3: show up and it's Joe Benavitez, you know, below the

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Speaker 3: belt there.

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Speaker 4: Then I don't know how many people will be gagging

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 4: on phallic objects, So maybe you're gonna be a little

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01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 4: bit disappointed in that regard. But to be clear, to

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01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,520
Speaker 4: be clear.

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Speaker 1: We want it.

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 3: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: To be clear, I'm sure Joe Jitsu's packing heat for

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Speaker 2: his size. I'm not trying to, you know, shout out

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01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: to the old leaves. I'm very happy for them.

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: Thanks.

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 4: Here's here's what I'm saying. For folks who are watching

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01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 4: right now. Between now and Friday, we want you to

1785
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 4: also watch The Dark Knight and then together we're going

1786
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 4: to discuss it. We want your feedback as well, So

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01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,839
Speaker 4: your homework assignment between now and eleven am on Friday,

1788
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: go watch The Dark Knight. I'm not sure where it is.

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm sure you can go to YouTube or just a

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01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 4: couple of bucks if you don't already own it, watch

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01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 4: that and then discuss it with us. If you have

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 4: any questions for us about The Dark Knight about anything else.

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Speaker 4: Luke Thomas news at gmail dot com. Well, b see,

1794
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 4: we got a lot of things to still work out.

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 4: We got a lot of kinks in the uh in

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Speaker 4: the the old production schedule. We're gonna get it. We're

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01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 4: gonna get it done. If you want to follow us

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Speaker 4: and subscribe, there you have it right there. We're on Instagram,

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Speaker 4: We're on Twitter, we're on YouTube, We're in a bunch

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Speaker 4: of places to BC any final party and.

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Speaker 2: You're and we're gonna be all over you, in your face, hole,

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: in your ear hole. We're gonna work this thing out.

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01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 2: Monday's got a lot of bells and whistles. We're gonna

1804
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 2: find those same ones for Wednesday and Thursday. Please email

1805
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: Luke be a part of the process.

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01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 3: Let's build this arc together.

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Speaker 2: If you will, Noah Thomas and we could, you know,

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Speaker 2: jump in and sail away from all the other boring fights,

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Speaker 2: fight talk shows because this is your new home right

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Speaker 1: To have it all right.

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Speaker 3: What you got BC this Saturday Showtime Regular gonna be

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Speaker 3: re airing the Charlo brother double pay per view that

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Speaker 3: you and I were a part of.

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Speaker 2: You heard us break down the fights some very good

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Speaker 2: ones on that six fight double card.

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Speaker 3: Be sure to check that out on Showtime.

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Speaker 2: Hey, why don't you check it out for free thirty

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Speaker 2: days And while you're there, go to the app go

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Speaker 2: to the folder Strikeforce Morning Combat Classics. Luke me, Mara, Ronalo,

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Speaker 2: Scott Cocher relive in the greatest fights in Strikeforce history.

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Speaker 3: Inside stories.

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Speaker 2: I do want to sell this properly, Scott Coker with

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Speaker 2: some inside stories.

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Speaker 3: Never to be heard before. Good stuff.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, he takes a shot at Vadim Finkelstein, which you

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Speaker 4: will want to hear, trust me, Okay.

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Speaker 3: The dummy, Yes, yes, the dummy.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: With that in mind, that is it for us today.

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01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 4: We are back on Friday at eleven. My live chat

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01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: is tomorrow at what someone mentioning my name, I can't

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01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 4: hear something. This is the worst, okay.

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01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: All right, with that in minds awkwardly, it was super awkward,

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01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: terrible show. All right.

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01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 4: With that in mind, I'm Luke Thomas. That's Brian Campbell.

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 4: Until next time, May all of your gains.

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01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: Be loyal, are you in? This is our time?

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01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: The world's changed me and you are right in the

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01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: center of it. I don't know it's ahead, but all

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01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 3: bets are off.