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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by Draft Kings. The crown

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Speaker 1: is yours. We are an Action Network podcast. I'm Brandon Kravitz,

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Speaker 1: back at it with my super friends, the first Lady

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Speaker 1: of the pod, Kendra Middleton, and the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Degenerate Nations Stucky. On today's episode, we've got a special

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Speaker 1: guest joining us to chat about the AFC side of

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl equation. And then Thursday we're gonna chat

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. How's everybody feeling this week? Kendre, you pretty

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Speaker 1: locked in on Uh? Have you've taken any calls from

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Speaker 1: the the dudes out in Worcestershire wherever?

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Speaker 2: The health Worcester worsterer?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I was thinking about what I seasoned my stakes

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Speaker 1: with my bed.

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Speaker 2: Did you it's okay? I said the same thing. The

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Speaker 2: Massachusetts town names are beyond it, saying did you see

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Speaker 2: the video of the guy screaming at the plow driver

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Speaker 2: that I posted? Is that why you're asking me this?

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Speaker 1: I mean I just figured that, yeah, he gets crazy

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Speaker 1: this time of year, but what exactly transpired?

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Speaker 2: There's a video of a guy in a Boston suburb

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Speaker 2: that I posted today and said, this is definitely a

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Speaker 2: ninety eight five the Sports Hub caller and he's cussing

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Speaker 2: out the plow driver because he's like, my car is

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Speaker 2: broken down, you can drive around me. What the fuck

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Speaker 2: is wrong with you? Like with the heaviest Boston accent ever,

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Speaker 2: and it is just the epitome of this town all

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Speaker 2: the time, just but it's heightened in a snowstorm and

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Speaker 2: it is so good. But the callers this week it's

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Speaker 2: you can talk about tidle town, but unless you're really

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Speaker 2: in the thick of it here, people do not understand

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Speaker 2: how it is championship or bust every single year here

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Speaker 2: or like the absolute sky is falling. A team has

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Speaker 2: to win a championship here every single year, or people

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Speaker 2: think that they're oppressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've been getting a lot of them. I

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Speaker 1: mean between the Red Sox the Celtics in seven years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the Bruins have been doing lately,

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Speaker 1: but they feel like a team that's usually in the

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Speaker 1: mix is It is definitely a fanatical part of the

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Speaker 1: country that you're in right now. It's also going through

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Speaker 1: a snowstorm. I feel like this time of year, like

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Speaker 1: things have really opened up for me in a big

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Speaker 1: way time wise, all of a sudden, It's like when

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Speaker 1: the sky is dark and gray and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden it clears up. I love being in the

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Speaker 1: thick of the NFL and the NBA, my two sports.

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Speaker 1: But now it feels like I have time again. I

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Speaker 1: feel like a healthier individual. Stucky. I know that you're

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Speaker 1: getting deep into the college basketball world and you're also

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Speaker 1: being a dad, and you're a dad, so but it

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Speaker 1: has has anything in your schedule cleared up now that

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Speaker 1: we're down to one game and we have nothing but

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Speaker 1: the stupid Pro Bowl this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Not really, I mean I still have to catch I'm

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Speaker 3: so on college basketball. I mean, I had pneumonia and

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Speaker 3: then I had a kid. My wife is doing some

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Speaker 3: health issues with the pregnancy before then, so I was

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Speaker 3: and I was trying to squeeze in college basketball. So

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Speaker 3: I'm it's so much harder to keep up with. So

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Speaker 3: I'm still trying to catch up on college basketball. This

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Speaker 3: week is spent a lot of time on props. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's a little more nap time. I'll probably be able

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Speaker 3: But I'm just kind of in I'm in one mode

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Speaker 3: from it's all I know how to do. One mode

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Speaker 3: from you know, August until early April, and it's just

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Speaker 3: not sleep, always be looking, always be looking into something,

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Speaker 3: and we're watching games but pretty much all hours and

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Speaker 3: not sleeping. And then once after April, then I'm a

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Speaker 3: completely different person. So uh yeah, now that I have

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: You're initiated, you got pooped on, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little tiny bit. But now this is still

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Speaker 3: this is still the grind from me until early April.

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Speaker 3: But I love it. But yeah, I do It's I

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Speaker 3: do miss multiple football games like I'm I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: The one thing that I always struggle with in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl is we're going to talk about this game

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Speaker 3: for two weeks and you can start to like overthink everything.

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Speaker 3: With props and everything, you can convince yourself on so

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Speaker 3: many different things. So I usually just like to target

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Speaker 3: a couple of fun long shots. That's usually how I

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Speaker 3: one of the reasons I do love the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: is because I do get the sweat player props. I

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Speaker 3: don't really bet player props outside of like a couple

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Speaker 3: of times a year in the NFL playoffs, College Football

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Speaker 3: National Championship and then the Super Bowl, so that they're

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Speaker 3: not I'm not used to sweating.

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Speaker 1: Then it's like collecting candy on Halloween. You know, if

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Speaker 1: that's the only time of year you eat Halloween, then

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I've been Super Bowl twenty years, so

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Speaker 3: I'm did like sweating, like a like the excitement of

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Speaker 3: worry about that and is he going to get a

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Speaker 3: guy who roots for that for a game is always fun.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I used to be the person that would bet,

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Speaker 1: like which which would the first catch be from an

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Speaker 1: even number or an odd number? And now that I

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Speaker 1: take sports betting far more seriously, and line shopping and

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Speaker 1: all the research that we put into this modeling and

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Speaker 1: things like that. I can't bring myself to bet those anymore.

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Speaker 1: But I do miss I will this that this UFL.

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Speaker 1: I think that maybe we're thinking about how much we

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Speaker 1: miss football we might want to consider betting. The UFL also.

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Speaker 2: Put its Olympics in soccer season. We have Winter Olympics,

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Speaker 2: then we have March on it, and then we missed.

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Speaker 1: The handicapping of football. I'm just saying there's a spring

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Speaker 1: league that we can look at. We've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of content to fill throughout the spring. On this podcast,

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Speaker 1: real quick, before we get to alex Pro Bowl Week,

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Speaker 1: pretty talk about Sanders. Maybe on this Kendrick, please tell me,

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Speaker 1: because I have not seen this anywhere, please tell me

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Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence declined this and wasn't actually overlooked, because

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Speaker 1: that's the story being spit out on social media right now,

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Speaker 1: and I have a hard time believing that the NFL

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Speaker 2: I have done so much in the weeds research about

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Speaker 2: this and cannot find anywhere on the Internet that he

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Speaker 1: I mean, they just cannot be that obsessed with the

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Speaker 1: idea of gaining social media impressions that they would invite

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Speaker 1: Schador over.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think they are near MVP candidate stuck. You make

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Speaker 1: it makes sense?

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Speaker 2: Please wait, I wanted to say before we get to stuck.

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Speaker 2: People don't understand right now that attention is currency and

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Speaker 1: The Pro Bowl said.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a probo who cares? I mean the

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl is such a joke now. I mean I

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Speaker 1: Like, nobody's going to Bowl. We get nobody is. I

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Speaker 1: would rather watch. I legitimately would rather watch the Puppy

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Speaker 1: for a joke. The invite isn't. The invite should at

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Speaker 1: least be taken seriously.

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Speaker 3: They need to bring back those games that they used

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Speaker 3: to do with like Brett Farv and it's like how

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Speaker 3: far can you throw it? And there's some of the

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Speaker 3: fans that are on like ESPN Classic those throwbacks, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. They would have like the

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Speaker 1: Like pump pass and kick or am I thinking of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be like who could throw it the

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Speaker 3: drill that. Those were cool. But and then now UFL no,

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Speaker 3: I football. As much as I miss football, bet football

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Speaker 3: now college football specifically is a it's like almost year

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Speaker 3: I'm okay. Football is not spring for me. Like I'm

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Speaker 3: UFL no thanks.

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Speaker 1: It does feel very synthetic to better football. It was

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Speaker 3: We'll see, ye I'm sure there's probably edges there, I.

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Speaker 1: pats preview. But first a word from our very own

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are back in the Super Bowl for the

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Speaker 1: You are breaking ground for us. The first interview that

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Speaker 1: the inside scoop on Kendrim Middleton. So I imagine that's a

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Speaker 1: unique experience working with her day to day. Can you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I was gonna say, I I

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Speaker 4: don't know that there's an inside scoop on Kendrim Middleton.

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Speaker 4: I think Kendra Middleton gives you the inside scoop on

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Speaker 4: Kendri Middleton. She's pretty and it's one of my favorite

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Speaker 4: things about Kendra. She is very upfront and honest and

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Speaker 4: she tells a lot like it is. So I'm not

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Speaker 1: Alex, I'm just going to address the elephant in the

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Speaker 4: Well, the look aheadline was what three and a half? Right?

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Speaker 2: Then.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's kind of banged up, right. Sam Darnold's been going

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Speaker 2: Barthie, I got to know now that the regular seasons

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Speaker 2: What was the key do you personally think to this

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Speaker 4: This was more than half. So to get all those

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Speaker 2: So with Drake's injury, should I be looking more at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Sam Donald was pretty turnover prone during

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Speaker 4: Both yeah, okay again with May with May it's more

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Speaker 1: And we know that that Sam Donald sees some ghosts

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And which it's so exciting is is Zach Horror

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Speaker 4: There really wasn't an opportunity to put Jared's did him

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Speaker 3: to focus on that side of the ball. Real quick

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Speaker 3: two part question. The first, we you know much has

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Speaker 4: So, first of all, good job differentiating the schedule, and

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Speaker 4: They've struggled to cover tight ends this year. They did

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Speaker 3: My follow up is, yeah, and you're we're all kind

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Speaker 4: So I love how aggressive they've been. This is what

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Speaker 4: I would think Gonzale shadows him. He doesn't. Gonzalz doesn't

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Speaker 4: really go on the slot. Jambe hasn't lined up a

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Speaker 4: ton in the traditional slot this year. Maybe that's an

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Speaker 4: adjustment that the Seahawks make to try to hide him

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Speaker 4: from Gonzalez and then do the Patriots move him inside.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be a fascinating matchup, and to me, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be Gonzalez with maybe help to try to take

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Speaker 4: JSN away and I self to worry about Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 4: They've obviously got a really good run game two Robbie Ootz,

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Speaker 4: super underrated pickup, and he's been excellent for them as

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Speaker 4: the fallback leading the way. It was a two headed monster.

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Speaker 4: I know now it's just Kenneth Walker, but it is

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Speaker 4: going to be really interesting to see That matchup is

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Speaker 4: going to go a long way and dictating this game

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Speaker 4: because if Gonzales, who has a history of playing at

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Speaker 4: his best against the best corners in the league, when

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Speaker 4: he gets beat like he gets beat last week by

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Speaker 4: Marvin Mamms, he got beat by the Bengals fourth or

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Speaker 4: fifth receiver in that game in Cincinnati. But I remember

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Speaker 4: his second year and he only played four games as

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Speaker 4: a rookie, he had this gauntlet to start the year

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Speaker 4: where it was like Jamar Chase, Tyreek Hill, DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 4: They were like five or six weeks where he was

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Speaker 4: playing top ten receivers every single week and he was

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Speaker 4: locking the guy down every single week. So he's kind

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Speaker 4: of got a little bit of that thing where he's

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Speaker 4: at his best when the lights are brightest. He's a

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Speaker 4: primetime player. But Jsen might be the best receiver in

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Speaker 4: the league right now. Like he's just he's on another level.

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Speaker 4: So can Gonzales rise to that occasion or his JSN

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Speaker 4: really going to prove that he is unguardable because if

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Speaker 4: Gonzales can lock him down or freeze the Patriots up

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Speaker 4: to do a lot more and play at ten on

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Speaker 4: ten and get more creative on defense and that kind

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Speaker 4: of thing.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me, I know, Kravitas one more, but

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Speaker 2: Drake may is rushing total sitting at thirty seven and

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Speaker 2: a half yards, Obviously he can take off based off

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Speaker 2: of your gut reaction, Does this feel too high?

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Speaker 1: Too low?

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Speaker 2: Just right? He averaged twenty six almost twenty six and

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Speaker 2: a half in the regular season and forty seven rush

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Speaker 2: yards per game in the postseason against really tough defenses.

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Speaker 2: With this shoulder injury should this get extra attention.

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Speaker 4: I would even say without the shoulder injury, the Seahawks

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Speaker 4: allowed you know, we're top five and rushing yards per

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Speaker 4: carry allowed to opposing quarterbacks, something that they've struggled with

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Speaker 4: this year. And you know, thirty seven and a half we've

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Speaker 4: seen him in the playoffs. He's good for like a

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five yard run per game. The shoulder might

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Speaker 4: add to that more. So I think that's about right.

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Speaker 4: The one thing is, I have a buddy who keeps

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Speaker 4: getting burned on kneel downs on quarterback rushing totals all playoffs,

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Speaker 4: and he keeps texting me like, why is this the

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Speaker 4: world shouldn't count against rushing yards whatever? So I always

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Speaker 4: caution people with that when it comes to rushing yards.

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Speaker 4: But no, I do think this is a game. Even

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Speaker 4: take the shoulder injury out of it, it makes sense

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Speaker 4: for Drake May to be a little more aggressive running

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Speaker 4: the football.

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Speaker 3: Quick question. A lot of people won't talk about this days. Well,

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Speaker 3: I guess everyone's gonna eventually talk about everything. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: Seahawks elite special teams. People don't talk enough about their

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Speaker 3: special teams. I mean, if you go back to the game,

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Speaker 3: first game, against the Rams pund return flip that game.

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Speaker 3: They get the one seed because of it. Last week

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Speaker 3: you have the Rams, you know, botch a punt, But

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks all year, their special teams have been great.

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Speaker 3: You have Patriots have one of the best pund returners

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Speaker 3: in the league. You have Brendan Schooler is always good

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Speaker 3: for a player too. But barring tor Roff game last week,

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Speaker 3: how much confidence do you have in the Patriots special

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Speaker 3: teams as a whole.

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Speaker 4: As a whole in confident? Like you mentioned, they've got

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Speaker 4: very good players. I think Jeremy Springer is an excellent

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Speaker 4: special teams coordinator. They've done a good job. They had

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Speaker 4: some issues in kick return coverage earlier in the year.

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Speaker 4: They've been better about that. Or they're just sending the

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Speaker 4: ball into the end zone and trusting their defense. You know,

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Speaker 4: maybe against a guy like Rashid Sihat, that's what you do.

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Speaker 4: A rough game for Barringer in Denver, no doubt, and

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Speaker 4: you worry about that. That's supposed to be a great

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Speaker 4: place to punt and he was struggling before the snow

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Speaker 4: came in. So in a game that could turn into

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Speaker 4: a field position battle, you worry about that, but outside

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Speaker 4: of him, they're in good shape. Seattle's special teams are excellent.

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Speaker 4: They still probably have a bit of an edge there,

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Speaker 4: But I don't think the Patriots. The Patriots special teams

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Speaker 4: are much better than the Rams, for instance. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that's an area where they're gonna get caught lacking.

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Speaker 4: But you know, between Shiheed and all that, they do

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Speaker 4: have to be on their a game. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: We'll trap with a quick chat about the tailbacks for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. When in the world happened to Trevion Henderson.

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Speaker 1: I was a fantasy stud for me all year, nine

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Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yards, nine touchdowns during the regular season,

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Speaker 1: a huge drop off in the playoffs, and now the

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Speaker 1: backfield has gone all the way back to where it

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Speaker 1: was at the beginning of the season, with Ramandre Stevenson

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Speaker 1: taking the full load. Is Henderson in the doghouse? And

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Speaker 1: should we be looking the way perhaps at his unders

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Speaker 1: or Ramondre Stevenson overs? How do you view this?

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Speaker 4: It's look Josh McDaniels has always been hell for fantasy

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Speaker 4: or betting people when it comes to running backs because

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Speaker 4: he mixes and matches and goes off game plans. Henderson

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Speaker 4: was dealing with the shoulder injury last week. He was

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Speaker 4: a full participate in practice, but he was on the

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Speaker 4: injury report all three days. So maybe it could be

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Speaker 4: that I do feel like his field vision two. I

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Speaker 4: thought the second half of the season he was seeing

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Speaker 4: the field much better and that was the big difference.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of waned a little bit here in the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: and Ramondre Stevenson, meanwhile, is playing the best football of

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Speaker 4: his career. So part of me wonders if they're just

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Speaker 4: riding with the hot hand or if you know, two

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Speaker 4: weeks Trevan Henderson can get healthy, in which it's all

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Speaker 4: the big plays with him. Even when he's at his best,

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Speaker 4: He's not a guy that's gonna consistently give you four

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Speaker 4: or five yard carries. It's one or two, you know,

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Speaker 4: twenty plus yard carries a game, and that's kind of it.

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Speaker 4: And then the rest of the game he looks like

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Speaker 4: the guy he's looked like. He just hasn't been able

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Speaker 4: to break off that big run against the Seattle front.

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Speaker 4: That's gonna be hard to do, So maybe that makes

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Speaker 4: it more of a Stevenson game to control the ball,

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Speaker 4: control the clock, stay ahead of his schedule, get the chunks.

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Speaker 4: But Henderson is one of their best big play threats

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Speaker 4: on offense, and I don't think they're ever going to

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Speaker 4: go away from him entirely because just the threat he

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Speaker 4: brings of that one play can change the game. Because

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Speaker 4: he has that ability, you can't take him off the

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Speaker 4: field entirely. Is part of it.

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Speaker 3: They just trust Stevenson so much more in pass protection,

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Speaker 3: is that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's a big part of it too. Henderson,

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Speaker 4: that's one spot he's actually been better. And he had

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Speaker 4: a huge pass block in the in the wild card

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Speaker 4: game or the division one of them, he came up

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Speaker 4: with a huge block. But yeah, Stevenson is a tremendous,

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Speaker 4: tremendous passblocker for running back and is the offensive line

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Speaker 4: struggled and they've gone again some of these elite pass rushes.

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Speaker 4: I think that's definitely been part of wing it. But

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Speaker 4: Josh McDaniels also isn't afraid to have his running backs

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Speaker 4: be a tell of what they're calling the last Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl run they had. I think they ran the ball

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Speaker 4: seventy eighty percent of the time with Sony Michelle on

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Speaker 4: the field, something like that, and James White had a

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Speaker 4: wide Split two. Now they're not as talented as they

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Speaker 4: were back then. They can't get away with that strong vitelle,

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Speaker 4: but it's not something Josh McDaniels is afraid of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle doesn't blitz a ton either, so you might

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Speaker 3: might be able to get away with him on the

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Speaker 3: field more and get them gott in space in the

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Speaker 3: passing game.

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Speaker 1: Love the yeah I call that too. Love the callback

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Speaker 1: to Sony Michelle too. Haven't thought about that name in a.

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Speaker 4: Minute, Alex, how long it's been had you cover all.

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Speaker 1: Go and follow all of his coverage ninety eight five

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Speaker 1: of the sports hub dot Com. Throw them the follow

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Speaker 1: as well for us at Real Alex Barth, Alex, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for the time and the insights on the

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Speaker 1: new England Patriots enjoy the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, you too anytime.

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Speaker 1: Thanks by and that'll do it for today's episode special thing.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Alex Barth for joining us our producers David Paine,

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