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Speaker 1: talented player. This to me like the Raiders are getting

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Speaker 1: back on brand. This is what they do. They take

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Speaker 1: troubled people, and I mean the history of the franchise,

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Speaker 1: And to me, Antonio Pierce is everything the Raiders want.

428
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Speaker 1: He's just gotta win. Now. You win a game like

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Speaker 1: this week where you're a ten point underdog at Miami,

430
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: not a soul's gonna pick you all of a sudden,

431
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Speaker 1: Like hell, you might be named the real coach by

432
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Speaker 1: before the year's even over, But you gotta win some

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Speaker 1: real games. And I like the Raiders kind of just

434
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Speaker 1: embracing who they are. Where renegades. Everyone talks about us.

435
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: We fucking hate authority. I kind of do too, so

436
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: I can relate. But uh I, I'm fascinated by the Raiders.

437
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: And I think this week, that game against Miami would

438
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Speaker 1: go a long long way for Antonio Pierce. Wouldn't shock me.

439
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: Antonio Piers wins this three in a row, like Mark

440
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: Davis just hires him full time on Monday. Let's end

441
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: with this. Let me just get this out of here,

442
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: because people will call me a hater and don't totally

443
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: blame them. When when I got fired with the Eagles,

444
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: I technically didn't have my contract renewed. Chip Kelly had

445
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: taken over and brought in a guy that he knew. Now, listen,

446
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: that's ten years ago. My life is dramatically better and

447
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: became dramatically better several years after, and it led me

448
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Speaker 1: to go on to the profession that I'm in now,

449
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: which I'm much more suited to now. At the time,

450
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: it sucked. It was embarrassing is probably the wrong word,

451
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 1: but there's some of that. There's some just you know,

452
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: pity party that you throw when you're in your late twenties,

453
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: an ambitious person. You get fired, you know, contract not renewed,

454
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: just let go. Don't have a job for the first

455
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Speaker 1: time in your life. And most people, everybody in my

456
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: life doesn't work in the NFL, so they, you know,

457
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: my mom, my dad, family, friends, like they don't quite

458
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: understand like where I come from. When you get fired

459
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: because you're lazy, you're late, you're not good, you know

460
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: in football, you're hired to be fired and new administration

461
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: comes in, you get let go. It's a kick in

462
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 1: the dick. So immediately after him, I definitely did not

463
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: like the guy. As time goes on, I truly don't care.

464
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: Now I know a lot of people that I worked

465
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Speaker 1: with in Philly, some of them are still there, some

466
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: of them around. They can't stand the guy. So I've

467
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: never been a fan because I don't think he's a

468
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Speaker 1: great person, like he's not the type guy that I

469
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Speaker 1: associate with that I like to know. I think once

470
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Speaker 1: upon a time at Oregon he was a fantastic coach,

471
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: but rumors are that he's going to get fired at UCLA.

472
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: Now this is not like my take right now has

473
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: zero agenda. I truly believe this, and the record reflects it.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty three and thirty three at UCLA and he's

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Speaker 1: twenty five and twenty five in the PAC twelve, and

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Speaker 1: I think that rep resents his entire operation post everything

477
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: that happened in Philly, because I think at Oregon he

478
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: was a badass and he was an ass kicker. I

479
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't think at Philly he was all in. But I

480
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: think ever since he got fired in Philly. The players

481
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: turned on him. Even the version of the guy that

482
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Speaker 1: the Niners had has been a mailed in guy, got

483
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: super rich, got anointed, and has never cared since. I

484
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: don't think he gave a shit about one game at

485
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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. I know I was there. I

486
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: watched it. They won two games. They had the worst

487
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Speaker 1: defense in the history of the franchise, even at UCLA.

488
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Speaker 1: Like when they win or they lose. I do not

489
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Speaker 1: think he cares. I think he is completely indifferent. Right

490
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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, for example, is having an awful year for

491
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Speaker 1: the expectations. When they lose, I do believe it devastates him.

492
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Speaker 1: It really really hurts. Like Deon Sanders when he's losing

493
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Speaker 1: games at Colorad. I think he does not like it.

494
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Speaker 1: Nick Sabeen, Kirby Smart, all the coaches around the country

495
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: who are really famous, Ryan Day Harball like they care

496
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Speaker 1: a lot about the program. I think Chip Kelly is

497
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: going through the motions, and I think he's been doing

498
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: it for years. I've been saying forever, you cannot take

499
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Speaker 1: this guy into the Big ten. You're not playing the

500
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: fucking Pac twelve anymore. You're not playing ASU, and you

501
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: know before Dion got their Colorado and Arizona before Fish

502
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: got there. This ain't it. Every team you're playing, even

503
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Speaker 1: if they're overrated, truly gives a shit like Luke Fickle

504
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: his effort, Matt Ruhle his effort. Whether the teams are

505
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: good or not, they're all in and their coach is

506
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: all in. Chip Kelly's not an all in guy. You

507
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: had to remove him. And to me, there's one option

508
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: the dudes from Los Angeles. He coaches a style that

509
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Speaker 1: will translate into Big ten. It's Jonathan Smith at Oregon State,

510
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: who played quarterback there with Chad Johnson in the late

511
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Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands, then went on to coach and

512
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Speaker 1: be an assistant for Chrispy Peterson at Boise in Washington

513
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: before going to Oregon State. He currently has Oregon State

514
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Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. Now there's a decent chance they

515
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Speaker 1: lose their last two games. They play Washington this week

516
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and then Oregon. But to me, that's a no brainer.

517
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: Higher he's from Los Angeles and guess what, he truly

518
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Speaker 1: gives a shit. He actually cares. Football still means everything

519
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Speaker 1: doing Now, I don't think that Chip Kelly doesn't care

520
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: as much about football, but in terms of like the program,

521
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: the whole thing, like part of being a college football coach,

522
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: like Jim Harbaugh. You know, Colin talks about this a lot.

523
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: Is not getting on his knees and giving all the

524
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: big boosters a circle jerk. That's not his deal. You

525
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: can do that when you're kicking ass and taking names. Right,

526
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: Ryan Day probably doing that a lot, right, some of

527
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: these coaches probably doing that a lot. Sarkesian doing that

528
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: a lot. That's part of being a college coach. Chip Kelly,

529
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: you can't go thirty three and thirty three in twenty

530
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Speaker 1: five and twenty five in your career, in the conference,

531
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Speaker 1: at the school and not do all the other stuff.

532
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: This is not the pros. It can't just be all

533
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Speaker 1: about ball. These guys also go to school, right. The

534
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: boosters pay for all this shit. They cut checks for

535
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: your salary, and he doesn't care about any of that,

536
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: which he'd get away with once upon a time in Oregon,

537
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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty three, given his ROI as a coach, No,

538
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: and he's never gonna change, not with the level of

539
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Speaker 1: wealth he has now. So to me, I would have

540
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: fired him a couple of years ago, But He kind

541
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: of just felt like they gave them some credibility. They

542
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: weren't a disaster. You cannot take this guy at the

543
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Big ten. You absolutely cannot. So if the rumors are true,

544
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: it's not just the right move. But now it's about

545
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: getting the right guy. And to me, Jonathan Smith, I

546
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't even interview anyone else. He would be the guy

547
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Speaker 1: I would circle, I would hire, and we'd go into

548
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Speaker 1: the Big ten with Jonathan Smith. Hot take. You know,

549
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that big a difference between Jonathan

550
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: Smith and Lincoln Riley. I really don't. Another hot take.

551
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: The mindset and the way Jonathan Smith thinks about football

552
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: is what translates to wins. Defense, physicality like Lincoln likes

553
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and scoring points, hates defense like Jonathan Smith cares

554
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: about defense, cares about running the ball down your throat

555
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: with a quarterback under center. Reminds me of Dan Lanning

556
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: and Duboor, Like those guys are gonna translate to the

557
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: Big ten. Chip Kelly was never gonna translate to the

558
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Big ten. Honestly, Lincoln might struggle if he doesn't fucking

559
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: figure it out and get a defensive coordinator. But UCLA

560
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: let let's go hire the right guy. Now we're diving

561
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Speaker 1: into the mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram at

562
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: John middlecoff is the Instagram. Easiest way to get your

563
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: show or question answered here on the show firing those

564
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Speaker 1: dms just my name start with Paul first time DM

565
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Speaker 1: or I was curious to get your thoughts on the

566
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Speaker 1: following Let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that

567
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: Antonio Pierce ends up not being the Raiders coach next season.

568
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: Who are some of the smart, progressive and creative minds

569
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: that you would interview if you were Mark Davis. I

570
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: mean specifically young up and coming coaches like Mike McDaniels.

571
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Here's the problem they've done that. They just kind of

572
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: did that, you know, Josh McDaniels was supposed to be

573
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: this kind of young, innovative guy who already had experience,

574
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: ton of championship pedigree and a backfired. Now you could

575
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: say there were definitely red flags right the Indianapolis situation,

576
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: but I think the Denver situation people gave him a

577
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: pass in the sense that it was so long ago,

578
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: he was so young, and they tried it, like, are

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Speaker 1: they gonna go with Ben Johnson, the OC for the

580
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. You know, I don't know if the Raiders

581
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: are really in position to do that. Again, he's in

582
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: Vegas New Arena. They haven't had much success. I think

583
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: he'd be more likely to kind of go retready. You know,

584
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: obviously the best retread of the probably in retreads, even

585
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: the wrong way, a guy that has been a longtime

586
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: head coach, because Andy Reid wasn't a retread. He had

587
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: just got fired. But like that version of a guy.

588
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: Uh And I think in recent memory it's been guys

589
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: that haven't had it as much success. Ron Rivera in Washington,

590
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: I would say Frank Reich right now in Indianapolis. He

591
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: needs to get the train on the tracks. And he

592
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: did that with with Jack del Rio years ago and

593
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: it worked. They were really really shitty. Jack got there.

594
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: I think they went seven to nine next year. If

595
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Derek hadn't broke his ankle, they would have won the division.

596
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna try to not outthink the

597
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: room here. Jim Harbaugh makes a ton of sense. Right

598
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Speaker 1: If Jim would come, if if you could afford him

599
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: to me, that's a no brainer. I think Coward said

600
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: this a lot of people. He guarantees you to win.

601
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: He's four for four. There's no chance you lose. Now,

602
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you win the super Bowl, but that

603
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: ain't the Raiders bar. You just go back to back

604
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: playoff appearances, back to back ten win seasons, that'd be incredible.

605
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: It's as good as against in Raiderland. So I think

606
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Mark either attempts to do that, which I'm sure he's

607
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: probably sniffing around right now, or he you know, That's

608
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: where I think Antonio Pierce is the safest player has

609
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: been assistant coach now for a while. Players respect him.

610
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: I also think that can give you a little breathing room. Right,

611
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Let's just say they go eight to nine or nine

612
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: and eight. You can give Antonio Pierce and Champ Kelly

613
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: like three year deals. You know, Mark's handed out ten

614
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: year deal to Gruden, six year deal to Josh McDaniels.

615
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: It's very expensive to get in that game when you

616
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: don't have a good when you don't feel great about

617
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: who you're gonna hire, and I don't know, like I

618
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: don't know if this cycle is great. Now you could

619
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: say that Doug Peterson is a guy a cup last

620
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: year that went to Jacksonville like that, that type coach

621
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: that has coached somewhere before. Do you feel comfortable that

622
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: has had a little success, ideally you know super Bowl success,

623
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: but you just, I don't know. You got to you

624
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: just got to get someone that knows what they're doing, right,

625
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: And Josh mc daniels didn't know what he was doing

626
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: because he can't get along with anybody. Some of the

627
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: stories you hear, like what this is crazy, but it's

628
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: kind of who he is. For the mailbag, can you

629
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Speaker 1: list all the teams you think need a quarterback in

630
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: the first round in twenty twenty four and break down

631
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: why they need to not fuck it up? Well? I

632
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: think some of them are extremely obvious, right. The Chicago Bears,

633
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: they are one taking a quarterback feels hasn't been reliable

634
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been good enough to keep they're taking

635
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback. The New York Giants taking a quarterback. I think,

636
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers taking a quarterback. The New England

637
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Patriots taking a quarterback. Now here's the thing I'm recording this.

638
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: Draymond Green just got suspended five games. Now, if you

639
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: think what he did was a little egregious, okay, but

640
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: it's five games. What are we fucking doing this? I

641
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: think Adam Silver easily is the worst commissioner in my lifetime.

642
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: Like to me, he runs circles around Manfred and bud

643
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: Sea League in terms of incompetence. But the media like

644
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: kind of vibes with his politics and really likes him,

645
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: and he texts a lot of them Adam. If Adam

646
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: Silver would have taken over the NBA when David certained

647
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: it in the mid eighties, I think the NBA would

648
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: have gotten bankrupt. I think it would have failed. It

649
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: never would have became what it became. But I guess

650
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: ultimately what I'm saying is like part of the NBA,

651
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: tanking is a big part of that culture, and it's

652
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,959
Speaker 1: been a huge part of the culture on Adam Silver's watch.

653
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: That's why they've lost half their audience. And the NFL

654
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: is just not part of the culture. It just is not.

655
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Coaches won't do it, players won't stop trying. It's impossible

656
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: to half ass an NFL game. Maybe you can, when

657
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I say quit like half asset in the fourth quarter

658
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: of a big blowout, But you can't just walk into

659
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: a game and not try you'll get hurt, so you can't.

660
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: New England stinks, the Giants stink. All these teams stink.

661
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: But they can randomly win a game, right, They can

662
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: win a game they shouldn't win because they're gonna keep trying.

663
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: So Belichick ain't day Ball. None of these guys are

664
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: gonna start Lafleur. It's just it's just not wired in

665
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: these guys. So I could say what they need to

666
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: do to not fuck it up, not win games. Because

667
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm also not a proponent of tanking in the NFL,

668
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: but I do believe once you establish you're awful, like

669
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Giants, you guys are awful. Awful, right,

670
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: I don't think the Packers are any good. You're not

671
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: any good losing once you get past Thanksgiving, like there's

672
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: no point in winning. I'm never a proponent of like, oh,

673
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: just tank the season, tank to get KLB or tank

674
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: to get Lawrence. I mean both those two guys. I

675
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: think we both all agree a little overright, suck for Luck.

676
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: That one nailed it right, that was well worth it.

677
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: But these other guy remember tank for TUA, so you

678
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: can't play that game. The other thing that different in

679
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: basketball is like, yeah, Victor Wembyama stays healthy, he's gonna

680
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: be pretty good. Like if Shaquille O'Neal's in the draft, Like, yeah,

681
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: it's worth getting the number one pick. Like you kind

682
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: of know, like Lebron James, you know, Anthony Davis, some

683
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: of them, they vary on their greatness, but you can't

684
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: argue that that guy's gonna have a major impact in quarterback.

685
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: You never know, Like God, I mean, Zach Wilson and

686
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Trey Lance went second and third in a draft. Neither

687
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: guy can play dead in the Western think about that.

688
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: A huge Chiefs fan, it's tough not to see the

689
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: struggles of the offense. It's tough to see the struggles

690
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: in the offensive side of the ball. Nick Wright says

691
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: they are basically still the same team, but after nine

692
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: ten weeks the offense is still struggling, even more so

693
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: in the second half of games. What do you think

694
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: is causing the riff from last year when they arguably

695
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: had a worse receiver? Why? If I remember correctly, was

696
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: it last year or two years ago that Mahomes went

697
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: on the crazy turnover streak? I think it was last year,

698
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: but might have been two years ago. When Tyreek was

699
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: still on the team, like last year, who none of

700
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: it matters. They won the freaking Sumer Bowl, And to me,

701
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: the most important thing they have for him, Like, Okay,

702
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: your offense gonna struggle some games, maybe all season, Who cares.

703
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: You got a really good defense and he got Patrick Mahomes.

704
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: I like your chances. You're gonna be favored against everybody

705
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially if you have home field advantage

706
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: in the AFC. You will be favored in every game. Right. Obviously,

707
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: big test Monday Night against the Eagles. You'd be fascinating

708
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: to watch. But your defense is legit, like part of

709
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: having a great defense usually don't see like, hey, eighty

710
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: five Bears had the second rated offense in the league.

711
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: That's usually not how it works. There's a little bit

712
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: of a give and take, Travis getting a little older,

713
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: deeply in love, and again he's just it's a little

714
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: harder to be dominant on offense when you've drafted some

715
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: young wide receivers. I kind of like the Rice guy.

716
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: I'd say sky Moore hasn't blossomed into probably what they

717
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: were hoping. Their probably second best skill guy beside Kelsey,

718
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: is a running back and coach reads a passing coach.

719
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: So if Pachaco played for Kyle Shanahan, he might lead

720
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: the league in rushing. But it's not really Andy's mo

721
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: as a play caller, Guys are gonna be fine, Like,

722
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: would I put my life savings on you guys to

723
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl? No? Is there a chance you

724
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: lose in a playoff game? Of course there is. But

725
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: if i'm you guys, do I like my chances. Let's

726
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: not forget a lot of the Patriot teams over the years,

727
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: like the seven Patriots did not win the Super Bowl.

728
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: A lot of the teams that had some flaws, especially

729
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: in the mid teens and early on before obviously Brady

730
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: became Brady like, sometimes you win, it's not your sexiest squad, right,

731
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: the sexiest squad you guys had didn't win this. You

732
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: could argue that first year when Mahomes won the MVP,

733
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: in the year you guys lost to UH to Tom Brady.

734
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: Obviously he lost the two offensive tackles, but good nosesis

735
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: It's funny when you get really high standards right when

736
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: you're we talked about this in baseball, like Yankees or

737
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: Dodgers winning one hundred games is kind of irrelevant. It's like,

738
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: do you win playoff series. That's why when the Yankees

739
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, everyone's ready to burn the building down

740
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: when you're the Kansasy Chiefs. To me, they're the only

741
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: team in the NFL the super Bowl or bust. They're

742
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: the only team in the NFL that when the season

743
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: ends and they don't win the Super Bowl, you literally

744
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: say it was a disappointment. Right when if the Eagles

745
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl again and lose, it's gonna suck.

746
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: And I say this all the time. Same thing with

747
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: the Niners, Like they were not super Bowl or bust

748
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: coming into the season last time I checked. None of

749
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: the Sirianni, Jalen Hurts, Brock Perty, Kyle Shannan. None of

750
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: these guys have won them. Joe Burrow, Zach Taylor, Sean

751
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: mcg Dermott, Josh Allen. It's fucking Andy and Mahomes are

752
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: the new Belichick and Brady's just like Nick Saban or

753
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. There are two coaches in the country that

754
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: it's in National Championship or bust in college football. Not

755
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, not harbaughch definitely not Ryan Day. Not definitely,

756
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: not Lincoln Riley. It's Kirby and Nick Saban. It's a

757
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: disappointment if you're not playing for the national championship and

758
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: winning it. No one else can say that. Like if

759
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: you make the playoffs, if Dan Lanny makes the playoffs

760
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: at Oregon, incredible accomplishment. Same thing with Washington, same thing

761
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: with Texas, same thing with Florida State. Honestly, Michigan, Ohio

762
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: State now there's pressure on them to win a game.

763
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Definitely Harbaugh, probably more than Ryan Day. But I don't know, man,

764
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: you just they're only Like only Tiger can be disappointed

765
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: when he doesn't win a major in his prime. No

766
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: one else really can. John, Why you hate Ohio and

767
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I'm from Columbus, live near Mission border. It

768
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: kind of pisses me off when you shit on us

769
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: and Ryan Day. I've always appreciated the Ohio State program,

770
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: like a lot of the players. Whenever I see a

771
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: J Hawk on TV with McAfee, like AJ Hawk, like

772
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Dante Whitner. Loved Dante Whitner, Dustin Fox, my guy. I

773
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: like watching CJ. Stroud like a lot of your players.

774
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: I just hate Ryan Day. Can't stand him. I can't

775
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: stand looking at him. I root against him as a coach.

776
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily hate your program because historically your

777
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: program has stood for what I've liked. Defense, tough, running game,

778
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: just beat the shit out of you. You guys have

779
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: a high level football program. You could argue, over the

780
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: last thirty years the best program in the country. Right,

781
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: you'd say over the last ten, obviously Alabama. Over the

782
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: last five it's Georgia, But over the last twenty it's

783
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: probably Ohio State when you factor in draft picks. I mean,

784
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: they're just dumb in the program. But I just don't

785
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: like your coach born. I'm a horribord guy born on

786
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: third base. I think Urban's a clown. Though, listen, I can't.

787
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: I think Urban is one of the biggest d bags ever.

788
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Big time coach Ryan Day a big time coach. I

789
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: don't know. I think some about him I don't like.

790
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just don't like people. That's the other thing

791
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: is is sports. You don't have to like everybody. I

792
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: fucking can't stand a Lakers. Don't like Lebron Right? Who

793
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: else do I not like? Don't really like Deshaun Watson.

794
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Let's find an NFL coach. I don't like kind of

795
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: indifferent on a lot of NFL coaches. You just don't

796
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: like some people's what's wrong with that? I don't like

797
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: Patrick can't lay on the PGA tour. Uh Xander's starting

798
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: to bother me. I mean, sometimes you don't like people.

799
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: It's more to life, and it's not like I like

800
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: think that much about it. I just know when I

801
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: see Ryan Day on my television, I root against him,

802
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: and most times it's not. But I'm also not an idiot,

803
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: like when you're on TV against ninety percent of your opponents, Like,

804
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna win, so I don't stand there

805
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: like rooting for you to lose because I know you're

806
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: not gonna lose. But when you play Michigan, I'm a

807
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: room for Michigan. I hope Michigan beats the shit out

808
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: of you. It's just a factor with the Harbass situation.

809
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: Does NIL make Cuba sanctions obsolete? Who cares if they

810
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: lose a few scholarships if they can pay players. I

811
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: don't see why the NCUBLEA isn't obsolete as we speak.

812
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: What do they bring to the table. Why does college

813
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: football need the NC double a a little more complicated

814
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: in college basketball because they run and own the NCAA tournament,

815
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: but in college football that they don't run the conferences.

816
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: They definitely don't run the playoffs. Obviously they govern the conferences.

817
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: But why do you allow them to right? How does

818
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: that make any sense. It's not one of those things

819
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: where I can complain about taxes all day long. It

820
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: is what it is. I'm not gonna be the lone

821
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: guy that gets out of it right now. I can

822
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: manipulate it. Ten ninety nine guy, have some good ride offs,

823
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 1: make a little you know, it's part of life, but

824
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: you're never gonna get away out of it. I can't

825
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: just leave say you know, I'm gonna live in Scottsdale, Arizona,

826
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: but I don't have to follow any of the rules

827
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: from the US government. That's never gonna happen. But if

828
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you're the big ten in the SEC, why don't you

829
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: guys look at each other and just say tell the

830
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: NCUBLEA to kiss our ass. We're not listening to anything

831
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: you say. We don't care about you. So Mark Hameron,

832
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he still run whoever runs

833
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: it in all this moronic loser helpers. You can suit

834
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: us emails, you can pretend we give a shit about

835
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: anything you say. We simply do not. And what control

836
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: do you have over any of us? You don't have any,

837
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: So audios, see you later. We don't need you to

838
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: negotiate television contracts, we don't need you to play the games,

839
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: and we definitely don't need you to run the playoffs.

840
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: So get out of our way. See you later. That's

841
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: what I would do. So I don't think, I don't know.

842
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: I think the NCAA is in trouble in general. Do

843
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: you think there is ever there ever was a college

844
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Speaker 1: football team that would beat an NFL team of their

845
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: same time period. You know, we had this argument for

846
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: a long period of time. I had a lot in

847
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: basketball when some of those tanking teams, and everyone's argument

848
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: was always like, well, they're all pros. And I remember

849
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: Sam Hinky had a team of like, well, I don't

850
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: know if a lot of these guys are pros. Now,

851
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: the argument in the NFL the shittiest team still is

852
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: fifty three guys are all professional athletes, and let's just

853
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: pick some of the sweet teams in college football. In

854
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: my life, because to me, it would have to be

855
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: a complete team. That LSU team was incredible on offense,

856
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: and I think they could definitely score on NFL teams

857
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow, Justin Jefferson, Who am I missing Justin Jefferson,

858
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Clyde, Randy Moss's kid. But I don't know

859
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: defensively if they would be at the same level as

860
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: some of those like peak Miami teams, maybe some of

861
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: those peak Ohio State teams, some of the peak USC teams. Now.

862
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: The difference though, is like if I have one of

863
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: those peak Miami teams like Ed Reid all those guys,

864
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: or one of those peak USC teams in the mid

865
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: two thousands with Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush and or

866
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: even the mal Luga teams, probably a little better on defense.

867
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: Those guys get bigger and stronger as they get older.

868
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: So when you're a really good player at twenty one

869
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: or twenty two and you're gonna be a pro, you're

870
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a just stronger athlete at twenty five, twenty six.

871
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: Now I'd have to think about some of the awful teams.

872
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: I remember a running joke when I was at college,

873
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: the USC could beat the forty nine ers, and this

874
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: was after the forty nine ers running kind of ended.

875
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan became their head coach, and they were awful.

876
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean they were competing that they did have the

877
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: number one pick they got Alex Smith and Pete Carroll

878
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: refused to leave USC to take the job. So you know,

879
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: I would have the take of depending on who the

880
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: coach was, I'd have to really look at the roster.

881
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I think there would be a chance basketball one hundred

882
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: percent could happen if you get the right college team

883
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: against some of these teams over the years that literally

884
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: were rolling out like random average g leaguers like no

885
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: pros football a little more difficult, but I think it

886
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: have to be the perfect team. Probably one of those

887
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: Miami teams were literally every guy's a first or second rounder,

888
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: or some of those Pete Carroll USC teams where it's

889
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 1: like their defense is elite and they'd have to play

890
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: an awful NFL team. But if you think about it

891
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: this year, like let's pick an awful NFL team the

892
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: Bears or the Carolina Panthers, like they're not getting beat

893
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: by college team that you got to be worse than them.

894
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: They're or the Giants right now, the Giants with Tommy DeVito.

895
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: Like Tommy DeVito, it's not like he was lighting anyone

896
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: up in college, right. But if you give the Giants

897
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor or Daniel Jones, they're beating the best college team.

898
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: Like last I guess two years ago that Georgia team,

899
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: basically every guy in that Georgia defense, I think fourteen

900
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: of fourteen out of the uh more than more than

901
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: eleven of their starters got drafted on defense over a

902
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: two year period, right, I think fourteen guys in all

903
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: starters and the majority of them got drafted in the

904
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: top couple rounds. So could that team go toe to

905
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: toe with like that defense of two years ago when

906
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I had everybody? Like last year obviously they had Jalen,

907
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: but two years ago with the Jalen and the Deans

908
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: and uh uh kway Walker and the dude Balky took

909
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 1: with the number one pick with I forgetting his name

910
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: is his name? Walker? No? Walker's this on the on

911
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: the Packers. What's the dude's name on the on the Jags?

912
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: But like that whole group, could they give this version

913
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts and Bryce Young and frank a

914
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: run for their money, just offense versus defense. If you

915
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: don't think that, you're fucking moron. Like all those guys

916
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: went to the pros immediately started. I mean, Jalen Carter

917
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: is like an impact player. All the other guys starters.

918
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, what's his name? The middle linebacker Dean for

919
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles injured now, like second year starts for the

920
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: Eagles team that was just in the super Bowl. I mean,

921
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 1: these guys, it's not just we're starting on nobody teams.

922
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: That's the other thing, Like who do you start for?

923
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: You start on the shittiest team in the league, or

924
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: do you start for like playoff teams? And you start

925
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: looking around like they're starting a lot of playoff teams. Hell,

926
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles have like four of them. Eagles have literally

927
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: like four of them. Packers have a couple of them.

928
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 1: So I think matchups, but overall, win a game, I'd

929
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: have to really dive into it. That's a good question.

930
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: I hate the argument from like media nerd like, no way,

931
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: it's not possible. It's not possible. Shut the fuck up.

932
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: Do you think Trevor Lawrence will succeed in the NFL

933
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: and win a playoff game for the Jacks. Longtime Jacks

934
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: fan really needs something. I'm losing hope for the Super Bowl. Also,

935
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: what do you believe is wrong? Do you believe it's

936
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Press Taylor, the OC, the on line, Trevor's poor decision making.

937
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: I think on Sunday when you guys play the Niners,

938
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: I think the Niners are beating every team in the league.

939
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: They were coming off three losses, They're coming off a bye.

940
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: Everyone is laughing at him. They're about to fire their

941
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. They ad Chase Young. That team showed up

942
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: to annihilate somebody because they were embarrassing for two straight

943
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: weeks on defense. Cousins, who still leads the NFC in

944
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: touchdown he's got eighteen, but he slightly He looked like

945
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. And then what Joe Burrow did to them,

946
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: I think it was just a perfect storm. Now, your offense,

947
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: to me, had looked pretty good before that in most

948
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: games beside Kansas City. But your offensive line got beat

949
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: like a drum that they could not block any of

950
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: those guys. Now here's the other thing. When you get

951
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: hit as a quarterback, I don't care if you're Tom

952
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: Brady or if you're a bigger Mayfield, it's gonna rattle you.

953
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: I feel like Trevor Lawrence really gets rattled. But you

954
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: hit Patrick and some of the other top quarterbacks, lamar, listen,

955
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: you might cause a turnover whatever, But they've come right back.

956
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Trevor that once they really started hitting them definitely down

957
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: the early in the second half, is like, what is

958
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: going on here? This doesn't look like some elite player.

959
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: That's why everyone was kind of shitting on them. So

960
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: you have to get better when you are when you're

961
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: not playing your best game and things aren't going right.

962
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: So to be a good golfer, what makes guys on

963
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour is not that they can shoot sixty five.

964
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: It's when they're sprinted all over the place, they can

965
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: still shoot seventy three or seventy two, right, Like, it's

966
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: what makes a great pitcher. When you don't have when

967
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 1: you don't know where the ball's going, I can still

968
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: give you five innings. I can still give up just

969
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: two runs and get us to the bullpen. Right It's

970
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: not when I'm humming and I'm a pro athlete. Whether

971
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: you're a tennis player, whether you're a golfer, whether you're

972
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: a football player, like especially if you're a talented one,

973
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna look good. What happens when it's not going well?

974
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: It's why most of us that aren't athletes professionally. You

975
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: got to handle that business wise. Right when shit's hitting

976
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: the fan? Can you keep your head up? Can you

977
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: plow through it? Can you figure out a way to

978
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: get on to the other side of the river, or

979
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: do you think? Do you just wave the white flag?

980
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: And I think that separates a lot of people, whether

981
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: it's sports, whether it's business, whether it's life. It's because

982
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: it's easy to kind of tap out or just go

983
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: into the tank. And I think that's one thing Trevor

984
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Lawrence clearly has to improve on a lot of talk

985
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: about the Steelers hanging on for dear life, being super

986
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: lucky and just not good. But what if this is

987
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: just who they are. The roster on defense is constructed

988
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: with guys who make big splash plays, and we lead

989
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: the league in turnovers. We have a two headed monster.

990
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Two headed monster sounds like I'm not the biggest nage

991
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: Harris guy. I think Warren's a lot better. But is

992
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: it possible that this team isn't lucky or no good,

993
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: but actually performing exactly how it was designed. I saw

994
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: my guy Cam Hayward, who are our producer here. James

995
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: works with at Omaha, and he's obviously come on the

996
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: show and I see a lot of his clips on

997
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: my social media feed, and he kind of went on

998
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: this little rant and he was kind of pissed off.

999
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: He's like, everyone keeps saying we're overrated, we win ugly.

1000
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: He's like, what, what the fuck is the whole point

1001
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: of this sport. It's not to put up forty points,

1002
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: it's not to run for eight hundred yards, not to

1003
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: have seven sacks. It's literally, you play a game, you

1004
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: win or do you lose? In pro football, College football

1005
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: is a little bit because of rankings and you know,

1006
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: the playoffs when they get four teams, it's about how

1007
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: you look. It does not matter. So if the Steelers

1008
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: this week play DTR and win the game against the Browns,

1009
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: let's say let's say they win the game seventeen to fifteen,

1010
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: it's like, God, they barely got by the Browns or

1011
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: their backup rookie quarterback. Do you know what doesn't matter

1012
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: how it looked, because they'd be seven and three they'd

1013
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: be like, well, we're going to the playoffs now, where

1014
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: I do think it comes into play, like are you

1015
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: gonna win a playoff game that way? And maybe they will,

1016
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: Like you said, maybe this is just not just who

1017
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: they are, but they're comfortable winning those games. One thing

1018
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: I know about. I'll give you an example, the forty

1019
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: nine Ers. They nine, they're gonna win by like twenty

1020
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: thirty points, but they've been in three tough games this

1021
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: year and they've lost them all. It was ugly. You

1022
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: just gotta find a way, just win by a field goal,

1023
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: win by one point, just figure it out, just dig

1024
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: yourself out of the hole. And they can't do it.

1025
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: The Steelers are comfortable in that environment. And I think

1026
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 1: in football, in the NFL, in college football and Power five,

1027
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and your big games, you gotta be

1028
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: comfortable in that environment, right And ideally would you rather

1029
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: win by ten than two? Of course, but they are.

1030
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: They're very comfortable doing that. And Cam's whole thing was

1031
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: who cares? Why does it matter? It would matter if

1032
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: we were three and six and we were losing ugly, right,

1033
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: got he could have won all these games, but they

1034
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 1: fucking won the games. And that's what I talked about

1035
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. It's like the greatness of Mike Tomlin.

1036
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: It's the whole point. That's why he never has a

1037
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: losing record, because he never loses those spots. There's another

1038
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: question on Trevor Lawne. Listen, I think the jury he's

1039
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of pressure on him that he's playing

1040
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: in these big games. He's gonna be in the playoffs again,

1041
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be matched up against really good quarterbacks

1042
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: just like last year. And he was so bad in

1043
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: that first half, and then he turned it, you know,

1044
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: he flipped the switch and he throw those touchdowns in

1045
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: the second half and they beat the Chargers. So to me,

1046
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: it's all gonna come down to how he plays in

1047
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: these bigger games. That game he got his ass kicked,

1048
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: but the whole team did, you know? To me, it's

1049
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: one thing if it's just one guy. But I just

1050
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: think he's got a lot on the line. And if

1051
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: he wants a contract, since you after three years, he

1052
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: better really flip the switch. To me, if he doesn't

1053
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Speaker 1: flip the switch, you're not paying him yet. A good player,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to have him, But this notion that every

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Speaker 1: guy has to get paid at the earliest possible moment. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not the case. As a devoted Seahawks fan, I

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Speaker 1: must say that I like the strategies we've have implemented

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. During the draft, however, I

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Speaker 1: am curious to hear your opinion regarding the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: It is quite evident that Geno is not the solution.

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Speaker 1: I agree. If you were John Schneider's position, with what

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Speaker 1: seems like a young, talented team, what course of action

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Speaker 1: would you recommend? I would say this, I think you're

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Speaker 1: heavily evaluating all the college quarterbacks. Clearly like Drake May

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Speaker 1: and Caleb Mark going to be available, but the next

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Speaker 1: three to eight guys, So would we be willing to

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Speaker 1: trade up? Would we be willing to take one of

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Speaker 1: these guys in the second round that we view as

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Speaker 1: a starter while we have Geno on the team so

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Speaker 1: there's not super amount of pressure of him to start

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Speaker 1: right away. Then I think you canvass the land of

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Speaker 1: who else is available? Right would we trade a first

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Speaker 1: round pick for Kyler Murray? Probably wouldn't do that. After

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Speaker 1: going through it with the Russ Kirk cousin is going

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Speaker 1: to be available. Probably doesn't make much sense off an

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Speaker 1: Achilles like that doesn't. It's really the draft or nothing.

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Speaker 1: And I think that they probably, like they did last year,

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Speaker 1: just like they will do again this year. I think

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Speaker 1: they will evaluate those guys very very thoroughly, and I

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Speaker 1: almost expect them to draft a guy I really do. Okay, Audios,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and we will be back with a

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Speaker 1: podcast after the big Thursday night game Ravens and I

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Speaker 1: almost said Ravens and the Banks very very excited. Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Let's buckle up, Big AFC North Showdown, See

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Speaker 1: you soon, Audios. The volume