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Speaker 1: Okay, John, I've been asking every smart person I can

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 6: Because Jack Smith's raid on President Trump's mar Lago Hop office,

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Speaker 6: That conspiracy case was opened for three months, Pam Bondi

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Speaker 1: John, Does she have what it takes? I know I've

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Speaker 1: in time. But it's also early. Does this woman, with

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Speaker 6: I think the more likely scenario is that Pam Bondi

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Speaker 6: and pointe. That is a most skilled lawyer you can find,

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Speaker 6: and you put him in charge of this investigation. You

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Speaker 6: It's gonna take the best Senate confirmed prosecutor you can find,

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Speaker 1: John, thank you, my friend. I appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 1: Come back. We have so much more, so much ugliness

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Speaker 4: The leader of the gang was President Obama, Barack Hussein Obama.

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Speaker 4: Have you heard of him? And except for the fact

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Speaker 4: that's the one they.

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Speaker 6: Look.

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Speaker 4: He's guilty.

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Speaker 4: You know? I like to say, let's give it time.

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Speaker 6: It's there.

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Speaker 4: He's guilty. They this was treason. This was every word

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Speaker 1: Look, it's a big deal. It's gone into big deal mode.

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Speaker 1: Are we about to see some real punishment? I know

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Speaker 1: The chairman and the House Judiciary Committee, Congressman Jim Jordan,

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That is, It certainly is.

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Speaker 7: And I do think when President Trump referenced President Obama,

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Speaker 7: They tried to undermine his campaign. Never in American history

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Speaker 7: And it's at this meeting where it looks like President

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Speaker 7: they have six ways from Sunday to.

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Speaker 1: Get back at you.

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Speaker 7: And the first question is why is the leader of

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Speaker 7: So this is where it all began, and it was

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Speaker 7: And so Tulsa has done I think exactly the right thing.

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Speaker 7: She's giving the documents that support that entire narrative, which

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Speaker 1: Happened, Congressman. Can people actually go down for this? And

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Speaker 1: But then you hear the same things I hear. People

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Speaker 1: If you take your position as the head of the FBI,

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Speaker 1: is going to be in an orange jumpsuit. Who goes

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Speaker 1: down anybody? Well, we'll find out.

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Speaker 7: And again that's going to be up to the Attorney

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Speaker 7: General in the Justice Department. But I do think this

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Speaker 7: is something that has to be pursued. We'll see what

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Speaker 7: PAM decides to do. First, gather the evidence, do do

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Speaker 7: do the investigation. I think you have a lot. That's

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Speaker 7: why the Director of National Intelligence turned that information over

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Speaker 7: to the Justice Department. I do think it's important for

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Speaker 7: we as Republicans, we as people who love this country,

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Speaker 7: the greatest country ever, not be vengeful, but also say, look,

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Speaker 7: accountability is important. And I do think what what I

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Speaker 7: just described, I believe that happened, just as sure as

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Speaker 7: I'm talking to you, Jesse. What I described is wrong,

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Speaker 7: as wrong as wrong could be. And so I am

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Speaker 7: all for the Justice Department using every means they can

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Speaker 7: to go after these people, and within the law, within this,

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Speaker 7: within what's fair, what's what's the right thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But I do think they should do it.

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Speaker 7: Now there's a statute of limitations issue we'll have to

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Speaker 7: deal with. Is it a conspiracy charge, is it aligned

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Speaker 7: to congres There's lots of things, But I do think

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Speaker 7: it should be pursued to the fullest extent.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the only get Trump hoax. We have Jack Smith. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: Jack Smith is all but forgotten about now because that

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Speaker 1: whole thing failed. But from what I understand, you guys

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Speaker 1: might be poking around in that, are you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking to some of the people who were

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Speaker 7: part of his team. We're bringing him in and we

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Speaker 7: may even get to Jack Smith. We've got everything on

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Speaker 7: the table, because you're right, it all started back with

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Speaker 7: what we were just describing back in twenty sixteen to

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Speaker 7: twenty seventeen, but it continued with Muller, then with impeachment,

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Speaker 7: then with the fifty one Intel. You know, it's funny,

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Speaker 7: it's the same group, same group of people Clapper and

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Speaker 7: Brennan were on that fifty one intelligence fistles who signed

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Speaker 7: that letter and impact of the twenty twenty election, and

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Speaker 7: then moved through twenty and then it's the January sixth.

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Speaker 1: Committee going after President Trump.

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Speaker 7: And then in twenty twenty two, right after the midterms,

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Speaker 7: President Trump announces he's running for pre and what happens

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Speaker 7: Jack Smith, Fannie Willis, Alvin Bragg, they all started going

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Speaker 7: after him, but Jack Smith was the serious one. So

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Speaker 7: we're talking to some of the prosecutors who were part

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Speaker 7: of his team, bringing them in, getting answers to questions

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Speaker 7: that we think are important. And so we're gonna we've

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Speaker 7: now we had mister wyndhaman we're bringing back in under

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Speaker 7: a subpoena because he didn't really answer all the questions

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Speaker 7: that we think are important.

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Speaker 1: So we'll continue to dig there.

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Speaker 7: But it's all part of this weaponization of government that

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Speaker 7: started with the Obama White House when President Trump was running,

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Speaker 7: and then when President Trump won, and it's continued ever since.

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Speaker 1: Yet another scandal that looms out there is the Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden stuff. Now I don't expect people to care about

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden personally, kind of just a disaster of a

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Speaker 1: human being. So that's not what I'm talking about at all.

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Speaker 1: But the arrangements look bad. They look corrupt. It's not

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Speaker 1: just the bearismas stuff, the David Weiss investigation. It looks

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Speaker 1: like Hunter Biden was guarded and protected by forces of

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Speaker 1: government in ways that were wrong, illegal. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what do you think.

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Speaker 7: Well, it sure looks that way, and you don't have

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Speaker 7: to get into the details. Just look at what happened.

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Speaker 7: David Weiss puts together the sweetheart deal. They take it

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Speaker 7: to the court, and the court says, have you ever

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Speaker 7: put a deal like this together before? And the prosecutors

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Speaker 7: for David Whisse say, no, your honor, we haven't. She says,

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Speaker 7: I've never seen anything like this myself, and they throw

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Speaker 7: the sweetheart deal out. And then, and then and only

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Speaker 7: then does David Weiss go to the Attorney General say

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Speaker 7: now I need a special counsel, which meant the investigation

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Speaker 7: was going to continue. We couldn't get answers all during

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Speaker 7: that time when Obama was excuse me, when Biden was

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Speaker 7: still president and he was still planning to run for office.

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Speaker 7: So I think that was all political and he got

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Speaker 7: a special deal from the get go, clear back to

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Speaker 7: when he got a special deal when he gets put

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Speaker 7: on the board of Barisma in his own words, with

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Speaker 7: no qualifications and gets paid like a million bucks a

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Speaker 7: year to show up at a couple board meetings. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think he got special treatment the entire way through.

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Speaker 7: And now he's out giving interviews and saying all kinds

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Speaker 7: of squear words and criticizing Republicans. And I think he

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Speaker 7: even said if I were president, I would do X,

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Speaker 7: Y and Z. And the good news is I don't

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Speaker 7: think he's ever going to be president.

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Speaker 1: I don't like his odds campaigning in Iowa. Done with you, yeahs.

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Speaker 1: As he's as he's making the rounds, he is bringing

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Speaker 1: up Joe Biden's decline, covering for that, complaining about Nancy Pelosi.

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Speaker 1: But and I know there are just too many scandals

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Speaker 1: now people only have so much outrage in the tank.

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Speaker 1: But it is kind of a big deal that we

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Speaker 1: didn't have a functional adult as president in the United

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Speaker 1: States for four years and the country was run by

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Speaker 1: auto pen Can we do anything about that? I know

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Speaker 1: they're all clamming up when you drag them in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you keep investigating, but it seems to me short

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Speaker 7: of a whistleblower, short of someone in the government coming

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Speaker 7: forward and saying I saw this, here's what happened, I

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Speaker 7: don't know that you're ever going to get the hard

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Speaker 7: evidence because they're gonna assert privilege if their key counselors

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Speaker 7: to the president, or they can assert their their you know,

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Speaker 7: their privileges under the er the Constitution, the Fifth Amendment,

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Speaker 7: so they're likely to do that. I think you're gonna

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Speaker 7: need a whistleblower like we had with the Hunter Biden story.

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Speaker 7: I mean Ziggler, mister Shapley, mister Ziggler, who from the

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Speaker 7: IRSA came forward that. But for them, we probably don't

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Speaker 7: know about any of this stuff with Hunter Biden, and

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Speaker 7: they were they were right on target. None of their

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Speaker 7: story ever changed, and it didn't change because they were

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Speaker 7: telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: So short of a whistleblower. I think it's tough. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: what about the FBI whistle blowers? There are, I mean

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Speaker 1: some whistleblowers have been made whole. Others are still waiting

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Speaker 1: on that. I understand, there are procedures that people have

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Speaker 1: to go through. Where are we at.

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Speaker 7: On that Marcus Allen has been I mean made whole

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Speaker 7: is sort of subjective. He's got his back pay and

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Speaker 7: everything else. But what they put him through, what they.

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Speaker 1: GARRETTL.

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Speaker 7: Boyle through and some of these other guys, is just

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Speaker 7: as wrong as it gets. I mean literally, Garrett Boyle

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Speaker 7: was I remember this story. He comes forward, talks about

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Speaker 7: a number of those issues that we were dealing with,

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Speaker 7: the Catholic memorandum, the targeting parents at school board meetings,

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Speaker 7: and all the terrible things that were going on in

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Speaker 7: the Biden DOJ. He comes forward and he's been given

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Speaker 7: this promotion and moved to this new office. They let

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Speaker 7: him move his family across the country and then tell him, oh,

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Speaker 7: by the way, you're on leave. You're not gonna get paid,

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Speaker 7: You're not gonna be able to get your stuff. That

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Speaker 7: was in story, I mean the way they treated this guy.

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Speaker 7: But Marcus Allen was another one who came forward. He's

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Speaker 7: actually been made whole as far as backpay goes. But

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Speaker 7: it just a testament to the Chris ray FBI just

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Speaker 7: how just how bad the leadership was at that time.

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Speaker 1: Truly was Congressman, thank you, sir, come back soon. We

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Speaker 1: have so much more.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I love chips. I'm a chip freak, I am, but

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Speaker 1: I also have this thing called cholesterol. Maybe you've heard

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Speaker 1: of it. And so when I go to the doctor

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Speaker 1: and I get my blood work done, he's normally leaning

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Speaker 1: on me about that. So what do I do. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna not eat chips. What do I do?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 1: I had a friend tell me about Massive Chips, and

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Speaker 1: I'd seen all kinds of massive chips advertisements before, and

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Speaker 1: I dismissed every one of them. And you know why,

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Speaker 1: Master chips only has three ingredients, corn sea salt, and

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Speaker 1: beef tallow and they're sold is you know, a healthier alternative.

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Speaker 1: And I immediately thought, okay, so they're gross. They're gross.

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of bags. It's probably my favorite

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Speaker 1: chip maybe that I've ever had in my life. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even kidding. I just devour these things. Now. My

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Speaker 1: youngest son eats worse than I do. Devours these things. Now,

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Speaker 1: this is from me unhealthy Jesse. Try them, you'll be

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Speaker 8: You really should, in an indoor setting, a congregous setting,

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Speaker 8: be wearing masks. It's just the appropriate thing to do

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Speaker 8: to defect, to protect yourself and your family.

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Speaker 9: Our data from the CDCs today suggests you know that

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Speaker 9: vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick.

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Speaker 3: Bibermectin is something more often used to deworm horses.

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Speaker 4: If we really do our part, stay at home, social distance,

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Speaker 4: then we can flatten our curve even below those projections.

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Speaker 1: But it really depends on all of us.

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Speaker 9: I'm making the personal sacrifices not to infect my parents

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Speaker 9: and my pregnant daughter. I worry about that because then

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Speaker 9: it gives people the option to say, well, bars and

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Speaker 9: restaurants are open. Then I can have twenty people over

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Speaker 9: for Thanksgiving, and so I don't like it to be

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Speaker 9: any number. I like it to keep it to your

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Speaker 9: immediate household.

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Speaker 1: I haven't let it go. I hope you haven't let

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Speaker 1: it go. A relentless assault on your liberty. Just evil

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Speaker 1: was done to the society, and people need to be

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Speaker 1: punished for joining me. Now, maybe the best person probably

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Speaker 1: I've ever talked to on this stuff is Jeffrey A. Tucker.

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Speaker 1: He authored the book Life After Lockdown, which still gets

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Speaker 1: me steamed when I think about reading it. I highly

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Speaker 1: recommended it. Jeffrey. We lived under tyranny for a period

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Speaker 1: of time, and I do feel like a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: understandably just kind of want to let it go. They

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Speaker 1: want to forget about it, they want to move on.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I guess I'm just not like that. I

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Speaker 1: can't let it go.

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Speaker 10: Is a totalitarian, dystopian nightmare of unmitigated evil emanating from

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Speaker 10: the top of society. We've yet to entirely figure out who,

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Speaker 10: or why or why. But even at the time, plenty

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Speaker 10: of people I figured out that what was going on

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Speaker 10: was not normal, It was inconsistent with all rights and

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Speaker 10: liberties in Western tradition. It is a CCP style regime

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Speaker 10: that lasted a year or two or three. In many ways,

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Speaker 10: we're still living in the aftermath of it, and we

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Speaker 10: absolutely need to revisit this, figure it out, see what's

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Speaker 10: going on. I feel like we're coming to this moment

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Speaker 10: culturally where it's becoming more permissible. Just last night, I

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Speaker 10: saw in a movie Eddington. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 10: heard about it. It's not appearing in any of the

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Speaker 10: posh theaters and rich neighborhoods because it is absolutely brutal

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Speaker 10: in its truth telling about these times, about divided our communities,

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Speaker 10: and how we were all being played by very powerful

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Speaker 10: forces to to shatter our lives and to self emulate

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Speaker 10: and essentially destroy everything that civilization has to offer. This

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Speaker 10: is where Faucci led us, This is where the national

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Speaker 10: security state led us. This is where big tech and

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Speaker 10: big media and big medicine, they were all involved, and

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Speaker 10: the Academy absolutely shut up about it and just let.

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Speaker 1: It go on and on.

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Speaker 10: So there's a lot of people that need to pay

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Speaker 10: a heavy price for this. Arrests would be nice, accountability

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Speaker 10: of some sort, or even just figuring out what the

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Speaker 10: heck happened between February in August of twenty twenty and

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Speaker 10: following where the kids were sacrificed. But I'll stop, but

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Speaker 10: I'm as outraged as you are, adjessing, and I'm so

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Speaker 10: grateful that you're continuing to visit this issue.

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Speaker 1: No, you don't need to stop, Jeffrey. I'm worried that

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Speaker 1: we're going to stop. And you mentioned it was so

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Speaker 1: true that it was a CCP style thing, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, this is something I still can't wrap my

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Speaker 1: head around. Maybe you can help me with this. I

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Speaker 1: was amazed that not only America's government and at least

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Speaker 1: some percentage of America's people craved that and demanded that

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Speaker 1: instead of craving freedom, going a different route, the freedom route.

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Speaker 1: I can't count how many people experts said, well, look

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Speaker 1: at what China's doing, as if that was somehow a

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Speaker 1: model for what we should be doing, and the American

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Speaker 1: people who accepted it. I guess I hate to sound

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Speaker 1: like a father. I'm disappointed. Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 10: No, I do understand your point. There was a red

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Speaker 10: guard that arose among us, mostly consisting of the professional educated,

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Speaker 10: well to do classes that were entitled to stay at

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Speaker 10: home and they want to stay clean, and they joined

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Speaker 10: in all the state propaganda throwing people out of grocery stores.

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Speaker 10: Are not very mass screaming at you because you wouldn't

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Speaker 10: accept of the vaccination. Our churches segregated themselves, our cities

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Speaker 10: New York, Boston, New Orleans, DC, and Seattle, at least

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Speaker 10: those in Portland, I think, all segregated according to vaccination status.

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Speaker 10: Something we thought was gone, you know, one hundred and

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Speaker 10: fifty years ago, came back with the approval of the

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Speaker 10: New York Times and the Harvard faculty and all of

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Speaker 10: the elites in society. It was left to the working classes,

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Speaker 10: lower classes and people who do their own research to

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Speaker 10: drive the incredulity and the skepticism and led to an

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Speaker 10: unraveling of all these policies. And that's also fed very

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Speaker 10: much strongly into our politics. In fact, my own view

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Speaker 10: of this of Jesse is that COVID experience is the

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Speaker 10: prism through which you can pretty much understand everything that's

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Speaker 10: going on in America today, the lack of trust of

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Speaker 10: basically everything. It all began with the COVID, with the

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Speaker 10: COVID period, and we still haven't put our lives back

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Speaker 10: together again. And you know, it's interesting about this this

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Speaker 10: Eddington movie, which again I encourage everybody to go see. It,

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Speaker 10: really does, you know, pick off the scap in that

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Speaker 10: kind of a delightful way. But the New York Times

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Speaker 10: ran an article saying oh, America went mad in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 10: and it's too soon really for us to visit those times. Well,

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Speaker 10: I mean there's a couple of points about that. One

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Speaker 10: is that The New York Times pushed this. I mean

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Speaker 10: they were the very first media outlet to try to

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Speaker 10: whip up the publican to accepting accepting lockdowns. That was

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Speaker 10: February twenty seven, twenty but with reported with the reported

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Speaker 10: Donald g McNeil's podcast that appeared on that morning. He

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Speaker 10: was later fired from the paper and got a subseac

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Speaker 10: and said that he was being lied to the entire time.

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Speaker 10: You know, I would like to know more about his

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Speaker 10: experiences in that respect. He's a competent reporter, but he

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Speaker 10: played a very evil role this entire thing. And the

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Speaker 10: second thing I say about Goldberg's point there concerning how

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Speaker 10: it's too soon, well, well wait a minute. You know,

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Speaker 10: do we have to wait another ten years, another twenty years,

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Speaker 10: and when is it going to be time to have

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Speaker 10: some accountability explanation or at least some cultural accounting of

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Speaker 10: how this country descended into totalitarianism to the extreme. I'll

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Speaker 10: tell you one other thing, Bessie is fascinating to me

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Speaker 10: about this you've been following all the revelations from Tulsa Gabbard,

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Speaker 10: which we're getting dripped by drip about what was really

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Speaker 10: going on in twenty sixteen with Russiagate and so on. Well,

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Speaker 10: this ties very closely into the COVID story, which nobody

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Speaker 10: says that. You know, as soon as the Russia Gate

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Speaker 10: thing was kind of more or less over, COVID came along.

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Speaker 10: But the person running the Justice Department at the time

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Speaker 10: is Rod Rosenstein. All Right, so that's now well known.

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Speaker 10: His sister, Nancy Messenier, was the employee at the CDC

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Speaker 10: who first took out upon herself to brief all the

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Speaker 10: elite media about the coming lockdowns without ever asking permission

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Speaker 10: of the Trump administration. All Right, so you know Rosestein,

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Speaker 10: I mean, maybe he's maybe he's not speaking terms of

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Speaker 10: the sister. I tend to think that there is a

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Speaker 10: connection there. Nancy Messiger at CDC was the one who

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Speaker 10: did this, at least probably at the behest of the

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Speaker 10: national security state, briefed all the media about the coming lockdowns,

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Speaker 10: prepared everything. This is I'm going to say, this is

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Speaker 10: like February twenty third or twenty fourth, twenty twenty a

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Speaker 10: few days later, they're all drumming it up for lockdowns.

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Speaker 10: It was an attempt to get Trump the back Trump

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Speaker 10: into a corner where they basically said, this is going

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Speaker 10: to happen. You can either be left behind or get

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Speaker 10: out in front of it. He chose to get out

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Speaker 10: in front of it. But realized, you know, a few

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Speaker 10: weeks later, certainly bout a month later, that he had

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Speaker 10: been that this is just another chapter in the Russiagate plot.

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Speaker 10: It was as another it was an attempt at a coup. Essentially,

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Speaker 10: That's what really happened. So I'm you know, I hope

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Speaker 10: before this term is up with Trump, we get some

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Speaker 10: accountability for that, and we get some truth and we

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Speaker 10: get some honesty about it, because we desperately need it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 10: One of the things that I, I, you know, still

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Speaker 10: just can't believe really happened. We recall in March we

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Speaker 10: all locked down and all the businesses were destroyed, and

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Speaker 10: you know, our churches were closed. We couldn't have Eastern then,

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Speaker 10: we couldn't even have Christmas. Much later, but right in

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Speaker 10: the middle of this we had this is the summer,

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Speaker 10: We had this weird time where we all we're all

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Speaker 10: supposed to care desperately and deeply about George Floyd and

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Speaker 10: joined the Black Lives Matter movement. Remember all that, and

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Speaker 10: then the protests and the riots and the burnings in

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Speaker 10: the streets, you know whatever. An Antifa was running around

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Speaker 10: all over the place. So that's a really interesting chapter

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Speaker 10: of this story because it it grew out of the

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Speaker 10: frustration and anger and really psychosis that was imposed by

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Speaker 10: the central authorities on all the American youth who were

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Speaker 10: forced to sit in their in their bedrooms for two

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Speaker 10: or three months, scrolling through Instagram and TikTok and sneaking

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Speaker 10: out at late nights to have socially distanced beer parties

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Speaker 10: and so on. Well, you know, when the opportunity came

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Speaker 10: for them to get out and protest something. So what

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Speaker 10: were the elites telling these young people? Your life is terror,

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Speaker 10: your life sucks. You should be angry. What should you

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Speaker 10: be angry at? You should be angry at whiteness. You

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Speaker 10: should be angry at white people. They're the problem. Look

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Speaker 10: at what they did to George Floyd. Join Black Lives Matter,

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Speaker 10: and then you will do some maya copost for your

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Speaker 10: sense Black Lives matter, But it's mostly a white a

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Speaker 10: white movement, white progressive movement. But they enlisted all the

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Speaker 10: young people who now had an excuse finally to get

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Speaker 10: out and do something with their lives, right, and they

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Speaker 10: were given a purpose which was abolished the white race,

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Speaker 10: all right. So that I mean, all all of this

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Speaker 10: happened in the in the seeming blink of an eye.

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Speaker 10: And then you know, Antifa was all over the place,

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Speaker 10: which we now know, you know, had very strong funding

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Speaker 10: from George Sorrows. So you know, there there are some

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Speaker 10: very terrible things that happened in that in that period,

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Speaker 10: and it never really went away. We just kind of

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Speaker 10: lost interest in it in some sense because it was

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Speaker 10: so traumatizing. But like I say, it fundamentally transformed this culture,

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Speaker 10: this country, and not just the US, but but really

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Speaker 10: all over the world, but the US in particular, because

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Speaker 10: I mean, frankly, what happens in America matters a lot

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Speaker 10: more than what happens in Malaysia or whatever. Right, So

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Speaker 10: we've got to figure out here. And it's also arguably

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Speaker 10: true that the virus was originated with the US, with

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Speaker 10: a US project, and the lockdowns were an attempt to

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Speaker 10: cover it up. You know, I'm not saying I have

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Speaker 10: the final answers to this, but it seems like more

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Speaker 10: or less that's what we're getting. And if anything I

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Speaker 10: just said is true, we need to We need to

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Speaker 10: know it, so we need we need hearings, we need trials,

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Speaker 10: we need reports, so we don't just need the same

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Speaker 10: old maloney cover up stuff that we got we get

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Speaker 10: into every other national travel. We need actual, actual truths,

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Speaker 10: real documents.

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Speaker 1: Actual action and accountability. You're not wrong, Jeffrey. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate you. We have final thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Next.

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Speaker 1: Punishment is important. It's important. It's biblical. It's important for children,

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Speaker 1: it's important for adults. When people do wrong, they need

807
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Speaker 1: to be punished, not out of revenge, out of lesson

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Speaker 1: giving to a society. Society itself needs to see bad

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Speaker 1: people punished because it keeps society in line. For too long,

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Speaker 1: in this country, government people have escaped that punishment, never

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Speaker 1: get in trouble at all, and that has brought us

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Speaker 1: to the place where our government is a gigantic criminal enterprise.

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Speaker 1: We have to have punishment, not because we're vengeful. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you are I am a little bit, but not because

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Speaker 1: we're vengeful, because we want to live in a good,

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Speaker 1: just country. People have to start going to prison. Let's

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Speaker 1: hope it begins. We'll do it again.