1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the drive on the 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. I'm for the Fantasy football focus here, Matt. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: We mentioned two quarterback changes this week already. It doesn't 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: look like the Saints are going to get back car Car. Yeah, 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: he has two fractures in his hands. No really, Yeah, 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if they had just shut him down, probably 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: for this season. So based on what we saw last week, 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: he can't start any New Orleans pasts. 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: And I think Kamara's got hurt at the end of 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: that game too. I don't know what his status is, 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: but he was the only one you're slightly excited about. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Maybe Kendre Miller. I mean, I just don't think the 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: offense is going to do to be pretty. 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: Let's look at this week's schedule to kind of figure 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: some kind of stuff out. Uh So the Thursday night 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: game this week is a big one. 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: It's a good one. 22 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh huge one. In the AFC playoffs standings, you 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: have the nine to five Broncos at the eight and 24 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: six Chargers. The Chargers defense. Chargers are starting to fall. 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 2: It's not been playing very well. 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: No, I think we want to see the Chargers in 27 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: the playoffs. I mean, I think they're kind of falling 28 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: part of the. 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 2: Way this is going though. Unless they win this game, 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: all their competitors they might be seven. It just you know, 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: you need them to win this game to finish sixth. 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I know that there's some teams alive, 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: But is it reasonable to even think like the Dolphins, Colts, 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: Bengals can get in. No, I mean it's too long, 35 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: especially if if. 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: The Chargers win, The Charges are eight and six right. 37 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: Now, cultureally screwed it up last week. 38 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so at eight and six they would have to 39 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 2: if they were are Yeah, they win one more game, 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: they'll be not they'll be at nine wins and the 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: best anybody any of the other teams can do is 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: get to nine. 43 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: Get to nine, right, So they basically need this. I 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: think it gets pretty easy after this game. 45 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: Too, and then you yeah, and then you start looking 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: at tiebreakers and things of that nature. That's why the 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: Bengals can't get there. They've are they just have too 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: many confidences. Tie breakers were brutal for Yeah, but that's 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: a huge game. 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 3: Uh, Denver is a better team. Yeah, I think far 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: and away. 52 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: But if Sertain misses this game short week, that changes 53 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: things a little bit. 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think he's in the defensive player of 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: the Year conversation at this point too. 56 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: Corners are tough, but tough. He only has four interceptions 57 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: and pass breakups. It's really tough to well, you know, 58 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 2: but we want the Chargers to win on Thursday, right, 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: I would say so. Yeah, if we're talking about fantasy defenses, 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: are you interested in either Denver? Denver has been good. 61 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chargers are a lot of points right now. 62 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: They're not on the ball at all. 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean, actually, you probably start both of the des 64 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: aren't terrible because the Chargers want to play this game 65 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: in the teams. 66 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I bet Denver kind of does two. Yeah, 67 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: rely on that defense. If I was certain's questionable, I 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: would shut him down for this one. It's more important 69 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: to save them. 70 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then you have two Saturday games. We know about that. 71 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: You have the Texans at the Chiefs. You're going to 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: start both of those defenses. 73 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 3: I would think I would think Texans are kind of 74 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: skyrocking up the board. I mean, their defense is the 75 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: best unit by form. 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: Now Patrick Mahomes has he practiced today. I assume it 77 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: was a walk through, but he's going to be highly compromised. 78 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: He's not going to be running around Patrick Mahomes. 79 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: I forget what the number was I sent you today, 80 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: But over the last three games he's been hit like 81 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: thirty nine times. Yeah, I mean their tackle problems getting worse. 82 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: And then the thing is so like last week they 83 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: moved joe Thuney out to left tackle and started Joey 84 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: bagg of Donuts. 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I forget who it was at left guard. 86 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're putting their best five out there. 87 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: He's but you're taking Thuony, who's a good guard, putting 88 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: fan that left tackle. I don't even think it's as 89 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 2: good as. 90 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: Well, maybe not's good, but it's that same logic that 91 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: no one else can do it at this point at 92 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 3: least you will be terrible. 93 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: So you're taking a very good guard and making him 94 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: a below average tackle. 95 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: There you go from an A to a D at 96 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: left guard, and you go from a D minus to 97 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: a C left ackle you know, right, I mean he 98 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: might just be going from an F to a D 99 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: at left tackle maybe maybe, I mean it's desperate. 100 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you have so I would start both 101 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: of those defenses. 102 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: I would be shocked if you usedon wins. 103 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't either. 104 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and as I would start both those defense 105 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: and you have the Steelers at the Ravens, I'll probably 106 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: start both those defense too. 107 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you have to. 108 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: You know, most of the low over under this week, 109 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: I haven't even looked. 110 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: I haven't even looked to see what it is. But 111 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's a big word. It's not huge, right, 112 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: but based on what the Steelers have done the Lamar 113 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: over the years. 114 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: I don't see him dropping forty or anything like that, right. So, 115 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: and I think the Ravens defense is worth starting at 116 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: this point. 117 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: Onto the Sunday games, you have the Giants at the Falcons. 118 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: Yuckay the Falcons. We're not impressive at all, last not 119 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: at all. 120 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: But the defenses is played. Okay, okay, I mean anyone 121 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: against the Giants, you start that defense against the Giants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 122 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: I mean I think why wouldn't you. I think the 123 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: Giants are your number one team to start the defense against. Absolutely, 124 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: start start the Bengals against them. I mean, yeah, yeah, 125 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: start the Raiders against them. 126 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: Right. 127 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: You have the Cardinals at the Panthers. No, no, yeah, 128 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, I'm not big on any 129 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: of the one. You have the Lions at the Bears. 130 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: Now. 131 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: The Lions have been a must start all season long. 132 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: They're so injured though, but they got like eleven guys 133 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: on defense hurt. 134 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: But man Caleb Williams holds the ball and takes Caleb 135 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: Williams at home though. Right, you can't start the Bears. 136 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: You can't start the Bears. I don't think you can 137 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: start the Lions either. I wouldn't love it. 138 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I mean, do you cut them now 139 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 3: for one? You know, Chargers or yeah? I think it's because, 140 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: I mean they still have another game left. 141 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: I think against they must play the Vikings or Packers still, 142 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: I think yeah, I mean they still gave me the Vikings. Yeah, 143 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: next week, I think that is. You have the Vikings 144 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: within that division. Maybe. 145 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 146 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: You have the three and eleven Titans at the six 147 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: and eight Colts. 148 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: Rudolph starting. 149 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: I really don't like the Colts d But it's Colts 150 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: defense has played well. 151 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah, I do like the Titans d, but they 152 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: don't get any help from the offense. 153 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: And I actually picked the Colts defense up in our league. 154 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: They have the easiest stretch you've ever seen. 155 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Because what they have last week was that's. 156 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: Why losing to Denver just was a catastrophic loss for 157 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: the Colts. 158 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they have the tailored garbage down the stretch. 159 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: So it's awful. It's like the Jags. I know it's 160 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: the Jags. Yeah, it's an easy schedule you've ever seen. 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 2: I was thinking ahead. I'm like, and I just wanted 162 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: to pick them up before somebody else did it. Cut 163 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: a position player to pick them up. 164 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, the stretch is wonderful. 165 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: You have the Rams at the Jets. 166 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: Psyche. Yeah, I can't start either one of those defense. 167 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: Rogers playing a lot better. 168 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: You have the Eagles at the Commanders. No, in the Commanders, 169 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: I think you start the Eagles defense. 170 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah really good. Yeah, there could be points in that game. 171 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: But still the Browns are at the Bengals. Are you 172 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: picking up the Bengals defense to start this week? 173 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: You're definitely not going. The Browns are dumb I don't know, 174 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: Dorian Thompson Robinson. I guess it's better than some of 175 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: the ones we've mentioned. No, nick, uh like they're oh 176 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: they're a mass Yeah, are they gonna rush Tillman back? 177 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: And the djoku? 178 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: And I don't think they want to win anymore? No, 179 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: angles D's awful though, I get it, but gotta have guys. Yeah, 180 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: the Vikings are at the Seahawks. I have a hard 181 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: time benching the Vikings in their offensive line. If howl 182 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: plays talking about sacks. 183 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one. Not that they're out there 184 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: and you can pick up the Vikes, but Seattle. He's 185 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: been playing really well. But I'm not interested in that. 186 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: Vikings are a nightmare. Uh. You get the Patriots at 187 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 3: the Bills. Bills are great Patriots, aren't. That One's about 188 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: as easy to get so yeah, uh, you got the 189 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: Jaguars at the Raiders, yuck. 190 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to know. And no, I don't 191 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: know if I want to even touch that game. 192 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking it might be thirteen to ten. That's it. 193 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: I don't when I say I don't want to touch 194 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: that game, I don't want anything even revolving around that game. 195 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: Fantasy wise, even the defense is because I don't want 196 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: to have to pay any attention to it. 197 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: Right, Like you put, Brian, tom might be the worst 198 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 3: game the history of football. It's so terrible. 199 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: The three and eleven Jaguars without their quarterback against the 200 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: two and twelve Raiders who haven't had a quarterback all season. 201 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: Both teams probably aren't super interested in winning. 202 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: So how about this, So if the if the Steelers 203 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: do win the division this year, if they if they 204 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: even if they lose this week and then win their 205 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: final two games to win the division, because that's how 206 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: it breaks down. The reason they will win the division 207 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: is based off of common opponents. Okay, and it will 208 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: come down to that loss the ras had against the 209 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: two and twelve Raiders at home. 210 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: That's the one that will keep them out of the 211 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: division crownd because of that. Wow, interesting, and that's a 212 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: bad one. That's a bad loss one. 213 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: Now that would also assume that the Steelers then be 214 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs, which would also be another common opponent. 215 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you do like the playoff, but the. 216 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: Raiders loss is hanging looming large on the on the 217 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: Ravens killer in a game that you were up multiple 218 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: scorers in the fourth quarter and you lost. 219 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: You lost to the Raiders. Oh boy, the Raiders are bad. 220 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: That last night game was brutal, missing two block punts, 221 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: a safety, a missed extra point, a missed field goal intercept. 222 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to have to pay any attention to 223 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: that game, right, I don't want to pay any attention 224 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: to that game. That's not even an NFL game. That's like, 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: that's like the the Poland Weed Eater Bowl. 226 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: It is. But what about defenses if it's a race 227 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: to ten? I mean there could be safeties and block puts, 228 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: bad stuff and bad coaching and pick six's and awful. 229 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but which one do you trust? 230 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: I think I like the Jags. At least they can 231 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: rush the passer. Where's it at in in Vegas? I 232 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: guess it doesn't matter. 233 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a bunch of Jaguars fans on hands. 234 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: Anybody there be cobweb. 235 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: That'll be what they give you when you check into 236 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: one of the hotels out there. 237 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 3: Hey, here's your tickets. 238 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: You have some tickets to the Raiders game today. 239 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be handing them to the homeless people a right, that's. 240 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Right, and they still won't get people 241 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: to go that. No, No, I'm gonna go see hold 242 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: the old glaciers, right. 243 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: Pull the pull the slots. Anything better than that. 244 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: There's a fake Diana Ross down the street, and I go, 245 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 2: what you're saying in the street anywhere? 246 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: That's terrible. 247 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: Oh you got the six and eight forty nine ers 248 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: at the six and eight Dolphins. Talk about two disappointing teams. 249 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they're still hanging on and going to 250 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: get everything they got. This is the this is the 251 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: It's definitely a loser, leave town, man, if they already 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: haven't left town. Do you playing either d They kind 253 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: of look at them equal. 254 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't know they want to 255 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 2: play either one. 256 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: Like I'd rather play the Colts. Yeah, you know some 257 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: of the ones we've talked about that would you rather play? 258 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: Would you rather play the Raiders or Jaguars? I think 259 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 3: I'd rather take them of those games because I just 260 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: say they're bad. Stuff's going to happen. Yeah, and the 261 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: Raiders Jags is a sneaky fantasy defense. 262 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: Bad football. Both be really cheap. I know that when 263 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: we line up those those two defenses are going to 264 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: be super cheap. 265 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: That's a terrible football game. That's like the Hall of 266 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: Fame game, you know, like I really watch the Hall 267 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: of Fame game. 268 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: It will be more recognizable. 269 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, like oh, I. 270 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: Oh god, Oh imagine being the brock Bauers owner right 271 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: now and you're like he was cruising along really well. 272 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: I wonder if Thomas is the same way now too, 273 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: and now you can't even I guess you start those 274 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 3: guys against bad defenses. 275 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: But at least mac Jones can. Yeah, he's he'll get Yeah. 276 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: Ridder is terrible, Riders awful. I'd rather have John Ridder 277 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: quarterback and he's dead. Uh text Rider. 278 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even my father sinceres getting hurt and 279 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: like everything's bad about it. Uh. 280 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: The Sunday night game is Buccaneers at Cowboys. 281 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: Interesting one. I think the Bucks are pretty darn good team. Yeah, 282 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: I'm glad we. 283 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: Are surprising six and eight now though, Yeah. 284 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: They're respectable. And I think he's fighting first job. And 285 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if I love either defense though I 286 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: don't think I do. Yeah, I mean the Bucks are 287 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 3: there or there A line is really good. I don't 288 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: think there'll be a ton of sacks. I think the 289 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: Bucks score on everybody. They run on everybody, and I 290 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: think the Cowboys can do enough. 291 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: The Monday night game is the five and nine Saints 292 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: at the ten and four Packers. 293 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Yuh, Packers. The he's been getting better and better and better, 294 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: and now they're playing Start of the Week too. That's 295 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: an obvious one, playing slop. Yeah, but that's as good 296 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: as start as will be nails. Packers a couple of 297 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 3: good ones. Yeah, it'll be expensive, they will be expensive. 298 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm contemplating, like do I start Jordan Love 299 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: this week? Like hmm, that's what you're saying. They could 300 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: shut it down early. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they could 301 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: just let Josh run run run. Unfortunately I'm playing against 302 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs this week, Like, yeah. 303 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: You can. Packers' success is going to counteract itself, Yeah 304 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: a little bit. 305 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they could just I don't know, It's it's a 306 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: that's a tough one because I don't think the Saints 307 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: are going to really challenge them. 308 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: At all with the quarterback situation they have. 309 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: That's the thing at this time of year, like you 310 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: want to you want to have guys in games that 311 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: matter time, And I mean, if we go through these 312 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: games that matter obviously the Thursday night that the standalone 313 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: games early in the week, Saturday Broncos Chargers, the two 314 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: Saturday games. 315 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: Yet that worked that well for the schedulers, the. 316 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Falcons against the Giants. It still matters very much to 317 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: the Falcons. 318 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: It does, but boy, they're pretty hopeless. I think Panics 319 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: is going to play soon. 320 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: Cardinals, Panthers, Cardinals, No, they guess very much alive. Yeah, 321 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Lions Bears. Obviously, Lions are very much in it now, 322 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: trying to win. 323 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: Side note on the Lions, we talked about this briefly 324 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: and it went over my head when it happened because 325 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: your game was going on. Did you catch the Dan 326 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: Campbell onside kick thing? I did not, because you asked 327 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: me about it. I knew there was something. 328 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: I saw, there was something out there that he did. 329 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: There was like ten minutes left in the game and 330 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: he announced he's kicking it on side just to change 331 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: things up and be aggressive. There's a seven success percent 332 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: success rate that you're going to get an on side 333 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: kick ten minutes left in the game. You only do 334 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: that if that's the last thing on earth to save 335 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: your life, right, I'd rather throw a hail Mary. Ten 336 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: minutes left the game, they were losing, and he's he announced, 337 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: you have to announce it. You have to announce it, right, 338 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: We're going to kick an onside kick. 339 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: And the fourth that's the new rule. You have to 340 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: announce your You can only do it in the fourth 341 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: quarter if you're trailing. Yeah, and you have to announce 342 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: it to the other team because obviously you can't have 343 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: everybody back where the original kick was at. 344 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: He thought there was a better chance that they would 345 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: fall on it than stop the Bills from kicking a 346 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: deep or he's one to ignite his team or bite 347 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: knee caps or whatever. I think he's a really good coach, 348 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: but these things are going to catch up though. 349 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: I don't know that he is a really good I 350 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: think he's a good motivator. I don't know that he's 351 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: a good coach. I think there's a difference. 352 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: I see what you're saying, and I hadn't thought of 353 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: this angle. But I was talking to someone the other 354 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: day that brought up a really good point about him 355 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: that has experience in this matter, that basically said, playing 356 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: for him is great, but you can never exhale. The 357 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: season wears on you. Because every minute of every day 358 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: is Tens who he is. You know. 359 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: I heard that very early about him in his career, 360 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: when after his initial press conference when he's talking about 361 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: biting kneecaps and stuff like the. 362 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: Day camp opens to the day are eliminated. I mean, 363 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: there's only so much gas in my tank. Coach, you know, 364 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 3: you're wearing me out. 365 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 2: That's who he is. That's that's his personality, and I 366 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: could see him. They're fun to root for, and I 367 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: like the way the team is built, but I could 368 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: definitely see them December on not being the team. 369 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: In October and November. You know, it's burnt out right. 370 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: It's just you're like, give me a break, you know. 371 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Colts Titans, I guess the game still matters to 372 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: the Colts. I guess yeah, Rams Jets Obviously, to the Rams, 373 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: that matters. 374 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 3: I think they're inn win division. 375 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: I think so too. Eagles Commanders is a big one 376 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: that matters. 377 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both in probably, but yeah, Browns Bengals. Bengals 378 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: are still playing, but for how much longer? I don't 379 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: think the Browns are at all. 380 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: Vikings Seahawks is a big game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So 381 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: you want to play guys there, Bill's Patriots. That one 382 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: could be interesting because what happens if the Bills get 383 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: up like kind of like Baltimore did last week and 384 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: it's you know, you're up three touchdowns early and you 385 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: just say, okay, we're gonna go into a cruise control here. 386 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: I don't think we're to this point yet, but if 387 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: the the Chiefs have already played, yeah, you know, I mean, 388 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 3: the Bills are gonna have a lot of knowledge when 389 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: this kickoff is. In terms of a there was four 390 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: AFC teams that all go in the playoffs that you 391 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: already know their fate. Is it worth not that they're 392 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 3: gonna dog it against it? 393 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, actually they're just wonder from from a from 394 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: a perspective of Josh Allen, Are you going to see 395 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 2: Josh Allen out there trying to run guys over in 396 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: the third and fourth quarter of this game? 397 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: I think it's getting close to let's conserve our biggest asset, Yeah, situation. 398 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Josh, we're up seventeen points here. We don't want 399 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: you doing anything silly out there. 400 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 3: Just yeah right, oh yeah, I think that stuff's on 401 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: the horizon. 402 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's certainly something to keep an eye on there. 403 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: Not that you're going to bench Josh Allen, but don't 404 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: expect a little bit. Yeah, don't expect the you. 405 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 3: Know he's going to have sixty fantasy. 406 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna have four touchdown passes and three rushing touchdowns. 407 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't know about that in this one. 408 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: I know you're not suggesting put Josh Allen on your bench. No, 409 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: Fantasy isn't going to be maybe his best friend. 410 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Like you're the expectations like when you see your you know, 411 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: when they put out the expected points and all that stuff. 412 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: I don't know that this is going to be a 413 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: monster Josh Allen game. 414 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: No. I mean, if it's. 415 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: You're on the one yard line, goal to go, I'm 416 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: giving it three Davis? Yeah, why should I? Why should 417 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: I let him take another. 418 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: Hit against the Patriots? And these bad teams are playing. 419 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaguars Raiders, we've talked about that one. Forty nine 420 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Ers Dolphins is an interesting I think that's desperation time. 421 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 422 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: I think both teams will be playing hard. Yep, Bucks Cowboys, 423 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: I think they'll play Bucks still have the Falcons and the 424 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 2: Cowboys are playing hard. Yeah, they haven't cashed it. Yeah, 425 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: and then Saints. Packers are Saints. You can't start, It's. 426 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: Gonna be a total blowout. Yeah, whatever that spread is 427 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: is going to go up. 428 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: I And again I wonder I worry about some of 429 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: the Packers pass catchers in this one, just. 430 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 3: Late in the game, just goofing off on the sidelines. 431 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think they'll and and the Saints. You 432 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: can run the ball against the Saints. That's a that's a. 433 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: What's his face the clear Jacob's backup handcuff Wilson Williams 434 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: or yeah, Wilson. Yeah, he might be a sneaky twenty 435 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 3: DFS guy. He may have the whole second half might 436 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 3: be him. I don't want Jacob's getting more abuse either. 437 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: He's got Yeah, he's getting a lot of carries. Yeah. 438 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: As far as the bigger fish to fry than beat 439 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: the Saints in the second. 440 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: Half, Yeah, and they were running. They kind of split 441 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: that up a little bit anyways, and they like them. 442 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: So just something to keep an eye on there as 443 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: you go into these games. Some of these quarterbacks that 444 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: got you there, the Lamar Jackson's so Josh Allens even 445 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: to to my degree that Jordan loves and guys like 446 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: that I don't know that you're going to see some 447 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 2: of those kind of big games even the last week. 448 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: I if Lamaro have a big game this game, but 449 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: they they're in no position to shut it down. 450 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: Shut it down. But I mean, you look at Lamar's 451 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: next two matchups next Houston. 452 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: On a short week, just bad teams to play again. 453 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, That's why I wonder, And that's that's the 454 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: other You know, in those particular games with the two teams, 455 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: with the four teams on the short week, do the 456 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: coaches treat these games a little bit differently because you've 457 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: got to have a quick turnaround. 458 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: These four teams to me, are really interesting in that 459 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 3: they're all going to the playoffs. Might one of the coaches 460 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: to the coaches. For the coaches, it won't be not 461 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: treat them super seriously. You know, obviously Steelers raven is 462 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: gonna be treated the upmost seriousness. 463 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: But I know, just close to the playoffs, you want 464 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: to do, you want to have, you know, you're the 465 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 2: Chiefs with one loss? Is just a game where they 466 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: can the Ravens come out. Hey, we're gonna give it 467 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 2: to Dereck Henry twenty five times. This game, I know, 468 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: with a game with another game coming up against Houston 469 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: that we got to win on short break and all that, 470 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: and then on Wednesday and the game after that. 471 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: It might not matter at all. And I don't know, 472 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: there's there's gonna be some big picture and short term 473 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: thinking with all these coaches. 474 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: It's just an interesting little dynamic and fantasy portion of 475 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: this thing with Houston. 476 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: Trying to build momentum coming out of the by and 477 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: maybe they can. I don't know. Yeah, but it's fourth 478 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: quarters might be weird. 479 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: Could be weird, could be weird, and you could see 480 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: more substitutions than normal even you know, lessening workloads and 481 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 2: things of that nature. 482 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: So I wonder, I mean, there's always another side of 483 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: the coin. Are the teams like the Rams more appealing 484 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: that maybe win or die type teams? You know that 485 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: I got everything to play for and I need everything 486 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: to go my way. Maybe, so I'm not taking anything 487 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 3: off Stafford's played. I mean, yeah, he might run more 488 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: than you start. 489 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 2: A bunch of guys in the Broncos Chargers games. 490 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: Probably five teams that apply in that, you know that manner. Yeah, 491 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: AFC is pretty locked up though. 492 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 2: It's pretty locked up though, but I think if Tampa 493 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: you want to start your guy, like the Chargers aren't 494 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: in yet, right and they're not playing well, I'd be 495 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: a little nervous. 496 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: I'd be a little nervous. Yeah, I mean if if 497 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: one of those other teams have one more win Miami 498 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: or Cinci or in the year, you know, yeah, they 499 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: got kind of lucky that all those teams pretty crappy. 500 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, but yeah, let's get through a break. He is 501 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to 502 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and 503 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: I will be back with more right after this. 504 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 505 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Gold Steelers Nation. 506 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: Radio and we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. 507 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt. I know it 508 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a Tuesday, but it is a Tuesday. 509 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: Nick Tis means it's a power ranking day. Dick in 510 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: at number thirty two. Some strong contenders, some really strong contenders. 511 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: That Jags Raiders game we talked about, Oh baby, the 512 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 2: loser of that game that should be like, what do 513 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: they call it? The relegation games like the toilet Bowl. No, 514 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: you get relegated to it. You get like to the CFO. 515 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like they're doing soccer or whatever. Right you 516 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: coming last, Yeah, you go down. You lose that when 517 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: you gotta go to the CFO. The SEC Yeah yeah right, 518 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: SEC is good. 519 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so, Like the Giants are working both 520 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: of them. 521 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: Though the Giants are at thirty two, the. 522 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: Ravens, that was the least competitive game you can imagine. 523 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirty one holding steady are the Raiders? 524 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they currently own the top two picks too. 525 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 526 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: You almost feel bad for the Jags. We could go 527 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 3: they had the first pick in the draft and now 528 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 3: they're like ninth. Well that's what they get for the 529 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: tight teams, right right. 530 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: That's what you know when we talked about that as 531 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: an aside, when the Steelers made the trade for Minka 532 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick a couple of years ago, longtime listeners to the show. 533 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: Would know that because that was in twenty nineteen. Ben 534 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: was hurt. 535 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: Ben was hurt, and we were saying, no, you make 536 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: this trade because you're not. People say, well, you're trading 537 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: away a top five pick. I'm like, I don't know 538 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 2: if you realize how bad you have to be to 539 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: get a top five pick. 540 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: No, I remember going through it thoroughly. There were teams 541 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: at the time, like Washington and Houston that were like 542 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 3: as bad as these teams. I'm like, yeah, with Ben's replacement, 543 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 3: the Steelers are going to finish better than these guys. Yeah, 544 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: and there was about ten of them. 545 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Titans' remember where that pick ended up being. 546 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: It was welltid like sixteen. Yeah. I thought it was 547 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 3: like right in the middle. 548 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh thirty is are the Titans holding steady? 549 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: I guess you have to go though, Do you have 550 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: to go to Rudolph? I mean he's way better. Yeah. 551 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 2: But I think when you you went out and you 552 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: signed all those veterans in the offseason to be able 553 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: to look those guys in the eyes and say, hey, 554 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna we gotta do what's best to help us 555 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: try to win a game against the Colts of division rival. Yeah, 556 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: you gotta make the switch. 557 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 3: There's something to the locker room. And you can't lose 558 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: the steamroll to a team here to play twice next year. Yeah, 559 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: that wouldn't be good. 560 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 2: You can't lose the locker room, especially if your first 561 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: year coach like coaching. Yeah, I guess at twenty nine 562 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: down a spot, the Patriots, Yeah, they're pretty bad. 563 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: They're bad. At twenty eight up a spot, are the 564 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: Jaguars fine? I mean Mac Jones is adequate, Yeah, the 565 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: weapons are okay. 566 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: Mac Jones is a top thirty six quarterback. 567 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say. I would say he's. 568 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 2: Not thirty two, He's in the top thirty six. 569 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mentioned this with the Titans or no, I'll 570 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: wait till we get to the Colts. All right, never mind, 571 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 3: we were talking Colts and Titans and my wires got cross. 572 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: At twenty seven down a spot after they played well 573 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: the past few weeks. Are the Carolina Panthers a rough 574 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: game against the Cowboys? 575 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: No question, they're better than all these teams mentioned though. Yeah, 576 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: I definitely believe that. At twenty six, up a spot, 577 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: the Jets. I'm okay with that. Here's my fear from 578 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: a Jets fan, because I don't trust my owner. To 579 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: begin with, Yeah, he loved Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, if Rogers 580 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: has a couple more games like this where it's not 581 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: terrible and you win against a bad team, does he 582 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: convince the owner to come back. 583 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the owner though, I 584 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: don't think Whatody Johnson was a big Aaron Rodgers. He 585 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: said some things. 586 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: I just say, it's really bad owners. 587 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: I think it was the GM that was making the 588 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 2: call on that one, and that's why they're looking for 589 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: a new GM. 590 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: Okay, And he didn't think that was the route I 591 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 3: know Sola was. 592 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: He said some things about Rogers that haven't exactly been glows. 593 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: Okay. I didn't know that. Yeah, I assumed what he 594 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: makes all the calls and screws them up. No, no, 595 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: I don't believe he screws it up. 596 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: At twenty five holding Steady or the Browns. 597 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're the Jets. Would beat the Browns right now? Yeah, 598 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: dtr you know, come on. 599 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: At twenty four holding Steady or the Bears. 600 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: I guess they're the best team mentioned. 601 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: Four and ten. This is what we're talking about, folks. 602 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: They're in an eight game losing streak. I haven't one 603 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: on the road in a thousand years. 604 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 2: At twenty three holding Steady with. 605 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: Four and two. 606 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, at twenty three holding Steady or the Saints. 607 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, how much water can they take 608 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: on like I bet they lose the Jets or Browns. 609 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: They would lose to the Bears. They lose the Bears, yeah, 610 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: h Like they beat the Titans six out of ten times. 611 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that, right, you know, Like 612 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have to watch any of those teams. 613 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to have to watch them at all. 614 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: I'd rather watch like the Jets and Bears and almost 615 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: anyone else we mentioned. Or I'd rather it to Patriots. 616 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: Because I'd rather watch you sing the Star Spangled banner 617 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: and I know you can't sing a lick. 618 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm horrendous. 619 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: At twenty two down four spots. The Colts way better. 620 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 3: Than all those other teams. Yeah, just a lot of 621 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 3: this though. That's why I wanted to bring them up. 622 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: I think we had. I think it was off the air. 623 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: We were talking about Anthony Richardson, what do you do 624 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 3: with them? They're not going to draft one in the 625 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: first round. I'd signed Justin Field. 626 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: I'd signed Justin Field. Y told you that two weeks ago, 627 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: did you? Yeah, that's where you got the idea for this. 628 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 3: It must have been. 629 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: I just hadn't mentioned it on the air. 630 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: I was actually in the shower, and I don't know 631 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: why I was thinking about Justin Fields. I'm like Richardson 632 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: a podcast. 633 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: So now you're thinking to me while you're in the shower, 634 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: that fantastically. 635 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know that you told me that that's a 636 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: perfect matchup. 637 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Though, I know that's why I told you that. Yeah, Like, 638 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: if I'm if I'm the Colts, I signed Justin Fields 639 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: because you don't have to change the offense at all. 640 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: You don't have to change anything in your offense. 641 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: He probably beats me, who knows, he beats him out, 642 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: but I mean, yeah, at least it's a fallback play. 643 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: And if I'm Fields, I'm like, okay, oh. 644 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: I do it in my fields, right, Yeah, it's taking 645 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: I thought that myself at twenty one, up a spot 646 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys at six and eight. They're better than the Colts. 647 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: Like I know, Richardson doesn't complete passes, and that's a problem. 648 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: It's an issue, But there is two things that are 649 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: really really good about him. He's like impossible to sack, 650 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: and he's actually a very good decision maker. So there's 651 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: very few negative plays. 652 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: There's very few positives. 653 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: They also have like three backup offensive linement right now, yeah, them. 654 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 2: In the Cowboys are same, I guess yeah. At twenty 655 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: up a spot the Bengals. 656 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing well, well compared to all these teams. 657 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: We well as a stretch. I mean they're better than 658 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. I mean, I'm not saying the defense even 659 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: closer slash to the Cowboys a couple of weeks would 660 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: pick him over the Cowboy. Yeah, I guess they beat them, 661 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 3: didn't they? I think so? Yeah? They did. 662 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: At nineteen holding steady Miami, Miami versus Cincinnati and Dallas's. 663 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 3: You know, the Bengals, we favored their favorite over everybody. 664 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Jets would be favorite, like yeah, yeah, yeah, 665 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: because their favorite every week. I probably picked Miami. 666 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: I think Miami is the best team mentioned. So yeah. 667 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: At eighteen down a spot San Francisco, I think. 668 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: The rudder is about to fall off that ship too, 669 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: if it hasn't already. 670 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: At seventeen, they got a party issue coming up here. 671 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: They do not very pretty, isn't a At seventeen up 672 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: three spots the Falcons. 673 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: I'm not willing to go there. I mean, they could 674 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: have lost that game last night and. 675 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: Had to the Raiders without Max Crosby. 676 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: Right, and they had two block punts in a safety. 677 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 3: I mean Beijeon was like the only thing working. Yeah, 678 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 3: I think they lose to Miami, Cincinnati Dallas Cousins is broken. Yes. 679 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: At sixteen holding steady the Cardinals. 680 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with that. They're right there with Miami. 681 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: I'd say at fifteen down two spots the Seahawks. 682 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: If it's how it's worse because I don't think Gino's great. 683 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: How could it be worse? 684 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: Oh? Why putting Sam in the pass protection is so bad? Yeah, 685 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: and he's a sack machine to begin with. I mean 686 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: it's not pretty. Gas on the fire, yeah, not pretty 687 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: at all. At fourteen up a spot, the Rams clearly, 688 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: I might even have them higher. I think they're good. 689 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: That's the first TEA might say is good. 690 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: At thirteen down four spots are the Chargers. 691 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: I think the Rams are the Chargers right now, Chargers 692 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: D's starting to fall apart. They can't run the. 693 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: Ball at all, can't run it at all. 694 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: Right. At twelve up two spots, Tampa Bay, I would 695 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 3: have them definitely ahead of the Chargers and the Rams. 696 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: I think Tampa's good. At eleven up a spot, is Houston. Yeah, 697 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 3: they're showing signs. The defense is strong. Stingley and those guys. 698 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 3: I may have underestimated that defense. It's good. 699 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: At ten up a spot is Washington. 700 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: Oh, they'd be behind a couple of these. 701 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have them behind Houston and Tampa. 702 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly what I say. 703 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: At nine up a spot is Denver. 704 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: I'd have them behind Houston and Tampa too. Yeah. I 705 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 3: think so. It's a good story. It's good defense, well coached, 706 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: but that's a little rich. 707 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: At eight down two spots are the Steelers. 708 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 3: Okay, and we know who's around them. I would still 709 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: have them ahead of the Ravens. That's a tough one. 710 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 3: They'd be right next to each other. 711 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: They beating them eight at of nine times. I can't 712 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: put the Ravens ahead of the Steelers with with ten 713 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: wins in the Ravens with nine and they've beaten them 714 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: eight out of nine times, and. 715 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: The Rain I don't care what happened nine times. 716 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: The Ravens gotta buy last week and the Steelers played 717 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: who I think is the best team of football. 718 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 3: Ravens basically had to buy for two weeks. 719 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: Who the Ravens just lost to on their home field 720 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: convincingly a couple of weeks ago. Or wasn't like people 721 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: talk about the Steeler game, Well, that was much worse 722 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: than twenty seven thirteen, the Ravens losing at home to 723 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: the Eagles twenty four to nineteen. That game wasn't that close. 724 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 3: No, no, it definitely was not. And there's no shame 725 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: in losing to the Eagles. They would be one on 726 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 3: this sea. Yes, yeah, they'd be right next to each other. 727 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: I think I'd have the Steelers lightly ahead of my guess. 728 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I know that they've played once 729 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: this year, and the Steelers won the game recently, and 730 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: they've beaten them eight at of nine times. I can't 731 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: have the Ravens ahead of them right now with one 732 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: fewer win. 733 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: Are they at seven? 734 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: They're at seven? 735 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 3: Okay? That would have the Packers and Vikings out of both. 736 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're up a spot to seven. The Steelers bump 737 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: down two slots. Okay, uh at six, the Ravens are 738 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: the Raider. Ravens also lost to the Raiders. 739 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: But it's a terrible lot of the year any team 740 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 3: had with hands down, yeah, yeah, yeah, hands down might 741 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: be the worst loss I think it's worse than Patriots 742 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: Cardinals last year to the Steelers. Yeah yeah, I mean 743 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: it was that Raiders team that was in Baltimore too, 744 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: in Baltimore. 745 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's losses and then there's that one, like that 746 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: is the most inexplainable loss. 747 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: Of the season. Yeah, we might look back and eighteen 748 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: weeks of. 749 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: Play mud be the most inexplicable loss this decade. 750 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, where'd that come from? That Raiders is awful? 751 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 3: It wasn't much better than Green Bay moves up a 752 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: spot to six. Yeah, I'm starting to buy in on 753 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: the defense too. I like where they're. 754 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: At holding steady at five is Minnesota. 755 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 3: They would be ahead of all those teams. 756 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: For me, at four down three spots is Detroit. 757 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 3: I probably would still have him ahead of the Kansas City. 758 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we are we assuming mahomes if we're gonna 759 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: ding if we're gonna ding Detroit for injuries, which you 760 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 3: have to well, they lost, they lost, and currently they're 761 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: looking for starters on defense and they lost Montgomery. Yeah, 762 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 3: but if it's Wentz, I'm still taking the Lions over Wentz. Yeah, 763 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: you know, Wentz would they would be nine with Wentz 764 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 3: or something they would not be three. 765 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: At three are the Chiefs. 766 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 3: I mean they've won loss, I mean their problems are 767 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: you know, teams everyone would like. 768 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: But two is Buffalo. 769 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: I agree with that. Philly would be one, and Philly's won. 770 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: Now you can make the argument that in the last month, 771 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: the Bills have beaten the thirteen and one Chiefs and 772 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 2: they've now beaten the twelve and two Lions. 773 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: Mm hm, pretty strong. 774 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: It's pretty strong now, you know. Philly is in the 775 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 2: last month has beaten Baltimore and Bills. 776 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 3: Lost the Rams, but that was a down to the wire. Yeah, 777 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 3: not a bad loss, of my opinion. Yeah, what were 778 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 3: you saying there? 779 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but just the Eagles have wins against the 780 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 2: Ravens and Steelers in the last month. 781 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: That yeah, beating good games, right, would you bet that 782 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 3: that's gonna be the Super Bowl? 783 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 2: No, it's just because, I mean, funny things happen in 784 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: playoff game. 785 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 3: I mean, like I would take the field. Yeah, may 786 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: be your picks right now? 787 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: Probably, I think so. 788 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,479 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're light years ahead of everybody else, 789 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: but not great things are happening in Detroit. 790 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in a one game playoff you never 791 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. 792 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 3: But you know, like if I'm the Bills, I don't 793 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: want to see the Ravens though. I mean, big power 794 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 3: running teams are not what I want to think. 795 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: So I think the Steelers are a tough matchup against 796 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: for the Bills because they're gonna They're gonna run the football. 797 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I'd say the physicality and when the Steelers 798 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 3: have the. 799 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 2: Ball and you still have Josh Allen, and I think 800 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl would be a nightmare for them if 801 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: they it was Buffalo against Philadelphia. 802 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: I would pick the Eagles right now, Yeah, no question, 803 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: because I think their tackles would handle their edge guys. 804 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 3: Allen's the big wild card of course always Yeah, but 805 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 3: the Eagles. That's why he's the MVP. Yeah yeah, yeah, 806 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: I'm right right, but he's the best player going. That 807 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: would be a nightmare for the Bills. Yeah, it's not 808 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 3: he would want to. 809 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't know who does match up well against Philadelphia 810 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 2: right now. 811 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone. I don't think I said it yesterday, 812 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: but I said another podcast that if if I'm if 813 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,439 Speaker 3: I'm the Steelers and I get a draft thirty one 814 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 3: teams who I play against today. My last pick's Philly. 815 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: Maybe Detroit against the Eagles. Are you gonna get spread 816 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 2: them out? And let's let's you want to. 817 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 3: Get into a track I mean, if I'm the Steelers. 818 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: Oh I know, I'm not saying who, Matt you ask 819 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 2: who matches up well against the Eagles, I'm like, maybe 820 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: it is a team that, oh, yeah, okay, just goes. Hey, 821 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: We're gonna go out and I'll score you. 822 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: I just think the Eagles are the worst team on 823 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: the planet for the Steelers to match up against. But 824 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 3: who's who do the Eagles fair fear the most? I 825 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: could see the rate of Detroit. 826 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: I can see Detroit in LA giving them Rams maybe 827 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: issues with with all the different things that they can 828 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 2: do offensively in veteran quarterbacks because now now you're you 829 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: want to force Jalen Hurts into a track meet. 830 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to be a rush him. I mean 831 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: the Rams would rush them. Eagles are good, are good? Yeah? 832 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if they're passing games out of the woods. 833 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 3: I don't know that it is either. I think he 834 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 3: had a good game. I think he had a real 835 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: good game. You're good half in particular, a good game. 836 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 2: But can he sustain that, you know, week after week 837 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: and in the NFC Championship game whatever. And the thing 838 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: is like Tampa could give him hard The thing that yeah, 839 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: Tampa would be in gives everybody hard time. The thing 840 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: that nobody was talking about coming out of that game 841 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 2: against the Steelers is that three of the Eagles offensive 842 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: linemen got nicked up in that game. And you know 843 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: how bad. I don't know. 844 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 3: NFC is a tough road. I mean, Vikings and Packers are, 845 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: though you're not thrilled they're coming to town championship game. No, 846 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 3: that's why I I don't know that that's the super 847 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: Bowl matchup that we're gonna see. That would be my pick, 848 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: but I would definitely take the field, yeah, you know, 849 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 3: on both sides. And I think the AFC is kind 850 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 3: of wide open right now. 851 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 2: Again, you mentioned you think the Chargers in Denver have 852 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 2: no chance, no chance, But you mentioned every team in 853 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 2: the NFC some teams that might give the Bills. I 854 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 2: think I think both the AFC North teams would give 855 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: the Bills. 856 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,720 Speaker 3: Issue of Ravens the favorite team to play from the Bills. 857 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, with how they play offense, right, yeah, right, that 858 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 2: would be. 859 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 3: A problem, but there they are the best team in 860 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 3: the AFC. Yeah, and Allen has a lot to do 861 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 3: with that. 862 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course absolutely. Let's get to a break. That's 863 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 2: the power rankings for it this week. He is Matt Williamson. 864 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here 865 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be 866 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: back to finish up the show right after this. 867 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 3: At least. 868 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 869 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 870 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 871 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt 872 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: Williamson and Matt. 873 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 874 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: Usually we don't go down these rabbit holes in terms 875 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 2: of just college We don't talk a ton of college football, nless. 876 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: It's drafted now because I'm not very knowledgeable about it 877 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 3: yet to be very honest with you, but I'm psight 878 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 3: for this playoff thing. 879 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 2: But one thing that's happening here in college football is 880 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: this transfer portal stuff. We have talked about this at 881 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 2: times because you talk about it because you got big name, 882 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: big time players changing places all the time. 883 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I always look at them a draft perspective, but. 884 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 2: They have an early transfer portal in December. 885 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so going on right now, it's like free. 886 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: Agency right now in college football. And to your point, 887 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: you just mentioned there's college football playoffs or coming up 888 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 2: right this weekend or yeah, this weekend, they start Friday. 889 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 2: I think it's the first game and you have players 890 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,760 Speaker 2: the the. 891 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: So it's like Ohio State losing dudes. 892 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: No, those teams aren't necessarily losing players, not big name 893 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 2: and players, because those players still want to play in 894 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: the college football playoffs. But if you're down the roster, 895 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: guys maybe can go into the portal. 896 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 3: They're definitely adding people though. 897 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: Teams that are in bowl games. The Marshall University, Marshall 898 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: University not a big time program. 899 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 3: Of course, but they put guys in your. 900 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 2: Had to decline playing in their bowl game because every 901 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 2: quarterback on the roster transferred left went into the portal. 902 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 2: So they had they were there, they were in a 903 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: bowl game, they got invited to a bowl game. They 904 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: were good enough to get to the ball, and then 905 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 2: all their quarterbacks said, you know what, we're going somewhere else. 906 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 3: Do you happen to know what the logic is of having. 907 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: I have no idea, and all the coaches are railing 908 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: against this, and one of the things that they say 909 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: about this. 910 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 3: Is like, how could it happen during the season. 911 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffen came out last week and said, this is like, 912 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: this would be like having NFL free agency. 913 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 3: In week thirteen. 914 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 2: It really would be just complete free agency, like anybody, 915 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: I don't care if you're under contract or not. 916 00:41:58,960 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 3: That's what he's said. 917 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: Boom, you're gone, You're out the door. I'm leaving. 918 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: The way I interpret would be like, that'd be like 919 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 3: having it like week fifteen when half the team the 920 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 3: playoffs started. Yeah, right, and then another one in May 921 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: or whatever. Yeah, that's nuts. 922 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: It's the most idiotic thing I've ever seen. 923 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 3: Right, how do you expect a team that still has 924 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: games to play? So conceivably, I know it wouldn't happen. 925 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 3: Oregon's rank number one. Their quarterback could transfer. 926 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: He's I know he's already done that. 927 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 3: A couple of times could transfer from whoever. 928 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: Those guys could transfer a starting quarterback for the playoffs. 929 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: I saw the announcement from Drew Aller today, I'm like, 930 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: is he transferring? 931 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 932 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that could happen. 933 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Okay, Bama is a good example, really big 934 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 3: program that's not in the playoffs. 935 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: They got a bunch of guys transfer. 936 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 3: Are they calling SMU and guys that are in the 937 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 3: playoffs right now saying yeah, you're not gonna win the 938 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: playoffs anyways, come to Bama. 939 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, soon's you're soon's you're out a little bit. Next 940 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 2: come to Bama. 941 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 3: I would be it's insane, it's insane. So this is 942 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: obviously wasn't the case at all when I was a PIT. 943 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 3: But a lot of these big programs now have a 944 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 3: front office. Oh, they basically have like a salary. That's 945 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 3: what that's what Mike Lombardi's doing. That he's doing North Carolina. 946 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: He's in former NFL GM, and that's what he's going 947 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: to be the basically the general manager out there recruiting 948 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,800 Speaker 2: guys in the transfer portal. 949 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: We were like, I wish that would have been the 950 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 3: case when I was a PIT because there wasn't a 951 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: position for me, you know, because you were the recruiting coordinator. 952 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 3: You also had to coach the running backs or something. 953 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, there was not personnel people. 954 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: But it's now become like the NFL because Now it's 955 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: how much money can you offer me? And that's why 956 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: these guys are going into the portal. Well, I'm going 957 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 2: to of course, I'm going to go into the portal 958 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 2: and see what's out there money wise for me. 959 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 3: I should know how the portal works better than this. 960 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: But if I enter the portal and I go to Pitt, 961 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: I'm from Pitt and I go into the portal, that 962 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 3: doesn't mean I can't go back to Pitt, right or 963 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: does that mean I have left that I don't know 964 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 3: you left? Okay, yeah, okay, yeah. 965 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: So once you go into the portal, you're in the portal. 966 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: Okay, you're a free agent. 967 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: Now guys have gone into the portal, transferred for a year, 968 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: and gone back to their original school. 969 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure there's crazy stories that people bounce around. 970 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 2: But it's just it's just insanity to me. 971 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 3: Which is like Davian Clowney is leaving one team, go 972 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 3: to next to next the next year. Yeah, I understand 973 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 3: that happens, but they're under contract. You're right, I mean 974 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: you choose somebody signed you, right, Yeah, I don't know. 975 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 3: The whole recruiting I used to think was great. You 976 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 3: bring you get to know these kids, why are sixteen seventeen. 977 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: You bring them in, you watch them grow up, you 978 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 3: know their family. Now they're going to play for five 979 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 3: schools before they get to the NFL five while they're 980 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 3: spending any money and recruiting. 981 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and anyway, to me, I would look at that. 982 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: And we've had this conversation in the past about guys 983 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: who transfer, you know, guys who declined to play in 984 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: their bowl game. 985 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember McCaffrey was the first ones, and like, oh, 986 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 3: he's soft, we can't draft him high. That's like nothing. 987 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: Now it's like they're transferring to me, a guy who 988 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: transferred every year to go to a different or better 989 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 2: level because you're already getting paid. Yeah, but you're leaving 990 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 2: you this school A to go to school B because 991 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,880 Speaker 2: they're going to offer you more money. That to me 992 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: would be something that I would put I would look 993 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 2: at a little differently if I am scouting this guy 994 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: because he's just in this for the money. 995 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 3: Like, I wouldn't hold it against bow Nicks not working 996 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 3: out at Auburn. 997 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: Spent your forty years at Auburn, Right, you're a red shirt, 998 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: a senior. That's what your graduate students. Okay, that's what. 999 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 3: It's all about. Yeah, Russell Wilson did it from State 1000 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 3: to wiscon yin when you were grad students, you went, 1001 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 3: you know, he went somewhere else. That's that's perfectly fine. 1002 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 3: I think that's commendable. Go see, you know, another year 1003 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 3: of college, different group of college coaches, et cetera. 1004 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: But the guys who are just taking them, okay, they're 1005 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,800 Speaker 2: gonna give me an extra you know, another fifty thousand dollars. 1006 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 2: I'm out the door, like, yeah, what about the guys 1007 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: you were just working with? What about your you know 1008 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: you love this university yesterday? Yeah, now you don't, like, 1009 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: just keep it local. 1010 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 3: Like best kid at Slippery Rock goes to pitt the 1011 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 3: next year, gets a nice chunk of money. Then the 1012 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 3: next year he goes to Penn State, gets a better 1013 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: chunk of money, and then he goes to Ohio State 1014 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 3: and gets better chunk of money. I'm like, I don't 1015 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 3: know that I'm drafting you, you know. 1016 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: And I get it, you know, for you know, these guys, 1017 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 2: your football career only lasts so long. 1018 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 3: I never will besmudge anyone for earning because you blow 1019 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 3: your knee eye in any second. 1020 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: Of course, but it does make me wonder about loyalty. 1021 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 3: Wouldn't better a. 1022 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: Little loyalty a little bit? Again, you work with these guys, 1023 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 2: and I see the camaraderie in the locker room, and 1024 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: I've played in enough sports over over time that and 1025 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 2: you know, like my senior year in high school, I 1026 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: sprained my knee really bad at like a seventy five 1027 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: ACL tear. I missed five games and came back and 1028 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 2: played because I wanted to be there for the guys 1029 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 2: on that team, and it was my senior year. I 1030 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: wasn't going to miss that because you know, we had 1031 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: a chance to do something special and I wanted to 1032 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: be there with those guys to do that. 1033 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 3: But if it would have been inflated and you were 1034 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 3: the starting left tackle with Bama with the exact same situation, 1035 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: and you're like, well, I can make three if I 1036 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 3: come back, I mean like, there are a lot of 1037 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 3: reasons to sit out, you know what I mean. I 1038 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 3: would also look at the other way that the Mason 1039 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 3: mccormicks of the world, that state. 1040 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 2: State he had opportunities to go somewhere and make big money, right, 1041 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 2: he could have gone somewhere and made considerably more money 1042 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 2: than they're paying him at South Dakota State, and he stayed, 1043 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 2: and he stayed. 1044 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 3: I think like verse was that way. 1045 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 2: I guess picking the cornerback from Toledo that Quinny Mitchell 1046 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: right opportunity. You tell me he didn't have opportunities to 1047 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 2: go somewhere else. He absolutely did, But he showed that 1048 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 2: loyal That to me means something. 1049 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 1050 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 2: If I'm looking at these guys. 1051 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,920 Speaker 3: It would definitely break ties in yeah, for room for me. 1052 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'd bump them around just because he's loyal. 1053 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm not taking him in the third round if I 1054 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: was Ford. 1055 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 2: But if I'm breaking ties. 1056 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 3: But if it's two guards and one of them's from 1057 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 3: a Cormick route. 1058 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah taking him. This guy's This guy's a team player. 1059 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 2: This guy's gonna he's gonna go out there and give it. 1060 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: All for his loyalty. Yeah, cares about the people around him. 1061 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't It's not just about the money for him. 1062 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know. It's a wild, wild West. I 1063 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: have very little respect for what's going on. 1064 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 2: I can't imagine being involved in that. 1065 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 3: Right. I've been asked, would you want to go back 1066 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 3: to but No, that's terrible. I don't understand it anymore. 1067 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 2: I don't know why Belichick wants to deal with it. 1068 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 2: That's why Saban got out of it. Wow, his buddy 1069 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: Saban gets out of it, and Belichick's getting back into it. 1070 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 3: You see that Belichick only has a one million dollar. 1071 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 2: I get it. 1072 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: But if the Jags call, I think he could get 1073 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 3: right away and be like, well, you could hire my son. 1074 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 3: He's already here. Yeah. Maybe, I don't know. I think 1075 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 3: that story is written for the year, but I'm not sold. 1076 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. There's there's there's things can always change. 1077 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 3: But I'm kind of look forward to the playoffs though. Yeah, 1078 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 3: that's a cool thing, but. 1079 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm not going to see Marshall in any Bowl games 1080 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: this year. All their quarterbacks transferred, Like, hey, you could 1081 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 2: be like the Broncos when they had to play during COVID. 1082 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, the wide receiver playing. 1083 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: Quarterback like pretty close, and the Marshall front office, the 1084 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: student or the sports departments like that was a nice 1085 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 3: payday for us to turn it down. Yeah, we could 1086 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 3: have given that the next quarterback. Now we can't get 1087 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 3: that money. 1088 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 2: Can't even do that right Anyways, that's gonna do it 1089 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 2: for today's show. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for 1090 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: Justin Miller here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline 1091 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 2: and the soundboard Force, and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure 1092 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 2: our video gets out there on the YouTube. You can 1093 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 2: check that out there. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank 1094 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on 1095 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.