1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, following the Sallow Tuscott pick and now 5 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and 6 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's it's a wonderful Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys 7 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star 8 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Welcome in for the next forty five minutes. 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: We break things down with this Dallas Cowboys organization, and 10 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna unleash the beast when it comes to breaking 11 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: down those Arizona Cardinals as they come to town on 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: Monday night. But you're on Talking Cowboys. Heck Ma Harrison, 13 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, isa stand back, I'm Kyle Yelmans and guys, 14 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: it's it's a fun week because we finally I feel 15 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: like this is the week we finally get to see 16 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: who this Dallas Cowboys team really is. And I know 17 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: a lot of fans will immediately kind of say, but 18 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: what do you mean, Kyle, We have a quote unquote 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I still think that Andy Dalton should be 20 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: considered a starting quarterback in the NFL, but you have 21 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in for Dak Prescott. However, whenever you 22 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: look at the teams that the Cowboys have played, and 23 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the team that the Arizona Cardinals are, 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: this is the first time you could really look at 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: an opponent and say they're not a contender, and they're 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: not oh and five. At the same time, I mean, 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: they're not winless teams. Whenever you talk about the wins 28 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: and losses that the Cowboys have had, rob and I 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: know whenever you look at the Cardinals specifically, there are 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: a ton of tough matchups. But at three and two, 31 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: this is a team that I think could really be 32 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: susceptible and allow us to get an accurate look at 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 1: how this roster is built out. That's a good point. 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that. You know, it's not it's 35 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: not the Falcons and it's not Seattle, so it's somewhere 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: in between. I think it comes down to it's gonna 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: come down to which defense shows up and is more consistent, 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: because I think the Cardinals defense has been more consistent 39 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: than the Cowboys. I think any defense in the league 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: just about has been in terms of where they stand statistically. 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: But that game they lost a couple of weeks ago 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to Carolina Man, they got shredded. They got shredded in yards, 43 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: they got shredded in points, and without Chandler Jones, It'll 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the Cowboys can can match 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: up against it. We're gonna get into that, but defensively, 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: which team brings it more is going to make the difference, 47 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I think in week Week six. Yeah, my thoughts, My 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on this game are going to all revolve around 49 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: turning the fall over and if we can correct those mistakes, 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: we will probably put ourselves in any ball game versus 51 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: any opponent. It's the it's just those self inflicted things 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: that we've done over the course of the last five games, 53 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: and it's turnovers on our side of the field that 54 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: have all been points for the for the other team. 55 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: So limiting those are going to help us a lot. 56 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: And obviously with Andy Dalton, we're going to have to 57 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: modify our game plan. And I'm not saying dumb it down. 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: I just believe it's going to be a modified game 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: plan in order to give us some success on offense. Yeah, 60 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep leaning on the fact of the type 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: of possession, right, And I know it kind of goes 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: hand in hand with a lot of different aspects of 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the game. But Rob alluded to the defense. I'm a 64 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: big component of obviously, defense really controlling the game. And 65 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: as long as we can keep this offense off the 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: field and we can remain on the field, we win 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: that time possession, and that's exactly what we need to do. 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: I see that Arizona has had the ball, you know, 69 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: almost twenty nine minutes every game, on average of twenty 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: nine minutes, and we have not had that. We we 71 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: have not been there. We've We've lost every every game 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: I think in a time of possession aspect. And that's 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: something that we have to turn around this game if 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: we want to win. I win and looked it up, Isaiah. 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are thirty first in average time of possession. 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: I think it's like twenty six. Opponents are averaging the 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: having the ball seven more minutes a game than the Cowboys. 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous. And if you the only team worse 79 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: is the Jets. So if you're in the Giants are 80 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: right there, Washington's right there. Those are three teams you 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: don't want to be right next to really in any 82 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: stat So you're right, they've they've got to and it 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: ties into turnovers. Like Hekma said, two more last week, 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: you lose the turnover battle again, but yet you win 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: the game. So that's not going to happen too often. 86 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: They've got to clean it up. And we mentioned it yesterday, 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: and I think Heckma brought up a fantastic point about 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and the fact that Kyler Murray will turn 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: the football over. He's thrown six interceptions already and he's 90 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: at eight touchdown passes, so that touchdown interception ratio not 91 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: as bad as what we saw with Daniel Jones last 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: week from the Giants perspective, but this is still a 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: quarterback that's going to force some mistakes and it's gonna 94 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: put you in a situation as a defense to take advantage. 95 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: The Cowboys did take advantage last week with de Marcus 96 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence and the scoops scoop and score from Anthony Brown 97 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: as well, But whenever you look at the teams that 98 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have beaten, a combined oz and ten. That's 99 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: really a statistic that I think a lot of people 100 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: might already know because of how bad the Giants and 101 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: the Falcons have been. But you look at the teams 102 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: they've lost to are a combined thirteen and two. Right now, 103 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: when you talk about the Browns, the Seahawks, and of 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: course the season opener against the Los Angeles Rams, but 105 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: then the Arizona Cardinals who come in at three and two, 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: the teams that they have beaten are a combined three 107 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: and twelve. So, Isaiah, whenever you look at preparation from 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: week to week in the NFL, the saying is, hey, 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: let's our next opponent, It's going to be that same 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: kind of mentality. But whenever you have a team that's 111 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: coming in that like Rob said, it is somewhere in 112 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: between a Falcons or a Giant, in between a Seahawks 113 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: or Browns. How does that change your week of preparation 114 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: as a player. It doesn't change it at all. You know, 115 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: I've never been a real big stat guy. I'm a 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: big believer in you know, every week it's a new week, 117 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: right It's a new opponent, and every team matches up 118 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: differently against other teams. That's just facts, right, Personnel versus personnel, 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: scheme versus scheme. So yeah, I could look at my 120 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: record and say, Okay, we lost, we lost to the Rams, 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: we lost to the Seahawks, you know, but guess what, 122 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, we might we might match up pretty well 123 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. Right. It just really comes down to position, 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: positions of play, and then obviously it's schemes. So I mean, 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't put much weight on previous records or any 126 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: of that stuff. You better show up and play every 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: week in this league. The only the only stat that 128 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: doesn't ever seem to lie is the turnover battle. Yea, absolutely, 129 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: the last I think the Cowboys in the last year's 130 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: a stat, but it's turnover stat. In the last twenty years, 131 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: they've had a negative turnover ratio eleven times. They missed 132 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the playoffs ten out of eleven years, and the only 133 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: year they didn't miss it, they were right, you know, 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: they were in position actually when they had a positive 135 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: turnover ratio just about every year they made the playoffs. 136 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: When they didn't, it was those eight and eight years 137 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: with Garrett when they were right last week of the 138 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: season trying to win the division. So yeah, you know, 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe with Dalton, maybe they're they're going, like Heckma said, 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to be a little bit more balanced 141 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: and try to do some things where they're not putting 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: in some of its scoreboard related but not putting your 143 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: offense in a position where were your turnover risky. You know, 144 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: they got to clean that part of it up. I guess, 145 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I guess the good news is I think the Cardinals 146 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: are are negative for right now on the turnover ratio, 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: so that's that's a positive. Yeah, And Kyle, I just 148 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: wanted to say, you know, it's an old boxing term. 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Styles make fights, and the Cowboys have been looking for 150 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: that style that matches this, that they can have dominance. 151 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: We thought we were gonna have that with in the 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland game versus their running game, and man did they 153 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: show us with their running game. We also thought the 154 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: same thing with the Giants are X coming in and 155 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: we surrender thirty four points to Giant to the Giants, 156 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: so we're not in a position to overlook anyone, especially 157 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: when you're giving up one hundred and sixty points in 158 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: the last four games. I mean, my D I S 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: D math may not be that good, but that's about 160 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: forty points a game. And when you look at that 161 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: ratio and you talk about us making history by still 162 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: winning two of those games after giving up close to 163 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: forty points. Man, those are the things that have to 164 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: be corrected. Now. I talk about the turnovers, and those 165 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: are very important because you put your defense at a disadvantage. 166 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: But at some point we are going to have to 167 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 1: take advantage of the matchups that we have on our 168 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: side as far as defensively are offensively, to take advantage 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: of these games so that we can break these games open. Basically, 170 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: it's what I'm trying to say. We just haven't been 171 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: in a situation like that because every game we play 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: has been a track meet. It's been a track making 173 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: and I think this one will have an opportunity to 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: be a track meet as well as Today, of course 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: being Thursday, we're going to break down the Cowboys offense 176 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: against the Arizona defense, and that Arizona defense guy has 177 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: had a huge blow and I mentioned it yesterday when 178 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: the breaking news came down as three time Pro Bowler, 179 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: two time first team All Pro Chandler Jones is out 180 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: for the season for the Cardinals at linebacker. Injured his 181 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: right arm during the first half of last Sunday's win 182 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: against the Jets. But whenever you miss a guy like that, 183 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: This guy who had nineteen sacks a year ago only 184 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: had one sack this year, but he was once again 185 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: just a presence in that front seven for Arizona. But hecklo, 186 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: whenever there's not a guy like that across the line 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, how much easier does it make it for 188 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: a guy like Andy Dalton coming in as first week 189 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: as a starter for the Cowboys. Well, yeah, obviously he's 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: going to be a noted miss, notable miss for the Cardinals. 191 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: But at the same time they have some dudes still 192 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: number ninety eight, Corey Peters, he's a presence in the middle, 193 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that does push the pocket. So um, 194 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: I think when when it's not we're not at the 195 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: point as a team where if there's a guy missing, okay, 196 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: we could take advantage of this, We're still gonna have 197 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: our word cutout for us. I mean, Angelo Blackson, number 198 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: ninety six, he's got six six, three hundred and forty pounds. 199 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: So look, I know, Jones being you know, the injury 200 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: does kind of say, okay, we have it a little 201 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: bit easy because we don't have that dog up front. 202 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: But nah, not really. Uh and especially on the back end, man, 203 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: their secondary is strong and well we'll get into that. 204 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: But guy's like Budda Baker and Pat Pe. Look, this 205 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be a challenge for our offense no matter 206 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: how you frame it. Yeah, it could be. It could 207 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: be looked at as a gift, or it could be 208 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: looked at as a curse. Right, because you think about 209 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: it from a defensive defensive coordinator's perspective, as soon as 210 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: you lose your number one pass rusher, what's the first 211 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: thing that you're gonna do to apply pressure. You're gonna blitz. Blitz. Yeah, 212 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blitz, right, And these guys have the they 213 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: have the personnel in the secondary in order to blitz 214 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: and not sacrifice, you know, the ability to cover somebody. 215 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: So these guys can stay on you, man to man, 216 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: they will get in your face. They will they will 217 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: stay in your hit pocket the entire route and enforce 218 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: a very contested catch. So with that being the case, 219 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: if I'm a defensive coordinare okay, my guys can can cover. 220 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: So guess when I'm gonna send him. Now I don't 221 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: have my guy that could bring pressure just on that 222 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: one side, So now I'm sitting my dogs. Now you 223 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: have matchup problems on the offensive line in a tight 224 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: end and a running back front because you're bringing guys 225 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: from the front of the second level when you bring 226 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: guys from the secondary as well to create pressure. Yeah, 227 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to see how they adjust without without 228 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, because you know they've got Zach Allen there 229 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: as as a down lineman, but maybe he could he 230 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: could switch into more of that outside role. Hassan Reddick. 231 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: They've got a guy guard Deck who's got two sacks, 232 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: who's kind of stepped up for them. But aside from 233 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: that Carolina game hight reference, they didn't get any pressure 234 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: on Teddy Bridgewater at all. Besides that game, they've been 235 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: pretty good in terms of kind of across the board, 236 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: getting some pressure the middle pressure with Jordan Phillips Corey Peters. 237 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: As Heckma mentioned, I think they've got fourteen sacks on 238 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the year, So yeah, I think to Isaiah's point, they 239 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: feel like they probably can get pressure. They could be 240 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: selective with their blitzes, but they might be able to 241 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, hold things down where they don't have to 242 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: sacrifice their secondary on the back end and or trust 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: those guys to do that without having to give him 244 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: help back there. And we'll talk about the secondary coming 245 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: up here in just a little bit. But of course, Kingsbury, 246 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and addressing Chandler Jones's absence, said he wasn't sure whether 247 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: Vans Joseph, the defensive coordinator for Arizona, is actually going 248 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: to make a single replacement for Jones at that outside 249 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: linebacker spot, or it'll be a rotation with Fitz guard 250 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: deck like Rob just mentioned, and also Reddick in there 251 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: as well. There's a couple of guys that could fill 252 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: that spot. But whenever you talk about that front seven 253 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: and the pressure they put even without Chandler Jones being 254 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: in the fold, and Isaiah, I know you've you've been 255 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: critical of this offensive line that has played better over 256 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, But how do you feel 257 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: like they match up specifically against the tackles on the outside. 258 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: I think they match up okay right now. Honestly, I 259 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: think I think they're okay. I think I'm more concerned 260 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: with that internal, uh defensive line and the type of 261 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: signs that they have up there. They're they're able when 262 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: you watch them on the films, they're able to get 263 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: some really good push um against there against the posting 264 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: offensive line. So that's probably more of my concern than 265 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: it is more so the edge rush um. And honestly, 266 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: that presents a bigger issue for us because you know, 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: because we have a Ricky in there as well, um, 268 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: and you know we have him, we have Connor Williams, 269 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: both of those guys who are a little light um 270 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: lighting the butt as I would say, for interior alignment. 271 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: So um, that's probably the biggest challenge. But in terms 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: of our tackles and with the issues that we've been 273 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: having in that regard, m I actually feel okay, yeah. 274 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: And you know, for me, when I look at uh 275 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Zack Martin in the middle, I think he helps us 276 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: tremendously at what you're alluding to, Isaiah, because he's the 277 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: guy that you know next to be honest, which bey 278 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: honest man is he's putting it out there man, and 279 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: he is a oh he's going after people. I love 280 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: what the rookie is doing. So I feel confident with that. 281 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: I mean, Connor isn't going to be by himself and 282 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: they'll be able to get him some some help. But 283 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be the way that Arizona stacks 284 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: and where their strength is is where we're stronger in 285 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: our interior line, and that's you know, at the right 286 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: guard position. So I'm looking forward to that matchup. Yeah, 287 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: be honest, did a nice job, excuse me, in this 288 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: first start. I think he gave up a sack second half, 289 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: but overall, what he's been able to do really impressive. 290 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: I thought this quote from Patrick Peterson guys was really 291 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: interesting though, just in terms of the Cardinals approach potentially 292 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: this game. He said he told CBS Sports stop the run. 293 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: Definitely got to stop the run and force not saying 294 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: he can't do it, but we have to force Andy 295 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: Dalton to beat us. We feel if you, if you 296 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: take the ball out of Ezekiel Elie's hands, there's more 297 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: opportunities for bad things to happen if the ball is 298 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: in the air. So and now he made I think 299 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: he went out of way to say that wasn't a 300 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: knock on Andy Dalton, but clearly that's their approach, and 301 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: so how do they approve it? Like do they do 302 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: they load up to stop the run or like A said, 303 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: so they feel like they can just kind of play 304 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: it straight and do it that way because that's been 305 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: that's been a game plan of every team. That's been 306 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: a game plan of every team we faced. I mean, 307 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, nothing's sa that is that's I mean, 308 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: that's the truth, right, He's not spending anything, he's not 309 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: shooting any shots. I mean, we have averaged over what 310 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: forty four passes I think this year per game. I mean, 311 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: that's absurd, right, So, I mean it's just clear that 312 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: way that teams are taking away the run and they're 313 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: trying to make you know, before you know, before Dak 314 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: got hurt, Dak was throwing it up there too. Luckily 315 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: they weren't getting intercepted. But there's plenty of opportunities for 316 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: teams to get I and T. So that's essentially what 317 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson's alluding to. They are very confident in the 318 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: secondary affair for right, for the very sole right reasons. Now, 319 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: with that being said, and this could be a stupid question, 320 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna ask it anyways because I'm the host. 321 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: But whenever it comes to taking care of the football 322 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: and you we just talked about how the game plan 323 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: hasn't changed, and you want to force Andy Dalton to 324 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: throw the football, much like how Dak Prescott was forced 325 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: to throw the football. Who are you more comfortable taking 326 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: care of it and not turning over a couple different times? 327 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: You think it's Andy Dalton or is it Dak Prescott? 328 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: In terms of your two quarterbacks, I know Dak Prescott's 329 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: out of the fold right now, but whenever who's back 330 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: behind center? Who are you more comfortable having not turned 331 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: over the footback? Okay? By how much of a margin? Though? 332 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Bye a lot? Really? Why bye a lot? He's He's right, 333 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean, because you look at the number statistically, he 334 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: hasn't been a turnover machine. He may have had a 335 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: year where he had thirteen interceptions, but if you go 336 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: back to Andy Dalton's career, his tenure career, he's he's 337 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: had a few well a year with fifteen or twenty interceptions, 338 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: So that's I mean, that's I'm just basing it off 339 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: of the numbers. I would he's he it's not a 340 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: guy that turns the ball over. Hadn't been a guy 341 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: that's turned the ball over this first four games. Obviously 342 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: he was on a roll to go somewhere we didn't 343 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: want to see. But at the same time, yeah, just 344 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: based off of those numbers, I would say that, Okay, 345 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: I feel more secure with with Andy personally, and obviously 346 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: I liked but I think Andy's a better pastor. That's 347 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: I just feel like he's just an all around better pastor. 348 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I think he's more experienced. I think he's seen more. 349 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be more confident with this 350 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: office in line than Dak was because Dak was spoiled 351 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: with his previous OFFICI lines now and now it's Andy 352 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: Dozen's time to be spoiled. You know, even with this 353 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: office and line, he's now spoiled compared to what he's 354 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: had in the pass. So I think he has every 355 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: reason to continue to be confident with his abilities. And 356 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: he's done it for a while. And you know, you 357 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: allude to some of the previous stats and I said, 358 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm not really a stat guy, but you know, look, 359 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: look what he was doing it with you. I mean 360 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: he was, he was he was having to try to 361 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: force things with that with that squad man. So you know, 362 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing him, um now in this 363 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: and this replacement role. I'm seeing what he does with this, 364 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: with this opportunity, I would lean towards Dak just because 365 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: I think he's had some some stretches in his career 366 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: where he's turned it over too much and this is 367 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: one of them. But but it's been such a weird 368 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: start where they've I mean, when you throw it sixty 369 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: times two straight games, like like Isaiah said, I mean, 370 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: there's something that he got away with. But you're also 371 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: trying to force it too, because you're trying to get 372 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: back in the game, and it just it just lends 373 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: itself to more high risk situations. So you know, I 374 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: think Dalton's got They've got a chance to be more 375 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: careful with the ball if they're more balanced, and if 376 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: they try to get Zeke more involved, because like I 377 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: think Patrick Peterson said it, when the balls in the air, 378 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: there's just greater risks. Now you've got greater risk for 379 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: big plays, and I think you win games mainly based 380 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: off chunk plays. But I think they need to do 381 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: what they can to help Andy Dalton out where he's 382 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: not trying to just put it on his arm. And 383 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I agree with Heck by the fact of it being 384 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: interception wise I think Dak Prescott was probably a little 385 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: bit more conservative in the throws that he was willing 386 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: to make. Andy Dalton's gonna take some shots. He's gonna 387 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: take shots downfield. We saw that even in the game 388 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: winning drive that he had with Michael Gallup. You're gonna 389 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: see the ball push down field a little bit more 390 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: with Andy Dalton. But it's something that I think is notable. 391 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott in his five seasons or I guess four 392 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: in a quarter season's thirty four fumbles. Andy Dalton in 393 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: nine career years has fifty seven, So just a couple 394 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: more in about four pretty much five more years than 395 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott overall. Fumbling the football. That's not a stat 396 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: that's brought up with quarterbacks a whole lot, but I 397 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: think it does pay dividends in terms of holding onto 398 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: the football and being ball secure whenever it comes to 399 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: the table. 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Fletcher with us on 438 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com and all of our various streaming platforms. 439 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: Isaiah stand back, our resident Super Bowl Champion, Cowboys Insider 440 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and the Great heck, my Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeomans, 441 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: and uh, we were just kind of getting into the 442 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: debate of Dak Prescott, who or Andy Dalton who takes 443 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: care of the football better as a quarterback as a 444 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: starter in this league, and really I think we were 445 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: pretty split on who we tru more with the football. 446 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: And Isaiah, you a statement in the middle of the 447 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: break that Rob especially found interesting. I found it interesting 448 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: as well. But what was that statement that you made 449 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton. I'm just saying that I feel like 450 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is he protects the ball better. Okay, He's 451 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: just a better protector of the ball in my In 452 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, I think that he's he's more conscious and 453 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: of the ball and that I've been from all his 454 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: time in Cincinnati where they just they can afford to 455 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: turn the ball over that much. I don't know, but now, 456 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: but he's better in the party with the ball. You 457 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: see him. He has to, you know, as as seabeard 458 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Um mentioned, he keeps both hands on the ball versus 459 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: Dak has one hand on the ball. It's just he's 460 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: more technically sound than Dak and that gains no shots. 461 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: He's been around longer, right, so he should be more 462 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: technically sound and didn't die. Um, and then he doesn't. 463 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't throw them, he doesn't just throw the ball 464 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: up there for chance as much. In my opinion, UM, 465 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: I think he's a lot more precise passer, and I 466 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: think he's just just yeah, he's just more efficient in 467 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: that regard. I'm not saying a better overall quarterback right now, 468 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: but when I am saying in certain of these aspects 469 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: and where we have to be sure right now, I 470 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: think he's better. That's kind of where I think he 471 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: hates rather to ride. I was gonna lad it. Do 472 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: you want this? What you got? Now? You know what 473 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm trying to lift this breathe because I 474 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: feel as though the backup always gets all the right 475 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: because he's the guy you hadn't seen it, go ahead, 476 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: He's the guy, yeah seen, and you will tell me, 477 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: you know. I believe that everyone's trying to sell this 478 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: narrative that, oh, the Cowboys are in better shape now 479 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: than what they were with that I don't believe it. 480 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you said that, but no, I'm 481 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: not saying that. What I'm saying is there is a 482 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: narrative that's being written that we are in at our hands. Okay, like, oh, 483 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. The backup is gonna thank you 484 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: guys where you want to be. And also because the 485 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: division is so bad, you guys can just walk into 486 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I just don't see that. I don't I 487 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: don't see that. What I see as a Cowboys team 488 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: that because they've lost, that they're gonna have to retool 489 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the things that they do. I think 490 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's experience is going to make it where you 491 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: don't have to limit what you do in your playbook, 492 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: but there are certain things that Dad has done in 493 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: your offense that you are going to miss. And so 494 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: this year Dak was taking the next steps to be 495 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: the elite quarterback. He was threading needle. He wasn't throwing 496 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls, oh, just throwing it up by chance 497 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: and hoping that a guy runs under it. I see that. 498 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, because we are dealing 499 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: with them, we have to deal with Andy Dalton as 500 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I just can't throw away the fact that 501 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: he was on the team last year that went oh 502 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: and eight with him starting. Uh, they brought in another 503 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: quarterback that failed miserably and he ended up coming back. 504 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: But that was the reason why the Cincinnati Bengals had 505 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft. So if we're gonna 506 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: keep it real, if we're gonna keep it real, let's 507 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: keep it all the way real, and don't tell me that, oh, 508 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: we're in good hands. No, we have some things that 509 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: we have to change too. Let's go absolutely, let's freaking 510 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: you want to have a real quip before our going ahead? Heck, 511 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: let's go now, I've got I'm about I'm about to 512 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: unleash the beast. Listen to it. Okay, Hey, you're trying 513 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: to talk about a team records as if the quarterback 514 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: is more than one of eleven players on the field, right, 515 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 1: And I understand he plays his position, he plays his role, 516 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: but he cannot affect the play every other person on 517 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: that field. He can't affect the player. He can't not 518 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: at all, not at all. And I've happened to play 519 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: that position. So no, you do not get those wins. Right, 520 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: this organist, that organization is terrible, right that the whole 521 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: organization was terrible. He went, he had new head coaches, 522 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: the front office, sucked, right, the sports system sucking. I mean, 523 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: I mean free Andrew Worth left. I mean, come on, man, 524 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: like everybody in their mama was trying to get up 525 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: out of there right and have aj green for most 526 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: of the time, so I didn't have a surrounding surrounding castle. 527 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Let's not compare the fact that the team was terrible. 528 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Ask you the fact to how that he was as 529 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And again I've reiterated, he chose to be 530 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: a backup, so as everybody's looking, everybody's looking at him as, 531 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, the second string quarterback. And no, we're 532 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: not saying, at least I'm not saying heck that, oh 533 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: we're about to be a better team now because Andy 534 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Dalton's in Instead of that, that's not the case. But 535 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: when I am saying is Cowboys nations should not lower 536 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: their expectations of this twenty twenty, twenty twenty and twenty 537 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: twenty one Dallas Cowboys team simply because their second string 538 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: aka Pro Bowl quarterback is now coming in and taking 539 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: the round. That view should not lower your standard because 540 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: the production should not change. Now when you talk about 541 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: is are they gonna miss things? Of course, every quarterback 542 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: is unique. They're two different styles of quarterback. Dak has 543 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: a Tennessee to run more. Andy Dalton's gonna sit in 544 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: there with two hands on the ball and take care 545 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: and take care of the ball. Right, He's gonna be 546 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: more precision pascord I guess what. He's gonna take more 547 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: risks down the field and guess what with these receivers, 548 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: that's probably gonna be a good thing. Right. So, as 549 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about these things, yes, you're gonna miss some things, 550 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: but you're also gonna gain some things that you would 551 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: miss if it was the other way around. I think 552 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: there's a balance between. Yeah, like they're not they're not 553 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: better off with Andy Dalton. I don't believe that. I 554 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: think And obviously Dak, like Isaiah said, brings some different 555 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: things to the table in terms of read options stuff, 556 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: especially around the goal line. I think he has more 557 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: of an I think Andy Dalton's a mobile quarterback, but 558 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: I think Dak has more of an ability I think 559 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: to make things out of nothing when things break down, 560 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: which is really important in today's game. But yeah, I 561 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: mean I agree that you don't they expect I wrote 562 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: about this day. Expectation should not plumb it right now 563 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, Now, can they win a Super Bowl 564 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: without Dak and without with all these other injuries. It's 565 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: really hard to see at this point. But they're two 566 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: and three. It's the worst division in football. If they 567 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: can go four and two in the nfcast, just give 568 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: me four wins out of six, then a couple wins 569 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: here and there, eight and eight might win this division. 570 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: I think it very well could win this division. Maybe 571 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: seven and nine wins this division. Just get just just 572 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: get in the playoffs. Get in the playoffs and see 573 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 1: what happens. And I think absolutely the Cowboys. You know 574 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: they've they've made some moves this offseason that have not worked. Obviously, 575 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: two defensive signings and the season didn't make it through 576 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: training camp. Jerry McCoy got injured, obviously, But give the 577 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: front office credit for spending a little bit more at 578 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: the position. Three million bucks for Andy Dalton as opposed 579 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: to five hundred thousand for Cooper Rush over the last 580 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: couple of years. Whatever it was, that is looking like 581 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: a move that might save your season because he absolutely 582 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: can come in here and play absolutely ack. When you 583 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: got anything else to add there on your rebuttal side. 584 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, my thing has always been with Dak Prescott 585 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: not missing any snaps or two snaps in four years. 586 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton did come to Dallas to save the Cowboys, 587 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: to take us to a super Bowl. He came here 588 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: because he was gonna sit behind Dak. That's what it was. 589 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: He didn't say, hey, honey, we're going to Dallas because 590 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play, but I'm gonna get an opportunity to 591 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: play because Dak is gonna miss some games. That wasn't 592 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: what was going on. And so a feeling like he's 593 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: graced us with his presence is one thing. But another 594 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: part about this is the fact that I feel more 595 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: confident with Andy Dalton instead of Cooper Rush. That's for sure. 596 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's you're not being sincere 597 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: when you say, oh, he's gonna be that much, he's 598 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna be better than Dak. And I understand we preface 599 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: who said that, You're basically is that not what you're saying, 600 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: are you not? I mean, I would love for you 601 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: to run the film back and see where I said 602 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: he's better than Dak. I just said he's I think 603 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,239 Speaker 1: he's I think he takes I take he takes care 604 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: of the ball better than Dak. Yes, that's what I 605 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: did say. Okay, well just kind of it's I'm getting 606 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: a twinge of that, and so I'm just trying to 607 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: see where you at player. No, no, no, no, I'm 608 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: a very direct person to heck Man, I would never 609 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: just insinuate anything. Any Dalton is going to ball out. 610 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Let me just clear that up right now. He is 611 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: going it is. It is unfortunate that Dak Prescott is out. 612 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: Nobody on this podcast, nobody in Cowboys Nation wanted Dak 613 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: Prescott to get injured or not be president in any 614 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: form of fashion, whether it was his him sending his 615 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: franchise tender, whether it's him signing an extension. They everybody 616 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: wanted him to be playing. That's let's get that out 617 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: the way now. Being that he can't play anymore. Andy 618 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: Dalton is the best and I mean the best option, 619 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: not only as a secondary guy, a second guy. But 620 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: if you took any Dalton and said, hey, let's say 621 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: any Dalton versus the worst ten quarterbacks in the NFL's 622 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: worst twelve let's say the bottom twelve quarterbacks, right right, 623 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: who do you put ahead of him? I mean without 624 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: having names in front of me. I'm sure I would 625 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: have some names that would go in front of him. 626 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you if you're gonna 627 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: do a hypothetical like that, if Andy Dalton has started 628 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: the season with the Cowboys, what would our record be 629 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: hypothetically hypothetically two and three? M oh Man, I think 630 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if he brings 631 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: you back against it Land, I don't. I don't know. 632 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't have it brings you back, I don't. I 633 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: don't know if that, I don't know if it changed. 634 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it changed, because the reason why, 635 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: the reason why. And I'm not saying that the production 636 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: would have fell off. I don't think the production would 637 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: have been much different at all. Actually, um our defense 638 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: has sucked. That's what's games. That's so. But what I'm 639 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: saying is, but by saying that we can't as I, 640 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: people are trying to say there's gonna be a drop 641 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: off in production on office, there's not. There is not 642 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be a drop off in production. He's not 643 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: going to turn the ball over. He's a precision passer, 644 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: he's experienced. We're about to start facing AFC teams that 645 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: he's familiar with. Right, so, where where is this that 646 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna have this drop off? Exactly? I just want 647 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: to know. I just want somebody to pinpoint, Hey, guess what, 648 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: we are going to lose production because Andy Dalton can't 649 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: do this. I'm just waiting to hear that from anybody. Yeah, 650 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: I think if anybody think, I think, if there's any concern, 651 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: go for it, go for it. If there's any concern, 652 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: it just might be the protection up front as many 653 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: injuries as they've got. But he but I think he's 654 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: he's underrated as a guy that can at least buy time. 655 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not gonna he's not gonna scramble around 656 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: all day. And Dak doesn't either. Yeah, let's say he 657 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: isn't either, and they and they've both been in this 658 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: system for the same amount of time, right Yeah true? Now, 659 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: so uh ahead, Kyle, No, I think I think absolutely 660 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: they should still expect to go and win this division. 661 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: I still think they can do it. But it's gonna take. 662 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna get it's gonna take getting healthier on defense. 663 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: They need some guys back, They need to get better defensively, 664 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: just incrementally week to week like they did last week. 665 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: Last week was an improvement because you take away two 666 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: turnovers offensively that led to fourteen points. You know, they 667 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: didn't give up thirty four points defensively. They did a 668 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: better job. Some of their better players stepped up. You 669 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: do that, you clean up some things on special teams. 670 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: As a team, if you get better and you stay 671 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: relatively healthy after what you've been through already with Dalton, 672 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: I think absolutely they should expect to go and try 673 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: to win this division. Still. Yeah, I think that still 674 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: is the expectation. And I know Jerry Jones and Steven 675 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: Jones probably feel that same way. The expectations don't drop, 676 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: even though they might change a little bit, they don't 677 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: necessarily drop. It's just a different way of looking at 678 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season because of what happened. Whenever you're 679 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: building this roster moving forward. And I know yesterday we 680 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of got into who had the better supporting cast 681 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: for Andy Dalton and the Cowboys. I think the supporting 682 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: cast this year is better than anything else that Andy 683 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: Dalton's ever played with, maybe with the exception of the defense, 684 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: because even when you look at the defense in twenty 685 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty nineteen, they were thirtieth in the NFL, 686 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: and they were twenty sixth in the NFL in terms 687 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: of average yards per game allowed defensively and then on 688 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football. How about this from 689 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: last year in terms of support for Andy Dalton, the 690 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: leading rusher for Cincinnati last year didn't hit triple digits 691 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: until the ninth week of the season. Whenever they started 692 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: their O and eight run twenty one yards in game one, 693 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: seventeen in game two, sixty sixty two, ninety three, finally seventeen. 694 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: Then Dalton himself was the leading rusher in Week seven, 695 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: and then sixty six in Week eight when Mixon had 696 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: two yards as well. So I think overall, you look 697 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: at the supporting cast around Andy Dalton, the production might 698 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: be there for him. Finally as a quarterback, he's going 699 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: to get a chance in an audition to go start elsewhere. 700 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: I still think quarterback or Dak Prescott is your quarterback 701 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: of the future in Dallas. He's still gonna be here. 702 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: I believe the Jones family is still right there. Nobody's 703 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Dak Prescott. But for twenty twenty, 704 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: you have to deal with Andy Dalton. 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We're 752 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. We've got about eight minutes left, and I 753 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: don't know if eight minutes is enough to hold us 754 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: from a leashing the beast here and saying it with 755 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: our chest before say it with the Jess Friday. But 756 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna try our best and try and do so. 757 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: But I keep bringing this up from a Patrick Peterson perspective, 758 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: and I know, Isaiah, you have a ton of respect, 759 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: as does the rest of the league really in the NFL, 760 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: A ton of respect for Patrick Peterson, of course, a 761 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: ten year veteran in one of the best corners, best 762 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: defensive backs in all of football. But my question to 763 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: you this year he's only had ten tackles, he's had 764 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: that one interception, he's been targeted twenty seven times, and 765 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: he's allowed fifteen receptions. But is Patrick Peterson when you 766 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: watch him on film Isaiah, the same Patrick Peterson that 767 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: he has been. I don't know if I can say 768 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: he's the same. He might he lost a step, I mean, 769 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: but he's still poise, man, I mean I do still poise. 770 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: He's still he's still confident. Me. There's just a there's 771 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: just a calming, just peace about a dbs who are experienced, 772 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: you know. And I when I used to play against 773 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, Daryl Reeves, you know, and when I was 774 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: playing for New England, I mean, he was just chill. Right. 775 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: There's some guys you can get to move off their 776 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: mark and you can see their legitary. And then there's 777 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: some guys that are just so relaxed and it's just 778 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter what you do, Like they're just 779 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: moving like like poetry, you know. And that's what Patrick 780 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: Peterson does, right, And and and it helps on their 781 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: side that they have two University of Washington, you know, 782 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: you dub guys played in the secondary with them, you know, 783 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: And and and you know, I just gotta throw that 784 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: out there, and Byron Murphy and Buddha Baker, you know, 785 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: so those guys are coming along too, But no, I 786 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: mean Patrick Patrick Peterson is um, He's he's still that 787 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: guy and he's still to be respected in this league. Obviously, 788 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: there's there's younger guys that have, you know, stepped up 789 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: and feel like they feel like there's always somebody every 790 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: year that just comes out and they're like they're the 791 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: big deal of that year, and then like a year 792 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: or two later, they kind of fade to the black right. 793 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: But there's still those dudes, they're just not out in 794 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: the front. This is still one of those guys. Don't 795 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 1: disrespect them because he's gonna test all of our receivers 796 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: who decided to step out in front of him. And 797 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: I love Pat Pete man, I've been been a big 798 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: fan of his since lsu UM. But you know, he's 799 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: the closest thing, in my opinion to dunstanding is just 800 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: as far as his ability to lock down a side 801 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: of the field. Uh, Patrick, Pat p is amazing and 802 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: look father Time is father Time is undefeated. But still 803 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: don't test him. Yeah, he's he's he still is gonna 804 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: play in close quarters with any receiver that comes out 805 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: to his side. Uh. And he has everybody playing like that. 806 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: They play close to the line of scrimmage, which I 807 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: think is going to be an advantage for the Dallas 808 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys receivers who have been given a lot of cushion. 809 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: When you talk about when you talk about your you 810 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: Dub guy and Buddha Baker. I love the way that 811 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: he plays man. Buddha Baker is you know, obviously with 812 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: them knowing that they're gonna have to stop Zeke. Look 813 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: for Budda Baker to be down in the box because 814 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: he is a short fire tackler at the line of 815 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: him she comes on the bliss. He's just a guy 816 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: that you're gonna see thirty two moving all over the field. 817 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: But I think if they take that approach with us 818 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: on offense, I think that is what's gonna get give 819 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton to the most amount of success because of 820 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: his AFC North, what he's the what he has coming 821 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: from the AFC North, but his ability to find receivers quickly. Uh. 822 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: And so that experience is gonna pay off for him 823 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: in this game. Hopefully. Yeah. I don't know if he's 824 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, Peterson has dipped significantly and his production. I 825 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: know he's taking some criticism. I know he has said, 826 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, nobody's really testing me outside the numbers. They've 827 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: tested me inside and I'm crossing routes and things like that. 828 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,839 Speaker 1: So but heck him is right. Like Buddha Baker getting 829 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: him back last week from that thumb injury. He changes 830 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: them because he's great on the back end. He had 831 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: a sack last week. He's gonna line up in different places. 832 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna help shore up your secondary. I'm interested to 833 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: see what happens, though, because I don't think you know, 834 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: we talked about Ramsey in week one and how rams 835 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna take away a Mari Cooper, and Cooper still 836 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: had ten catches. So I think you still run your offense. 837 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: I still think you run your routes and you try 838 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: to get all your receivers involved depending on how they're 839 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: playing you defensively. So I don't I don't think it's 840 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: a situation where they're gonna take away one side of 841 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: the field. I think they're still gonna try to get 842 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: a Mari going. I thought it was interesting though that 843 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: a Mari only had like forty something snaps in the game. 844 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: They're really trying and he's not apparently dealing with an 845 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: injury that's showing up on the injury report. So they're 846 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: just they're trying to get all their receivers involved. And 847 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: we talked about that that long drive where it was 848 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: run heavy. That was said Wilson, Michael Gallup and and 849 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: Noah Brown Brown. So you know, they trust all of 850 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: their receivers, especially some of their blocking ability too. But 851 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see it. It's a it's a good 852 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: secondary overall. Their face in this week. I really do 853 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: like Buddha Bay a lot. It just kind of talking 854 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: about your you Dub guy. I mean, this is a 855 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: guy who's a little bit under size him. He's five ten, 856 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: ninety five pounds. He looks like he would normally be 857 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: in a in a high school a lot in terms 858 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: of the roster and the height and weight. But this 859 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 1: guy plays fierce. He's one of the best young safeties 860 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,919 Speaker 1: in the game. And I really do like him a lot, 861 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: and I think whenever you bring him up and put 862 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: him in the box, my one worry is if Ezekiel 863 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: Elliott gets to the next level. Isaiah do you think 864 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: Baker has enough juice to go up against Zeke? Whenever 865 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: we've seen Zeke a couple of times. He's had those 866 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: angry runs, he's had those trucks. But but can Buddha 867 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: Baker be a guy to bring him down one on one? 868 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the only person that can really come up 869 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: and lay the hit on on freaking Zekiel Elliott is 870 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: two guys, Um Cam Chancellor, he's retired, and freaking Sean Taylor, 871 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: who's who's not with us anymore. There's only two guys 872 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: that can come up and lay lay hits. Yeah, exactly, 873 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: I come up and lay a hit on Zeke. So 874 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: if he gets up to that level and he has 875 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: any steam behind him, anybody's gonna get They're gonna get 876 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: hit stick, they're gonna get truck He'll they'll they'll get tackled. 877 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: They'll still make the tack um. But I don't see 878 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,399 Speaker 1: nobody just blowing up Zeke when he has got kind 879 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: of momentum. I would throw Derrick Henry in there, if 880 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry decided to ever play line defense the other night. 881 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: But other than that, other than that, my god, here's 882 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: here's the name though, guys, Dalton Schultz. You know, Dalton 883 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: Schultz may have the ability to have a really big game, 884 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 1: h just based off of the way that they're going 885 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: to a line to stop the run. So I'm looking 886 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: for Dalton Schultz to be someone that gets some advantages 887 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: against strong safeties and linebackers, and now this is the 888 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: game for him to do that, especially with them trying 889 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: to limit and take away some of the things that 890 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: we do offensively. I'm just I'm really looking forward to 891 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: seeing our receivers get off this press coverage, and that 892 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: include Schultz too. I want to see them get off 893 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: press because we haven't We really haven't had to see 894 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: that that much. We really haven't had an opportunity to 895 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,279 Speaker 1: see them do that that much this year. Um, they 896 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: did a little bit obviously where we showed in the 897 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: film room, but that wasn't even really a real press Um. 898 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: These guys are gonna have hands on them and they're 899 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to get off the line image and I 900 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: am really looking forward to seeing can they do that 901 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: and then once the balls in the air, can they 902 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: go make the contested catches Because these aren't these aren't 903 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: no little young whipper snappers. They're playing against these dudes 904 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 1: can play and they they can find the ball just 905 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: as well as our Our receivers can very fundamentally sound 906 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: secondary for Vans, Joseph and defense. And we showed that 907 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: in film room Isaiah really quickly before we have to 908 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: sign off here, But who out of the Cowboys receivers 909 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: has the best chance and we'll have the most success 910 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: against press coverage? Cede Lamb? Oh, ceedee Lamb? You agreed? 911 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: You agree there, Isaiah, Rob, Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I 912 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: think this quickness off the line of scrimmage. I'll go 913 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: Ceede Lamb. I just wanted to hear his name a 914 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: couple of times in this show. We hadn't talked about it. 915 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew that's that's gonna do it 916 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: here for Talking Cowboys. It's been a whole lot of 917 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: fun over the last forty five minutes. Glad you've been 918 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: with us for Harrison, for Rob Phillips, for Isaiah Stanback 919 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 1: special thanks to Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yeoman 920 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: saying so long from the Star in Frisco. We'll see 921 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: you tomorrow for say It with your Chest Friday. This 922 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot com and 923 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club