1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. Today 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is our week eleven Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chad Melman, 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Chief Content. 5 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Officer of the Action Network. 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: We are coming off of a three and two week 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: in our contest. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: We reviewed most of our. 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Day extensively in our Sunday Night recap episode, but since 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: we had contest plays on The Jets on Sunday Night 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: and The Broncos on Monday Night for posterity, we went 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: one in one in those plays. We're going to dig 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: in a little bit for a minute on that. As 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: we said on the show on Sunday, a lot of 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: the lines we liked have already moved, which is why 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: you need to listen to the Sunday show if you 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: want to get the best of the number. 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Today. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Hey, we will get to our Simon says and our 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: exec decision. And by the way, don't forget me and 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: Simon going live in Hoboken, New Jersey, December third. The 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Sunday Night episode Shepherd and the Knucklehead in Hoboken. Free 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: to get in, free drinks, free chance to bet with 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: me and Simon to troll. Me and Simon will be 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: there for the afternoon games betting along with our friends 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: at bet three sixty five. You must rsvp. You must 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: check out the link in the description on the YouTube 28 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: page for this show and in the podcast page. Also 29 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: go to event bright dot com search the Favorites podcast 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: for more info and to rsvp this episode, we're going 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: to look the entire board as we begin narrowing down 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: the five picks we'll enter in the Favorites Podcast. One 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars Pro Football Pick Them contests still open 34 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: for sign ups, still free to play, still awarding weekly 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: in season long cash prizes go to Favorites dot Actionnetwork 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: dot com. Heading into week eleven, Simon and I are 37 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: in the top one hundred in the contest no joke, 38 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: five words behind the number one spot. Out of eleven 39 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: six hundred entries. We're inside the top one percent. I 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: expect it, yet it's still exciting. Everyone expects it of us, Simon, 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: because that's what happens when you're freaking professionals. 42 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: The entire leaderboard going to. 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: Get a shake up after the Thanksgiving week games. Everyone's 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: two lowest scores will get dropped. The leaderboard will re calibrate. 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: Let's bring in my co host, my bff, my companion, 46 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: mikem Padre, professional better Simon Hunter. Simon, Hello, Hello Simon. 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Here's the cold, hard truth about last week with so 48 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: much drama. We had a late night call from Hawaii 49 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: to Copenhagen because we had intel coming in. We made 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: big changes in the moment. We pulled two games out 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: of our original picks. We put two different games in 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: after all that, if we had done nothing, it would 53 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: have been exactly the same. We would have ended up 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: three and two, which shows you a how freaking hard 55 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: all of this is and how thin the margins are 56 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: for success and failure. I was watching that game last 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: night when we had the game going, I'm like, it 58 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: doesn't matter what happens. Nothing we did over the weekend 59 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: would have changed from what we decided on Thursday. Isn't 60 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: that amazing? 61 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? And it's also it just shows that this is 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: just a grind, like we always joke about it, but 63 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: that's what it is. End of the day where it's like, 64 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: I know everyone wishes we could go five and oh 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: or four and one every week, but that's just not 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 3: real life. Real life is you are the sharpest guy 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: in the room if you can go sixty percent. Me 68 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: and Chad talk about that all the time, and our 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: goal is always three in two and I have to 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: work really really hard to suck just enough to go 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: three and two every week. Like people don't know how 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: hard I work just to get that three on that 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: board every week. So felt good, especially after that Jets game, 74 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: a really hard week last week, and this week. I mean, 75 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: I hate the Jinxes, but I love these lines. I 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: love these lines this week. 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no no. 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I mean, 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: we're in the double digits. Teams are becoming what we 114 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: think they are. They're not in a place where you're like, oh, 115 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: this team could be different. These teams are what they are. 116 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is visiting Baltimore. Baltimore's favored by three and a half. 117 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: It's a Thursday night game, the first of seven divisional matchups. 118 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: And divisional matchups have been a key driver of success 119 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: for us this year. We tend to like the dogs. 120 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: I'll say this stat a lot today. Home teams in 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: the division since twenty fifteen are covering it just a 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: forty seven percent spread. 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: That includes Baltimore. 124 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Home favorites in the division since twenty fifteen, just a 125 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: forty five percent spread. Harball is a favorite of three 126 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: and a half for more under five hundred against the spread. 127 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: Lamar is a. 128 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Favorite of three and a half for more under five 129 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: hundred against the spread. And yeah, and yet, Simon, we 130 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: don't love the Bengals here. 131 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have crazy value on this line. I 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: make it number four. It's three and a half. I'm 133 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: on the Ravens then, so it's nothing crazy. I mean, 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: don't have to think too much into it. It's a 135 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 3: simple fact of it's a short week. You know, the 136 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: Bengals just played a really hard game. Now they're coming 137 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: on the road to play a team that they're coming 138 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: off their own bad loss, so just just a bat. 139 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: It feels like a bad spot for the Bengals, and 140 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, if you want to back them until they 141 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: get it, you're catching three and a half forward a 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: lot of books. You feel pretty good back in Joe 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: Burrow at that number. But keep in mind, I have 144 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: this stat here from Evan Abrams. The Bengals are one 145 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: in twenty three in their last twenty four road night games, 146 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 3: so you know their last win came back in twenty twelve. 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: That's a big deal. It's a team that at home, 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has done well in these night games, right, 149 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: Even me and Chat took them earlier this year against 150 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: the Bills at home. I believe they won by six. 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: They you know, they're just a different team, it seems 152 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: like at home than they are on the road, especially 153 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: in this spot, like going into play that Ravens team. 154 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: We know how crazy and loud that fan base can 155 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: be for the Ravens, and you know the fact this 156 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: is a standalone game, divisional game. Again, I can't fault 157 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: you for taking it chat to shit you with all 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: those stats. I just I don't like it that it's 159 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: a short week this late in the season. To me, 160 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: that's a big deal, and that gives a huge advantage 161 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: to this Ravens team, especially a team that you know 162 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: they're they're much better than that they played against the 163 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: Browns team. 164 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: Right. 165 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: I think I saw a crazy stat. I'm almost positive 166 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: Watson went fourteen for fourteen passing in the second half 167 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: against that Ravens team. You don't think they know that, Like, 168 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: that's gonna be bolton board material. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing 169 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: to let that happen to you at home and blow 170 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: a fourteen point lead. So I'm gonna trust the Ravens 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: here to bounce back in this spot. And we talked 172 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: coming in the season, this Bengals team, not that I 173 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: knew they're gonna have a season from hell, but I 174 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: said it to you. They'd won their division two years 175 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: on a like winning the North two years in a 176 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: row is basically a death sentence, just because you had 177 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 3: to have gotten so lucky for things to break right 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 3: for you to win in this tough division two years 179 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: in a row, and last year things broke right that 180 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 3: Lamar got hurt and they tailed off the Ravens and 181 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: the Bengals were able to catch up. This year, they 182 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: don't have that luck like these These quarterbacks have not 183 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: gotten hurt. Watson was the only one that's gone down 184 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: with an injury, and the Browns still won games with PJ. 185 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: Walker in there, Like the Bengals haven't had the luck 186 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: they've had in prior season. I mean even the Steelers, right, 187 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: the luckiest team in all football in their division. It 188 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: just hasn't broken right for this Bengals team. So yeah, 189 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: if you're betting like me on this Ravens team, you 190 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: might as well bet on the Bengals to miss the 191 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: playoffs as well, because if they don't win this game, 192 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: it feels like that's kind of it, right, They're gonna 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: miss the playoffs. 194 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: God, that's a great idea. 195 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of for this. I 196 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: keep watching Joe Burrow just be lip quivering devastated after 197 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: that loss to the Texans, to see how much it 198 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: means to him and sort of the pain. I'm not 199 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: saying that's why they can come back and win this game. 200 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: But I actually just find it to be an incredibly 201 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: human moment about how much these guys put into each 202 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: week of preparation and their competitive spirit. 203 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: So I felt watching Josh Allen last night, it's like 204 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: you literally just saw a man die on the field, 205 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: like you saw the life get sucked out of them 206 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: when they said the twelfth man was on the field, 207 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: And it's like, these guys are so highly competitive, like 208 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: you just said, So I agree, but you got to 209 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: go look, Lamar is feeling the same way, right. Lamar's 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 3: got to own that pick six and he's got to 211 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 3: wear this loss he just had against Cleveland. So I'm 212 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: right there with you. 213 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: I also was thinking about, you know, we were so 214 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: all in on the Bengals before we got off of them, 215 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: before we got off of them last week. And I 216 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: do wonder if last week, like did we think we 217 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: kind of overlooked it. It might have been a trap 218 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: game because they were looking ahead to this week. 219 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: Potentially. 220 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: I justin I'm still in all of everything CJ did, 221 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: even when I went back and watch the tape. I 222 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: just can't believe how bad that Bengals defense, which we 223 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: talked about played like they gave up over one hundred 224 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: and fifty on the ground to a backup running back, 225 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: like another running back that left the Bills and went 226 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 3: somewhere else and now is getting one hundred and fifty 227 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: and you know, letting a rookie throw for over three 228 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 3: dred yards or whatever it was three fifty against you. Yeah, 229 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: just total total embarrassment by that Bengals defense. 230 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: Tennessee at Jacksonville. Jacksonville's at six and a half. It 231 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: opened at six. We talked about it on Sunday. I 232 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: really wanted to bite because of Rabel. You walked it 233 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: back in the moment, because of Levis, you thought it 234 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: might go up to six and a half. The flip 235 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: side is the Jacks coming off a bad loss, which 236 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: is historically when you want to play a team. And 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: then there's all the stats that I just read. It's 238 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: going to be redundant today. But all the stats I 239 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: just read about home teams, home favorites, road dogs, yeah all. 240 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 2: Applies to this game. 241 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 1: I think I care less about Will Levis being the 242 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: quarterback than you do. To me, I feel like I'm 243 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: playing the spot and the coach not necessarily being afraid 244 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. 245 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm waiting on this one still. I still think 246 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: it has room to go up. I just believe everyone's 247 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: gonna come in with their teasers, their money line parlays 248 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: the public Will I'm hoping they'll keep driving this up 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: to seven. And that's what I'll come in with you, Chad. 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: So I'm with you, like, I'm not gonna make it 251 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: the biggest deal. 252 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: I just. 253 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: I said, all the time, we make these draft grades 254 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: and then you know not that it's like, oh, look, 255 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: how right I am. But it's like there's a reason 256 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: a lot of people had a second round grade on 257 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: Will Levis, Like you see the flashes of the things 258 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: he does great and then the things he does really bad, 259 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: and you know that's that's a problem. So I'm right 260 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: there with you where it's like, do I think the 261 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: kick and make one or two big plays for us? 262 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: I do, honestly, Like I've seen him make some throws 263 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: that are really impressive, and you know that combo with 264 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: him and Hopkins that's a real thing. So I can't 265 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: fall off you chat. I'm just my advice. Would we 266 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: just keep waiting, Like I think this could go up 267 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: to seven? So I'll keep waiting. Hopefully it goes up 268 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: to seven. 269 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so far, I haven't bet it. I've been holding off. 270 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: I actually feel like last week was a weird week 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: because I was traveling in Copenhagen and I left on Tuesday. 272 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: I made so many more bets earlier in the week 273 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: than I. 274 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: Normally would right before you left, right before I. 275 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Left, and then I made too many bets on Sunday 276 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: and ended up not having a great week because I 277 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: made stupid bets on Sunday because I was trying to 278 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: catch up to things. And so this week I'm being 279 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be very thoughtful. Also, I think it's 280 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: a little bit as you said or tried to say, 281 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: but I won't let you say. 282 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: Sp it's a. 283 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: Little bit easier this week. I've made like four or 284 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: five bets, but I haven't. That's not one of them yet. Also, 285 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: not one of them is the Chargers minus three at 286 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: Green Bay Lines moved down by half a point. I've 287 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: got a theory on bad quarterbacks. Okay, tell me what 288 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: you think of this. 289 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, when it's time to bet them, there are the 290 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: backup quarterbacks who are catching a spot which we have 291 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: not been uncomfortable doing that in the past years. 292 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 2: PJ. 293 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: Walker is an example of that, right, Gardner Minshew has 294 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: been an example of that. Then there are the serviceable 295 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: qbs who can keep the back door open in the 296 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: right spot, Taylor Heineke, Josh Bobbs, like they're sort of. 297 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: In that realm. 298 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: Then you get to the qbs who cannot execute and 299 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: their lack of skill overpowers the spot. Mac Jones is 300 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: one of those guys, Okay, Zach Wilson is kind of 301 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: becoming one of those guys. Is Jordan Love one of 302 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: those guys? 303 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know to deal with it though, because 304 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: I went back and watched that tape from that Pittsburgh game, 305 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: and you know, not that it's his best game he 306 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: ever played, right, and maybe that's still the Week one 307 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: against the Bears where it's like he threw for three 308 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: touchdowns and it was all wide open guys and really 309 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: simple reads. But in that Pittsburgh game, you know, he 310 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: was finally thrown to guys who weren't wide open like 311 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: he was throwing to like trusting his receivers, thrown into coverage, 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: not holding onto the ball for so long. But then 313 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: the second half he kind of reverted back to that 314 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: where he's like holding on to the ball for he's indecisive. 315 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: You can just tell he's nervous and he's not comfortable. 316 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: And you know, maybe it does come down that missed 317 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: extra point, right, because if they just needed a field goal, 318 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: he had the team in the position to kick a 319 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: field goal right to go to overtime, but they needed 320 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: a touchdown. And it's like, I think even Green Bay 321 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: fans felt that. It's like you had no real faith 322 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: that that guy was going to drive the field and 323 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: score a touchdown there. And that's what's so tough here. 324 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: It's like, if we're going off this number of stinks 325 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: and we should be taking a side, it's green Bay, right, 326 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: Like the Chargers are a better team. They have a 327 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: much better quarterback, much better offense. You know, green Bay's 328 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: defense stops nobody really, especially good offenses. So weird number. 329 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: But I'll just I'll stay away because I want to 330 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: take Green Bay. But Chad's right, we already missed the 331 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: three and a half. I'm not taking the three here, 332 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: like forget that. I'll wait and hope it gets back 333 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: to three and a half, or I just won't bet 334 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: this game because I hate it, to be honest. 335 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: Yep, dude, I think we're going to line up nicely 336 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: this week. I don't know if there's going to be 337 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: any crazy midnight calls to change everything to get us 338 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: through a place which is essentially the same as we 339 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: would be if we didn't change anything. But I like 340 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: the way we're trending right now because I don't like 341 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: that game either. All right, another one of our games. 342 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: We got not only seven divisional games, we've got five 343 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: double digit underdogs this week. The New York Giants plus 344 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: ten at Washington is one of them. Remember that soliloquy 345 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: I just gave about bad quarterbacks? Yeah, forget it, because 346 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: how was this not a prime Giant spot. There's so 347 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: much there's so much inflation. The Commanders are not the Cowboys, okay. 348 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: And then Brandon Anderson, who you know, we got to 349 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: give him his flowers because he had the Texans to 350 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: win the division in one of our preseason pods. But 351 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: he's also been nailing these hot reads that he does 352 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: in his Sunday night wrap up segment on the Action Pod. 353 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: Everyone should go download it with Joe Golan and our 354 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: very own Evan Abrams they review every game from Sunday 355 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: to a little bit of a preview for Monday, and 356 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson will do a segment in which he looks 357 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: ahead at the lines for this week, always picks a 358 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: couple of games. He went in on the Giants plus 359 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: ten at Washington. And here's a stat, okay, going back 360 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: about twenty years, underdogs with a margin of loss essentially 361 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: of fourteen or worse from week five forward sixty six 362 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: percent against the spread, seventy three percent if they're on 363 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: the road. So the Giants like, not only is it 364 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: all those divisional stats, but then they have sort of 365 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: a another stat that supports it. It's not my favorite 366 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: double digit dog of the week, it's not my second 367 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: favorite double digit dog of the week, but it is 368 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: a double digit dog of the week that is interesting 369 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: to me. 370 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Even the stats can't convince me. 371 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: I'm all Washington. I just the Giants are. They're dead. 372 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: They're dead. They got nothing, they got nothing at the 373 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: quarterback position. I already talked about this guy. He's part 374 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: of the new NFL. Right, you bring in a third 375 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: stringer out of college, you're paying ten bucks an hour. 376 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: Let him sit on the back of the bench. 377 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: With his mom, eat some chicken cutlets. 378 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: Bring us, bring us Starbucks in the morning, to the 379 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 3: quarterback room. That was this kid's life. And then their 380 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: quarterback went down. Then Tyrod Taylor went down. It's like 381 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: they're playing a true third stringer. This kid, he's horrible 382 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: passing the ball, but I mean he found it where 383 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: he figured out, oh, I can run, like I can 384 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: run the ball. He is going to survive maybe two 385 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: more weeks. This guy is going to get caught eventually. 386 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: So he's gonna run and a linebacker is going to 387 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: get a clean hit on him, and that's the end 388 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: of the Vito Like, that's just the end of the story. 389 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 3: So I want to be there with Chad, like I 390 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: think Washington just keeps covering like they I mean, yeah, 391 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: like every it feels like every week this team somehow covers, 392 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: and I just I keep believing in this offense like 393 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 3: being of me. I love him. I love this offense 394 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 3: so much. I love his schemes. Like everything he said 395 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 3: is so true that he was not getting his due 396 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 3: process just because everyone thought I was any reading Patrick 397 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 3: w homes in Kansas City and now look at them 398 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: since he's left. Look at that offense and how different 399 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: it is this year compared to the previous seasons, and 400 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: I love him. I love Washington's offensive schemes so much 401 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: like fire Ron Rivera. Make this man your a head coach. 402 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 3: He is the future. Like this guy, He's just so 403 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: offensively gifted. And I don't see the Giants. Yeah, they 404 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: have some guys on their defense that can get some stops, 405 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: but I don't know how they can keep up with 406 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: an offense here in Washington. So I do love some 407 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: double digit dogs and I'm with chatting a couple of them. 408 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: This is not one I like Washington here. 409 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: For the record, I haven't pulled the trigger in the 410 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Giants yet either, because I don't know how they're gonna. 411 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: I didn't bet this game either. I just know I 412 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: won't be on Giants. 413 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: Ye. 414 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: Sam Howell, who, by the way, you highlighted in one 415 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: of our YouTube exclusive Favorite Film Room sessions which we 416 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: will post another one tomorrow. You highly lighted Sam Howell 417 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: leading the league in passing yards right now? 418 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: Is he really? 419 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 420 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 3: That is insane. If they can get some offensive linemen, 421 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: this dude could be the guy, Like we don't know 422 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: and Stroud's number two, says Evan. That's crazy. If someone 423 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 3: had told you this back in August, holy shit. I 424 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: love football. Yeah, this year is everything I love about football. 425 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: It's just everyone's just crazy. It's just craziness. 426 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: Las Vegas at Miami. Huge move. 427 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Miami is a twelve point favorite right now. Huge mood 428 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: of the past twenty four hours. It was as low 429 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: as nine, now it's up to twelve. There was a 430 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: little bit of buyback on the Raiders yesterday and then 431 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: it popped back again today to twelve. 432 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: At that three six five. You know how, there have 433 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: been a couple of times this year where. 434 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: We've leaned towards big favorites, which is completely outside of 435 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: our comfort zone. This feels like a spot where we 436 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: should be leaning towards Miami. This is when they beat 437 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: people up twelve and five against bad teams in the 438 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: start of the season. The Raiders should not have won 439 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday night. I'm a in sort of Antonio Pears 440 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: and Aidan O'Connell like they should destroy the Raiders. We 441 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: like Miami at minus twelve. We're not afraid of this number. 442 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: Now. 443 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna saying, Hi, it's me I'm the problem. 444 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: It's me. I'm the one that bet this up. Like 445 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: when this number did below ten, I was all over Miami, like, 446 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: what what is this? This Raiders love? It's Miami at 447 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: home against the bad team. Me and Chad have already 448 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: talked about this. It's just I'm happy to fade Miami 449 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: in different spots against good teams. On the road, it's 450 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: all different. There is no doubt like this Miami team. 451 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: Maybe we won't cover this one, but I'm telling you, 452 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: over our lifespan and we keep taking TUA at home 453 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 3: against bad teams, it's gonna pay us out. And this 454 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: feels like one of those spots. So it's still below thirteen, 455 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: a key number, people, I have no problem with you 456 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: grabbing the twelve. Fuck should I make this? Simon says, 457 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: all right, go for it, call it. I just feel 458 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 3: I'm like feeling guilty just because of what happened last 459 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: week with the bank. I'm looking at Miami's injury reporting. 460 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: I'm not seeing Tyreek or Waddell. Yes, I know it's 461 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: early in the week, people, but I'm grab grab Miami 462 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: now that it's under thirteen. Simon says, Miami minus twelve 463 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 3: when Simon says, do it, we do what science says. 464 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: Wow, we are going with a big, big favorite. Honest 465 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: to god, we've never got We barely gone with favorites, 466 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: let alone two weeks in a row, let alone a favorite. 467 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: I know minus twelve it's such a key number. 468 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: This is what I mean, though, Simon, I feel like 469 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: you and I are in a mind meld because all 470 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: these games are games that we agree on. 471 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: This could only lead to disaster. Two is nine. 472 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: Those are our best weeks. 473 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: Two is nine or oh, straight up seven and two 474 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: against the spread as a favorite of over four. It's 475 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys lead from the front. They're playing at home. 476 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: They tend to cover those games. They tend to cover 477 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: those big spreads, Arizona to Houston. This game when we 478 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: talk about it on Sunday night was five and a half. 479 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: You were hoping it might get to six. It has 480 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: since gone down to four three and a half in 481 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: some places. To me, from what I'm seeing, and I 482 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: want you to sort of tell the narrative here. I've 483 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: seen the public come in big on the Cardinals, and 484 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: I want to know what you've seen that would make 485 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: this line move the way it has. 486 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: Well it's pros just like me. I think I think 487 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 3: almost all the professionals. Even last week, I felt like 488 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: only the pros were on the Cardinals on the over 489 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: and it's just because everyone felt like in the public 490 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: sphere kind of turned Kyler Murray into a joke, right, 491 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: like he became a punchline. And I don't know, maybe 492 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 3: it was because they thought it'd be rusty or just 493 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 3: whatever it was, but we saw I mean, everyone's seen 494 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: that overhead shot of Kyler scrambling for thirty yards. It's like, 495 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: it's what makes him so special. He's one of the 496 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: best athletes to ever play the game. Like the only 497 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 3: thing holding him back is his height. But in an 498 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: offense where you're gettinghim outside the pocket and you're running 499 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 3: these you know RPO plays with him, He's dynamic like 500 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: him and Connor in that backfield together looked so impressive 501 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: last week. And yeah, I know it's the Atlanta Falcons, 502 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: but we're really crowning Houston Texans here in week eleven, 503 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: Week twelve, Like it's it's too much love. So I'm 504 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: pissed the pros came in and they bet this down 505 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: so much. But yeah, grabbed the four grabbed the three 506 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: and a half, Like, if this is three and a 507 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: half or four four and a half in our contest, 508 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 3: it's a guarantee. It's a guarantee this will be in 509 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: And it's no slight against Houston. It's just at some 510 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: point CAJ has to come back down to earth. There's 511 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 3: a reason we've never seen anything like this, Like you 512 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 3: don't see rookies performed like this. And the last one 513 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 3: I can really think of is Dak, Like I remember 514 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: Dak with that Cowboys offense, was Zeke fl Like Zeke 515 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 3: and Dak were both in the conversation for MVP at 516 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 3: one point, like they were just that good that year, 517 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: the rookie season together. You know, it's crazy how good 518 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: this Houston team is. But you know Arizona's a different 519 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: team with Kyler, Like you just saw too after the game, 520 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 3: Like the belief of all the players, everybody just believes 521 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: in the sky. So maybe I'm stepping in it, right, Chad, 522 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: That's always the fear here where it's like I'm backing 523 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: an Arizona team that just had a huge emotional win. 524 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: But I could say the same exact thing about Houston. 525 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: It's like they just won a game that shouldn't have 526 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 3: won on the road. It's not just because boy dropped 527 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: that ball, right. I know a lot of people want 528 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: to throw it to like boy dropped the touchdown that 529 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: shouldn't have been what it was. CJ is that guy man. 530 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: CJ is the one making these drives, throwing the ball 531 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 3: coming down the field. So who knows if this will 532 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: end up in our round robin. Maybe it will, but 533 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 3: I am that scared to CJ. But I have to 534 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: take these points. Like go through CJ's history, he tends 535 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: to play really close games. So look, looking at this number, 536 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: it feels like this is the spot to take. And 537 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: you know, again, I feel I'm so lucky last week 538 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 3: that we dodged getting the Bengals out, and I feel 539 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: bad for everyone that listened to us and back. But 540 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 3: trust me, this week, please like you're getting a good 541 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: number here. You want to take the three and a 542 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: half the four while you still can. So. 543 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 2: CJ. 544 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Shroud has won five games this season. Historically, Ohio State 545 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks not very good in the NFL. Here's a stat 546 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: that proves it. The five wins tied for the most 547 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: single season NFL wins for any Ohio State quarterback. Ever, 548 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: sadly that includes Justin Fields, the only Ohio State quarterback 549 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: to get five wins. Oh my god, nineteen nineties icon 550 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Kent Graham, who I have a very special feeling for 551 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: because Kent Graham, who's older than I am, was an 552 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: All American quarterback from the suburbs of Chicago who was 553 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: the most highly recruited player in his class and then 554 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: went to Notre Dame and then transferred to Ohio State, 555 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: and everybody in the north shore of Chicago, in the 556 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: northern suburbs was like, oh my god, someone we actually 557 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: could see play a football field in high school is 558 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: considered the best high school football player in the country. 559 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: He's the only other guy from Ohio State who won 560 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: five games in a season in the NFL. 561 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: That's an incredible stat. You just think of the thinking about 562 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 3: all these incredible athletes have come out of there. I mean, 563 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: we'rell prior all these guys. I can't believe none of 564 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 3: them ever got the five wins. Wow. 565 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Also, here's here's another stat to back up what you 566 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: love and why there's there's a little bit of inflation 567 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: on Houston, not just because of CJ teams coming off 568 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: of five hundred plus yards of offense playing at home 569 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: in their next game, seventy one ninety two against the 570 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: spread the. 571 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: Last twenty years like that. Only two teams. 572 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: Fit that bill this week, and we just talked about 573 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: one of them, and we just talked about fading one 574 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: of them, the Houston Texans. The other team the game 575 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about next, Chicago Bears at the 576 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. The Bears are ten point underdogs. I love 577 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: this game. Yep, love this game. Love this game. I'm 578 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: debating between this game and one other game is my 579 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: exec decision. I raised this one on Sunday night when 580 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: it was nine. 581 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: I like the Bears another game. 582 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: I told you to wait. 583 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: I was just going to say that. I was going 584 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: to I like the Bears. You're like, hold your horses, 585 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: don't be crazy. You thought, well, just wait. 586 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: The public loves the Lions, right. 587 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're you were totally right. 588 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 589 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: It got to ten and a half on Monday. There's 590 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of buy back. It settled to ten. 591 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: It's still a ten. I bet this game We're going 592 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: to be one of our biggest luck matchups of the week. 593 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: Oh really, another signal to bet the Bears. All those 594 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: division stats right, all the division stats that I've mentioned 595 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: it Bears repeating in this game the where are we 596 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: home teams in the division since twenty fifteen? So the 597 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: Lions in the spot covering in forty seven percent, home 598 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: favorites in the divisions in twenty fifteen covering it forty 599 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: five percent. This is the spot, you bet the Bears 600 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: just saying it gotta do it. 601 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you. Love love the Bears 602 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: of this number. Another crazy stat from our guy, Evan 603 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: Golf has covered eleven straight games against NFC North teams. 604 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: Pretty pretty insane run by this Lions team right now. 605 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: In this division, we got. 606 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: Inflation on the Lions. 607 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: We got Justin Fields potentially coming back. I did, I 608 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: may or may not, Simon, Maybe I did, maybe I didn't, 609 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: and no one can judge me if I did. 610 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: I may or may not. 611 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: Watched practice video from the Bears yesterday, may or may 612 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: not have seen Justin Fields taking snaps, dropping back and 613 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: then getting hit on his thumb with those little foam 614 00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: tackle things. 615 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 2: So clearly he's ready. I'm kidding. 616 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Don't take that as betting advice that he's gonna be playing, 617 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: but we like the Bears either way. 618 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and if it does, if it is not him, 619 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: I'm okay by not my position, Like I'm not gonna 620 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 3: have a ton of money on this one. Chat already said, 621 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 3: I already missed the ten and a half, like the 622 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: pros that got that. I gotta be feeling great. I'll 623 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 3: grab the ten where I can. But now my hope 624 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: is just that it does go back up at ten 625 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: and a half. But yeah, if it's no fields, probably 626 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: go up another three points, right, probably gets up to twelve, 627 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: maybe thirteen. 628 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: So I would still take the Bears. 629 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: You would. 630 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: It's the spot, This is yeah, this is what we're like. 631 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: Look these division games, they're so unpredictable. There's so much familiarity, 632 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: there's so much more intention in the way the teams play. 633 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: Winning a game in the division, which for the Bears 634 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: won't matter, but for the Lions will. It's like winning 635 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: a game and a half, and so there's a lot 636 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: more time, a lot more opportunity to make mistakes. Everything 637 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: is amplified a little bit, like this is the spot 638 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: you take the underdog. 639 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah it's fair, it's fair, But yeah, I would just 640 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: that's just my voice to people, it's like grab the ten. 641 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, the hope for us everyone is that this 642 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: gets back to ten and a half. 643 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: You know what, No, I can't do it yet. There 644 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: you go, I can't do it yet because I really 645 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: want to know about justin fields. Exec decision time. Pittsburgh 646 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Steelers plus four at the Cleveland Browns. 647 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: The choice between the unthinkable and the impossible? Are you 648 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 3: have your owners text to executive decision. 649 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: We bet the Steelers when it was four and a half. 650 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: We bet the Steelers last week against Green Bay. Did 651 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: we get lucky? 652 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: Maybe? Is this the way this team plays? 653 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: Probably? But from a football point of view, one of 654 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: the reasons I liked Cleveland against Baltimore last week, and 655 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: why when there were all those injuries and stuff going on, 656 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: I never backed out of my position. I Cleveland plus five, 657 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: Cleveland plus six didn't change anything. Didn't bet on Baltimore 658 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: isn't because of their offense. It's because of their playmakers 659 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: on defense. They just have more of them on the 660 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: d line who can rush the passer, and that mattered 661 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: against Baltimore in the second half, especially Miles Garrett was dominant, 662 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: and that advantage that the Browns have is neutralized this 663 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: week because the Steelers have three pass rushers grading out 664 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: as top twenty in the NFL according to Pro Football Focus. 665 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: That is the most in the NFL. It's more than 666 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: the Browns. To me, we've seen it every single week. 667 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: As bad as Kenny Pickett is, you see someone on 668 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: the Steelers defensive line or in as one of their 669 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: linebackers making a big play as a pass rusher that 670 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: keeps them in the game. So we have all that, 671 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: plus we have the division stats, massive, massive game for 672 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: both teams. 673 00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: Exect decision. 674 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: I gotta bet my Tom and catch it full o 675 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: A loss it home. YA couldn't ask for now, A 676 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 3: big strong drink. I'm gonna for a way We're gonna 677 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 3: sort because I gotta bet Mike tomline catches for. 678 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 2: Did I overwhelm you? 679 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: I don't know to say it. I love you, Chatty 680 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: the best. I have to take Pittsburgh. I have no choice. 681 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: This is like everything we preach, we talk about all 682 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: the time. We'll be on Pittsburgh and they'll be There'll 683 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: be in our money line around Robin like this is 684 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: just this is how this stupid division works, and this 685 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: is what we do with this division, maybe we'll get 686 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: burned here, Right, if if Watson did find something that 687 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: second half and he is what he was his old self, 688 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 3: which is exactly what he looked like in that game. 689 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he was making off balanced, one footed throws 690 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 3: across his body right on to the money across the field, 691 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 3: like he was really in his bag in that second half. 692 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: And if he found something there, this bets toast me 693 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: and me and Chat are dead on arrival, like if 694 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 3: they're still shootout. Pittsburgh is not built being a shootout, right. 695 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 3: They are the worst offensively challenged teams we've ever seen. 696 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: And I mean everyone's going to see the stat It's 697 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: like they've been outgained every week. You have you heard 698 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: this stat Chat every every week they've been outgained, Like 699 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: do these people don't understand that yards really are irrelevant. 700 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: Yards don't matter in football. You can get all the 701 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 3: yards in the world. If you can't score, it's all fugazy, 702 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: Like if you're kicking threes instead of again sevens, you lose. 703 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 3: And as much shit as you want to give the 704 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in these games, they get the sevens when they 705 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 3: need it, and that's why they've been winning these really 706 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 3: close games. I mean the Ravens is a great example, 707 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 3: Like they just stayed in the game, right, They stayed 708 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 3: in it. They held the Ravens to a field goal. 709 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: I think it was ten to three at one point, 710 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 3: they get their own touchdown, they get their own two pointers, 711 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 3: then they get another takeaway, and then they get their 712 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: own touchdown again and it's like bam, you're up seventeen 713 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 3: to ten. That game's over. Right, So this Pittsburgh team, 714 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 3: they just win ugly and we can again we said it, 715 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: we could get burned here. But how do you if 716 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: you love this show and you love what we do, 717 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 3: you have to take this game with us. This is 718 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: just what this show is all about. We take an 719 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 3: ugly number here on a divisional dog and not shocking 720 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 3: anyone I'm looking at right now in the app the 721 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: money of the bets coming on the Browns. But what 722 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 3: the numbers come down. That's sharp movement, that's that's real 723 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: professional money. So wouldn't be shocked to see this get 724 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: down to three and a half. But uh yeah, you 725 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: got to be happy to grab the four like Chad's 726 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 3: making this exact decision. Grab the four. 727 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,479 Speaker 1: Now reverse line move that's what that one is called. 728 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Here's another stat. Here's another stat from evan Division dogs 729 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: the last twenty years on the road. Ninety games over 730 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: five hundred Division Dogs on the road since twenty nineteen, 731 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: fifty against the spread. 732 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 3: So love it. 733 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: Everything's lining up for us there, It's all going our way. 734 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: Simon Dallas at Carolina, Yes, please give me Carolina. Of 735 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: all the double dog, double digit dogs this week, this 736 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: one feels like most traditionally, like the one we would 737 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: play double digit dog at home, a team that is 738 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: massively inflated. The look aheadline was six and a half, 739 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: only one win this year. 740 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: On the road. I think, did you did you give 741 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: me that stat? 742 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 743 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: We go through it. 744 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like it's it's a huge pros Joe's game. 745 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: The bets are on the Cowboys, money on Carolina, and I'm. 746 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: Looking at the one of the most public books out there, 747 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 3: the bets ninety the money right now in Dallas. Again, 748 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 3: I said, this is an easy week. Half the time, 749 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 3: I don't even need to do the work. I wish 750 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: I didn't spend three hours breaking down the freaking Panthers 751 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: film the tray to convince myself. I just could have 752 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 3: done nothing, And I should have known I was gonna 753 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 3: be on the pant but I needed to really see 754 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: it to believe it. Dallas this year week when they 755 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: were on the road against the Giants, we all remember 756 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 3: they beat them forty zhing. Everything went wrong for the 757 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: Giants in that game. The next road game they played 758 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: was at Arizona. They lost sixteen to twenty eight. Their 759 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 3: next road game after that was at the forty nine Ers, 760 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: they lost forty two to ten. After that, they're on 761 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: the road against the Chargers they won twenty to seventeen, 762 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 3: and then after that they're on the road against Philadelphia 763 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 3: they lost twenty eight to twenty three. So we've seen 764 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: Cowboys this year dominant, incredible defense. Everything clicks at home. 765 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 3: On the road, you can clearly say it's different and 766 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 3: they face some challenges. Now go look at the Panthers 767 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 3: how they play at home compared to on the road. 768 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 3: Much better team at home, Like they're clearly comfortable there, 769 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 3: their defense plays better. It should be shocked to knowing 770 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: right the public is going to hammer this number. I 771 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 3: can't believe I'm gonna say this. I'll throw a little 772 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: on the Panthers' money line, like this might end up 773 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: in our round robin. Of all the big dogs here, 774 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: this is the one I could see somehow pulling. 775 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 2: Off the upset with you on the money line. 776 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: The cow was are the number three, number four team 777 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: in off NFC. But teams lay stinkers. We seen it 778 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: all the time. This is a bad spot. It's it's 779 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,879 Speaker 3: smushing between two divisional games and it's on the road. Yeah, 780 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: Chad said, you got to hold your nose and throw 781 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: a little bet on that money line. 782 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: Just a dash, just a sprinkle, Simon. 783 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: I had such a headache before this podcast began, rare, 784 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: not one thousand percent enthusiasm bay for me, and you've 785 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: turned it around. You've made me happier. Just talking about 786 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: this has made my headache go away. 787 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: That's why I'm here. 788 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: Chad Seattle at the Los Angeles Rams, another divisional game 789 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: we talked about on a Sunday night. We were wondering 790 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: who would play quarterback for the Rams. We now know 791 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be Matthew Stafford. As soon as that 792 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: news hit, the line moved from two and a half 793 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: down to one. I don't have a huge read on 794 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: this game. I feel like the Rams are in good spots, 795 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: but Seattle, because Seattle's been underperforming. 796 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 2: I can't. I can't. 797 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: I can't find the reporting. If you like to approach 798 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: this from one way and I approach from another way, 799 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: I can't find the reporting to make me feel strongly 800 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: one way or the other. 801 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 3: Now I'm right there with you, Like I want to 802 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 3: take I told people want to show like if it 803 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: was going to be Seattle, I thought you were getting 804 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 3: a good number if it wasn't going to be Stafford, 805 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 3: because if we didn't know who the hell of Rams 806 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: quarter wreck was going to be, and it totally went 807 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 3: the other way. And they are saying that it is 808 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 3: going to be Stafford and that's why this numbers move 809 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: so much, and I don't know what to deal with it. 810 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: Like I want to take the Rams too, but I 811 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 3: hate the number, Like it feels like the values kind 812 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: of shifted towards the Seahawks. But I don't really want 813 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 3: to be taking the Seahawks. So yeah, no play on 814 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 3: this one for me right now, dude. 815 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: We're not connected by a string right now. We're connected 816 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: by like reinforced steel bars the New York Jets at 817 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. This line is seven. Why does this 818 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: keep happening to us. 819 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: You don't have to do it. We're not doing it. 820 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 3: I'm not doing it to the fans. They can't I 821 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,800 Speaker 3: can't take it. I'm not doing it to them. Dude. 822 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: I know you didn't look in the script because it 823 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: says we have to bag Zach Wilson in this spot, 824 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: and we can't do it. It's a perfect we can't 825 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: do it. It's a pros Joe's game. All the bets 826 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: are on the Bills, all the money is on the Jets, 827 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: but Zach Wilson is officially in that category of doesn't matter. 828 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: The spot cannot execute for me. 829 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: I'll be on the Jets, but I'm not the zero 830 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 3: chances will be one of our five. I am so 831 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 3: bitter about everything in that game went with the Jets, 832 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 3: and I want to blend the coach. I feel like 833 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: he's a fucking idiot. 834 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 2: Man. 835 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 3: It's like you have a game that's all being dictated 836 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 3: by punting. That entire game was dictated by the punters. 837 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 3: Like that. The Raiders punter did his job. He kept 838 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 3: pinning them back, kept letting them get the ball back. 839 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 3: They'd run three plays with their running back and then 840 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 3: kick a field goal. And that's how they and the 841 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 3: Jets thing pissed me off so much as this. How 842 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: do you not have someone on the sideline telling you 843 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 3: the math where It's like, as soon as they got 844 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 3: into field goal range on that possession, they should have 845 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: kicked the field goal. Then they kick the ball back, 846 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: use their three timeouts, get the ball back at say midfield, 847 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: like they would have or at their own forty have 848 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 3: Zach Wilson once again get you in a field goal, 849 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 3: ran and kick another field on and you would have 850 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: won that game. And you know, they were like, you 851 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna trust Zach Wilson to get us 852 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: a touchdown here. And that was their first mistake, was 853 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: believing a guy who hasn't scored a touchdown for them 854 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 3: in thirty quarters was gonna come in at the end 855 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: of the game and drive the field and get another touchdown. 856 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: So I'm with the fans. I am so bitter and 857 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 3: angry at this Jets team right now. I cannot make 858 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 3: it one of my five. But unfortunately Chad just said 859 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: it like I have to take the seven, I have 860 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 3: to bet the spot. I can't can't stand this fucking 861 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 3: team because they have so much talent on the defense, 862 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 3: such talent at the offensive weapons, and they just have 863 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 3: an absolutely dud at quarterback. Like again, they didn't go 864 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 3: get Dobbs. Dobbs went first seventh round pick. I mean, 865 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: just fire everyone, Like the owner has to be beside 866 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 3: himself watching this Vikings team, that offense. It's like this 867 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: guy was available for a seventh round pick, Like, what 868 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 3: the what are we doing? 869 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 4: What? 870 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 3: Because Zach Wilson drove the field against the Giants and 871 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: was able to get the luckiest ever overtime game I've 872 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. Like it's just crazy that 873 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 3: the Jets cupt convinced themselves to believe in Zach Wilson 874 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: and just a total waste of the season for this 875 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 3: Jets team and that you know, what can you do? 876 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 3: They got Rogers, he got injured, and you were stuck 877 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: again with your your just completely out of the league. 878 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 3: Second pick overall on Zach Wilson. 879 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: This will be a really interesting game for the Bills, 880 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: And I feel terrible for Matt Mitchell that he's living 881 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 1: through this agony. But this is the kind of spot 882 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: where in the past Josh Allen not just wins but 883 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: covers pretty easily, right, And so to me, this is 884 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: an indication of how how much do the Bills have 885 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,919 Speaker 1: left in the tank for the year. 886 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: Can they recover? Can they turn things around? 887 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: The AFC East is topsy turvy, like they are not 888 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: out of it by any means. 889 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 3: Right. 890 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: The Dolphins cannot be good teams. The Jets and the 891 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 1: Patriots are the Jets and the Patriots, So they don't 892 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: have to be the best team in the af CE 893 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: in the AFC with the record. 894 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: They just got to win the division and get into 895 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 896 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: So and they can do that, but it starts with 897 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: this game, and it starts with showing how healthy they 898 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: are mentally. I love Game Time, Simon. 899 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: I know you know that. 900 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 1: It is the fastest growing ticketing app in the United States. 901 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: I love it for two reasons. 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You can redeem code 911 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: favorites for twenty dollars off your first purchase. Terms apply again. 912 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: Just download the app and her code favorites for twenty 913 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: dollars off. Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. 914 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 3: All right. 915 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota's visiting Denver last night. I was looking at lines 916 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: before the game began. Denver was a one and a 917 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: half point favorite, and I thought to myself, I think 918 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: Denver can win the game tonight. I think this line 919 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: might go up to three. If they do, I should 920 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,919 Speaker 1: bet it now. And then sometime between like thinking that 921 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: and turning on the game, I completely forgot until half halftime, 922 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh shit, I didn't bet the gate, 923 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: so it only went up to two. 924 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm surprised by that. 925 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: Means the Vikings are the hottest team of football. Everyone 926 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,359 Speaker 3: loves them, The public loves them. I know a lot 927 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 3: of professionals love them. You know they be getting fat 928 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 3: and rich off this team. It's it's crazy, but I 929 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 3: gotta do it. How do we not take Denver at 930 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 3: home in this spot. 931 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 2: That's what I think. 932 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like this was gonna be my assignment, says 933 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 3: about Chad just said it where It's like I thought 934 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 3: this numb would be higher, and I don't know if 935 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 3: it is going to get higher because I don't know, 936 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 3: Like I need to talk to see what the boys 937 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 3: are doing. But a couple of pros I talk to 938 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 3: right now, they like the Vikings and they like this number, 939 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 3: and they're like thinking themselves. His running style is going 940 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 3: to give a lot of problems, especially to teams like 941 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 3: Denver that aren't the best tackling teams right. I mean, 942 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 3: how many tackles they blow last night? That's just that's 943 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 3: just what Denver is. Uh. But man, like I'm looking 944 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 3: at three different books right now, and all the bets, 945 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 3: all all the tickets, all the money are on the Vikings. 946 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 3: A road dog, not not a good not a good spot. 947 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 3: Like if you're if you're, if you're a backer, and 948 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 3: you know these numbers road dogs that are highly publicly 949 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 3: bet let alone over eighty percent. That's that's dead on arrival. 950 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 3: That is a dead dog. So don't know what to 951 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 3: do this one. Like I'm betting Denver, I bet it 952 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 3: im I'm with you. Like I felt, I felt really good, 953 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,320 Speaker 3: uh after last night. I feel like I should be 954 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 3: feeling even better. But I'm just a little nervous about it, 955 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 3: a little nervous about just because I'm like the books, 956 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 3: I don't know how to great dobs. I don't know 957 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 3: what he what his value is right now to the spread, 958 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 3: and I don't know what the fuck I'm watching. Like 959 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 3: even when I go back and watch the film, it's like, 960 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 3: you would never know. This dude is a journeyman that's 961 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 3: been on four teams in the last whatever it is, 962 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 3: eleven months or ten months. Like he looks he looks 963 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 3: like the guy, and it is crazy, but here we 964 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 3: go another staff from my guy Evan. He's still a 965 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 3: guy that's two and nine straight up as a starter, 966 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 3: And like I got to keep reminding myself that where 967 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 3: it's like he's just high right now and it's all clicking, 968 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 3: and he had two back to back wins, and it's like, 969 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 3: did he win that game against Atlanta or did Atlanta 970 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 3: really lose that game? Did he really dominate the Saints 971 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: or did the Saints just totally late? Eck? I mean 972 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,479 Speaker 3: that was the first game the Saints defense. I believe 973 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 3: a game up over two hundred and fifty yards passing 974 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 3: to a starter in like over two seasons or something 975 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 3: crazy like that, like total letdown games. So I'm scared. 976 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 3: You can hear you can hear me trying to talk 977 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 3: myself into this. I'm clearly scared of this guy, Dobbs, 978 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 3: but I gotta believe in this number, and I eventually 979 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,479 Speaker 3: he's gonna come back down to earth. So I'm gonna 980 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 3: go with Denver here in this home spot chat. 981 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: What do you have it rated at right now? 982 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 3: Three? I'm right there with you, like I making three, 983 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 3: but I have no idea what to make the number 984 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 3: because I don't know what to do with Dobs Like I 985 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 3: could totally be underrated this guy, and there's probably should 986 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 3: be a pick. But what I have him grated at 987 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 3: right now, it's like I'm not over adjusting, I'm just 988 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 3: keeping him grated exactly what I have, which is like, 989 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 3: he's a bottom twenty, bottom twenty five quarterback in this league. 990 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 3: And it's like, would I take him over the Zach 991 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 3: Wilson's of the world, of course, no brainer. Would I 992 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 3: take him over Baker? No? Which is crazy to say. 993 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 3: I know people are like disagreeing with that, but that's 994 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 3: just how I have it rated right now. So I 995 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 3: don't know what to do with him. He's a total 996 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 3: in mystery man right now. But don't be shocked if 997 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 3: you see this as one of our fives come Sunday. 998 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,760 Speaker 1: By the way, I apologize, you said Baker. And before 999 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: we get to the final game, I realized I skipped 1000 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: over you did the Niners in Bucks game because I 1001 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: just in my screen I have one note on it. 1002 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 1: The Niners are favored by eleven and a half. My 1003 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: read was I have no read on this one yet, 1004 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: I have nothing to say. 1005 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to I want to take Bucks, but 1006 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 3: I think Chad's right, Like, it's hard for me to 1007 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 3: want to back this Buccaneers team after a home rent 1008 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 3: home win, going on the road against a team that 1009 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,879 Speaker 3: they're fully healthy now, like they got all their dogs back. 1010 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 3: Clearly Prety got over the concussions, right, he looked like 1011 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 3: his old self. I don't Yeah, he had three touchdowns. 1012 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 3: He just looked much like the pretty we were used 1013 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 3: to seeing in the beginning of the season, which is like, 1014 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 3: this guy is perfect for the Shanahan system. He's a 1015 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 3: good thrower. He's very accurate, and he knows he's got Debo. 1016 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 3: If he's got McCaffrey, he's got Kittle. Like these big 1017 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 3: time weapons, don't overthink it. Just get get the ball 1018 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 3: to which one of them is open on that play, 1019 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 3: and they'll make the magic happen. So I want to 1020 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 3: take Tampa, but I'm with Chad. I just can't get there. 1021 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: So I'll probably of not playing this or maybe just 1022 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 3: teasing the forty nine ers. 1023 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 1: The going back to the Broncos for a second. Remember 1024 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: one of our favorite bets from the beginning of the 1025 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: season was the Broncos. I think over. 1026 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 2: Eight and a half wins. 1027 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I said this on Green Dot 1028 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: Daily two weeks ago. I'm not ripping that ticket up. 1029 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: They've got a very winnable schedule. Yeah, to go five 1030 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 1: and three the rest of the year. Beating the Bills 1031 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: was like one of the two games they have to win. 1032 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 3: But the rest of the and the Chiefs like that. 1033 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 3: That completely flips. Yes, their whole rating. 1034 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: The beating the Bills and the Chiefs, the rest of 1035 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: the teams they're playing the way they're playing right now, 1036 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: they're better than the teams they're playing through the rest 1037 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: of the year. So I don't hate having the Broncos 1038 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: at over eight and a half right now. 1039 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 3: No, I mean, I honestly felt like the I guess 1040 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 3: aiding the word, I was like, he's just thinking back 1041 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 3: to our summer shows. It's like, what the fuck was 1042 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 3: I think? And so thank god they're not making us 1043 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 3: look like total idiots. 1044 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know what an incredible coaching job by 1045 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, by Bench Joseph, what they've done with Russell Wilson, 1046 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: what they've done with that defense. 1047 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 2: It's impressive, all right. 1048 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: Last game on the board, Monday Night Football, biggest game 1049 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: of the week, Philadelphia Kansas City. Kansas City is a 1050 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: three point favorite right now. We liked it on Sunday 1051 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 1: at two and a half. We batted at two and 1052 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: a half. I'm kind of surprised it went to three. 1053 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: I thought like the money was coming in on Philly. 1054 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that this number moved. 1055 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 3: And this might just not being one of our five 1056 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 3: just because it's so split between all the professionals I 1057 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,120 Speaker 3: talked to, and before the show, I asked Evan, it 1058 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 3: give us all the red trends just because everyone knows 1059 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,439 Speaker 3: all these trends about any Reid after a bye week. 1060 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 3: So let's read it off. Jed any Reid last twenty 1061 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,440 Speaker 3: years on eight days rest, twenty six straight up, forty 1062 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,479 Speaker 3: seven thirty six and one ATS on twelve plus days 1063 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 3: of rest, which is a bye Andy Reid is twenty 1064 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 3: five and six straight up in the last twenty years. 1065 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 3: And the Mahome stat which means Chad love Mahomes minus 1066 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 3: three or less or a dog twenty six and one ATS, 1067 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,439 Speaker 3: so kills me. Kills me. So it's like, I want 1068 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 3: to be on the Eagles. I feel like the Eagles 1069 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 3: are a better team. The Chiefs have looked lost offensively, 1070 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 3: and you know they might put together one or two 1071 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 3: good quarters and then it doesn't look good the next ones. 1072 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 3: You know, Travis Kelce is getting all this shit from 1073 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 3: people because he went to go see his girlfriend, the 1074 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 3: most famous musician in the world in Argentina on his 1075 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 3: bye week. You're a loser if you care what Travis 1076 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 3: Kelsey is doing on his bye week. A guy who's 1077 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 3: got two super Bowl champions it's the top three all 1078 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 3: time tight end is going to make out with his 1079 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 3: smoking hot girlfriend who's singing to thousands of people. You 1080 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 3: were a fucking thousands. Yeah, your way to loseer. I 1081 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 3: want to be on the Eagles, but I can't. I 1082 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 3: can't do it to you guys. I'm not going to 1083 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 3: force it onto us. I don't know how this ends 1084 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 3: up as one of our fives just because of Evan's trends. 1085 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 3: Like Evan gives us these numbers and they break my 1086 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 3: heart and they pissed me off, but they're right, like 1087 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 3: those Saints numbers he gave us. How the fuck was 1088 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 3: I on the Saints as a road favorite last week? 1089 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 3: I'm kicking myself about it. So Evan gave me these stats. 1090 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 3: A on Amy Reid, the twenty five and six straight 1091 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 3: up is insane. But if this gets a three and 1092 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 3: a half, things changed, Mahomes at three and a half 1093 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,839 Speaker 3: are higher. Yeah, thirty five and forty ets. So don't 1094 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 3: don't kill us if we change on Sunday that this 1095 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 3: gets up to three and a half in the contest. 1096 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, at two and a half, 1097 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 3: I cannot fault you at all. If you want to 1098 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 3: put the Chiefs in at two and a half in 1099 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 3: your contest. 1100 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: Mahomes is thirty and one straight thirty and one straight 1101 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: up in November December, in the last thirty one games. Wow, 1102 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: thirty six and five straight up November December. In his 1103 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: career forty eight and eight straight up November December. 1104 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 1105 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: The guy does not freaking lose once we get into 1106 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, which is why he's 1107 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: got so many freaking Super Bowls MVPs records, and why 1108 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: it's going to go down as the greatest quarterback who's 1109 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 1: ever played. And yet here we are putting our money 1110 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: on the Eagles. 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